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Title: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:52:22





GB is on hold for now due to us not having enough time to run it.









Hello geekhackers!

(http://i.imgur.com/9QmheJ5.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74077.0)

This is an interest check for GMK SoWaRe. This group buy would be run by myself, with help from several GeekHack friends, who would act as USA proxies to assist with keeping the costs down. This started as a SoWaRe replica set, however along the way vesper and I have fallen in love with the beige alphas. This can still be a replica set; however, I would like to gather interest from the community.
 
Picture of an old mockup: The current mockup is BEIGE, however we are open to the original Soware, which is light grey. Please express your interest in whichever you prefer!
(http://puu.sh/jkZLt/729190b4a7.jpg)

Unfortunately, Christoph from GMK is currently on holidays for the next two weeks, so I cannot receive the mockup that I was waiting for.
Changes that will be made to the above mockup are:
-            OG Cherry legends (Icons and Legends with full words written out)
-            Windows 7 keys in the same teal as the alphas
-            Remove one short shift (there are two in the mockup)
-      Windowed keys perhaps?
 
Please fill out the survey found at this link if you are interested: http://goo.gl/forms/iAHKNTGT8s (http://goo.gl/forms/iAHKNTGT8s) Please give us feedback now, so that we can get a new mockup when GMK is back.
I am interested in knowing if you would like us to run a full GMK Soware set, or just a mod pack to accompany massdrop’s set. If you are interested in the beige alphas, or would prefer the replica grey set.
 
Any questions or comments please discuss below! As soon as I have an updated mockup, I will update the OP.


Many thanks to OTD for the original SoWaRe set, without them this wouldn't be possible.
 
<3 from Byker and VesperSAINT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - REPLICA/INSPIRED?!
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:53:59
Please keep in mind, this is an INTEREST CHECK. NOT A GROUP BUY.

There is nothing in motion right now except just gathering interest.

There is no guarantee this will happen, or not happen, for a long time from now.

THIS GB WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITHOUT THE BLESSING/CONSENT OF THE ORIGINAL MAKERS.

If they do not want this to happen, a REPLICA will not happen from us. Period.

However, this does not mean something else inspired, or just something different, might not happen.

Please also note, in the case this set ENDS UP NOT BEING A REPLICA, IT WILL NOT BE CALLED SOWARE.

We have no plans on doing SP at this point in time.


We really do appreciate the feedback and interest. Thank you ~

Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: filphil on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:54:59
Oh yes please

I'll fill out the form when you get those new mockups.  I'll eye this thread like a hawk.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:56:12
Please add LED windowed key caps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:56:50
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:58:22
Please add LED windowed key caps.

MOQ is very high I believe 300? At least when I asked about it.

Massdrop didn't add RGB to maximize their profits..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: filphil on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:58:53
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:01:37
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: filphil on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:02:38
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

That's why we're here buddy! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: byker on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:06:53
Please fill out the survey now if you can, since we won't be receiving new mockups for 2-3 weeks and would like to be able to use feedback received now, for the next mockup!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:08:34
Looks so much better than MD's, of course I think CC is closer to OG SoWare than N9.

Another possibility is doing the RGBY mods in CC and running that with the Alphas.  Since a **** ton of people bought Hyperfuse, if someone wanted to do SoWare instead, they'd only really have to swap the Alphas.  That restricts the number of boards you could use the set on, but makes for a cheaper set.  Just an idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: uJalled on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:09:19
cool! please let this happen
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:11:19
Keep in mind, guys. The current mockup for the alpha color is BEIGE (NOT GRAY). We actually like how the beige looks with the blue legends.

Of course, we are open to discussion :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:13:46
Looks so much better than MD's, of course I think CC is closer to OG SoWare than N9.

Another possibility is doing the CMYK mods in CC and running that with the Alphas.  Since a **** ton of people bought Hyperfuse, if someone wanted to do SoWare instead, they'd only really have to swap the Alphas.  That restricts the number of boards you could use the set on, but makes for a cheaper set.  Just an idea.

wait what do you mean just swap the alphas with hyperfuse, they don't have rbg legend mods or yellow arrows?

Keep in mind, guys. The current mockup for the alpha color is BEIGE (NOT GRAY). We actually like how the beige looks with the blue legends.

Of course, we are open to discussion :)

gross
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: lunr on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:18:34
interested. i prefer the grey like the originals to be honest :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:19:47
Keep in mind, guys. The current mockup for the alpha color is BEIGE (NOT GRAY). We actually like how the beige looks with the blue legends.

Of course, we are open to discussion :)

gross

(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/s4s/image/1386/76/1386761375211.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: shower_king on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:29:04
just one question is when this will happen and how long last for?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:33:02
just one question is when this will happen and how long last for?

I would say it really depends on how much interest we get in a certain amount of time. If enough interest, we'll probably move onto doing it as soon as GMK allows. There really shouldn't be any delays on our part... HOPEFULLY :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:36:00
you'll need another name if you're going with beige
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:39:49
you'll need another name if you're going with beige

That's definitely something that can be done :3

We'll leave that for when/if beige is the decided color ~
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:49:16
I prefer light grey to keep it SoWaRe :) I also am +1 for windowed keys and the MOQ is 250, as I have a email from Christoph saying that it is 250.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: aznairjordan on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:22:03
Interested! I would like an exact replica but I would buy either option
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:31:15
I'm always looking for a keyset with a DE pack, so if you'd be willing to try and include one I'd jump right on.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:32:47
I think CC is closer to OG SoWare than N9.

I agree.

Also, +1 for grey  &  +1 for windowed caps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 August 2015, 02:21:09
I look forward to this byker and Vesper.

No doubt you have my 100% support :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 01 August 2015, 03:00:41
Anything cyan = <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 August 2015, 03:27:31
I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 01 August 2015, 03:56:16
I look forward to this byker and Vesper.

No doubt you have my 100% support :)

:-* :-* :-*


I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.

I'm in y-... :-[
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: shower_king on Sat, 01 August 2015, 04:33:57
definitely in.
As for me , i prefer to beige rather than light grey, just because grey match with Triumph Adler and Hyper Fuse well but beige match this soware more well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 01 August 2015, 04:38:02
I'd be in for light grey. Keepin it OG.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 01 August 2015, 04:45:54
Looks so much better than MD's, of course I think CC is closer to OG SoWare than N9.

I agree. I also prefer light grey alphas, to remain faithful to the original SoWaRe. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: luckyryan333 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 04:49:15
I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.

That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 06:11:31
Hot stuff! The legends are a big improvement over the MD version. I think that grey alphas would work better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: calmfries on Sat, 01 August 2015, 06:19:20
Only interested with grey mods like the original set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: jbondeson on Sat, 01 August 2015, 08:17:48
Not a big beige person myself. I'd definitely be in for original SoWaRe though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 01 August 2015, 08:24:59
I want this set bad
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: romevi on Sat, 01 August 2015, 08:40:46
Would definitely like LED windows!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:38:10
Thanks for using the capslock symbol :)

Doesn't get enough love
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: romevi on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:44:52
Just realized: you're using the correct 0 on the numpad! Never had a GMK set, so I don't know if that's standard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:00:52
I prefer light grey to beige. If it's light grey I'll 100% be buying a set or two.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:01:50
I know this was mentioned, but I would prefer text + symbol over just symbols
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: billnye on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:14:38
Definitely in for this over MD's set.

+1 for light gray.
+1 for vesper and ian :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:20:55
Please no symbol capslock. I'm somewhat ambivalent about this set. Would be nice to see shots of colour chips, rather than just the notoriously inaccurate GMK mockup.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:40:21
Thanks for using the capslock symbol :)

Doesn't get enough love

If you want to be true to SoWaRe though, this set should use text+symbol mods!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: wakko on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:42:53
+1 for text mods please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:09:29
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:21:35

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) would have to be a suitable alternative.

I believe that byker did mention the mockup is a preliminary mockup, and the base colours of the alphas are to be debated.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:24:59
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:27:04
After staring at my Wyse caps, Dolch caps, and pic of gmk colors, I think that 2B might be the best choice for mods and maybe 2M for alphas.  GMK doesn't appear to have much in the way of light greys. 

Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: byker on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:29:06
We originally wanted to start the interest check with two final mockups, one inspired set (beige), one replica set (grey). The only reason that we started the interest check before we have final mockups is to let people know our intentions of running it, as there is a massdrop group buy for a similar set. If poeple were buying that, then we wouldn't run this. However, from interest so far, it looks like people want a GMK Soware run by geekhackers. The other benefit of starting it early is that we can get feedback on what everyone wants to see in this set. And if you read the interest check, we aren't saying this is a beige set, it could be if people like it, or it could be replica soware, but unfortunately that is all we have the mockup for right now.


All we ask is that you let us know via the google form what you would prefer, so that we can change this set to best fit GH's wants!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Blackehart on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:33:07
Hooray!

That "thing" on MD is an abomination.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: olijuice on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:33:39
I like the current mockup in beige. It looks really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Limewirelord on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:18:51
Beige would be better mostly because we'll already have had the alphas via Hyperfuse and eventually Massdrop's "Sky Dolch" set.  Might as well get something we haven't gotten yet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:27:09
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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.
Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:42:37
More
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.
Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Lol wat?

How many times did I say I liked the set?  And exactly where in the op does it say anyone but me can say what they think about beige vs gray?

And either way rgb doesn't make soware.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:47:03
More
I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.
Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Uh. These IC are usually a place to input your criticism so when it goes production a good percentage of people are happy. Most OPs encourage it. If not, they'd try to run the GB already.
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Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:52:02
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Den441 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:53:57
I have a soware set and can tell you it uses the SP colors BBQ for the legends on the mods and BBJ for the legends on the alphas. GMK doesn't have colors like that so this would indeed be an "inspired" set if it uses UN6037. Nothing wrong with that, but UN6037 has much more green in it than those SP colors. The render looks awesome, but I don't think it accurately depicts UN6037. Even so, I still think this set would look good.  I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

edit - I think if people truly want a SoWaRe replica, they should just use SP. Maybe go with the Cherry legends this time and take the WYSE out of the equation. I think that would look great too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: byker on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:59:23

We just finished criticizing Massdrop's set because it was true SoWaRe and everyone wanted a legit replica, then this IC comes out and isn't a replica. Why is it called SoWaRe?
 

We originally wanted to start the interest check with two final mockups, one inspired set (beige), one replica set (grey). The only reason that we started the interest check before we have final mockups is to let people know our intentions of running it, as there is a massdrop group buy for a similar set. If poeple were buying that, then we wouldn't run this. However, from interest so far, it looks like people want a GMK Soware run by geekhackers. The other benefit of starting it early is that we can get feedback on what everyone wants to see in this set. And if you read the interest check, we aren't saying this is a beige set, it could be if people like it, or it could be replica soware, but unfortunately that is all we have the mockup for right now.


All we ask is that you let us know via the google form what you would prefer, so that we can change this set to best fit GH's wants!


As I said earlier moose, the only mockup I have to offer right now is not the replica mockup, as that would likely require custom colours. This IC is to determine if the community would prefer a replica set or an inspired set. It is called SoWaRe because we are willing to run a replica SoWaRe set, or a set inspired by SoWaRe, in which case we would change the name. If GMK wasn't away I would have waited until I had a replica mockup, but unfortuntaely there is a 2 week wait, so I wanted to start this to gather interest
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:06:02
I personally find the beige ugly. Replica soware or bust
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:25:04
I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.

lol

I just read the magic 3 letters in the topic and was sold  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:32:37
Gray and please no front printed legends...please!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:49:50
After staring at my Wyse caps, Dolch caps, and pic of gmk colors, I think that 2B might be the best choice for mods and maybe 2M for alphas.  GMK doesn't appear to have much in the way of light greys.

From what I can tell, CC for the modifiers and 2M for the alphas might be the closes match. This is pure speculation though... :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:01:41
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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.
Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Lol wat?

How many times did I say I liked the set?  And exactly where in the op does it say anyone but me can say what they think about beige vs gray?

And either way rgb doesn't make soware.
I apologize for misunderstanding your response.  However, RGB and Yellow arrows are parts of the original soware.

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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?


They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.
Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Uh. These IC are usually a place to input your criticism so when it goes production a good percentage of people are happy. Most OPs encourage it. If not, they'd try to run the GB already.

I understand that, and agree.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:09:12
Filled the survey. Not a fan of the beige alphas, but would definitely buy a true GMK replica.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:22:41
After staring at my Wyse caps, Dolch caps, and pic of gmk colors, I think that 2B might be the best choice for mods and maybe 2M for alphas.  GMK doesn't appear to have much in the way of light greys.

From what I can tell, CC for the modifiers and 2M for the alphas might be the closes match. This is pure speculation though... :blank:

Yeah, the perfect shade is probably half way between CC and 2B  :))  Either way, I'd be in for a set or two!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: archer on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:17:27
Survey submitted!

+1 for light grey alphas

SoWaRe has always been my fav colorway; I'd love to see a true GMK replica! (I'd buy several sets :D)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:46:35
Thanks for the passionate feedback in this Interest Check, guys :)

So far, Grey does seem to be the more popular pick right now, even though Beige is not too far off as well ~

There could be more possible options in the near future with further interest, so please keep giving us feedback!

Please do fill out the Google survey, if you are interested ~ Even though we are reading everyone's posts, it's much easier to keep track when it's documented in there :3

We greatly appreciate it!


~ I'll try to get back to ppl's individual questions later tonight when I have more free time ~

Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 01 August 2015, 17:29:22
I would love to start seeing sets being made to fit the real force. I know it's pretty much impossible since GMK doesn't make 6u spacebars (that I know of) but with Bunnys sliders coming out soon... Need some GMK on dat beast.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 August 2015, 17:39:59
I have a soware set and can tell you it uses the SP colors BBQ for the legends on the mods and BBJ for the legends on the alphas. GMK doesn't have colors like that so this would indeed be an "inspired" set if it uses UN6037. Nothing wrong with that, but UN6037 has much more green in it than those SP colors. The render looks awesome, but I don't think it accurately depicts UN6037. Even so, I still think this set would look good.  I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

Thank you for the colour codes!

I just happen to have both SP and GMK colour-rings, and could definitely lend a hand to byker with the colour selection.

Edit: Den, do you know what are the base colour codes for the alphas and mods?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:18:11
Just spent some time comparing the colours, so we can hopefully end the discussion on UN6037 being too different for SoWaRe.

UN6037 on the left, BBQ on the right:
(http://i.imgur.com/8JUnCym.jpg)

Additionally, thanks to ghostjuggernaut, who happens to own both:
(http://i.imgur.com/YHxNkOX.jpg?1)

I'll let the photos do the talking.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe
Post by: Sent on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:39:19
I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.

I'd be in for light grey. Keepin it OG.

What mah peeps said. :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:40:50
Just spent some time comparing the colours, so we can hopefully end the discussion on UN6037 being too different for SoWaRe.

UN6037 on the left, BBQ on the right:
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(http://i.imgur.com/8JUnCym.jpg)


Additionally, thanks to ghostjuggernaut, who happens to own both:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YHxNkOX.jpg?1)


I'll let the photos do the talking.

Thanks for the photos of the legend colors!  What are the close matches you see to GSX (alphas) and GTD (mods)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Den441 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:46:23
Just spent some time comparing the colours, so we can hopefully end the discussion on UN6037 being too different for SoWaRe.

UN6037 on the left, BBQ on the right:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8JUnCym.jpg)


Additionally, thanks to ghostjuggernaut, who happens to own both:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YHxNkOX.jpg?1)


I'll let the photos do the talking.

Wow it almost looks like the same color on my monitor from those pics. I still say UN6037 is a little bit greener though in person just looking at it. I think you could use UN6037 for the legends on the mods though. It is close enough there that it does not justify the cost of a custom color. I can't think of the GMK color code used on the Dolch alphas, but those Dolch alphas match my soware mods. I'm pretty sure that was what was used in the render for the mods already. However, you would still need something for the BBJ on the legends for the alphas. I don't think UN6037 will cut it on those, and you'll end up with alphas that look very similar to what feng has on his GMK cyan set.
edit - Karura I don't know the Sp color codes for the mods and the alphas, but I do know the the mods for soware match my GMK Dolch spacebar/alphas almost perfectly like I said above. The only thing left to figure out is the color of the alphas. I will try but it is hard for me to discern SP greys from each other
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Den441 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 20:20:41
Ok, so I found out that dolch alpha color is "CC." So UN6037 on CC for the mods....that is pretty much a dead ringer. N9 is used in the render for the mods, so I think that is too dark. That is also the same color on the dolch mods.

Then for the alphas, some color like SP''s BBJ on some color like SP's GSX. I'm about 80% sure it is GSX that was used. I know it isn't GSL because that is what round 4 retro used (I own it) and it is lighter than my soware alphas. GMK might have a light grey that you can use, but I don't know about BBJ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 20:50:40
I'm honestly having a hard time following all the color codes being tossed around here, but I will say that I really like the idea of being able to mix and match these with GMK Hyperfuse, if that's possible while staying reasonably close to the original SoWaRe.

As for beige vs. light gray, I don't have a preference.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: zabuza1997 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 22:34:00
Light grey and you got me in!!!!  :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Den441 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 23:50:48
Hmm I just remembered that GMK Hyperfuse also uses UN6037 on CC for the mods. I haven't seen a picture of that set yet, but they should look almost exactly like the soware mods given how closely UN6037 mimics BBQ. You could also use 2M like hyperfuse for the alphas' light grey.

Indeed, that would make this share many things with GMK hyperfuse. The difference would be that this set would only use that mod color scheme for some of the mods because of the RGBY on CC for the shift keys, bottom row, and arrow cluster. And of course the other differences are the solid F-Stripe and the BBJ custom color. I think it would be different enough personally. Plus, the original hyperfuse dcs was pretty similar to the original soware which came before it. Even back then the sets shared mods and alphas of the same colors. So now everything comes full circle! That is my opinion on the colors for this set. If that custom color and the associated MOQ is viable, then the color scheme  I talked about should be a 95% replica of the original SoWaRe. Of course there is no "WYSE" font, so it is more like "Sora Cherry".

Unfortunately the custom color may not be viable, but if that happens then I would still like to see an "inspired" set that takes some risks color-wise to make up for it.  I promise I'm done talking about color codes now :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 August 2015, 23:52:47
Hmm I just remembered that GMK Hyperfuse also uses UN6037 on CC for the mods. I haven't seen a picture of that set yet, but they should look almost exactly like the soware mods given how closely UN6037 mimics BBQ.

Ergo my statement:

Another possibility is doing the RGBY mods in CC and running that with the Alphas.  Since a **** ton of people bought Hyperfuse, if someone wanted to do SoWare instead, they'd only really have to swap the Alphas.  That restricts the number of boards you could use the set on, but makes for a cheaper set.  Just an idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:00:09
i think they should go with another colorway period. hyperfuse is already close to soware as is.

orange crush orange crush orange crush!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:02:36
Not a fan of orange crush, but still would love to see some new colorways. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:03:24
well you drink watermelon mint
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:03:57
well you drink watermelon mint

And you drive a Ford.  I guess both of us make some poor life decisions.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:04:36
well you drink watermelon mint

And you drive a Ford.  I guess both of us make some poor life decisions.

and you drive the asian ford
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:05:43
well you drink watermelon mint

And you drive a Ford.  I guess both of us make some poor life decisions.

and you drive the asian ford

Which, apparently, has some sort of ****ty driver attraction field :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:06:51
CHECK MATE

dude the way u get into accidents u need to get your insurance with no deductible
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:09:41
CHECK MATE

dude the way u get into accidents u need to your insurance with no deductible

I have literally never had an accident until recently, then I had two ****ing dumbasses cause them.  This last one beyond pissed me off since he's apparently blind and deaf.

I'm seriously considering selling my car and getting a ****ty beater if there's one more accident.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:10:39
CHECK MATE

dude the way u get into accidents u need to your insurance with no deductible

I have literally never had an accident until recently, then I had two ****ing dumbasses cause them.  This last one beyond pissed me off since he's apparently blind and deaf.

I'm seriously considering selling my car and getting a ****ty beater if there's one more accident.
oh no. that's the last step of hipsterism.

the beater car.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: HelixDan on Sun, 02 August 2015, 05:18:11
here is the question

U9 is light grey?? or other is light grey??

which one is the light grey?  :-X :-X :-X :-X


(http://i.imgur.com/94CxFfr.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 02 August 2015, 09:31:36
Another +1 for, if you're going to call it SoWaRe to use the right colors...

No problem w/ the colors you selected...(I wouldn't get it with beige not that my opinion should matter) but don't call it SoWaRe...call it something else..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:38:57
here is the question

U9 is light grey?? or other is light grey??

which one is the light grey?  :-X :-X :-X :-X





U9 is the beige colour shown in the mockup in the OP. If we chose to go with light grey, than the final colour has yet to be decided on.


Another +1 for, if you're going to call it SoWaRe to use the right colors...

No problem w/ the colors you selected...(I wouldn't get it with beige not that my opinion should matter) but don't call it SoWaRe...call it something else..
 


We understand this, and would never run a different keyset while calling it SoWaRe. This IC is to determine if enough people want a group buy for this, and if they do, would they prefer SoWaRe, or a similar keyset (unnamed).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: dutC4 on Sun, 02 August 2015, 18:08:26
Render looks amazing with beige so that's what I voted for, it reminds me of a PS1 controller. I hope there can be a second 2.25" shift included or in a kit so FC660 owners wouldn't have to buy two full sets  :'(
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/PSone-Console-Set-NoLCD.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: user 18 on Sun, 02 August 2015, 19:00:02
Render looks amazing with beige so that's what I voted for, it reminds me of a PS1 controller. I hope there can be a second 2.25" shift included or in a kit so FC660 owners wouldn't have to buy two full sets  :'(
Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/PSone-Console-Set-NoLCD.jpg)


Note that GMK renders are notoriously colour-inaccurate. The colours in the render do not reflect what the set would actually look like.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:29:39
Render looks amazing with beige so that's what I voted for, it reminds me of a PS1 controller. I hope there can be a second 2.25" shift included or in a kit so FC660 owners wouldn't have to buy two full sets  :'(
Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/PSone-Console-Set-NoLCD.jpg)


Note that GMK renders are notoriously colour-inaccurate. The colours in the render do not reflect what the set would actually look like.

Yeah the GMK renders tend to be pretty awful
With UN6037 it looks like the colour was picked by Helen Keller
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Armagedda on Mon, 03 August 2015, 01:38:54
Everybody seems to be getting pretty worked up over this. I think both options, replica and inspired, look great and would consider buying either.

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over the matter though? Was SoWaRe some sort of iconic set? If so why are you guys getting so agitated? If you don't own one of the original sets, this set won't be the original either. If it's purism to keep the name of a colour set true to its meaning within the community I get it, but I don't see why anyone would be getting antsy about a similar set being made with beige in the place of grey.

Am I missing something? Was SoWaRe a prestigious set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:26:12
Everybody seems to be getting pretty worked up over this. I think both options, replica and inspired, look great and would consider buying either.

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over the matter though? Was SoWaRe some sort of iconic set? If so why are you guys getting so agitated? If you don't own one of the original sets, this set won't be the original either. If it's purism to keep the name of a colour set true to its meaning within the community I get it, but I don't see why anyone would be getting antsy about a similar set being made with beige in the place of grey.

Am I missing something? Was SoWaRe a prestigious set?

The community takes its colorways seriously. There are people out there that have spent a lot of time and effort developing their own colorways such as Matteo and Bunny. There is sort of a code of respect that says first of all you should respect the original designers wishes surrounding the sets and do not tamper with other people's designs.

SoWaRe is pretty close to legendary as it is a relatively old set and there is not much of it around

I'm fairly new though so I might miss out on some other reasons though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Armagedda on Mon, 03 August 2015, 05:07:56
Everybody seems to be getting pretty worked up over this. I think both options, replica and inspired, look great and would consider buying either.

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over the matter though? Was SoWaRe some sort of iconic set? If so why are you guys getting so agitated? If you don't own one of the original sets, this set won't be the original either. If it's purism to keep the name of a colour set true to its meaning within the community I get it, but I don't see why anyone would be getting antsy about a similar set being made with beige in the place of grey.

Am I missing something? Was SoWaRe a prestigious set?

The community takes its colorways seriously. There are people out there that have spent a lot of time and effort developing their own colorways such as Matteo and Bunny. There is sort of a code of respect that says first of all you should respect the original designers wishes surrounding the sets and do not tamper with other people's designs.

SoWaRe is pretty close to legendary as it is a relatively old set and there is not much of it around

I'm fairly new though so I might miss out on some other reasons though

Yeah I know about the passion for design around here. Just wasn't sure why everyone was getting so intense about this set in particular.

I can see it though, it's a damn nice set and I want some of it too (SoWaRe that is). Will be interested to see how this plan turns out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: StormyMonday on Mon, 03 August 2015, 08:41:15
I'm definitely a fan of the beige. If the gray looks anything like the version on MD, that would be unfortunate.

I'm also not a big fan of the icons. Would prefer old school text, or text + icons.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 03 August 2015, 09:11:00
I'm definitely a fan of the beige. If the gray looks anything like the version on MD, that would be unfortunate.

I'm also not a big fan of the icons. Would prefer old school text, or text + icons.

I can back you up on wanting the old school text, that would be awesome
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 03 August 2015, 10:02:02
I LOVE this set, would join 100%, I love those arrows, that R3 Control

Some suggestions:

1) 1.25 "Control" as "Ctrl" - so it doesn't clash with the R3 1.75 "Control" when they are used together, I use the 1.75 Control's to actually control stuff for example, while the "Ctrl" is for signals, I don't know what others think, but regardless off my usage, "Ctrl" also seems more elegant
2) Lined F/J's please :) (as extras, alternatives)
3) (selfish) Side prints suck in general
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Mon, 03 August 2015, 10:29:57
Yeah I know about the passion for design around here. Just wasn't sure why everyone was getting so intense about this set in particular.

I can see it though, it's a damn nice set and I want some of it too (SoWaRe that is). Will be interested to see how this plan turns out.

I was actually going to put in my post it is an iconic set...  A GMK version of this set though would actually top the original though...plus some added keys to add some other layouts...

I mean, SoWaRe sets are hard to find and highly desirable....but one that is better (GMK) and more flexibility?  autobuy...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:39:27
I voted for Beige. The current greys look too much like Hyperfuse. Which will almost feel like rebuying the set, plus I think it would steal some the the light Hyperuse has.

Though a replica of the OG would be dope too. :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: pmh1410 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 03:03:25
i vote text legend like that, Ctrl + Alt + shift is RGB color
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Tue, 04 August 2015, 14:37:37
Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: calmfries on Tue, 04 August 2015, 14:48:12

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.
Seems like things are moving. Just hope that it can stay as OG as possible(I'm aware things will be a little different with GMK of course). If want to do something different (color), as well just name it something else since it's not exactly a replica in that case. Just my 2 cent.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Tue, 04 August 2015, 14:50:45

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.
Seems like things are moving. Just hope that it can stay as OG as possible(I'm aware things will be a little different with GMK of course). If want to do something different (color), as well just name it something else since it's not exactly a replica in that case. Just my 2 cent.

We understand this, and would not call it soware, if it isn't soware.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: calmfries on Tue, 04 August 2015, 15:10:10


Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.
Seems like things are moving. Just hope that it can stay as OG as possible(I'm aware things will be a little different with GMK of course). If want to do something different (color), as well just name it something else since it's not exactly a replica in that case. Just my 2 cent.

We understand this, and would not call it soware, if it isn't soware.
Glad to hear that. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 05:14:27
Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.

Let's hope that most of those 110 people will also commit to joining the GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Limewirelord on Wed, 05 August 2015, 10:40:43
I'd commit as long as it's not relatively soon.  Miami Nights, now this and SkiData?  My wallet can only take so much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:18:48
I'd commit as long as it's not relatively soon.  Miami Nights, now this and SkiData?  My wallet can only take so much.

This.

There needs to be some kind of GH rule or something which dictates how many GMK GBs there can be in one year.
My wallet can take only so much...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:39:03
I'd commit as long as it's not relatively soon.  Miami Nights, now this and SkiData?  My wallet can only take so much.

This.

There needs to be some kind of GH rule or something which dictates how many GMK GBs there can be in one year.
My wallet can take only so much...
This is the first year with so many full sets. Before most people used SP
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:41:18
Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:45:24
Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.
DSA usually stays away from here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:50:52
Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.
DSA usually stays away from here.

In 2013 we had Retro, Hyperfuse, Dolch and those were just the big ones I remember.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 11:58:23
Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.
DSA usually stays away from here.

In 2013 we had Retro, Hyperfuse, Dolch and those were just the big ones I remember.
I am talking recently :P But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:12:49
I am talking recently :P But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.
Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads
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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:22:21
I am talking recently :P But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.
Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads
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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?

Wow, SA was overlapped pretty quickly.
I started showing interest in keyboards a bit before the DSA era, but nothing serious until just a few months ago. SA was still kind of all the rage, but ever since I've been diving into Cherry keycaps it seems most of my money is going toward GMK. The only SA GB I've done is Round 5a. I just barely missed SA Retro, but now I'm not so sure I want it anymore.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:28:46
I am talking recently :P But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.
Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads
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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?
DCS should be in there somewhere, unless it was popular before 2k13
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:36:48
DCS has just kinda been there throughout. Much maligned ("Cherry or BUST!"), it's been the default for all small scale or low cost productions.

I guess I left it out because DCS usually isn't looked at as a selling point of a set. Sooo, yeah I'm claiming Artistic license!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:39:46
I am talking recently :P But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.
Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads
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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?
DCS should be in there somewhere, unless it was popular before 2k13

DCS has just kinda been there throughout. Much maligned ("Cherry or BUST!"), it's been the default for all small scale or low cost productions.

I guess I left it out because DCS usually isn't looked at as a selling point of a set. Sooo, yeah I'm claiming Artistic license!  :rolleyes:

Yep, DCS used to be basically the only option before (and even during the beginning of) 2013, and simply lost "market share" to the other profiles.  It's still there, lurking in the shadows, waiting to strike back.

If I had my way though, we'd all use GMK til we die.  >:D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:07:13
If I haven't put down interest already, count me in, brilliant set.  :eek:

Both the grey or beige would look fantastic. I'm down for anything. this is a set that I need in my life.


*after some thought, I'm leaning towards grey, it just does it for me, a bit more...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:37:52
I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 05 August 2015, 14:43:23
I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.
I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.


Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: njbair on Wed, 05 August 2015, 15:02:51
I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.
I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

There's really no reason GMK caps need to cost what they cost, other than the fact that they're being made in EU instead of Asia. That is to say, it's totally possible for JT caps to be just as good for much less money.

Time will tell...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 21:41:24
I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.
I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

There's really no reason GMK caps need to cost what they cost, other than the fact that they're being made in EU instead of Asia. That is to say, it's totally possible for JT caps to be just as good for much less money.

Time will tell...

Materials could very well be different qualities too, though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 06 August 2015, 01:22:01
I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.
I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

Not only that buy Bunny said they would be significantly faster - only hold up at the moment is just getting the legends on the molds right
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: archer on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:08:09
Is GMK able to do symbols for mods, like the old Round 4 Retro set?

Like this:
More
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/0d/RETRO_TKLRGBYSYM.png/800px-RETRO_TKLRGBYSYM.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: njbair on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:12:36
Is GMK able to do symbols for mods, like the old Round 4 Retro set?

Like this:
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Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/0d/RETRO_TKLRGBYSYM.png/800px-RETRO_TKLRGBYSYM.png)

AFAIK GMK can do pad-printing, but not custom doubleshot legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: archer on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:13:05
Is GMK able to do symbols for mods, like the old Round 4 Retro set?

Like this:
More
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/0d/RETRO_TKLRGBYSYM.png/800px-RETRO_TKLRGBYSYM.png)

AFAIK GMK can do pad-printing, but not custom doubleshot legends.
Ahhh ok, good to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Peddamann on Thu, 06 August 2015, 15:35:46
this is the first GMK GB i would want to participate ^^
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 07 August 2015, 07:57:27
If SP would be able to make thick Cherry profile keys we would be in business too.
Thick keys, custom legends and much more colors. GMK would probably disappear from the custom scene overnight.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:13:26
If SP would be able to make thick Cherry profile keys we would be in business too.
Thick keys, custom legends and much more colors. GMK would probably disappear from the custom scene overnight.

I used to like SP a lot, but I started hating their keycaps now

GMK also has consistency, SP just randomly chooses font sizes, font weights with every keycap, they have no standard at all

Check their 2u, 1.75u shifts for example, all have different sizing, only the Dolch set has consistent shift sizing, while on the Dolch set the 1.75 Control keycap uses a much smaller font for some reason, this is just easily noticeable stuff, apart from this, their SA "Enter" font is much thinner than their regular SA font-weight for example, the sets are filled with issues like these

I had like 10 DSA sets, but I couldn't gather 1 consistent set to support my layout using them, while with GMK's, it's possible with just Dolch+CMYW+1-2 Extras

TL;DR: screw SP for screwing with fonts

Maybe JTKeycaps could end GMK's reign, but on the other hand, it seems GMK has some things brewing too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 07 August 2015, 08:16:51
If SP would be able to make thick Cherry profile keys we would be in business too.
Thick keys, custom legends and much more colors. GMK would probably disappear from the custom scene overnight.

I used to like SP a lot, but I started hating their keycaps now

GMK also has consistency, SP just randomly chooses font sizes, font weights with every keycap, they have no standard at all

Check their 2u, 1.75u shifts for example, all have different sizing, only the Dolch set has consistent shift sizing, while on the Dolch set the 1.75 Control keycap uses a much smaller font for some reason, this is just easily noticeable stuff, apart from this, their SA "Enter" font is much thinner than their regular SA font-weight for example, the sets are filled with issues like these

I had like 10 DSA sets, but I couldn't gather 1 consistent set to support my layout using them, while with GMK's, it's possible with just Dolch+CMYW+1-2 Extras

TL;DR: screw SP for screwing with fonts

Maybe JTKeycaps could end GMK's reign, but on the other hand, it seems GMK has some things brewing too
Quality control is on of the main differences between an excellent product and an ok product.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:26:02
Hey everyone,

Check out this awesome little picture that SethK_ made! Thanks bro!

(http://i.imgur.com/9QmheJ5.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74077.0)

Simple copy paste this:
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[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74077.0][img width=550 height=120]http://i.imgur.com/9QmheJ5.png[/img][/url]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 08 August 2015, 02:19:09
Thankies, breh~
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 08 August 2015, 02:25:42
Repping that soware badge of honour.  :)


Anyways, what is the goal for the launch time? I hope not too soon, Classic beige is going to empty my wallet a bit + many of the wonderful things coming into the works around GH..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 08 August 2015, 02:49:06
Repping that soware badge of honour.  :)


Anyways, what is the goal for the launch time? I hope not too soon, Classic beige is going to empty my wallet a bit + many of the wonderful things coming into the works around GH..

Probably won't be any time soon. If you're worried about Classic Beige, I wouldn't worry at all :D

Thanks for pimpin' the sig!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Jmneuv on Sat, 08 August 2015, 07:13:53
Finally a chance for soware gmk! Has the mods color been updated to the lighter CC yet?
For the mod legends i would suggest to pass on using text for those that really don't look good with it - like backspace, tab, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: StormyMonday on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:41:15
Repping that soware badge of honour.  :)


Anyways, what is the goal for the launch time? I hope not too soon, Classic beige is going to empty my wallet a bit + many of the wonderful things coming into the works around GH..

Probably won't be any time soon. If you're worried about Classic Beige, I wouldn't worry at all :D



Honestly, I'm more concerned about the ongoing Triumph Adler fiasco. Hopefully TA is a QC anomaly for GMK and not the beginning of a trend. I'm anxiously awaiting HYPERFUSE pics, before I make any decision regarding this SoWaRe GB.

It looks like the recent GMK Dolch GB went well, but I confess that I have equal parts excitement and anxiety for SoWaRe. This is very disappointing, because I was totally psyched for this GB, when I first saw it! Who knew that purchasing keycaps could be such an emotional roller coaster?!?!?!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jbondeson on Sat, 08 August 2015, 13:51:14
Yeah, I want to hear from GMK on what's up with TA and all the QC issues.

I think someone who got TA and Hyperfuse should do a side-by-side when they receive it. Should be enlightening since production should have been within a few months.

I'd love a SoWaRe set, but paying GMK premium for Tai-Hao quality doesn't really sound like a good time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: n0rvig on Sun, 09 August 2015, 03:31:36
..... Who knew that purchasing keycaps could be such an emotional roller coaster?!?!?!

Dude! I know..

This set looks great. It might be worth the risk. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: LXXXIX on Sun, 09 August 2015, 08:53:02
I'm down for GMK. If we choose SP I am definitely out. Their quality and consistency is just not to the same level as GMK. JTKeys would be interesting once they get delivered and we see the results.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 09 August 2015, 10:20:53
So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 09 August 2015, 18:00:55
So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...
+1 on JT

But lets wait and see how the Debut set is first.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 09 August 2015, 21:33:37
I bring input from OTD

Rough translation incoming

"I think GMK SoWaRe goes against the original spirit. While this iteration of SoWaRe being GMK is a problem in itself, the original SoWaRe was based off Wyse sets, and should not use cherry legends at all."

I don't think he's pleased with this.

I'd much prefer an SP DCS version with correct colors and legend sizes for authenticity's sake.

I will not buy a GMK SoWaRe.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Sun, 09 August 2015, 21:39:35
I bring input from OTD

Rough translation incoming

"I think GMK SoWaRe goes against the original spirit. While this iteration of SoWaRe being GMK is a problem in itself, the original SoWaRe was based off Wyse sets, and should not use cherry legends at all."

I don't think he's pleased with this.

I'd much prefer an SP DCS version with correct colors and legend sizes for authenticity's sake.

I will not buy a GMK SoWaRe.

Thank you for this! We are actually just in the process of contacting the original OTD creators, to discuss this set with them! This IC was just to gain interest, and since there has been interest we have decided to move to the next step, which for us is to talk to the original creators. I would never want to steal someone's design and will not be doing any sets without the original creator's permission. I will keep you guys updated on how it goes from here!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 09 August 2015, 21:49:41
the guy i talked to was not one of the original creators, he's just a dude i like


but i won't buy gmk soware
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 09 August 2015, 22:50:18
That's ok..I will.

SP = I'm out...and I'm sure many others will be as well...They're just not as good...

The idea is to get something very close to SoWaRe but in a "superior" format...Most people consider GMK > SP...

I don't want a direct copy..I want something better...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 August 2015, 23:04:50
I'd prefer a GMK SoWare with Cherry legends.

If this is going to be made by SP again then I will be sitting this one out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 August 2015, 23:35:13
So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...
+1 on JT

But lets wait and see how the Debut set is first.

Almost forgot about JTK.  I would be down with them making it also.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 10 August 2015, 00:10:38
I'd prefer a GMK SoWare with Cherry legends.

If this is going to be made by SP again then I will be sitting this one out.

Naw, this is 100% GMK, with consistent legend colours (the original Soware had inconsistent legend colours, it'd be better if it were consistent).

This will be in every way, more refined and solid than the original. I am super excited about this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: calmfries on Mon, 10 August 2015, 00:23:19

So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...
+1 on JT

But lets wait and see how the Debut set is first.
Seen it, touched it. Feels pretty good overall. But it was a sample set, so can't really say much yet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 10 August 2015, 00:28:49
Hi guys ~ I may not be in charge of this IC but I would like to emphasize a few things to prevent any confusion/misunderstanding:


Please keep in mind, this is an INTEREST CHECK. NOT A GROUP BUY.

There is nothing in motion right now except just gathering interest.

There is no guarantee this will happen, or not happen, for a long time from now.

THIS GB WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITHOUT THE BLESSING/CONSENT OF THE ORIGINAL MAKERS.

If they do not want this to happen, a REPLICA will not happen from us. Period.

However, this does not mean something else inspired, or just something different, might not happen.

Please also note, in the case this set ENDS UP NOT BEING A REPLICA, IT WILL NOT BE CALLED SOWARE.

We have no plans on doing SP at this point in time.


We really do appreciate the feedback and interest. Thank you ~


Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Mon, 10 August 2015, 00:30:14

Hi guys ~ I may not be in charge of this IC but I would like to emphasize a few things to prevent any confusion:


Please keep in mind, this is an INTEREST CHECK. NOT A GROUP BUY.

There is nothing in motion right now except just gathering interest.

There is no guarantee this will happen, or not happen, for a long time from now.

THIS GB WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITHOUT THE BLESSING/CONSENT OF THE ORIGINAL MAKERS.

If they do not want this to happen, a REPLICA will not happen. Period.

However, this does not mean something else inspired, or just something different, might not happen.

Please also note, in the case this set ENDS UP NOT BEING A REPLICA, IT WILL NOT BE CALLED SOWARE.

We have no plans on doing SP at this point in time.


We really do appreciate the feedback and interest. Thank you ~


+1. VesperSAINT <3 says everything better than I can.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 10 August 2015, 01:21:06
Can someone link me to some history on the original SoWaRe set? I know nothing about it, and I'm quite interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 10 August 2015, 01:27:49
Can someone link me to some history on the original SoWaRe set? I know nothing about it, and I'm quite interested.
http://keypuller.com/soware/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 10 August 2015, 07:09:06
Can someone link me to some history on the original SoWaRe set? I know nothing about it, and I'm quite interested.
Long story short, it was intended to be a Wyse replica set. Somewhere along the way legend colors were chosen incorrectly and SoWaRe was born. Now, this is moslty heresay from some respectable members, but I trust it is correct. It explains many of the inconsistencies within the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: StormyMonday on Mon, 10 August 2015, 13:32:00
I did some mock ups over the weekend, because I wanted to see what this SoWaRe inspired theme would look like on a winkeyless G80-1800. In a word, it looks f'ing amazing! Survey response submitted.

I hope that you plan on showing some love to those of us who are packing dem big spacebars.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:33:08
Gmk mockups are to different from what the set will actually look like. Can you post some pictures of the original set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:47:02
Gmk mockups are to different from what the set will actually look like. Can you post some pictures of the original set?
(http://i.imgur.com/CQGr0vS.jpg)
Via  ghostjuggernaut's 365CL DGE
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jd29 on Thu, 13 August 2015, 01:33:29
Edit: oh, I think you mean just the alphas will be beige. My bad, never mind
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 13 August 2015, 01:38:44
will the legend color made in standard gmk color or custom color?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 August 2015, 01:44:30
will the legend color made in standard gmk color or custom color?

I assume only stock colors will be used because MOQ for custom colors is too high.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 13 August 2015, 05:34:09
will the legend color made in standard gmk color or custom color?

I assume only stock colors will be used because MOQ for custom colors is too high.
This is one of the reasons I hope JT will be considered, if possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 13 August 2015, 15:46:17
will the legend color made in standard gmk color or custom color?

I assume only stock colors will be used because MOQ for custom colors is too high.
This is one of the reasons I hope JT will be considered, if possible.

I'll second this. Let's get this JT show on the road.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 13 August 2015, 23:49:37
Please, original soware with Bars on f and j
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 00:11:29
pls never bars
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:07:21
up up up
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: billnye on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:15:34
I'd rather get my set of JT caps and make a judgement on their quality before we decide to have JT manufacture them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Phirr on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:27:33
pls never bars

^^^
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:29:52
I'd rather get my set of JT caps and make a judgement on their quality before we decide to have JT manufacture them.
I've stated before, of course I'd like to get my JT set before forming if they are what I'd like. But as is and with everything we've seen, I'm leaning towards them. But, if anything should change and JTK turns out to be lower quality or something, then I'll have a different opinion.

Bunny seems pretty confident on the quality of the keycaps, but we shall see.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:14:32
pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 15 August 2015, 06:30:59
The cost of two 1u keys should be 1$ each

pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 15 August 2015, 07:17:26

The cost of two 1u keys should be 1$ each

pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...
Ah, so you're fine with comping it for my set? That's nice of you :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 08:31:16

The cost of two 1u keys should be 1$ each

pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...
Ah, so you're fine with comping it for my set? That's nice of you :)

Me too! (monkey)

How about for everyone else as well? It's only $2 x 250, only $500.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: archer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:58:05
I'm down for any additional gmk soware you want to add onto the set! And if it's light grey alphas, I'll buy several sets  :thumb: thanks for organizing this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 10:14:09
The cost of two 1u keys should be 1$ each

pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...

Which is why I'm not sure why more people aren't doing them like that.

I know there are a good number of people that like scoops, but plenty of people prefer bars...given bars are quite a bit more standard, I'm sure people wouldn't mind bars but some people dislike scoops..anyone using a Topre will be fine with bars...basically anyone using anything but GMK/Cherry will be fine with bars of some sort. 

I like added layouts..and understand why they're there..but seriously, some of the layout support probably covers less than 50 people on GH...

Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 15 August 2015, 10:18:47
As long as you pay for all those who don't like scoops  :p


The cost of two 1u keys should be 1$ each

pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...
Ah, so you're fine with comping it for my set? That's nice of you :)

Me too! (monkey)

How about for everyone else as well? It's only $2 x 250, only $500.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:17:03
As long as you pay for all those who don't like scoops  :p


The cost of two 1u keys should be 1$ each

pls never bars

IMO, bars/scoops should be extras as in, if you're doing scoops, bars should be extras.  It is so critical to the feel of the keyboard and they're keys you can't get around...
Ah, so you're fine with comping it for my set? That's nice of you :)

Me too! (monkey)

How about for everyone else as well? It's only $2 x 250, only $500.

Haha, you do realize you're in the minority, right? A minority, yet a very, very vocal minority. I'd be down if you were serious. That would be like what? $2 x 2, $4?

Edit: Let's have some respect for Byker's IC and stop derailing the thread with this crazy "lines" talk.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:19:33
scoops are ****

then again so is gmk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:21:16
The additional keys for ISO (R3 and R4) are both /:, wouldn't it be better to have a blank key on R4, near the shift, like Miami nights? Or even better to have /: on R4 and # on R3 near enter. We should refer to iso uk

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/KB_United_Kingdom.svg/800px-KB_United_Kingdom.svg.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:26:27
Haha, you do realize you're in the minority, right? A minority, yet a very, very vocal minority. I'd be down if you were serious. That would be like what? $2 x 2, $4?

Who is in the minority?  The people that prefer bars?  I think you'd be wrong in that...Most normal users I've had try my old cherry keyboards don't like the scoops at all.  Why would they?  It is completely different than the keyboards they use today...instead if you're slightly off center you feel the key in an oddball way...

It is like saying most users prefer 55g Topre....People on here will gush about them but the fact is, 45g is far more popular...that's not opinion, that is fact. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:28:44
Haha, you do realize you're in the minority, right? A minority, yet a very, very vocal minority. I'd be down if you were serious. That would be like what? $2 x 2, $4?

Who is in the minority?  The people that prefer bars?  I think you'd be wrong in that...Most normal users I've had try my old cherry keyboards don't like the scoops at all.  Why would they?  It is completely different than the keyboards they use today...instead if you're slightly off center you feel the key in an oddball way...

It is like saying most users prefer 55g Topre....People on here will gush about them but the fact is, 45g is far more popular...that's not opinion, that is fact.

Oh, I forgot that this buy was aimed at the average person and not keyboard enthusiasts.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: clacktalk on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:34:47

Haha, you do realize you're in the minority, right? A minority, yet a very, very vocal minority. I'd be down if you were serious. That would be like what? $2 x 2, $4?

Who is in the minority?  The people that prefer bars?  I think you'd be wrong in that...Most normal users I've had try my old cherry keyboards don't like the scoops at all.  Why would they?  It is completely different than the keyboards they use today...instead if you're slightly off center you feel the key in an oddball way...

It is like saying most users prefer 55g Topre....People on here will gush about them but the fact is, 45g is far more popular...that's not opinion, that is fact.

my sister who has no interest in keyboards also likes bars.

she's also also wrong
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:40:25
Jokes on you guys ~ We're doing nipples.

(http://cdn23.us2.fansshare.com/photos/meme/meme-sad-inverted-rageface-hd-wallpaper-wallpaper-1359714468.jpg)


LOL. JK.

I'm glad to see people are passionate about what they like, and I don't mind a some fire ~ Just try not to hurt each other, okay (we're not there yet ;) )?! Who am I kidding... go at it. HUE.

Sorry for the slow updates, but GMK is still on vacation, and we're also going sloowwww ~

If there are any updates, we'll be sure to let you guys know ASAP!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:43:30
The argument that the average person prefers bars, due to the mere-exposure effect, should not and does not concern the keyboard enthusiast community at all.

I would argue that their opinions and thoughts are of zero value, due to the fact that they are:

1) Not part of the keyboard enthusiast community.
2) Not going to shell out $100+ for a keyset, specifically, this keyset.

If you want to push the argument further, I would like to bring up the question:

Why do you even care why the masses like bars? Like I mentioned already, that is merely due to the mere-exposure effect, since most OEM computer manufacturers have included bars on the keyboards bundled with their computers.

Why does it matter that the masses like bars; people here are enthusiasts, can think for themselves, and have most likely already formed their own opinions through experience (and owning a bunch of different keyboards).

I would prefer if people quit using the preference of the masses as an argument, because it is completely irrelevant.

Our community is the one that will buy this keyset, and the majority of the community (read: community, not some average joe using his office's Dell keyboard with bars) prefer scoops, since that's what Cherry/GMK keycaps are all about.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:56:14
scoops are ****

then again so is gmk

keyboards are ****

scoops > lines > nipples
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 16 August 2015, 00:07:42
It's been so long since I've used bars that I don't even know what they feel like anymore...

I believe my Microsoft Wedge mobile keyboard uses them? I can't remember, they simply don't register anymore.
I do remember bars getting dirty a whole lot sooner than scoops.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 August 2015, 00:12:21
It's been so long since I've used bars that I don't even know what they feel like anymore...
no bueno
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: tbc on Sun, 16 August 2015, 01:25:12
pretty sure people only like lines because they've somehow associated it with doing 'lines of cocaine'

real nerds do 'scoops of cocaine'
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 16 August 2015, 01:36:44
The argument that the average person prefers bars, due to the mere-exposure effect, should not and does not concern the keyboard enthusiast community at all.

I would argue that their opinions and thoughts are of zero value, due to the fact that they are:

1) Not part of the keyboard enthusiast community.
2) Not going to shell out $100+ for a keyset, specifically, this keyset.

If you want to push the argument further, I would like to bring up the question:

Why do you even care why the masses like bars? Like I mentioned already, that is merely due to the mere-exposure effect, since most OEM computer manufacturers have included bars on the keyboards bundled with their computers.

Why does it matter that the masses like bars; people here are enthusiasts, can think for themselves, and have most likely already formed their own opinions through experience (and owning a bunch of different keyboards).

I would prefer if people quit using the preference of the masses as an argument, because it is completely irrelevant.

Our community is the one that will buy this keyset, and the majority of the community (read: community, not some average joe using his office's Dell keyboard with bars) prefer scoops, since that's what Cherry/GMK keycaps are all about.

Scoops is not what GMK is all about.  Get an inferior set with scoops and no one wants them.  Get the same quality without scoops and people would still want them.  See BSP/IMSTO as an example.  There is nothing superior about scoops, they're just not the norm so people think they're something special. 

A majority of the users on here don't even have GMK...the most active of users do but there are tons of users that do not.  You keep saying the majority prefer them, no, the vocal users with a stronger opinion prefer them.  There is absolutely nothing to indicate users actually prefer them.  There is only the vocal users that show that.  Same with 55g Topre.  You'd think they're the most popular or the most preferred with Topre when factually, they're not. 

But going back to forming your own opinion...plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars, stop trying to push your position on them.  I see plenty of people follow the leader here without forming their own opinion....but why do you prefer scoops?  What makes them better?  They're certainly not better from an off center strike position.  I'd like to see why others are "wrong". 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:15:44
Oh boy, Giorgio brought this Scoop vs Bars **** to every interest check.

It's getting annoying...


plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars

That's just a bold statement without any evidence. Can you back that up somehow?

If anything most people might be indifferent, but among the enthusiasts most prefer scoops.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:35:46
But going back to forming your own opinion...plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars, stop trying to push your position on them.

Oh OK, but you coming in here and pushing your bars opinion on the rest of the buy is somehow different? Seems to be a few people are making some very bold statements on just how many people prefer bars
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:54:34
The argument that the average person prefers bars, due to the mere-exposure effect, should not and does not concern the keyboard enthusiast community at all.

I would argue that their opinions and thoughts are of zero value, due to the fact that they are:

1) Not part of the keyboard enthusiast community.
2) Not going to shell out $100+ for a keyset, specifically, this keyset.

If you want to push the argument further, I would like to bring up the question:

Why do you even care why the masses like bars? Like I mentioned already, that is merely due to the mere-exposure effect, since most OEM computer manufacturers have included bars on the keyboards bundled with their computers.

Why does it matter that the masses like bars; people here are enthusiasts, can think for themselves, and have most likely already formed their own opinions through experience (and owning a bunch of different keyboards).

I would prefer if people quit using the preference of the masses as an argument, because it is completely irrelevant.

Our community is the one that will buy this keyset, and the majority of the community (read: community, not some average joe using his office's Dell keyboard with bars) prefer scoops, since that's what Cherry/GMK keycaps are all about.

Scoops is not what GMK is all about.  Get an inferior set with scoops and no one wants them.  Get the same quality without scoops and people would still want them.  See BSP/IMSTO as an example.  There is nothing superior about scoops, they're just not the norm so people think they're something special. 

A majority of the users on here don't even have GMK...the most active of users do but there are tons of users that do not.  You keep saying the majority prefer them, no, the vocal users with a stronger opinion prefer them.  There is absolutely nothing to indicate users actually prefer them.  There is only the vocal users that show that.  Same with 55g Topre.  You'd think they're the most popular or the most preferred with Topre when factually, they're not. 

But going back to forming your own opinion...plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars, stop trying to push your position on them.  I see plenty of people follow the leader here without forming their own opinion....but why do you prefer scoops?  What makes them better?  They're certainly not better from an off center strike position.  I'd like to see why others are "wrong".

How many people in this thread prefer bars, two people?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Sun, 16 August 2015, 03:01:46
Hey guys - debating scoops vs bars is kinda cool, but since we seem to be having the same discussion across multiple ICs right now. Perhaps we could make a specific thread for this discussion? Just an idea  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 August 2015, 03:05:46
The argument that the average person prefers bars, due to the mere-exposure effect, should not and does not concern the keyboard enthusiast community at all.

I would argue that their opinions and thoughts are of zero value, due to the fact that they are:

1) Not part of the keyboard enthusiast community.
2) Not going to shell out $100+ for a keyset, specifically, this keyset.

If you want to push the argument further, I would like to bring up the question:

Why do you even care why the masses like bars? Like I mentioned already, that is merely due to the mere-exposure effect, since most OEM computer manufacturers have included bars on the keyboards bundled with their computers.

Why does it matter that the masses like bars; people here are enthusiasts, can think for themselves, and have most likely already formed their own opinions through experience (and owning a bunch of different keyboards).

I would prefer if people quit using the preference of the masses as an argument, because it is completely irrelevant.

Our community is the one that will buy this keyset, and the majority of the community (read: community, not some average joe using his office's Dell keyboard with bars) prefer scoops, since that's what Cherry/GMK keycaps are all about.

Scoops is not what GMK is all about.  Get an inferior set with scoops and no one wants them.  Get the same quality without scoops and people would still want them.  See BSP/IMSTO as an example.  There is nothing superior about scoops, they're just not the norm so people think they're something special. 

A majority of the users on here don't even have GMK...the most active of users do but there are tons of users that do not.  You keep saying the majority prefer them, no, the vocal users with a stronger opinion prefer them.  There is absolutely nothing to indicate users actually prefer them.  There is only the vocal users that show that.  Same with 55g Topre.  You'd think they're the most popular or the most preferred with Topre when factually, they're not. 

But going back to forming your own opinion...plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars, stop trying to push your position on them.  I see plenty of people follow the leader here without forming their own opinion....but why do you prefer scoops?  What makes them better?  They're certainly not better from an off center strike position.  I'd like to see why others are "wrong".

How many people in this thread prefer bars, two people?

Just a handful of really loud people

Hey guys - debating scoops vs bars is kinda cool, but since we seem to be having the same discussion across multiple ICs right now. Perhaps we could make a specific thread for this discussion? Just an idea  :)
pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 16 August 2015, 06:03:18
Oh boy, Giorgio brought this Scoop vs Bars **** to every interest check.

It's getting annoying...


plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars

That's just a bold statement without any evidence. Can you back that up somehow?

If anything most people might be indifferent, but among the enthusiasts most prefer scoops.
I was thinking the same thing. No need to defile every single IC with that debate.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 16 August 2015, 06:29:20
I need to raise the *bar*, before it's too late. What's annoying is not being able to buy what I want, and being told what I should like ;)



Oh boy, Giorgio brought this Scoop vs Bars **** to every interest check.

It's getting annoying...


plenty of active users here actually do prefer bars

That's just a bold statement without any evidence. Can you back that up somehow?

If anything most people might be indifferent, but among the enthusiasts most prefer scoops.
I was thinking the same thing. No need to defile every single IC with that debate.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 16 August 2015, 07:03:03
That's just a bold statement without any evidence. Can you back that up somehow?

If anything most people might be indifferent, but among the enthusiasts most prefer scoops.

Sure, if you look through the threads you'll find plenty of people that do...

But for example..
CptBadass
Myself..
Khaaan
heedspantsnow
TacticalStache
Giorgio

You also have to ask, how many people can't deal with bars? Probably no one since that is pretty much the standard out there...Personally I don't mind scoops but I don't prefer them. 

People are ok with pushing oddball layouts onto people in the same of extensive layout support...even when those keyboards are not out there in quantity...People are ok with pushing their profile choices...but if you had to rank the qualities of keycaps..what would rank first?

For me:
Feel is number 1.  I don't know what it is for everyone else but given they go for GMK, Thick PBT, etc.  feel is pretty damn important to quite a few users.  Nibs/Scoops is feel and an important part of feel and yet many are quick to discard that for other users because they'd rather get more other keys, etc...

Some might say how it looks is number 1..
Some might say layout support (outside of standard).

But as long as the keycaps would support standard layouts, it could be ugly but I'd be ok with typing on it because it felt right. 
Can you say the same thing for the other qualities? 
Looks great but feels cheap and only supports standard layouts.
Supports every layout but feels cheap and looks like crap. 

That fact that people hit out at others because they actually care about how the keyboard feels is a perfect example of this community..you have plenty of very generous people but most people are out for themselves...it is no wonder we have such a huge problem with thieves on here...more so than any other enthusiasts community I've seen...

And before you say..well that is what I'm doing...no it isn't...I'm not banging on about my specific needs or layout without concerns for other stuff...I'm not even asking for things like getting rid of scoops..I'm merely saying 2 more keys would add a lot to the set rather than some of the more obscure layouts..and I believe that but if it was the option of these 2 keys or winkeyless, that's a no brainer...Winkeyless for sure...ISO, for sure...Even some other things like 75% or shorter R Shift.....


Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:00:21
@Giorgio & Polymer: Please move this discussion to a separate thread.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 August 2015, 13:55:44
Here you guys go (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Karura on Sun, 16 August 2015, 19:03:43
@Giorgio & Polymer: Please move this discussion to a separate thread.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:16:21
Did we get anywhere with the creators of SoWaRe? 

Not that I need another set but I'm really looking forward to seeing this made...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Tue, 18 August 2015, 22:35:24
Did we get anywhere with the creators of SoWaRe? 

Not that I need another set but I'm really looking forward to seeing this made...

We located, and sent a message to the creators over on OTD. Just waiting upon a response. The response we get will dictate the future of this group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: KeyZero on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:59:08
Might get it is I can get a grey or even black modpack. Looks clean and simple.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 19 August 2015, 23:31:05
For me, gray and beige are both OK. However, the alfa of Hyper fuse and Triumph Adler are gray and they are classic , gray match them quite well. SoWaRe is a more modern one , beige is matching it well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Mattr567 on Mon, 24 August 2015, 21:31:31
The original gray set looks really good!

A 2U shift key would be needed to complete my G80. Can't wait for when (if) this GB happens.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: korrelate on Mon, 24 August 2015, 23:36:14
all those different colors.... Handarbeit is the only set that can possibly make this one sound "reasonably priced."


^^^^^ just a guess.

I was never a fan of soware but maybe that beige render is what ineeded.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: lewi on Fri, 28 August 2015, 20:00:21
interesting
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Vaun on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:04:54
This is the set I'm currently waiting for, skipping all other GBs until this goes live cause I simple can't miss out!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:08:24
This is the set I'm currently waiting for, skipping all other GBs until this goes live cause I simple can't miss out!
Shamelessly going in for classic beige even though I just went in for LeandreN's buy and will probably be going in for this as well. RIP wallet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 02 September 2015, 16:45:31
This will be the set that finally gets me to make the jump to gmk (I like the look fine, just $$$$$$)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: dutC4 on Thu, 03 September 2015, 09:38:43
beige alphas confirmed when!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Jmneuv on Sun, 06 September 2015, 09:15:49
heard anything from otd yet? been pretty long
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 06 September 2015, 09:26:41
Crossing my fingers that they are alright with it, a replica SoWaRe set would be AmAzInG..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Thu, 10 September 2015, 17:15:29
I think people are sleeping on how good beige alphas would look. It'll look good either way, gray or beige, as long as the mods stay N9. I'll be in for a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: StormyMonday on Thu, 10 September 2015, 19:10:36
I think people are sleeping on how good beige alphas would look. It'll look good either way, gray or beige, as long as the mods stay N9. I'll be in for a set.

Yes, both versions would look good. But, beige would look really, really, really good!

Now, where is that damn order form hiding???
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:10:27
definitely interested in for a full set. any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 16 September 2015, 12:31:57
any update?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 12:51:18
The subtle RGB legends look terrific, and the color combination is awesome. This time I would have to jump on this wagon, no excuses from my poor thin wallet will be accepted.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 12:55:33
Gray could be combined with upcoming blue electric, with current black modifiers, and ... well you get the idea. In the other hand, beige would be awesome. I cannot decide which one I'd prefer, mmm.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 13:01:31
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: njbair on Wed, 16 September 2015, 13:54:55
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 16 September 2015, 14:01:23
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?

I think we should move all nips/bumps/bars/scoops to this from now on:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0

Any GMK GB where the creator omitted F/J designs for a reason should not have any discussion regarding them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:24:16
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?

I think we should move all nips/bumps/bars/scoops to this from now on:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0

Any GMK GB where the creator omitted F/J designs for a reason should not have any discussion regarding them.

Yeah, and all other questions too. We should make a specific thread for every possible question. I suggest a 1800 thread.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: njbair on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:32:34
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?

I think we should move all nips/bumps/bars/scoops to this from now on:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0

Any GMK GB where the creator omitted F/J designs for a reason should not have any discussion regarding them.
We already have a scoops/bars/nipples discussion thread. Is it too much just to ask people to act like grown ups and police themselves on this?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:32:46
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?

I think we should move all nips/bumps/bars/scoops to this from now on:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0)

Any GMK GB where the creator omitted F/J designs for a reason should not have any discussion regarding them.

Yeah, and all other questions too. We should make a specific thread for every possible question. I suggest a 1800 thread.

I am so lazy to read the entire thread; so, what is the agreement on this then?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Wed, 16 September 2015, 17:23:09
Hey everyone, been slowly working on some details. Life has been busy recently with the start of a new job and new semester. Will provide an update soon!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 16 September 2015, 17:30:15
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?

I think we should move all nips/bumps/bars/scoops to this from now on:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0)

Any GMK GB where the creator omitted F/J designs for a reason should not have any discussion regarding them.

Yeah, and all other questions too. We should make a specific thread for every possible question. I suggest a 1800 thread.

I am so lazy to read the entire thread; so, what is the agreement on this then?

50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 17:38:08
I suggest the OP to add the option to vote for nipples, bars, or scooped FJ keys. I'd prefer scoops; because, they are a Cherry design characteristic, as far as I know, bars could be found everywhere and nipples are also available somewhere else. Besides, they feel awesome while typing.
Are we doing this again?

I think we should move all nips/bumps/bars/scoops to this from now on:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0)

Any GMK GB where the creator omitted F/J designs for a reason should not have any discussion regarding them.

Yeah, and all other questions too. We should make a specific thread for every possible question. I suggest a 1800 thread.

I am so lazy to read the entire thread; so, what is the agreement on this then?

50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

Thank you very much for the warning; therefore, herein I declare that I formally apologize to the group leaders, and I accept any sort of force work sentence, under the penalty to be guilty as charge of had not troughly read the entire thread to understand the sensitiveness of the issue. Let's do it any way the leaders want. Us, the potential buyers, should silently accept the final decision.

 8)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Wed, 16 September 2015, 19:57:51
50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

That is kind of rude. I don't recall ever saying any of that, or abusing you, or even talking to you, quite frankly..

Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 20:36:03
50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

That is kind of rude. I don't recall ever saying any of that, or abusing you, or even talking to you, quite frankly..

I think he was joking.

By the way, your proposal is awesome. I really hope it goes through. If you do not mind I would like to set a link to your OP in my signature, please let me know if you allow it.

I would broke my promise to not buy more keyboard stuff in the rest of the year, because this set deserves to be in our inventories.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:08:51
50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

That is kind of rude. I don't recall ever saying any of that, or abusing you, or even talking to you, quite frankly..

I think he was joking.

By the way, your proposal is awesome. I really hope it goes through. If you do not mind I would like to set a link to your OP in my signature, please let me know if you allow it.

I would broke my promise to not buy more keyboard stuff in the rest of the year, because this set deserves to be in our inventories.

Fair enough. You may put one in your sig if you wish, however right now we are just working out the logistics, we have enough interest to continue. Also, there is no rush as there are so many gmk buys recently.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:17:37
50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

That is kind of rude. I don't recall ever saying any of that, or abusing you, or even talking to you, quite frankly..

I think he was joking.

By the way, your proposal is awesome. I really hope it goes through. If you do not mind I would like to set a link to your OP in my signature, please let me know if you allow it.

I would broke my promise to not buy more keyboard stuff in the rest of the year, because this set deserves to be in our inventories.

Fair enough. You may put one in your sig if you wish, however right now we are just working out the logistics, we have enough interest to continue. Also, there is no rush as there are so many gmk buys recently.

That's right sir. I should wait for the GB thread when available, then I may link it to contribute with a grain of salt to its exposure. A time waiting would be beneficial, learning from other unsuccessful GMK GBs, to wait would increase its chances to be supported.

Thank you for your work on this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:23:57
50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

That is kind of rude. I don't recall ever saying any of that, or abusing you, or even talking to you, quite frankly..

I think he was joking.

Giorgio never jokes my friend
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 17 September 2015, 01:00:33
50% of the users want them, but the project leaders don't care, because they think that it is a minor, esthetic change, while it is instead a radical change in feeling. If you insist on this topic, the dear leader will abuse you verbally and accuse you of derailing the gb. You are also responsible for half of the wars in Africa.

That is kind of rude. I don't recall ever saying any of that, or abusing you, or even talking to you, quite frankly..

Sorry I was joking. Anyway this question is taken very seriously in other threads, and this actually happened.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Polymer on Mon, 21 September 2015, 23:50:10
Did we get anywhere with the creators of SoWaRe? 

Not that I need another set but I'm really looking forward to seeing this made...

We located, and sent a message to the creators over on OTD. Just waiting upon a response. The response we get will dictate the future of this group buy.

Did they get back to you?  It should just really be a yes or no answer.  They might not even understand why you're asking as a color palette doesn't really belong to anyone but it is nice that you're asking anyways. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 28 September 2015, 19:31:52
Hmm, after the next JTK set is produced and received, maybe you guys can consider JTK as the producer for this set? We have seen a few issues with the purple set, that are being resolved but the general reaction is that it is quite good.


With the compatibility of JTK sets and the lower prices and further, maybe more accurate colour choices it could be a better choice?


If by the time the second run is produced and all of the issues are ironed out, maybe just maybe?  ^-^  :-*


That is of course if we get the OK by the original designers and everything is all good to go.


Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: dutC4 on Mon, 28 September 2015, 19:38:41
Hmm, after the next JTK set is produced and received, maybe you guys can consider JTK as the producer for this set? We have seen a few issues with the purple set, that are being resolved but the general reaction is that it is quite good.


With the compatibility of JTK sets and the lower prices and further, maybe more accurate colour choices it could be a better choice?


If by the time the second run is produced and all of the issues are ironed out, maybe just maybe?  ^-^  :-*


That is of course if we get the OK by the original designers and everything is all good to go.
Good idea ^
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 20:01:15
Hmm, after the next JTK set is produced and received, maybe you guys can consider JTK as the producer for this set? We have seen a few issues with the purple set, that are being resolved but the general reaction is that it is quite good.


With the compatibility of JTK sets and the lower prices and further, maybe more accurate colour choices it could be a better choice?


If by the time the second run is produced and all of the issues are ironed out, maybe just maybe?  ^-^ :-*


That is of course if we get the OK by the original designers and everything is all good to go.
Good idea ^

But JTK does not have support for ISO, this set deserves to have ISO compatibility to be worldwide compliant.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 28 September 2015, 20:07:19
Hmm, after the next JTK set is produced and received, maybe you guys can consider JTK as the producer for this set? We have seen a few issues with the purple set, that are being resolved but the general reaction is that it is quite good.


With the compatibility of JTK sets and the lower prices and further, maybe more accurate colour choices it could be a better choice?


If by the time the second run is produced and all of the issues are ironed out, maybe just maybe?  ^-^ :-*


That is of course if we get the OK by the original designers and everything is all good to go.
Good idea ^

But JTK does not have support for ISO, this set deserves to have ISO compatibility to be worldwide compliant.
Has there been word from bunny and/or JTK on ISO support? There could be support by the time it comes for this set to be made.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 20:11:37
Hmm, after the next JTK set is produced and received, maybe you guys can consider JTK as the producer for this set? We have seen a few issues with the purple set, that are being resolved but the general reaction is that it is quite good.


With the compatibility of JTK sets and the lower prices and further, maybe more accurate colour choices it could be a better choice?


If by the time the second run is produced and all of the issues are ironed out, maybe just maybe?  ^-^ :-*


That is of course if we get the OK by the original designers and everything is all good to go.
Good idea ^

But JTK does not have support for ISO, this set deserves to have ISO compatibility to be worldwide compliant.
Has there been word from bunny and/or JTK on ISO support? There could be support by the time it comes for this set to be made.

Yeah, he said so, but there is no any firm date for it, not any word showing interest of JTK on that; with a reason, it implies a new mold that costs some thousand dollars in investment.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Jersern on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:00:51
I'd love support for a split right shift configuration.

Edit: nvm I'm blind. Grey or beige I'd love a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: swaqqqmaster on Wed, 30 September 2015, 19:11:59
Whether it's beige or grey, I'd be picking up a set 100%.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 20:02:53
Whether it's beige or grey, I'd be picking up a set 100%.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:35:35
Hey everyone, just wanted to post a quick update. We are just as excited as you guys are about GMK SoWaRe, however we have to put this group buy on hold for now. We hope to start it up in the future when we have more time and resources!

Much love, byker and vesperSAINT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:48:31
Good to have an update, I'll be waiting patiently.  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:51:03
So long as this actually happens, that's fine. My wallet was taking a beating and needs to heal!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:55:33
Hey everyone, just wanted to post a quick update. We are just as excited as you guys are about GMK SoWaRe, however we have to put this group buy on hold for now. We hope to start it up in the future when we have more time and resources!

Much love, byker and vesperSAINT

no worries I think the collective wallets of geekhack can let out a sigh of relief (for the time being)
looking forward to seeing it in the future
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:04:25
Hey everyone, just wanted to post a quick update. We are just as excited as you guys are about GMK SoWaRe, however we have to put this group buy on hold for now. We hope to start it up in the future when we have more time and resources!

Much love, byker and vesperSAINT

no worries I think the collective wallets of geekhack can let out a sigh of relief (for the time being)
looking forward to seeing it in the future

The feelings are divided, my wallet is relieved, my spirit halts, my soul is full of deep sorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:05:04
Hey everyone, just wanted to post a quick update. We are just as excited as you guys are about GMK SoWaRe, however we have to put this group buy on hold for now. We hope to start it up in the future when we have more time and resources!

Much love, byker and vesperSAINT

no worries I think the collective wallets of geekhack can let out a sigh of relief (for the time being)
looking forward to seeing it in the future

The feelings are divided, my wallet is relieved, my spirit halts, my soul is full of deep sorrow.

tis the curse of thy wallethack
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:33:44
Yeah ~ Sorry, my baes <3

It's just with the busy schedules/life, the many other group buys going on, and other multiple factors~ we have decided it's best for this one to be put on hold for just now.

We really do appreciate that you guys are so understanding <3

You guys will be sure to hear from us if anything changes ~

(http://i.imgur.com/Uw5dt3C.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 10 October 2015, 17:08:23
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 October 2015, 17:33:36
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Sat, 10 October 2015, 17:39:09
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
This IC sparked because of that Massdrop set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 10 October 2015, 21:04:21
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
This IC sparked because of that Massdrop set.

I missed it, was it an SP made one?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 October 2015, 21:05:55
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
This IC sparked because of that Massdrop set.

I missed it, was it an SP made one?
GMK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 10 October 2015, 21:09:19
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
This IC sparked because of that Massdrop set.

I missed it, was it an SP made one?
GMK

Really? Now I feel very bad for not been aware of such set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 October 2015, 21:14:44
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
This IC sparked because of that Massdrop set.

I missed it, was it an SP made one?
GMK

Really? Now I feel very bad for not been aware of such set.
Personally it wasn't that great of a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 10 October 2015, 21:15:51
Why not just "selling" the idea to massdrop?
I think Massdrop already did their own version of soware.
This IC sparked because of that Massdrop set.

I missed it, was it an SP made one?
GMK

Really? Now I feel very bad for not been aware of such set.
Personally it wasn't that great of a set.

They called it GMK Sky Dolch (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch), and it did not have all the details of the soware one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 11 October 2015, 02:20:51
Yep, it was quite ugly. I think that reaching the moq could be quite easy. A change of strategy is much needed. A minimal ansi and ISO set should cost less than $90, as TA have showed, plus you can have an add-on with all the special layout keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ika on Sun, 11 October 2015, 02:29:37
Yep, it was quite ugly. I think that reaching the moq could be quite easy. A change of strategy is much needed. A minimal ansi and ISO set should cost less than $90, as TA have showed, plus you can have an add-on with all the special layout keys.

With Classic Beige failing and GMK SkiData about to land, and approaching the holiday season where people tighten up their wallets to spend on family, I have a really hard time thinking this will be able to hit MOQ easily. Not that it's not a great set, but circumstances are not ideal.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 11 October 2015, 03:56:29
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Sun, 11 October 2015, 08:01:26
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 11 October 2015, 08:08:10
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 11 October 2015, 11:59:04
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 11 October 2015, 12:04:32
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
honestly I don't think Skidata+ would meet the moq, it's a awesome set, but there are just so many gmk set this year.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 11 October 2015, 12:49:52
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
honestly I don't think Skidata+ would meet the moq, it's a awesome set, but there are just so many gmk set this year.
It doesn't help that the new JTK set is somewhat similar to Skidata+ and comes in at a much cheaper price.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 11 October 2015, 16:44:38
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
honestly I don't think Skidata+ would meet the moq, it's a awesome set, but there are just so many gmk set this year.
It doesn't help that the new JTK set is somewhat similar to Skidata+ and comes in at a much cheaper price.

Just my opinion, I think that JTK keycaps cannot replace gmk set right now.  Its true the prices are much lower, but the legends on gmk set are much better
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 17:28:03
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
honestly I don't think Skidata+ would meet the moq, it's a awesome set, but there are just so many gmk set this year.
It doesn't help that the new JTK set is somewhat similar to Skidata+ and comes in at a much cheaper price.

Just my opinion, I think that JTK keycaps cannot replace gmk set right now.  Its true the prices are much lower, but the legends on gmk set are much better

I have not seen any information confirming what you have said about the legends, but the opposite. Pictures show a very nice and smooth double shot key caps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 11 October 2015, 17:38:54
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
honestly I don't think Skidata+ would meet the moq, it's a awesome set, but there are just so many gmk set this year.
It doesn't help that the new JTK set is somewhat similar to Skidata+ and comes in at a much cheaper price.

Just my opinion, I think that JTK keycaps cannot replace gmk set right now.  Its true the prices are much lower, but the legends on gmk set are much better

I have not seen any information confirming what you have said about the legends, but the opposite. Pictures show a very nice and smooth double shot key caps.

The color and texture seems very nice.  But I have seen the e key in most pictues look skinner than other legends.  also the legends on modifier keys and function row just look strange to me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 18:36:21
It is absolutely possible to bring the price down to $90. You should at least try. And it's 75 days to Christmas :-)
Skidata+ is the last GMK set I'm joining this year.

I wonder how much will it cost...
I'm guessing it'll land at about the $115-$120 range. GMK sets seem to hover about there.
honestly I don't think Skidata+ would meet the moq, it's a awesome set, but there are just so many gmk set this year.
It doesn't help that the new JTK set is somewhat similar to Skidata+ and comes in at a much cheaper price.

Just my opinion, I think that JTK keycaps cannot replace gmk set right now.  Its true the prices are much lower, but the legends on gmk set are much better

I have not seen any information confirming what you have said about the legends, but the opposite. Pictures show a very nice and smooth double shot key caps.

The color and texture seems very nice.  But I have seen the e key in most pictues look skinner than other legends.  also the legends on modifier keys and function row just look strange to me

I have checked the pictures available, carefully, I just cannot see what you said. You should have a much better display than I do, though. In any case, community support is the only way to get that alternative to GMK, to get actually in business.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: kokokoy on Sun, 11 October 2015, 20:15:48
Most of the things i' ve noticed is abt consistency of the legends. Anyway i heard rnd 2 is fixing a few things (though no idea what they are) anyway. But overall i like how the 1st one turned out considering they are new and how much they cost.

Edit: forgot to attach. Disregard on the color my phone seems to have changed the top right key.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 21:35:45
Most of the things i' ve noticed is abt consistency of the legends. Anyway i heard rnd 2 is fixing a few things (though no idea what they are) anyway. But overall i like how the 1st one turned out considering they are new and how much they cost.

Edit: forgot to attach. Disregard on the color my phone seems to have changed the top right key.

(Attachment Link)

Now I got the idea. I hope they are working on fixing it for the next run.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ika on Wed, 14 October 2015, 01:03:53
Legend thickness is definitely one of the biggest drawbacks of the JTK set we've seen so far. There is a lot of variability among the alphas when it comes to line thickness, and even within the same cap the thickness is not the same. If this is improved in round 2 it would be a huge step towards being able to compete with GMK. The step after that would be increased layout compatibility, special size keys, and eventually more novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 November 2015, 14:57:10
Is there any hope for this GMK Soware set to happen?  I'm still holding out hope as it's definitely one of my favorite color combinations of legends and keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 18 November 2015, 15:03:20
Is there any hope for this GMK Soware set to happen?  I'm still holding out hope as it's definitely one of my favorite color combinations of legends and keycaps.

It's being put on the backburner for now, but OP hopes to come back to it soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 November 2015, 15:40:57
Is there any hope for this GMK Soware set to happen?  I'm still holding out hope as it's definitely one of my favorite color combinations of legends and keycaps.

It's being put on the backburner for now, but OP hopes to come back to it soon.


If you have not checked the SNES set, I think you should, it is similar to this one, but has great colors.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 18 November 2015, 15:44:03
Is there any hope for this GMK Soware set to happen?  I'm still holding out hope as it's definitely one of my favorite color combinations of legends and keycaps.

It's being put on the backburner for now, but OP hopes to come back to it soon.


If you have not checked the SNES set, I think you should, it is similar to this one, but has great colors.

Oh, thanks for the info, that is pretty slick! I hope they offer some kind of add-on to allow users the option to use non purple colors for the top row.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 November 2015, 16:11:16
Is there any hope for this GMK Soware set to happen?  I'm still holding out hope as it's definitely one of my favorite color combinations of legends and keycaps.

It's being put on the backburner for now, but OP hopes to come back to it soon.


If you have not checked the SNES set, I think you should, it is similar to this one, but has great colors.

Oh, thanks for the info, that is pretty slick! I hope they offer some kind of add-on to allow users the option to use non purple colors for the top row.


You should post your suggestions at the IC thread.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 18 November 2015, 16:44:34
Totally down for a replica, gotta fill out that form now :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 November 2015, 16:57:58
Totally down for a replica, gotta fill out that form now :D


Don't bother, this thread is dead, the OP stated he cannot run this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:40:16
Totally down for a replica, gotta fill out that form now :D


Don't bother, this thread is dead, the OP stated he cannot run this GB.

Well I feel stupid for filling in that form...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:43:06
Totally down for a replica, gotta fill out that form now :D


Don't bother, this thread is dead, the OP stated he cannot run this GB.

Well I feel stupid for filling in that form...

I feel like it was started as a rash reaction toward Sky Dolch. But I have hope for this still as byker said he'd like to see it done later.
Later, later.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:02:00
Make it happen pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?
Post by: byker on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:53:16
This IC is on hold until the future, when vesper or myself have more time to pursue it! :)