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Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 11 November 2011, 17:20:13
Doubleshot REDESC + RGBY kit with faux Cherry legends

Status: FINISHED


ALL ORDERS HAVE SHIPPED!


[ATTACH=CONFIG]40125[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40124[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40126[/ATTACH]

See this post (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23865-ORDER-SENT-Faux-Cherry-Red-ESC-RGBY-modifier-kit&p=511267&viewfull=1#post511267) and this post (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23865-SHIPPING-Faux-Cherry-Red-ESC-RGBY-modifier-kit&p=521538&viewfull=1#post521538) for more pictures.

ESC PROTOTYPE

The Esc prototype turned out really well.  A tad too small is all.  cycloverid has made some adjustments so the final version should look even better than this.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]34425[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35266[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35267[/ATTACH]


PAYMENTS

70 / 73 received

[============ 96% done =======================================>...]

hashbaz...........2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................Local..... DUE: [STRIKE]$39.50[/STRIKE]
PAID![/B]
demik.............4x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$51.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
wongster..........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Local..... DUE: [STRIKE]$19.75[/STRIKE]  PAID![/B]
malik17th.........2x REDESC..............................Can/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
[STRIKE]RColinTaylor......4x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI 2x SHIFT-ISO....USA/Std... DUE: $58.00[/STRIKE] SHAFTED! by Paypal
AlleyViper........2x REDESC..............................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$11.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Hakhu.............5x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$36.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Wraul.............10x REDESC 6x RGBY-ISO 3x SHIFT-ANSI...Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$159.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
reaper............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI 1x SHIFT-ANSI...USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$27.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Vornath...........2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
DanGWanG..........2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$25.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Brendan...........2x REDESC..............................Can/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Grond.............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO..................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$25.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
bavman............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Paulie............2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ISO..................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$45.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
The_Ed............1x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$5.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
dorkvader.........2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
calavera..........2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
hOngE.............5x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO 2x RGBY-ANSI.....Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$70.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Quarzac...........2x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Mackem............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO..................Intl/Std.. DUE: $25.75
Alasdair..........5x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO..................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$36.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Atenacius.........3x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$11.25[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
HoboBob...........5x REDESC..............................Can/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$19.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
cmh...............2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Leftoverrice......2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Kisakuku..........4x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................Local..... DUE: [STRIKE]$45.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
tjweir............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO 1x RGBY-ANSI.....Can/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
AbsurdMan.........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
jpm804............2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$25.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
7roi..............2x RGBY-ANSI...........................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$40.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
lyk503............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Bongoojingie......5x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$50.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
ruiner17..........2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$25.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Reptile...........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI 1x SHIFT-ISO....USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$27.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
N8N...............3x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$28.25[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
bongmist..........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$25.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
agor..............4x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO 1x SHIFT-ANSI....Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$39.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
dux...............2x REDESC..............................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$11.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
inlikeflynn.......5x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$16.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Kaiserreich.......2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$28.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Weapon............2x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
tsangan...........2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$42.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
[STRIKE]Monja.............1x RGBY-ISO............................Intl/Std.. DUE: $23.00[/STRIKE] NO-SHOW
Intense...........1x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$5.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Dox...............2x REDESC..............................Can/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
[STRIKE]dvdhsu............2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: $25.50[/STRIKE] NO-SHOW
nerfredux.........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$25.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Ascaii............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO 1x SHIFT-ISO.....Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$30.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
feng..............4x REDESC 4x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$82.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
laggy-gaga........6x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$39.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
biochem...........2x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
thegunner100......1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
litster...........8x REDESC 4x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$96.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
JesuswwasaZombie..1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Local..... DUE: [STRIKE]$19.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
adelek............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Biniaris..........3x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$11.25[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Zoop..............1x RGBY-ANSI...........................Can/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$23.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Jam...............2x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
pitashen..........2x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Torgee............4x REDESC..............................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$17.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
michaelgasser17...2x REDESC..............................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$11.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
cycloverid........2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$25.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
jinzo.pk3.........4x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI 1x SHIFT-ANSI...Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$39.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
infamouskid.......1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................Can/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
gojira54..........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ISO..................Intl/Std.. DUE: [STRIKE]$25.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
shawn o...........2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$25.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
zzspectrez........4x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$31.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
rainb1ood.........3x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$45.25[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
SmallFry..........1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
scrubadub.........2x REDESC..............................USA/Std... DUE: [STRIKE]$8.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
eth0s.............2x REDESC 2x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$45.50[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
Minas.............1x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$22.75[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]
boost.............2x REDESC 1x RGBY-ANSI.................USA/Pri... DUE: [STRIKE]$20.00[/STRIKE] PAID![/B]

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(Last updated 11:02 PM PDT, Fri 27 Jan 2012)


BUY DESCRIPTION

This group buy has two components: a red Escape key and an RGBY modifier kit.  You can buy one, or the other, or both.  Both will have custom legends designed to match Cherry Corp. doubleshot sets like the one shown here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20113-Official-Cherry-Double-Shot-Keycap-Set).

These will be Cherry-MX-compatible keys sized to fit modern standard-layout keyboards like the Filco, the Leopold, the Poker, Das Keyboard, Ducky, Rosewill, etc.  The red Escape key should end up looking a lot like the much-coveted vintage Cherry version:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]31713[/ATTACH]

The RGBY kit will include the standard modifiers: Control, Alt, Shift, and Super (aka the Windows key) in SP color codes RA, VCM, BDH, and YY, respectively.  Control, Alt, and Shift will use cycloverid's moogle kit legends, while the Super key will have the diamond legend from the Round 1 doubleshot set.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]31714[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]31715[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]31716[/ATTACH]

The RGBY kit is available in both ANSI and ISO variants.  The left-hand Shift key on ANSI keyboards is 2.25x, while ISO keyboards have a shorter 1.25x left Shift.  The ISO Shifts will just have the arrow legend, without the "Shift" text:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]31717[/ATTACH]

Each RGBY kit contains the following keys:
2 x 1.25x red Control[/COLOR]
2 x 1.25x blue Alt[/COLOR]
2 x 1.25x yellow Super[/COLOR]
1 x 2.75x green right Shift[/COLOR]
1 x green left Shift[/COLOR], either ISO (1.25x) or ANSI (2.25x)


SHIPPING

There are two shipping options: standard and priority.

Standard shipping means your keys will ship without a tracking number in a small bubble mailer.  One mailer will fit two or three RGBY kits or an equivalent number of red Escapes.

Priority shipping means you get a tracking number and a small cardboard box.  The boxes will fit quite a bit more than the mailers.

Standard shipping: $3 to US/Canada, $6 international
Priority shipping: $6 to US/Canada, $15 international

Special arrangements can be made for large orders.  If you're local to the San Francisco Bay Area, we can probably work out an in-person pickup.  I work in Emeryville, so if you have to take BART or cross the Bay to get to me, it's probably cheaper to go with standard shipping. :)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]31718[/ATTACH]


ORDERING

You can order by PMing me on geekhack or Deskthority (I'm also hashbaz there), posting in this thread, or emailing me at b a c o n b i t s 2 3 [at] g m a i l . c o m.  You don't need a geekhack account to buy.

However you order, you must include your forum username (if applicable), country, desired keys and quantities, and desired shipping method.  Also include your mailing address, either in your order message or a separate PM/email. I won't officially record your order until I have your mailing address.

To help disambiguate orders, please use the following codes:

REDESC
RGBY-ISO
RGBY-ANSI


You can also order extra left Shifts of either flavor:

SHIFT-ISO
SHIFT-ANSI


Example order:
hashbaz
2x REDESC
2x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping



PAYMENT

Once the order-taking phase is over (cutoff is 25 November), I will start pestering everyone to pay up.  Once all payments have been submitted to me via Paypal, I will place the order with SP.  My Paypal email is b a c o n b i t s 2 3 [at] g m a i l . c o m.

Paypal fees are baked into the key prices, so there's no need to send your payment as a gift or to add n%.


PRICING

REDESC .......$2.75
RGBY-ANSI ....$17
RGBY-ISO .....$17
SHIFT-ANSI ...$5
SHIFT-ISO ....$5


_______

Thanks to aggiejy for general advice and inspiration, and to cycloverid for creating the custom legends!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 11 November 2011, 17:21:24
Ok, here's the list I have been keeping from the interest check.  Undoubtedly there are errors here.  Please correct via post or PM, or just repeat/change your order entirely.  And don't forget to send me your mailing address via PM, and to specify a shipping preference.

I filled in a lot of ANSI/ISO based on country of origin, since many of you didn't specify.  Please double-check and correct as necessary.

Sorry for the weird formatting and "AN SI" stuff.  vBulletin, y u no display what I type?

edit: I've crossed out the preorders that have converted to real orders.

1...ESC..............csm725.............Israel..??
3...ESC..............ishtob.............US......AN SI
1...ESC..1...RGB.....Mafioso............UK......IS O
1-2.ESC..............mashingkeys........US......ANSI
1...ESC..1...RGBY....eyeshield21san.....??......??
2...ESC..1...RGBY....NumberJ............US......AN SI
1...ESC..1...RGB.....delgo..............Sweden..IS O
1...ESC..............whiskerBox.........US......AN SI
.........1...RGBY....Kick...............US......AN SI
2...ESC..2...RGBY....slueth.............??......??
1...ESC..1...RGBY....Feferi.............US......AN SI
1...ESC..............fstop..............??......??
1...ESC..1...RBGY....danielhong.........US/KOR?.??
1...ESC..1...RGBY....hazeluff...........UK......AN SI
1-2.ESC..1-2.RGBY....TheProfist.........USA.....ANSI
[STRIKE]2...ESC..1...RGB.....JesuswasaZombie....US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGB.....Intense............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGB.....Ascaii.............Germany.IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]5...ESC..............Laggy-gaga.........Aus.....??[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGB.....dvdhsu.............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]5...ESC..............Biniaris...........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..............cycloverid.........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..............Dox................Canada..AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....Mojna..............Spain...IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....nerfredux..........Australia. ANSI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..2...RGBY....dux................Germany.IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE].........2-3.RGBY....tsangan............??......??[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]5...ESC..............inlikeflynn........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1-2.ESC..1...RGB.....jpm804.............US......ANSI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....reptile............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE].........1.SHIFT-ISO.reptile............US......ANSI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE].........2...RGBY....7roi...............Korea...AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....lyk503.............USA.....AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]3...ESC..1...RGBY....N8N................US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....Grond..............Italy...IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]4...ESC..2...RGBY....RColinTaylor.......US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]3...ESC..2...RGB.....demik..............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGB.....Mackem.............??......IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..............Atenacius..........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..............The_Ed.............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]4-5.ESC..............Hakhu..............Germany.ISO[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]3...ESC..2...RGB.....hOngE..............Germany.IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2-3.ESC..1-2.RGBY....calavera...........US......ANSI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1-2.ESC..1...RGB.....wongster...........US......ANSI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2-5.ESC..............Alasdair...........Scotland.ISO[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]5...ESC..............HoboBob............Canada..AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..............Quarzac............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....DanGWanG...........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....bavman.............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..1...RGBY....dorkvader..........??......??[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..1...RGBY....Leftoverrice.......US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..2...RGBY....paulie.............UK......IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..............reaper.............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..............Brendan............Canada..AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1............RGBY....Vornath............US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]10..ESC..6...RGBY....Wraul..............Sweden..IS O[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE].........3.SHIFT-ISO.Wraul..............Sweden[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..1...RGBY....Kisakuku...........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....AbsurdMan..........US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]2...ESC..2...RGBY....cmh................US......AN SI[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]1...ESC..1...RGBY....z7nz...............??......??[/STRIKE]
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: mmmty on Fri, 11 November 2011, 22:19:20
:dizzy: :suspicious: :der:
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 11 November 2011, 22:21:36
Can we post in this thread yet?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: bavman on Fri, 11 November 2011, 22:43:01
Just want to confirm:

1 x red escape key
1 x RGBY-ansi

Standard shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 00:57:34
We're open for business people.  Sorry the OP is so huge.  I'll try to streamline it.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:00:12
oh sweet, we dont have to re-order.

actually, can you change my order to x1 RGBY set, x1 ANSI shift and x4 ESC. didn't think the RGBY would be that expensive.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:01:43
Quote from: demik;450420
oh sweet, we dont have to re-order.

Nope, just verify the order is right, fill in missing info, and PM me your mailing address.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: reaper on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:02:42
Just to confirm:

1 x REDESC
1 x RGBY-ANSI

And I wanna add:

1 x SHIFT-ANSI

Thanks, hasbaz.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:04:59
pm'd you all my info hashbaz
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:27:28
DanGWanG
2x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
Standard Shipping

Thanks!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:34:20
Quote from: DanGWanG;450428
DanGWanG
2x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
Standard Shipping

Thanks!

Don't forget to PM me your mailing address.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: calavera on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:34:47
Jesus, get rid of the yellow text, my eyes hurt.

calavera
3x REDESC
2x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:38:47
Quote from: calavera;450430
Jesus, get rid of the yellow text, my eyes hurt.

Sorry, I use the dark theme.  I'll adjust the OP so it works with both.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 01:57:18
Quote from: calavera;450430
3x REDESC
2x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping

Need your address.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: AlleyViper on Sat, 12 November 2011, 05:50:42
PM'd, thanks!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Vornath on Sat, 12 November 2011, 10:05:49
2 x REDESC
2 x RGBY-ANSI
USA
Standard shipping

Sending PM
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 12 November 2011, 10:25:56
Quote from: hashbaz;450429
Don't forget to PM me your mailing address.


PM Sent with address.  Thanks!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 10:32:10
Ok I've updated the OP with a bunch of orders.  I'm missing addresses from bavman and calavera.

Thanks everyone!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Sat, 12 November 2011, 11:09:22
Just PM'd!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Paulie on Sat, 12 November 2011, 13:25:22
PM'd to confirm.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Sat, 12 November 2011, 14:02:38
The_Ed
USA
1x REDESC
standard shipping

Shipping address will be sent shortly.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: h0ngE on Sat, 12 November 2011, 15:39:27
3...ESC..2...RGB.....hOngE..............Germany.IS O

Please change it to:

h0ngE
3x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
1x RGBY-ISO

Germany
Standard International Shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Mysteric on Sat, 12 November 2011, 17:05:54
These keys are really nice but I don't know if I can justify the price. Can I PM my info as sort of a preliminary measure and see if the prices drop?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 19:29:46
Quote from: Mackem;450718
These keys are really nice but I don't know if I can justify the price. Can I PM my info as sort of a preliminary measure and see if the prices drop?

What would you buy if the RGBYs were in the $16-$20 range?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Mysteric on Sat, 12 November 2011, 19:34:14
Quote from: hashbaz;450798
What would you buy if the RGBYs were in the $16-$20 range?

I just wanted a RGBY ISO kit and an Esc key.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 20:00:16
aggiejy's RGB kits were $13 apiece, but he had two fewer keys, no custom legends, and a couple hundred orders.  With his sets saturating the market, I fear we won't get more than one price bracket lower than we are now.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 12 November 2011, 20:05:19
Quote from: hashbaz;450823
aggiejy's RGB kits were $13 apiece, but he had two fewer keys, no custom legends, and a couple hundred orders.  With his sets saturating the market, I fear we won't get more than one price bracket lower than we are now.
We just need to wait for Taeyoung to come and pick up 30 sets
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Mysteric on Sat, 12 November 2011, 20:27:19
I'm definitely interested, just wanted to see if prices fall a bit.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Sat, 12 November 2011, 20:29:27
putting in your order will help the price fall a bit.

people waiting aren't exactly helping.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sat, 12 November 2011, 20:47:16
Quote from: hashbaz;450823
aggiejy's RGB kits were $13 apiece, but he had two fewer keys, no custom legends, and a couple hundred orders.  With his sets saturating the market, I fear we won't get more than one price bracket lower than we are now.

What? thats crazy. I own one of Aggiejy's and because you are coming out with a different blue, and because I want my new board to match this current one, I have to get TWO sets of yours.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 12 November 2011, 21:18:20
Quote from: RColinTaylor;450857
What? thats crazy. I own one of Aggiejy's and because you are coming out with a different blue, and because I want my new board to match this current one, I have to get TWO sets of yours.


Well, I would love to be wrong.  I think that powder blue of his is the best thing we have going for us. :)

(http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww308/ldezarn0001/dumb.jpg)
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 13 November 2011, 02:58:23
Quote from: hashbaz;450884
Well, I would love to be wrong.  I think that powder blue of his is the best thing we have going for us. :)

Show Image
(http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww308/ldezarn0001/dumb.jpg)

Can we make this a RGBO(range) now?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 13 November 2011, 02:59:38
Interest check!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 13 November 2011, 03:01:31
Quote from: hashbaz;451021
Interest check!

I want a week off from Interest Checks; they get exhausting after awhile.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 13 November 2011, 11:16:07
We're half way on RGBYs and getting close on REDESC!  Come on everyone confirm your preliminary orders!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 13 November 2011, 15:18:26
:bump2:
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 13 November 2011, 17:41:00
Can you add another RGBY to mine: I dig the diamond legend.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 13 November 2011, 17:50:51
Quote from: dorkvader;451370
Can you add another RGBY to mine: I dig the diamond legend.

Done!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: calavera on Sun, 13 November 2011, 17:51:51
I'd like the subtract one ESC from my order please.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Atenacius on Sun, 13 November 2011, 17:59:51
PM sent, I forgot to include my email address, though. I'll PM you a follow up with my email address

Edit: Good call. I just hoped it would be fine
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Sun, 13 November 2011, 18:03:32
Quote from: Atenacius;451395
PM sent, I forgot to include my email address, though. It's
might want to space it out, or PM it to him.

bots might be lurking
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 08:41:58
Good Monday everyone!  A new work week is beginning -- time to order some keys.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Kisakuku on Mon, 14 November 2011, 13:04:36
2 REDESC
1 RGBY-ANSI

Shipping: local pickup
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 13:49:27
Melissa tells me that BDH and BFK, my first and second choices for blue, are both out of stock until December. :-\

This means SP won't be able to start production until January.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: dux on Mon, 14 November 2011, 14:24:38
Quote from: hashbaz;451952
Melissa tells me that BDH and BFK, my first and second choices for blue, are both out of stock until December. :-\

This means SP won't be able to start production until January.

come on then let's handle that over to Round Four, saving shipping costs and the Round 4 will maybe be cheaper.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Mon, 14 November 2011, 14:28:24
Quote from: dux;451975
come on then let's handle that over to Round Four, saving shipping costs and the Round 4 will maybe be cheaper.

I agree with this, as long as the content of the order remains the same.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 14 November 2011, 15:04:31
Is BO available? If you do not want to change colour then I suggest we wait till Jan for production.

I don't really want to opt for round 4 only because of how long it takes and the chance of error is much higher for everyone to get the right keys, round 4's delivery is probably not for another 6 months ;p
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: z7nz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 15:14:54
Quote from: tsangan;452000
Is BO available? If you do not want to change colour then I suggest we wait till Jan for production.

I don't really want to opt for round 4 only because of how long it takes and the chance of error is much higher for everyone to get the right keys, round 4's delivery is probably not for another 6 months ;p
This. How about BFP or BO?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Mon, 14 November 2011, 15:24:06
Quote from: z7nz;452008
This. How about BFP or BO?

BO seems pretty similar to BDH according to the pictures. How is it in real life? As for BFP, it's the closest to the original Cherry RGB blue, I wouldn't mind it either.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 15:26:24
I feel very hesitant about merging with R4.  Even if we wait until January for production, I'm sure we'll beat R4 to the mailbox by a good stretch.  I've locked horns with others about this before.  I don't agree that we should be combining a year's worth of group buys into one super buy, even if it saves us a bit of money and allows us to get some obscure, low-demand sets made.  There is a place for the superbuy, and I'm grateful to 7bit for doing it, but it shouldn't stop smaller more nimble buys from happening.

BO is available but I'm not crazy about it.  I'll bust out the samples and take some pictures tonight.  I'm currently waiting on an email from Melissa on when the keys would be ready if we go with BO.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Mon, 14 November 2011, 15:44:54
Just wait till January; I will be less poor then anyways. <3 Christmas money.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Mon, 14 November 2011, 15:56:22
Quote from: hashbaz;452018
Even if we wait until January for production, I'm sure we'll beat R4 to the mailbox by a good stretch.

If that is the case, I'm ok with waiting. I'd also consider another color, but in practice it's hard to tell without seeing the color samples in real life...
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Vornath on Mon, 14 November 2011, 16:25:28
I would prefer to wait and keep BDH.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 18:05:46
We just hit the minimum quantity of REDESC.  Sweet.  Only 13 more RGBY to go...
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: N8N on Mon, 14 November 2011, 18:22:37
*sigh*  Might as well give into temptation.  I've already got the previous iterations, but still.  Guess they will be up for sale if this works out.

N8N
3x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 18:28:14
You made the right decision, N8N.  Please PM me your address.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 23:01:33
I've updated the second post by crossing out the preorders that have converted to real orders.  If all the uncrossed-out people converted we'd add around 30 RGBY, putting us at 67 total.  This would yield something like $18/$15 for RGBY-ANSI/ISO.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: z7nz on Mon, 14 November 2011, 23:27:37
Quote from: hashbaz;452325
I've updated the second post by crossing out the preorders that have converted to real orders.  If all the uncrossed-out people converted we'd add around 30 RGBY, putting us at 67 total.  This would yield something like $18/$15 for RGBY-ANSI/ISO.
Great. Imo if you put these prices next to the "Next price breaks" in the OP, people'll consider buying more :smile:
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Post by: Atenacius on Tue, 15 November 2011, 01:39:34
So does this mean that we will extend the order date to include more orders, with the risk of people dropping out? Or continue on and place the order soon to ensure our current order amounts?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: jpm804 on Tue, 15 November 2011, 01:47:56
2x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 02:21:12
Just two more RGBYs until the minimum order is met and we will for sure get at least the original posted prices! (phew).
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: 7roi on Tue, 15 November 2011, 03:27:36
2x RGBY-ANSI
South Korea

Standard Shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: lyk503 on Tue, 15 November 2011, 03:41:38
lyk503
1x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 03:42:35
7roi clinches it!  We made the minimum order.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 03:46:40
What was the pricing scale that SP gave you?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:02:30
By minimum order I just mean the volume at which I calculated the prices in the OP.  It's nothing that SP is enforcing.  So if we didn't make it to 75 REDESC and 40 RGBY, then the prices would have gone up or we would have had to scrap the buy (or maybe just the RGBY sets).

The base key breakdowns I'm working from are posted in the interest check thread.  These don't include the legend setup fees, the shipping cost from SP, Paypal seller fees, etc., all of which are baked into the final prices.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:06:16
Okay, I have reviewed the overall price structure and my initial reaction is that it would be cheaper for everyone if the ISO and ANSI were included in the same kit. Also, if we need to, let me know before this wraps up as to where we sit count wise and I will do what I can to get both the ESC's and RGBY's into the next price bracket; though I will be lurking this thread as I do everything else.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:15:12
Quote from: RColinTaylor;452496
Okay, I have reviewed the overall price structure and my initial reaction is that it would be cheaper for everyone if the ISO and ANSI were included in the same kit. Also, if we need to, let me know before this wraps up as to where we sit count wise and I will do what I can to get both the ESC's and RGBY's into the next price bracket; though I will be lurking this thread as I do everything else.

RColinTaylor is watching ... always watching

(http://0.tqn.com/d/create/1/0/G/y/A/-/roz.jpg)

I'll verify that you're right re: price structure and update the OP accordingly.  Thanks!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:16:30
Quote from: hashbaz;452498
RColinTaylor is watching ... always watching

Show Image
(http://0.tqn.com/d/create/1/0/G/y/A/-/roz.jpg)


I'll verify that you're right re: price structure and update the OP accordingly.  Thanks!

I don't like that you made me a Grandmother Slug but <3.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:19:13
Quote from: RColinTaylor;452496
...I will be lurking this thread as I do everything else.

Quote from: hashbaz;452498
RColinTaylor is watching ... always watching
Quote from: RColinTaylor;452499
I don't like that you made me a Grandmother Slug but <3.

Grandmother Slug?

[video=youtube;RtWBlDC2-ss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWBlDC2-ss[/video]

(Just in case you didn't get the reference.)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:29:46
Oh poop; I haven't seen that movie in ages. Totally slipped over my head.

Also! I have done the math and decided my claim is both right and wrong. Here is what I have figured out:

Price of RGBY Base @ 50ct: $510

Price of RGBY Base + 25ct Ansi Shift: 382.75

Price of RGBY Base + 25ct Iso Shift: 291.5

Price of RGBY Base + 25ct Iso Shift + 25ct Ansi Shift (50ct total): 674.25

Price of RGBY Base + 50ct Iso Shift + 50ct Ansi Shift (50 ct total): 719.5

Price difference between the separated totals and combined totals: 45.25

Price difference between the separated totals and combined totals per set: $.905

In the end, based on the Generous assumption that half of the sets ordered will feature the much cheaper Iso shift, the increase in price for the entire buy, on average, would be $1 per set.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:45:53
We can't know exactly, but my gut feeling from the interest check thread is that the proportion of ISO kits will be more like 30%.  This is borne out in the current order split (13/28).  I just ran these numbers:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=32066&d=1321353706)

For quantities less than 75, the combined kit is a couple bucks more than the likely cost of an ISO kit, and about a buck cheaper than the likely ANSI kit (where "likely" means a 70% ANSI 30% ISO split between orders).  After 75 the combined kit does worse than both likely kits.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: agor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:47:17
I'd be interested in:
4x Escape
1x RGBY ISO
1x Intl Standard Shipping
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:54:22
Quote from: hashbaz;452505
We can't know exactly, but my gut feeling from the interest check thread is that the proportion of ISO kits will be more like 30%.  This is borne out in the current order split (13/28).  I just ran these numbers:

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=32066&d=1321353706)


For quantities less than 75, the combined kit is a couple bucks more than the likely cost of an ISO kit, and about a buck cheaper than the likely ANSI kit (where "likely" means a 70% ANSI 30% ISO split between orders).  After 75 the combined kit does worse than both likely kits.

Well then I think he final question is can the combined kit be achieved at any level by simply promoting/offering it? Having as many people as possible order both the Ansi+Iso shifts increases the discount opportunities that would otherwise be logically attained. In this I mean that, theoretically, it would be impossible to reach 75ct for both the Iso and Ansi kits individually but when combined, at the 75ct for RGBY sets, the 75ct for both shifts would be achieved.

As a way of starting this semi-movement or idea I want to change my current RGBY order to Iso+Ansi shifts; I feel I could resell them if need be easier if I appeal to both the international and domestic crowds.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 04:59:52
Quote from: RColinTaylor;452508
As a way of starting this semi-movement or idea I want to change my current RGBY order to Iso+Ansi shifts; I feel I could resell them if need be easier if I appeal to both the international and domestic crowds.

I'm not convinced yet that the combined kit is a good approach (setting aside things like resale opportunity and looking strictly at price).  It seems lame for the ISO guys to pay more so the ANSI guys can pay a bit less.

At any rate, I'll update your order and add agor, then I'm off to bed.  Gotta be up again in three hours. :-|
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 05:05:43
Quote from: agor;452506
I'd be interested in:
4x Escape
1x RGBY ISO
1x Intl Standard Shipping


PM me your mailing address and I'll add you to the list.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 05:07:53
Quote from: hashbaz;452514
I'm not convinced yet that the combined kit is a good approach (setting aside things like resale opportunity and looking strictly at price).  It seems lame for the ISO guys to pay more so the ANSI guys can pay a bit less.

At any rate, I'll update your order and add agor, then I'm off to bed.  Gotta be up again in three hours. :-|

I think its all a concept; One more key for everyone for an equal price or one less for an uneven cost but still the same amount of joy. Personally, $3 more or less isn't too bad but to others it is so its not something that should be set in stone this late in the game. I don't have an ISO shift and probably never will but if it is something I can have at the end of the day that will make my kit more complete I will get it; not to mention those ISO shifters need some help getting their proper discounts.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 05:10:00
Quote from: RColinTaylor;452518
I think its all a concept; One more key for everyone for an equal price or one less for an uneven cost but still the same amount of joy. Personally, $3 more or less isn't too bad but to others it is so its not something that should be set in stone this late in the game. I don't have an ISO shift and probably never will but if it is something I can have at the end of the day that will make my kit more complete I will get it; not to mention those ISO shifters need some help getting their proper discounts.

Well that's certainly fine with me.  Makes the math easier. :)
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 05:17:03
Quote from: hashbaz;452519
Well that's certainly fine with me.  Makes the math easier. :)

Ugh I hate math; if it were possible to just say that every keycap in my group buy were $2 I would do it but its just not logistically fair.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 05:33:33
Quote from: RColinTaylor;452503
Oh poop; I haven't seen that movie in ages. Totally slipped over my head.


I just peeked at your profile and realized that you were 10 years old when this movie was released.  The reminders that I'm no longer "young" are coming more and more often these days...
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 15 November 2011, 16:03:07
Quote from: hashbaz;452525
I just peeked at your profile and realized that you were 10 years old when this movie was released.  The reminders that I'm no longer "young" are coming more and more often these days...

Strangely enough I only ever saw it once; most people my age have seen it 10 or so times. Now, if you want to talk about The Sandlot, give me a call because I used to watch that movie every day.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 15 November 2011, 16:14:39
So what's going on with the blue are we waiting it out till January for production? Or we switching to BO for the blue?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 16:34:00
Quote from: tsangan;452822
So what's going on with the blue are we waiting it out till January for production? Or we switching to BO for the blue?

BDH is the right color -- I'll regret it if we switch.  We wait till January!
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Post by: Mysteric on Tue, 15 November 2011, 17:32:42
Oh this isn't going ahead until around January? Could be a blessing in disguise; I'll have more money then!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 17:54:04
Quote from: Mackem;452901
Oh this isn't going ahead until around January? Could be a blessing in disguise; I'll have more money then!

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25394&d=1314809157)
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Post by: demik on Tue, 15 November 2011, 17:58:01
Wait, we are waiting till January to submit payment? Oh I'll definitely pick up another set then.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Mysteric on Tue, 15 November 2011, 17:58:32
Just need a cheap key puller now. Keyboardco has them for £3 but it's like £4 delivery :(

Also, I just read $16 for RGBY for us ISO guys if no-one bails on their order. That's amazing news!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 18:05:34
Quote from: demik;452919
Wait, we are waiting till January to submit payment? Oh I'll definitely pick up another set then.

I'm not sure yet what exactly we'll be doing wrt collecting payments and closing orders.  I don't want the buy to grow stale and have people lose interest.  Regardless, SP won't get more BDH in until mid-December, meaning production won't start until January.

Should I add another RGBY-ANSI to your order?
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Post by: demik on Tue, 15 November 2011, 18:09:08
yessir
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 18:11:49
Quote from: demik;452929
yessir

Done!
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Post by: Atenacius on Tue, 15 November 2011, 18:35:35
Please don't hesitate to send me an email reminding me to pay when the time comes. Just in case I don't remember to check on the thread
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 22:04:47
Quote from: Atenacius;452940
Please don't hesitate to send me an email reminding me to pay when the time comes. Just in case I don't remember to check on the thread

Will do. :)
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 15 November 2011, 22:23:11
Updated the OP re: the production delay.
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Post by: agor on Wed, 16 November 2011, 05:56:00
Quote from: agor;452506
I'd be interested in:
4x Escape
1x RGBY ISO
1x Intl Standard Shipping


Did you miss my order? :(
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 16 November 2011, 11:00:52
Quote from: agor;453151
Did you miss my order? :(

No, but I need your shipping address.  I thought I had PMd you about this, but looking through my sent messages I guess I didn't.  Sorry!  Drop me a PM with your address and you'll be good to go.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 16 November 2011, 22:05:28
Just over half of the interest check pre-orders have ordered for real.  We're approaching price breaks at 100 REDESC and 50 RGBY.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 17 November 2011, 14:00:25
Price drop!  RGBY-ANSI and RGBY-ISO are now $20 and $18, respectively.

Next likely drops are at 50 ANSI Shifts and 100 REDESC.  So order more RGBY-ANSI and/or SHIFT-ANSI.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 17 November 2011, 23:26:46
Grond, did sixty ever get back to you re colors from the Rebel kit group buy?
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Post by: pitashen on Fri, 18 November 2011, 00:29:06
Not gonna consider including caps lock key?
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 18 November 2011, 00:39:59
Quote from: pitashen;454520
Not gonna consider including caps lock key?

Its only an RGBY and not a Moogle.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 18 November 2011, 01:22:38
Quote from: pitashen;454520
Not gonna consider including caps lock key?

What RCT said.  I'm sure there will be future rounds of moogle kits though.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 18 November 2011, 01:32:36
Quote from: hashbaz;454544
What RCT said.  I'm sure there will be future rounds of moogle kits though.

RGBYOP Set?

Red Green Blue Yellow Orange Purple?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 18 November 2011, 01:38:59
Quote from: RColinTaylor;454548
RGBYOP Set?

Red Green Blue Yellow Orange Purple?


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P19a-xaKiGY/TRMfqhFjCjI/AAAAAAAAAB4/Yai5WNfhglA/s1600/trix-cereal-303g--146-p.jpg)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 18 November 2011, 01:47:53
Quote from: hashbaz;454553
Show Image
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P19a-xaKiGY/TRMfqhFjCjI/AAAAAAAAAB4/Yai5WNfhglA/s1600/trix-cereal-303g--146-p.jpg)

Don't tempt me.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 18 November 2011, 02:00:49
Interest check!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 18 November 2011, 02:01:38
Quote from: hashbaz;454574
Interest check!

I am sick of your interest checks and checks for interest in interest checks. Make me an RGBYOP set NOW.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Fri, 18 November 2011, 04:56:36
Quote from: hashbaz;454496
Grond, did sixty ever get back to you re colors from the Rebel kit group buy?


Not at all! :(
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 18 November 2011, 18:18:21
It seems we've hit a brick wall.  Come on, pre-orderers!  Get us to 50 ANSI Shifts.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Jam on Fri, 18 November 2011, 18:58:33
Are you planning on changing the deadline with the delay in production?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 18 November 2011, 19:26:03
Quote from: Jam;455179
Are you planning on changing the deadline with the delay in production?

I'm still not sure.  I want to get as many orders as possible, obviously, but I don't want people to wait so long that they lose interest or forget about this.  I'm thinking I'll collect money for the orders we have at the current cut-off (25 November), and then if others want to join in afterward they can but they have to pay right then.  We run the risk then of me having to refund some money if we hit another price break.  Not totally sure what the best way to proceed is.

What do you guys think?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 18 November 2011, 19:48:25
Have everyone that signs up pay a deposit of $10 or whatever amount you see fit (if its too low it won't work), then when it's time for production (Janurary) you will collect the rest depending on the price break.

Same goes for everyone that wants in on the buy after the 25th, they will pay the deposit right after they put in the order, but after the 25th if you choose to opt out of the group buy you don't get your deposit back.

Now you won't have to refund anything, and you won't be afraid of people flaking afterwards.

Or you can just make everyone pay upfront :P
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Atenacius on Fri, 18 November 2011, 21:29:15
A deposit won't really change things, unless you mean to keep it even if they back out. i'll be willing to just pay up front
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 18 November 2011, 21:54:35
Quote from: Atenacius;455237
A deposit won't really change things, unless you mean to keep it even if they back out. i'll be willing to just pay up front

Quote from: tsangan;455191

but after the 25th if you choose to opt out of the group buy you don't get your deposit back.

:thumb:
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Atenacius on Fri, 18 November 2011, 23:42:16
Yeah I guess this would be alright. We wouldn't get hit as hard if someone changed their mind. The deposit might need to be scaled, though, for those that are ordering very little or a large amount. Heh, this is like US taxes
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Sat, 19 November 2011, 03:14:07
I'm ok with the deposit idea. Another option: suppose that we reach 50 rgby ansi within the 25th. I believe that another price drop is unlikely after that, so we could pay the full amount. If, on the other hand, a price drop does happen, then we could get an extra keycap instead of money refund. What about this?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 19 November 2011, 03:22:40
I like that idea better than the deposit, I think.  Collecting money from everyone twice seems like a huge hassle.  I'll talk to Melissa on Monday about when we should put the order in for an optimal manufacturing start date.  I think she said the BDH gets in a couple of days before Christmas, so it might be to our advantage to place the order before New Year's.

Maybe I'll just wait until we get 50 ANSI Shifts, and collect payment at that point.  Then others can continue to order up until I place the order, but they'll pay immediately.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 20 November 2011, 20:21:03
We only need 9 more RGBY-ANSI to hit the next price break.  Ascaii, tsangan, slueth, where my preorders at?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 20 November 2011, 20:46:14
I was going to wait till last minute lol, but you had to call me out. :peep:

2x Red Esc
2x RGBY-ANSI
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Sun, 20 November 2011, 22:05:38
Quote from: tsangan;456452
I was going to wait till last minute lol, but you had to call me out. :peep:

2x Red Esc
2x RGBY-ANSI
every time i see your avy it makes me want a HHKB :(
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 20 November 2011, 22:28:29
Quote from: tsangan;456452
I was going to wait till last minute lol, but you had to call me out. :peep:

2x Red Esc
2x RGBY-ANSI

Excellent!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 21 November 2011, 01:38:48
Quote from: demik;456487
every time i see your avy it makes me want a HHKB :(

How you still don't have one is beyond me :wacko:
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 21 November 2011, 10:56:38
Melissa just got back to me.  I need to place the order no later than December 8th for SP to start production first thing after New Year's.  So it seems like the original close date of 25 November needs to hold so we'll have plenty of time for payment collection.  Assuming we hit the order deadline on the 8th, the finished keys should ship to me on or around January 12th.

8 RGBY-ANSIs and/or SHIFT-ANSI to go until the next price break gogogogogogo.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 21 November 2011, 12:00:53
Please add another Red Esc for my order
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 21 November 2011, 16:08:40
Six ANSIs to go.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 21 November 2011, 22:09:34
Quote from: demik;451400
might want to space it out, or PM it to him.

bots might be lurking


Was reviewing orders and noticed that you quoted his address in your post (on page 3).  Could you edit it out?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:50:41
Four more RGBY-ANSIs and five more RGBY-ISOs and I can drop the price to $18 and $16.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 22 November 2011, 22:01:43
I finally got an answer out of sixty re the colors he used in the Rebel kit.  The answer is "I don't remember". :-|

No matter, since I have sent my color samples off to Biniaris to compare with his Rebel keys.  I'm not saying for sure that we'll change the colors to match, but I'd really like to know what they are since they look so beautiful.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Tue, 22 November 2011, 23:49:16
litster
8x REDESC
4x RGBY-ANSI
USA
Priority Shipping

EDIT: order quantity doubled because a friend wants what I already ordered.  PM'ed new quantity as well.  Also change to Priority shipping.  Thanks.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Hakhu on Wed, 23 November 2011, 02:22:51
I'd like to add one RGBY-ANSI set to my order.
Thanks!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 23 November 2011, 03:12:07
We've hit 50 RGBY-ANSI Shifts, everyone.  Both RGBY kits are now $17, and extra Shifts of both flavors are $5!

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/001/987/fyeah.jpg?1269221733)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Wed, 23 November 2011, 06:19:30
Quote from: hashbaz;457149
Was reviewing orders and noticed that you quoted his address in your post (on page 3).  Could you edit it out?
Done.

That was stupid of me, I tell him to do one thing then quote him without editing what I'm telling him not to do -.-
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 23 November 2011, 06:21:09
Quote from: demik;458171
Done.

That was stupid of me, I tell him to do one thing then quote him without editing what I'm telling him not to do -.-

As punishment you should be required to order 25 Ansi sets.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Wed, 23 November 2011, 06:28:50
Haha. If I had the money I would.

Also, will the ISO shift fit a choc mini?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: agor on Wed, 23 November 2011, 12:11:37
Hell, I'll add an ANSI shift to my ISO order!

+1 shift-ansi
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 23 November 2011, 15:28:03
Quote from: agor;458339
Hell, I'll add an ANSI shift to my ISO order!

+1 shift-ansi

Done.  I'm out of town for Thanksgiving so updating the OP might be sporadic for the next couple of days.  But I recorded the change in my order spreadsheet.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 24 November 2011, 11:12:18
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!  What better way to celebrate the survival of some of America's founders than by ordering some key caps?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 24 November 2011, 21:16:06
I'm always so happy to see that my invoice dollar amount keeps getting lower.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 24 November 2011, 23:16:59
Last day!  Orders will close at midnight PDT on 26 November, about 27 hours from now.  Please doublecheck that your orders are correct in the OP.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Fri, 25 November 2011, 04:58:01
Quote from: hashbaz;458782
Last day!  Orders will close at midnight PDT on 26 November, about 27 hours from now.  Please doublecheck that your orders are correct in the OP.

I'll take 5 Esc keys.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Fri, 25 November 2011, 08:29:10
If the iso small shift can fit on a choc mini, add one to my order.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 25 November 2011, 08:37:54
Quote from: demik;458889
If the iso small shift can fit on a choc mini, add one to my order.

Choc mini has a bigger right shift then the ISO layout

IIRC the choc mini has a 2x right shift
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Fri, 25 November 2011, 10:21:47
Ah. Thanks.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 25 November 2011, 14:48:37
Yeah it will be close I think, but still too small.  There was some talk of making Choc-compatible right Shifts during the interest check, but it didn't pan out.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Brendan on Sat, 26 November 2011, 22:29:32
Do we start paying you now or what?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 00:04:48
Quote from: Brendan;459440
Do we start paying you now or what?

Sorry not quite yet.  Been travelling today and now I can only post from my ipod thanks to this malware business.  I'll update the OP shortly and we'll go into collection mode.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 04:06:02
Ok guys, I've updated the OP and am ready to accept payments.

Please double-check that your order and total are correct in the OP and send payment to:

b a c o n b i t s 2 3 [at] g m a i l [dot] c o m

Don't forget to put your geekhack username in the subject line!  No need to send as gift, unless you ♥ me.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 04:23:52
Two items of business.  First, I've decided to adjust the legends for Control, Alt, and right Shift to correct issues from the moogle kits.  The moogle versions, while excellent, are a bit too thick and large.  I'll be scaling them down by 10% and having Melissa use a smaller cutter.  This should result in a noticeably closer match to real Cherry keys.  This will not affect the prices.

The difference can be seen in these images.  In the first image, Cherry keys are flanked by the black and white moogle kit keys.  In the second, the top row is the moogle kit, the middle row is Cherry doubleshots, and the bottom row is Cherry pad printed (second image stolen from jpm804):

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31575&d=1320995918)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0106.jpg)

The second item is that I might be adjusting the colors slightly, based on intelligence from Biniaris.  I sent him my color samples and he compared them with sixty's Rebel RGBY kit.  Turns out that BDH is the blue he used, but as expected the red and green are slightly different (sixty's are RR and VCS).  sixty's yellow is YBP, which is noticeably darker and more orange than YY.  I'm not sure I like it.  When I get the samples back from Bini I'll make a final decision and let you guys know.

My current feeling is that I'll probably end up keeping our colors.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Wraul on Sun, 27 November 2011, 04:54:31
Payment sent.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Paulie on Sun, 27 November 2011, 06:51:14
All paid up.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 07:10:26
Wow, you guys are fast.  Awesome.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Brendan on Sun, 27 November 2011, 08:47:35
Hey is it too late to change my order? Decided I like the black font as well and was going to purchase two of the faux cherry from you and two black font red escape's from SP.

Thanks, Brendan
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: bavman on Sun, 27 November 2011, 09:22:28
Do you just wanted payment sent as a gift?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 09:44:37
Quote from: Brendan;459532
Hey is it too late to change my order? Decided I like the black font as well and was going to purchase two of the faux cherry from you and two black font red escape's from SP.


Updated you.  You're aware that the font on the ones you get from me is different from the ones SP sells, right?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 09:45:19
Quote from: bavman;459538
Do you just wanted payment sent as a gift?


You can if you want to, but it's not necessary.  I baked the Paypal seller fee into the prices.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Brendan on Sun, 27 November 2011, 09:47:13
Yep, this is the Cherry font, where as the SP font, is, well, SP-ish. Lol. The real reason was because I have a set of engraved keys for my Poker, and I thought the black font would match better. I also have a couple sets of Cherry DS keys coming, and your white faux font would match them better haha.

Sending payment now!

Thanks, Brendan
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: HoboBob on Sun, 27 November 2011, 09:50:23
Payment sent!

Have a nice day.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 10:00:24
Quote from: Brendan;459544
Yep, this is the Cherry font, where as the SP font, is, well, SP-ish. Lol. The real reason was because I have a set of engraved keys for my Poker, and I thought the black font would match better. I also have a couple sets of Cherry DS keys coming, and your white faux font would match them better haha.

Sending payment now!

Ok cool just making sure.  I've seen a couple of instances of people misunderstanding what a group buy was about and being upset with the result.  Thanks for the prompt payment!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 10:25:54
Quote from: ripster;459561
Make sure you recess the stem a bit in the moogle kits or they will sit up higher than the surrounding keys (see the previous Moogle kit for details).

If I get a chance I'll take pics and measure.

And there will ONLY be one original Cherry Corp Doubleshot Red!
(Attachment) 33049[/ATTACH]

Recess the stem?  Are you talking about grinding it down?  Or is stem length something that SP can customize?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 10:35:32
Payment sent.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 27 November 2011, 14:32:53
If you want too see what will happen if you don't specify a shorter stem, just look at my moogle kit picture in post #393. It's not a pretty sight...
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Atenacius on Sun, 27 November 2011, 14:36:44
Waiting for my next paycheck on Friday, don't drop me!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 27 November 2011, 14:43:34
Interesting... Because of this malware business I can only post, but not alter them afterwards... Oh, and PAID!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 14:48:34
Quote from: Atenacius;459640
Waiting for my next paycheck on Friday, don't drop me!


No worries.  The deadline is Sunday (a week from today).
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 14:58:38
Quote from: The_Ed;459638
If you want too see what will happen if you don't specify a shorter stem, just look at my moogle kit picture in post #393. It's not a pretty sight...


Yeah, I remember seeing those pictures.  I'm typing on moogle keys right now (on a Rosewill), though, and they're not higher than the other keys (apart from the normal SP profile difference).  There's definitely not a visible gap between the key bottoms and my case as in your pics.  Your photos were taken on an actual Cherry keyboard, right?

That said, looking straight down the bottom of the moogle keys vs. Cherry 2-shots, the gap between the end of the stem and the bottom of the keycap walls is definitely greater on the Cherries.  Like maybe 2mm vs. 1mm on the moogle keys.

For reference:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31863&d=1321231389)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 15:28:57
No offense to The_Ed, but I think there is something else going on with his setup.  I have the same moogle kits and a DAS2, which is the same as his Cherry keyboard. I don't have see the same gap that he has when I put a moogle kit onto the DAS2.  From my DAS2:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31860&d=1321227963)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 15:32:35
ripster posted some relevant pictures (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22938-Filco-Majestouch-2-Camouflage-Tenkeyless-With-Geekhack-Group-Key-Buy-One-Keys&p=459654&viewfull=1#post459654) in his Camo Filco thread.  I'm not sure what to do now with the stem length.  As I said, the moogle kit looks fine on my Rosewill.  I suppose it would also look fine 1mm shorter.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 15:40:09
Wait.  I think I am wrong.  Let me take some pictures.  Since I have a Filco taken apart, I think I can take better pictures.  Be right back.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 15:55:10
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33083[/ATTACH]
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 16:04:52
From left to right: blue Alt from the last RGB group buy, Filco white Windows key, black Cherry pad-printed app key from 99hkbiz, beige Control key from the most recent Moogle Kit group buy.

If you look at the bottom of the keys, both the blue Alt and the beige Control are a tad higher than the Filco keycap and the Cherry pad-print keycap.  If you look at the top, blue Alt, beige Control, and Filco white keycaps have about the same height.

So I think it depends on what  keycaps will be next to your RGBY keycaps.  


(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=33084&d=1322430962)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: N8N on Sun, 27 November 2011, 16:13:48
yes, Filco and most non-Cherry keycaps sit higher than Cherry ones.  So if you are trying to exactly match Cherry caps, best to shorten the stem a bit.  Easiest way to figure how much is to measure the diff between the height of the top of the real Cherry cap and that of the SP cap from the last GB (either the blue Alt or one of the MK keys - they should be the same AFAIK.)

Slowly but surely we are apparently refining the design :)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 27 November 2011, 17:09:13
I'd rather it be too tall than too short, that way I can file down the stem if need be.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 18:16:08
Thanks litster.  I would assume that our RGBY kits will be paired with either moogle keys or WASD blanks on the front row (i.e., the spacebar and menu key).  The goal is not necessarily to match Cherry keys exactly, but to adapt a Cherry set for modern keyboards.

Since I think the chances of our keys being placed alongside real Cherry keys on the front row are small, I'm leaning toward not changing the standard SP stem length, since it's a known quantity. (Has any group buy ever messed with SP's default before?)  I'm not totally convinced on this yet though.

I'll put moogle Control, Alt, and Super next to WASD spacebar and Menu and see how that looks.  I'll also doublecheck how the moogle right Shift looks next to Cherry "?/".
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 18:29:05
I agree with you.  The way it is should be fine.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 18:41:39
My camera battery is dead so I don't have pictures yet, but the moogle right Shift does not look higher than the other keys on its row, on my Rosewill at least.  Its profile is different as expected, but its low end lines up with the low end of the Cherry keys.

The WASD keys look different, but again it's profile and not resting height.  Before I got my moogle kit I used WASD keys along with aggiejy's RGBs to complete the bottom row on my bedoubleshotted keyboards (a Filco, a Leopold, and a Rosewill), and I never noticed anything other than the normal profile issues.

ripster, N8N, is there a counter-argument I'm ignoring?  Can someone else with a Cherry brand keyboard confirm or refute The_Ed's height issues?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: N8N on Sun, 27 November 2011, 18:42:12
I can tell you that moogle/earlier RGB rshift is a little higher than Cherry doubleshots.  That said it hasn't bothered me enough to do anything about it yet.  Agree with too long is better than too short comment.  (not a word!)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 19:03:50
Quote from: hashbaz;459770
Can someone else with a Cherry brand keyboard confirm or refute The_Ed's height issues?

The_Ed's picture:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31863&d=1321231389)

Mine:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31860&d=1321227963)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 19:27:21
Quote from: ripster;459782
There clearly is a difference in stem length relative to the key bottom (see my earlier link).  The only question is because Signature Plastic's profile doesn't exactly match ANY other ****ing key profile you have to pick whether to go more to Filco or more to Cherry.


Oh yeah I can see the difference myself just by looking at the bottom of the keys.  My question is, does the difference matter and why?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 27 November 2011, 19:44:42
Here's an idea, how about someone measure the depth of the hole in vintage and SP keys and match them. Then they're not too low and not too high right?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 20:02:25
Still not sure I'm following what the problem is.

Here's a depth-of-fieldy pic showing that the moogle right Shift actually is seated a bit higher than the Cherry keys in its row (I was wrong about this before).

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=33119&d=1322445525)
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 20:36:35
Yes, yes, I understand the keycap geometry issue.  But I'm not sure it's a big enough problem to warrant messing with the stem length.  I guess there isn't any real risk to fixing it though.
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Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 27 November 2011, 20:49:35
Completely off-topic, but my mom needs a new caps-lock(don't ask). I was looking at wasd and noticed the custom keycaps section. Is the "R2 1x1.75" the right size and row I need for caps-lock?
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Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 27 November 2011, 20:50:27
Comparing the keys side by side, there is a slight difference in the SP and Cherry Profile

@hashbaz,
These keys were are ordering, I am aware that the Red Esc will have white text, what about the modifier keys, are they going to have white text as well?
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 20:51:10
Quote from: The_Ed;459823
Completely off-topic, but my mom needs a new caps-lock(don't ask). I was looking at wasd and noticed the custom keycaps section. Is the "R2 1x1.75" the right size and row I need for caps-lock?


Yup.
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Post by: wongster on Sun, 27 November 2011, 21:51:59
Paid!
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Post by: Reptile on Sun, 27 November 2011, 22:17:26
money sent
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 27 November 2011, 22:59:16
Quote from: wongster;459850
Paid!


Quote from: Reptile;459858
money sent


Recorded.  Thanks guys!
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Post by: DanGWanG on Sun, 27 November 2011, 23:37:27
Payment sent.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Kisakuku on Mon, 28 November 2011, 02:43:17
Paypal sent.
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Post by: dux on Mon, 28 November 2011, 03:48:45
Let us face the reality, not only the height, but also the angle of the SP modifier row and the zxcv-row (=row 4) is different (steeper) than that of the Cherry-keycaps. The asdf-row (=row 3) is absolutely the same if you ask me.
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 28 November 2011, 11:43:58
Almost half of you have paid.  That's good!
More than half of you haven't paid yet.  That's bad.

[video=youtube;r_pqnsKWlpc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_pqnsKWlpc[/video]
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 28 November 2011, 19:09:50
Bumpity boo, payment's due.
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Post by: Quarzac on Mon, 28 November 2011, 22:02:39
Paid.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Atenacius on Mon, 28 November 2011, 22:03:18
Looks like I didn't need to wait for my paycheck. I just paid
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 28 November 2011, 22:32:41
Thanks guys.
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Post by: nerfredux on Mon, 28 November 2011, 23:38:36
Paid.

Thanks, mate!
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Post by: adelek on Tue, 29 November 2011, 02:52:58
Quote from: hashbaz;459510

The second item is that I might be adjusting the colors slightly, based on intelligence from Biniaris.  I sent him my color samples and he compared them with sixty's Rebel RGBY kit.  Turns out that BDH is the blue he used, but as expected the red and green are slightly different (sixty's are RR and VCS).  sixty's yellow is YBP, which is noticeably darker and more orange than YY.  I'm not sure I like it.  When I get the samples back from Bini I'll make a final decision and let you guys know.

My current feeling is that I'll probably end up keeping our colors.


Have you decided what colors you will be using? I really like the colors from sixty's kit...
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 29 November 2011, 03:57:35
Quote from: adelek;460529
Have you decided what colors you will be using? I really like the colors from sixty's kit...

Not yet, I haven't gotten the samples back from Biniaris.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 29 November 2011, 09:21:40
Good morning everyone!  Time to send in payment for your orders!
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 29 November 2011, 10:19:23
Not paid yet :cool:
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 29 November 2011, 11:54:22
Quote from: tsangan;460686
Not paid yet :cool:


[video=youtube;GrCYX5lxVQo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrCYX5lxVQo[/video]
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 29 November 2011, 19:08:28
Bump.  Payments are slowing down...
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Post by: Atenacius on Tue, 29 November 2011, 19:26:55
That's not good, I hope no one backed out
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 30 November 2011, 03:31:17
Don't worry, I'm just waiting for a payment myself, but I'm going to pay within Sunday anyway! ;)
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 30 November 2011, 12:45:17
Bippity-bumpity-boo.  Everyone, please double-check the amount you have due in the OP and remit payment!

(http://combatblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Bippity-boppity-boo.jpg)
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Post by: demik on Wed, 30 November 2011, 19:01:08
i'll pay before sunday, i won't be a deadbeat. scouts honor!
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 30 November 2011, 19:06:31
Quote from: demik;461598
i'll pay before sunday, i won't be a deadbeat. scouts honor!


No problem. :)

Don't feel like you have to justify anything if you're waiting for some legit reason.  I'm just bumping the thread periodically with "payment is due" posts to make sure everyone sees it.
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 30 November 2011, 19:06:36
Alright people! Pay up already geeze.........
......
....
..
:whistle:
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 30 November 2011, 22:38:38
Updated the OP with the latest payments.  65% paid.
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Post by: Grond on Thu, 01 December 2011, 10:52:57
Just paid! ;)
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 01 December 2011, 11:04:53
Thank ye kindly!

(http://www.obsidianlab.com/thanks_coolidge.jpg)
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Post by: Ascaii on Thu, 01 December 2011, 12:26:19
payment sent
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Post by: reaper on Thu, 01 December 2011, 12:40:20
Yup, same here.  Money sent!  Thanks for the organizing this group buy. =)
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 01 December 2011, 12:57:04
Quote from: Ascaii;462084
payment sent


Quote from: reaper;462099
Yup, same here.  Money sent!  Thanks for the organizing this group buy. =)


Thanks guys, we're up to 70% paid!  I've PM'd everyone who hasn't paid yet to make sure they know we're collecting payments.
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Post by: Mysteric on Thu, 01 December 2011, 13:51:30
I'm not sure that I'll have the money ready for the deadline. I REALLY want the keys and don't want to drop out but my PC motherboard just broke and I had to spent the money I was going to use on these keys on that. Horrible thing is I'd have the money by like next Friday but payments are due before then :(
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Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 01 December 2011, 16:15:41
thanks hashbaz. I'm finally paid up as well!
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 01 December 2011, 16:53:45
Updated, 75% complete!
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Post by: N8N on Thu, 01 December 2011, 17:30:00
If you end up with some extra yellows, I could use a pair.  Or if it's not too late to order a whole 'nother set of RGBYs I could do that too if I have to.  I just put some Wyse keycaps on my Leopold and need something to use for the Windows keys, old school Cherry moogle kit doesn't look quite right.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 02 December 2011, 11:36:55
Bump!  25% of you still need to send payment!

(http://www.catbuttcoffee.com/_Media/chest_bump.jpg)
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Post by: Dox on Fri, 02 December 2011, 15:24:03
Paid!
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 02 December 2011, 15:55:07
Melissa says the Escape SVG might be too small to work.  I'm having her do a prototype to make sure.  It's unclear still whether this will set the schedule back or not.  I'll keep you guys posted.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 02 December 2011, 19:35:55
The bubble mailers have arrived.  I'll be addressing a couple of them every day for the next month to minimize the time between receiving the keys from SP and getting them in the mail to you.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 02 December 2011, 23:29:18
81%!
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Post by: jpm804 on Sat, 03 December 2011, 04:19:38
Sorry for the delay... Payment sent.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 03 December 2011, 04:48:14
Quote from: jpm804;463270
Sorry for the delay... Payment sent.


No problem, recorded!
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 03 December 2011, 12:53:11
Bump!  Please continue to send payment.  We're getting close to 100%!

(http://static.poponthepop.com/images/gallery/kourtney-kardashian-baby-bump-white-dress.jpg)
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Post by: wongster on Sat, 03 December 2011, 13:52:13
I had a good laugh seeing RCT's payment status.
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Post by: demik on Sat, 03 December 2011, 16:05:07
Kourtney is so hot.

But pregnant women are not sexy.

I'm sending my payment today when I get home from work.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 03 December 2011, 16:14:40
(http://www.oddballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pregnant_33.jpg)(http://www.oddballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pregnant_29.jpg)
(http://www.oddballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pregnant_30.jpg)(http://www.oddballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pregnant_08.jpg)
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Post by: demik on Sat, 03 December 2011, 17:20:27
First the lotus. Now this :(
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 03 December 2011, 17:29:48
Quote from: demik;463593
First the lotus. Now this :(


Do these images disturb you?  Maybe you have thirdtrimestaphobia...
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Post by: demik on Sat, 03 December 2011, 17:42:15
not so much disturb me like the lotus pic did but.. it's just so weird.

i know the whole miracle of life blah blah blah.. but that is just freaky.

good thing i dont ever want kids.

and, paid!
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Post by: Weapon on Sun, 04 December 2011, 01:57:09
Payment sent!
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 04 December 2011, 02:17:25
Recorded, thanks.  We're at 87%.
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Post by: tsangan on Sun, 04 December 2011, 09:42:33
At first I was trolling but then I really actually forgot :P

It's paid now lol
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 04 December 2011, 17:05:25
Only a few of you left...

(http://www.nationalfistbumpday.com/storage/obama-fist-bump.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1275366769677)
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Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 05 December 2011, 13:12:30
Quote from: hashbaz;464074
Only a few of you left...

Show Image
(http://www.nationalfistbumpday.com/storage/obama-fist-bump.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1275366769677)
Terrorist fist jab!
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 05 December 2011, 23:29:08
Quote from: hashbaz;463026
Melissa says the Escape SVG might be too small to work.  I'm having her do a prototype to make sure.  It's unclear still whether this will set the schedule back or not.  I'll keep you guys posted.


The Escape prototype is underway.  Melissa says it should only cause about a week's delay, assuming it comes out right.  That puts the finished keys arriving at my doorstep around 19 January.

A few of you still haven't paid.  With the extra delay caused by the prototype there's no need to cut things off artificially, but please get the money in ASAP.  I'll be submitting the order no later than 20 December.
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Post by: infamouskid on Tue, 06 December 2011, 09:12:53
hey i sent in my order today. am i too late?
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Post by: AlleyViper on Tue, 06 December 2011, 18:11:10
Is the redesc $2.75 break met with current payments?
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 06 December 2011, 18:14:38
Quote from: AlleyViper;465407
Is the redesc $2.75 break met with current payments?


Yes, we're good to go even if everyone who hasn't paid yet bails.
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Post by: AlleyViper on Tue, 06 December 2011, 18:24:26
Great, thanks!
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 06 December 2011, 18:32:18
Quote from: infamouskid;465142
hey i sent in my order today. am i too late?


PM'd you.
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Post by: infamouskid on Wed, 07 December 2011, 02:37:18
Quote from: hashbaz;465419
PM'd you.

pm'd back. thanks.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 08 December 2011, 22:38:22
There are just three people who haven't paid.  I've made special arrangements with Mackem (and RColinTaylor), but the other two I'm counting as no-shows as of now.  They can still be part of the buy if they send payment before I submit the order to SP (around 20 December).

So now we're just waiting for the Escape prototype to be finished, which will take about two weeks.  If it looks good, which I expect it will, Melissa tells me we should be on-track to finish key production by 19 January.  That's a Thursday, so I would expect everyone's keys to be in the mail no later than the following Tuesday (the 24th).  I've already started addressing stickers and doing customs forms.

(http://www.mindfuleffect.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/email_overload.jpg)
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 09 December 2011, 18:59:31
Quote from: hashbaz;466891
So now we're just waiting for the Escape prototype to be finished, which will take about two weeks.

Yeah so scratch that, the prototype is finished already. :D

[ATTACH=CONFIG]34426[/ATTACH]

Looks really good, though it might be off-center vertically?  Hard to tell from that angle.  I asked Melissa to send it to me.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 09 December 2011, 19:00:13
That looks really good :D
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Post by: AlleyViper on Fri, 09 December 2011, 20:36:23
I'd worry more about E height and left border distance. In the G80 L Cherry I'm currently typing (I haven't Cherry double-shots at hand, so please confirm!), the F's have about 2mm, while the SP ESC (Fentek) is about 2.5mm tall. Cherry keys also have a left border about 1-1.2mm, while the SP has ~1.5-1.75mm, being about 0,5mm offset to the right. This looks to be the case in your pic, because the correct border left border size should be smaller than the E width, not equal. But then again, this may vary in G80 H keys.
Not every F row Cherry key is completely centered. Some are about 6mm up and down, while other seem to have a ~0,5mm deviation to the bottom.
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Post by: litster on Fri, 09 December 2011, 21:55:42
Pictures attached for reference.  Too lazy to use the DSLR, iPhone crappy pics they are.

Beige DS, black DS, dye sub
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Post by: cycloverid on Sat, 10 December 2011, 00:06:56
AlleyViper:

Thanks for the analysis.  

Currently the E height should measure almost exactly 2mm tall accounting for the letter widths (If anything a hair more).  I made the left margin 1.5-1.6mm wide.  Your measurement of 1.0-1.2mm seems more reasonable comparing the two images.  I'll make this adjustment.

It is perfectly vertically centered.  Or atleast it was in the SVG file I sent.


It's too bad the image is a little blurry and in perspective.  It's hard to tell if this cutter width is dead on or a little too wimpy:/



Hashbaz:  [strike]See if we can get a better pic next week maybe.  Would be nice if the text was black instead of washed out.[/strike] Her sending it is way better.
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Post by: Atenacius on Sat, 10 December 2011, 02:17:53
I think the font may be a bit small. If you look at where the C ends in the originals, it just passes the halfway mark horizontally across the key surface. It may also be a tad narrow but that could be perspective.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 10 December 2011, 02:38:56
Quote from: cycloverid;467582
[strike]See if we can get a better pic next week maybe.  Would be nice if the text was black instead of washed out.[/strike] Her sending it is way better.

I should have the key early next week and I'll post better pics alongside a real Cherry Escape.  The width does seem a bit small.  Is there a cutter size in between this (0.15") and the letter width of the moogle keys?
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Post by: cycloverid on Sat, 10 December 2011, 02:48:37
Moogle 2 was .020"
This one was .015"

Melissa said she MIGHT be able to do a .018".  It just seems awkward that Cherry would use a size like that (and yes, I have done the conversions to mm to see if it's nice and even - it isn't).  Let's wait 'til we get the key before making too many assumptions.
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Post by: shawn o on Sat, 10 December 2011, 02:53:07
Too late to order?
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 10 December 2011, 03:02:12
Quote from: shawn o;467615
Too late to order?

Technically yes but whatevs.  PM me what you want and your address.
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Post by: infamouskid on Sat, 10 December 2011, 05:57:54
payment sent. thanks.
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Post by: Grond on Sun, 11 December 2011, 13:59:23
I think we should put the knowledge base gained with this GB and with the Moogle Kit 2 down on a dedicated wiki page. I mean infos about color codes, cutter size, stem lenght (did we even change that?), font alignement, whatever may be needed for future orders or reference.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 11 December 2011, 14:44:03
Alas I didn't ask Melissa to shorten the stem length on the prototype.  That would have been the perfect opportunity to test it out.  In fact I was going into gmail to ask her if it was too late to shorten it when I saw her email with the prototype picture, which was already a day old. :P

No idea how the prototype got finished so quickly.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 11 December 2011, 14:45:48
Quote from: Grond;468387
I think we should put the knowledge base gained with this GB and with the Moogle Kit 2 down on a dedicated wiki page. I mean infos about color codes, cutter size, stem lenght (did we even change that?), font alignement, whatever may be needed for future orders or reference.

This is a great idea.  cycloverid has a lot of knowledge and experience about cutters, etc. and how SP works.  It would be great to capture it in case he isn't the one running future moogle buys.  I can contribute the color codes from Biniaris' investigation about the various RGB sets.
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Post by: Atenacius on Sun, 11 December 2011, 17:11:13
That SVG archive would be great for all that info
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Post by: shawn o on Mon, 12 December 2011, 18:27:00
2x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping

PAYMENT SENT!
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Post by: Brendan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 12:01:16
Hey one more thing: I just got my SP order for the two red ESC's I ordered from them and found that while the height is correct, I just wished the sides came down more, essentially making the stem recessed. As it sits right now on my Poker the sides are around 2mm shorter than the other keys.

Brendan
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Post by: Grond on Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:20:28
So you confirm that the stem should be shorter, as noted before?
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Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:38:41
**** yeah! Chalk another one up for shorter stems!
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:42:56
If the stem ends up being too short I'm going to blame it on every single one of you. Longer I can fix, shorter I can't do **** about.
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Post by: demik on Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:46:28
Quote from: tsangan;469911
If the stem ends up being too short I'm going to blame it on every single one of you. Longer I can fix, shorter I can't do **** about.


Yeah, don't screw this up with short stems.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:48:08
I'm kicking myself for not remembering to ask Melissa to use a shorter stem on the prototype.  My gut is to err on the side of caution and stick with standard stems.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 December 2011, 15:39:52
Quote from: ripster;469954
GLWIC (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24707-Why-Is-The-Ripster-So-Darn-Pissed-At-Signature-Plastic-Key-Group-Buys&p=465802&viewfull=1#post465802)!


Don't post that in here, son.  Money has been collected, and a prototype made.  This buy is bona fide.

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/botanizeme/may%202011/O-Brother-Where-Art-Thou-george-clooney-15875912-423-279.jpg)


Quote
Pic courtesy of Squarebox.   He's too polite to post it here.  Luckily I'm not.  Original pic title though.
(Attachment) 34883[/ATTACH]


AVERT YOUR EYES TSANGAN !!
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Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 13 December 2011, 15:55:47
Are you telling me Squarebox has "5" cherry red esc?!
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Post by: Brendan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:24:24
I guess what I mean is this: Will the caps be identical to other, say Filco/Cherry, row 5 profile/size? Because the keys I got from SP today are shorter than the norm.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:27:45
The keys will be SP's regular DCS profile, which doesn't exactly match anything.
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Post by: Brendan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:29:32
Oh well :(, thanks!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:29:57
Quote from: The_Ed;469978
Are you telling me Squarebox has "5" cherry red esc?!

He had 6 before :eyebrows:
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:36:01
Quote from: tsangan;470004
He had 6 before :eyebrows:

DUDE shut up.  Don't tease like that, did you finally get one?
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:41:33
Something is definitely coming in the mail, that I CANNOT wait to get :dance:

No one better be camping outside my house to snipe my mail, like it happened with a EK order I had recently :rant:
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: DanGWanG on Tue, 13 December 2011, 16:56:57
Quote from: tsangan;470019
No one better be camping outside my house to snipe my mail, like it happened with a EK order I had recently :rant:

Go on...
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 17:11:30
Lets just say I don't know where my Realforce uniform 45g is atm
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Post by: squarebox on Tue, 13 December 2011, 19:11:21
Too many people stalking me...
(http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/2-panel-gasp.png)

Oh... what the heck...
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/Photoshoot/ESC-1.jpg)
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 December 2011, 19:23:38
Thats what happens when you have such a awesome item
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Post by: Atenacius on Tue, 13 December 2011, 19:24:09
Do you use any of them at all?
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Post by: squarebox on Tue, 13 December 2011, 19:39:28
Quote from: Atenacius;470106
Do you use any of them at all?

Nope. I store them in a vault.
(http://www.onekingwest.com/images/meeting-vault-01.jpg)
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Post by: demik on Tue, 13 December 2011, 20:01:13
give me 68 life times and i think i can crack that vault
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 14 December 2011, 00:39:51
What did you pay for it?!

Hopefully a "reasonable" christmas fortune.

Haven't bought myself my christmas present yet so it can't hurt to ask, but it would also take up next years birthday money too I suspect...

Edit:

Damnit, I just had to find taobaoFOCUS... There goes my money on what is "hopefully" the WNV...

If it is and I get it who will buy the board minus the red 4 from me? It's got new doubleshots...

Edit2:

****!, now I'm gonna turn into a prick like ripster if I do actually get the WNV!

And why is it now 3:38 am on a school day, and why isn't my homework done!
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 14 December 2011, 07:50:14
I tried to put down a draft for the wiki. Please excuse my lame english! I hope you guys can help me to correct and improve this draft.

---

Cherry replica keycaps

Overview

Cherry replica keycaps are costum keycaps produced by Signature Plastics and intended to match or re-create as close as possible the looks of original Cherry Keycaps. Several group buys where dedicated to this purpose. This wiki takes account of those attempts in order to create a knowledge base for future orders.

History

Cherry Corporation ceased the production of their double shot ABS keycaps in 2010. However, Cherry double shots are still appreciated and sought after by keyboard enthusiasts. It has become common to harvest Cherry doubleshots from donor keyboards and put them on modern keyboards. Due to differencese in layout and stemming, some keycaps usually prove incompatible. In particular:
- space bar;
- control;
- alt;
- right shift;
- caps lock.

Also, Cherry did not produce double shot Windows and Menu keys. Those caps were pad printed.

In order to solve this issue, GH user Moogle Stiltzkin proposed to order a dedicated kit from Signature Plastics.

The Moogle Kit

Orders for the original Moogle Kits started on January 25, 2011. The kit included:
- 2x 1.25 Alt;
- 2x 1.25 Control;
- 2x 1.25 Windows;
- 2x 1.25 Blank (Windows alternatives);
- 1x spacebar;
- 1x 1.25 Menu key;
- 1x Caps Lock, centered stem, unstepped;
- 1x 2.75 Right shift.

The supplement kit came in white on black or black on beige/grey. Arial font from Signature Plastics was used for legends.

[Color codes???]

Moogle Kit 2

Orders for an improved supplement kit started on August 23, 2011. For this order, GH user cycloverid designed costum SVGs in order to match the original Cherry font. This kit included:
- 2x 1.25 Alt;
- 2x 1.25 Control;
- 2x 1.25 Windows;
- 1x spacebar;
- 1x 1.25 Menu key;
- 1x Caps Lock, centered stem, unstepped;
- 1x 2.75 Right shift.

The supplement kit came in white on black or black on beige/grey. The legends proved to be slightly bolder than the original Cherry keycaps.

[Color codes???]

RGB kits

Cherry produced colorful modifiers that can be found on vintage Desko keyboards. The legends come in black and are dye sublimated. The original RGB is winkkeyless and includes green shifts, red controls and blue alts. The closest SP colors codes are: RA, BFP, VCS.

http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=263&hilit=rebel+rgb

The original RGB kit has been widely imitated and has become a popular style for costum keycaps.

Sixty’s Rebel RGBY

DT administratoy Sixty started a group buy for a replica RGB kit on March 2, 2011. The kit, known as “Rebel RGBY”, included:
- 1x 2.75 green right Shift;
- 1x 2.25 green left Shift (Ansi);
- 2x 1.5 red Control;
- 2x 1.5 yellow Control.
- 2x 1.5 blue Alt;
- 2x 1.0 row 4 yellow “star” keycap.

White Arial font was used for legends.

[Color codes???]

Aggiejy’s RGB

GH user Aggiejy started a group buy for another RGB kit on July 19, 2011. This kit included:
- 1x 2.75 green right Shift;
- 1x 2.25 green left Shift (Ansi);
- 2x 1.25 red Control;
- 2x 1.25 blue Alt.

White Arial legends on RA, VCM, BNF keycaps.

Hashbaz's Red Esc and RGBY Kit

GH user Hashbaz's started a group buy on November 12, 2011. The orderd used costum legends based on SVGs made by cycloverid for his Moogle Kit 2, and further refined. This was also the first RGB group buy to feature an optional left shift for Iso keyboards. The RGBY kit included:
- 1x 2.75 green right Shift;
- 1x 2.25 green left Shift (Ansi);
- 1x 1.25 green left Shift (Iso);
- 2x 1.25 red Control;
- 2x 1.25 blue Alt.
2x 1.25 yellow “diamond” key (neutral Super key).

White (WA) costum legends on RA, VCM, BNF, YY keycaps.

Hashbaz's group buy also featured a Cherry Red Esc replica. The keycap takes inspiration from the rare costum escape key Cherry produced in 2008 for the Teamwork programmer keyboard designed by the Chinese wNv e-sports team. Costum white (WA) legend on RA keycap.

Known issues

Signature Plastics keycaps from DCS family are the closest to original Cherry keycaps. However, their profile, texture, thickness and stem length do not match exactly.

References

Moogle Kit: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14698-Cherry-vintage-beige-white-101-us-ansi-Kit

Moogle Kit 2: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20435-Interest-Check-Moogle-Kit-2-Supplement-Cherry-Double-Shots

Rebel Rgb: http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=263&hilit=rebel+rgb

Aggiejy’s RGB: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20058-FINAL-Doubleshot-RGB-Set-from-SP-(Orders-Payments-Deadline)

Hashbaz's Red esc and RGBY: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23865-PROTOTYPE-DONE-Faux-Cherry-Red-ESC-RGBY-modifier-kit
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 14 December 2011, 08:10:16
The purpose of the quest is not the holy grail, it's the quest itself! :D

[ATTACH=CONFIG]34943[/ATTACH]
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 14 December 2011, 08:31:47
Right, I'll add a note about color matching under "known issues".
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Post by: Brendan on Wed, 14 December 2011, 09:12:31
Posting this here as well, for comparison purposes, this is the SP Red ESC keycap that they sell currently.

...On my Poker, enjoy:

(http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/8456/r00260942.jpg)

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2482/r0026092.jpg)

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5511/r0026090.jpg)

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6529/r0026101.jpg)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7483/r0026100.jpg)

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6161/r0026104.jpg)

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1655/r00261032.jpg)

Brendan
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Post by: squarebox on Wed, 14 December 2011, 10:04:56
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/For%20Sale/esc1.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/For%20Sale/esc2.jpg)
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Post by: Brendan on Wed, 14 December 2011, 10:10:38
SP caps right?
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Post by: squarebox on Wed, 14 December 2011, 11:24:39
Yup
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Post by: shawn o on Wed, 14 December 2011, 11:31:30
Damn, just found out they stock the red esc key in two colors.....

http://keycapsdirect.com/redesc.php
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 14 December 2011, 12:43:23
Quote from: Grond;470431
I tried to put down a draft for the wiki. Please excuse my lame english! I hope you guys can help me to correct and improve this draft.
...


Wow, thanks Grond!  I'll fill in the color info I know tonight.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 14 December 2011, 12:48:45
Quote from: ripster;470433
You guys DO realize Signature Plastics keys are SMALLER than Cherry Corp keys.  I don't mean the sideways profile.  I mean the surface area on top.  The quest to EXACTLY clone a rare AUTHENTIC Cherry Corp Red is futile.

Yes yes, I know.  Matching the real keys perfectly in every respect has never been my quest.  The main goal is to match the font as closely as possible.  The regular SP red Escape stands out like a sore thumb when paired with Cherry 2-shots.  Thus, I chose the colors I liked best and not those that best match authentic Cherry red Escapes and RGB sets.
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Post by: Atenacius on Wed, 14 December 2011, 13:58:25
Doesn't anyone think the font is a tad bit too small? The centerline for 'c' should fall within the center of the key, the prototype 'c' falls short. I guess if you're still waiting to receive the prototype I'll just curb my concerns for the time being

EDIT: Yes, like AlleyViper stated, I was referring to the horizontal midpoint/center. But that overlay is perfect, you can pretty much work that out visually
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Post by: cycloverid on Thu, 15 December 2011, 00:20:14
Atenacius: You're right about the c falling short of the center line.  My mistake?  I naturally centered the E (the largest letter).

Here's a screen-cap of the Illustrator document (Note: text has a .1mm stroke applied):

[ATTACH=CONFIG]35026[/ATTACH]

EDIT: Overlay of original cherry:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]35028[/ATTACH]

Centering looks correct - text a bit small.  Will be good to confirm this in the photos of the prototype once it arrives.  It's important to also note that I have moved the text to the left since I last gave it to hashbaz (according to  comments).
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Post by: AlleyViper on Thu, 15 December 2011, 06:43:07
I guess the previous comment was about the c centering on the horizontal, not vertical as you pointed (which seems correct on your svg). On the original key, the letter c seems to be almost perfectly centered on the horizontal (6mm vertical line).
I mean, a kerning issue pointing to not enough letterspace. But this is really awful to fine tune if you haven't access to the prototype key to compare your results, as it's impossible to judge the result solely based on the svg. Not to mention the probably different cherry vs sp surface area/slope.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 11:49:57
Melissa sent out the prototype on Monday, so I'm expecting it today or tomorrow.  We'll be able to tell then how serious these discrepancies are.
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Post by: cycloverid on Thu, 15 December 2011, 13:25:52
AlleyViper:  Doh! Yeah, the c is perfectly centered horizontally.  All that talk of vertical centered got me focused on that.

Moving letters around isn't a huge issue in my mind and is fairly easy.  The bigger concern for me is that SP only has a couple different cutters to choose from around the size we need.  Seeing the prototype will show us whether or not this cutter size is correct.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 13:52:14
Okay, so the stem length debate seems like it is probably moot.  From my emailings with Melissa:

Quote
Quick question.  Is the stem length on SP keys variable?  Could I
choose to make the stems, say, 1 mm shorter if I wanted to?

Quote
The length of the mount depends on the type of the keycap. We generally
designate the mount length from the skirt of the keycap - for example: our
4U mount in the DCS family is recessed 0.005" from the bottom skirt of the
keycap.
In order to shorten the mount, we would need to build new core pins - this
would be an added cost of around $400 per pin - can only be used for one
row, so we need at least 4 pins, unless you want to keep the same unit
pricing in which case we would need 8 pins (at $400 each). This would also
extend your lead time substantially...

Ripster, what is the source of your statement that SP can change its stem length at will?
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Post by: Atenacius on Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:15:24
That overlay pretty much says it all. The font might need to be scaled up a bit but I think the spacing will be fine. If I learned anything at architecture school, it was to nitpick and scrutinize every line.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:18:46
Quote from: ripster;471562
In the GLWIC thread.

Here:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24707-Why-Is-The-Ripster-So-Darn-Pissed-At-Signature-Plastic-Key-Group-Buys&p=465917&viewfull=1#post465917

Ah, so I can choose among preset mounts?  I wonder why she didn't mention that.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:21:45
Make it HU or preferably 6U mount. The whole reason of this faux cherry GB is to match the original short cherry caps. Why should everybody with cherry DS have to grind off part of the stem for them to match? I'm making logical sense aren't I?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:26:55
Quote from: The_Ed;471581
Make it HU or preferably 6U mount. The whole reason of this faux cherry GB is to match the original short cherry caps. Why should everybody with cherry DS have to grind off part of the stem for them to match? I'm making logical sense aren't I?

Yeah man, it makes perfect sense on paper.  But every SP key that I own has the regular mount, so I'm nervous about making untested changes.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:28:18
Order another prototype for science!

Edit:

1 with HU, 1 with 6U!
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Post by: cycloverid on Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:50:32
Would a prototype without a legend be a lot more cost effective?

Otherwise we can throw in an updated SVG for a test.

I'm thinking if it isn't very cheap though then it might start coming out of hashbaz's pocket.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 December 2011, 16:06:13
Probably just 2 blank esc keys, and whichever one fits the most level with cherry DS F-row keys is the winner. It would then also be a match for the RGB because all rows seem to be equal in height over cherry DS.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 19:26:54
Ooh, a blank prototype.  Nice idea.  Might be cheaper and faster.  I'll talk to Melissa about it.  SP is closed on Friday, unfortunately.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 December 2011, 21:49:14
All you need to buy is 2 blank esc keys - 1 with HU mount, 1 with 6U mount. Put them on a keyboard with vintage cherry doubleshot F1-F12 keys - preferably between 2 F keys. Take a flat plastic ruler and lay it across them. And then whichever of the 2 is closest - that is the mount we use. If 6U is shorter but closer, I won't blame you for picking HU. Sound good?
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 December 2011, 22:01:35
I have just learned that on taobao the number in stock is a LIE! All those WNV's in stock on taobao may or may not "really" be in stock. But if I do end up getting 1 it'll be sweet. But also depressing considering they cost about $200 USD BEFORE they get smuggled to america. WHY MUST THE KEYBOARDS CONTROL MY WALLET?!! WHY?!!
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 23:49:52
Quote from: The_Ed;471802
All you need to buy is 2 blank esc keys - 1 with HU mount, 1 with 6U mount. Put them on a keyboard with vintage cherry doubleshot F1-F12 keys - preferably between 2 F keys. Take a flat plastic ruler and lay it across them. And then whichever of the 2 is closest - that is the mount we use. If 6U is shorter but closer, I won't blame you for picking HU. Sound good?

What are you talking about?  Are there keys of varying stem heights available for immediate sale that I don't know about?
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Post by: litster on Thu, 15 December 2011, 23:51:38
Quote from: The_Ed;471807
I have just learned that on taobao the number in stock is a LIE! All those WNV's in stock on taobao may or may not "really" be in stock. But if I do end up getting 1 it'll be sweet. But also depressing considering they cost about $200 USD BEFORE they get smuggled to america. WHY MUST THE KEYBOARDS CONTROL MY WALLET?!! WHY?!!

*if* they actually have double shot red Esc key.  Good luck.  Let us know.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 December 2011, 23:56:08
The prototype did not arrive in the mail today.  I blame Santa Claus.  Hopefully it'll come tomorrow.
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 December 2011, 00:08:03
Quote from: hashbaz;471853
What are you talking about?  Are there keys of varying stem heights available for immediate sale that I don't know about?

I would think that they have some of everything somewhere. And if they don't it should only be a few dollars for 2 blank keys right?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 December 2011, 00:09:51
Quote from: The_Ed;471860
I would think that they have some of everything somewhere. And if they don't it should only be a few dollars for 2 blank keys right?

That's a huge amount of assuming.  I'll know on Monday when Melissa gets back to me.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 December 2011, 21:15:27
Prototype arrived, I'll have pics up shortly.
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Post by: bavman on Fri, 16 December 2011, 21:27:17
Quote from: hashbaz;472565
Prototype arrived, I'll have pics up shortly.

Pics or it didnt happen
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 December 2011, 22:12:54
Then it will have happened shortly. :P
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 December 2011, 22:54:25
Ok, here they are.  Looking at it in person side-by-side with a real Cherry Escape, the smallness of the font is quite noticeable, both in overall scale and line width.  The prototype does seem slightly off-center vertically.  I haven't measured to be sure, but eyeballing it it seems to be aligned with the Cherry at the top edge of the lettering, and since the prototype's legend is shorter it's not quite at full center.

At the end of the day, am I happy with this?  Yeah.  It definitely reads Cherry to me, better than the extra bold 2nd-gen moogle legends.  I'm also game for another attempt if you experts tell me there's a cutter that will look better.

I know most of the images are slightly out of focus.  Let me know if you want more pictures and I'll try to do better.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]35264[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35258[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35259[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35260[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]35261[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35262[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]35263[/ATTACH]
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 December 2011, 22:57:50
As for the stem length issue, it's not noticeably different to me.  That said, I'm willing pick up the two stem sizes that The_Ed recommended and pick the closest one to authentic Cherry, provided they are quick and cheap.
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Post by: cycloverid on Fri, 16 December 2011, 23:18:09
As long as it's within budget still, let's do another SVG.  I now have everything I need to get the lettering sized and placed correctly.


The cutter size has me worried though.  Optical illusions aside, that cutter size looks too small.  I'll ask Melissa about the .018" cutter on Monday.

Once again, the proportions look almost perfect - it's mostly just a matter of scale.
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Post by: pitashen on Fri, 16 December 2011, 23:50:36
Quote from: hashbaz;472602
As for the stem length issue, it's not noticeably different to me.  That said, I'm willing pick up the two stem sizes that The_Ed recommended and pick the closest one to authentic Cherry, provided they are quick and cheap.

As far as i can tell from the other signature plastic caps I own, signature plastic's R1 profile is pretty much identical (height wise) to the cherry ones once you mount them onto the keyboard. So the point The_Ed brought up shouldn't be an issue as far as Esc key is concerned.
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Post by: AlleyViper on Sat, 17 December 2011, 12:47:44
Quote from: cycloverid;472609

Once again, the proportions look almost perfect - it's mostly just a matter of scale.


It almost seems that the cutter followed your SVG but instead of adding thickness around the lines, it was only inwards. So the E height never reached the ~2mm after bleed.
just asking: Even so, if you scale your SVG to fulfill the target E height, and after the slight left border reduction, will it be enough to have a (h) centered "c" without messing with kerning? Btw, I guess this detail isn't much important as left alignment to match other keys, as a different surface area will throw away such small detail.

Btw, I also confirm that after a esc SP is in place (g80-3000 L), it's only as slightly raised as the prototype seems vs the double-shots. Now if the red matched the original orangish key... ;)
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 December 2011, 15:54:06
Quote from: hashbaz;472602
As for the stem length issue, it's not noticeably different to me.  That said, I'm willing pick up the two stem sizes that The_Ed recommended and pick the closest one to authentic Cherry, provided they are quick and cheap.

Melissa says that the only standard stem length available for DCS keycaps is the one we have.  6U and HU are for the DSA family.  So any adjustment will require custom setup and will cost hundreds of dollars.
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Post by: cycloverid on Mon, 19 December 2011, 17:19:20
Forgot to cc you hashbaz, but Melissa says yes on the 0.018".  So, I'll take some measurements and see if that seems like the right choice.

AlleyViper:  I mean, my SVG lettering is too small based on the overlay comparison - regardless of any other issues in the manufacturing process.




I'm just going to make all the new lettering sized to the overlay comparison image I posted - not accounting for any other observations.


.018" works out to just over .45mm, not the kind of round numbers I'd expect in manufacturing.  But when dealing with what looks best, I guess these things take lower priority.
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 December 2011, 18:17:15
Are you adjusting Ctrl/Alt/Shift as well, or just Escape?
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Post by: cycloverid on Mon, 19 December 2011, 18:26:22
Everything :(
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 December 2011, 18:31:12
:)
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Post by: agor on Thu, 22 December 2011, 05:11:15
By the way, why is no capslock included?
Unfortunately I only have 1 Moogle2 Kit :(
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Post by: Grond on Thu, 22 December 2011, 05:29:51
I wouldn't mind a "handbag" capslock in the future. I tried to order it from GB4 but apparently it has been dropped.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 22 December 2011, 06:12:29
Quote from: agor;475751
By the way, why is no capslock included?
Unfortunately I only have 1 Moogle2 Kit :(

There's no caps lock because this is not a moogle kit, it's an RGBY set.  An extra key means extra legend and production costs.  That said, all it's missing is a space bar and a caps lock...
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 22 December 2011, 06:17:13
Quote from: Grond;475757
I wouldn't mind a "handbag" capslock in the future. I tried to order it from GB4 but apparently it has been dropped.

There might be enough caps lock demand to support its own group buy..?
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Post by: N8N on Thu, 22 December 2011, 08:46:40
If we were to add capslock it would make sense to add menu and space bar as well to make a full RGBY "moogle kit..."  and then people would want the option of black or grey for caps/menu and black or beige for spacebar... might be too much scope creep for this GB.
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Post by: Atenacius on Thu, 22 December 2011, 11:35:09
Caps Lock is kind of an odd ball. I don't think it qualifies for this GB.
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Post by: Grond on Thu, 22 December 2011, 16:17:07
I didn't mean to propose it for this GB indeed. I just wouldn't mind to see it happening in a future order. And BTW, do you think it would be possible for SP to make a caps lock that's both stepped AND center stemmed?
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Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 22 December 2011, 17:06:43
Quote from: Grond;476159
I didn't mean to propose it for this GB indeed. I just wouldn't mind to see it happening in a future order. And BTW, do you think it would be possible for SP to make a caps lock that's both stepped AND center stemmed?
I'm sure it'd be a new mold, and, therefore, expensive.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 22 December 2011, 20:19:08
Ah yeah I forgot about the Menu key.  And I believe ripster has said that SP can't do stepped caps lock.  Something about blah blah blah geometry problem, GLWIC.
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Post by: pitashen on Fri, 23 December 2011, 01:13:09
Quote from: agor;475751
By the way, why is no capslock included?
Unfortunately I only have 1 Moogle2 Kit :(


If you use black keyboard you can try if NOIR/RGBY or NOIR/RGB kit is still available, they include anti-caps lock key. Might not be a moogle kit, but I would personally settle on that.
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Post by: Grond on Fri, 23 December 2011, 04:07:14
I did order a handbag capslock in noir style, but apparently it has been dropped cause I don't see it anymore in my latest pre-order bills.

Quote
And I believe ripster has said that SP can't do stepped caps lock.


Yes they can, it was made for round three, it was not center stemmed though.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 27 December 2011, 02:55:33
Just want to make sure everyone's clear on the status of the buy.  As soon as I receive updated SVGs from cycloverid I'll make a decision on whether to do another prototype or just pull the trigger and place the order.  Sorry this is taking longer than expected.  The final result will be worth it!
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Post by: tjweir on Tue, 27 December 2011, 09:15:12
Take your time, it's better to do it correctly.

Thanks!
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Post by: Reptile on Tue, 27 December 2011, 10:02:59
The escape key taking so long... I can still order more right?
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Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 27 December 2011, 20:05:35
Quote from: tjweir;478320
Take your time, it's better to do it correctly.

Thanks!
I agree. I had to look up what I ordered, but I'd rather this be done properly than have issues later.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 27 December 2011, 20:26:12
Thanks for understanding, guys. I figure those interested in duplicate Cherry keys will appreciate the time and effort required to get the legends right.

And yeah feel free to add to your orders if you want to.  I haven't been advertising it, but I'm still accepting new orders as they come in too.
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Post by: zzspectrez on Tue, 27 December 2011, 20:50:43
Add me!

4 x REDESC
1 x RGBY-ANSI

USA
standard shipping
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Post by: Kisakuku on Wed, 28 December 2011, 08:02:51
So now that the new SVGs are done, wouldn't it make sense to do another GB for the regular colored moogle kits (black and gray) and maybe Esc?
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 28 December 2011, 08:08:01
Quote from: Kisakuku;478901
So now that the new SVGs are done, wouldn't it make sense to do another GB for the regular colored moogle kits (black and gray) and maybe Esc?

More moogle kits!!!!!
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Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 28 December 2011, 08:42:52
No love for WYSE Moogle Kit?
Kits with standard SP fonts should be cheap to make. :cool:
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Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 29 December 2011, 01:06:21
Quote from: kaiserreich;478921
No love for WYSE Moogle Kit?
Kits with standard SP fonts should be cheap to make. :cool:
WYSE? Of the three sets I have, not many keys (beyond A-Z) work on a normal keyboard, those thick doubleshots are awesome. I'd probably be interested.

I mean, I'm using the capslock as backspace, and return as the numpad + on my WASD keyboard currently.
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Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 29 December 2011, 21:24:52
Any chance of still filling in?

3x REDESC
1x RGBY-ANSI
USA
standard shipping
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Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 30 December 2011, 07:58:44
Same here. If anyone backed out etc I'd like to get in.
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Post by: pitashen on Fri, 30 December 2011, 08:14:12
Quote from: Kisakuku;478901
So now that the new SVGs are done, wouldn't it make sense to do another GB for the regular colored moogle kits (black and gray) and maybe Esc?


Round 4 GB has the moogle kit option
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 30 December 2011, 13:50:35
Quote from: SmallFry;480134
Same here. If anyone backed out etc I'd like to get in.

PM me your order and shipping address.
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Post by: infamouskid on Sun, 01 January 2012, 21:09:58
hey can you update my layout on my order to USA/Std?
i don't want that cdn french layout stuff.
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Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 03 January 2012, 18:54:50
Also Hashbaz, when you do get the order in and the caps back...Please post pictures for all of us:)
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 03 January 2012, 18:59:40
Quote from: SmallFry;482733
Also Hashbaz, when you do get the order in and the caps back...Please post pictures for all of us:)

Of course. :)

I'll be placing the order this week.  I've decided against a second Esc prototype.  We'll just go with cycloverid's new iteration (modifications based on the first prototype).
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Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 03 January 2012, 19:08:40
YAY! Perfect to go with my new Click Clack and white Leopold with Clears :GIANTgrin: <-- Meh, I guess that isn't a smiley...:biggrin:
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Post by: eth0s on Wed, 04 January 2012, 20:22:21
I hope I'm not too late.  If there is still time add my order:

2x REDESC
2x RGBY-ANSI
New York, NY  USA
priority shipping

I sent you a PM as well.  Sry for msg bombing you, but I don't want to miss out.

Edit:  if accepted, I'll send you $45.50 via Paypal immediately.
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Post by: AbsurdMan on Thu, 05 January 2012, 01:09:44
Just out of curiosity, do you have an expected arrival date?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 05 January 2012, 01:17:17
A few weeks from when the order goes in.  February-ish.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 05 January 2012, 16:37:46
The order has been placed, and our moneys transferred to SP!  Melissa says to expect shipment to me by the end of the first week of February.  I've already got a good start on addressing bubble mailers, so expect prompt shipment from me to you shortly thereafter.  New orders are now CLOSED.  For reals this time.

Thanks everyone.
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Post by: HoboBob on Thu, 05 January 2012, 16:49:00
Good news and good work hashbaz!
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Post by: cycloverid on Thu, 05 January 2012, 19:22:38
Hashbaz decided to try the 0.018" cutter for the final.  This was my first instinct after seeing the prototype (using 0.015").

Oddly though, measuring the overlay I made in Illustrator gave me results of almost exactly 0.015".  At that point I left it up to Hashbaz to make the final call (whether we would do another prototype).

Ultimately I'm grateful for all the work hashbaz put into this group buy, and I think we'll all be very happy with the results.

Thanks hashbaz!
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 05 January 2012, 21:01:39
Quote from: cycloverid;484170
Thanks hashbaz!

:yo:
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Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 05 January 2012, 22:26:04
W00T! Now the waiting begins...Thank you very much:smile:
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Post by: eth0s on Fri, 06 January 2012, 02:17:36
Sweet sugar t!ts!  I made it into this group buy!  I sure do loves me some green shift keys.  Thx again hashbaz.
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Post by: Atenacius on Fri, 06 January 2012, 16:38:43
Quote from: hashbaz;484064
The order has been placed, and our moneys transferred to SP!  Melissa says to expect shipment to me by the end of the first week of February.  I've already got a good start on addressing bubble mailers, so expect prompt shipment from me to you shortly thereafter.  New orders are now CLOSED.  For reals this time.

Thanks everyone.

Well worth the wait hashbaz. Thanks for the dedication. I'm sure the keys will turn out great. Of course cycloverid, great work on the SVGs.
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Post by: lyk503 on Sat, 07 January 2012, 13:43:38
Quote from: SmallFry;484335
W00T! Now the waiting begins...Thank you very much:smile:
The waiting begins... to end!!!
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Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 07 January 2012, 14:41:20
I meant till the first week or so of February.
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Post by: AlleyViper on Wed, 11 January 2012, 10:21:13
Btw, is the chosen RA Red a little lighter than SPs usual red ESC red? As it can look quite dark on a white keyboard.
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2559/11012012071c.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/11012012071c.jpg/) Fentek Black on Red Esc (SP) on G81-1000HBP
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 11 January 2012, 11:24:34
Quote from: AlleyViper;487985
Btw, is the chosen RA Red a little lighter than SPs usual red ESC red? As it can look quite dark on a white keyboard.
Show Image
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2559/11012012071c.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/11012012071c.jpg/)
Fentek Black on Red Esc (SP) on G81-1000HBP

The standard SP red Esc keys (http://keycapsdirect.com/redesc.php) are also RA.  I don't know what color the ones Fentek sells are, but that image looks like a more saturated red to me.  *shrug*
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Post by: AlleyViper on Wed, 11 January 2012, 14:21:27
I don't have any regular SP ESC, but judging for SPs pics, the only difference in Fentek keys seems the Esc writing. Just checking if it had more yellow, as in a brighter shade of red.
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Post by: Atenacius on Wed, 18 January 2012, 23:07:49
Bah, it's gotten quiet in here. How anxious is everyone?
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 18 January 2012, 23:12:08
Melissa told me she expected to ship the keys by the end of the first week of February.  That's just over two weeks from now.  It's getting close..!
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Post by: reaper on Wed, 18 January 2012, 23:21:46
Can't wait!
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Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 19 January 2012, 22:32:45
Omnonnom...new caps...:biggrin:
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Post by: Mysteric on Fri, 20 January 2012, 07:02:19
So how much 'lower' do these keys sit compared to Filco/WASD caps?
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Post by: litster on Fri, 20 January 2012, 10:59:26
What are keys site?
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Post by: Mysteric on Fri, 20 January 2012, 11:16:06
Sorry, I meant 'sit' as in the key profile.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 20 January 2012, 11:25:52
Here is my attempt at photographing the profile difference of an SP shift against Cherry 2-shots.  The green key on the bottom row is from WASD.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]38063[/ATTACH]
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 24 January 2012, 14:06:06
I just touched base with Melissa.  The finished key caps are scheduled to ship to me on February 9th.
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Post by: Reptile on Tue, 24 January 2012, 14:08:26
Quote from: hashbaz;497792
I just touched base with Melissa.  The finished key caps are scheduled to ship to me on February 9th.

Any pics incoming?
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 24 January 2012, 14:39:55
Quote from: Reptile;497797
Any pics incoming?

Not till I receive them.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 24 January 2012, 14:42:27
I don't want to receive my novelty GB keys, there's like almost 6000 keys total :faint:
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 24 January 2012, 14:50:22
I do not envy your sorting task tsangan.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 24 January 2012, 15:07:14
Quote from: tsangan;497826
I don't want to receive my novelty GB keys, there's like almost 6000 keys total :faint:

Do those just come in one huge back that you have to sort? How about the Rd. 4. Theres no way all that just comes mixed up is there. Cause that could take months to sort.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 24 January 2012, 15:13:47
Quote from: lightsout714;497851
Do those just come in one huge back that you have to sort? How about the Rd. 4. Theres no way all that just comes mixed up is there. Cause that could take months to sort.

From what I know it never comes sorted :P
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 24 January 2012, 15:25:33
I believe the keys arrive sorted in separate bags, but, for example, my RGBY sets will have to be assembled by me.  And SP definitely has no knowledge of the individual suborders in our group buys.
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Post by: wongster on Tue, 24 January 2012, 15:56:35
Let me know if you want some help with sorting or anything else hashbaz, since I'm close and picking up my order anyway.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 24 January 2012, 15:56:57
But hopefully like a 104pc complete set would come in its own bag? If not then thats nuts.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:14:02
Quote from: lightsout714;497896
But hopefully like a 104pc complete set would come in its own bag? If not then thats nuts.

I know that the Round 3 sets at least did not come in their own bags.  I've read in various threads that you can pay SP to do the sorting for you.  Lame, I agree, but it makes sense.  Each legend/color combination is produced in a batch all at once.  Somebody has to assemble them together into sets from piles of individual keys, whether it's you or SP.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:38:46
Quote from: hashbaz;497908
I know that the Round 3 sets at least did not come in their own bags.  I've read in various threads that you can pay SP to do the sorting for you.  Lame, I agree, but it makes sense.  Each legend/color combination is produced in a batch all at once.  Somebody has to assemble them together into sets from piles of individual keys, whether it's you or SP.

Ah I see. Man that really is a serious undertaking. Is 7bit pocketing money on the group buy because he sure should be. Thats like a second job lol.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 31 January 2012, 08:51:43
So these are cherry profile? So they may look odd on a board with filco size caps.
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 31 January 2012, 09:04:44
Quote from: lightsout714;504136
So these are cherry profile? So they may look odd on a board with filco size caps.

They are 1.25x, meaning it will fit Filcos
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Post by: demik on Tue, 31 January 2012, 09:08:16
I think he means height wise
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Post by: Marclgw on Tue, 31 January 2012, 09:14:08
No more orders i assume?
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 31 January 2012, 09:14:22
Yah height wise. Because when I put the alpha numeric doubleshots on a filco I didn't like how the modifiers were raised up compared to the rest of the keys (without a moogle.) Maybe it would be better with these since it would be opposite.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 31 January 2012, 12:16:23
Quote from: lightsout714;504136
So these are cherry profile? So they may look odd on a board with filco size caps.


Quote from: lightsout714;504152
Yah height wise. Because when I put the alpha numeric doubleshots on a filco I didn't like how the modifiers were raised up compared to the rest of the keys (without a moogle.) Maybe it would be better with these since it would be opposite.


They are SP profile.  Not exactly Cherry, not exactly Filco.  SP-profile modifiers are more sharply angled than Cherry keys.  It's not very noticeable looking from above, but if you look at your keyboard edge-on you will definitely notice that the shifts are higher than the other keys on that row.  Ripster has some pictures illustrating SP profile in his GLWIC thread.  Here is my attempt at photographing an SP shift against Cherry keys.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]39120[/ATTACH]
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 31 January 2012, 12:18:11
Quote from: Marclgw;504151
No more orders i assume?

Not now.  There will be some extras available after I ship the initial orders.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 31 January 2012, 12:20:58
Quote from: hashbaz;504301
They are SP profile.  Not exactly Cherry, not exactly Filco.  SP-profile modifiers are more sharply angled than Cherry keys.  It's not very noticeable looking from above, but if you look at your keyboard edge-on you will definitely notice that the shifts are higher than the other keys on that row.  Ripster has some pictures illustrating SP profile in his GLWIC thread.  Here is my attempt at photographing an SP shift against Cherry keys.

(Attachment) 39120[/ATTACH]
Thanks for that.
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Post by: 500_pts on Tue, 31 January 2012, 12:24:07
are we able to put our name down on some extras? because i would love to :)
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 31 January 2012, 12:32:41
Quote from: 500_pts;504311
are we able to put our name down on some extras? because i would love to :)

I tried recently but he said there was more supply then demand so no need. Maybe thats changed?
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 31 January 2012, 12:38:49
Yeah I'm not taking pre-orders for the extras.  I'll put up a thread for them after I get the original orders squared away.
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Post by: wongster on Wed, 01 February 2012, 02:25:11
Man, I'm excited for these keys. Maybe it's because of the nostalgic RGBY color scheme, or perhaps just the thought of getting a nice red escape finally.
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Post by: tjweir on Tue, 07 February 2012, 08:14:28
We're close!  

Excited for these keys.

Thanks again, hashbaz.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 09:16:23
Yup, they should ship to me on Thursday!
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Post by: Reptile on Tue, 07 February 2012, 10:51:57
Quote from: hashbaz;508134
Yup, they should ship to me on Thursday!

Lots of pictures please ;-)

Also if they look good we need moogle buy asap. r4 prices are insane for white
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 07 February 2012, 10:55:56
Quote from: Reptile;508232
Lots of pictures please ;-)

Also if they look good we need moogle buy asap. r4 prices are insane for white

We all need a moogle kit GB where the GB actually ends.......
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Post by: Reptile on Tue, 07 February 2012, 11:10:00
Quote from: ripster;508235
GBs start.  They never end.  Witness Group Key Buy Three and my LOD keys.

Not if I run it :blabla:
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 11:37:52
My plan is to start up a third round moogle buy soon after I ship the RGBY orders.  Hopefully the new Ctrl/Alt/Shift legends will look good enough not to require adjustment.  Then we'll just need new legends for Caps Lock, Win, and Menu.  Some people have been agitating for including Tab, Enter, and Backspace too, but that seems like overkill to me.
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Post by: rainb1ood on Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:21:12
Just curious if this third moogle GB will offer white/beige/black/etc ?
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:36:27
Quote from: rainb1ood;508312
Just curious if this third moogle GB will offer white/beige/black/etc ?

The plan is for both light and dark sets, yeah.
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Post by: demik on Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:44:31
Quote from: hashbaz;508283
My plan is to start up a third round moogle buy soon after I ship the RGBY orders.  Hopefully the new Ctrl/Alt/Shift legends will look good enough not to require adjustment.  Then we'll just need new legends for Caps Lock, Win, and Menu.  Some people have been agitating for including Tab, Enter, and Backspace too, but that seems like overkill to me.
I think next moogle kit should include both shifts instead of just right shift. Everything else is over kill (enter, tab, backspace)
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:48:26
Works for me.  Again, hopefully the left shift legend from this buy won't need adjustment.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:57:14
Quote from: demik;508338
I think next moogle kit should include both shifts instead of just right shift. Everything else is over kill (enter, tab, backspace)
Don't you find it odd that your enter/tab/backspace feels different then your other modifiers and also they look different too?

I dunno maybe it's just me then :P

Definitely a left shift though.

We need Dolch colourway too hashbaz, you promised me!!!!!
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Post by: byFd on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:01:50
may i ask why left shift? the one from my white ansi cherry doubleshots fits my filco :D
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:02:34
Quote from: tsangan;508363
We need Dolch colourway too hashbaz, you promised me!!!!!

Oh snap, that's right.  I'm happy to include Dolch colors, but no promises on the price of course if there's not a ton of demand...
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Post by: Kisakuku on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:03:01
Quote from: byFd;508372
may i ask why left shift? the one from my white ansi cherry doubleshots fits my filco :D

So it matches the right shift.

Also, I support the Dolch moogle.
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Post by: byFd on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:05:28
huh? my right shift fits too, is my set different then the others? anyway, need a moogle for ctrl alt and whatever xD
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:06:09
Quote from: byFd;508372
may i ask why left shift? the one from my white ansi cherry doubleshots fits my filco :D
To match the other shift, and also some people only have RGB Cherry sets

Quote from: hashbaz;508374
Oh snap, that's right.  I'm happy to include Dolch colors, but no promises on the price of course if there's not a ton of demand...
There is tons of demand
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:06:26
Since there are some moogle customers here, let me ask a question.  Is doing a dedicated moogle buy so close to R4's (presumed?) end a **** move?
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:07:06
Quote from: tsangan;508382
There is tons of demand

Really?  My impression is that there aren't a ton of Dolch owners.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:07:50
Quote from: byFd;508379
huh? my right shift fits too, is my set different then the others? anyway, need a moogle for ctrl alt and whatever xD

Yours does, but quite a few people have double shots from G81-1800 boards with a short right shift.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:08:48
Quote from: hashbaz;508386
Since there are some moogle customers here, let me ask a question.  Is doing a dedicated moogle buy so close to R4's (presumed?) end a **** move?

R4 will never close, whenever it's close to closing 7Bit adds new stuff, then everything gets more expensive and then more complaining, then 7Bit adds more stuff, rinse and repeat.

I want my moogle kits before 2014 please

Quote from: hashbaz;508387
Really?  My impression is that there aren't a ton of Dolch owners.
Black DS people can use Dolch moogle too, 2 tone is in!
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Post by: demik on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:19:08
What we really need is a wyse moogle kit. Shouldn't be too much since it's sp's font
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Post by: byFd on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:23:42
ah tanks for the clarifications.
also about the Round 4 thing, i would get in touch with 7bit and check how many buyers for moogle sets there are. i assume that you can take them over if you do a dedicated moogle buy. less stress for 7bit i suppose.
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Post by: demik on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:23:50
Quote from: tsangan;508363
Don't you find it odd that your enter/tab/backspace feels different then your other modifiers and also they look different too?

I dunno maybe it's just me then :P

Definitely a left shift though.

We need Dolch colourway too hashbaz, you promised me!!!!!


Honestly, it does. But I don't use them enough to justify spending cash for them.

Shifts, on the other hand, get used a lot.

Either way, I'm buying next moogle kit.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:26:13
Quote from: demik;508405
What we really need is a wyse moogle kit. Shouldn't be too much since it's sp's font

Yeah this should be cheap
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 13:33:54
I would include a Wyse version, but it would complicate pricing.  Might be better off as its own buy.
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Post by: jwaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 15:24:22
YES, do the moogle kit! Dolch/ Black/ White!!! and Cycloverid legends yah?
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 07 February 2012, 15:32:44
Quote from: hashbaz;508386
Since there are some moogle customers here, let me ask a question.  Is doing a dedicated moogle buy so close to R4's (presumed?) end a **** move?

I would say no.  Rd4 is about sets mostly. Theres a huge demand for moogles. But very few people want to pay 50 bucks for them. Any ideas on pricing? Should be similar to the rgb set no? Maybe a little more.
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Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 07 February 2012, 16:14:23
Quote from: demik;508405
What we really need is a wyse moogle kit. Shouldn't be too much since it's sp's font

+1 WYSE moogle kit please! :)
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Post by: bavman on Tue, 07 February 2012, 17:00:44
I'm in for a wyse kit too
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Post by: DanGWanG on Tue, 07 February 2012, 17:07:59
+1 dolch moogle
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Post by: Reptile on Tue, 07 February 2012, 19:03:41
Quote from: hashbaz;508420
I would include a Wyse version, but it would complicate pricing.  Might be better off as its own buy.

Would it really complicate it? I mean I think one group with the 4 different types would be best.

CHERRYBLACK
CHERRYWHITE
CHERRYDOLCH
CHERRYWYSE

I know I would get all 4 :-)
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 07 February 2012, 19:10:47
Quote from: Reptile;508716
Would it really complicate it? I mean I think one group with the 4 different types would be best.

CHERRYBLACK
CHERRYWHITE
CHERRYDOLCH
CHERRYWYSE

I know I would get all 4 :-)
Complicates it just because it's different font and whatnot where the all 3 Cherry would be the same font

I think it should have it's own GB also.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 19:35:10
I was thinking mainly of spreading the cost of new legends across the Cherry/Dolch kits but not the Wyse kits.  It's not that much work, I suppose.
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Post by: litster on Tue, 07 February 2012, 19:39:02
This keyboard needs more CHERRYWYSE moogle kit.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=39607&d=1322973565)
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 07 February 2012, 19:41:15
Quote from: Reptile;508716

I know I would get all 4 :-)

Dang! Must be nice :)
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Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 07 February 2012, 22:24:27
I have three WYSE sets, I'd be in for 1-2 WYSE moogle kits.

'cause WYSE is the best. You might also want to add an option for the ever-popular WYSE arrows, but that might be more suitable if the WYSE is it's own GB.
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Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 07 February 2012, 22:36:01
Quote from: litster;508763
This keyboard needs more CHERRYWYSE moogle kit.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=39607&d=1322973565)

Do we know what color gray & blue would be for the WYSE moogle kit? If we do I could run that one separate if that makes it easier for the other 3 using the new legends
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 07 February 2012, 22:56:29
Quote from: inlikeflynn;508891
Do we know what color gray & blue would be for the WYSE moogle kit? If we do I could run that one separate if that makes it easier for the other 3 using the new legends

Dunno, but I have a set of ABS color samples we can use to figure out the closest match if needs be.
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Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 07 February 2012, 23:49:15
Quote from: hashbaz;508916
Dunno, but I have a set of ABS color samples we can use to figure out the closest match if needs be.
I'd be happy to mail you some of my spare WYSE keys if you'd like to colour match.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 08 February 2012, 00:02:32
Quote from: dorkvader;508957
I'd be happy to mail you some of my spare WYSE keys if you'd like to colour match.

Ha, I forgot that I actually have a Wyse set.  They're just so brittle that I haven't bothered to put them on a keyboard. :-/
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Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 08 February 2012, 04:17:28
Quote from: litster;508763
This keyboard needs more CHERRYWYSE moogle kit.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=39607&d=1322973565)

Would prefer a 1.5x modifier set too.
Wyse front row are not usable on other keyboards.
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Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 08 February 2012, 07:46:52
Quote from: hashbaz;508963
Ha, I forgot that I actually have a Wyse set.  They're just so brittle that I haven't bothered to put them on a keyboard. :-/
Hah. My thick set isn't brittle at all (I suppose 'cause they're thick) and my thin sets are too new to be brittel (Except the spacebar, but it's 10x)
Quote from: kaiserreich;509081
Would prefer a 1.5x modifier set too.
Wyse front row are not usable on other keyboards.
I used the front-row capslock key as backspace for several months.

One point about WYSE: If anyone harvested from the full-size boards, then they're okay with shift, backspace, etc. But all the terminal 'boards I have are smaller, and the right shift, backspace, etc are too small. Would there be a possibility for an "addon kit" including this, or would I be out in the cold with no shift or backspace?
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 08 February 2012, 10:27:13
Quote from: dorkvader;509147
Hah. My thick set isn't brittle at all (I suppose 'cause they're thick) and my thin sets are too new to be brittel (Except the spacebar, but it's 10x)

I used the front-row capslock key as backspace for several months.

One point about WYSE: If anyone harvested from the full-size boards, then they're okay with shift, backspace, etc. But all the terminal 'boards I have are smaller, and the right shift, backspace, etc are too small. Would there be a possibility for an "addon kit" including this, or would I be out in the cold with no shift or backspace?
Just make it one big kit so everything matches :)
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Post by: litster on Wed, 08 February 2012, 10:56:34
dorkvador is correct.  The keys in my picture are from 2 sets of caps.  The alpha-numeric keycaps are thick from non-full size Wyse, the other keys are thin from full size Wyse.  They feel very solid to type on.  Notice the ~` key is shorter because that key was on a different row on the non-full size Wyse keyboard.
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Post by: Quarzac on Wed, 08 February 2012, 17:00:17
Hey, I talked to Hashbaz, and I'm going to run the WYSE moogle buy and he's going to run the others. I'll get started on that as soon as possible. If someone could give me a SP friendly list of the necessary keys, I'll get things rolling on it. Let's say one list with just the mods and another with the proposed "addon kit". I'll get quotes and decide what's best from there.
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Post by: demik on Wed, 08 February 2012, 17:04:10
I would need an "add on" kit as well since both my sets came from terminal boards.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 08 February 2012, 22:47:09
I'm not old enough to have even seen a wyse board. I only see cherry POS here in Minnesota. And the businesses throw them out when they get dirty... Dumbasses... Then they replace them with cheapo ****astic rubber domes!

My dad's work threw out a bunch of boards with clears!... I only found out after the fact.
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Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 09 February 2012, 07:34:10
They still have a working WYSE 30 terminal and keyboard (Somehow made portable with a deep-cycle marine lead acid battery) at the public auction. The keycaps are very worn.

I've only once seen a cherry keyboard, and that was on a POS machine at an autozone, I believe.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 10:47:50
If all has gone according to plan, the keys will be finished and in the mail to me by today.  I'll email Melissa at 3:00 PST or so if I haven't heard from her by then. :)
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Post by: wongster on Thu, 09 February 2012, 11:26:45
Woohoo!
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Post by: reaper on Thu, 09 February 2012, 12:13:37
Can't wait..  Oh wait, I'm in this group buy, right?  lol  With so many group buys, I'm not even sure which one I'm in anymore. =P
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 13:33:46
Okay good news and bad news.  The keys have shipped!  They shipped early, in fact, some time last week.

The bad news is I had them sent to work, and I have been out sick for the past couple of days.  So they could be sitting at my desk right now with no one to love and photograph and sort them.  I might make it back to work tomorrow, or I might not. :-/

There's more good news though.  Melissa is going to take some pictures and send them to me, so we should know how they look by the end of today.
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Post by: tsangan on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:26:13
Quote from: hashbaz;510349
Okay good news and bad news.  The keys have shipped!  They shipped early, in fact, some time last week.

The bad news is I had them sent to work, and I have been out sick for the past couple of days.  So they could be sitting at my desk right now with no one to love and photograph and sort them.  I might make it back to work tomorrow, or I might not. :-/

There's more good news though.  Melissa is going to take some pictures and send them to me, so we should know how they look by the end of today.
Have you seen Melissa's photography skill? :rofl:
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Post by: Reptile on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:26:51
Quote from: reaper;510283
Can't wait..  Oh wait, I'm in this group buy, right?  lol  With so many group buys, I'm not even sure which one I'm in anymore. =P

I know there is a lot that shipped at the same time :D


I think the pictures will hold us over. We like pictures
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:29:16
Quote from: Reptile;510395
I know there is a lot that shipped at the same time :D


I think the pictures will hold us over. We like pictures

I agree, I'm not even in on this but if they look like I think I hope to snag an extra set.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:35:14
Quote from: tsangan;510393
Have you seen Melissa's photography skill? :rofl:

Can't be worse than mine.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:45:22
Quote from: tsangan;510393
Have you seen Melissa's photography skill? :rofl:


It's not art, but it works for me.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]39914[/ATTACH]
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Post by: tsangan on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:46:53
That's a lot better then other photo's I've seen her take :P
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Post by: byFd on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:52:37
i think i'll get some too if there are leftovers :)
need rgb kit anyways, not sure for what, but i need it :)
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:54:43
Thats from the first page no? Still waiting on some current pics?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 15:05:35
Quote from: lightsout714;510411
Thats from the first page no? Still waiting on some current pics?

Right.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 09 February 2012, 19:06:05
So did she flake on the pic? I think they are closed now.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 19:15:48
Seems like it.  It's 5:15 PM on the west coast. :-/

Fear not though.  If what she said is true about the keys shipping out last week, they should be here by tomorrow.  Even if I don't go in I'll make a trip down to work to get them regardless so I can sort and bag over the weekend.  Pics tomorrow!
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 09 February 2012, 19:17:55
Nice!
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 20:25:03
Ha, so I went into Paypal and found the shipping info attached to the order transaction.  I guess that's why Melissa didn't bother to email me when the keys shipped.  Anyway, they were delivered to my work yesterday.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 09 February 2012, 20:27:15
February, the month of keycaps.

Novelty Keycaps = shipping
NyanCat/Triforce = shipping
Faux Cherry ESC/RGBY = almost shipping
SP CRAPbags = shipped

what else am i missing
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 09 February 2012, 20:36:53
Quote from: demik;510674
February, the month of keycaps.

Novelty Keycaps = shipping
NyanCat/Triforce = shipping
Faux Cherry ESC/RGBY = almost shipping
SP CRAPbags = shipped

what else am i missing
Dyesub PBT's :D  Not from sp though
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Post by: demik on Thu, 09 February 2012, 20:52:56
ah yes, forgot the dyesub pbts
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 09 February 2012, 20:55:14
Would you say you are receiving ... a plethora of plastics this month?
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Post by: demik on Thu, 09 February 2012, 21:01:49
im going to need more storage boxes
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 15:36:59
Pics incoming, guys. ;)
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Post by: demik on Fri, 10 February 2012, 15:44:27
That blue is awesome!
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Post by: cycloverid on Fri, 10 February 2012, 16:42:18
Really hope I didn't mess anything up... can't wait though!
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 16:52:23
The keys are here!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40084[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40081[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40082[/ATTACH]


[/hr]

Let's get the bad stuff out of the way.  Notice that they messed up the ISO shift.  I was very clear in my email that the 1.25x shift was to have the arrow but no text.  More fodder for ripster's hate thread, I'm afraid.  I'm sure this won't be a problem to get fixed, but it'll cause delays for the ISO orderers.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40083[/ATTACH]

I'm just gonna say it.  I chose the wrong yellow.  I love the brightness in terms of how it plays with the other colors, but the white diamond doesn't read well.  There's just not enough contrast.  That, and the diamond looks a bit off-center to me ...  anyone else?  Here's the original from R3:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40085[/ATTACH]

That said, the blue is delicious.  So glad I held out for the right blue.


[/hr]

Okay, now the good stuff.  The legends turned out fantastic.  Still a tiny bit too small and too narrow, I think, but they read Cherry next to vintage keys.  I'm very, very pleased with how they turned out.  Thanks again cycloverid!

The 1.25x Ctrl/Alt are Cherry pad printed, and the 1x and 1.5x are Cherry doubleshot.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40086[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40087[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40088[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40089[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40090[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40091[/ATTACH]

They are a big improvement over the last round of moogle keys.  IMO we don't need to adjust them for moogle R3.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40092[/ATTACH]

For kicks, here they are against aggiejy's RGB set, which used SP's standard font, and all together in one image.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40093[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40094[/ATTACH]


[/hr]

How do they look on keyboards, you ask?  Frickin' fantastic.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40102[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40103[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40104[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40095[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40096[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40097[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40098[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40099[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40100[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40101[/ATTACH]


[/hr]

I'll be working on packaging these up this weekend.  I do need to know how the ISO people feel about the arrowless left shift, and whether the off-center diamond is worth hassling over.  Personally, I would like to see it fixed and maybe go with a different yellow.

Thanks for your patience, everyone.  This has been a long group buy, but I think the end product looks amazing!
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 16:52:49
Quote from: cycloverid;511261
Really hope I didn't mess anything up... can't wait though!

Dude, you nailed it.  Bravo.
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Post by: rainb1ood on Fri, 10 February 2012, 16:58:58
Thanks hashbaz for organizing this! They're awesome
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Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 10 February 2012, 17:04:18
Looking good. Can't wait to get mine :)
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Post by: wongster on Fri, 10 February 2012, 17:14:00
The diamond looks perhaps just a smidge off center to the right a little bit, but I don't know if that's an illusion being played on my eyes. If SP will correct their mistake, then I vote to have them make it right.

Regardless of imperfections, those look awesome. I'm really diggin' the blue. Well done to you and cycloverid! :)
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 10 February 2012, 17:24:53
The font looks really good, very nice work cycloverid

R3 moogle kit would not need any adjustments like you said hashbaz, which is great to hear.
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Post by: cycloverid on Fri, 10 February 2012, 17:56:24
It's very damn close, a little thin, but very close.

Only frustrating that there isn't a perfect cutter.  Can't wait to get mine! Thanks hashbaz :)


EDIT:  Maybe the letter spacing has a little to do with my perception of the width as well.  Unfortunately, this is exactly as much width between letters are SP said they'd allow.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:09:40
It's not you it's SP :rofl:

I'm going to start chanting more moogle kits soon
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Post by: Wraul on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:10:12
Looks really nice.
The font is definitely close enough to not look out of place next to cherry keys.
Love that blue.

I agree with you about the yellow.
Also I don't mind waiting longer to get ISO arrow shift.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:12:13
I think we found the perfect RGB, need to fix that yellow for next time
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:24:16
Yeah I am in love with the blue.  The off-center diamond is quite noticeable in person.  I'd like to see it redone, though that will introduce more delays.  Hopefully we can get a different yellow.

Can someone with a diamond key from R3 verify that it is not off-center?
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:24:32
Damn, those RGB modifiers look great! Any chance someone has an extra set to sell?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:30:37
Quote from: metafour;511340
Damn, those RGB modifiers look great! Any chance someone has an extra set to sell?

There will be extras for sale after the initial orders ship.  It remains to be seen though whether we will redo the off-center diamond legend.
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Post by: demik on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:36:48
Quote from: hashbaz;511339
Yeah I am in love with the blue.  The off-center diamond is quite noticeable in person.  I'd like to see it redone, though that will introduce more delays.  Hopefully we can get a different yellow.

Can someone with a diamond key from R3 verify that it is not off-center?

i have a diamond from the retro set, that work?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:43:47
Does it look like this?  This is the image I sent to Melissa and said "make it look like that".  Doesn't look off-center to me.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40115[/ATTACH]

The new ones, on the other hand...

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40116[/ATTACH]
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Post by: demik on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:46:28
actually it's a 1x key, not 1.25x
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:48:59
Well, that's ripster's image ... hopefully he'll see this soon and tell us for sure whether it's centered.  Though I'm already sure it is.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:50:10
If you get any sort of list going for extras I want in please. These are great.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:50:58
The more I stare at the yellow one, the more centred it looks


Quote from: lightsout714;511363
If you get any sort of list going for extras I want in please. These are great.

Quote from: hashbaz;511343
There will be extras for sale after the initial orders ship.  It remains to be seen though whether we will redo the off-center diamond legend.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 10 February 2012, 18:51:33
The more I stare at the yellow one, the more centred it looks


Quote from: lightsout714;511363
If you get any sort of list going for extras I want in please. These are great.

Quote from: hashbaz;511343
There will be extras for sale after the initial orders ship.  It remains to be seen though whether we will redo the off-center diamond legend.
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Post by: cycloverid on Fri, 10 February 2012, 19:03:48
Quote from: tsangan;511332
It's not you it's SP :rofl:

I'm going to start chanting more moogle kits soon

Maybe the future of Cherry doubleshots is a full SP conversion :shocked:  (the price on that might be astronomical)

For now these Moogle Kits are more than good enough
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Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 10 February 2012, 19:04:57
Is it just me and my monitor or the green seemed a tad blue-ish compared to real RGBs?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 19:09:21
The diamond legend is about a millimeter off by my measurement.
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Post by: demik on Fri, 10 February 2012, 19:40:00
Quote from: cycloverid;511373
Maybe the future of Cherry doubleshots is a full SP conversion :shocked:  (the price on that might be astronomical)

For now these Moogle Kits are more than good enough

They are trying to do that with a dolch set
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Post by: AlleyViper on Fri, 10 February 2012, 21:10:28
Looking great, great job cycloverid! Finally I've understood what was exactly one of the "kerning problems" I was pointing earlier, which isn't any so to speak, but an a issue in the way the curved slope affects legend making. The reason the c still seems a bit to the left (legend narrower) when compared to an original Cherry key, despite your perfectly nailed line width, shape, kerning and size, seems to origin in a shortened width E on SPs part. So to speak, due to the slope, it's width should have been measured not in a perfect top view but accounting a bit of extra width as the SP keys are a bit more cylindrical on the edge.
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Post by: Mysteric on Fri, 10 February 2012, 21:26:18
Shame about the ISO shift, real silly mistake of SP to make.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 10 February 2012, 21:28:33
Yup, I just sent Melissa an email politely requesting a re-run of the 1.25x Shift and Win keys.  We'll see what she says on Monday...
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Post by: Grond on Sat, 11 February 2012, 13:47:31
Stupid SP! How could they get the ISO shift wrong!? :Cry:
I hope we can have it fixed. Looks great otherwise! Thanks for the great job, hashbaz!
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Post by: demik on Sat, 11 February 2012, 14:21:28
So how does this work? Do we get our keycaps then get the replacements after they are done? Or do we wait until replacements are done to get everything together?
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 14:25:42
I think that will depend on how long replacements will take.  The extra shipping is the main issue.  If it was a few people I'd just eat the cost.  But it's every single order. :-|
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 14:56:05
I think the best thing to do is let each of you decide whether you care about replacements or not, and whether you want to wait.  I'll continue packaging the keys up and start mass PMing once I know the details of the replacements.  If I don't hear back within a week, I'll just send out the keys.  If you already know what you want to do, feel free to preemptively PM me. :)
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Post by: rainb1ood on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:00:18
Quote from: hashbaz;511875
I think the best thing to do is let each of you decide whether you care about replacements or not, and whether you want to wait.  I'll continue packaging the keys up and start mass PMing once I know the details of the replacements.  If I don't hear back within a week, I'll just send out the keys.  If you already know what you want to do, feel free to preemptively PM me. :)

These are only for the ISO people right?
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Post by: Grond on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:06:22
I do care about replacements and I'm willing to wait. :)
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:12:57
Quote from: rainb1ood;511877
These are only for the ISO people right?


I also asked Melissa to replace the off-center diamond Win keys.  The problem is subtle, and I half expect her to argue with me about it.  But I noticed it immediately when I saw the keys in person.  I'll try to get a good image of just the diamond key.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:33:15
What do you guys think?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40174[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40175[/ATTACH]
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Post by: mkawa on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:46:35
quite like these. sad i missed them. i will happily buy your set if you don't want them or there are extra
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Post by: reaper on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:48:35
That's cool with me since I'm not a perfectionist plus I hate to wait longer. lol


Sent from iPhone
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Post by: mkawa on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:52:39
i'll also take seconds if there are "off-center" ones that people don't want.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:59:13
Lol I can't even really tell on that diamond key.
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Post by: rainb1ood on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:00:49
Im fine with the off center diamond :)
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Post by: Grond on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:04:51
I could live with the off center diamond, but the ISO left shift is exactly opposite to what we asked. So if that will be remade, I'd take the chance to remake the diamond too, and in a stronger shade of yellow.
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Post by: wongster on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:05:30
It's subtle, but that picture makes it look like it's definitely off center. Again, if SP will replace it, make 'em do it, but if it's a hassle, I'm personally fine with it.

Let us know when local folks can pick up please :)
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Post by: demik on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:10:06
It looks a little to the right
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:36:24
Quote from: lightsout714;511935
Lol I can't even really tell on that diamond key.

Quote from: rainb1ood;511936
Im fine with the off center diamond :)

Quote from: wongster;511943
It's subtle, but that picture makes it look like it's definitely off center. Again, if SP will replace it, make 'em do it, but if it's a hassle, I'm personally fine with it.

Quote from: demik;511951
It looks a little to the right

Yeah, it's subtle but noticeable, especially from a 45-ish degree angle.  Like I said, I noticed it within 5 minutes.  I could live with it, but I do consider it an error so I'm going to try and get it fixed.  And I'll try for a shade of yellow that works better with the white legend.  Probably YBP from sixty's Rebel kits.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:36:24
Quote from: demik;511951
It looks a little to the right

Yah I guess a hair.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:39:17
Quote from: wongster;511943
Let us know when local folks can pick up please :)

Local people, just drop me a PM to arrange a pickup time.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:45:31
Quote from: hashbaz;511971
Local people, just drop me a PM to arrange a pickup time.  Kisakuku and I are getting together on Tuesday at around noon.  Might be fun to try to coordinate.

I feel outed.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:46:35
Quote from: Kisakuku;511977
I feel outed.

Whoa, sorry.  Edited out. :(
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Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:51:39
Quote from: hashbaz;511980
Whoa, sorry.  Edited out. :(

Sorry, forgot the :peep:
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Post by: demik on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:55:02
You can ship mine. If you get replacements I'll pay for shipping since I plan on ordering an ISO shift anyway
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Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 11 February 2012, 16:58:07
Wile I prefer perfection on my meta-key, I'm cool with it being off center. If SP wants to remake them properly, I'll wait, but if it's going to be a hassle, It's not worth it. B'sides, I fully intend on replacing it with a glider key if R4 ever finishes.

I ordered a lot more keys than I thought. So exciting!
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Post by: reaper on Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:08:34
Quote from: demik;511990
You can ship mine. If you get replacements I'll pay for shipping since I plan on ordering an ISO shift anyway

Yup, same here.
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Post by: tsangan on Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:26:00
Quote from: demik;511990
You can ship mine. If you get replacements I'll pay for shipping since I plan on ordering an ISO shift anyway

Quote from: reaper;511999
Yup, same here.
I'm the same with the rest of the shopaholic bunch
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Post by: Brendan on Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:27:57
Can't wait for my Esc key, my first groub buy on GH! Thanks hashbaz!
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:29:25
Quote from: Brendan;512014
Can't wait for my Esc key, my first groub buy on GH! Thanks hashbaz!

:yo:
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Post by: mkawa on Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:55:34
Quote from: demik;511951
It looks a little to the right
personally, i think it really brings the key together
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Post by: dfxdx on Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:56:00
Any chance you can add new orders for entire kits while you are at it? Or just wait for extras after re-run dispatch?
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 11 February 2012, 18:51:41
Quote from: dfxdx;512036
Any chance you can add new orders for entire kits while you are at it? Or just wait for extras after re-run dispatch?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.  There won't be any new full kits produced -- just the two keys with issues.  There are some extras from the first run (which will get corrected keys of course), but they won't be available until I take care of the original orders.
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Post by: mkawa on Sat, 11 February 2012, 18:53:15
Quote
There are some extras from the first run (which will get corrected keys of course),
want!!! (also, don't care about corrections)
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 12 February 2012, 01:54:25
Okay, all priority and domestic orders are bagged, addressed, and double-checked.  I'll work on the international orders tomorrow.
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Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 12 February 2012, 08:04:53
Can't wait
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Post by: agor on Sun, 12 February 2012, 08:57:11
I personally would not care about the Diamond Key, but since I have an ISO Shift aswell I would like to have a replacement for this and I am willing to wait.
Don't even have a keyboard for this yet :whip:


Thank you both for organizing this, the keys look wonderful!
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Post by: gridlock on Sun, 12 February 2012, 17:01:00
Damn the keys look amazing! Anyone got extra RGBY sets?
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 12 February 2012, 17:30:43
Quote from: gridlock;512733
Damn the keys look amazing! Anyone got extra RGBY sets?

I do.  They'll be up for sale after the initial orders ship.
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Post by: byFd on Sun, 12 February 2012, 17:40:21
i'm waiting for it :)
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Post by: fstop on Sun, 12 February 2012, 17:43:13
Damn dibs already huh. I'm interested as well if anyone has an extra RGBY up :).
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Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 12 February 2012, 18:36:49
I know I have been hounding hashbaz since right after the order got put in. Should have put up the cash to begin with.
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Post by: gridlock on Sun, 12 February 2012, 23:02:16
Quote from: hashbaz;512746
I do.  They'll be up for sale after the initial orders ship.

Excellent... I'll guarantee a purchase.
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 12 February 2012, 23:52:36
i'd just like to point out that i called dibs in post 528, appx 2 pages ago ;)
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Post by: metafour on Sun, 12 February 2012, 23:56:19
Quote from: mkawa;512990
i'd just like to point out that i called dibs in post 528, appx 2 pages ago ;)

Not that dibs really matters here but check the posts prior to #528 and you'll find myself and others inquired as well. ;)
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 12 February 2012, 23:59:42
i refuse to believe that those posts exist
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Post by: Atenacius on Mon, 13 February 2012, 11:09:57
The Esc key looks fantastic. I'm really excited! Knowing how SP keys wear, I'm glad I bought more than one. Although I wish I had ordered more. Thanks hashbaz and cycloverid
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 13 February 2012, 11:21:01
Quote from: Atenacius;513282
The Esc key looks fantastic. I'm really excited! Knowing how SP keys wear, I'm glad I bought more than one. Although I wish I had ordered more. Thanks hashbaz and cycloverid

The Esc key looks sooo amazing -- it turned out the best by far, I think.  I smile every time I notice it there on my Leopold. :D
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Post by: reaper on Mon, 13 February 2012, 12:24:44
^ I'm still waiting for that smiley myself. =P


Sent from iPhone
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 13 February 2012, 12:44:33
Quote from: reaper;513309
^ I'm still waiting for that smiley myself. =P

The keys will ship soon, I promise. :)  I'm waiting to hear back from Melissa before I send any out.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 13 February 2012, 13:17:08
They look really slick in your avatar!
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 13 February 2012, 14:55:11
Ok, Melissa is rerunning the ISO shifts.  No word yet on a time frame, but I asked her in a follow-up email.

She pushed back on the diamond keys, which I expected.  She says they're only 0.005" off, which sounds insignificant.  But in person, when viewed at a normal typing angle, the difference is clearly visible without measuring.  I told her that if she can verify that our keys came from the same mold as the diamond key from R3, I'll be satisfied to keep what we have.
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:07:20
Melissa says they only have one 1.25x diamond mold, so the old keys must be off-center too.  The new ISO shifts should be done in about a week.  So unless ISO people tell me otherwise, I'm going to hold off shipping their orders until I have the new keys (and I'll include both the original arrowless keys and the new arrowed ones).

Non-ISO orders should go out tomorrow morning!
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:13:09
Quote from: hashbaz;513404
Melissa says they only have one 1.25x diamond mold, so the old keys must be off-center too.  The new ISO shifts should be done in about a week.  So unless ISO people tell me otherwise, I'm going to hold off shipping their orders until I have the new keys (and I'll include both the original arrowless keys and the new arrowed ones).

Non-ISO orders should go out tomorrow morning!

Us campers are getting closer ;)
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:18:59
Quote from: lightsout714;513406
Us campers are getting closer ;)

Heh, don't get too excited.  I'm going to wait until people start receiving their keys to post the sale thread.  The extras are also insurance in case stuff gets lost in the mail. :)
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Post by: bavman on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:21:24
When did these ship out hash?
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:24:32
Quote from: hashbaz;513411
Heh, don't get too excited.  I'm going to wait until people start receiving their keys to post the sale thread.  The extras are also insurance in case stuff gets lost in the mail. :)

No worries. I am patient (yah right) :)
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Post by: demik on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:26:08
Damn it I should have gotten an iso shift in the beginning
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Post by: tsangan on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:26:52
Quote from: demik;513416
Damn it I should have gotten an iso shift in the beginning
I know eh, now I gotta camp too ;<
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 13 February 2012, 15:27:55
Quote from: hashbaz;513404
Non-ISO orders should go out tomorrow morning!

Quote from: bavman;513412
When did these ship out hash?

They shipped tomorrow morning. ;)
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Post by: agor on Mon, 13 February 2012, 16:09:48
Well, I think 1 week is pretty fast for the new ISO shifts .everything fine for me, want to see the red escape smile on my face, too
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 14 February 2012, 12:57:41
All US orders have shipped!  I've PM'd tracking info to the priority orders.  International orders that don't include ISO shifts should go out tomorrow or the next day.  For the record, "all US orders" is:

demik, litster, eth0s, reaper, Vornath, DanGWanG, bavman, The_Ed, dorkvader, calavera, Quarzac, Atenacius, cmh, Leftoverrice, AbsurdMan, jpm804, lyk503, Bongoojingie, ruiner17, Reptile, N8N, inlikeflynn, Weapon, tsangan, Intense, feng, biochem, thegunner100, adelek, Biniaris, Jam, pitashen, shawn o , zzspectrez, rainb1ood, SmallFry, scrubadub, Minas, boost, and cycloverid.

Happy Valentine's Day

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lglujsaCLT1qcajsio1_500.gif)
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Post by: demik on Tue, 14 February 2012, 13:01:05
I know how you feel ralphie :(


Can't wait to get my set :) thanks again hashbaz
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Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 14 February 2012, 13:04:27
Sweet, cant wait to get them. Hopefully they reach the other side of the U.S before the weekend arrives. Thanks hasbaz!
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Post by: DanGWanG on Tue, 14 February 2012, 13:47:25
cheeeyaaaaa

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40494[/ATTACH]
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Post by: wongster on Tue, 14 February 2012, 15:06:16
Uh oh. I have the Esc smile:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40518[/ATTACH]

Big thanks to hashbaz :)
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Post by: Quarzac on Tue, 14 February 2012, 20:54:07
I should really get a cherry board that I will be able to use these caps with.
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Post by: 7roi on Wed, 15 February 2012, 00:50:55
Hash, I saw the email. The address & My name is right.^^
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 15 February 2012, 00:52:54
Quote from: 7roi;514942
Hash, I saw the email. Address is right.^^

Thanks.
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Post by: AlleyViper on Wed, 15 February 2012, 15:18:15
I've confirmed address also by PM, tnx.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 15 February 2012, 15:57:17
Thanks guys.  All the addresses I had questions on have been confirmed.  Non-ISO international orders should go out tomorrow morning.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 15 February 2012, 23:16:25
Here's a shot of our key (on the right) next to Kisakuku's genuine Cherry red escape.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40720[/ATTACH]

(http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/+_f3be28932e4b52f6a913c50ce83e1cf6.jpg)
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Post by: demik on Wed, 15 February 2012, 23:19:53
looks good!
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Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 16 February 2012, 00:06:35
Quote from: hashbaz;515786
Here's a shot of our key (on the right) next to Kisakuku's genuine Cherry red escape.


The Great Escape!
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Post by: jpm804 on Thu, 16 February 2012, 01:18:32
Totally forgot about these... pleasant surprise today. Thanks Has...

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0276.jpg)

Compared to the last RGB GB

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0275.jpg)
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 01:34:12
Quote from: jpm804;515898
Totally forgot about these... pleasant surprise today. Thanks Has...

Show Image
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0276.jpg)


Compared to the last RGB GB

Show Image
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0275.jpg)

Hurray, first contact!  And thanks for the feedback. :D
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 16 February 2012, 08:41:42
:jaw:
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Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 16 February 2012, 10:17:35
Quote from: jpm804;515898

Compared to the last RGB GB

Show Image
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0275.jpg)

wow the blue from this group buy looks so much nicer than the light baby blue color of last time. argh. I regret not getting a set of these :(
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:31:33
Quote from: hashbaz;515439
Thanks guys.  All the addresses I had questions on have been confirmed.  Non-ISO international orders should go out tomorrow morning.

I just got back from the post office.  If you're outside the US and didn't buy an ISO shift, your package is in the mail.

That's HoboBob, Zoop, Brendan, Dox, infamouskid, AlleyViper, Hakhu, 7roi, bongmist, dux, Kaiserreich, nerfredux, laggy-gaga, Torgee, jinzo.pk3, michaelgasser17, and malik17th.

Fun facts: We have both a Dox and a dux at geekhack.  And two of these people live in the same city in Ontario.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:47:44
Bizarro Dox/dux
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Post by: byFd on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:50:38
i smell multi account!
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Post by: reaper on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:52:04
Quote from: demik;516120
Bizarro Dox/dux

Yeah, kinda like litster & ripster. :biggrin:
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Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:53:00
Quote from: reaper;516125
Yeah, kinda like litster & ripster. :biggrin:

I knew it!  :lie:
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Post by: wongster on Thu, 16 February 2012, 12:17:11
Reposting because this thread needs moar RGBY pics:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40746[/ATTACH]
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Post by: Atenacius on Thu, 16 February 2012, 12:27:04
Quote from: hashbaz;515786
Here's a shot of our key (on the right) next to Kisakuku's genuine Cherry red escape.

(Attachment) 40720[/ATTACH]

Show Image
(http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/+_f3be28932e4b52f6a913c50ce83e1cf6.jpg)


The color is off but that's close enough for me. The original's orange-red is a bit off in comparison. I like the color we picked
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 12:47:37
Quote from: Atenacius;516169
The color is off but that's close enough for me. The original's orange-red is a bit off in comparison. I like the color we picked

Yeah, now that I've seen a genuine Cherry escape in person I like ours better too. :)
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Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 16 February 2012, 13:05:05
Quote from: hashbaz;516192
Yeah, now that I've seen a genuine Cherry escape in person I like ours better too. :)

We will not forgive or forget!

:fish:
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Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:03:37
Just got mine in the mail.  The yellow legend modifier seems pretty centered to me...but I'm bad at this kind of stuff, so you tell me!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40757[/ATTACH]

Other pics on my Leopold TKL:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]40754[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40755[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40756[/ATTACH]
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Post by: Dox on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:04:51
What are you talking about, I don't live in Ontario and I have a single account. I don't know who's that dux is.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:06:06
Quote from: Dox;516258
What are you talking about, I don't live in Ontario and I have a single account. I don't know who's that dux is.

I meant two of the people in the entire list, not two of the people out of you and dux. :P
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Post by: Vornath on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:30:46
Package arrived safely in New York.
Thank you.
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Post by: litster on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:35:42
got mine today.  The diamond is off center to me.  But not that big of a deal.  I probably won't use it anyway :-)  Thanks hashbaz!
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:38:55
hmm... folks getting their packages... seems like a good time to let us campers start calling dibs on the leftovers ;)
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Post by: dirge on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:42:44
Quote from: mkawa;516290
hmm... folks getting their packages... seems like a good time to let us campers start calling dibs on the leftovers ;)

mind reader!
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Post by: cmh on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:45:46
I just got mine today and they look great!  Only thing I'm having trouble with is the Shift keys.  The inserts are falling out of them and the key itself gets stuck.  I had to go to work but I'm going to try some different inserts later tonight.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:50:40
Quote from: cmh;516299
I just got mine today and they look great!  Only thing I'm having trouble with is the Shift keys.  The inserts are falling out of them and the key itself gets stuck.  I had to go to work but I'm going to try some different inserts later tonight.

Yeah, SP's stabilized keys can be pretty loose.  Just place a small piece of plastic or paper over the holes before you push the inserts in.  That'll keep them nice and tight.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 14:53:46
Glad to see people receiving their keys safely.  Please leave me iTrader feedback (http://geekhack.org/itrader.php?u=12137) if you feel so inclined... (and thanks to those who have already).
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Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 16 February 2012, 15:29:26
Quote from: hashbaz;516312
Glad to see people receiving their keys safely.  Please leave me iTrader feedback (http://geekhack.org/itrader.php?u=12137) if you feel so inclined... (and thanks to those who have already).

you got it bruddah'
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 15:33:19
Quote from: mkawa;516290
hmm... folks getting their packages... seems like a good time to let us campers start calling dibs on the leftovers ;)

Just to be clear, I'm not respecting anyone's dibs.  There will be a sale thread, and it will be first come first served. :)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: dirge on Thu, 16 February 2012, 15:49:39
Fair enough, but at least place a "next week wednesday there'll be a sale" thred, or it'll slip us past :P
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 16 February 2012, 15:52:23
Quote from: hashbaz;516357
Just to be clear, I'm not respecting anyone's dibs.  There will be a sale thread, and it will be first come first served. :)
i am absolutely clear that i will be getting a set :lalala:
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 15:55:17
Quote from: dirge;516377
Fair enough, but at least place a "next week wednesday there'll be a sale" thred, or it'll slip us past :P

Ok.  I'll notify this thread a day in advance of posting.
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 16 February 2012, 15:56:34
yay
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Post by: demik on Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:35:33
you are a gentleman and a scholar hashbaz!

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20408132/Kb%20pics/Photo%20Feb%2016%2C%204%2031%2003%20PM.jpg)

next to my aggie's RGB set.

RGB-Y awesoneness!!!

the hoarder in me is content
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: cmh on Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:42:06
Quote from: hashbaz;516307
Yeah, SP's stabilized keys can be pretty loose.  Just place a small piece of plastic or paper over the holes before you push the inserts in.  That'll keep them nice and tight.


That's an excellent idea, i'll do that when I get home.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:45:11
Quote from: demik;516507
you are a gentleman and a scholar hashbaz!

Show Image
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20408132/Kb%20pics/Photo%20Feb%2016%2C%204%2031%2003%20PM.jpg)


next to my aggie's RGB set.

RGB-Y awesoneness!!!

the hoarder in me is content

Those look very nice!
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Post by: demik on Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:48:50
now to find a board to put it on.

black cherry DS or white/beige cherry DS.. decisions decisions
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:49:28
You got enough, do both!
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: demik on Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:51:04
its going to be for my poker tho, i want it to stay there for awhile :)
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Post by: wongster on Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:02:42
Quote from: demik;516525
now to find a board to put it on.

black cherry DS or white/beige cherry DS.. decisions decisions


First world/geekhacker problems :)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: reaper on Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:23:03
Got mine today too.  Thanks hashbaz.. I'll leave you feedback in a bit.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/key%20caps/DSC07026.jpg)

Next to original Cherry Corp Esc:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/key%20caps/DSC07031.jpg)
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Post by: scrubadub on Thu, 16 February 2012, 20:09:34
Got mine, they look fabulous! Sadly, one of my blue Alts has a small hairline crack along most of the surface. Wish it had been on the yellow one where the blinding color might have distracted me more from it. Sigh.

The Red escape is way better than the generic red one that came with my Leopold, although the sprue mark on the front is hardly ideal. I got two of the faux reds and put the less egregious sprue offender on my keyboard where it's hardly noticeable. Below: Topre, faux Cherry Red, "free EK Red".

Thanks Hashbaz for putting this all together.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]40816[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40817[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40818[/ATTACH]
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Post by: Quarzac on Thu, 16 February 2012, 20:25:10
Got mine today! The keys look great, though I can't help but feel like the stems on my escapes are off center.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 20:36:44
Scrubadub, I can hook you up with a new Alt.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: scrubadub on Thu, 16 February 2012, 20:51:18
Thanks man, PM sent.
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Post by: N8N on Thu, 16 February 2012, 21:20:58
I've been real scarce lately (two deaths in the family, bought a "new" vehicle, work's been hell) but I got a nice surprise in the mail today.  Took the time to spiff up my Filco with my new RGBYs.  They look great!  and no more WINDOWS!

Now I just have to decide if I want to keep it all black or go full on old school, as I also received recently my beige/grey caps...  decisions decisions.  There's worse problems to have.  But first I have to pull the flywheel cover on this @#$% Jeep and find out if I have a real problem or not.  I do have to say that I like this RGBY set even better than the previous RGBs that I had - the extra effort in the font really paid off.
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Post by: reaper on Thu, 16 February 2012, 21:36:31
Quote from: N8N;516624
I've been real scarce lately, two deaths in the family..

Sorry to hear that.  Hope everything's ok.  Real life > online forums.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 16 February 2012, 21:51:31
I'm glad I was able to help bring you back to the forum N8N.  Sorry to hear about real life problems though. :(
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Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 16 February 2012, 23:35:18
Got mine Hashbaz! They're really excellent! Is it just me or are SP modifiers thicker than their escapes? Either way, it's great. I especially like the texture on the shifts. It's now my favourite key feel, even over my beloved PBT!

My yellow keys are noticeably off, but I can certainly live with it. I compared them to my "real" cherry shifts, and they match up really well! I think this'll be a fixture on my keyboards for quite some time.

Bytheway, my WASD setup now looks really similar to the 'board in your avatar. I have a blank key from WASD for my capslock, and used cherry doubleshots
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Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 17 February 2012, 00:29:01
I'm wondering if there should've been a blank beige/black key on for the 'Menu'. For the people without Moogle Kits anyway.
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 17 February 2012, 00:50:53
Huh. I have not 1 but 2 vintage cherry doubleshot un-stepped capslocks now. The thought of used doubleshots kinda grosses me out. I only use new from 99hk. I just wish my red esc would come sometime soon...

I already turned down a $20 offer for the second capslock I just got yesterday. But he bought 58 of the other keys on the board from me. (Some) of the relegendables, and the brown switches are still up for sale. I also sold the rest of my black moogle 2.

So overall it's been a good day for me, except for the red esc...

If you ask me the capslock is one of those attainable keys that really pulls the board together. Unlike the nearly unattainable genuine red esc.
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Post by: demik on Fri, 17 February 2012, 00:57:26
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1pdt07.jpg)

put them on my poker.

absolutely love them!
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Post by: jpm804 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 00:59:16
Quote from: demik;516767
Show Image
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1pdt07.jpg)


put them on my poker.

absolutely love them!

oh damn you stole my idea =P... will have to go to plan B now.. looks good though Demik. :thumb:
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Post by: demik on Fri, 17 February 2012, 01:01:03
plan b = black ds?

yes! do it! i want to see how it looks.

ty sir :D
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Post by: cmh on Fri, 17 February 2012, 01:02:01
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8212/img0442cv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/img0442cv.jpg/)

Picture not so great but I had to put them on as soon as I got out of work.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 February 2012, 02:15:51
The pictures are looking great, everyone.  I gotta say I'm really thrilled with how good the keys look on all your keyboards.

And a lot of you said some really kind things in your iTrader feedback -- thank you so much, I appreciate it.
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Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 02:17:18
Do you have any extra RGBY set to sell?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 February 2012, 02:22:03
Quote from: elton5354;516807
Do you have any extra RGBY set to sell?

I'll post a sale thread for the extras when most of the original orders have been received.  Probably another week or two.
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Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 02:23:48
Quote from: hashbaz;516809
I'll post a sale thread for the extras when most of the original orders have been received.  Probably another week or two.

Ok thanks. Don't be sold out without me! :D
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Post by: biochem on Fri, 17 February 2012, 16:31:43
Got mine today. Thanks hashbaz!

Here's a pic of the esc key cap next to two others from SP.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]40905[/ATTACH]
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Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 16:46:38
Finally got my keys today! Everything seems to be looking good except for one thing...

I think i may have gotten a bad left ansi shift. it wont fit onto my filco properly. When i put the key in, it would stay depressed =/

edit: same with the left ctrl key. It seems like the left side of the keys are too long.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 February 2012, 16:50:41
Quote from: thegunner100;517286
Finally got my keys today! Everything seems to be looking good except for one thing...

I think i may have gotten a bad left ansi shift. it wont fit onto my filco properly. When i put the key in, it would stay depressed =/

This has happened to me before, usually when I mess up hooking the white inserts to the stabilizer wire ... are you sure you have it seated properly?  Does it still stay depressed if you don't connect the stabilizers?
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Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:01:04
Yes, i've made sure that the stabilizers are in the correct way. The ctrl and shift keys stay depressed even without the stabilizers. It seems to only be the left keys that are causing the problem, the right side is fine.

Perhaps i should file off a little bit of the left keys so that it would fit better?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:03:38
I got mine today in great style! They look superb! Thanks Hashbaz!
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Post by: wongster on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:05:27
Try swapping the left and right control keys to see if the problem persists. Doesn't sound like a keycap issue though. Hm.
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Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:12:29
Quote from: wongster;517295
Try swapping the left and right control keys to see if the problem persists. Doesn't sound like a keycap issue though. Hm.


Same results. The keys are causing friction with the keyboard case.
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Post by: Reptile on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:14:39
Quote from: thegunner100;517286
Finally got my keys today! Everything seems to be looking good except for one thing...

I think i may have gotten a bad left ansi shift. it wont fit onto my filco properly. When i put the key in, it would stay depressed =/

edit: same with the left ctrl key. It seems like the left side of the keys are too long.


It's not the keys I had a filco like this as well. Some people shave the side of the keys to make it work though I have never done it. SP keys fit fine on my new filco though. Do you have another board to test it on?
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Post by: rainb1ood on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:17:15
Thank you hashbaz, got mine today.

(http://i.imgur.com/RKaKl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HcfZu.jpg)

Someone sell me beige/gray space bar that fits filco/poker :D
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Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:17:21
Ill have a CM quick fire coming on monday that i could try the keys on. But if shaving off the side of the key works, then it might be worth a try.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Reptile on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:23:13
Quote from: thegunner100;517303
Ill have a CM quick fire coming on monday that i could try the keys on. But if shaving off the side of the key works, then it might be worth a try.

Yeah do some searching there is definitely posts about it
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:23:31
Quote from: rainb1ood;517302
Thank you hashbaz, got mine today.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RKaKl.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HcfZu.jpg)


Someone sell me beige/gray space bar that fits filco/poker :D


What caps are the alpha numerics?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: rainb1ood on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:26:28
Quote from: lightsout714;517309
What caps are the alpha numerics?

WYSE set I bought from bavman
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:27:50
Quote from: rainb1ood;517302
Thank you hashbaz, got mine today.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RKaKl.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HcfZu.jpg)


Someone sell me beige/gray space bar that fits filco/poker :D

Looks good!  A WASD spacebar should fit, I believe.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:31:48
thanks
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:34:55
Quote from: thegunner100;517303
Ill have a CM quick fire coming on monday that i could try the keys on. But if shaving off the side of the key works, then it might be worth a try.

Fairly common problem with the top half of the tenkeyless Filco case. In my experience, firmly pushing on the left edge of the housing from the inside out (from right to left) realigns it just enough for the keys to stop sticking.
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Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 17 February 2012, 17:54:25
Shaving off part of the ctrl key fixed the sticky problem! Now i just need to shave the shift and get the stabilizers to fit properly, thanks for the help!
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 17 February 2012, 19:21:52
If I remember correctly these keys used the .018" cutter and are too small/less bold. And the moogle 2 used a .02" cutter and were too big/too bold. Does that mean we need a .019" cutter for future cherry font keys? Or a metric cutter between .018" and .02"?

I just noticed I got post #666... Is that a sign?...
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 February 2012, 20:49:33
Quote from: The_Ed;517394
If I remember correctly these keys used the .018" cutter and are too small/less bold. And the moogle 2 used a .02" cutter and were too big/too bold. Does that mean we need a .019" cutter for future cherry font keys? Or a metric cutter between .018" and .02"?

I just noticed I got post #666... Is that a sign?...

Yeah I believe you're right on the cutter widths IIRC.  It's also my understanding that there's no cutter width in between .018 and .02.  IMO these legends are good enough for future moogle/RGB rounds.
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 17 February 2012, 22:09:43
Only if everyone agrees that .018" is closer to actual cherry than .02". Or if everyone likes the look of .018" better than .02". So you're saying that they don't even have a metric cutter between .018" and .02"? Afterall cherry is based in Germany so they would use a metric cutter right?
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Post by: rainb1ood on Fri, 17 February 2012, 22:28:13
My Filco MJ2 tenkeyless in Ripster's Anti-Otaku mode with the RGB kit and an out of place ninja caps lock (still deciding if I'm going to use the yellow on this one)
(http://i.imgur.com/1prEO.jpg)
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 February 2012, 23:44:35
Quote from: The_Ed;517531
Only if everyone agrees that .018" is closer to actual cherry than .02". Or if everyone likes the look of .018" better than .02". So you're saying that they don't even have a metric cutter between .018" and .02"? Afterall cherry is based in Germany so they would use a metric cutter right?

There's also the money issue to consider.  We have legends that look really good.  For me it is probably not worth spending the money to experiment further.

I don't think SP has metric cutters at all.  Down with powers of ten!
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Post by: cycloverid on Sat, 18 February 2012, 00:07:11
I'm almost sure they just used a 0.015" cutter for these.  I refuse to believe that the 0.018" wouldn't actually be a little too much.  Given the type of responses I've gotten from Melissa (~"You won't even notice the difference"), it seems very likely.

At some point I'll have to check this theory out with some overlays.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 18 February 2012, 00:11:42
Quote from: cycloverid;517588
I'm almost sure they just used a 0.015" cutter for these.  I refuse to believe that the 0.018" wouldn't actually be a little too much.  Given the type of responses I've gotten from Melissa (~"You won't even notice the difference"), it seems very likely.

At some point I'll have to check this theory out with some overlays.

I can take some comparison pictures with the Esc prototype as well, which was 0.015.  Now I just have to find the Esc prototype...
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Post by: litster on Sat, 18 February 2012, 00:14:50
Maybe I can take some macro shots.  I have RGB keys from last 2 rounds.  What shots do you need?
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Post by: cycloverid on Sat, 18 February 2012, 00:19:31
Just a side-by-side shot of the prototype and the finalized escape will be enough for now :tongue:

Specifically: the supposed 0.018" cutter next to a 0.015" (preferrably both escape keys)  Thanks for the enthusiam though litster!
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Post by: litster on Sat, 18 February 2012, 00:20:23
hehe, I guess I can't.  I don't have the prototype.  would comparison shots between round2 and round3 work?
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Post by: Grond on Sat, 18 February 2012, 04:21:25
Talking about Moogle III, as you know KBC is now making Cherry profiled pbt dye subs
(http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25897-here-we-are-thick-dyesub-group (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25897-here-we-are-thick-dyesub-group)).
I wonder if they would print costum legends? That could make a suitable Moogle kit for Cherry dye subs.
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Post by: pitashen on Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:15:59
got my order! thanks!!!
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Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:17:51
Got my order like 2 days ago! They look great, and I can see what you mean hashbaz that yellow diamond key looks a lot more off then .5mm

Either way I love how the colours turned out, the yellow could be a little richer and less bright but I think we got the RGB colours down :)
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:41:33
Quote from: tsangan;517861
Got my order like 2 days ago! They look great, and I can see what you mean hashbaz that yellow diamond key looks a lot more off then .5mm

Either way I love how the colours turned out, the yellow could be a little richer and less bright but I think we got the RGB colours down :)

Yeah, if there are future RGBY rounds I think YBP is the way to go.
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Post by: shawn o on Sat, 18 February 2012, 15:01:13
Got mine thanks!!!!!
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Post by: Reptile on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:55:31
(http://i.imgur.com/GyNps.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BdyPm.jpg)

Came in yesterday along with my poker. Nice timing ;-)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: zzspectrez on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:59:29
I can't wait!!!! :)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: calavera on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:36:17
I got them earlier today. They look great. Thanks :D
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: captain on Sun, 19 February 2012, 03:41:35
Are there any extras?
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Post by: metafour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 04:47:10
Quote from: hashbaz;513411
Heh, don't get too excited.  I'm going to wait until people start receiving their keys to post the sale thread.  The extras are also insurance in case stuff gets lost in the mail. :)

Quote from: hashbaz;512746
I do.  They'll be up for sale after the initial orders ship.

Quote from: captain;518504
Are there any extras?

At some point there will be.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Taeyoung on Sun, 19 February 2012, 08:43:06
Would you please PM me later, if there are any leftovers? :-)
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Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 09:55:05
Quote from: Taeyoung;518573
Would you please PM me later, if there are any leftovers? :-)

Theres going to be a for sale thread. There are also plenty of others hoping to get some as well.
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Post by: henry1030 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:05:51
end?
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Post by: tsangan on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:07:34
Quote from: henry1030;519526
end?
Start?
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Post by: feng on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:23:26
Just got mine few days ago. These look much better than I was expecting. :) Thanks a lot for doing this, hashbaz!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41196[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41197[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41198[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41199[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41200[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41201[/ATTACH]
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Post by: tsangan on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:25:12
feng send me full size resolution of the first 2 pictures! Those would make awesome wallpaper :P
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 20 February 2012, 10:01:55
Quote from: feng;519540
Just got mine few days ago. These look much better than I was expecting. :) Thanks a lot for doing this, hashbaz!

[fantastic pictures]

Thanks for these fantastic pictures feng.
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Post by: tjweir on Mon, 20 February 2012, 13:01:26
@hashbaz, when were the Canadian orders sent?

Just trying to figure out when I'm going to get them.
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 20 February 2012, 13:07:38
Quote from: tjweir;519713
@hashbaz, when were the Canadian orders sent?

Just trying to figure out when I'm going to get them.

I sent out most of the Canadian orders on the 16th.  Yours however is waiting for the replacement ISO shifts which should arrive this week.
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Post by: tjweir on Mon, 20 February 2012, 14:06:09
Quote from: hashbaz;519719
I sent out most of the Canadian orders on the 16th.  Yours however is waiting for the replacement ISO shifts which should arrive this week.

Ah yes, the ISO issue.

Great, thanks!
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Post by: pitashen on Mon, 20 February 2012, 14:57:25
The Ecs is working out pretty good with the rest of the cherry keys. Thanks for the good work!
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Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 21 February 2012, 09:57:06
Thanks hashbaz for doing this group buy! The red Esc looks great and really brings this keyboard together I think:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41259[/ATTACH]
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 09:58:18
RGBY and esc looks great!

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41251&d=1329805611)
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Post by: fstop on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:31:47
Will there be a heads up on when the extras will go on sale? I know there a lot of eager customers :). These turned out so good.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:29:04
They look amazing on tsangan's blue Poker.  So vibrant, so fresh.

Quote from: fstop;520650
Will there be a heads up on when the extras will go on sale? I know there a lot of eager customers :). These turned out so good.

Yep, I'll notify this thread the day before I put the sale thread up.  Should it go in classifieds or group buys?
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Post by: pitashen on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:34:50
Quote from: hashbaz;520743
They look amazing on tsangan's blue Poker.  So vibrant, so fresh.



Yep, I'll notify this thread the day before I put the sale thread up.  Should it go in classifieds or group buys?


think either way should work, altho i think u probably do get rid of them faster in classifieds.
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Post by: mkawa on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:16:11
Quote from: hashbaz;520743
They look amazing on tsangan's blue Poker.  So vibrant, so fresh.



Yep, I'll notify this thread the day before I put the sale thread up.  Should it go in classifieds or group buys?
just send me a PM
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Post by: dirge on Tue, 21 February 2012, 13:22:00
Quote from: mkawa;520795
just send me a PM

subscribe to the thread bud :)
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Post by: mkawa on Tue, 21 February 2012, 13:23:11
no no see, the point is then i'll know they're for sale, but no one else will.

wait, i mean -- crap.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:17:01
The replacement ISO shifts have arrived, and they look great!  I don't have my camera with me now but I'll try to get pics up tonight or tomorrow.  The remaining international orders should go out tomorrow or the next day.  Thanks for being patient.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:40:36
Here are some mediocre images of the new ISO shifts.  As you can see they are aligned to match the right shift rather than the authentic Cherry textless left shift.  I'm not sure if the two Cherry shifts in the left-hand image are from the same set or not ... are they supposed to be that different from each other?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41330[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41331[/ATTACH]
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Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 22 February 2012, 00:12:38
Campers start your engines!  :D
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 22 February 2012, 02:59:55
Quote from: hashbaz;521538
Here are some mediocre images of the new ISO shifts.  As you can see they are aligned to match the right shift rather than the authentic Cherry textless left shift.  I'm not sure if the two Cherry shifts in the left-hand image are from the same set or not ... are they supposed to be that different from each other?

(Attachment) 41330[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 41331[/ATTACH]

Looks good to me! :D Those two black shifts are probably from two different sets or the right one is kind of defective (too bold).
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 03:28:49
The boldness on the right one is actually the correct boldness for a cherry shift arrow. The left one is the one that is less bold than normal for a cherry shift arrow. The left one looks to be the thickness of my black moogle 2 right shift arrow, which was way less bold compared to my vintage cherry shifts.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 03:35:18
They're both doubleshot Cherry keys.  Interesting.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 03:45:39
Another fun fact: Cherry has "4" different doubleshot slashes! There should only be 2 - "/" and "\". But there are 2 variations of each. I have at least one or more of each of the 4 keys. The slash on "/?" is different than the numpad "/", and the slash and pipe on "\|" is different on the ANSI an ISO versions.
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 22 February 2012, 04:36:24
Anyway, besides originality, I really like the textless shift way more than the text only one.
Hence... Handbag capslock for Moogle III!!!:lock1:
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Post by: infamouskid on Wed, 22 February 2012, 06:05:50
so when did these get shipped out?
i am itching to get mine already.
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Post by: agor on Wed, 22 February 2012, 06:35:03
Looks very nice. And Handbag would be best for next Moogle Kit ;)
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Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:28:19
Quote from: hashbaz;521630
They're both doubleshot Cherry keys.  Interesting.

I did notice a difference in the font boldness between my WYSE sets, even on the same keyboard. Now, I know WYSE (SP) is generally lower quality than cherry, but It's still highly probable that they've gone through some revisions on their molds.
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Post by: tjweir on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:39:16
Despite the mistake with the ISO shifts, can I still get the "incorrect" one as well?

I have a lot of keyboards :)
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 11:45:00
Quote from: infamouskid;521678
so when did these get shipped out?
i am itching to get mine already.

Yours was sent out on the 16th.

Quote from: agor;521693
Looks very nice. And Handbag would be best for next Moogle Kit ;)

I've been emailing back and forth with Melissa about the upcoming R3 moogle buy.  I'm up for adding some options.  Two issues though are cost and legend creation.  I don't want to bloat the cost of the buy.  I also don't want to burden cycloverid with making more legends from scratch.  I suppose at this point I should just suck it up and learn how to use Inkscape, but there's no guarantee that a handback legend done by someone other than cycloverid would look as good as his legends.

Quote from: tjweir;521756
Despite the mistake with the ISO shifts, can I still get the "incorrect" one as well?

I have a lot of keyboards :)

Yes, I'm including the original arrowless shifts with all the ISO orders.
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 22 February 2012, 14:24:37
How about this?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41366[/ATTACH]
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 22 February 2012, 14:29:28
Quote from: hashbaz;521950
Yes, I'm including the original arrowless shifts with all the ISO orders.

You just made a lot of people happy.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:29:25
I always hated that handbag. For moogle 3 how about a left-shafted un-stepped?
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:29:54
Quote from: The_Ed;522233
I always hated that handbag. For moogle 3 how about a left-shafted un-stepped?


Not going to happen, you're like the only person that wants one

But a Control <-> Caps lock keys swap would be cool since a lot of people swap Control and Caps lock
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:34:17
Quote from: tsangan;522234
Not going to happen, you're like the only person that wants one

But a Control <-> Caps lock keys swap would be cool since a lot of people swap Control and Caps lock

I would be down for that even though I won't do the swap; in4 both colors too.
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:35:25
Just White and Dolch for me, I'm all stock up on OEM Black ones, if it comes with the control/caps swap then I'll HAVE to get the black set too ._.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:39:45
Quote from: tsangan;522252
Just White and Dolch for me, I'm all stock up on OEM Black ones, if it comes with the control/caps swap then I'll HAVE to get the black set too ._.

There is going to be Dolch too?!
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:49:55
I remember there was one other guy besides me that wanted a left-shafted un-stepped capslock.
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:51:17
Quote from: The_Ed;522270
I remember there was one other guy besides me that wanted a left-shafted un-stepped capslock.

Whoops, 2 people
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:52:02
Quote from: gilgam;455346
I got hem today , they look fine BUT

caps loft stem is centered ... is this normal ?
NA d the p is a little bit odd
but they look quite nice.

I think it was him, otherwise that makes 3.
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Post by: tjweir on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:15:23
Quote from: tsangan;522234
Not going to happen, you're like the only person that wants one

But a Control <-> Caps lock keys swap would be cool since a lot of people swap Control and Caps lock

I'd like a control replacement as well, as I always make the swap.  

I'd be in for 2 WHITE.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:17:10
It sounds to me like there should be a supplemental kit added onto the moogle 3 for odd keys with lower interests.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:28:37
I don't see any reason to include a non-center-stem caps lock, honestly.  The point of a moogle kit is to adapt a Cherry set to fit a modern standard-layout keyboard.  If you have an off-center keyboard, can't you use a real Cherry caps lock?
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:34:59
I have to do this to the rare NIB cherry doubleshot center-stemmed un-stepped capslocks. Children and the weak of heart, you have been warned.


Quote from: The_Ed;518060
I don't plan on murdering my second rare NIB doubleshot un-stepped capslock (as of this time). And why would I trade a rare NIB doubleshot un-stepped capslock for stepped ones that I already have too many of?

As far as I know I am the first person to do this keycap cruelty.

1. Take a NIB doubleshot ISO "|\" key and murder it for a stem.
2. Take a rare NIB doubleshot un-stepped capslock and murder the stem out of it.
3. Epoxy the murdered "|\" key shaft into the capslock - left justified.
4. Put it onto my G80-3494LYCUS-2.
5. Take pictures to confirm the kill.
6. Post them to horrify people on GH.
7. Wait for the horrified responses and cries for justice to pour in.

Damn that capslock is sexy...

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=38810&d=1327717523)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41021&d=1329599426)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41022&d=1329599426)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41020&d=1329599426)
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:44:53
Don't you dare hurt that beautiful key!  I meant why don't you just use a regular stepped Cherry caps lock?
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:45:18
They aren't rare........
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:48:16
Quote from: tsangan;522334
They aren't rare........

Rly?  All the sets I've seen for sale here have had stepped, off-center caps locks, except those $80 new ones.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:48:39
They ARE rare, AND expensive. I hate stepped capslocks, but I love cherry brand boards that come with them... This is the compromise. 2 NIB doubleshots and a NIB mx red switch (for the jig) were murdered in the process.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:51:24
99hk sells sets that are stepped and left-shafted. And he sells them for $100 now. Only 8113/8200 have un-stepped center-stemmed capslocks. The doubleshot ones usually go for >$100 on ebay.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:53:33
I don't want to be a "shifty" character ripster. I saw that mod forever ago. Plus I don't even have a short shift to begin with.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:56:41
Quote from: The_Ed;522339
99hk sells sets that are stepped and left-shafted. And he sells them for $100 now. Only 8113/8200 have un-stepped center-stemmed capslocks. The doubleshot ones usually go for >$100 on ebay.

Oh, well then I have never seen a set with a center-stemmed caps lock for sale on GH.
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:01:20
Quote from: The_Ed;522339
99hk sells sets that are stepped and left-shafted. And he sells them for $100 now. Only 8113/8200 have un-stepped center-stemmed capslocks. The doubleshot ones usually go for >$100 on ebay.


Someone needs to look harder, this is coming from someone that sucks at looking for these things and I have 3 brand new sets and together it was under $100
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:07:45
I was offered $20 + shipping for the one I haven't murdered (yet). Since I would have taken a loss I turned it down. I am always open to offers on anything I have, but I'm not gonna take a loss unless I have no use for it. I won't let go of my second one for anything short of a small ransom.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41022&d=1329599426)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41020&d=1329599426)
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:08:45
I should start selling these sets and make a killing :rofl:
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:09:48
Quote from: tsangan;522352
Someone needs to look harder, this is coming from someone that sucks at looking for these things and I have 3 brand new sets and together it was under $100

Oh yeah? Prove it! Post the links or it didn't happen.
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:15:28
Quote from: The_Ed;522361
Oh yeah? Prove it! Post the links or it didn't happen.
I guess you're right then :sad:
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:18:33
Tsangan, you're saying you found three NIB Cherry sets with non-stepped, center-stemmed caps locks for < $100 total?

Are you a wizard?
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:21:09
No. He is the birthday clown. Only retarded children think clowns are wizards.
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:22:07
Quote from: hashbaz;522371
Tsangan, you're saying you found three NIB Cherry sets with non-stepped, center-stemmed caps locks for < $100 total?

Are you a wizard?

Nah, like I said I usually suck at hunting these things, maybe I got lucky? I was just looking for center stem 1.25x mods and the flat caps happened to be with the set

Quote from: The_Ed;522376
No. He is the birthday clown. Only retarded children think he's a wizard.

Barking again I see
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:24:06
I can't help my nature. And if you say that I bark, does ripster roar?
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:25:10
P.S. I am asking Melissa about a non-stepped off-center caps lock.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:27:07
Quote from: hashbaz;522381
P.S. I am asking Melissa about a non-stepped off-center caps lock.

Thanks. I think I saw one in an old GB round. Which means it is possible.
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Post by: metafour on Wed, 22 February 2012, 20:50:14
Quote from: The_Ed;522382
Thanks. I think I saw one in an old GB round. Which means it is possible.

I think the Round 3 set I just got has one.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 20:51:13
She says she'll check with the tooling people tomorrow.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 21:15:32
I think I remember people complaining about messed up keycaps from that time too. The shafts were too far to the left if I remember correctly.

Those bottom 2 look like they're too far left.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41427&d=1329966760)
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 21:18:02
Heh, that is the exact image I sent to Melissa.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 22 February 2012, 21:30:16
You always complain about SP, yet keep forking over the dough...

My capslock mod is measurably within a <1mm tolerance in all measurements. With full depression since the shaft was left unfiled. Those pictures look 3mm off.
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Post by: 7roi on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:40:31
I just received the keycabs. nice color~!:) Thank you.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41448[/ATTACH]
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:42:43
Quote from: 7roi;522831
I just received the keycabs. nice color~!:) Thank you.
(Attachment) 41448[/ATTACH]

Nice pic!  And thanks for the kind words in your iTrader feedback. :)

Less than a week to ship to Korea ... not bad!
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Post by: tsangan on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:53:26
I like our blue more! But I like REBEL's yellow more :P

Oh I didn't know the green was different, I think I like the darker green in REBEL too also haha
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Post by: Grond on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:56:25
The green looks pretty much the same to me. But I was just posting your same impressions about blue and yellow! :) I hope we can re-run the yellow keycaps some day.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:58:45
Yeah, the Rebel yellow is definitely the way to go if there are future rounds.  I like our green better though -- it's slightly brighter.
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Post by: tsangan on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:58:54
Maybe it's the lighting, it seems darker not sure
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 02:03:39
Quote from: tsangan;522845
Maybe it's the lighting, it seems darker not sure

Rebel green is VCS, ours is VCM.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41042&d=1301899602)
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Post by: 7roi on Thu, 23 February 2012, 02:06:25
Now, I want to have RGBY Winkeyless version of same color.:)
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Post by: kaiserreich on Thu, 23 February 2012, 04:31:28
Quote from: 7roi;522831
I just received the keycabs. nice color~!:) Thank you.
(Attachment) 41448[/ATTACH]

Can you please post a high res picture?
I'd love to have it as my wallpaper. Purty please

Here's a picture of a llama for your trouble
:llama:
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Post by: 7roi on Thu, 23 February 2012, 10:13:28
Quote from: kaiserreich;522911
Can you please post a high res picture?
I'd love to have it as my wallpaper. Purty please

Here's a picture of a llama for your trouble
:llama:

 :wave: This is the original image.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41465[/ATTACH]
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 11:38:08
I just dropped off the ISO orders at the post office.  That's tjweir, Wraul, Grond, Paulie, hOngE, Alasdair, agor, Ascaii, and gojira54.  I also shipped scrubadub's replacement alt.

All orders have now shipped!  Thanks everyone.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 11:46:11
Quote from: hashbaz;522381
P.S. I am asking Melissa about a non-stepped off-center caps lock.

Quote from: The_Ed;522382
Thanks. I think I saw one in an old GB round. Which means it is possible.

Melissa says they don't have the tooling for it, but they can do some modifications to make it possible for a $260 fee. :wacko:
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Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 11:58:09
How did they make the ones for round 3 then? I have a few in my round 3 set
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:03:58
hashbaz is there also extra red escs or only rgb kits?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:38:40
Quote from: demik;523195
How did they make the ones for round 3 then? I have a few in my round 3 set

Good question.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:39:10
Quote from: lightsout714;523209
hashbaz is there also extra red escs or only rgb kits?

Yup, I have escapes too.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 13:18:01
Nice
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Post by: tjweir on Thu, 23 February 2012, 13:46:24
Hooray!
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Post by: Grond on Thu, 23 February 2012, 14:51:09
Quote from: hashbaz;523160
All orders have now shipped!  Thanks everyone.

Great! Looking forward to them, I just hope italian posts won't take forever as usual! :D
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Post by: Ovoxo on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:03:29
Waiting patiently to hear you announce the extra sets for sell. But the wait is killing me...
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:17:59
Quote from: hashbaz;523171
Melissa says they don't have the tooling for it, but they can do some modifications to make it possible for a $260 fee. :wacko:


Quote from: demik;523195
How did they make the ones for round 3 then? I have a few in my round 3 set


Did they have the shaft in the correct place though? If not then that fee it to make them correct their tooling from round 3
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Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:29:03
Quote from: demik;523195
How did they make the ones for round 3 then? I have a few in my round 3 set

I have a TON of these non-stepped, capslock sized, and weirdly phrased (i.e. RUB OUT etc.) keycaps from the grab bag in white on dark gray (retro)...is there a high demand for these? lol
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:29:55
Quote from: DanGWanG;523432
I have a TON of these non-stepped, capslock sized, and weirdly phrased (i.e. RUB OUT etc.) keycaps from the grab bag in white on dark gray (retro)...is there a high demand for these? lol

Are their stems off-center?  If so, maybe Melissa isn't understanding what I'm asking for.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:34:25
We need pictures of the shafts DanGWanG.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:40:11
Quote from: The_Ed;523438
We need pictures of the shafts DanGWanG.

I would prefer to avoid seeing pictures of DanGWanG's shaft.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:45:47
Clearly we need spoiler tags for the shaft pics.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:56:05
Is it a short or long shaft?
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Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:58:16
Quote from: demik;523461
Is it a short or long shaft?

Pretty short, it's R2.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:12:20
Is it the length OR the width of a shaft that makes it "better"?

But seriously, we need pics to send to Melissa.
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Post by: litster on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:15:17
Quote from: demik;523461
Is it a short or long shaft?

That's what she said.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:17:16
Quote from: The_Ed;523477
Is it the length OR the width of a shaft that makes it "better"?

But seriously, we need pics to send to Melissa.

Neither, it's how the tooling is used.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:22:51
You can be a master, but with an improper tool there is only so much you can do.

Like with dremel bits - the job will get done, but it would've been a lot quicker and easier if you had the right attachment.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:27:00
Oh and my third set of 99hk doubleshot 104 came today! Looks like I'll need to get a third capslock... Let the quest begin!
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:04:20
Ok party people, I'm going to put the sale thread up tomorrow.  I know a lot of you are champing at the bit, so let's say 7:00 PM PST to make it reasonable for all US time zones.
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:05:37
agh! 6:30p-9p tomorrow is like the one and only window in which i'll be busy tomorrow

how does 6p feel? good? yes? i thought so.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:10:06
Quote from: mkawa;523524
agh! 6:30p-9p tomorrow is like the one and only window in which i'll be busy tomorrow

how does 6p feel? good? yes? i thought so.

I could do 5:00, but I'm usually not home until after 6:00.  I chose 7:00 because I figured it would be best to put it up after people are home from work.
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:17:06
well, i'll survive either way. i am capable of madly refreshing on my phone. thanks for the heads up!
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:17:31
Awesome news. Will there be any limit at first so one guy can't come in and swoop half of them real quick.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:23:39
Just make it midnight so nobody can complain they're busy. Do a limit of 1 red esc, and 1 rgby per person. First come first served for posts dated 00:00 and after.

Sound like good terms for all you campers?
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Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:24:35
all i want is one ISO shift <3
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:26:39
Quote from: The_Ed;523548
Just make it midnight so nobody can complain they're busy. Do a limit of 1 red esc, and 1 rgby per person. First come first served for posts dated 00:00 and after.

Sound like good terms for all you campers?

That sucks for the east coast, and is nice and convenient for Europe.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:32:26
Split the remaining stock in half. Have a sale time for the americas, and another sale time for the europeans. Is that better?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 17:35:52
I'm going to stick with 7:00 PST.  Hopefully the orders won't be so nuts that a few hours will make a difference.  I don't have a good sense for how much real demand there will be outside of the few vocal campers that have been posting in this thread.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 18:13:53
lets do this.

hold an ISO shift for me, forget everybody else =p
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Post by: captain on Thu, 23 February 2012, 18:16:34
Quote from: feng;519540
Just got mine few days ago. These look much better than I was expecting. :) Thanks a lot for doing this, hashbaz!

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Egads!  Rip that ugly shipping plastic off of the Corsair logo, then reshoot for wallpaper images, on a tripod, and without the junk in the background!  ;-)

Good lighting though.  Congrats on the great keycaps!  One day maybe I'll be able to join y'all in keycap heaven.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 19:11:42
Quote from: hashbaz;523565
I'm going to stick with 7:00 PST.  Hopefully the orders won't be so nuts that a few hours will make a difference.  I don't have a good sense for how much real demand there will be outside of the few vocal campers that have been posting in this thread.

Still hoping there will  be some sort of limit at least for the first hour or so for the campers. No worries though I'll be f5ing my ass off at 7pm!!!
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Post by: captain on Thu, 23 February 2012, 19:31:20
OH! So we sit here in 1.5hrs and when he posts something we all say MINE! And FIRST post wins?
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 19:32:49
Quote from: captain;523698
OH! So we sit here in 1.5hrs and when he posts something we all say MINE! And FIRST post wins?

There will be a classified tomorrow. Not today.

Sorry to sound desperate but what gets priority first a pm or a post in the classy thread?
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Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 19:35:55
you're in my thoughts hashbaz :rofl:

your inbox will be fun tomorrow!
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 19:52:04
Pm's flooding in at 7:00:01 without even looking in the classifieds :D
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Post by: captain on Thu, 23 February 2012, 19:52:20
Either way, I guess this is where speed typing wins!  LOL

I don't want to be a pest though, so knowing the rules of the game would be nice.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:07:15
Quote from: captain;523698
OH! So we sit here in 1.5hrs and when he posts something we all say MINE! And FIRST post wins?

Quote from: captain;523718
Either way, I guess this is where speed typing wins!  LOL

I don't want to be a pest though, so knowing the rules of the game would be nice.

The thread will go up around 25 hours from now in the classifieds subforum.  PM timestamp will determine sale order.  There are some people on deskthority who are interested, so I'll be accepting PMs there as well.  For the initial flurry I'll limit the orders to one RGBY set per person.  If orders trail off quickly, I'll allow people to add additional sets.
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Post by: tsangan on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:08:34
Am I allow to proxy order for someone since they are not available to purchase
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:37:57
Quote from: tsangan;523736
Am I allow to proxy order for someone since they are not available to purchase

Sure.  What we discussed is a special case but in general I think it's fairest to limit people to one set.
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Post by: captain on Thu, 23 February 2012, 21:02:11
Do I need to play this game to be considered for the orange with white insert keycaps?  Responsibility will most likely preclude my playing tomorrow. This was my one night off...  ;-P
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Post by: metafour on Thu, 23 February 2012, 21:09:01
Sweet, I think I only wanted one set anyway.
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Post by: thegunner100 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 21:38:42
Im not sure if this was mentioned before, but is the pricing for the keys going to be the same as the GB price? I think i might be interested in getting an extra esc key or two because they look so damn nice.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 21:45:16
We never got a picture of the prototype next to the final red esc. If they used the .015" instead of the .018" cutter then that would explain why these are smaller/less bold than vintage cherry.

We also need some more pictures of SP un-stepped left-stemmed capslocks to show Melissa.
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Post by: metafour on Thu, 23 February 2012, 22:20:04
Quote from: The_Ed;523821
We also need some more pictures of SP un-stepped left-stemmed capslocks to show Melissa.


Like this? (from a Round 3 set I just purchased from another member)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5514110/Filco%20Brown/Photo%20Feb%2023%2C%2021%2016%2016%20%28HDR%29.jpg)

Unstepped offset stem Control key
Stepped offset stem Caps Lock key
Unstepped center stem Caps Lock key
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 23 February 2012, 22:25:48
Yeah, those stems do look too far to the left. Second opinion anyone?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:18:20
Quote from: captain;523782
Do I need to play this game to be considered for the orange with white insert keycaps?  Responsibility will most likely preclude my playing tomorrow. This was my one night off...  ;-P

Do you mean the red escape keys?

Quote from: thegunner100;523811
Im not sure if this was mentioned before, but is the pricing for the keys going to be the same as the GB price? I think i might be interested in getting an extra esc key or two because they look so damn nice.

Pretty much -- escapes and extra shifts will be $3, RGBYs will be $17.

Quote from: The_Ed;523821
We never got a picture of the prototype next to the final red esc. If they used the .015" instead of the .018" cutter then that would explain why these are smaller/less bold than vintage cherry.

That's because I'm not sure where it is. :-/
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:27:55
Quote from: hashbaz;523996
That's because I'm not sure where it is. :-/

Don't worry. It'll be in the last place you check. Send Melissa the picture metafour posted. And is it just me or is the shaft too far left in that picture as well?

Quote from: metafour;523870
Like this? (from a Round 3 set I just purchased from another member)

Show Image
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5514110/Filco%20Brown/Photo%20Feb%2023%2C%2021%2016%2016%20%28HDR%29.jpg)


Unstepped offset stem Control key
Stepped offset stem Caps Lock key
Unstepped center stem Caps Lock key
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:37:19
that's too far left
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:44:16
That's what I thought. Which means that $260 fee IS to correct their incorrect tooling from round 3. That's bull**** if you ask me.
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 24 February 2012, 01:45:34
Is that dog stoned?
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Post by: rknize on Fri, 24 February 2012, 02:01:50
That's the best you could do?
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Post by: byFd on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:23:04
what time will the sale be in europe time? xD
i'm too dumb for timezones lol.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:27:25
Quote from: byFd;524173
what time will the sale be in europe time? xD
i'm too dumb for timezones lol.

7:00 PM PST ==> 4:00 AM CET

Sorry, I know that 's lame.
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Post by: dirge on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:45:27
come on hash, I'll be fast asleep! :P
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:58:09
Well there's not really a good time that works for everyone.  Pushing it to say 9:00 AM CET yields 3:00 AM on the US east coast.  Or pulling it back to 10:00 PM CET puts it during the afternoon across the US, when people are at work and many can't participate.

I guess I could wait until Saturday and post at 1:00 PM PST, which would be 10:00 PM CET.
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Post by: artee on Fri, 24 February 2012, 08:28:50
So what time is it gonna be? Should I set my alarm clock? :-)
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 08:52:35
Wait are we changing it? And please what gets precedent? A pm or a post in the thread?
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 08:54:48
hashbaz: out of curiosity, do you hav enough sets for everyone who's shown interest so far? i'm pretty sure this thing is going to be huge.
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Post by: telepete on Fri, 24 February 2012, 09:09:40
I missed the GB. I may try to get a set tonight (7 pm for you is 10 pm for me) but mostly I'm just going to hope for a round 2. There seems to be big demand. People seem to like these and I was just getting started on GH when this closed.
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Post by: artee on Fri, 24 February 2012, 09:20:33
there are 20 sets... according to post on deskthority... not enough for everyone :-(
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Post by: byFd on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:01:45
well either i'll gonna stay up till 4 am or i'll wake up at 4 am :D

i want it!
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Post by: agor on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:05:38
Thank you very much for this group buy, I'll be very happy when the keys arrive at my place!
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 11:31:38
Quote from: artee;524189
So what time is it gonna be? Should I set my alarm clock? :-)

I'm sticking with the original time.  Sorry, Europe.

Quote from: lightsout714;524197
Wait are we changing it? And please what gets precedent? A pm or a post in the thread?

PM.

Quote from: mkawa;524199
hashbaz: out of curiosity, do you hav enough sets for everyone who's shown interest so far? i'm pretty sure this thing is going to be huge.

I have 21 sets available.

Quote from: telepete;524210
I missed the GB. I may try to get a set tonight (7 pm for you is 10 pm for me) but mostly I'm just going to hope for a round 2. There seems to be big demand. People seem to like these and I was just getting started on GH when this closed.

I'll do a second round if there's sufficient demand, probably after the R3 moogle kit buy.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 11:33:54
I think Ascaii had the right idea. At the time of the sale ask a simple question and only accept PMs containing the answer.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 13:12:32
Quote from: Kisakuku;524338
I think Ascaii had the right idea. At the time of the sale ask a simple question and only accept PMs containing the answer.

The one you didn't do right?
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 13:19:25
Quote from: tsangan;524439
The one you didn't do right?

Meh, was still #2 with my re-do.
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Post by: byFd on Fri, 24 February 2012, 14:07:29
so is it in about 7 hours this night?
i hope i make it. dunno what my gf will think when i wake up at 4 am to buy some keys xD
maybe i program a script which pms you at 4 am xD
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 14:29:06
Quote from: byFd;524500
so is it in about 7 hours this night?

Yup.
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Post by: telepete on Fri, 24 February 2012, 16:08:39
Quote from: hashbaz;524336
I'll do a second round if there's sufficient demand, probably after the R3 moogle kit buy.


Sounds good. I'd be in for sure. The keys look great (the yellow mods!). I also imagine happy customers will want more. Time will tell I guess. Thanks hash.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 16:10:24
mbc has started an interest check (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27762) for an RGB set with black legends.  If that gets off the ground, I doubt we'll need or want another round of these.
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 17:08:59
Quote from: Kisakuku;524446
Meh, was still #2 with my re-do.


Well then who was #1?
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 17:33:41
Quote from: metafour;524660
Well then who was #1?

Is that a trick question?.. You were.
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Post by: Reptile on Fri, 24 February 2012, 18:09:44
Quote from: Kisakuku;524677
Is that a trick question?.. You were.

Lol on that. Anyways how many escapes are left?
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 18:57:37
Sorry to be lame at the last minute guys, but I might not be home on time tonight.  I'll try to get the thread up at 7:00 as planned but no guarantees.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 19:17:06
Ah bummer.

Do it now!!!!    :P
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Post by: Ovoxo on Fri, 24 February 2012, 19:22:16
Quote from: lightsout714;524781
Ah bummer.

Do it now!!!!    :P

I concur!
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Post by: fstop on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:01:24
Damn I was waiting for this too -_-... had to stall dinner plans. Looks like I'll just try back later.

Hope it gets rescheduled for all fairness.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:02:13
I guess its not happening I freed up this time as well.
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:05:02
hmm sent a pm at 7 sharp. will it be honored? my net is going to be spotty rest of the night
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Post by: korne on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:05:06
Quote from: lightsout714;524850
I guess its not happening I freed up this time as well.

:( I hope we can get that awesome caps, i just wake up at 4:00 @ spain time hehe
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:05:43
Quote from: mkawa;524853
hmm sent a pm at 7 sharp. will it be honored? my net is going to be spotty rest of the night

Hopefully it won't be because thats shady.
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:09:17
ok well then have fun camping folks, it turns out refreshing on a phone doesn't work so well
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Post by: demik on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:14:47
RGBY Sets, SRSBSNSS
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:17:40
Quote from: demik;524864
SRSBSNS

You should put that on your license plate :D
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:20:51
Well if this doesn't happen at least I ordered a set of blank black PBTs. My camping paid off at least a little.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:21:46
Where did you find blank black pbts? I thought they didn't exist. he dyed ones?
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:22:50
Nope, they're not dyed. ;)
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Post by: Ovoxo on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:23:22
Sigh. Hopefully he reschedules this then. Because I gotta leave soon.
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Post by: Ovoxo on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:24:20
They were from the imav poker gb. He had 2 extra sets for sale. Was gone in like 2 min.
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:24:26
He probably will which means I'm not going to be able to get a set. =\
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:24:30
Quote from: metafour;524870
Nope, they're not dyed. ;)

pics or it didn't...


edit; ninja'd damn
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:25:29
Yeah, imav listed them and I scooped up a set.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:28:20
And I was nice enough to only take one. Got sick of my blank black Ducky PBT set because of the poorly done LED windows, especially on the Caps Lock.
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:28:35
This will be the second time this has happened to me. I waited all day the Friday the clickclack 4grabs were supposed to go up and no dice. Coupled with the way some of the used stuff I've been buying lately has turned out and I'm batting a thousand!
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:29:56
Quote from: Kisakuku;524876
And I was nice enough to only take one. Got sick of my blank black Ducky PBT set because of the poorly done LED windows, especially on the Caps Lock.

Yeah I PM'd him before you posted saying that you PM'd him because I wasn't sure of what procedure he wanted us to follow. And even then, there's no communication saying you got a set or that you should expect a refund.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:36:02
Quote from: metafour;524878
Yeah I PM'd him before you posted saying that you PM'd him because I wasn't sure of what procedure he wanted us to follow. And even then, there's no communication saying you got a set or that you should expect a refund.

iMav is a busy guy, so let Paypal do the talking for you. I wouldn't complain too much, it's his forum after all.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:49:54
I apologize everyone for flaking at the last second, especially to those of you who made plans around the sale.  Something came up that I had to do, and I've been away from an Internet connection until just now.  Sale thread will go up in one hour and ten minutes (9:00 PM PST).  Resume camping!

Sorry but I can't in fairness honor the PMs I've received.  I'll be including one free red escape with every RGBY order, however, for inconveniencing everyone.
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Post by: metafour on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:51:12
Thanks for the update Hash! Now I can go grab something to eat and come back and hopefully snag a set.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:51:20
weee i go back to NBA then
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:53:34
Quote from: tsangan;524897
weee i go back to NBA then

*MLG
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Post by: oneproduct on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:53:45
Ah, are there a boatload of extra red escapes? Thought I'd just be aiming for one RGBY set and one red escape but now I'm wondering if it's possible to get more than one red escape.
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 21:55:54
Quote from: RColinTaylor;524899
*MLG

I watched ASUS ROG all day today :P
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:13:18
thanks hash
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:15:18
Oh man so much competition. :laser:
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:16:54
Quote from: oneproduct;524900
Ah, are there a boatload of extra red escapes? Thought I'd just be aiming for one RGBY set and one red escape but now I'm wondering if it's possible to get more than one red escape.

Yeah I have quite a few escapes, so feel free to order however many you want.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:18:55
Quote from: hashbaz;524930
Yeah I have quite a few escapes, so feel free to order however many you want.

Whats the price? I guess that will be in the thread.
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Post by: demik on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:19:36
i think me and tsangan are going to be able to snag some ISO shifts since it seems a lot of ppl are looking for ansi sets
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Post by: tsangan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:20:39
Quote from: demik;524934
i think me and tsangan are going to be able to snag some ISO shifts since it seems a lot of ppl are looking for ansi sets

:thumb:
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Post by: fstop on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:53:09
back from dinner and ready :)

should put a codeword to include in pm.

so people actually have to wait for it to go up.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:54:10
Quote from: fstop;524965
back from dinner and ready :)

should put a codeword to include in pm.

so people actually have to wait for it to go up.
I agree please add a word or something.
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:55:32
Isn't that a dirty trick at this point, since I haven't mentioned it before?
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:56:58
No way because everyone can just pm at 9 without reading the thread. Is that what you expect everyone to do? Just have a pm ready to hit send at 9?
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Post by: fstop on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:58:15
Shouldn't everyone be waiting for the thread to go up anyway? I would of posted the idea earlier. But thought of it over dinner hah. Anyway, up to you! Your sale.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:59:14
If theres nothing in the thread then people will just fire them off like they did at 7.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:59:36
Quote from: hashbaz;524974
Isn't that a dirty trick at this point, since I haven't mentioned it before?


Ascaii did it without any advance warning, that's the way to do it :peep:
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Post by: korne on Fri, 24 February 2012, 23:00:49
1 RGBY set + 2 extra RED ESC please
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 24 February 2012, 23:01:15
Thread is up!

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27791
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Post by: demik on Fri, 24 February 2012, 23:01:52
man these are really wanted aren't they.

-waits for them to sell out so i can sell my sets for millions!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!1!!!11!-
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Post by: fstop on Fri, 24 February 2012, 23:03:48
Lol. Wonder how this worked out.... thanks for using the code word :)
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 26 February 2012, 01:13:35
Round 3 moogle discussion thread is here:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27843

Please offer your opinions if you care about moogle kits.
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Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 26 February 2012, 02:47:31
The 1.25x keys feels much smoother than the Shift keys.
Did you asked for a different surface from SP?
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Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 26 February 2012, 09:31:27
Quote from: kaiserreich;526511
The 1.25x keys feels much smoother than the Shift keys.
Did you asked for a different surface from SP?
I noticed that, as well. I really like the shift keys, though. If I could get all my sp keys to feel like that, I wouldn't need PBT anymore.
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Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 26 February 2012, 20:34:06
Quote from: kaiserreich;526511
The 1.25x keys feels much smoother than the Shift keys.
Did you asked for a different surface from SP?

I didn't.  It's probably just how their molds are.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:24:05
Europeans and Australians, have your caps arrived yet?
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Post by: Brendan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 00:20:43
Just got my Red Esc's, loving them!
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Post by: tsangan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 00:26:18
EVERYONE IN THE LAST RGBY BETTER GET THIS IN THE OTHER GB

extraSYWHITE extra 1.25 Yellow modifier keys with white font and YBP, to replace the YY keys
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Post by: agor on Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:13:12
Quote from: hashbaz;530214
Europeans and Australians, have your caps arrived yet?


Nope. Maybe today
But this is the normal duration, can take up to two weeks
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Post by: Torgee on Wed, 29 February 2012, 05:37:45
recieved my red esc's couple (2ish) of days ago,
love em!
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Post by: AlleyViper on Wed, 29 February 2012, 11:20:58
Still haven't, but it's normal for things to take 2-3 weeks from overseas.
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Post by: tjweir on Wed, 29 February 2012, 12:21:02
Mine just showed up.

Thanks Hashbaz!

And the Red escape looks damn near perfect!
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 29 February 2012, 18:52:45
Anyone having problems with the RGBY keys fitting properly on Filco keyboards?  thegunner100 posted about his left shift and ctrl here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23865-FINISHED-Faux-Cherry-Red-ESC-RGBY-modifier-kit&p=517286&viewfull=1#post517286), and I've had one other person say that a left shift was sticking on a Filco.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Wed, 29 February 2012, 19:02:17
Quote from: hashbaz;531311
Anyone having problems with the RGBY keys fitting properly on Filco keyboards?  thegunner100 posted about his left shift and ctrl here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23865-FINISHED-Faux-Cherry-Red-ESC-RGBY-modifier-kit&p=517286&viewfull=1#post517286), and I've had one other person say that a left shift was sticking on a Filco.


Surprisingly enough, this a tenkeyless Filco case alignment problem, not an SP problem. Shave the left side of the keys or pull on the case a bit.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 29 February 2012, 19:08:19
How do we know for sure it's the case?  Couldn't it be variation in SP's shifts?
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Post by: fstop on Wed, 29 February 2012, 19:08:54
Quote from: tsangan;530426

[/LIST]



That's so perfect. Not interested in the RGB from this GB but I need this.
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Post by: captain on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:44:39
Well, the scientist in me says "MEASURE"....
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Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:39:00
Quote from: hashbaz;531327
How do we know for sure it's the case?  Couldn't it be variation in SP's shifts?

from the prior RGB group buy, my left shift rubs on my black FILCO board with any SP key there. The same key doesn't rub on my white FILCO board. so at least for me it is the case which I did shave slightly
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:55:31
Cool, good to know.
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Post by: mkawa on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:03:14
there are going to be tolerances on both the SP key and the filco case. filco only guarantees that the tolerances of its keys and cases won't line up to cause any keys to stick...
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Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:11:16
Quote from: mkawa;531538
there are going to be tolerances on both the SP key and the filco case. filco only guarantees that the tolerances of its keys and cases won't line up to cause any keys to stick...


And yet even their own keys sometimes stick, especially on boards with coated cases like the Filco Camo.
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Post by: Mysteric on Thu, 01 March 2012, 02:11:52
Will I have problems with this on my 105 key Filco MJ1 or is it a TKL problem?

EDIT: Holy crap, my keys got here already! Need to wait for my key puller to get here from qtan first though. Which keys are stabilised and are they easy to replace? I've never done it before.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 01 March 2012, 11:39:00
Quote from: Mackem;531764
Will I have problems with this on my 105 key Filco MJ1 or is it a TKL problem?

EDIT: Holy crap, my keys got here already! Need to wait for my key puller to get here from qtan first though. Which keys are stabilised and are they easy to replace? I've never done it before.

The shift keys are stabilized.  Swapping them takes a little practice.  YouTube has plenty of tutorial videos though.  If you don't want to wait for a puller, you can use a couple of paperclips bent into hooks.  See ripster's key wiki for details.
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:17:17
got mine! zomg so great. they really bring my poker together.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:23:17
Quote from: mkawa;532337
got mine! zomg so great. they really bring my poker together.

Haha awesome.  And thanks for the sweet iTrader comment, that might have to go in my sig. :)
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Post by: AlleyViper on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:34:46
Mine arrived today, looking good!
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Post by: mkawa on Thu, 01 March 2012, 16:28:51
Quote from: hashbaz;532345
Haha awesome.  And thanks for the sweet iTrader comment, that might have to go in my sig. :)
you can quote me if you want ;)
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 01 March 2012, 16:37:49
Mine came through, they look great. Fit on a TKL filco.
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Post by: agor on Fri, 02 March 2012, 00:45:52
I hope that my keys arrive today :(
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Post by: Ascaii on Fri, 02 March 2012, 10:43:41
caps received, thanks!
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Post by: agor on Sat, 03 March 2012, 05:06:09
They arrived in all their glory
[ATTACH=CONFIG]42527[/ATTACH]
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Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 03 March 2012, 08:47:43
That's a cool pic can you upload the full Res version somewhere.  Sorry if that's it I'm on tapatalk.
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Post by: agor on Sat, 03 March 2012, 09:22:06
Full (cropped) res: 4508x2557
9759 KB
http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_982741jwk.jpg
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Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 03 March 2012, 09:35:30
Oh damn 10mb you weren't playing. Awesome thank you !

Btw sweet camera!
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Post by: dfxdx on Wed, 07 March 2012, 10:25:28
2 x Esc received fine in London. Many thanks. Plse shout if this is being run again - I only joined GH after the deadline and missed this.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 07 March 2012, 11:38:15
Quote from: dfxdx;537812
2 x Esc received fine in London. Many thanks. Plse shout if this is being run again - I only joined GH after the deadline and missed this.

There's a very similar group buy happening right now (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27956-sending-out-invoices-Cherry-RGB-Y-Redesc), but I think it's already closed to new orders.  You could PM mbc about it.
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Post by: mehkat1974 on Thu, 08 March 2012, 00:28:26
just got my 3xred esc
Thanks heaps mate they are beautiful caps, can't actually remember when I bought them as I am in that many buys right now, but seemed like stupidly fast shipping

Cheers!
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Post by: tjweir on Thu, 08 March 2012, 06:25:06
I wish I had bought more Esc keys.  They look so good, I'd toss all my other Esc keys.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 08 March 2012, 08:36:49
Quote from: tjweir;538895
I wish I had bought more Esc keys.  They look so good, I'd toss all my other Esc keys.

Ha Ikniow that cheap one I got free from EK is like the red headed step child now.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 08 March 2012, 10:50:21
Quote from: tjweir;538895
I wish I had bought more Esc keys.  They look so good, I'd toss all my other Esc keys.

I have some left over you know...
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Post by: emptythecache on Sat, 10 March 2012, 20:32:17
Do you have any RGBY kits left over?
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Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 10 March 2012, 21:57:11
Sorry, just escapes and left shifts.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 March 2012, 18:25:19
I finally found the Esc prototype and verified that the legend on the final keys is both thicker and larger, as expected.
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Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 13 March 2012, 18:31:07
Then that means we need either a .019" cutter or a metric cutter between .018" and .02". If GH buys the cutter and sends it to them do you think that they would use it WITHOUT charging an extra fee?
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 March 2012, 22:36:57
Quote from: The_Ed;545020
Then that means we need either a .019" cutter or a metric cutter between .018" and .02". If GH buys the cutter and sends it to them do you think that they would use it WITHOUT charging an extra fee?

The answers to questions about getting new cutters will all be "no" and "really expensive".  I don't see any reason to redo the Ctrl/Alt/Shift legends.  In the name of expanding my understanding of SP and its processes, I will ask about new cutters.  But don't expect anything to come of it.
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Post by: cycloverid on Wed, 14 March 2012, 00:59:12
Sorry, I've been very busy with work lately.  I'd like to correct some misinformation.

Whatever we got was definitely not anything other than the 0.015" cutter.  They may have ran the cutter twice (making two identical cuts) - or just straight up the same as the prototype.  I can tell you this without even seeing the prototype.  Just look at the difference between my moogle kit and the RGB kit - it's massive.

A very quick and dirty image comparison (prototype from Melissa = white key):

[ATTACH=CONFIG]44041[/ATTACH]

Still not convinced?  Invert the prototype image (As ripster has shown, there is a slight optical difference between the white and black legends)



But, does the 0.015" look pretty damn good? Sure it does.  I don't think anything differently needs to be done - atleast for now.

But, please, please don't be talking about a 0.019" cutter... that's just silliness! :)
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:08:49
Quote from: cycloverid;545396
Sorry, I've been very busy with work lately.  I'd like to correct some misinformation.

Whatever we got was definitely not anything other than the 0.015" cutter.  They may have ran the cutter twice (making two identical cuts) - or just straight up the same as the prototype.  I can tell you this without even seeing the prototype.  Just look at the difference between my moogle kit and the RGB kit - it's massive.

A very quick and dirty image comparison (prototype from Melissa = white key):

(Attachment) 44041[/ATTACH]

Still not convinced?  Invert the prototype image (As ripster has shown, there is a slight optical difference between the white and black legends)



But, does the 0.015" look pretty damn good? Sure it does.  I don't think anything differently needs to be done - atleast for now.

But, please, please don't be talking about a 0.019" cutter... that's just silliness! :)

The legend on the finished key is definitely bigger -- i.e., it is the new SVG that you scaled.  The width of the lines looks fatter too to me, but that is probably just an optical illusion I guess.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:12:10
But hashbaz just said, while looking physically at both, that the final red esc was thicker and larger than the prototype...

He also ninja'd me...
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:17:27
I guess we all need to chip in to buy cherry's doubleshot machines and font. I wonder what they would quote... A few hundred thousand?
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Post by: cycloverid on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:18:59
ripster: I guess logically it's mostly a matter of light blooming. White will bloom the most (bleeding out into the key), and conversely a white key (or even just non-black) will bloom in such a way as to bleed into the black legend.  An image with less flash (and high resolution) would be far less biased.

hashbaz: To me it's pretty concrete.  Looking at the left and right image up there, they look damn near identical.  If you go further to compare those keys to my moogle kit, the difference is astounding.


WE'VE BEEN HAD! :)
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Post by: litster on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:54:10
Quote from: The_Ed;545417
I guess we all need to chip in to buy cherry's doubleshot machines and font. I wonder what they would quote... A few hundred thousand?

Why don't you call tomorrow and find out how much?  Then you can start another adoption drive.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 14 March 2012, 02:02:19
Quote from: cycloverid;545420
To me it's pretty concrete.  Looking at the left and right image up there, they look damn near identical.  If you go further to compare those keys to my moogle kit, the difference is astounding.


WE'VE BEEN HAD! :)


I photocopied them side by side.  The final key has a larger legend.
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 14 March 2012, 02:05:38
Quote from: hashbaz;545469
I photocopied them side by side.  The final key has a larger legend.

POST THE PIC! WE NEEDS THE PRECIOUS!
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 13:21:53
I don't have the image available now, but when I do I will post it.  I've also been quoting the wrong cutter size.  The prototype is 0.015" and the final keys are 0.018".  So the final Esc legend is both thicker and larger than the prototype.  All is well and as expected.

As for a 0.019" cutter, Melissa says they can get one but it will cost $40.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:15:39
$40 is chump change. It will make the moogle 3 even more accurate than the moogle RGBY + Esc.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:21:20
Quote from: The_Ed;546936
$40 is chump change. It will make the moogle 3 even more accurate than the moogle RGBY + Esc.

It's not just $40, though.  It's $40 plus $175 for new Ctrl/Alt/Shift legends (three variants of shift), which we get for free if we keep on with the 0.018" cutter.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:24:20
Something for the moogle 4 then?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:25:58
*shrug*

It's definitely something to keep in mind if we ever have another reason to redo Ctrl/Alt/Shift.  The Cherry adopt-a-legend project comes to mind, if it ends up happening.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:29:46
They would just need a few more adopters and to remember to buy a .019" cutter right?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:41:24
In theory yes, but we just found out that there's no volume discount for the legend fees like we had been led to believe, so I suspect a lot of people will drop one or more of their key sponsorships.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:49:11
Yeah and if we pay for it, they still own it...
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 16:02:54
Are you mad at 7bit for GB4? I never join those never-ending GBs so I can't get mad at him I guess.
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Post by: litster on Thu, 15 March 2012, 16:20:27
Never mad.  Just passionate.  So passionate to the point that might be misconstrued as mad.  :-)
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Post by: cycloverid on Thu, 15 March 2012, 22:47:13
You realize we're talking about a thousandth of an inch here...


Let's think about this mathematically:

I used a 0.020" cutter for the original moogle 2 kit lettering.  0.018" should be closer to the 0.020" cutter than the 0.015" cutter, right?  In the side-by-side image comparison I made, this just isn't the case... not even close.  The original moogle 2 kit is vastly thicker than the red escape is.


I made changes to the SVG for the final Esc legend, so the final version had alterations that could definitely change the appearance versus the prototype.



Well, I'll let you do it your way since you're leading this group buys now hashbaz... but it's just not adding up right.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:04:12
Maybe they fucked up and used a cutter that was bigger than .02"...
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:11:04
Quote from: cycloverid;547341
Well, I'll let you do it your way since you're leading this group buys now hashbaz... but it's just not adding up right.


I'm not following ... what's not adding up?  I'm not planning on doing the 0.019" cutter.  Are you saying you think the final Esc keys were made with the 0.015" cutter?  I don't have the prototype in front of me, and I definitely concede I could have made a mistake.  But they did look thicker to me.
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Post by: cycloverid on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:12:26
The Ed:  That would basically mean this whole process was all a bunch of trial and error for nothing, and my original values were correct... hmm

hashbaz:  Based on the image of the prototype vs. an image of the final red escape vs. an image of the moogle 2 kit, something isn't right.  The prototype and the final red escape thickness is far too similar.  Reread my last post for the mathematical incongruity of it.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:16:10
We get what we get. And if it's fucked, well tough luck.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:17:26
It's also possible that they did use the 0.018" cutter for the final keys, but it skewed small due to normal precision error.  When I asked Melissa about a 0.019" cutter, she responded that it wouldn't make a real difference because there were too many variables in the physical process of creating the keys for 0.001" to make it through precisely.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:22:50
.015" and .02" skewed big while .018" skewed small? Then that would mean that in another run the .018" could skew perfect with cherry?
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:25:29
Quote from: cycloverid;547372
The Ed:  That would basically mean this whole process was all a bunch of trial and error for nothing, and my original values were correct... hmm

hashbaz:  Based on the image of the prototype vs. an image of the final red escape vs. an image of the moogle 2 kit, something isn't right.  The prototype and the final red escape thickness is far too similar.  Reread my last post for the mathematical incongruity of it.

I'll ask Melissa if she can tell for sure based on the mold, or has a record of what the actual cutter used was.  I checked the order email and I did tell her to use 0.018".  I'm beginning to think you're right though.  The SVGs I'm working on now for moogle3 are set up such that they show how thick the cutter is vs. an overlay image of the real key, and 0.018 is looking too thick.
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Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:26:54
Quote from: The_Ed;547385
.015" and .02" skewed big while .018" skewed small? Then that would mean that in another run the .018" could skew perfect with cherry?

I guess?  These machines don't have infinite precision unfortunately.
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Post by: The_Ed on Thu, 15 March 2012, 23:30:06
Maybe different plastic temperatures causing different amounts of shrinkage?
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 00:09:09
Yes but both the cap and the shot through plastic are going to be different temperatures. And if different runs shoot different temperature plastic there could be a variance right?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 00:12:18
ABS can shrink up to .007" per inch of plastic according to google.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 00:20:30
Kony? You've lost me...
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 March 2012, 00:30:31
Quote from: ripster;547461
nvm

The OP is already pissed at me.

I'm not pissed at you at all.  I made a simple request, and you are free to ignore it, though obviously I think you shouldn't.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 00:38:12
There are only 2 people that I don't like on GH. Everyone can probably guess the first.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 00:47:01
I don't even know who/what Kony is. Tsangan is #1 on my list.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:10:47
I must be number 2.
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:15:16
Quote from: litster;547501
I must be number 2.

Why would I not like you? What have you ever done to piss me off?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:34:16
If you don't, you should be.  I gave you **** for your non-stepped, off-center stem capslock.  And tsangan and hashbaz are my buddies.  Your enemy's buddy is your enemy.
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:45:21
You gave me flak for 1 thing. Big deal. Both you and Hashbaz are alright in my book, same goes for ripster.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: litster on Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:51:05
:grouphug:
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:52:11
Quote from: The_Ed;547532
You gave me flak for 1 thing. Big deal. Both you and Hashbaz are alright in my book, same goes for ripster.

:thumb:
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Post by: Reptile on Fri, 16 March 2012, 02:35:44
Quote from: The_Ed;547484
I don't even know who/what Kony is. Tsangan is #1 on my list.

What did he do?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Fri, 16 March 2012, 04:40:22
I got them today – at last! :D RGB and ESC look amazing! Now I'm looking forward to the new yellow and Moogle kit 3!
Thanks again for the great job!
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Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 16 March 2012, 08:52:45
Quote from: Grond;547633
I got them today – at last! :D RGB and ESC look amazing! Now I'm looking forward to the new yellow and Moogle kit 3!
Thanks again for the great job!

Wow that took forever.  Glad you like them!
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Post by: Mysteric on Fri, 16 March 2012, 10:57:40
I was extremely surprised at how fast mine arrived, think it was 3 or 4 days from US to UK :D Still waiting on my keypuller from qtan; It's been 10 working days and no sign yet :(
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 16 March 2012, 10:58:46
Quote from: Mackem;547840
I was extremely surprised at how fast mine arrived, think it was 3 or 4 days from US to UK :D Still waiting on my keypuller from qtan; It's been 10 working days and no sign yet :(

Stuff can be pretty slow from qtan, it will get there though.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Mysteric on Fri, 16 March 2012, 11:00:08
Quote from: lightsout714;547842
Stuff can be pretty slow from qtan, it will get there though.

Yeah, I know, I'm just anxious for it to come so I can finally remove all of the keycaps properly, give it a good clean and put my RGBY kit on, faux Esc key and my novelty keys :D
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Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 16 March 2012, 23:54:01
Quote from: ripster;547480
Kony?

Is this Kony?

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/16/10721745-report-invisible-children-co-founder-detained-by-police-charity-made-kony-2012-video (http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/16/10721745-report-invisible-children-co-founder-detained-by-police-charity-made-kony-2012-video)
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 March 2012, 16:26:06
Just got word back from Melissa.  Turns out cycloverid and I are both right, ha!  The Esc key is not 0.018", but it's also probably slightly thicker than 0.015".

Turns out the 's' in the Esc key came out as a blob at 0.018" so they bumped it down, probably to 0.017" or 0.016".  I responded asking her if there's a way to be sure which cutter was actually used.  She also reiterated that at the small gradations of scale we're talking about, the cutting and molding process is not exact enough to map a 0.01X" cutter to a final key line width measuring 0.01X".
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 March 2012, 16:43:18
Quote from: ripster;550826
Whatever happened to these then.  Melissa's error or ours?
(Attachment) 44946[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 44947[/ATTACH]

I mean, if the font's line width changes randomly how can we get Signature Plastics Key Round 10 to be perfect?

The Control keys in your picture are from the second round moogle set, which was 0.020".  That is clearly too thick, even given the variability of the cut/mold processes.  So I call that our error, though error isn't really the right word.  We've learned a lot about this process between moogle2 and RGBY.  Hopefully moogle3 will be as good as we can get with SP's process.
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 March 2012, 22:49:54
FWIW here is a scan of the photocopy I made.  It's pretty clear from this image that the final key's legend is both thicker and larger.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]44970[/ATTACH]

edit: that's what she said
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Post by: The_Ed on Mon, 19 March 2012, 23:01:27
Is it just me or does the "s" look completely different?
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 19 March 2012, 23:18:42
Yeah it does.  I bet cycloverid tweaked it when he scaled the SVG larger after the prototype was done.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: Grond on Tue, 20 March 2012, 16:47:23
Talking about the matte finishing – I bet someone wrote about this before – I noticed it changes a lot from key to key. On my set, Esc and right shift seem to be the roughest, while control, alt and super seem to be much smoother. I'm not complaining about this, as it's hardly noticeable until you touch the keys, I just wonder why?
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 20 March 2012, 18:45:13
Hmm, I just realized ESC is rough, too. For me, both (ansi) shifts are rougher than the modifiers. are you ISO?

I really like the rougher keys.
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Post by: cycloverid on Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:15:21
I definitely tweaked the final ESC SVG a bit, including possibly scaling the legends up in size (it's all a little hazy to me now).

To me, the thicknesses look basically the same when inverting the black legends:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45148[/ATTACH]
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:34:13
Um, yeah.  Turns out you were right all along.  Melissa told me today that they ended up going with the 0.015" cutter rather than 0.016" like she thought before.  Annoying that she didn't tell me this earlier.  I think I will ask for the Enter prototype for moogle3 in 0.016".
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:05:26
I'm betting that the closest to cherry will be .016" or .017".
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:07:41
The bummer, though, is that if we go for fatter legends on the new moogle keys, the RGBY Ctrl/Alt/Shift legends will look different. :-|
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:09:29
Yes but if the new keys finally nail cherry thickness they won't have to be redone for moogle 4. The RGBY keys would be the only ones that would have to be redone for moogle 4.
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:10:00
this is a problem that seems like it should be addressed when/if it actually bugs someone
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:11:32
The legend thicknesses have already been bugging people. There are probably a few hundred posts about it...
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:21:33
Quote from: The_Ed;552117
Yes but if the new keys finally nail cherry thickness they won't have to be redone for moogle 4. The RGBY keys would be the only ones that would have to be redone for moogle 4.

But in the meantime moogle3 is sullied with inconsistent legends. :(
Title: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:28:56
Quote from: The_Ed;552119
The legend thicknesses have already been bugging people. There are probably a few hundred posts about it...
(and not just people with asperger's...)
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Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:36:52
Quote from: mkawa;552139
(and not just people with asperger's...)

Unless hashbaz and cycloverid also have aspergers...
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 21 March 2012, 05:28:09
Quote
Hmm, I just realized ESC is rough, too. For me, both (ansi) shifts are rougher than the modifiers. are you ISO?

I really like the rougher keys.

Yes, ISO left shift is not as rough as the right one. And I also prefere the rougher keys, I think they will take longer to wear out.
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Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 21 March 2012, 06:28:13
My guess is that ISO left shift is the same mold as the 1.25x modifier keys.  The roughness might be varied by row?
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Post by: Grond on Wed, 21 March 2012, 06:39:53
Maybe so, but still doesn't make much sense to me. Aren't there several matte options available from SP?