[IC] GMK Space Cadet, launches August 3rd 2018 on Massdrop

[MikeTheTiger]

Is there a reason why? I’m starting to notice a trend of lack of support.

Same question! I've been following this thread and carbon closely, and it seems odd.

It’s deliberate. See the Carbon thread.

[chuckdee]

Is there a reason why? I’m starting to notice a trend of lack of support.

Same question! I've been following this thread and carbon closely, and it seems odd.

It’s deliberate. See the Carbon thread.

Stirring it up isn't helping anyone.  Let them handle it behind the scenes, and realize that they don't have to support it, nor are they beholden to tell why.  If you choose a custom layout, then supporting it is going to be at the whims of the keyset designers.  It's a sad, unfortunate, truth.

[MikeTheTiger]

Is there a reason why? I’m starting to notice a trend of lack of support.

Same question! I've been following this thread and carbon closely, and it seems odd.

It’s deliberate. See the Carbon thread.

Stirring it up isn't helping anyone.  Let them handle it behind the scenes, and realize that they don't have to support it, nor are they beholden to tell why.  If you choose a custom layout, then supporting it is going to be at the whims of the keyset designers.  It's a sad, unfortunate, truth.

Just stating the facts. I have a feeling I know the reasons why. It's just a shame that it has to be this way. There's so many great creators in this space. When it's an oversight, that's one thing. When it's deliberate, well...it's truely a shame. If you're deep into mechs, than hopefully theres a chance you have a "custom layout" or two and its always nice to move caps around and be able to outfit all your boards. I own several sets from both Oblotsky, T0mb3ry and Zambumon, so obviously I'm a fan of their work. I plan on joing their current IC's when they hit GB. It would just be nice for this to feel more like a community again, instead of what it has turned out to be. With that said, I can't wait for Space Cadet to launch so I can throw my money at it.

[hansichen]

Well, it wasn't their fault that the "community" feeling is gone   /shrug


btt: looking forward to red cadet 

[darthzero]

Wasn’t it though? Never heard of designers being entitled to be ask for approval for creating a new keycap profile. Instead of talking this through, eventually offering their creations in this new profile for a pretty awesome price, they went on a witch hunt. League of the extraordinary keyset designers vs one guy
Just my outsider perspective:*

[ideus]

Please be on topic. Derailing the thread from the concept and development of the set is not allowed in an IC or GB.

Threadcrapping as defined in the GB/IC rules:

"2) Threadcrapping: If you aren't interested in joining a group buy, STAY OUT OF THE GROUP BUY THREAD. This goes doubly so if you disagree with the way the buy is being run, the product being purchased, or have any other complaint not relevant to buying into the group buy. Repeat offenders put themselves in danger of moderator action."

[hineybush]

I need this still. Gotta figure out which board would go well with the whole set, though..

Please run grey mods in the future 

[Wetherbee]

Problem solved, no more blue

Oh my god.. it is so beautiful. Please let this be real.

[chuckdee]

Problem solved, no more blue

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Oh, that's almost perfect!  If you'd just reverse the colors on the alpha keycaps (you know which ones I mean), this would be my endgame set!  /s

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I actually really like both of these.

[Wetherbee]

Oh, that's almost perfect!  If you'd just reverse the colors on the alpha keycaps (you know which ones I mean), this would be my endgame set!  /s

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So clean. Looks like the inverse of the later generation Symbolics keyboards. :)

Both of these kits would be super versatile. In for two of the all grey though for that sweet sweet F-row when mixing.

[zslane]

The later version of the Space Cadet had dark gray alphas and off-white modifiers. There was never a Space Cadet in which all the keys were dark gray. If you're going to eliminate blue keys in order to capture the essence of the later generation board, then this GB needs to provide off-white modifiers as well.

[Blaise170]

Getting rid of the blue is also an instant drop out on my end. The whole point of the set is Space Cadet, not "bunch of fancy symbols on gray keys".

[Oblotzky]

Guys relax. There was a discussion about how the function row should be colored, and after some back and forth I jokingly said 'problem solved' by just dropping blue altogether. It is of course not going anywhere

[zslane]

Oh, I wasn't referring to Oblotzky (and his GB) when I said "If you're going to get rid of the blue keys". I was referring to everyone who fancies building out a board without any blue keys on it.

[chuckdee]

Oh, I wasn't referring to Oblotzky (and his GB) when I said "If you're going to get rid of the blue keys". I was referring to everyone who fancies building out a board without any blue keys on it.
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I was just saying that for a joke... I really like them.

[Wetherbee]

The all Grey base kit is very nice. 

Grey-on-silver is a beautiful combination IMHO.

[Oblotzky]

I just received the pricing sheet for the new version of the kits, and it looks good to me! the Assembly (Ergodox) and 40bit (Planck and 40%) are much more affordable now compared to the previous combined version. I am crossing my fingers that we can hit 100 on both of those.

Just over a week left for the drop to launch now!

[Windeh]

I just received the pricing sheet for the new version of the kits, and it looks good to me! the Assembly (Ergodox) and 40bit (Planck and 40%) are much more affordable now compared to the previous combined version. I am crossing my fingers that we can hit 100 on both of those.

Just over a week left for the drop to launch now!

HYPE!!

[OracleKev]

I just received the pricing sheet for the new version of the kits, and it looks good to me! the Assembly (Ergodox) and 40bit (Planck and 40%) are much more affordable now compared to the previous combined version. I am crossing my fingers that we can hit 100 on both of those.

Just over a week left for the drop to launch now!

Can't wait!

[gnunin]

Will 40% cover the Minivan?

[Oblotzky]

Will 40% cover the Minivan?

It does not, sorry.

[glubazoid]

I just received the pricing sheet for the new version of the kits, and it looks good to me! the Assembly (Ergodox) and 40bit (Planck and 40%) are much more affordable now compared to the previous combined version. I am crossing my fingers that we can hit 100 on both of those.

Just over a week left for the drop to launch now!

MY WALLET IS READY

[Oblotzky]

Launch date is set, will probably announce during the weekend.

Also I'll be sending this kit to Christoph on Monday for pricing, but I have ZERO hopes of it being offered. I just feel like I should at least give it a shot and get priced out, but with 41 new legend plates, that's about 61.5EUR in tooling alone, so this would translate to like 129$ or something insane like that for the kit.

Edit: first Y key has wrong sublegend, I'll fix and doublecheck everything tomorrow, too sleepy now.

[dvorcol]

Launch date is set, will probably announce during the weekend.

Also I'll be sending this kit to Christoph on Monday for pricing, but I have ZERO hopes of it being offered. I just feel like I should at least give it a shot and get priced out, but with 41 new legend plates, that's about 61.5EUR in tooling alone, so this would translate to like 129$ or something insane like that for the kit.

Edit: first Y key has wrong sublegend, I'll fix and doublecheck everything tomorrow, too sleepy now.

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Could GMK also quote this as two unique kits, one for Dvorak and one for Colemak?

Usually Colevrak kits only need different keycaps for unique rows, so the number of extra keycaps for one layout or the other is not so big.  But for Space Cadet, exact position in each row is important to keep the symbols in the right places.  I think the number of unnecessary keycaps in a combined Colevrak kit will result in a huge kit price, and consequently the odds of reaching MOQ will be even smaller than usual.

[Acereconkeys]

I realize it's very difficult to make happen but i'd personally love to see a colemak only kit for this. Agree with everything from the above poster.

[Oblotzky]

The image I posted has Colemak on the left and Dvorak on the right.

Splitting that into two makes the chances of either hitting 100 units even less likely than it already would be. I don't think the price drop on each for not carrying the other with it would change that much.

[Acereconkeys]

The image I posted has Colemak on the left and Dvorak on the right.

Splitting that into two makes the chances of either hitting 100 units even less likely than it already would be. I don't think the price drop on each for not carrying the other with it would change that much.

How would the price hike not be big when the dvorak kit is significantly more new molds/keys added?

[ideus]

The 40bit kit is missing the |\ key. In either R1 or R4, or both.

[Oblotzky]

The 40bit kit is missing the |\ key. In either R1 or R4, or both.

I don't see it used in any default layout of Preonic or 40% keebs, mind showing me which one it would be for?

[ideus]

The 40bit kit is missing the |\ key. In either R1 or R4, or both.

I don't see it used in any default layout of Preonic or 40% keebs, mind showing me which one it would be for?

It is a fifty keeb. This is my own interpretation, of course. Just thinking that one key could make the set more flexible. I understand that it may be a sort of unique interpretation.

[Oblotzky]

The 40bit kit is missing the |\ key. In either R1 or R4, or both.

I don't see it used in any default layout of Preonic or 40% keebs, mind showing me which one it would be for?

It is a fifty keeb. This is my own interpretation, of course. Just thinking that one key could make the set more flexible. I understand that it may be a sort of unique interpretation.

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Yeah I'm afraid that this is too unique. The kits are locked except for errors in standard layout coverage.

[ideus]

The 40bit kit is missing the |\ key. In either R1 or R4, or both.

I don't see it used in any default layout of Preonic or 40% keebs, mind showing me which one it would be for?

It is a fifty keeb. This is my own interpretation, of course. Just thinking that one key could make the set more flexible. I understand that it may be a sort of unique interpretation.

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Yeah I'm afraid that this is too unique. The kits are locked except for errors in standard layout coverage.

It worth asking any way. Thank you.

[Oblotzky]

Soon 

[Lormania]

So pumped!!

[zslane]

Render needs blue spacebar. It's okay though, it's a common mistake. 

[cijanzen]

Render needs blue spacebar. It's okay though, it's a common mistake. 

Haha we went over this already! Don’t bring up the mod/alpha colour battle once again!

[zslane]

We did, and the renders still end up wrong.    )

[Remsky]

We did, and the renders still end up wrong.    )

Wont have to wait on a render if you buy the drop in a august and then wait several months. Or check the front page

[Oblotzky]

Render needs blue spacebar. It's okay though, it's a common mistake. 

This again.. happy now? probably asking for black legends on bottom rows next

[packman86]

Soon 

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Can your render this same keyset on the Silver M60? I need to know if I should start asking around for a colorswap

[zslane]

Yeah, black legends on the bottom two rows of modifiers would look great (and correct), but as I look at that render I now realize the aesthetic compromises that a 60% keyboard imposes on this keycap set makes things like blue spacebars and black legends rather moot. Without an F-row to properly "wrap" the gray alphas, I agree that a gray spacebar probably looks better. I am willing to concede that point, while also taking the position that anything called Space Cadet doesn't belong on any keyboard so small that it doesn't have an F-row... 

[xondat]

Yeah, black legends on the bottom two rows of modifiers would look great (and correct), but as I look at that render I now realize the aesthetic compromises that a 60% keyboard imposes on this keycap set makes things like blue spacebars and black legends rather moot. Without an F-row to properly "wrap" the gray alphas, I agree that a gray spacebar probably looks better. I am willing to concede that point, while also taking the position that anything called Space Cadet doesn't belong on any keyboard so small that it doesn't have an F-row... 

Not everything has to be historically accurate... Getting boring now.

This is GMK anyway, I think you're lost.

[Remsky]

Yeah, black legends on the bottom two rows of modifiers would look great (and correct), but as I look at that render I now realize the aesthetic compromises that a 60% keyboard imposes on this keycap set makes things like blue spacebars and black legends rather moot. Without an F-row to properly "wrap" the gray alphas, I agree that a gray spacebar probably looks better. I am willing to concede that point, while also taking the position that anything called Space Cadet doesn't belong on any keyboard so small that it doesn't have an F-row... 

I think you would be happier living in the 80's rather than the current day for keyboards it sounds like.

[zslane]

Aesthetically, yes. Functionality-wise, not so much. I appreciate standardized layouts and data protocols. But I think it goes without saying that switches and keycaps were far superior in design and construction back then (prior to IBM leading everything down the road to ruin in 1981). And keyboards just looked infinitely more impressive back then too.

[Oblotzky]

Soon 

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Can your render this same keyset on the Silver M60? I need to know if I should start asking around for a colorswap

Ask and you shall receive

[packman86]

Soon 

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Can your render this same keyset on the Silver M60? I need to know if I should start asking around for a colorswap

Ask and you shall receive

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Looks like I will be keeping my Silver M60. That looks awesome!

Thanks for the render!

[otanishock]

How about some render on Modern M0110?  )

[chouyu]

when it goes to GB，and where

[cijanzen]

when it goes to GB，and where

Massdrop. August.

[Oblotzky]

We go live on Friday, an E-Mail should go out later today.

Please note that Colevrak is being considered, but not yet guaranteed. CK is trying to work out favorable pricing for both sides.