how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced
This is what I don't understand about this thread. It ultimately promotes the inflation of prices anyway. Even if it's strictly used for helping noobs not get ripped off it's still advising them that something's worth more than it should. Even if its sentimental value - it still shouldn't have an increased price.
Personally I think this thread would be better not existing at all. Unless there were threads that would pop up constantly? And that's why it was made? Maybe they should be blocked too. Imo it would make for a better situation.
I know it's a tough subject because of all of the implications and factors towards the product but, really, just the existence of this thread goes against what I'm sure most vets believe regarding the inflation, flipping and selling of clacks.
Just my 2pence.
Now the thread may resume.
There are 3 sorts of people at GH, the ones that have been here for a while and don't want you to make a profit from clacks (probably won all their ccs at sales). The newer ones that desperately wants a clack so they go crazy for one on classifieds begging for a clack at all costs and the ones that wins a clack at the raffle just to flip it and make money.
I think a good standing point should be:
Don't sell a clack for a higher price than you bought it for.
It isn't really believable that someone buys a clack for 200$ that he should resell it for 50$ but if you win at a clack sale and you sell it for 200$, you are a douche.
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Not to mention that while the "best" price for a clack is retail price, the truth is that they are frequently sold for much higher prices. That's what this thread is really for, is to inform people as to what is fair for aftermarket prices (regardless of how much we might want them to all be sold at retail). Since various clacks sell for wide ranges of prices, it's valuable information to have.
IMO, the remarks of "sell it for retail" and such are still somewhat valuable as a reminder that that's kind of the ideal state that most of us would like to see. It's not going to happen overnight, if at all, but it's what a lot of us would like to see.
^^ Above is my personal opinion ^^
As for this thread existing, it exists because the price check and simple questions threads were getting overrun with questions about clacks and caused a lot of drama over pricing and the like, so it was warranted that a dedicated topic should exist. The moderation team is not interested in regulating the discussion of this topic so much as we are interested in keeping discussions civil and organized. This is much easier to do with a dedicated thread to keep the other threads on topic. Despite this thread still being fairly controversial at times, it is contained here so if you want to avoid the drama it's quite easy, and that was part of the goal.
Hope that makes sense.
Yea, totally makes sense. That is the only logical reason I could think for the thread still being alive, the number of posts that would follow "is this worth x"
The thing is. If the thread didn't exist and any posts that were to arise were simply replied with an obligatory "x is worth retail" it would eventually drill the general rule that if someone is trying to sell something for more than retail then "no it is not worth it." Additionally, if they're really concerned about the price are they really going to turn to the seller and say "this thread said its not worth that" and then the seller will change his mind? No. And lastly, as you said, those guys that will just buy it anyway? Doubtful they're using this thread.
I just think it would be better for the future of the community, especially with the rise is newcomers, That this kind of thread and information wasn't so readily available and in such an encouraging matter.
I don't know, its an interesting situation. The only thing we can do is set a better example - and this thread doesn't do that.
In all honesty. I've never actually witnessed a situation where someone has blatantly flipped a clack and therefore have never seen this thread have such a negative effect. It was just something I was interested to discuss.
As you said, this thread was deemed necessary as some point and doesn't require too much upkeep but it certainly seems like a catalyst for some people's opinions and sometimes contradictory with it being used.