[IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?

[Polymer]

Yeah I know about the passion for design around here. Just wasn't sure why everyone was getting so intense about this set in particular.

I can see it though, it's a damn nice set and I want some of it too (SoWaRe that is). Will be interested to see how this plan turns out.

I was actually going to put in my post it is an iconic set...  A GMK version of this set though would actually top the original though...plus some added keys to add some other layouts...

I mean, SoWaRe sets are hard to find and highly desirable....but one that is better (GMK) and more flexibility?  autobuy...

[LXXXIX]

I voted for Beige. The current greys look too much like Hyperfuse. Which will almost feel like rebuying the set, plus I think it would steal some the the light Hyperuse has.

Though a replica of the OG would be dope too.

[pmh1410]

i vote text legend like that, Ctrl + Alt + shift is RGB color

[byker]

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.

[calmfries]

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.

Seems like things are moving. Just hope that it can stay as OG as possible(I'm aware things will be a little different with GMK of course). If want to do something different (color), as well just name it something else since it's not exactly a replica in that case. Just my 2 cent.

[byker]

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.

Seems like things are moving. Just hope that it can stay as OG as possible(I'm aware things will be a little different with GMK of course). If want to do something different (color), as well just name it something else since it's not exactly a replica in that case. Just my 2 cent.

We understand this, and would not call it soware, if it isn't soware.

[calmfries]

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.

Seems like things are moving. Just hope that it can stay as OG as possible(I'm aware things will be a little different with GMK of course). If want to do something different (color), as well just name it something else since it's not exactly a replica in that case. Just my 2 cent.

We understand this, and would not call it soware, if it isn't soware.

Glad to hear that.

[LechnerDE]

Thank you everyone for you interest so far. We currently have had 110 people submit their interest via the google form. Although we are not replying to everyone individually, VesperSAINT and I have a list of everyone's concerns or thoughts and we will go through them before any final mockups are made.

Let's hope that most of those 110 people will also commit to joining the GB 

[Limewirelord]

I'd commit as long as it's not relatively soon.  Miami Nights, now this and SkiData?  My wallet can only take so much.

[romevi]

I'd commit as long as it's not relatively soon.  Miami Nights, now this and SkiData?  My wallet can only take so much.

This.

There needs to be some kind of GH rule or something which dictates how many GMK GBs there can be in one year.
My wallet can take only so much...

[sethk_]

I'd commit as long as it's not relatively soon.  Miami Nights, now this and SkiData?  My wallet can only take so much.

This.

There needs to be some kind of GH rule or something which dictates how many GMK GBs there can be in one year.
My wallet can take only so much...

This is the first year with so many full sets. Before most people used SP

[jbondeson]

Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.

[sethk_]

Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.

DSA usually stays away from here.

[jbondeson]

Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.

DSA usually stays away from here.

In 2013 we had Retro, Hyperfuse, Dolch and those were just the big ones I remember.

[sethk_]

Every 9 months or so we cycle. For a while every buy was DSA, then it was SA, now it's GMK.

Next? Maybe Gateron PBT.

DSA usually stays away from here.

In 2013 we had Retro, Hyperfuse, Dolch and those were just the big ones I remember.

I am talking recently But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.

[jbondeson]

I am talking recently But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.

Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads

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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?


[romevi]

I am talking recently But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.

Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads

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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?


Wow, SA was overlapped pretty quickly.
I started showing interest in keyboards a bit before the DSA era, but nothing serious until just a few months ago. SA was still kind of all the rage, but ever since I've been diving into Cherry keycaps it seems most of my money is going toward GMK. The only SA GB I've done is Round 5a. I just barely missed SA Retro, but now I'm not so sure I want it anymore.

[sethk_]

I am talking recently But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.

Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads

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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?


DCS should be in there somewhere, unless it was popular before 2k13

[jbondeson]

DCS has just kinda been there throughout. Much maligned ("Cherry or BUST!"), it's been the default for all small scale or low cost productions.

I guess I left it out because DCS usually isn't looked at as a selling point of a set. Sooo, yeah I'm claiming Artistic license! 

[HoffmanMyster]

I am talking recently But yeah, a lot more GMK than DSA it seems.

Certainly, in 2014 there was a big anti-DSA groundswell. I was just mentioning the cycles we've gone through in the last couple years.

Artist's Rendition of GH Profile Fads

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                        |----- GMK ----?   
                |---- SA ----|
   |---- DSA ----|
 |------------|------------|------------|
2013         2014         2015         2016?


DCS should be in there somewhere, unless it was popular before 2k13

DCS has just kinda been there throughout. Much maligned ("Cherry or BUST!"), it's been the default for all small scale or low cost productions.

I guess I left it out because DCS usually isn't looked at as a selling point of a set. Sooo, yeah I'm claiming Artistic license! 

Yep, DCS used to be basically the only option before (and even during the beginning of) 2013, and simply lost "market share" to the other profiles.  It's still there, lurking in the shadows, waiting to strike back.

If I had my way though, we'd all use GMK til we die. 

[Air tree]

If I haven't put down interest already, count me in, brilliant set. 

Both the grey or beige would look fantastic. I'm down for anything. this is a set that I need in my life.


*after some thought, I'm leaning towards grey, it just does it for me, a bit more...

[njbair]

I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.

[Air tree]

I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.

I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

[njbair]

I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.

I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

There's really no reason GMK caps need to cost what they cost, other than the fact that they're being made in EU instead of Asia. That is to say, it's totally possible for JT caps to be just as good for much less money.

Time will tell...

[HoffmanMyster]

I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.

I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

There's really no reason GMK caps need to cost what they cost, other than the fact that they're being made in EU instead of Asia. That is to say, it's totally possible for JT caps to be just as good for much less money.

Time will tell...

Materials could very well be different qualities too, though.

[swimmingbird]

I'm eager to see how Ctrl-Alt's JT keycaps come out. If they are a match for GMK quality that would be the beginning of something awesome.

I would be much more enthusiastic for JT, with their topre board compatible spacebars, that really makes it for me.


I would be MUCH happier with JT if they are around the same quality as GMK. Lower price? Check? High quality (Crossing my fingers) Check? Topre-Mx sliders and molds for topre-mx compatible spacebars to complete the kit for topre users? CHECK.

Not only that buy Bunny said they would be significantly faster - only hold up at the moment is just getting the legends on the molds right

[archer]

Is GMK able to do symbols for mods, like the old Round 4 Retro set?

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[njbair]

Is GMK able to do symbols for mods, like the old Round 4 Retro set?

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AFAIK GMK can do pad-printing, but not custom doubleshot legends.

[archer]

Is GMK able to do symbols for mods, like the old Round 4 Retro set?

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AFAIK GMK can do pad-printing, but not custom doubleshot legends.

Ahhh ok, good to know. Thanks!

[Peddamann]

this is the first GMK GB i would want to participate ^^

[JaccoW]

If SP would be able to make thick Cherry profile keys we would be in business too.
Thick keys, custom legends and much more colors. GMK would probably disappear from the custom scene overnight.

[KHAANNN]

If SP would be able to make thick Cherry profile keys we would be in business too.
Thick keys, custom legends and much more colors. GMK would probably disappear from the custom scene overnight.

I used to like SP a lot, but I started hating their keycaps now

GMK also has consistency, SP just randomly chooses font sizes, font weights with every keycap, they have no standard at all

Check their 2u, 1.75u shifts for example, all have different sizing, only the Dolch set has consistent shift sizing, while on the Dolch set the 1.75 Control keycap uses a much smaller font for some reason, this is just easily noticeable stuff, apart from this, their SA "Enter" font is much thinner than their regular SA font-weight for example, the sets are filled with issues like these

I had like 10 DSA sets, but I couldn't gather 1 consistent set to support my layout using them, while with GMK's, it's possible with just Dolch+CMYW+1-2 Extras

TL;DR: screw SP for screwing with fonts

Maybe JTKeycaps could end GMK's reign, but on the other hand, it seems GMK has some things brewing too

[JaccoW]

If SP would be able to make thick Cherry profile keys we would be in business too.
Thick keys, custom legends and much more colors. GMK would probably disappear from the custom scene overnight.

I used to like SP a lot, but I started hating their keycaps now

GMK also has consistency, SP just randomly chooses font sizes, font weights with every keycap, they have no standard at all

Check their 2u, 1.75u shifts for example, all have different sizing, only the Dolch set has consistent shift sizing, while on the Dolch set the 1.75 Control keycap uses a much smaller font for some reason, this is just easily noticeable stuff, apart from this, their SA "Enter" font is much thinner than their regular SA font-weight for example, the sets are filled with issues like these

I had like 10 DSA sets, but I couldn't gather 1 consistent set to support my layout using them, while with GMK's, it's possible with just Dolch+CMYW+1-2 Extras

TL;DR: screw SP for screwing with fonts

Maybe JTKeycaps could end GMK's reign, but on the other hand, it seems GMK has some things brewing too

Quality control is on of the main differences between an excellent product and an ok product.

[byker]

Hey everyone,

Check out this awesome little picture that SethK_ made! Thanks bro!



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[VesperSAINT]

Thankies, breh~

[Air tree]

Repping that soware badge of honour. 


Anyways, what is the goal for the launch time? I hope not too soon, Classic beige is going to empty my wallet a bit + many of the wonderful things coming into the works around GH..

[VesperSAINT]

Repping that soware badge of honour. 


Anyways, what is the goal for the launch time? I hope not too soon, Classic beige is going to empty my wallet a bit + many of the wonderful things coming into the works around GH..

Probably won't be any time soon. If you're worried about Classic Beige, I wouldn't worry at all

Thanks for pimpin' the sig!

[Jmneuv]

Finally a chance for soware gmk! Has the mods color been updated to the lighter CC yet?
For the mod legends i would suggest to pass on using text for those that really don't look good with it - like backspace, tab, etc.

[StormyMonday]

Repping that soware badge of honour. 


Anyways, what is the goal for the launch time? I hope not too soon, Classic beige is going to empty my wallet a bit + many of the wonderful things coming into the works around GH..

Probably won't be any time soon. If you're worried about Classic Beige, I wouldn't worry at all

Honestly, I'm more concerned about the ongoing Triumph Adler fiasco. Hopefully TA is a QC anomaly for GMK and not the beginning of a trend. I'm anxiously awaiting HYPERFUSE pics, before I make any decision regarding this SoWaRe GB.

It looks like the recent GMK Dolch GB went well, but I confess that I have equal parts excitement and anxiety for SoWaRe. This is very disappointing, because I was totally psyched for this GB, when I first saw it! Who knew that purchasing keycaps could be such an emotional roller coaster?!?!?!

[jbondeson]

Yeah, I want to hear from GMK on what's up with TA and all the QC issues.

I think someone who got TA and Hyperfuse should do a side-by-side when they receive it. Should be enlightening since production should have been within a few months.

I'd love a SoWaRe set, but paying GMK premium for Tai-Hao quality doesn't really sound like a good time.

[n0rvig]

..... Who knew that purchasing keycaps could be such an emotional roller coaster?!?!?!

Dude! I know..

This set looks great. It might be worth the risk.

[LXXXIX]

I'm down for GMK. If we choose SP I am definitely out. Their quality and consistency is just not to the same level as GMK. JTKeys would be interesting once they get delivered and we see the results.

[Polymer]

So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...

[Air tree]

So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...

+1 on JT

But lets wait and see how the Debut set is first.

[Puddsy]

I bring input from OTD

Rough translation incoming

"I think GMK SoWaRe goes against the original spirit. While this iteration of SoWaRe being GMK is a problem in itself, the original SoWaRe was based off Wyse sets, and should not use cherry legends at all."

I don't think he's pleased with this.

I'd much prefer an SP DCS version with correct colors and legend sizes for authenticity's sake.

I will not buy a GMK SoWaRe.

[byker]

I bring input from OTD

Rough translation incoming

"I think GMK SoWaRe goes against the original spirit. While this iteration of SoWaRe being GMK is a problem in itself, the original SoWaRe was based off Wyse sets, and should not use cherry legends at all."

I don't think he's pleased with this.

I'd much prefer an SP DCS version with correct colors and legend sizes for authenticity's sake.

I will not buy a GMK SoWaRe.

Thank you for this! We are actually just in the process of contacting the original OTD creators, to discuss this set with them! This IC was just to gain interest, and since there has been interest we have decided to move to the next step, which for us is to talk to the original creators. I would never want to steal someone's design and will not be doing any sets without the original creator's permission. I will keep you guys updated on how it goes from here!

[Puddsy]

the guy i talked to was not one of the original creators, he's just a dude i like


but i won't buy gmk soware

[Polymer]

That's ok..I will.

SP = I'm out...and I'm sure many others will be as well...They're just not as good...

The idea is to get something very close to SoWaRe but in a "superior" format...Most people consider GMK > SP...

I don't want a direct copy..I want something better...

[CommonCurt]

I'd prefer a GMK SoWare with Cherry legends.

If this is going to be made by SP again then I will be sitting this one out.

[CommonCurt]

So you bannering it because we're going with SoWaRe replica (which the beige is not)?

GMK SoWaRe replica...in

Would love to see if JT can do this...

+1 on JT

But lets wait and see how the Debut set is first.

Almost forgot about JTK.  I would be down with them making it also.