[GB] Troubled Minds estimated ship date is March 10 or 11, 2016

[thesiscamper]

The Troubled Minds set is up on Massdrop! I would like to give thanks to everyone who participated in the design process, it was enjoyable and truly a great learning experience!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/troubled-minds-sa-keycap-set

Here's some more mockups, I will try to add mockups for Planck and ISO in the following days:

[HoffmanMyster]

Approved in Group Buys due to significant community involvement. 

Any questions regarding this can be directed to myself. 

[romevi]

I can't wait to get this set at my doorstep. I ordered one of everything save for the international and Dvorak/Colemak kits. 

[thesiscamper]

Thanks Hoff!

[cwils0n]

I'm so friggin hyped for set!  All of your wonderful renders need to be put up on the massdrop page.

[Steezus]

I'm so friggin hyped for set!  All of your wonderful renders need to be put up on the massdrop page.

I'm pretty sure those are his renders on Massdrop, either way they look pretty damn good.

[cwils0n]

I'm so friggin hyped for set!  All of your wonderful renders need to be put up on the massdrop page.

I'm pretty sure those are his renders on Massdrop, either way they look pretty damn good.

Yes, but only a couple of them.  The 3 shown above aren't on there yet.

[Steezus]

I'm so friggin hyped for set!  All of your wonderful renders need to be put up on the massdrop page.

I'm pretty sure those are his renders on Massdrop, either way they look pretty damn good.

Yes, but only a couple of them.  The 3 shown above aren't on there yet.

True, it would be nice if Massdrop had a sliding gallery at the top rather than just one image so you could cycle through them all.

[Niomosy]

First community-designed set and first SA set for me.  Should be fun once they get here some time next Spring or so.

[cwils0n]

Yup, I think that would be perfect.  They usually have a sliding gallery right before the "specs" for keysets with different colors and/or printing, so it shouldn't be too hard to implement something like that for all of camper's renders.

I feel that quite a few people end up jumping into GBs/drops once they have a "real" picture of what their keyboard will end up looking like.  I ended up adding an ergodox kit to my Carbon SA purchase solely because I saw the renders...I wasn't even intending to even build an ergodox at that point.

[thesiscamper]

Yup, I think that would be perfect.  They usually have a sliding gallery right before the "specs" for keysets with different colors and/or printing, so it shouldn't be too hard to implement something like that for all of camper's renders.

I feel that quite a few people end up jumping into GBs/drops once they have a "real" picture of what their keyboard will end up looking like.  I ended up adding an ergodox kit to my Carbon SA purchase solely because I saw the renders...I wasn't even intending to even build an ergodox at that point.

A sliding gallery would be great.

[Jedi]

In for one of everything as well.  No Troubled Mind here, this group buy is already at 300 strong.  EVERYONE, this group buy is  up for less than only 2 weeks so jump in now (or very soon) if you're interested :-)

[thesiscamper]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

[rpeterclark]

MOQ on the main kits reached on day 2, nice!

[Dernubenfrieken]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

Dayummmmm. Base set and novelties already hit, numpad and alt-mods close, all on day 2. Impressive as hell.

[My_Thoughts]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

Dayummmmm. Base set and novelties already hit, numpad and alt-mods close, all on day 2. Impressive as hell.

It's looking great. I still have my fingers crossed that the drop point for ISO can be lowered to 25.

[lashiel]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

[thesiscamper]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

Dayummmmm. Base set and novelties already hit, numpad and alt-mods close, all on day 2. Impressive as hell.

It's looking great. I still have my fingers crossed that the drop point for ISO can be lowered to 25.

Massdrop said they can't raise prices after a drop has started, I should maybe try to woo the deskthority guys, might help with your ISO kit?

Also, Massdrop confirmed R4 shifts for Troubled Minds.

[thesiscamper]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

[lashiel]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

Possibly the Angel's face, as shown in the render, except have that for both CTRL keys instead of just one.

[thesiscamper]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

Possibly the Angel's face, as shown in the render, except have that for both CTRL keys instead of just one.

Oh I see, I intentionally limited heads/faces to only one key, as I imagine there's only one Joker, or Eva 01, or Sachiel, even in keyboards, if that makes sense.

[romevi]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

Possibly the Angel's face, as shown in the render, except have that for both CTRL keys instead of just one.

Oh I see, I intentionally limited heads/faces to only one key, as I imagine there's only one Joker, or Eva 01, or Sachiel, even in keyboards, if that makes sense.

Oh, wow. That does make sense. You really put a lot of thought into this considering this is your first set.

[thesiscamper]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

Possibly the Angel's face, as shown in the render, except have that for both CTRL keys instead of just one.

Oh I see, I intentionally limited heads/faces to only one key, as I imagine there's only one Joker, or Eva 01, or Sachiel, even in keyboards, if that makes sense.

Oh, wow. That does make sense. You really put a lot of thought into this considering this is your first set.

Thanks! I just thought it would be weird to see two Joker faces when you looked down.

[Zanduby]

Looks like the GB is going well! Congrats, I hope it all goes smoothly.

[thesiscamper]

Looks like the GB is going well! Congrats, I hope it all goes smoothly.

Thanks, and I just got another great news: Custom legends are good to go! 

[Pwner]

Oh mannnnn.. that white keyboard render looks so nice! 

[Niomosy]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

What time are they updating?  I thought they originally mentioned noon PST but I noticed the community page updated earlier than that and no noon update.  Glad to see it updating, though. 

Great progress on the buy thus far.  Glad to see it moving well.  Congrats on a job well done.

[Jedi]

The updates to the tracking stats do take a day and sometimes two for the update to occur.  Rest assure that the update will come.  Keep in mind there is movement up and down (people changing their order, people adding to their order, people taking things out of their order) which they take into consideration in making the change to the price points.  The price will definitely adjust though.  It just may take a few more orders in to guarantee the new price point holds.  Last anyone wants to see is the price go back up because 5 people made changes to their order affecting 95 other orders because of an order update. 

We'll all benefit in the end.  AND the more that jump in now, the more secure the lower price is for all of us.

[thesiscamper]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

What time are they updating?  I thought they originally mentioned noon PST but I noticed the community page updated earlier than that and no noon update.  Glad to see it updating, though. 

Great progress on the buy thus far.  Glad to see it moving well.  Congrats on a job well done.

Thanks, I think they updated an hour earlier today. I'll be asking about updates everyday (except the weekends). 

The updates to the tracking stats do take a day and sometimes two for the update to occur.  Rest assure that the update will come.  Keep in mind there is movement up and down (people changing their order, people adding to their order, people taking things out of their order) which they take into consideration in making the change to the price points.  The price will definitely adjust though.  It just may take a few more orders in to guarantee the new price point holds.  Last anyone wants to see is the price go back up because 5 people made changes to their order affecting 95 other orders because of an order update. 

We'll all benefit in the end.  AND the more that jump in now, the more secure the lower price is for all of us.

Yes, the base and novelties are currently unlocked, so we have the next drop points to look forward to. I'm planning to do more renders for other layouts so people will know what they'll look like instead of wondering if it will look good. 

[Sissy]

Thanks Doc

[lashiel]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

Possibly the Angel's face, as shown in the render, except have that for both CTRL keys instead of just one.

Oh I see, I intentionally limited heads/faces to only one key, as I imagine there's only one Joker, or Eva 01, or Sachiel, even in keyboards, if that makes sense.

Aha! I understand now. Makes sense.

[slushi]

Wish I could get in on this but between some mechmarket stuff and the TGR Jane GB, I am flat broke lol

[My_Thoughts]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

Dayummmmm. Base set and novelties already hit, numpad and alt-mods close, all on day 2. Impressive as hell.

It's looking great. I still have my fingers crossed that the drop point for ISO can be lowered to 25.

Massdrop said they can't raise prices after a drop has started, I should maybe try to woo the deskthority guys, might help with your ISO kit?

Also, Massdrop confirmed R4 shifts for Troubled Minds.

That is great news about the R4 shifts.  I think a post on deskthority  would be good to bump the interest
I will sign up for 2 iso sets tomorrow and see how interest goes. I really wish more people in the EU wanted amazing keycaps

I wish we had an easy way to see how many child deals tipped and at what point in the past

[thesiscamper]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

Dayummmmm. Base set and novelties already hit, numpad and alt-mods close, all on day 2. Impressive as hell.

It's looking great. I still have my fingers crossed that the drop point for ISO can be lowered to 25.

Massdrop said they can't raise prices after a drop has started, I should maybe try to woo the deskthority guys, might help with your ISO kit?

Also, Massdrop confirmed R4 shifts for Troubled Minds.

That is great news about the R4 shifts.  I think a post on deskthority  would be good to bump the interest
I will sign up for 2 iso sets tomorrow and see how interest goes. I really wish more people in the EU wanted amazing keycaps

I wish we had an easy way to see how many child deals tipped and at what point in the past

I already started a thread in Deskthority, so that's done. I checked past group buys and both Danger Zone and Carbon didn't reach 50 orders for ISO, Carbon had 34 and Danger Zone had 46 if I'm not mistaken.

[Niomosy]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

What time are they updating?  I thought they originally mentioned noon PST but I noticed the community page updated earlier than that and no noon update.  Glad to see it updating, though. 

Great progress on the buy thus far.  Glad to see it moving well.  Congrats on a job well done.

Thanks, I think they updated an hour earlier today. I'll be asking about updates everyday (except the weekends). 

The updates to the tracking stats do take a day and sometimes two for the update to occur.  Rest assure that the update will come.  Keep in mind there is movement up and down (people changing their order, people adding to their order, people taking things out of their order) which they take into consideration in making the change to the price points.  The price will definitely adjust though.  It just may take a few more orders in to guarantee the new price point holds.  Last anyone wants to see is the price go back up because 5 people made changes to their order affecting 95 other orders because of an order update. 

We'll all benefit in the end.  AND the more that jump in now, the more secure the lower price is for all of us.

Yes, the base and novelties are currently unlocked, so we have the next drop points to look forward to. I'm planning to do more renders for other layouts so people will know what they'll look like instead of wondering if it will look good. 

Updating a bit early sounds about right.  I haven't specifically kept track of that on previous drops so wasn't positive what the situation was there.  Glad they're updating.  I won't complain at earlier updates.

Looks like we're not too tremendously far off on the numpad as of this morning also.  Great for those of us dwindling full-size keyboard users.

[Elrick]

Looks like we're not too tremendously far off on the numpad as of this morning also.  Great for those of us dwindling full-size keyboard users.

Us full-sized bastards need to stick together.  Imagine a world full of tiny 60% and TKLs, ......... oooohhh shudder to even contemplate that disaster....... 

[Desastor]

Sorry for sounding ignorant ('cuz I am as I just got into mech keyboards) but I have two DAS Keyboards that I want to customize.  Would you recommend SA keycaps for those boards or should I rather go with another keydesign option. 

My 8 year old has been bugging me after he saw the pics and wants to one of those sets for gameplaying.

Thanks,

D

[thesiscamper]

Sorry for sounding ignorant ('cuz I am as I just got into mech keyboards) but I have two DAS Keyboards that I want to customize.  Would you recommend SA keycaps for those boards or should I rather go with another keydesign option. 

My 8 year old has been bugging me after he saw the pics and wants to one of those sets for gameplaying.

Thanks,

D

It depends on the model, das keyboards have standard and non-standard bottom rows, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[njbair]

Looks like we're not too tremendously far off on the numpad as of this morning also.  Great for those of us dwindling full-size keyboard users.

Us full-sized bastards need to stick together.  Imagine a world full of tiny 60% and TKLs, ......... oooohhh shudder to even contemplate that disaster....... 

The consequences would be incalculable, because no numpads to calculate them with.

[thesiscamper]

Based on the traction so far, I feel like there may actually be a pretty decent shot of hitting the 2nd or 3rd drop points on at least some of the sets. Which I feel is pretty infrequent.

Trying to decide if I want a second novelty set so that I can have symmetrical CTRL keys...

I'm not sure what you mean, which novelty key are you going to use for CTRL?

Possibly the Angel's face, as shown in the render, except have that for both CTRL keys instead of just one.

Oh I see, I intentionally limited heads/faces to only one key, as I imagine there's only one Joker, or Eva 01, or Sachiel, even in keyboards, if that makes sense.

Aha! I understand now. Makes sense.

The non-standard kit has two Eva and Joker faces, man I really neglected that kit...

[Niomosy]

Looks like we're not too tremendously far off on the numpad as of this morning also.  Great for those of us dwindling full-size keyboard users.

Us full-sized bastards need to stick together.  Imagine a world full of tiny 60% and TKLs, ......... oooohhh shudder to even contemplate that disaster....... 

I think if I ever went smaller than a full size keyboard, I'd end up buying a numpad anyway.

[aznairjordan]

Sorry for sounding ignorant ('cuz I am as I just got into mech keyboards) but I have two DAS Keyboards that I want to customize.  Would you recommend SA keycaps for those boards or should I rather go with another keydesign option. 

My 8 year old has been bugging me after he saw the pics and wants to one of those sets for gameplaying.

Thanks,

D

It depends on the model, das keyboards have standard and non-standard bottom rows, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe Das keyboards have standard bottom rows but I only had the full size one before

[thesiscamper]

Sorry for sounding ignorant ('cuz I am as I just got into mech keyboards) but I have two DAS Keyboards that I want to customize.  Would you recommend SA keycaps for those boards or should I rather go with another keydesign option. 

My 8 year old has been bugging me after he saw the pics and wants to one of those sets for gameplaying.

Thanks,

D

It depends on the model, das keyboards have standard and non-standard bottom rows, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe Das keyboards have standard bottom rows but I only had the full size one before

Some are non-standard

[Oobly]

....
Also, Massdrop confirmed R4 shifts for Troubled Minds.

That makes this officially the first set to use the new Row 4 Shift molds (since it's the first to get a production slot with them)! Milestone GB 

Congrats, thesiscamper!

[My_Thoughts]

The community page has been updated: http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/


 

Dayummmmm. Base set and novelties already hit, numpad and alt-mods close, all on day 2. Impressive as hell.

It's looking great. I still have my fingers crossed that the drop point for ISO can be lowered to 25.

Massdrop said they can't raise prices after a drop has started, I should maybe try to woo the deskthority guys, might help with your ISO kit?

Also, Massdrop confirmed R4 shifts for Troubled Minds.

That is great news about the R4 shifts.  I think a post on deskthority  would be good to bump the interest
I will sign up for 2 iso sets tomorrow and see how interest goes. I really wish more people in the EU wanted amazing keycaps

I wish we had an easy way to see how many child deals tipped and at what point in the past

I already started a thread in Deskthority, so that's done. I checked past group buys and both Danger Zone and Carbon didn't reach 50 orders for ISO, Carbon had 34 and Danger Zone had 46 if I'm not mistaken.

Ah thanks for  checking. I think going forward maybe the drop point for ISO should be 10 or 15, so that it gets made and then hope more people join to lower the price.

[thesiscamper]

....
Also, Massdrop confirmed R4 shifts for Troubled Minds.

That makes this officially the first set to use the new Row 4 Shift molds (since it's the first to get a production slot with them)! Milestone GB 

Congrats, thesiscamper!

Thanks! Great timing for SP and luck on my part.

Ah thanks for  checking. I think going forward maybe the drop point for ISO should be 10 or 15, so that it gets made and then hope more people join to lower the price.

There's still lots of time, I'll render an ISO mockup and hope to bring in a few orders so don't feel left out! 

[Elrick]

Thanks! Great timing for SP and luck on my part.

The Joker always makes his schemes come through with such deranged humour  .

[UsualSuspectXXX]

This set looks awesome, but I think I'm gonna have to pass on this one. Good luck reaching the drop points!

[thesiscamper]

I'm bothered by the non-standard kit, and want to change it. Personally I think it looks weird to have two faces or heads of a character, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to significantly change the design when the drop is already active. Here's two options I came up with, the first is the one I prefer. It's not only cheaper than the other option, I feel it's aesthetically more pleasing since you can have symmetry.



The second one might be what some (or most) people want, 4 unique novelties. It also means a more expensive kit. Massdrop can't raise the prices since the drop is already active, so I might have to put out money for the two extra molds so the price stays virtually the same as now. I'm not even sure if that's how it works.



So, leave it alone, or change it to one or the other?

edit: words

[Jedi]

Best advice I would give is that you ADD a key to the kit to balance it out.  To counter the price variance, change the price on the MOQ next level up.  Removing keys could likely cause a lot of commotion among participants (likely even from non participants just because they have less at stake with regards to opinion).  This would be the most fair and make everyone appreciate the extra work put into the updates.  The issue with the add by people who wish to "discuss it" is that they are "paying for extra keys they don't want".  We've seen keys get added to kits during an active group buy in the past, so it does happen.