[GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Complete)

[chromatically]

Got an update re: spring lube. Mkawa will be shipping out the spring lube package by the end of the week, so I should be receiving the package first/second week of November. Once I get those vials in, orders with spring lube will be shipped out asap.

ahhhh no wonder... I've been thinking the shipping has just been taking extraordinarily long
thanks zeal!!

[scoobs0311]

Switches arrived today, they feel excellent! Thanks again Zeal! Hope to have time to put these on my v60 tonight

[suicidal_orange]

Package sent Monday, arrived a day early today nicely packaged in a perfect condition box - thanks Zeal, and DHL!

Sadly no Bingecap and I do have a complaint - some idiot (me) ordered 62g clears.  Between the smoothness and light springs only my pinkies notice any resistance at all pressing them )  At least there are only 20 of them...  The 67g purples are much more to my liking and I also got some 100g springs which seem a bit stiff on a loose switch, but I might like them in a board.

Now I need to work out what to do with them!

[Butter]

Got the switches today as well  so much tape

[swimmingbird]

Just got my shipping notification - very excited!

[kishagi]

Just got mine today, realized that I messed up and chose the 62g option for the clear zealio switches rather than the 67g. Oh well, its a good thing that I bought those 67g springs from Massdrop. Thanks so much ZealPC! Now I can properly attempt to restore my "butchered" (read: I suck at unsoldering) Filco TKL board.

[Ngt]

Hi Zeal!

Thanks for the GB. I received my email announcing shipment last week. However the mail did not contain a tracking number nor the link given. If I look at the page the tracking info are empty. Is that normal? Do you mind to look it up, please?

Thank you.

[Zeal]

Just got mine today, realized that I messed up and chose the 62g option for the clear zealio switches rather than the 67g. Oh well, its a good thing that I bought those 67g springs from Massdrop. Thanks so much ZealPC! Now I can properly attempt to restore my "butchered" (read: I suck at unsoldering) Filco TKL board.

67g springs on Massdrop will be vastly different from my custom springs. Massdrop's version is based on actuation point, whereas my weighting system (along with other Korean springs) are based on bottom out force.

Hi Zeal!

Thanks for the GB. I received my email announcing shipment last week. However the mail did not contain a tracking number nor the link given. If I look at the page the tracking info are empty. Is that normal? Do you mind to look it up, please?

Thank you.

Hi Ngt,

The shipping method you chose [Canada Post Int'l Air - (6-10 Business Days, No Tracking/Insurance)] does not come with tracking. From my experience, it usually delivers within a week for European countries. That's why "N/A" is used, meaning not applicable/not available.

[blai5000]

Just got my order of 90x 62g L!  Can't wait to use them!

[thaddeus]

I cannot resist sharing my potato pix



Unfortunately there isn't an empty PCB anywhere in the house I would LOVE to rip the browns out of my ES-87, but I purchased the Zealios for a 60% I have in mind...what do 

*EDIT: And because it has not been said enough, THANK YOU ZEAL. This is my first group buy experience and it has gone so buttery smooth. I fear you may have spoiled me for the reality of other GBs  )

[Ngt]

Just got mine today, realized that I messed up and chose the 62g option for the clear zealio switches rather than the 67g. Oh well, its a good thing that I bought those 67g springs from Massdrop. Thanks so much ZealPC! Now I can properly attempt to restore my "butchered" (read: I suck at unsoldering) Filco TKL board.

67g springs on Massdrop will be vastly different from my custom springs. Massdrop's version is based on actuation point, whereas my weighting system (along with other Korean springs) are based on bottom out force.

Hi Zeal!

Thanks for the GB. I received my email announcing shipment last week. However the mail did not contain a tracking number nor the link given. If I look at the page the tracking info are empty. Is that normal? Do you mind to look it up, please?

Thank you.

Hi Ngt,

The shipping method you chose [Canada Post Int'l Air - (6-10 Business Days, No Tracking/Insurance)] does not come with tracking. From my experience, it usually delivers within a week for European countries. That's why "N/A" is used, meaning not applicable/not available.

Haha, ok. Silly me. I forgot that I didn't choose a shipping with tracking ... Thanks for clarifying that for me.

[suicidal_orange]

Just got mine today, realized that I messed up and chose the 62g option for the clear zealio switches rather than the 67g. Oh well, its a good thing that I bought those 67g springs from Massdrop. Thanks so much ZealPC! Now I can properly attempt to restore my "butchered" (read: I suck at unsoldering) Filco TKL board.

You too?  It's like the 62g just want to be bought )

[E3E]

Just got mine today, realized that I messed up and chose the 62g option for the clear zealio switches rather than the 67g. Oh well, its a good thing that I bought those 67g springs from Massdrop. Thanks so much ZealPC! Now I can properly attempt to restore my "butchered" (read: I suck at unsoldering) Filco TKL board.

You too?  It's like the 62g just want to be bought )

Hehe. 62g is definitely the most popular spring weight for Korean springs in general. Even though 67g springs are seeming to get a ton of love, they still aren't beating out the demand for 62g.

[Oobly]

I actually really like the 62g version. I'm happy with the 65g, but the 67g is too heavy for my tastes. I get the "Topre-like" comments, but I'm not a Topre fan anyway, so... To me it seems the 62g does have the most tactility and the smoothess makes them sooooo nice to use. With th 67g it feels like the stronger spring masks a little of the tactility. Glad I bought a few of them to test, though, otherwise it would have bugged me not knowing. They all have good "pop" thanks to the stronger Gateron contact leaf and smoothness.

A Clear slider actually has just a touch more tactility than the stock purple, but the rough surface really lets it down. If you look really closely at both together you can see the tactile bump on the Clear stem is just a touch more prominent and the purple a little less, but they're very, very similar and like I said, the smoothness trumps the bump.

In case anyone thinks I'm being overly critical of these, it's simply that they're so good that you can even notice the small details of the movement and feeling of them.

[UTEster750]

I actually really like the 62g version. I'm happy with the 65g, but the 67g is too heavy for my tastes. I get the "Topre-like" comments, but I'm not a Topre fan anyway, so... To me it seems the 62g does have the most tactility and the smoothess makes them sooooo nice to use. With th 67g it feels like the stronger spring masks a little of the tactility. Glad I bought a few of them to test, though, otherwise it would have bugged me not knowing. They all have good "pop" thanks to the stronger Gateron contact leaf and smoothness.

A Clear slider actually has just a touch more tactility than the stock purple, but the rough surface really lets it down. If you look really closely at both together you can see the tactile bump on the Clear stem is just a touch more prominent and the purple a little less, but they're very, very similar and like I said, the smoothness trumps the bump.

In case anyone thinks I'm being overly critical of these, it's simply that they're so good that you can even notice the small details of the movement and feeling of them.

Can't stop playing with the one 67g switch I have on my desk, really enjoying it! 

[keshley]

Shipping notification yesterday, and that's with a cable ordered too

So, for those that ordered cables as well, Zeal is making his way through. 

[Xonar]

You're the man, Zeal.




Don't have them on a board yet but so far they're absolutely the best MX-type switch I've ever tried.



Almost ready to construct my Zealio 60%...

[Dee1]

Got an update re: spring lube. Mkawa will be shipping out the spring lube package by the end of the week, so I should be receiving the package first/second week of November. Once I get those vials in, orders with spring lube will be shipped out asap.

Awesome! That means I can get mine soon!

[thaddeus]

You're the man, Zeal.

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Don't have them on a board yet but so far they're absolutely the best MX-type switch I've ever tried.

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Almost ready to construct my Zealio 60%...

Ooooo, you're making me drool. What PCB is that?

[KaminKevCrew]

You're the man, Zeal.

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Don't have them on a board yet but so far they're absolutely the best MX-type switch I've ever tried.

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Almost ready to construct my Zealio 60%...

Ooooo, you're making me drool. What PCB is that?

Looks like a white sprit facew to me (I built a zealio board with one myself.

[rpeterclark]

You're the man, Zeal.

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Don't have them on a board yet but so far they're absolutely the best MX-type switch I've ever tried.

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Almost ready to construct my Zealio 60%...

Ooooo, you're making me drool. What PCB is that?

Looks like a white sprit facew to me (I built a zealio board with one myself.

That's a b.face. It's got that sweet RGB underlighting.

[KaminKevCrew]

You're the man, Zeal.

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Don't have them on a board yet but so far they're absolutely the best MX-type switch I've ever tried.

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Almost ready to construct my Zealio 60%...

Ooooo, you're making me drool. What PCB is that?

Looks like a white sprit facew to me (I built a zealio board with one myself.

That's a b.face. It's got that sweet RGB underlighting.

Oooo! Get me in on that action! (aka, post pics when it's built, I wanna see!)

[suicidal_orange]

Just got mine today, realized that I messed up and chose the 62g option for the clear zealio switches rather than the 67g. Oh well, its a good thing that I bought those 67g springs from Massdrop. Thanks so much ZealPC! Now I can properly attempt to restore my "butchered" (read: I suck at unsoldering) Filco TKL board.

You too?  It's like the 62g just want to be bought )

Hehe. 62g is definitely the most popular spring weight for Korean springs in general. Even though 67g springs are seeming to get a ton of love, they still aren't beating out the demand for 62g.

Maybe so but we both wanted 67g and somehow landed up ordering 62s!

I actually really like the 62g version. I'm happy with the 65g, but the 67g is too heavy for my tastes.

Sounds like I should try a 62g purple, but the 62g clears are like typing on air to my fingers.  I need a bump or at least a noticeable amount of resistance but there's nothing there, and it will only get worse once gravity and the weight of a keycap are added )  Some people will surely love the lack of effort required though - it's good to have options!

[Butter]

Quick question what is the different between Zealio linear and gateron red? Other then the clear tops and bottom.

[KaminKevCrew]

Quick question what is the different between Zealio linear and gateron red? Other then the clear tops and bottom.

And a translucent slider!

[trenzafeeds]

Quick question what is the different between Zealio linear and gateron red? Other then the clear tops and bottom.

Support for RGB LED's is big. I think the springs are different as well (as in Zealios have gold springs), but I could be wrong about what Zeal's springs are actually made of.

[KaminKevCrew]

Quick question what is the different between Zealio linear and gateron red? Other then the clear tops and bottom.

Support for RGB LED's is big. I think the springs are different as well (as in Zealios have gold springs), but I could be wrong about what Zeal's springs are actually made of.

I'm pretty sure they are gold plated. Pure gold wouldn't make a very good spring, as far as I'm aware.

[trenzafeeds]

Quick question what is the different between Zealio linear and gateron red? Other then the clear tops and bottom.

Support for RGB LED's is big. I think the springs are different as well (as in Zealios have gold springs), but I could be wrong about what Zeal's springs are actually made of.

I'm pretty sure they are gold plated. Pure gold wouldn't make a very good spring, as far as I'm aware.

Should have made it clear, I meant gold plated, not pure gold obv

[Zeal]

Quick question what is the different between Zealio linear and gateron red? Other then the clear tops and bottom.

Slightly heavier spring with more spring options. The spring weight is in the "goldy-locks" area between a Gateron red and black spring. They're also gold plated for an extra dash of bling

[KaminKevCrew]

I figure I should finally get around to taking some pics of the board I built. 67g purple Zealios.

Thanks Zeal! These are definitely my favorite switches, by far!!! (you might be getting an order for 100 or so from me here pretty soon, when Mira ever happens )

I hope that the pics aren't too potato. I took them with my phone...

[Vozella]

You're out of stock of the 62g variant of the Purple Zealio switches. How long until they're back in stock? I'd like to buy the Zealio Switch Sampler Pack but I want to wait until the 62g variant are included.

[KaminKevCrew]

You're out of stock of the 62g variant of the Purple Zealio switches. How long until they're back in stock? I'd like to buy the Zealio Switch Sampler Pack but I want to wait until the 62g variant are included.

Zeal said that they will be back in Stock whenever he makes an order for restocking. Could be a while (my guess would be that he'll order more once most of the switches are running low on stock...)

[steve.v]

Where can I get the latest and greatest lube for these purple zealios? 

[romevi]

Where can I get the latest and greatest lube for these purple zealios?

Zeal's store!

[kekstee]

My 67g order arrived yesterday. I usually dislike stronger switches, but I think between a red build I have pending and my HHKB those were the right choice and offer something sightly different.

Comparing these 67g Zealios to stock Clears, they are bit lighter, the scratchiness is gone and the bump somehow feels snappier due to a longer travel from bump to cushioning/bottom.

With some 62g Springs I had the scratchiness issue of Clears gets much more pronounced. The spring sometimes feels like it has difficulties pushing the switch back over the bump. Not so with Zealios. But the bump suffered a bit here, it doesn't feel so much at the top like with the 67g version. I wish I had one or two 65g or even actual 62g Zealios for comparison, but thats what I could gather from my order Now I just need that PCB leaving Korea already.

Note though that I'd take the 62g version over Browns any day.

[ika]

Has anyone looked into why some people are getting switches that actuate above the bump? I thought it was a problem with people who were modding these switches, but I discovered that I have one such switch in my =/+ key. I can barely brush the key and it will actuate. Unfortunately it's in my b.87 so I can't open the switch top to see what's wrong; I'll probably have to desolder the thing to fix it. Is it an issue with the switch leaf? Bent out of shape or something?

[cjhard]

Has anyone looked into why some people are getting switches that actuate above the bump? I thought it was a problem with people who were modding these switches, but I discovered that I have one such switch in my =/+ key. I can barely brush the key and it will actuate. Unfortunately it's in my b.87 so I can't open the switch top to see what's wrong; I'll probably have to desolder the thing to fix it. Is it an issue with the switch leaf? Bent out of shape or something?

I'm kinda glad I'm not the only one... I'm not entirely incompetent yay!

I'll be buying a multimeter (or a multimeter kit) before my next Zealio's build to make sure my switches are consistently post-bump actuated before soldering.

[Nufrifin]

Got my order!

They feel very nice, but it seems that QC has to be done by whoever makes the keyboard, one out of a 100 had a weird issue, switch was permanently closed.
If you were to push the slider in a little, it would open, and then close again quickly.
I opened it up and found this (healthy slider in the back for comparison)



So, I would recommend to order slightly more than required and test every switch before using them.

[strict]

Finally got around to lubing my Zealios, went with GHer's thick lube and left in the 67g spring. It feels eerily similar to 45g Topre. This Phantom is now definitely my favorite MX board, it amazes me how obscenely smooth lubed Zealios are. I would say normal zealios are about 85% as smooth as reasonably possible, properly lubed they go to like 95%. There's definitely a noticable difference but it's not a pronounced or substantial one, mostly when striking a key off-center.

It crossed my mind for a brief second for put some stock Cherry MX clear springs into the Zealios since I'm a huge fan of their force curve but decided to ride out 67g for now. Anyone tried Cherry clear springs inside some Zealio's yet?

[Rayoui]

Has anyone looked into why some people are getting switches that actuate above the bump? I thought it was a problem with people who were modding these switches, but I discovered that I have one such switch in my =/+ key. I can barely brush the key and it will actuate. Unfortunately it's in my b.87 so I can't open the switch top to see what's wrong; I'll probably have to desolder the thing to fix it. Is it an issue with the switch leaf? Bent out of shape or something?

I had this issue with a large number of switches. I'm glad it's not just me. I ended up having to desolder and replace some of them several times because many of the new ones I would try were faulty as well. After finally getting 61 working switches in my keyboard, I now have a bin with 32 switches that actuate above the bump.

[KaminKevCrew]

Has anyone looked into why some people are getting switches that actuate above the bump? I thought it was a problem with people who were modding these switches, but I discovered that I have one such switch in my =/+ key. I can barely brush the key and it will actuate. Unfortunately it's in my b.87 so I can't open the switch top to see what's wrong; I'll probably have to desolder the thing to fix it. Is it an issue with the switch leaf? Bent out of shape or something?

I had this issue with a large number of switches. I'm glad it's not just me. I ended up having to desolder and replace some of them several times because many of the new ones I would try were faulty as well. After finally getting 61 working switches in my keyboard, I now have a bin with 32 switches that actuate above the bump.

Wow! I bought 65 (sorry zeal) and every one of mine was in great condition.

[Nufrifin]

Rayoui, if you have the time, could you please open one of those switches and see if the slider looks like it should?

[Rayoui]

Rayoui, if you have the time, could you please open one of those switches and see if the slider looks like it should?

I opened a few of them after removing them but didn't notice anything obviously deformed about the stem or leaf.

I just tested a few with a multimeter and can confirm that they do indeed actuate above the bump.

[ideus]

Got my order!

They feel very nice, but it seems that QC has to be done by whoever makes the keyboard, one out of a 100 had a weird issue, switch was permanently closed.
If you were to push the slider in a little, it would open, and then close again quickly.
I opened it up and found this (healthy slider in the back for comparison)

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So, I would recommend to order slightly more than required and test every switch before using them.

God tip, thank you very much. I will try all of them before to solder them. It is a shame QC is not hat good lastly with some of the recent GBs, including some GMK's.

[KnivesM]

I don't know if this has been addressed, but has Zeal said if he has any plans on selling the springs separately?

[renzpwns]

Finally got around to lubing my Zealios, went with GHer's thick lube and left in the 67g spring. It feels eerily similar to 45g Topre. This Phantom is now definitely my favorite MX board, it amazes me how obscenely smooth lubed Zealios are. I would say normal zealios are about 85% as smooth as reasonably possible, properly lubed they go to like 95%. There's definitely a noticable difference but it's not a pronounced or substantial one, mostly when striking a key off-center.

Hey, just wanted to ask a few questions about lubing the Zealios. I got the thick lube with my order and I'm wondering which parts of the switch did you lube? Like the stems, sliders and springs and all that. I've been experimenting with some of the switches but I just want to know what others think on it.

[Zorox]

Finally got around to lubing my Zealios, went with GHer's thick lube and left in the 67g spring. It feels eerily similar to 45g Topre. This Phantom is now definitely my favorite MX board, it amazes me how obscenely smooth lubed Zealios are. I would say normal zealios are about 85% as smooth as reasonably possible, properly lubed they go to like 95%. There's definitely a noticable difference but it's not a pronounced or substantial one, mostly when striking a key off-center.

It crossed my mind for a brief second for put some stock Cherry MX clear springs into the Zealios since I'm a huge fan of their force curve but decided to ride out 67g for now. Anyone tried Cherry clear springs inside some Zealio's yet?

I can pretty assume that the feeling when you replace Cherry clear springs into Zealios would be almost the same as normal Cherry clear. The springs are the reason people chose Zealios imho

[ripwallet]

Cannot wait to start my zelios build i've heard nothing but great things about them.

[strict]

Hey, just wanted to ask a few questions about lubing the Zealios. I got the thick lube with my order and I'm wondering which parts of the switch did you lube? Like the stems, sliders and springs and all that. I've been experimenting with some of the switches but I just want to know what others think on it.

I used an old cell phone screen as a sort of palette for lube and applied it to the center post, the legs, and the side rails. I applied on the lighter side of what I would consider a medium volume of lubricant, with the majority being applied to the side rails and legs and basically whatever was left on the brush was then applied to the center post. I tried lubing springs on a couple test switches but it doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference on Zealios so I skipped it.

[strict]

So I brought my Phantom with Zealios in to work to use today and I'm having some serious issues with it. At least 8 of the 86 switches activate early (before the tactile bump) and are causing keys presses to double-register non-stop. Has anyone figured out a fix for this? Swap out to a different stem? Replace the switch?

I have to admit, I'm less than impressed by the shear number of my switches having this issue. If it were only 1 or even 2 I wouldn't have even said anything, but when you're getting close to a 10% failure rate that is a sincere problem.