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Offline NoPunIn10Did

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:26:48 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

But given that Home/End are provided, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete instead?
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:36:20 by NoPunIn10Did »

Offline Kerasan

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:27:49 »
Oh man freaking awesome do we have confirmation it's going to be slick glossy PBT KAM (a la KAM Starry Night) and not matte PBT KAM (a la KAM Wraith)?

I plan to order samples for both finishes.
I initially thought about going for glossy finish tho since it'd look more classy and modern (IMO) :thumb:

Yes please biip, i love it

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:31:45 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?


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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:36:54 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?

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I totally missed the difference between raise/lower and home/end.  Thanks!

Though shouldn't home/end really be left and right?

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:39:32 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?

Show Image

I totally missed the difference between raise/lower and home/end.  Thanks!

Though shouldn't home/end really be left and right?

Then they'd look like 1u Tab and 1u Backspace :))

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:40:16 »
Brief request. Maybe there's a few more of me out there who use a pile of macros that have been codified by number.

One kit, 10 keys, just 0-9. I'd buy a dozen myself.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:50:36 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?

Show Image

I totally missed the difference between raise/lower and home/end.  Thanks!

Though shouldn't home/end really be left and right?

Then they'd look like 1u Tab and 1u Backspace :))

What about turning the PgUp/PgDn keys ninety degrees?

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:54:43 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?

Show Image

I totally missed the difference between raise/lower and home/end.  Thanks!

Though shouldn't home/end really be left and right?

Then they'd look like 1u Tab and 1u Backspace :))

What about turning the PgUp/PgDn keys ninety degrees?

I don't think that'd be intuitive to be honest.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:59:57 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?

Show Image

I totally missed the difference between raise/lower and home/end.  Thanks!

Though shouldn't home/end really be left and right?

Then they'd look like 1u Tab and 1u Backspace :))

What about turning the PgUp/PgDn keys ninety degrees?

I don't think that'd be intuitive to be honest.

Really? I guess I don't consider Home/End an up/down thing since the actual operation that occurs with that keystroke is to push the cursor to the leftmost (start) or rightmost (end) character within the line.

Offline baysic

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:07:46 »
biip, can we have more 1.25u, 2.25u and 2.75u in the set? I want to get away with all icons caps; no alpha no mods just icons.

Offline Visionaire

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:10:47 »
Very smart and eye catching set. If I could, I'd say I'd be more interested in the 'matte' version of the caps than glossy.

Offline SirTimmyTimbit

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:14:38 »
Looks fantastic!

+1 for matte

Would you be interested in adding an accent kit with a few reverse colored mods? Or some novelty designs for enter / shift?

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:16:09 »
I love the colourway.  This set is amazing.

I would love to see a set of mods with coloured legends instead of the current white-only option.  +1 for matte, and +1 for a few more 1.25u options as well

My gut is saying I want a terminal set as well, however I can't think of many good legends beyond terminal prompts.  I use a very similar colour scheme in my terminal to this set's colours, so perhaps I'm just struck by the familiarity.
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:23:56 by Daneel_ »

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:34:53 »
both matte and glossy finishes would be great. But if I had to pick one it'd be matte
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:37:13 by tobold »

Offline pandaman97

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:40:02 »
Look how different between the alpha, mods, numpad and those novelties are. One like  :-X and the novelty like  :cool:

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:44:03 »
One point of feedback I have;

The only 40% layouts that uses a 1.75u require two of them, not one (JD45/50, prime_L). Because of this, I recommend adding a second 1.75u spacebar to the 40s kit or removing the one. I realize there is another 1.75u spacebar offered in the spacebars kit, but that's an entire kit that would need to be purchased for the one spacebar. On a 40% no less.

Big fan of the custom font and dots! I hope to see an all dots kit offered!

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:56:24 »
Ergo kit has duplicate 1u PgUp/PgDn keys.  Maybe swap one set for Home/End instead?

Just realizing you're using stroked up/down to represent Home/End. Which is a little odd, since Home/End is more of a left/right thing.

So given that, maybe swap out the redundant 1u PgUp/PgDn with Insert and Delete?

Show Image

I totally missed the difference between raise/lower and home/end.  Thanks!

Though shouldn't home/end really be left and right?

Then they'd look like 1u Tab and 1u Backspace :))

What about turning the PgUp/PgDn keys ninety degrees?

I don't think that'd be intuitive to be honest.

Really? I guess I don't consider Home/End an up/down thing since the actual operation that occurs with that keystroke is to push the cursor to the leftmost (start) or rightmost (end) character within the line.

Consider doing Home, End, PgUp, PgDn like this (ignore the Insert, Delete icons on the left):



This style for Home encompasses both operations that the key performs: moving the cursor to the start of the line (left) in editable text, as well as jumping to the beginning of the document (up) when the text isn't editable or when Ctrl+Home is pressed. Similarly for End.

These icons also resemble the standard Home, End symbols as defined by ISO 9995-7, which are: ⇱ ⇲.
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:04:21 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:00:11 »
+1 to matte, +1 to possibly colored legends. Love this kit, and would be interested in buying multiple sets of child kits. I think it could be cool to have some icons for music production/synth in the creators kit, would love ones for envelope, oscillator, lfo, etc.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:02:20 »
One point of feedback I have;

The only 40% layouts that uses a 1.75u require two of them, not one (JD45/50, prime_L). Because of this, I recommend adding a second 1.75u spacebar to the 40s kit or removing the one. I realize there is another 1.75u spacebar offered in the spacebars kit, but that's an entire kit that would need to be purchased for the one spacebar. On a 40% no less.

Big fan of the custom font and dots! I hope to see an all dots kit offered!

I would actually recommend keeping a single 1.75u space and adding a 1.75u Lock key instead. This key needs to be added for Minivan, Dimple and Minila support anyway, and since this set uses the same color for alphas and mods, the 1.75u Lock key can be used as a second spacebar on the keyboards you listed.

I'm going to go through the kits and review them in more detail a bit later, but for now this is the feedback I have for the Nomad kit.

Offline DrHigsby

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:19:49 »
One point of feedback I have;

The only 40% layouts that uses a 1.75u require two of them, not one (JD45/50, prime_L). Because of this, I recommend adding a second 1.75u spacebar to the 40s kit or removing the one. I realize there is another 1.75u spacebar offered in the spacebars kit, but that's an entire kit that would need to be purchased for the one spacebar. On a 40% no less.

Big fan of the custom font and dots! I hope to see an all dots kit offered!

I would actually recommend keeping a single 1.75u space and adding a 1.75u Lock key instead. This key needs to be added for Minivan, Dimple and Minila support anyway, and since this set uses the same color for alphas and mods, the 1.75u Lock key can be used as a second spacebar on the keyboards you listed.

I'm going to go through the kits and review them in more detail a bit later, but for now this is the feedback I have for the Nomad kit.

That's an even better idea and I agree!

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:27:13 »
This is the gateway keycap set into ortho layouts. 100x yes

Offline ceconds

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:36:33 »
Biip has done it again! Good work here with so many options!

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:10:38 »
i know this is not an IDE set, but could you consider Vim nav in alphas?

Offline prognostics

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:11:50 »
Every set you design is absolute fire

Offline Uberchango

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:20:54 »
Love the colors and the concept. And it makes all the sense in the world to use a uniform profile. This might be my first KAM keyset!

Offline HungerMechanic

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:55:17 »
I would prefer matte.

How many kits needed to make the first Campine pictured? Looks like I would need audio + equalizers.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:08:25 »
Oh this looks super fun. Count me in for matte as well.

Good thing is that this set is KAM so every set is going to get made.
Bad thing is that this is KAM so I'm going to have to buy all the sets.

Offline smithbob

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:21:19 »
glossy please. this way when the pbt does get shinny it is shinny all over and doesn't look like ****.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:29:01 »
glossy please. this way when the pbt does get shinny it is shinny all over and doesn't look like ****.

I'm surprised you've managed to shine up a PBT set.
That's one of the whole reasons I like PBT to begin with, it doesn't shine as easily as ABS. 5 years so far on an OEM profile PBT set as my daily and it's still as clean as ever. Matte ABS though? No thanks. I bought the Susuwatari from Drop and I've already got my spacebar glistening.

Offline VXQN

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:52:40 »
I had no desire to own a macro-pad until I saw this set. I'd like to cast my vote for matte over gloss!

Offline ZongZiWang

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 15:05:29 »
+1 for more 1.25u mods w/ icons, and maybe a bit 1.5u mods?

Offline harlekein

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 15:40:54 »
With all the +1 matte posts, I just want to back up glossy instead. I enjoy a good even shine.

Offline jimboytacos

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 16:02:02 »
Ridiculous. You can't be doing this.
I literally bought all of Wraith kits, cuz damn, good work.

But seriously, I need this too. :(

Rip wallet.


And can you add another 1.5U key for ergodox. Control key.

Offline bomberstudios

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 17:39:01 »
Jesus. ****ing. Christ.

I want ALL OF THEM, take my money right now.

Now, if you could make a Dots-only kit for us Planck users, so we don’t have to get 8 Addons kits to fill our boards with dots...

Otherwise this is going to be a pretty expensive GB for me 😅

Offline curious-otter

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 18:10:11 »
Good lord! Just take my wallet right now!! I'm still new to custom keebs so not sure if shiny or matte would be better so will wait until the samples are in. Great work on the set, it looks amazeballs and you've completely killed my budget lol

Offline Horgix

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 18:24:27 »
I'm definitely in. Probably for all the "novelties" icons - all of them! Really smart.

A couple notes/suggestions:

- A couple of macropad recently started including ISO Enter in their small "layout". Would be cool if a couple of novelties icon kits got an ISO Enter key for them :) Even if they're kinda generic.
- More 2.25/2.75u keys in sets please? :D
- +1 for matte ;)

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 18:35:57 »
For the audio kit, would you consider adding some things including a few that are more geared toward notation for more coverage? I'm a former musician-now programmer (+1 coding kit btw) and could potentially get my own spouse into the custom keyboard world by making him a Sibelius-oriented setup :)

The things I had in mind for the moment are: an instrument of some kind (violin/guitar maybe), a clef (treble or bass), a time signature, a sharp, a flat, and a natural. Also somewhat subjective, but IMO a quarter rest would be more distinctive than the eighth rest. Most everything else that is notation-specific (slurs, key signatures, crescendos, trills, repeats, what have you) can be pretty well approximated with what's there already, which is great.

Offline Owl

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 19:26:08 »
Damnit this is very good. Yeah I am in too. ****.

Offline Stev!e

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 20:40:08 »
Wow! Nice one biip

Offline Tefrem34

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 20:59:16 »
I am really torn with this set and kam_superuser. This is going to be a tuff decision.

Offline DrHigsby

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 21:23:02 »
I am really torn with this set and kam_superuser. This is going to be a tuff decision.

Both. Definitely both. And mix n match too.  :cool:

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 22:59:27 »
Also, this would be AWESOME with the Operator Board that's in IC right now!

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 23:14:34 »
set looks amazing. interested for sure

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:13:30 »
I bought Wraith, I wanted Bento R2 but too poor... Goddammit biip, looks like you're going to be what I invest all my money in in 2020. Your design language is so good.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #94 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 04:07:10 »
I'm totally down for a couple of the novelty sets - I've been looking for the perfect set to put on my Gherkin macroboard and THIS IS IT!

Offline pepperskog

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 07:29:14 »
+1 for glossy, also would love a norde kit

Offline Nudd

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 07:51:33 »
Very nice and handy, I'm in  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 10:22:07 »
Will there be a Canadian vendor? Plenty of time to start planning that, I think.

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 10:24:30 »
Will there be a Canadian vendor? Plenty of time to start planning that, I think.

Yup :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Playground
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 12:18:23 »
Biip apologize to my wallet. LMAO.

Another winner of a design. :thumb: