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Offline elcubismo

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:13:52 »
I have to choose whether i make the original HHKB layout or WKL.. what do you think?

If you had to choose one, the HHKB layout option will probably be more popular.
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:54:19 »
I have to choose whether i make the original HHKB layout or WKL.. what do you think?

I would be a bigger fan of the WKL, HHKB layouts seem a bit saturated right now with the Rama M60 and Tokyo60 boards just having finished up.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:02:13 »
There are very few MX compatible True-Happy keyboards, if any. I just can think on the Tina-A. There have been many M0110 style boards, already. Therefore the True-Happy is a more innovative option for the Fusion60.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:10:34 »
There are very few MX compatible True-Happy keyboards, if any. I just can think on the Tina-A. There have been many M0110 style boards, already. Therefore the True-Happy is a more innovative option for the Fusion60.
I never found the true mx compatible HHKBs look that good tbh due to the lack of symmetry. HHKB I think kind of addresses it by placing their sticker on the right side. Of course this is my opinion, and I can respect yours.

Any idea if the true hhkb Tina sold as well as the symmetrical hhkb layout?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:16:39 »
There are very few MX compatible True-Happy keyboards, if any. I just can think on the Tina-A. There have been many M0110 style boards, already. Therefore the True-Happy is a more innovative option for the Fusion60.
I never found the true mx compatible HHKBs look that good tbh due to the lack of symmetry. HHKB I think kind of addresses it by placing their sticker on the right side. Of course this is my opinion, and I can respect yours.

Any idea if the true hhkb Tina sold as well as the symmetrical hhkb layout?

Totally understandable. It is a very personal choice. The only point being that the supply for TH full height boards is very limited; but, there is no demand data available. Of course, the Tina-A is in stock at KBDFans. If some needs one she can always get it there, and the pricing is more than fair.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:22:09 »
There are very few MX compatible True-Happy keyboards, if any. I just can think on the Tina-A. There have been many M0110 style boards, already. Therefore the True-Happy is a more innovative option for the Fusion60.
I never found the true mx compatible HHKBs look that good tbh due to the lack of symmetry. HHKB I think kind of addresses it by placing their sticker on the right side. Of course this is my opinion, and I can respect yours.

Any idea if the true hhkb Tina sold as well as the symmetrical hhkb layout?

Totally understandable. It is a very personal choice. The only point being that the supply for TH full height boards is very limited; but, there is no demand data available. Of course, the Tina-A is in stock at KBDFans. If some needs one she can always get it there, and the pricing is more than fair.
Well, I guess that is what an IC is for. You true HHKB layout fans make your voices heard!

I have no voice in this as I'm likely to get the standard 60 layout haha

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 13:31:22 »
I suppose you are forgoing the side RGB underglow then?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 14:27:19 »
Case looks stunning, can't wait to see how the prototype turns out  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 16:11:33 »
$190 is a ridiculously low price for a top-mount keyboard that includes a brass plate, brass weight, and a PCB.
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 18:33:09 »
I'm not the biggest fan of the design, but the price is low enough to make this interesting to me regardless.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #110 on: Sat, 12 May 2018, 09:51:53 »
Typing this on a Tina-A, just ordered a Rama M60, thinking about the Tokyo60 when that reruns.

I don't need another HHKB MX board. I don't need another HHKB MX board. I don't need another HHKB MX board...

I do need another HHKB MX board. True HHKB layout version would cause some real problems for me.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 08:59:39 »
Typing this on a Tina-A, just ordered a Rama M60, thinking about the Tokyo60 when that reruns.

I don't need another HHKB MX board. I don't need another HHKB MX board. I don't need another HHKB MX board...

I do need another HHKB MX board. True HHKB layout version would cause some real problems for me.

I suppose that what you want is a keyboard with a similar layout to M0110A, right? What are the real problems that a Happy layout causes you?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 09:35:01 »
Probably in for the default 60%. Nice pricing!   

Let me ask something since I didn't follow the post recently:

- Will we see color samples before GB starts? Especially purple. 
- The DZ60 will be the type-c version?
- Brass coated somehow? 
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 10:34:14 »
Typing this on a Tina-A, just ordered a Rama M60, thinking about the Tokyo60 when that reruns.

I don't need another HHKB MX board. I don't need another HHKB MX board. I don't need another HHKB MX board...

I do need another HHKB MX board. True HHKB layout version would cause some real problems for me.

I suppose that what you want is a keyboard with a similar layout to M0110A, right? What are the real problems that a Happy layout causes you?

That I would have a compulsive need to buy it.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #114 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 11:43:01 »
I suppose you are forgoing the side RGB underglow then?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 11:58:52 »
Great pricing if you can keep close to the stated $190! Definitely gonna keep an eye on this project, I really like the design of the case. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #116 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 12:00:44 »
Could we opt out of the PCB?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #117 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 17:16:20 »
Are there any physical prototypes? Might jump in on this when it comes up

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 18:41:35 »
I suppose you are forgoing the side RGB underglow then?

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Ohh sorry i missed this,,,, yes, this case will have no RGB. from the IC more people wanted to keep it solid with no RGB lighting

Probably in for the default 60%. Nice pricing!   

Let me ask something since I didn't follow the post recently:

- Will we see color samples before GB starts? Especially purple. 
- The DZ60 will be the type-c version?
- Brass coated somehow? 

- yes, right now im focusing to get the prototype done, after that I will post color sample  ;D
- Yes type-C the REV 2 version
- my manufacturer said that the brass is already shiny enough so i wont be needing any coating.. but we'll see later when its done

Could we opt out of the PCB?

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Yes you can  :thumb:


Are there any physical prototypes? Might jump in on this when it comes up

Prototype is in the making, hopefully it will be finish this week  ;D ;D     



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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 20:22:21 »
I'm sure the brass will need coating otherwise it will oxidize. I have R1 E6 v2, the brass weight and plate were alright when I received them as they were sand blasted. But as time progressed, they are kind of looking dirty. Coating is a must!

Don't care if you PVD or simple treatment.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 21:01:24 »
I need a case with an hhkb layout and this seems to be the right one with the right price  :eek:

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 21:58:14 »
I'm sure the brass will need coating otherwise it will oxidize. I have R1 E6 v2, the brass weight and plate were alright when I received them as they were sand blasted. But as time progressed, they are kind of looking dirty. Coating is a must!

Don't care if you PVD or simple treatment.
I like the patina brass accumulates over time, but to each their own :)

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« Reply #122 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:38:53 »
I'm sure the brass will need coating otherwise it will oxidize. I have R1 E6 v2, the brass weight and plate were alright when I received them as they were sand blasted. But as time progressed, they are kind of looking dirty. Coating is a must!

Don't care if you PVD or simple treatment.
I like the patina brass accumulates over time, but to each their own :)

yeah any coating will be fine, but must be coated




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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 17:29:32 »
This may be just me...but this reminds me of a combination of Hammer case and Tokyo60...
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #124 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 21:59:41 »
I think the OP is thinking of electrolytic coating or plating, where as we may want a simple clear coat to protect the raw brass from oxidation.

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« Reply #125 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 06:50:24 »
I think the OP is thinking of electrolytic coating or plating, where as we may want a simple clear coat to protect the raw brass from oxidation.

eplating +a plastic cheap coat might be the cheaper way 




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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 07:27:01 »
Do you have any pictures or renders how the purple will look?

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[IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #127 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 07:44:43 »
I suppose you are forgoing the side RGB underglow then?

Bump! In case you missed this, Vulcan.

Ohh sorry i missed this,,,, yes, this case will have no RGB. from the IC more people wanted to keep it solid with no RGB lighting

Since this is still an IC phase, I would like to say that now without the RGB underglow possible, I’m starting to question the aesthetics of the side pattern (the one that gave you so much trouble, which was initially there to allow RGB lighting to bleed through) and whether plain side panel would actually be more aesthetically pleasing.

Thoughts?
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #128 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 13:17:17 »
I suppose you are forgoing the side RGB underglow then?

Bump! In case you missed this, Vulcan.

Ohh sorry i missed this,,,, yes, this case will have no RGB. from the IC more people wanted to keep it solid with no RGB lighting

Since this is still an IC phase, I would like to say that now without the RGB underglow possible, I’m starting to question the aesthetics of the side pattern (the one that gave you so much trouble, which was initially there to allow RGB lighting to bleed through) and whether plain side panel would actually be more aesthetically pleasing.

Thoughts?

Flat side would be preferable for me personally.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #129 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 20:39:47 »
The angled side is a cool feature IMO. I would only be in favor of removing it if it substantially reduced the price.
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #130 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:14:38 »
The side design is what sets it apart from other cases and part of the reason I found the case interesting.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #131 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:44:13 »
Do you have any pictures or renders how the purple will look?

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I will post the color sample after the prototype is done

I suppose you are forgoing the side RGB underglow then?

Bump! In case you missed this, Vulcan.

Ohh sorry i missed this,,,, yes, this case will have no RGB. from the IC more people wanted to keep it solid with no RGB lighting

Since this is still an IC phase, I would like to say that now without the RGB underglow possible, I’m starting to question the aesthetics of the side pattern (the one that gave you so much trouble, which was initially there to allow RGB lighting to bleed through) and whether plain side panel would actually be more aesthetically pleasing.

Thoughts?

First reason is the side design was made to differentiate my case design from other case design out there. so it' s not made to initially allow RGB light to bleed through.

Second reason I remove the RGB is because the IC results, there are more people like the case to be solid with out RGB.

Third reason is because, adding RGB defuser means adding more $$$..

Fourth reason is I want this case to be manufacture able in my home county (Indonesia). In my country finding a good defuser is hard. I found one.. but its price is to high.

The angled side is a cool feature IMO. I would only be in favor of removing it if it substantially reduced the price.

removing it will not affect the price  ;D

The side design is what sets it apart from other cases and part of the reason I found the case interesting.

Yep i agree.. finding a new case design is a bit tricky now days..

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:48:13 »
I would keep the design as is. Even if it came with side glow I would disable it.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #133 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 10:48:57 »
How's the prototype coming along?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #134 on: Thu, 24 May 2018, 19:49:02 »
How's the prototype coming along?

we receive the prototype yesterday, but there is a problem, so we return it to the factory to be fix.

the problem is all of the parts that are made with brass is to big to fit.. I think this problem happen because of the machining not the design. For the prototype we made 2 type of weight, aluminum and brass... the aluminum seems to work just fine, but the brass wont fit to the slot.





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« Reply #135 on: Thu, 24 May 2018, 22:39:56 »
How's the prototype coming along?

we receive the prototype yesterday, but there is a problem, so we return it to the factory to be fix.

the problem is all of the parts that are made with brass is to big to fit.. I think this problem happen because of the machining not the design. For the prototype we made 2 type of weight, aluminum and brass... the aluminum seems to work just fine, but the brass wont fit to the slot.

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make sure the tolerances were communicated clearly, as some manufacturers machine to low tolerances if not specified. Other than that, the anodizing looks pretty clean!

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« Reply #136 on: Thu, 24 May 2018, 22:47:08 »
Just to confirm, this is top mount case right? Not tray mount. Because as per the provided renders, it's clearly top mount. I just wanna make sure :D

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #137 on: Thu, 24 May 2018, 23:14:07 »
No images of bottom case?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #138 on: Fri, 25 May 2018, 01:04:12 »
How's the prototype coming along?

we receive the prototype yesterday, but there is a problem, so we return it to the factory to be fix.

the problem is all of the parts that are made with brass is to big to fit.. I think this problem happen because of the machining not the design. For the prototype we made 2 type of weight, aluminum and brass... the aluminum seems to work just fine, but the brass wont fit to the slot.

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make sure the tolerances were communicated clearly, as some manufacturers machine to low tolerances if not specified. Other than that, the anodizing looks pretty clean!

yea.. but i think they just use the wrong tool for cutting brass. i hope they can fix it

Just to confirm, this is top mount case right? Not tray mount. Because as per the provided renders, it's clearly top mount. I just wanna make sure :D

Yes, this is top mount  ;D


No images of bottom case?

we also return the bottom case ro the factory. they need it to measure the slot where the brass weight will be insert... We will post picture later 

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #139 on: Fri, 25 May 2018, 01:14:02 »
also interested!  :thumb: price looks good
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #140 on: Fri, 25 May 2018, 15:10:02 »
Will this be available in red? (Preferably bright red.)

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #141 on: Sat, 26 May 2018, 18:28:57 »
will it be possible to purchase both a regular and hhkb layout top piece in the gb?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 26 May 2018, 20:43:37 »
Will this be available in red? (Preferably bright red.)

Yes, will be available in red  :thumb:

will it be possible to purchase both a regular and hhkb layout top piece in the gb?

yes you can  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #143 on: Sun, 27 May 2018, 11:32:14 »
Any chance for a dark green color option? Really interested either way, but that would get me in for multiple tops for sure.

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #144 on: Mon, 28 May 2018, 08:11:50 »
This is how the prototype looks like.. we cant make the sides looks as sharp like the 3d render.. what do you guys think? Should I keep it like that or remove the side design?

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #145 on: Mon, 28 May 2018, 08:51:27 »
Keep it! It gives it character.
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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #146 on: Mon, 28 May 2018, 08:56:50 »
Keep it! It gives it character.

Agreed, I say keep it. Still looks good to me.  :thumb:

Offline SteffeMK

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #147 on: Mon, 28 May 2018, 09:19:56 »
This is how the prototype looks like.. we cant make the sides looks as sharp like the 3d render.. what do you guys think? Should I keep it like that or remove the side design?
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Still looks good, this is an instant buy for me. Have you decided on a date for when the gb will start?

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Offline jlee755

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #148 on: Mon, 28 May 2018, 10:18:42 »
This is how the prototype looks like.. we cant make the sides looks as sharp like the 3d render.. what do you guys think? Should I keep it like that or remove the side design?
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I think it'd be cool to see different angles of the side design. I think I still like it but the picture doesn't represent it well.

Offline p_blaze

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Re: [IC] FUSION60 (Final Design & Estimate Price)
« Reply #149 on: Mon, 28 May 2018, 11:00:07 »
I like it!