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Title: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Tue, 24 March 2015, 15:56:22
This is a follow-on to the 1976 group buy that ran on PMK. IC/GB thread for the original 1976 set is here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65935.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65935.0)

Order/Commit Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1V3A18bgioHrdEX7eNuO81rJ6CzS2Itezf2fqzLyQA7g)

Some of the child deals did not tip on PMK due to cost. This GB includes revised versions of some of the failed kits with a lower cost with the hope that they will now meet MOQ. The sets include

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In addition, a new novelties kit will be added FREE if you order one of the above three sets.

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There is also a /r/MK kit for the reddit folks who weren't feeling the love during the PMK buy.

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Pricing is as follows:

Slang Kit
25 sets                    $24 ea
50 sets                    $14 ea
75 sets                    $12 ea
100 sets                  $10 ea

Specialty Kit
25 sets                    $24 ea
50 sets                    $17 ea
75 sets                    $15 ea

Winkeyless Kit
10 sets                    $36 ea
25 sets                    $21 ea
50 sets                    $14 ea
75 sets                    $12 ea

Novelties Kit
25 sets                    $2.00 ea
50 sets                    $1.50 ea
75 sets                    $1.25 ea
100 sets                  $1.20 ea

Reddit Kit
10 sets                    $3.75 ea
25 sets                    $2.00 ea
50 sets                    $1.50 ea
75 sets                    $1.25 ea
100 sets                  $1.20 ea

This group buy will be run "the traditional Geekhack way", and not through PMK. I will be using a "commit to buy at" order system as I did with the Rad Hard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62913.0) group buy. This means that the order form will allow you to specify the sets you are interested in along with the quantity and the price point at which you would commit to buy each set.

For example, you could specify that you would commit to buy 2 Slang kits, but only if the price reached the $14 (50 set) price point.

Order/Commit Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1V3A18bgioHrdEX7eNuO81rJ6CzS2Itezf2fqzLyQA7g)
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Tue, 24 March 2015, 16:09:21
Order Status: (as of 4/10)


Kit         Total   10  25  50 100
----------  -----  --- --- --- ---
Slang         12     0   7   5   1
Specialty     14     0   9   5   0
Winkeyless    12     5   3   4   0
Novelties     32     0  28   3   1
Reddit         5     0   4   1   0


Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 24 March 2015, 16:17:21
Approved pending order form.

Let's get these add-on sets made!   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: mashby on Tue, 24 March 2015, 16:31:45
Hot damn!
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:23:30
Form filled. :)
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Clicker on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:40:05
Is there any chance of adding a stepped Caps Lock key?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 06:39:48
Is there any chance of adding a stepped Caps Lock key?

Yes, the winkeyless kit really needs it.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 25 March 2015, 06:56:25
Is there any chance of adding a stepped Caps Lock key?

Its a slippery slope. I accommodated most requests in the initial buy and we ended up with a specialty kit that did not tip due to its size. The idea of this add-on is to keep costs low by only included the most needed caps. So...convince me that we should add the stepped caps lock.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Supergeek on Wed, 25 March 2015, 09:06:58
In for 2 of the novelties just because they're cute.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 09:12:06
Is there any chance of adding a stepped Caps Lock key?

Its a slippery slope. I accommodated most requests in the initial buy and we ended up with a specialty kit that did not tip due to its size. The idea of this add-on is to keep costs low by only included the most needed caps. So...convince me that we should add the stepped caps lock.

All my keyboards which use the winkeyless mods use the caps lock in the stepped position. It's a decision I make when I assemble a custom keyboard, that if I use 1.5u mods, I'm putting the caps lock in the stepped position. Most people do it that way with their KMACs, LZs, etc.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Data on Wed, 25 March 2015, 09:56:32
Order submitted!  Thanks for doing this Engi!
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: IMBoddy on Wed, 25 March 2015, 10:16:04
At first I read 1976 new thread and was all woo! they're taking a few more orders again! I can get the color numpad set! Then I re-read it. Good luck on the GB!
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: mashby on Wed, 25 March 2015, 10:23:44
I have to agree with JD that the stepped caps lock is pretty common for a winkeyless kit. I don't need one, just putting my two cents in.

Oh and order placed.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 25 March 2015, 11:20:19
All my keyboards which use the winkeyless mods use the caps lock in the stepped position. It's a decision I make when I assemble a custom keyboard, that if I use 1.5u mods, I'm putting the caps lock in the stepped position. Most people do it that way with their KMACs, LZs, etc.

I have to agree with JD that the stepped caps lock is pretty common for a winkeyless kit. I don't need one, just putting my two cents in.

Ok, I'm convinced, thanks. I am getting a quote on how much the kit would be with the stepped caps lock.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:22:10
What about international shipping? How much would that be?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:18:04
What about international shipping? How much would that be?

I used USPS First Class last time and it was about $16 US.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:44:07
What about international shipping? How much would that be?

I used USPS First Class last time and it was about $16 US.

Even for something small like the novelties and reddit sets?
I'm only interested in the novelties and reddit sets, might even buy a couple of each, but not with that shipping. Thanks for the answer, though.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:54:40
What about international shipping? How much would that be?

I used USPS First Class last time and it was about $16 US.

Even for something small like the novelties and reddit sets?
I'm only interested in the novelties and reddit sets, might even buy a couple of each, but not with that shipping. Thanks for the answer, though.

That price is shipped in a box. I could ship by padded envelope for about $12.
Have you had keycaps shipped internationally for less than that?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:04:39
What about international shipping? How much would that be?

I used USPS First Class last time and it was about $16 US.

Even for something small like the novelties and reddit sets?
I'm only interested in the novelties and reddit sets, might even buy a couple of each, but not with that shipping. Thanks for the answer, though.

That price is shipped in a box. I could ship by padded envelope for about $12.
Have you had keycaps shipped internationally for less than that?

PMK ships it for free for some reason, but I'm gonna assume it's a bug, although I had 2 numpad sets shipped that way already.
Some eBay sellers ship in first class for $6 or so, TechKeys ships at $9. Also Massdrop ships for $7-$8.

But they're not traceable although having a tracking number, maybe that's why, and I don't mind not being able to track it.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: pexon on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:06:30
Damn, I wanted to buy the base kit for this, but I needed a Winkeyless kit, but uncertainty of it reaching tipping put me off.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:27:35
I received the quote from SP to add the Stepped Caps Lock

10 sets                    $36 ea (+12)
25 sets                    $22 ea (+6)
50 sets                    $14 ea (+3)
75 sets                    $12 ea (+3)

If you guys are ok with that I will update the buy to include the stepped cap.

Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:33:09
I received the quote from SP to add the Stepped Caps Lock

10 sets                    $36 ea (+12)
25 sets                    $22 ea (+6)
50 sets                    $14 ea (+3)
75 sets                    $12 ea (+3)

If you guys are ok with that I will update the buy to include the stepped cap.



$6/ea at 25?! WTF SP...


But yeah, let's do it.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:42:15
More
I received the quote from SP to add the Stepped Caps Lock

10 sets                    $36 ea (+12)
25 sets                    $22 ea (+6)
50 sets                    $14 ea (+3)
75 sets                    $12 ea (+3)

If you guys are ok with that I will update the buy to include the stepped cap.



$6/ea at 25?! WTF SP...


But yeah, let's do it.

I know...guess that's how my original specialty kit got so out of hand.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:08:10
Form submitted. Very glad you went back and did this!
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Clicker on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:14:45
Stepped Caps key! Awesome definitely in. Is it being added to the Winkeyless set?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: ThatRusty on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:24:11
All I want from these kits is the Bummer Key, bummer.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: TheWG on Thu, 26 March 2015, 15:24:41
Hi!

I have two questions regarding this Add-On group buy:

1. When is the deadline?
2. How do I add more things to my order? Can I edit my old one or do I just submit a new one and they will be merged into one shipment if they reach MOQ? I realize that I probably can't remove stuff from my already placed order.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Fri, 27 March 2015, 06:55:20
Hi!

I have two questions regarding this Add-On group buy:

1. When is the deadline?
2. How do I add more things to my order? Can I edit my old one or do I just submit a new one and they will be merged into one shipment if they reach MOQ? I realize that I probably can't remove stuff from my already placed order.

1. April 15th
2. If you submit a new form, it will replace any previous order,  you can add and remove from your order.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:15:43
Is there a way for us to know where the prices are at, and what has tipped out of these buys? 
 
I would be okay buying a few duplicate sets if that is needed for ones to tip and just holding on to them to sell later.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Data on Sat, 28 March 2015, 21:28:03
Is there a way for us to know where the prices are at, and what has tipped out of these buys? 
 
I would be okay buying a few duplicate sets if that is needed for ones to tip and just holding on to them to sell later.
Watch the first post.  He'll update as we go.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Sat, 28 March 2015, 21:56:11
Is there a way for us to know where the prices are at, and what has tipped out of these buys? 
 
I would be okay buying a few duplicate sets if that is needed for ones to tip and just holding on to them to sell later.
Watch the first post.  He'll update as we go.

Status post updated.

Don't get too excited. We still have a few weeks left.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 22:03:34
So is this a traditional GB and not run on PMK? I'm a little confused about the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 28 March 2015, 22:06:43
So is this a traditional GB and not run on PMK? I'm a little confused about the OP.

That is exactly it.  It's run in a format similar to Massdrop, but entirely on geekhack in the traditional manner (with the addition of commit-at-price points).   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Sat, 28 March 2015, 22:16:27
So is this a traditional GB and not run on PMK? I'm a little confused about the OP.

Thanks for that feedback, I updated the OP to be a bit clearer.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 31 March 2015, 18:32:23
Really liked the specialty kit, joined even though I skipped 1976

Edit: Apologies, for a moment there I thought the profile was DSA, you can retract my submission
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Tue, 31 March 2015, 18:47:41
Really liked the specialty kit, joined even though I skipped 1976

Edit: Apologies, for a moment there I thought the profile was DSA, you can retract my submission

Thanks!

Edit: Shucks!
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 01 April 2015, 18:11:50
Really liked the specialty kit, joined even though I skipped 1976

Edit: Apologies, for a moment there I thought the profile was DSA, you can retract my submission
Was about to say +1, but then I read he backed out. WKL is rare enough that I'm in regardless of profile. And I'll get a specialty pack if it gets popular.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 05 April 2015, 13:49:39
Added my commits... been away on holiday. Want these sets :) Oh yeah.

I think they've turned out very well this time, good balance of cap numbers and costs.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: swill on Fri, 10 April 2015, 11:06:47
BumpyBump...  Lets get some more orders in peoples...
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 12 April 2015, 05:12:30
I don't recall seeing the first commit option when placing my order... I'd have chosen those given the option. I want these even if we get just a few orders.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:49:45
I don't recall seeing the first commit option when placing my order... I'd have chosen those given the option. I want these even if we get just a few orders.

Could you clarify that a little. Which commit option and what those/these refers to?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 12 April 2015, 13:55:42
I don't recall seeing the first commit option when placing my order... I'd have chosen those given the option. I want these even if we get just a few orders.

Could you clarify that a little. Which commit option and what those/these refers to?

Sorry, my bad, the kits I chose (slang, specialty, novelties) don't have an option to commit at 10 units.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:45:17
I don't recall seeing the first commit option when placing my order... I'd have chosen those given the option. I want these even if we get just a few orders.

Could you clarify that a little. Which commit option and what those/these refers to?

Sorry, my bad, the kits I chose (slang, specialty, novelties) don't have an option to commit at 10 units.

Yes, maybe my fault, I didn't feel there seemed to be interest in those kits at the 10 set price point. That may be a bad assumption on my part.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 25 April 2015, 21:16:21
were invoices sent out yet? what tipped?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 13 May 2015, 16:36:44
were invoices sent out yet? what tipped?

It's been a while but since the main set is getting delivered now will anything be done with this? Did anything tip?
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 13 May 2015, 16:42:27
Nothing tipped convincingly, so I thought I would sit on it until the actual caps arrived and see if we couldn't drum up a bit more interest. I will update all the info and see what we can do in the next few days. Things also got a bit busy with my surgery, so a few things slid down the priority list a bit. :-[
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Data on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:34:09
Don't even sweat it, engi. Interest will pick up once people have the main set in their hands and realize it's not quite complete without these additional kits.

Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: swill on Wed, 13 May 2015, 20:04:51
Don't even sweat it, engi. Interest will pick up once people have the main set in their hands and realize it's not quite complete without these additional kits.
That's what I think too. We can probably convince people to move their commitment up a tier as well and that will almost cover things getting rolling.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 13 May 2015, 22:46:58
Don't even sweat it, engi. Interest will pick up once people have the main set in their hands and realize it's not quite complete without these additional kits.
That's what I think too. We can probably convince people to move their commitment up a tier as well and that will almost cover things getting rolling.

Totally, completely agree. Mine arrived, and I LOVE it http://imgur.com/a/XawGX
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 14 May 2015, 19:49:11
Nothing tipped convincingly, so I thought I would sit on it until the actual caps arrived and see if we couldn't drum up a bit more interest. I will update all the info and see what we can do in the next few days. Things also got a bit busy with my surgery, so a few things slid down the priority list a bit. :-[

Oh man, hope everything goes well with the surgery. Don't worry about us and our silly keycaps for now. I must have missed a post somewhere in the thread. Much better that you get better first. Plus like the others have mentioned there might be more interest now that the caps are coming in. Wish you the best Engicoder!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Data on Thu, 04 June 2015, 08:49:06
This might be asking a lot, but when this add-on buy gets back in the spotlight... if there's any way SP can add a few 2u BLANKS in brown that would be swell.  I already emailed Melissa asking if there were any blanks left over from the initial production run and she said no.   :'(

Wanted to use this set on my Atomic and this is the only thing holding me back.  Or if anyone happened to buy the Ergodox kit and has a spare brown 2u key they won't be using, I'd love to take it off your hands ($$$).  Give me a shout.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: swill on Sun, 26 July 2015, 19:46:22
Just want to bump this back up into this era...  I know there are a bunch of us who are really depending on this getting a bit of traction.  This set is looking epic so I would love for it to be complete.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: trizkut on Sun, 26 July 2015, 19:47:26
Just want to bump this back up into this era...  I know there are a bunch of us who are really depending on this getting a bit of traction.  This set is looking epic so I would love for it to be complete.  :)

+1! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: Data on Mon, 27 July 2015, 08:18:34
Agreed.  Our 1976 is incomplete.  Make us whole, engi!
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: swill on Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:57:24
Looks like l am the bumper...  Really need this 1.75 brown shift to complete my keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] 1976 Add-On Slang-Specialty-Winkeyless
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 05 August 2015, 21:10:50
Yup, I'm all in for this anytime as well  :)