A ginormous iPod touch just seems silly to me. It seems awkward to hold, doesn't give you want you really need to fully enjoy web content (java and flash), and doesn't really bring anything remarkable to the table.
I am typically pretty quick to drink the Apple koolaid...but I just can't get on board with the ipad.
developers working on staking a spot as an early landmark developer
Will they? Why bother? Developers can't sell direct to the users. The users can't choose freely what apps they can buy. Because there's this damned company sitting between them controlling everything (and skimming off profit to boot.)
The public feels they should buy these devices to keep up with the times. Developers like you feel they should cater to them to get a foothold. Both sides are in the same boat, having their strings pulled by the same puppeteers.
It sounds like it will find it's niche, and/or will be adopted because its new-tech. I believe more capable devices came before it and most certainly will come after, but because apple threw this down this type of device will finally get some actual meaningful attention.
I'm not angry because this product exists. I'm angry because it could be so much better if it didn't have limitations built in due to the contemptuous attitude its makers have towards us.Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
And this is what I'm starting to believe. Some company with a powerful halo has to take the risk to go all in on this and I think the only company that can do that right now is Apple and I do think their window of opportunity is limited. They're not an underdog anymore and the more commonplace they become, the more that halo will lose its luster.
You know, before mobile phones when people traveled home from work and they arrived home, they said, Hi honey, I'm home, what's on tv tonight? Now they call and say Hi honey, I'll be home in 10 minutes, what's on tv tonight?
This. I've found that the sort of constant communication afforded by things like mobile phones, instant messaging and [shudders] facebook has probably done more damage to people's social skills than it has to facilitate them.
I see no future in this device.
It does nothing well. At all.
So as you can see, it's just a mediocre product.
iBeer App Developer has made over half a million dollars to date. (http://www.benjitao.com/2009/04/all-time-top-iphone-paid-apps-april-2009/)
Why are there so many French Maids in Japan? Must be a country of perverts.
CONGRATS! I was getting worried about the Geek in Geekhack.
The other niche market that it addresses is photographers. In the field photo backup and preview. At least that's my excuse if I ever get one. I'm still gonna wait for more on-hands reviews by the DPReview folks.
So nobody here watches movies or TV?
150,000 apps. I have 300, that's .002%
Plus if I get bored I'll just take it apart.Show Image(http://s1.guide-images.ifixit.com/igi/aTiq1EubJofTjtN1.large)
Does it have a calculator? :smile:
I want one of these (http://www.koreaittimes.com/story/8080/counterfeit-ipad-china-vs-genuine-ipad-america).
LOL, it looks like some actually did make the MacBook Wheel (http://www.theonion.com/articles/onion-news-network,14299/)!
They put out tons of stuff that never made it anywhere like the Apple TV, the Mac Mini,
Mac minis are nice. I've owned several of them (currently have one hooked up to my TV in my home office).
So as you can see, hooked up to a TV it's still really not that functional compared to what you can get for the same price.
Sorry ItlnStln, no iPad for you unless you want to move out of Texas. ;)
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I told my wife I can't buy one yet until I irritate everyone at Geekhack for a few more months.
This is infinitely better than DIP switches.
The reason why it has no flash is because of a deliberate decision to eschew it in favor of HTML5. Hardware reasons are invalid, because devices using relatively similar hardware such as the Nokia N900 can do it.
-Accessed emailed photos to show obscure details while standing in an office meeting after walking 20 mins. Saved time and hassle. IPhone pics would be too small, carrying a laptop and jamming it into someones face to show the issue will cost them extra, not a good option. Settled issue immediately and stopped argument. Got increased cost approval while everyone was present and avoided 2 days of emails/finger-pointing.
You hit the nail on the head. Form factor is an issue. When someone is looking at their phone, it's sort of personal, room just for one. People understand that. The laptop creates a wall, and is a headache if you are moving around, it's prohibitive. The iPad is actually pretty small, but it's ALL screen. Even the thin-ness helps. Weird, I know. Also, with body language, I included the others in the office without the need to do the "laptop huddle" which no one cares for. It was a real surprise benefit and success, I'm still thinking about it.
Hey, now we have APPLE HATE spambots!
Realtors know how to show JPEG pictures. At 6% commission they aren't THAT dumb.
And you CAN author with Adobe Flash Professional CS5 for the iPad. (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/authoring_for_multiple_screen_sizes.html) April 12th. This means Photoshop CS5 should be here soon. Upgrade time for me even though I despise Photoshop's UI.
Apple Aperature included iPad support in their latest release (http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1269634367.html). Unforturnately I'm on Adobe Lightroom. Wish these guys could just get along.
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EDIT> BS Confirmed. In true Apple advertising style, some steps were omitted, namely: "My daughter likes playing with my iPhone, but this was her very first encounter with an iPad"
EDIT2> Note the title: "A 2.5 Year-Old Has A First Encounter with An iPad". It's his daughter. He described her as an anomyous 2.5 year old. But he tells us the new toy is an iPad. He's more proud of his iPad than his daughter. Disturbing.
BTW they didn't show the part where she tried the ALPS keyboard.
She started crying uncontrollably at that point.
Hmmm...
My 3 year old can connect RGB cables, power on a hacked Xbox, navigate menus to launch XBMC, navigate our network to load My Little Pony or any of hundreds of movie titles.
Hmmm...
Mac has done some clever marketing here.
It's a niche product and I think mainly for surfing the web and sharing photos and stuff. It's very user friendly and I'm sure that Apple will get richer simply from the tons of Apps that can be downloaded for the device. It's fast for most users and it's easy to pass around. Not so with a laptop.....
With 3G, it will be the ultimate brief case accessory. Internet anywhere for only $14.99/mo.
I rationalize this by saying its a niche product (which I think it is; in my view not a substitute for a laptop).I think Steve Jobs himself has even said so much... that it's not supposed to replace a laptop.
I think Steve Jobs himself has even said so much... that it's not supposed to replace a laptop.
Here's something to remember. It's easy to look at the iPad or anything that Apple makes as tech for dummies. They sure like to promote that image (though in more glamorous terms), but a lot of stuff run on Apple hardware is anything but simple.
It's all about the apps. The number of buttons on your computer may be one, a thousand, or none, but the second you're running a complex program on it, how much you love or hate the OS is irrelevant.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us here had kids or were related to kids who really knew their way around a desktop. Most of us here are gear heads and our genes are no doubt partly responsible for that. That doesn't mean every kid will be like that nor should it mean that every kid should be like that. Your brain is a finite resource. A lot of people are going to be far better off focusing all their energies on making music, developing world champion athletic skills, or shaping iron rather than keeping their PC maintenance skills up to date.
It takes all types.
For better or worse. I agree that simplicity isnt all bad even for geeks, but what I worry about is the fate of geeky tinkerers like me. I hope there will always be someone out there making open hw and sw for people to mod at will.
well maybe i'm looking too far ahead. But for instance, the new win7 phone doesnt have user-replaceable batteries. Something that MS clearly took from the apple model.
That was a prototype. The WinMo7 specs don't specify one way or the other how manufacturers can implement battery installations. Sure the proto used did not have a user-replaceable battery, but when HTC, Motorola, etc. begin releasing phones, they may or may not have a user-replaceable battery; it's up to the manufacturers' discretion.
I'm looking for big things from WinMo7. I really like WebOS on my Palm, but the hardware is underpowered, and I don't think they will be around when I get my new phone later this year. I am not very impressed with the iPhone OS. That, and the iPhone is not an option on Sprint. Android will be nice, too, but we'll have to see what hardware Sprint offers later this year.
i dont think as an adult i should be forced to pay $100 at the genius bar for some 16 year old kid to do it for me ;)
I'm no tree hugger, but even I can see there's a huge problem looming with the 'appliance' model of pumping out gadgets that become obsolete within months
Young people don't need to worry about the world we leave behind for them. They are going to do an infinitely better job of ruining the planet than we ever could.
You guys are real downers.
You guys are real downers.
Of course this is all concept junk. By the time it ships Apple will be onto Rev 3 of their product.
Also MS's upcoming courier looks neater and neater:
article: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/microsofts-courier-digital-journal-exclusive-pictures-and-de/ (http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/microsofts-courier-digital-journal-exclusive-pictures-and-de/)
You can hook up a regular usb keyboard (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/24/ipad-camera-connection-kit-notes-and-demo-video/) to the iPad if you get an Apple iPad Camera Connection Kit. So when can we expect a picture of the iPad being used with a real keyboard?
The G-Pad?
Youtube supports HTML5, which is the thing that Apple is pushing to replace Flash.
Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up. From the way I hear HTML5 talked about I thought it was yet to become available. So me and my program neewbness is going to hide behind my chair now XD
haahaa
Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up. From the way I hear HTML5 talked about I thought it was yet to become available. So me and my program neewbness is going to hide behind my chair now XD
haahaa
The last I checked youtube had it as an experimental feature. I was surprised by your post because I didn't know that youtube would handle the iPad transparently (or is it the other way around? hehe)
For now, it's just a device that is cool but we don't need because doesn't replace or outperform existing devices. The iphone had/has the ability to replace your iPod, PDA, cell phone, home phone and take on many functions of your computer while being in your pocket. The Ipad doesn't do this and won't fit in your pocket. It has no proper input device, onscreen input is "lived with" on a phone but is not ideal and certainly no replacement for a keyboard and mouse. But you say "you can use a keyboard with an ipad" but the moment you do that, it loses it's cool "pad-ness" and becomes a very wimpy competitor to a tablet or netbook... and with apple's refusal to let you add storage via memory card slot or install apps that YOU want, it's very big brother, very hyped and though cool is not what iSteve says it is.
It may open the door so iPad v.3 or v.5 or v.25 could do more of what they say it will, time will tell.
The iPhone doesn't really replace anything but an iPod. It's painful to use any touch device for anything you really need- to be prodctive you need a physical keyboard. It can't replace a PDA because it can't multitask (and OS 4.0 doesn't bring real multitasking). It can't replace a cellphone because it's a bad cellphone, it drops calls and has short battery life. It doesn't have a user-replaceable battery. It's too big for a phone (and has low resolution for its screen size) and too small to browse as well as a small tablet. It's locked to the App Store. It doesn't support Flash, so you're locked out of many e-commerce and other sites. It doesn't have memory card support, so you're tied to a PC.
It and the iPad are just fashion accessories for the technology-impaired. At the end of the day they're both just overpriced toys.
And the techies are right about another thing: the iPad is not a laptop. It’s not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it’s infinitely more convenient for consuming it — books, music, video, photos, Web, e-mail and so on.
David Pogue. NY Times review. When the PC first came out you guys would still be holding onto your punch cards.
I preferred this video. Here's a Yank who gets irony. :smile:Well, there's irony and there's too much of it.
It's a computing device. It can do stuff other devices can, but not as good and it's locked down. Get over it.
It's great for wasting time :)
Have the proper attitude when you enter the store.
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The store clerks will all start shouting. ACKKKK! It's a UNIX BEARD!!!
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko#t=35s) will be skc when he's unable to play cargo bridge on his ipad. :)Show Image(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x240/pawnipt/CargoBridge-level16.jpg)
I like playing pinball on the IPad. Try that on your laptop you non-Apple-fanboy losers!!
I like playing pinball on the IPad. Try that on your laptop you non-Apple-fanboy losers!!
I want to see a Model M go through the blender. I suspect the steel plate is more than they can deal with.
You mean the one that comes standard with Windows? Yeah, I play that on my laptop.
I still don't get why all the SW developers here aren't jumping on the bandwagon.
Money talks.
Hauppauge shares up 60% after announcing iPad app to stream TV signals directly to iPad. (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64D4X820100514)
Idea: attempt to obtain iPad from Apple claiming it is an engineering sample for compatibility testing.
Gotta see Hangover! Don't let your son see it though. I let my 15 year old get through it but stopped it before the ending credits.Show Image(http://brewblog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/the_hangover.jpg)
I wonder if he was stealing some glances over to his right :))
I think there are PLENTY of people developing Apps for Apple. I've lost track of how much I've paid so that my son can have everything he wants on his ITouch.
Now you're talking. Also, if he had some IBM keyboards with him instead of the iTouch, he would have made a real impression.
dating tip #285: always carry M15s to impress someone.
Well this is interesting... apparently the iPad got its start before the iPhone did (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-in-opening-interview-session-at-d8-conference/)
From that link:
"On AT&T's network: "iPhone is the first phone where we separated the carrier from the hardware. They worry about the network, while we worry about the phone."
So let me get this right. They tie the iPhone to a single carrier - AT&T - and they call that separation. Riiiiiight...
AT&T announces the end of unlimited data because people actually used it. (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6513H120100602)
Seems AT&T define unlimited the same way Apple defines separation.
I've never understood why they make this out to be a problem. All they have to do is give priority to users who are using the least bandwidth at that moment. Problem solved, while allowing optimum use of the existing infrastructure.
Steve Ballmer (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20006832-64.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20) being right for once?
Nothing that people do on a PC today is going to get less relevant tomorrow.
Does anyone remember when Apple was dying end of last millennium, and MS saved them?
THe ipad's a giant iphone/ipod, which I already own. I don't get it. I don't see using any the apps I have on my ipod in a bigger format. The only reason I tolerate the os/crappy programs on the ipod is it's tiny thin format. I'll wait for oqo or someone to come up with a super flat tablet pc that runs full windows, that isn't limited by not having flash, and having a crappy capacitive touchscreen. It shouldn't be that hard, there are already slates that are almost there.
The only difference between my hp tx2500z, and the ipad is that the hp is thicker, less heat efficient, and has a shorter single batter lifein every functional way, it's 1000 times better. It also cost about the same.
It is not always about what a device can do. How it does it matters too.
Bingo. This is how Steve Jobs makes money. This is why the common Windows user will never understand the advantages of the MacOS, and it's the same reason Porsche succeeds in a world with the Miata and MR2. It's why rubber domes outsell mechanicals, despite few people returning to domes after trying a mechanical: Once you test drive "better," you find it hard to go back to acceptable. And people who are satisfied by acceptable are fearful of admitting to Better, because it invalidates accepting the acceptable.
"But I can do all that on my Miata/Logitech/Windows machine, why should I pay more for a Boxster/Filco/MacOS?"
"I can surf the net without Flash on my $10 Windows CE tablet. I can do all that. Why buy an iPad?"
Because it's better.
According to what you've said ricercar, where do the people who have used and recognize the superiority of the Boxster but prefer the Miata fit in?
What if the Miata driver prefers his car because Mazda is a Ford subsidiary (something totally irrelevant to the product itself)?
What if, putting this more into iPad-class stuff, we're talking about a Chevy Chevette vs. a Ford Tempo? Sure, the Chevette has all that "world car" stuff going for it, but due to some failure on the part of the designers my winter boots happen to press both brake and accelerator pedals simultaneously whereas the same problem doesn't exist in the Tempo because the designers didn't put tiny pedals immediately beside each other?
A pretty Chevy Chevette is still a Chevy Chevette...
If microsoft completely redesigned windows from scratch like Apple did for OSX, then obviously it would be faster. I guess some people don't realize that.
Bingo. This is how Steve Jobs makes money. This is why the common Windows user will never understand the advantages of the MacOS, and it's the same reason Porsche succeeds in a world with the Miata and MR2. It's why rubber domes outsell mechanicals, despite few people returning to domes after trying a mechanical: Once you test drive "better," you find it hard to go back to acceptable. And people who are satisfied by acceptable are fearful of admitting to Better, because it invalidates accepting the acceptable.
Miley has one. Ya GOTTA get one now.
For photo/video backup on the road I decided the iPad is not ready for primetime. (http://www.bythom.com/2010%20Nikon%20News.htm)
Yesterday Apple and its carrier partners took pre-orders for more than 600,000 of Apple’s new iPhone 4. It was the largest number of pre-orders Apple has ever taken in a single day and was far higher than we anticipated ...
I haven't seen sales figures but Android runs on a whole bunch of different products...it's possible that collectively all Android-running products outsell iPhones.
And so they should, it's a platform that can actually do stuff...
And so they should, it's a platform that can actually do stuff...
And so they should, it's a platform that can actually do stuff...
Nonsense! What about BROWSING THE WEB [strike]on youtube [/strike], playing GAMES [strike]that suck and aren't even worth the $5[/strike], or doing SOCIAL THINGS like phoning, texting, or posting junk on facebook [strike] which is a serious waste of time [/strike].
or doing SOCIAL THINGS like phoning, texting, or posting junk on facebook [strike] which is a serious waste of time [/strike].
Physical activities aren't nearly as fun as computer games.
You're doin it wrong.
Ha! I need to change my nick right now. There's no way I can compete with that. Next time a hot, young woman asks me for a drink, I'll know to just kick the ***** in the shins and toss her the pretzel bowl. That's how you get the ladies.
Perhaps there are technical and/or cost issues with large touchscreens?
Also their touch screen implementation beats all the Androids.
Palm's WebOS has Apple beat, too. That might be why Apple hired one of their designers. Then again, the guy who headed up WebOS was from Apple.
Intel doing software?
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But Intel made much better processors than Crapple. Compare a Pentium III with a G3 and Crapple's just beat into the dirt.
But Intel made much better processors than Crapple. Compare a Pentium III with a G3 and Crapple's just beat into the dirt.
There's an easy fix for that.Show Image(http://artflutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/handsfree3.jpg)
My GF got all excited about multitasking coming to the iPhone.
Multitasking? Like making calls and holding it at the same time? :evil:
As I always tell Welly, "The Customer Is NOT Always Right".
The iPad is nice but iSSH sucks. The connection freezes, or it suddenly darkens and needs a total restart to fix, or it goes crazy if you tip the iPad / change orientation. Is there any decent ssh / terminal app out there ?
$13B in PROFITS this Quarter.
I'd say the OP was right.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203806504577181193691941660.html
My AAPL thanks all of you that bought iPads for Xmas.
Maybe give Prompt (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prompt/id421507115?mt=8) a whirl?