Aluminum customs are fun but there's really nothing like a sturdy injection-molded case for great sound and a little bit of softness compared to a chunk of metal. Would be great to have an option other than aluminum for plates now.
There's no chance this also works with iKBC cases too, right? They look similar on the outside with the same LED positioning.
Does this plate have the bent edges so it can fit in the original Flico case?
Does this plate have the bent edges so it can fit in the original Flico case?
I have one of these plates in an original Filco case and it fits just fine without the bent edges.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551
ne iso :-*
Does this plate have the bent edges so it can fit in the original Flico case?
I have one of these plates in an original Filco case and it fits just fine without the bent edges.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551
Does it fit securely in there? What is holding it in place, just the screws?
I recently bought a majestouch tkl as a project board so I'm very interested if you offer 6.25u bottom row support. I have it disassembled rn and wasn't looking forward to rebuilding with the stock steel plate.
How does FR4 compare to Carbon Fiber (my current favorite plate material) in terms of softness, flex and sound?
I'd also be interested in hearing how it stands against Polycarbonate.
Interested in this project, thanks. :)
Does this plate have the bent edges so it can fit in the original Flico case?
I have one of these plates in an original Filco case and it fits just fine without the bent edges.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551
Also filled out the interest check form, definitely interested.
Does this plate have the bent edges so it can fit in the original Flico case?
I have one of these plates in an original Filco case and it fits just fine without the bent edges.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551
Also filled out the interest check form, definitely interested.
Would you mind sharing a picture of how it mounts in a stock case? I'm concerned about this too because both stock and aftermarket cases rely on those edges to secure the bottom of the plate. It only mounts along the top.
Edit: Also, the discord invite doesn't work fyi op.
Does this plate have the bent edges so it can fit in the original Flico case?
I have one of these plates in an original Filco case and it fits just fine without the bent edges.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2551
Also filled out the interest check form, definitely interested.
Would you mind sharing a picture of how it mounts in a stock case? I'm concerned about this too because both stock and aftermarket cases rely on those edges to secure the bottom of the plate. It only mounts along the top.
Edit: Also, the discord invite doesn't work fyi op.
Oh, I see. There two standoff towards the bottom as well as grooves on either side that hold the plate up in the stock case. I flipped my plate upside down to eliminate the effect of the curved parts and it stayed up just fine. I wish I had one of the alu cases to test out too. Although anything made with the phantom in mind should work I imagine. I've been trying to find info on the YMDK (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32617566709.html) ones specifically, but am not having much luck.
Found this post (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/72kq8p/usny_h_m65a_pbt_dsa_dolch_ymdk_filco_shell_tai/) on reddit, that confirms that phantom internals work with the case, so presumably the plates here will as well.
Spacebar stab cutouts only work with plate mount costars, not plate mount cherry
Found this post (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/72kq8p/usny_h_m65a_pbt_dsa_dolch_ymdk_filco_shell_tai/) on reddit, that confirms that phantom internals work with the case, so presumably the plates here will as well.
That unfortunately is a phantom pcb with a stock Filco plate. I'll keep digging though. Worst case I can just shim it maybe.
Edit: Aha! I found this reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ok3y7/filco_with_gmk_penumbra_and_aluminum_case/) a long time ago and just managed to dig it back up. Basically there are 3 screws along the underside of the top half of the case that secure theplatepcb to it (see attached picture). These screws needthe bent partthe pcb to clamp down on. Here's (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ok3y7/filco_with_gmk_penumbra_and_aluminum_case/dkid719/) the comment thread where the op and a commenter talk about this. A flat plate will work fine in the stock plastic case,but in an aftermarket case it will probably need to have shims for those screws and/or foam filler under the pcb.
Edit 2: Upon closer reading, it seems maybe the washer they where talking about in that thread clamps down on the pcb. I also checked my own board and the pcb extends beyond the plate bend by a couple millimeters. It seems that phantom plates should work with YMDK cases at least.
Quick update:
- Seems like we may have had enough interest for a "Both" option, as far as half-plate vs full-plate so in this run there will be the option for either as long as those users still would like them when the GB starts. The moq on plates is only 5, so it would be easy to fill the numbers here if we needed.
- Interest primarily has been in a standard bottom row as well, so I'm working on the mock-ups now to change both over to that.
Quick update:
- Seems like we may have had enough interest for a "Both" option, as far as half-plate vs full-plate so in this run there will be the option for either as long as those users still would like them when the GB starts. The moq on plates is only 5, so it would be easy to fill the numbers here if we needed.
- Interest primarily has been in a standard bottom row as well, so I'm working on the mock-ups now to change both over to that.
Fyi, I will buy both a standard and wkl plate if they are both offered. Probably won't be in for a half plate though tbh.
Before you go to gb, I have a couple questions about the relief cuts.
What is the massive cutout underneath the spacebar for? I can foresee this causing switch alignment issues for the spacebar since there are no switch pin holes on filco pcbs.
Why is the cutout between the alpha and nav cluster inconsistent? I don't really see how this will make any difference in typing feel, but it will make a random visible gap down to the pcb once the board is assembled.
These plates are designed with an aftermarket PCB in mind, since for the most part desoldering and reusing the stock PCB isn't preferable. The majority reason for replacing the internals on a filco imo are to have cherry stabalizers and a more configurable PCB, rather than just a hoof swap in.
These plates are designed with an aftermarket PCB in mind, since for the most part desoldering and reusing the stock PCB isn't preferable. The majority reason for replacing the internals on a filco imo are to have cherry stabalizers and a more configurable PCB, rather than just a hoof swap in.
But Phantom pcbs don't have switch pin holes either, and a hoof swap results in a completely re-programmable pcb anyways. So we'd be waiting on an unreleased custom pcb from the second GB for the best compatibility with this current plate.
I'll take your word on the side cutout though. Not as big a deal as the spacebar one.
Sorry, not trying to be difficult :( I think this is a cool project and am just trying to point out potential concerns.
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Stab cutouts would not work with plate mount cherry still. Plate mount cherry stabs are installed from the top down, so you need the slit to be fully connected from one end to the other. By doing so you can insert the wire underneath the plate using the full slit. Obviously you're going for the otd space cutout and it is not working atm. If you insist on keeping that cutout, you have to narrow down to pcb mount stabs + lfk pcb only. Please see this video for more info:
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As far as I know this would solve the issue and still have a similar effect to what I was trying to do anyway. Really quick mockup, so Still some small adjustments to be made, but feel free to let me know if you see something.
Any chance of getting a Hot-Swappable PCB in the future? In either standard ANSI, or ANSI WKL.
I’d like to use the Phantom with a Filco case, as a test bed for switches.
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This plate seems cool, but can someone elaborate what it is for?
This plate seems cool, but can someone elaborate what it is for?
Thanks! It looks interesting. I'm happy with the build quality of Filcos, and could imagine using one as the basis for a custom.
I know there are aluminum or other metal cases available for these. Have you seen the photo of the Honeywell TKL customization?Show Image(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Yxrps8QGiKhTdriYbiT_A2Ba2gFpiGRb_QoRG6pm3pb29af-hmIlI7kvE6m1Jaw-x_m4Gw7Vo6jJDHb2aXUOuIJnazic846D_Zkcc6lNnFGZnyNXBSHQESzN6ssaEwN56QScGjShieARQD8cFawZkoM-_p8xpKNZCiQrqpPPAB-r5TnPlbQTYaDF3Uf0YtBuLLFwMfZhU19wXiuIN60N8JO53iPR1q_uh5Lv7U4SRQ_0I0mvd_4nyGxxJhqrh5esUEc0XFq0WArXkHqJhQoihCqSWWOGedmV_GTxCqRpemCARR5Y-SGoGRWaP-BbI07ivGSrxtIH-0jS3UTD4qZJywcRRt_kAhuxipSWSj8z0sU014pRiMmog4MwQwRewvEAiRoxACa2PtGU40CkEi2MutLYqkVuqbVISCZ8fFP6cqzTik7CWbd8tOU42qeNr89s8Wn05fdfIN2iX9Nr2TDTfoZfLwJt1YuVHq4kEZ1bjZhjfHy2ubvrUXpeQJlPrn2xajayD2zLZWHAVmUyKTT1xcy7vzqzLqimvChe15IrF5fOrQ-mn66_5BUbLRjovSM_Yt7SnB5qpMIoySMCRVV1AYFX0qFh9fMmUneo3cuC1RXKr6vN6-I5neUG83yUb8pS6CZuP-YKw8kMJsYvKHJisOmz8B4KcdclSaiokUwDtYlgJME=w1080-h1440-no)
It looks awesome!
https://terrencemiao.github.io/blog/2017/08/02/Customisation-of-Filco-Majestouch-2-Mechanical-Keyboard/
So I have thought about maximizing the capability of a Filco through these modifications. But I was planning to do it for a full-size, which drastically lessens case/pcb choices.
Yes, I'm kind of envisioning a Filco TKL build right now. I'd want to replace the switches, primarily, so having a new plate and PCB are helpful in that respect. I don't really need an aluminum case, but nicer internals would be better.
Thinking of removing the switch top removal cuts.
If anyone is opposed to this let me know, but so far it seems this might reduce price, and to be honest, in my experience the slots for removal aren't that practical. Faster to desolder most times imho.
Yes, I'm kind of envisioning a Filco TKL build right now. I'd want to replace the switches, primarily, so having a new plate and PCB are helpful in that respect. I don't really need an aluminum case, but nicer internals would be better.
For sure yeah.
But just to clarify, PCBs will come after, at the moment I'm still working with a designer to get this complete and prototypes made.
In the future, after this is done, I'll be running a full upgrade kit for a Filco's internals (Plate, PCB, Stabs, and potentially switches), so if you hold out until 2nd quarter, possibly 3rd of this year, that could be an option.
Glad a project like this was picked up. Been looking into building into the Aliexpress Aluminum case and this popped up at a perfect time.
I don't mind losing the switch top removal cuts. That actually benefits people who are looking to use this plate for Alps SKCL/SKCM or perhaps SMK switches.
Are the plates 1.5mm thick? I would assume so but I don't see it in the thread. Thanks.
Woo hoo..
Btw- Please don't use yellow characters.. MY EYES.. THEY'S BURRRNNNNN..
Woo hoo..
Btw- Please don't use yellow characters.. MY EYES.. THEY'S BURRRNNNNN..
Using the light theme?
Yellow is my favorite :O
Pricing looks great. My only advice on this GB since the hole size changed to "exact fit" is to test one plate on a PCB before the full run. I had a plate lasercut in acrylic and even though the files were perfect, the plate cutouts would not align with the switches from end to end. Could be because some PCB's use 19mm and others use 19.05mm spacing. Adjusting the switch hole to 16mm wide fixed the problem as there was more room for error. Also the Holy Panda and some Outemu switches can be difficult to fit into an exact fit plate. I doubt there will be problems but in my efforts w/ builds whatever can go wrong will.
Hope this goes good, phantom scene is way slow. I aint put on the form but a gloss black/yellow with that schwey logo would be insane. 2003 is begging for it and so am i :cool:
ALSO any idea on estimate shipping to UK? if it's hefty i'll let some lucky conus user get one 1st round. Don't keel over before i can get a few later tho :thumb:
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I know this aint the time for colour discussion but I'd love to see raw FR4 in the future. it's either a way cool cloudy transparent green or cloudy yellow colour which would pair with polycarb like a champ. Do your guys do that or does it have to be coated? (also are people even interested in raw epoxy fiber??)
thanks for doing this, my poor baby "filco" has been begging for some love