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Offline Help.Me

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I need some expert help! I'm looking for a modern mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome or a recommendation for a very good rubber dome board with a nice hard bump. The key should have it's tactile bump right at the start or very close to it like rubber domes do also the key travel should be 2.5 - 3mm long with 55g or more force to press. Is there such a mechanical keyboard? Or maybe there is a way to modify one so it feels like described? Here are the few I tried already: Romer-G, MX blue with o rings, MX brown with o rings, Razer mecha membrane.The closest so far was the Romer-G switch but the bump is waaaay to light and it needs only 45g.

Offline JianYang

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 03:28:46 »
Why not just get a rubber dome?

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 03:33:59 »
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Offline JoeriW

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 03:53:34 »
Get a topre board with BKE domes? Or get a slightly cheaper plum and put BKE domes in it but I'm not sure how well they fit.

Offline rxc92

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 09:40:59 »
55g Topre Realforce
 
 
Seconded, the 45g is reasonably tactile but the 55g is more so.

Offline ag36

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 13:03:47 »
Model M rubber dome is great.
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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 13:26:48 »
Model M rubber dome is great.

These were sometimes called "Enhanced Quiet Touch" and I agree that it would be a good choice for the OP.
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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 05 August 2018, 21:31:41 »
Look for an old BTC dome with slider.  Really good, easy to find and cheap.

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 06 August 2018, 07:27:29 »
Bottom actuation often leads to bad typing habits.

Make sure you make an attempt to bottom out with the least pressure necessary to actuate the keys.

Much of the time bottom out actuation leads people to press too hard and Hold down the keys.  This leads to rapid fatigue, and RSI such as carpel tunnel.

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 06 August 2018, 08:56:55 »
55g Topre Realforce
 
 
Seconded, the 45g is reasonably tactile but the 55g is more so.

55g Topre is a horrible switch, both for typing and gaming.  I'd like to say it's the perfect switch for someone who grew up on crappy  rubber domes and had to bottom out every keystroke with force for the thing to register, but it's not even that good.  They're so stiff and need so much force to actuate that every keystroke will bottom out.  (They're also specifically called out as bad for people with arthritis because of the impact on one's finger joints.)

45g Topre or BKE Ultra Lights are a reasonable choice.

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 06 August 2018, 11:52:11 »
Keyboards with Cherry MX Clear, purple Zealio, purple Outemu or Matias Quiet switches. The first three are Cherry MX and clones and feel a lot alike differing mostly after the tactile bump.
The Matias Quiet feels more like a rubber dome IMHO, being a clone of a vintage switch that was often confused for one.

All are relatively unusual, however. The Zealio are practically only for DIY enthusiasts.
The Matias switches are mostly in Matias' own keyboards such as the Matias QuietPro.

Topre are rubber domes, but good ones. The Topre Realforce keyboards have good build quality and you get 6KRO (or NKRO these days?).

Offline jamster

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 00:59:48 »
High quality rubber dome with high actuation force? Topre 55 is exactly that.

IMO no Cherry/Cherry-type switch feels like rubber dome to me. Some feel good, but certainly not like quality rubber dome. Ergo-clears feel vaguely similar, but there's too much lateral movement over Topre to give the same quality impressions. Oh, and the higher force MX style switches, because they have linear springs, will ramp up in force with key travel and not feel anything like rubber dome.
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 August 2018, 01:03:16 by jamster »

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 03:08:55 »
Look for an old BTC dome with slider.  Really good, easy to find and cheap.

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Offline Leslieann

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 05:10:06 »
Bottom actuation often leads to bad typing habits.

Make sure you make an attempt to bottom out with the least pressure necessary to actuate the keys.

Much of the time bottom out actuation leads people to press too hard and Hold down the keys.  This leads to rapid fatigue, and RSI such as carpel tunnel.
You mean like all those people pounding MX reds?

Yes, bottom activation can make you press too hard (I hate analog buttons on consoles), but I don't think I've ever seen a rubber dome that bottoms out as hard as MX switches can. Rubber domes give even after bottoming out, MX switches are like hitting a brick wall due to hard plastic crashing into hard plastic, and without a tactile bump most people have no way to know if it activated for sure unless they bottom out.

If you want to talk about stress injuries, I would argue the harsh bottom out is worse.
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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 06:44:00 »
Topre is good, but it's not rubber dome, the feeling is different, so I think it's better for you to try it first and then decide. The only issue it's hard to find a Topre keyboard to test, I ordered mine without trying it, and it's okay, but I prefer other mechanical keyboards.

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 07:26:09 »
Bottom actuation often leads to bad typing habits.

Much of the time bottom out actuation leads people to press too hard and Hold down the keys.  This leads to rapid fatigue, and RSI such as carpel tunnel.

But in the thread about whether mechanical keebs alone are healthier...

Nope,  if it's flat, and NOT Split,  then it is just as harmful as any other flat keyboard..

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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 07 August 2018, 20:23:58 »
In terms of split and extra tactile though, matias ergo pro with silent tactile might be a good choice but reviews says it chatters.
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Re: Looking for mechanical keyboard that feels like rubber dome but better.
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 15 August 2018, 12:31:34 »
BTC5100c has an awesome key-feel, they are also incredibly cheap!