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Offline Glenthorne

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 02:14:10 »
Yes please! All of it! Now! ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 02:46:52 »
I would like to reiterate the points made by Escabrera and Harlekein with respect to nomad as well as the guys mentioning the slightly uninspired ISO enter key right now.

It is unreasonable (expensive and a waste of resources) to have to buy three sets to cover a small keyboard, particularly with the extreme redundancy between the base and nomad kits as well as the odd omission of full small spacebar support in the nomad. I know this is not a usual IC, but please do revise this to make it easier to stomach for those interested in putting this on a sub-60s board.

I agree that ISO Enter should at least be a vertical line (similar to the numpad enter) instead of the lonely little dot - or even an upside down L (would look a bit Tetris-style). By area, this is the largest key, it should get a larger indicator. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #102 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 03:41:57 »
GMK pixel did a pretty good job at their kitting; Although it is a bit unfair since it is a monochrome set.
However, I do believe there must be some better way to kit everything together.

By adding R2 1.75U, R3 1.25U 1.5U mods in the base kit cover most 40%(with a spacebar kit).
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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #103 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 03:58:42 »
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nomad kit can be greatly reduced in size:

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All of these are already included in base kit and are redundant for 40% layouts.

Unless the goal is to add a Nomad kit to a Rainbow kit and cover 40s that way. However, it would then require three or four more R4 1.25u keys and you can drop all the 1u keys.

Base kit contains 4x 1u R4 mods keycaps. I wanted to offer 2x more for arrows + lower/raise.
1u R3 green dot is intended to be Caps Lock/Enter (base kit is offering the other).
1u R2 mod is for symmetry.
1u R2 orange is for Esc.
1.75u R3 Green is Enter. Edit: there is one in base indeed.
1.50 R4 Yellow is Shift.
All the colored 1u R4 mods are for symmetry on Preonic or any similar layout.

I could add some spacebars in it, but I still think most of the keycaps migth be needed for some layouts.
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 January 2021, 05:07:38 by biip »

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 04:11:42 »
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nomad kit can be greatly reduced in size:

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All of these are already included in base kit and are redundant for 40% layouts.

Unless the goal is to add a Nomad kit to a Rainbow kit and cover 40s that way. However, it would then require three or four more R4 1.25u keys and you can drop all the 1u keys.

Base kit contains 4x 1u R4 mods keycaps. I wanted to offer 2x more for arrows + lower/raise.
1u R3 green dot is intended to be Caps Lock/Enter (base kit is offering the other).
1u R2 mod is for symmetry.
1u R2 orange is for Esc.
1.75u R3 Green is Enter.
1.50 R4 Yellow is Shift.
All the colored 1u R4 mods are for symmetry on Preonic or any similar layout.

I could add some spacebars in it, but I still think most of the keycaps migth be needed for some layouts.

First of all, thanks for replying to the feedback. I was worried it would be drowned in the enthousiastic responses. (I'm also excited about it, btw!)

I checked on the 40s Discord before posting this. I don't think people are particularly worried about the symmetry. No one brought that up.

As for ortho users, I seriously doubt anyone with an ortho keyboard will be buying the base kit over the Rainbow kit, unless the cost is the equal.

Some 40s users will also try to get away with Rainbow + Nomad as long as R4 1.25u isn't used.

I understand your reasoning and appreciate your effort to accommodate symmetry and that is your vision for the set. But in reality I think that's not going to be the goal of those trying to cover their board without spending a whole lot of money.
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 January 2021, 04:37:22 by harlekein »

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #105 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 06:40:12 »
Obviously yes but please consider previous suggestions to replace the ISO enter with a line and not a dot.  Love it and will buy the lot.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 08:09:50 »
Nomad kit updated.




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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 08:16:30 »
Nomad kit updated.

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Any chance of an ergo add on with just what I need to finish out an ergodox?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 10:03:40 »
Nomad kit updated.

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Thanks a ton for listening to the feedback. My only real qualms now are lack of bars in the nomad kit but this is a huge step up since the cost shouldn't be bloated. I think a 2.25u and a 2.75u should cover most boards

Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #109 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 10:12:28 »
All of the lights

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #110 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 18:36:15 »
Can't hold myself back from regularly checking this thread, really looking forward to the GB!
However, I would like to know your opinion on the ISO enter key, even if you don't plan on changing it.
I apologize if you were already in the process of responding, but reading the other replies it seems like I'm not the only one who would prefer a line on it.
I also like the idea of an upside down L which Jo_hannes mentioned.

Thanks a lot for your work!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #111 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 19:12:06 »
+1 for line instead of dot on iso enter!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 19:16:29 »
This'll be my first GMK set, keen!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 19:20:11 »
Wait, signature didn't update... need dots

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 23:16:53 »
those ramas are clean

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #115 on: Sat, 16 January 2021, 00:05:46 »
A+ Ramas

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #116 on: Sat, 16 January 2021, 01:51:51 »
Any discount on getting 6 rainbow kits  :cool:

Thanks on offering sth like this in r2  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 16 January 2021, 04:11:04 »
after missing the first run...i'm keeping an eye on this release date. and those deskmat and artisan options, man

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #118 on: Sat, 16 January 2021, 09:15:15 »
ITS HAPPENING GUYS ITS HAPPENING, I SAVED UP MONEY JUST FOR THIS. *dies*

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #119 on: Sat, 16 January 2021, 09:21:02 »
Does the Rainbow Rama change colors depending on the angle and light shining on it (metallic)? Can't really tell how it will look in real life from the render. If it does, that's awesome.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #120 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 14:40:57 »
Does the Rainbow Rama change colors depending on the angle and light shining on it (metallic)? Can't really tell how it will look in real life from the render. If it does, that's awesome.

Just google "rainbow pvd coating"

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #121 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:50:27 »
Down for it, when is the expected GB?  Nice stuff.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #122 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 19:57:04 »
Yes! The keycap that brought me into the hobby... Please let me buy it  :(

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #123 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 20:54:37 »
Does the Rainbow Rama change colors depending on the angle and light shining on it (metallic)? Can't really tell how it will look in real life from the render. If it does, that's awesome.

if the vaporwave rama is any indication, yes, the colors look different depending on direct or indirect lighting. Even if it's a little different, probably pretty cool.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #124 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 22:01:55 »
Does the Rainbow Rama change colors depending on the angle and light shining on it (metallic)? Can't really tell how it will look in real life from the render. If it does, that's awesome.

Just google "rainbow pvd coating"

Thanks, that answered my question. Def getting that rama.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 01:33:21 »
Is there any actual indenture or indentation on the dots? 

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 01:38:16 »
Yes please!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #127 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 02:15:03 »
Is there any actual indenture or indentation on the dots?

On the GMK caps, no. There’s homing caps as usual. On the Rama caps, yes.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 03:08:04 »


For those who were wondering how that'd look with that "inline" ISO dot.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #129 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:34:25 »
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For those who were wondering how that'd look with that "inline" ISO dot.

Please and thank you.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #130 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:51:06 »
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For those who were wondering how that'd look with that "inline" ISO dot.

Very nice.  It is all part of our evil plan to convert all ANSI users to ISO.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 14:11:14 »
Any idea as to how much the rainbow kits will cost?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #132 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 15:58:15 »
Sad that there's no ergo kit  :(

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 19:38:22 »
Any chance we’ll see a Colevrak kit?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #134 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 05:38:02 »
+1 for an Ergodox kit for this!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #135 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 07:13:31 »
Looks to me like the base kit doesn't have enough 1u mod-colored keys to cover layouts with two left-side macro columns (think J-01, VE.A, Qefreny, Sinc ...). I'd hate to be forced to buy the huge rainbow addon kit just to get these couple of extra keys, might it be worth considering adding them to base or even nomad ?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #136 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 07:22:35 »
Any chance for a row 5?
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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 09:44:39 »
Oooo yes yes yes

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 12:44:39 »
I *LOVE* the rainbow add on kit. It's a great option, with a lot of macro pad potential if not used as alphas. A kit of monochrome modifiers to make the whole board monochrome might be cool too, but I get that there may not be enough interest.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #139 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 14:11:22 »
I REALLY wish I had enough money to participate in the GB :(
I guess the real question for me now is, v3 when?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 15:58:46 »
Every desk mat. My god.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #141 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 17:29:13 »
Maybe a nice chant will help raise awareness?
Er-go! Er-go! Er-go!
Come on! Our white Ergodox could use that light set!
Er-go! Er-go!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #142 on: Tue, 19 January 2021, 17:42:50 »
Very nice, guess I'm grabbing both dark, light and each rainbow kit
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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #143 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 02:06:43 »
I'm so thankful you made a second version of GMK Dots, I will probably get two just to stay on the safe side for future keyboards of mine.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #144 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 02:41:28 »
Can we please let this GB run into March, just a day or two? Makes it abit easier on the budget for February

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #145 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 02:50:42 »
Can we please let this GB run into March, just a day or two? Makes it abit easier on the budget for February
I think just let this gb run in march, since we have gmk agent 01, gmk iceberg, gmk birch, etc. in feb already and I want them all :0

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #146 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 04:12:06 »
oh whut, is there no ergo set this time??

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #147 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 04:13:31 »
Can we please let this GB run into March, just a day or two? Makes it abit easier on the budget for February
If you need the GB to extend because you're living paycheck to paycheck, I'm sorry to say it, but you really shouldn't be buying more GMK keycaps in the first place.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 04:30:05 »
Can we please let this GB run into March, just a day or two? Makes it abit easier on the budget for February
If you need the GB to extend because you're living paycheck to paycheck, I'm sorry to say it, but you really shouldn't be buying more GMK keycaps in the first place.
Thank for the advise, but it's alright, I have a pretty healthy economy and just like limit myself abit

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Re: [IC] GMK Dots 2
« Reply #149 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 07:10:38 »
For those who were wondering how that'd look with that "inline" ISO dot.

Sorry for butchering it but ...