Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 31 October 2018, 14:08:57
If you have any questions just reply below i will do my best to answer you.
As i previously said in the IC thread, the initial prices are beefy but they are also justified due to the new molds (1.25u R5) and very generous coverage.
My suggestion is just to join every kit you really want and at the end of the drop you can always discard or change your order if particular kits dont meet the desired pricings.
DROP PAGE (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set)
IC Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96488.0)
MOQ and Price sheet
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 31 October 2018, 16:29:12
Post by: wixxzblu on Wed, 31 October 2018, 16:42:19
Post by: Signature on Wed, 31 October 2018, 16:43:17
Set looks great! GL with GB :D
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 31 October 2018, 16:53:05
any spacebars for space cadet alphas? :mad:
Sorry the Carbon Cadet are not real alphas but are more novelty. They miss lot of keys (especially number row) to be called alphas. Also spacebars are only available in base sets and Carbon Cadet is meant to be paired with one of the base sets or the GMK Carbon R1.
Post by: xantiema on Wed, 31 October 2018, 17:03:43
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 31 October 2018, 17:46:49
Will all the salty keycaps be in the kit? I.e. the ones shown besides the 4 carbon key caps?All of them, wciwyg, he confirmed it in IC.
Post by: elfick on Thu, 01 November 2018, 02:18:53
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 01 November 2018, 02:57:20
I know kits are locked but I just wanted to point out that there doesn’t appear to be a 1u R2 \| cap. SA Carbon had this in the alphas and some GMK sets (Serika, didn’t check others) have them in 40s kits.
I can't remember why i've put that R2 |\ key into alphas but i know it was a filler for something. Anyway no basic layout (basic layout are layouts which are derived very closely from the default layout 100%) has this key. And yes the kits are locked.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 01 November 2018, 08:01:56
DROP PAGE (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set)
Post by: boyzccc on Thu, 01 November 2018, 08:23:36
Drop is online.Im in!
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Post by: umalip on Thu, 01 November 2018, 09:16:49
Post by: sympodius on Thu, 01 November 2018, 09:18:34
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 01 November 2018, 09:29:39
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 01 November 2018, 11:02:07
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 01 November 2018, 11:54:39
Man, those alpha kits are expeeeensive before price drops. Was planning on bone base and alphas but I think I might sit this round out.
Do not hesitate and just join for the kits you need. Closer to the end of drop you can always discard or change your order if the price is still not right for you.
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 01 November 2018, 13:51:29
Post by: jihadu on Thu, 01 November 2018, 17:31:26
I have ordered everything.RIP your bank account
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 01 November 2018, 17:39:52
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 01 November 2018, 18:59:59
Threads for round 1? I wanna see what those ended up looking like
Have you tried typing "GMK Carbon" into a search engine and clicking on the results?
Post by: GigaFlop on Thu, 01 November 2018, 19:35:03
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 01 November 2018, 20:53:12
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 01 November 2018, 21:10:10
Out of curiosity, what happens to the molds for the R5 1.25u keys once this drop is over? Are they available to any sets anyone runs with GMK after this, or are they somehow tied to T0mb3ry and/or Massdrop?
They would be open to anyone afterwards. Novelties are the only thing I am aware of that are locked to the designer. For example the convex 2.25 and 2.75 spacekeys will also be free for all.
Post by: YouGotRioted on Thu, 01 November 2018, 21:16:54
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 01 November 2018, 22:09:12
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 01 November 2018, 22:31:06
Whew, hopefully, we get those prices down.
Post by: Zuology on Thu, 01 November 2018, 22:54:09
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I had my heart set on combining Boneyard, Umka, and Bone Base to get full coverage across 2 TKL/75s with a monochrome Grey set and monochrome Ivory, but for the way pricing is setup I cannot justify it at all. If any of the potential pricing had been discussed in the IC, I would have advocated that Boneyard and Umka be combined into a third base set at which point just spin-off the "Carbone" colorway into its own set/GB, since it really doesn't have much to do with the original Carbon theme, and stands on its own as a classy standalone colorway (without the skull novelty).
Post by: titanium on Thu, 01 November 2018, 23:05:44
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 November 2018, 23:42:55
Sorry to be negative, but the pricing on the Umka kit is totally bumming me out, most clearly explained by this:Show Image(https://imgur.com/sU6ByUK.jpg)
I had my heart set on combining Boneyard, Umka, and Bone Base to get full coverage across 2 TKL/75s with a monochrome Grey set and monochrome Ivory, but for the way pricing is setup I cannot justify it at all. If any of the potential pricing had been discussed in the IC, I would have advocated that Boneyard and Umka be combined into a third base set at which point just spin-off the "Carbone" colorway into its own set/GB, since it really doesn't have much to do with the original Carbon theme, and stands on its own as a classy standalone colorway (without the skull novelty).
kit split tax
nothing new
it's cause they have to do more work to sort the things
i agree it's kinda bs but it makes sense once you look into the reasons behind it
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 02 November 2018, 00:43:33
Post by: KeyCap75 on Fri, 02 November 2018, 01:42:50
Post by: Kawamashi on Fri, 02 November 2018, 07:10:28
Can't wait ! :D
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 02 November 2018, 08:48:38
Post by: phinix on Fri, 02 November 2018, 08:58:27
This is actually a reason why I for example do not buy those GBs, as it's too expensive to get whole kit, just to get few caps from it...:(
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 02 November 2018, 09:27:27
I think NorDEUK kit is horrible idea. I understand MOQs etc but people wanting to get their lang kit, like UK only, need to pay a lot for whole banch of caps that they won't use...
This is actually a reason why I for example do not buy those GBs, as it's too expensive to get whole kit, just to get few caps from it...:(
I understand the frustration, but there's no feasible alternative, even for SP SA where the MOQ is just 25.
Post by: Pennywise359 on Fri, 02 November 2018, 13:26:30
Post by: WarmCat on Fri, 02 November 2018, 13:44:20
I think NorDEUK kit is horrible idea. I understand MOQs etc but people wanting to get their lang kit, like UK only, need to pay a lot for whole banch of caps that they won't use...
This is actually a reason why I for example do not buy those GBs, as it's too expensive to get whole kit, just to get few caps from it...:(
No-one would order them anyway, unless they want to pay >£80 import tax for them plus a base kit.
The caps are made in Germany, just have a European proxy?!
Post by: nasp on Fri, 02 November 2018, 14:16:42
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 02 November 2018, 15:31:49
Instead of salt novelties for the next GB, you might need to make a money bag one! :))
Sorry was not meant to rob people. As i said above i think its just to many expensive choices at the same time is an overkill.
Btw burning money bag would probably match/describe our hobby. I'll look into such novelty but i do not promise.
Are deskpads coming any time soon?
Afaik they are currently in production and should be delivered somewhere in February.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 02 November 2018, 16:40:32
Pricing and MOQ spreadsheet has been updated and it look week for a drop with so many kits. IMO to many choices and high pricing are the reason. Also there are 1952 base sets from round 1 floating around. Probably it would do greater if split in several drops. Say Carbon, Bone and probably Umka. Anyway here we are and the drop will be held till the end. Some kits will make and probably some not. Depends on how far one kit is away from meeting its moq MD might make that kit happen, like it was done in previous drops.Instead of salt novelties for the next GB, you might need to make a money bag one! :))
Sorry was not meant to rob people. As i said above i think its just to many expensive choices at the same time is an overkill.
Btw burning money bag would probably match/describe our hobby. I'll look into such novelty but i do not promise.Are deskpads coming any time soon?
Afaik they are currently in production and should be delivered somewhere in February.
i thought numbers were looking good but i guess youd expect a lot out out of a power house set like this.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 02 November 2018, 16:54:54
Pricing and MOQ spreadsheet has been updated and it look week for a drop with so many kits. IMO to many choices and high pricing are the reason. Also there are 1952 base sets from round 1 floating around. Probably it would do greater if split in several drops. Say Carbon, Bone and probably Umka. Anyway here we are and the drop will be held till the end. Some kits will make and probably some not. Depends on how far one kit is away from meeting its moq MD might make that kit happen, like it was done in previous drops.Instead of salt novelties for the next GB, you might need to make a money bag one! :))
Sorry was not meant to rob people. As i said above i think its just to many expensive choices at the same time is an overkill.
Btw burning money bag would probably match/describe our hobby. I'll look into such novelty but i do not promise.Are deskpads coming any time soon?
Afaik they are currently in production and should be delivered somewhere in February.
i thought numbers were looking good but i guess youd expect a lot out out of a power house set like this.
I've expected that people would choose for example one base kit + one child kit. For example "Carbon + warning signs" or "Bone + rolling bones" or maybe xy base set and maybe x and y child kit. Ofc there are combos where you need more money. But that happens is that many want like almost every kit or particular amount of kits in order to reach specific style like umka with carbon cadet which ofc will cost 400+ because kits are stretched across two base sets. As i said there are some expensive offers and thats why i chose to offer Umka mods at 50 MOQ. I knew that combo would be expensive just by the fact its an stand alone modifiers set which are always expensive. And those kits cost that they cost. So its a lesson for me (and hopefully for others to) to offer in my future GMK drops just one base set and few child kits but optimized ones which are also cheaper.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 03 November 2018, 00:18:56
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 03 November 2018, 02:04:16
i can understand that i still bought the umka and baazarre alphas idc if they hit lower points or not but i think you structured kits well and for what you pay you get some great stuff however if prices go down even better i think it'll hit some good price drops seems like its very desired.
Don't get me wrong i don't blame anyone but me for the current state. I predicted the pricing in most cases correctly because i have little bit experience with development of keysets but i treated GMK GB almost like an SP GB by offering too much at the same time. Well and ofc i underestimated how the kits will be bought.
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Post by: fer.real on Sat, 03 November 2018, 07:57:48
Unfortunately, I don't think many people understand how more kits and new tooling contributes to the price of a drop. This is evident by the number of "why do I have to buy more keys than I need" comments.
Anyway, I think you did a great job on this one and I'm all the way in.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 03 November 2018, 10:16:55
For me, this is the most exciting group by in months. That is entirely due to the number of choices and the added rows to the profile. Because of that, I expected to pay more.
Unfortunately, I don't think many people understand how more kits and new tooling contributes to the price of a drop. This is evident by the number of "why do I have to buy more keys than I need" comments.
Anyway, I think you did a great job on this one and I'm all the way in.
this is very true, im with you im all the way in and i hope others do the same and this set should do very well.
Post by: nasp on Sat, 03 November 2018, 11:15:25
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Post by: onefivenine on Sun, 04 November 2018, 00:25:13
Don't get me wrong i don't blame anyone but me for the current state. I predicted the pricing in most cases correctly because i have little bit experience with development of keysets but i treated GMK GB almost like an SP GB by offering too much at the same time. Well and ofc i underestimated how the kits will be bought.
It’s still early bro. This drop wasn’t unexpected but I wasn’t ready to make a decision a sets yet. I’ll be hopping in a week or so.
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 05 November 2018, 09:52:59
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Mon, 05 November 2018, 11:38:47
Fulfilled my obligations, pulled the trigger on Umka, Beezarre and Cadet kits. If I have some cash left by the end of the drop, I will go for few more. Thanks again T0mb3ry for setting up this drop and accommodating so many different requests from members.
You realize your selection doesn’t include the cream colored number row or spacebar right?
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 05 November 2018, 13:59:15
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Fulfilled my obligations, pulled the trigger on Umka, Beezarre and Cadet kits. If I have some cash left by the end of the drop, I will go for few more. Thanks again T0mb3ry for setting up this drop and accommodating so many different requests from members.I guess you have already GMK Carbon round 1 base which you can combine with the cadet kit otherwise you need one of the base sets.
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:07:50
They might just be going for orange number row and spacebar. Though I could be wrong.Fulfilled my obligations, pulled the trigger on Umka, Beezarre and Cadet kits. If I have some cash left by the end of the drop, I will go for few more. Thanks again T0mb3ry for setting up this drop and accommodating so many different requests from members.I guess you have already GMK Carbon round 1 base which you can combine with the cadet kit otherwise you need one of the base sets.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:17:12
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:26:10
Fulfilled my obligations, pulled the trigger on Umka, Beezarre and Cadet kits. If I have some cash left by the end of the drop, I will go for few more. Thanks again T0mb3ry for setting up this drop and accommodating so many different requests from members.
You realize your selection doesn’t include the cream colored number row or spacebar right?
Got that covered in Carbon R1.
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:47:06
I am also quite wondering. There are almost 2k base sets from round 1 in the wild and i thought Carbon Cadet would be popular because it can be combined with round 1 base set. I guess offering Carbon Cadet was bad idea.
I doubt CC kit made any impact on others sale. Those who didnt participate in R1, would definitely need base + other kits, for those whom already participated in R1, would be interested in R0/5 update + other kits. CC was more of a surprise cherry on top.My heart was only on Beezarre and went for CC as I couldnt resist post Space Cadet. I was planning on base set for R0/5 but went for Umka; it was too delicious to pass up after viewing the rendering from Oblotzky. Honestly, I may add more to my order once my cashflow is more clearer by the mid of this month. It could be just timing, folks getting their paychecks later in the month, rent and other expenses due in first week of Nov etc etc.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:54:09
I doubt CC kit made any impact on others sale. Those who didnt participate in R1, would definitely need base + other kits, for those whom already participated in R1, would be interested in R0/5 update + other kits. CC was more of a surprise cherry on top.My heart was only on Beezarre and went for CC as I couldnt resist post Space Cadet. I was planning on base set for R0/5 but went for Umka; it was too delicious to pass up after viewing the rendering from Oblotzky. Honestly, I may add more to my order once my cashflow is more clearer by the mid of this month. It could be just timing, folks getting their paychecks later in the month, rent and other expenses due in first week of Nov etc etc.
As previously (in IC thread) i've noted, the upgrade kit was removed because it was only 30$ cheaper than the base kit. Say its price was 130$ which makes no sense. :/
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 05 November 2018, 15:02:05
I doubt CC kit made any impact on others sale. Those who didnt participate in R1, would definitely need base + other kits, for those whom already participated in R1, would be interested in R0/5 update + other kits. CC was more of a surprise cherry on top.My heart was only on Beezarre and went for CC as I couldnt resist post Space Cadet. I was planning on base set for R0/5 but went for Umka; it was too delicious to pass up after viewing the rendering from Oblotzky. Honestly, I may add more to my order once my cashflow is more clearer by the mid of this month. It could be just timing, folks getting their paychecks later in the month, rent and other expenses due in first week of Nov etc etc.
As previously (in IC thread) i've noted, the upgrade kit was removed because it was only 30$ cheaper than the base kit. Say its price was 130$ which makes no sense. :/
Certainly, I am aware and not complaining, just giving my 0.02$ on the sales figures.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 05 November 2018, 15:11:01
Certainly, I am aware and not complaining, just giving my 0.02$ on the sales figures.
Was not accusing or something (pardon if it reads like i was accusing you of complaining) ^-^. I shared only the information about the reason why it has been removed. I was previously asked in other chats about it so i thought it would be informative to do it here again.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Mon, 05 November 2018, 16:46:24
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 05 November 2018, 17:15:03
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Post by: GigaFlop on Mon, 05 November 2018, 17:17:00
Looks like most the kits I got will hit MOQ, really hope Carbon Cadet hits MOQ though. USBUS
Carbon Cadet is one of the main reasons I'm joining, so sexy. They can help me design better function layers if I pick keys that have memorable symbols on them.
Post by: silversung on Mon, 05 November 2018, 17:36:07
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 05 November 2018, 20:36:17
Certainly, I am aware and not complaining, just giving my 0.02$ on the sales figures.
Was not accusing or something (pardon if it reads like i was accusing you of complaining) ^-^. I shared only the information about the reason why it has been removed. I was previously asked in other chats about it so i thought it would be informative to do it here again.
:-[ no issues, both being polite to each other trying to avoid causing any offense, not that there is anything wrong with it. :cool:
Post by: Wetherbee on Mon, 05 November 2018, 21:15:02
I'm in for all sets. Its rare to see designers actually innovating and this is a set worth investing in.
Post by: thelaughingman on Tue, 06 November 2018, 02:02:51
Carbon cadet really made it tough for me as I wanted to just splurge and buy all the kits needed to cover a TKL. But then I joined the push for Susuwatari last week (that $100 @1000MQ was SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!) and that was that :)
I think you said it best yourself T0mb3ry, treating GMK buy like an SP buy was not the way and flooding the drop with kits did not help (classic case of Paradox of Choice). And of course new GMK pricing + R0/R5 cost don't help either.
Post by: fer.real on Tue, 06 November 2018, 03:06:53
I'm in for all sets. Its rare to see designers actually innovating and this is a set worth investing in.
I could not agree more.
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 06 November 2018, 14:42:49
Post by: fer.real on Tue, 06 November 2018, 14:50:33
Someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Ivory mods + Carbon cadet still did not cut it to cover a TKL? Like you'd still need a spacebar from the base kit right?
Correct. You would also need the numbers row and the punctuation keys from a base kit.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 06 November 2018, 15:23:08
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/YBf9h4GSTg6jz4qqYeBO_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-6%20-%20post.jpg)
Someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Ivory mods + Carbon cadet still did not cut it to cover a TKL? Like you'd still need a spacebar from the base kit right?
Exactly. Carbon Cadet is not full alpha replacement (like boneyard or beezarre alphas). For full alphas its missing number row, punctuation keys, numpad and spacebars.
Carbon Cadet was not planned as full alphas replacement. It was thought to be used also with GMK Carbon R1 base set. So it includes only necessary Cadet alpha keys. Carbon Cadet is more a novelty.
Post by: bdkrzy on Tue, 06 November 2018, 17:22:45
Exactly. Carbon Cadet is not full alpha replacement (like boneyard or beezarre alphas). For full alphas its missing number row, punctuation keys, numpad and spacebars.
Carbon Cadet was not planned as full alphas replacement. It was thought to be used also with GMK Carbon R1 base set. So it includes only necessary Cadet alpha keys. Carbon Cadet is more a novelty.
Thanks for the info. Damn. Just some quick math it seems like my planned carbon cadet set would run over $300. Rough life GG. Will see if I could gather the funds by the end of the drop to join! I just wish some of the options could be more flexible, but I guess we all got different choices so it will never be an easy task to please everyone.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 06 November 2018, 19:24:59
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 07 November 2018, 01:47:17
At this pace it's looking like a bunch of them won't even hit MOQ which is definitely a bummer.
Don't worry. Depending on how far a kit is away from hitting its MOQ Massdrop might step in and make the kit happen anyway. That happened already in previous drops. Also you will be able to adjust your order or discard it if your desired kit don't make it.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:15:38
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:37:57
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/FHUiOIeLRiKM1CYlEQAi_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-7%20-%20post.jpg)
Ah, that does make me feel better, thanks!
;)
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 08 November 2018, 16:19:46
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/BG7qXK6TBGVOGYz74vpf_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-8%20-%20post.jpg)
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 08 November 2018, 16:41:24
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 08 November 2018, 21:16:30
come on umka and beezarre :p+1
Post by: nasp on Thu, 08 November 2018, 21:34:10
come on umka and beezarre :p+1
dare I say, +2?!?
I'm going ergo, beezarre, and space kits
Post by: fireworm on Fri, 09 November 2018, 09:44:18
E.g., basic stuff first, neat stuff right after it ships.
I do feel the same as others with too much choice, and (paradoxically) not enough choice (Boneyard Cadet!).
Post by: mimalik on Fri, 09 November 2018, 11:05:25
come on umka and beezarre :p+1
dare I say, +2?!?
I'm going ergo, beezarre, and space kits
I am truly surprised at #s for Beezarre, I thought I would hit 500 MOQ within a week. Its orange, how can anyone not love it? They weren't offered in R1 and GMK orange alphas are as unicorn as they come. Hopefully we atleast hit 100 or near it so that kit is not dropped.
Post by: KaosJ on Fri, 09 November 2018, 11:28:29
come on umka and beezarre :p+1
dare I say, +2?!?
I'm going ergo, beezarre, and space kits
I am truly surprised at #s for Beezarre, I thought I would hit 500 MOQ within a week. Its orange, how can anyone not love it? They weren't offered in R1 and GMK orange alphas are as unicorn as they come. Hopefully we atleast hit 100 or near it so that kit is not dropped.
Same, i was surprised that is not going as well as i thought it would be.
Tomb3rino please re-add the Carbon mousepad option <3
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 09 November 2018, 16:40:18
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Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 11 November 2018, 15:03:34
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 11 November 2018, 23:59:18
Can you please make the GMK Carbon banner T0mb3ry? So we can link it in our profile
Yes i will do some for you once i get home.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 12 November 2018, 14:33:58
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/eg7PtCVSMSXDsEzpLyEW_community%20(3).jpg)
Can you please make the GMK Carbon banner T0mb3ry? So we can link it in our profile
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[url=https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open][img width=480 height=120 align=center ]https://i.imgur.com/TSRntUy.png[/img][/url]^-^
edit: if used as banner its displayed non centered... i need to find out how to fix that. (fixed)
Post by: KaosJ on Mon, 12 November 2018, 14:51:54
Can you please make the GMK Carbon banner T0mb3ry? So we can link it in our profileShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSRntUy.png)Code: [Select][url=https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open][img width=480 height=120 align=center ]https://i.imgur.com/TSRntUy.png[/img][/url]
^-^
got you fam!
Now just need the Carbon giant mousepad and we are complete Tomb3ry
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 13 November 2018, 10:25:37
Just a thought for the under performing kits; if possible, can the MOQ be changed to 50? It may lead to a little price increase. At this point I am sure those who have participated in some of these kits want to buy them and I personally wont mind paying a slight extra to get it done.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 13 November 2018, 10:52:30
@T0mb3ry,
Just a thought for the under performing kits; if possible, can the MOQ be changed to 50? It may lead to a little price increase. At this point I am sure those who have participated in some of these kits want to buy them and I personally wont mind paying a slight extra to get it done.
Changing the kits/MOQ during the drop is not possible (or at least not as easy to make). There was an exception in SP SA Carbon R2 with warning signs, which have already succeeded - so warning signs kit could be just locked as completed. We should wait until the end and see how it goes.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:06:21
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Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:50:45
Keep it up everybody.
Post by: Cktenders on Tue, 13 November 2018, 19:51:38
Post by: thelaughingman on Wed, 14 November 2018, 04:02:15
This drop being sandwiched between 2 MT3 drops may have some effect - Susuwatari had great price and people, including me, went for it which limit spending now; and Godspeed teasee draws away some interest for sure.
Here's to hoping numbers will pick up a bit somehow!
Post by: Kawamashi on Wed, 14 November 2018, 04:16:16
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 14 November 2018, 11:41:55
I joined for Umka mods and Carbon Cadet but both needs to reach 250MOQ for the $$$ to make sense for me. If only 150MOQ is reached, I will have to pick 1 and drop 1 :(
This drop being sandwiched between 2 MT3 drops may have some effect - Susuwatari had great price and people, including me, went for it which limit spending now; and Godspeed teasee draws away some interest for sure.
Here's to hoping numbers will pick up a bit somehow!
I highly recommend everyone to go for this drop, as I have a feeling there may not be a R3 or may be it will happen but prob after 3-5 yr wait.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:25:25
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Post by: Cas on Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:43:47
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:53:31
Even if it there isnt round 3 i wont enter at this cost, love Carbon but it is too much, i will wait if someday there is a round 3
Inflation tells me the prices aren't going to get any lower with future drops.
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:53:56
Even if it there isnt round 3 i wont enter at this cost, love Carbon but it is too much
I felt the same way, I really really wanted carbon bad. Then I seen the price and sticker shock was just to much. I honestly think if numbers would have been posted during the IC. Then R0 and R5 would have gotten voted down pretty rapidly. I am assuming that's what is adding the bulk of the cost to this set. As others said it kinda makes it impossible to upgrade older carbon sets with R0 and R5 which could have driven down price. As it stands to get a ok complete set your looking at way north of 220 dollar's which is just insane for a keycap set for most people. I seen the argument, people pay more on mechmarket. Which is true but isn't. The average person buying on mech market has disposable income. There also looking for something unique. I think its why we don't see flippers because once there 4-5 of a given set on mech market prices drop like a rock.
Post by: newbatthis on Wed, 14 November 2018, 13:29:09
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 14 November 2018, 13:37:12
GMK DMG - 169
GMK Terminal- 189 post production but GB price was 159
GMK Taro - 155
GMK Metaverse - 160
GMK Chocolatier - 149
GMK Space Cadet - 149
GMK TA - 169
Why all the complains on pricing? A typical base set is running b/w 150-180, depending on drop. The extras are reasonably priced as well. Even if you participated in R1 like I did, there are plenty of other kits to go for extras which werent offered in R1. I understand if one doesnt like the color scheme or R0/5 profile, but all this noise about pricing is over kill. Also, prices are set by GMK and upward pricing is the trend, if you think in future it will be cheaper, then best of luck.
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 14 November 2018, 14:38:28
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 14 November 2018, 16:39:35
Post by: Cas on Thu, 15 November 2018, 01:45:51
Post by: darthzero on Thu, 15 November 2018, 06:06:23
too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that.Maybe, just maybe people don’t care about frackin r0/5 (yeah except you, tomb3ry and the 150 who voted for it). There is no benefit for “us” just the fear that more sets will incorporate those rows.
@mimalik: prices are set from gmk? Haha funneh joke mate 7/10 would laugh again. The vendors in cooperation with the set designer set the price. Including earnings for both parties (not so sure with md ^^). But except the people and vendors who ran a set (+GMK of course) nobody knows the pricing structure of GMK. Would be way to easy for creators to have this info publicly available including all the available molds (shots fired in direction of GMK^^)...
Also nice thing you only listed the sets that were high priced, what about white on black for 100$ or serika for 139$ just off the top of my head. Yes prices increased from GMK but not 40-50$ per set.
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 15 November 2018, 09:24:56
too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that.Maybe, just maybe people don’t care about frackin r0/5 (yeah except you, tomb3ry and the 150 who voted for it). There is no benefit for “us” just the fear that more sets will incorporate those rows.
@mimalik: prices are set from gmk? Haha funneh joke mate 7/10 would laugh again. The vendors in cooperation with the set designer set the price. Including earnings for both parties (not so sure with md ^^). But except the people and vendors who ran a set (+GMK of course) nobody knows the pricing structure of GMK. Would be way to easy for creators to have this info publicly available including all the available molds (shots fired in direction of GMK^^)...
Also nice thing you only listed the sets that were high priced, what about white on black for 100$ or serika for 139$ just off the top of my head. Yes prices increased from GMK but not 40-50$ per set.
This is a KB community effort, folks voted for R0/5 and wanted it, hence its there. This is a niche hobby which can be expansive, while I dont know the GMK pricing structure, WoB seems to be a one off now days. Prices always increase into the future thx to global monetary policies. And you are right folks may be making money in b/w as this is not a non-profit endeavor, but GMK is the one which sets the bottom line and everyone else just add on their %s. We all have invested comparatively ridiculous sums on keyboards and complaining about 15-20 $ difference on a drop from set from past is ridiculous. I just picked up pricing from currently running or near ended GMK drops. Please do list any other $100 gmk drops from 2018.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 15 November 2018, 12:22:12
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Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 15 November 2018, 17:17:00
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 15 November 2018, 17:28:12
Post by: Cas on Thu, 15 November 2018, 19:05:26
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 16 November 2018, 08:06:50
too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that.Maybe, just maybe people don’t care about frackin r0/5 (yeah except you, tomb3ry and the 150 who voted for it). There is no benefit for “us” just the fear that more sets will incorporate those rows.
@mimalik: prices are set from gmk? Haha funneh joke mate 7/10 would laugh again. The vendors in cooperation with the set designer set the price. Including earnings for both parties (not so sure with md ^^). But except the people and vendors who ran a set (+GMK of course) nobody knows the pricing structure of GMK. Would be way to easy for creators to have this info publicly available including all the available molds (shots fired in direction of GMK^^)...
Also nice thing you only listed the sets that were high priced, what about white on black for 100$ or serika for 139$ just off the top of my head. Yes prices increased from GMK but not 40-50$ per set.
GMK sets the base price, which is then increased based on the designer and runner getting something for their efforts. Just like everything else. I don't think that anyone can fault them for that, and most understand that the GMK prices influence the final price. No comment on the prices of the other sets around now, however... he gave a pretty compelling list...
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 16 November 2018, 13:29:05
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Post by: mathiasn on Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:10:09
Daily update.
Weird numbers - when compared to the Massdrop statement "2.575 Sold" (top of the page near "11 DAYS LEFT").
When I sum that table up, I get something around 1.200 orders.
(And not even the main kit took the first hurdle (250).)
OK, I need the R0+R5 - but luckily I've stowed away a NORDEUK from round 1.5 :D
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:38:20
Daily update.
Weird numbers - when compared to the Massdrop statement "2.575 Sold" (top of the page near "11 DAYS LEFT").
When I sum that table up, I get something around 1.200 orders.
(And not even the main kit took the first hurdle (250).)
OK, I need the R0+R5 - but luckily I've stowed away a NORDEUK from round 1.5 :D
Massdrop is dumb they combine R1 with R2 sales.
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 19 November 2018, 03:40:57
Post by: qq on Mon, 19 November 2018, 04:03:21
Hopefully, as there will be a few days left, the keyset would pick up when people are pushed to make up their mind. It will be very sad to see a nice kit such as Bone Base would fail miserably.
Post by: sagadoi on Mon, 19 November 2018, 06:53:15
Cause I really like carbon, that is my belief rather than toy
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 19 November 2018, 13:10:29
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Post by: upas on Mon, 19 November 2018, 13:16:53
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 19 November 2018, 13:50:41
I really want that space kit to hit MOQ. If it doesn't, I don't think I'd really want the rest :(Please wait until the drop ends and don't worry. There will be some additional orders at the end as usual. After that we will get to know about which kits will be made and afaik you will be able to adjust or cancel your order. I hope everything will be fine ;)
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 19 November 2018, 13:55:45
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 19 November 2018, 13:58:56
Dang, both umka and bieezarre lost a few, cmon folks these are unicorns. Buy one for the team. Does anyone know if not at MOQ, how near the MOQ point a kit must be in order to be made? 40%, 50%, 80%? I have been waiting for the orange alphas since R1, and now that its up for grab.....
Take my words with grain of salt.
Umka is just 10 kits away from hitting its moq. I do think it will be made anyway. By only 50 existing kits that will be real snowflake made of unicorn tears :))
Post by: 112227 on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:46:32
I really want the boneyard alphas and umka mods. If those don't reach MOQ I'd want bone base set. If that doesn't reach MOQ, I guess I'd take the regular base set.
How do I order what I want without missing an opportunity to buy my second or third choice? :S
Post by: Wetherbee on Tue, 20 November 2018, 02:11:35
You are very likely to end up with a very rare keyset. When people look for Carbon sets on the aftermarket, these are going to be the rare coveted ones they wish they had paid groupbuy prices for. As a vintage profile user, R0-R5 are really something special. People don't seem to understand that - yet.
Post by: phinix on Tue, 20 November 2018, 09:43:08
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 20 November 2018, 09:53:35
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:04:12
Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!
Base Kit covers HHKB fully.
Post by: Anakey on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:07:38
Just checking - this is Massdrop, so even if this is produced in Germany, if I order it in Europe, I will still need to pay tax + customs, as this will go to US first, then send back here? No EU proxy to avoid extra costs?
Correct as they would sell the sets to Massdrop with no VAT
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:24:11
Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!
Base Kit covers HHKB fully.
Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:27:27
Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!
Base Kit covers HHKB fully.
Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).
Go to your transactions, there should be an option to edit your current order. Select the Bone Kit as the main purchase and Salty as an option to that
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:33:44
Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!
Base Kit covers HHKB fully.
Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).
Go to your transactions, there should be an option to edit your current order. Select the Bone Kit as the main purchase and Salty as an option to that
Thanks, I appreciate the help - I was looking under my drops and hadn't seen any edit function. Bones ordered!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:52:37
Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!
Base Kit covers HHKB fully.
Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).
Go to your transactions, there should be an option to edit your current order. Select the Bone Kit as the main purchase and Salty as an option to that
Thanks, I appreciate the help - I was looking under my drops and hadn't seen any edit function. Bones ordered!
Very important. If you pay with Paypal you better delete your previous order and make an new one. Otherwise your order might be canceled at the end of the drop. This is a very well known Paypal "feature".
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 20 November 2018, 12:31:03
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Post by: mimalik on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:54:02
Plz buy some more and get it over or near the line :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: silversung on Tue, 20 November 2018, 19:19:52
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 20 November 2018, 19:26:31
Can anyone tell me how MD ships their drops? I'm trying to break my drop into two packages, each under $200 to avoid unnecessary tax. Can I do that with my 1 account? Say if I bought Base Kit like tomorrow, and Umka Mods next week. Would MD ship them together in one bundle? Or would they ship them separately?
They just need to be separate orders with shipping paid on each.
Post by: silversung on Tue, 20 November 2018, 22:38:26
Can anyone tell me how MD ships their drops? I'm trying to break my drop into two packages, each under $200 to avoid unnecessary tax. Can I do that with my 1 account? Say if I bought Base Kit like tomorrow, and Umka Mods next week. Would MD ship them together in one bundle? Or would they ship them separately?
They just need to be separate orders with shipping paid on each.
Ok, got it. Thanks a lot!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 November 2018, 13:02:16
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Post by: mimalik on Wed, 21 November 2018, 13:41:39
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/WbgUaxQBTv6njOCwGKGl_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-21%20-%20post.jpg)
I think we are at point where it will be prudent to see if lowering MOQ with slight increase in price can be an option. My concern is for Beezarre and Cadet, hopefully other participants will be ok with it. I'd rather pay a bit more than not get kit at all.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 November 2018, 14:08:49
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/WbgUaxQBTv6njOCwGKGl_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-21%20-%20post.jpg)
I think we are at point where it will be prudent to see if lowering MOQ with slight increase in price can be an option. My concern is for Beezarre and Cadet, hopefully other participants will be ok with it. I'd rather pay a bit more than not get kit at all.
I am sorry but such actions are not possible because there are people who are already IN with their money. The drop goes till the end as it is. At the end everyone will be able to adjust their order or cancel it (in case the wanted kit constellation does not met its MOQ).
Good thing is, there will be GMK Carbon with full cherry profile. ^-^ This is success for me already. Of course i want every kit to happen but we will see how it plays out in the end.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 21 November 2018, 15:42:34
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 21 November 2018, 16:12:16
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 21 November 2018, 17:43:32
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 21 November 2018, 17:53:44
I'm building a 60% so really hope Warning Signs number row gets made. Also hopes Cadet makes it as well. First GB I've ever joined and this is stressful lol
Post by: thelaughingman on Wed, 21 November 2018, 18:09:42
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/WbgUaxQBTv6njOCwGKGl_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-21%20-%20post.jpg)
Umka continues to go backward :(
Post by: Wetherbee on Wed, 21 November 2018, 18:32:59
Just order it and hope for a Thanksgiving miracle.
Carbon without warning signs is like a sundae without the cherry. 🍒
I'm personally praying for like 7-8 kits that are not even halfway there.
Post by: thelaughingman on Wed, 21 November 2018, 19:19:54
Just order it and hope for a Thanksgiving miracle.
Carbon without warning signs is like a sundae without the cherry. 🍒
I'm personally praying for like 7-8 kits that are not even halfway there.
I already joined on the 1st day, duh! But this is trending towards cancelling on the last day now
Post by: 8six753o9 on Wed, 21 November 2018, 19:52:50
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Post by: TheAutoManCan on Wed, 21 November 2018, 20:43:14
Why are people cancelling before the end date? If a kit doesn’t make MOQ, you aren’t going to get charged and will be cancel anyways. Cancelling early is going to make people not want to join. We want to encourage people to join late to maybe hit MOQ.Some people join early thinking that the kits will hit price drops over time. With the current sales rate, I imagine the people dropping out have determined that even if their desired kits hit MoQ they aren't willing to pay the price. That, or they are dropping lesser desired kits to reduce the overall cost of their individual purchase.
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Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 22 November 2018, 02:26:05
Example is Carbon.. there was a number of base kits.. plus modifier kits etc etc. I think that's one of the biggest down falls. I know the community wants verity but at the end of the day. I think one single base kit plus addon kits is much better then running like 2 base kits.. 3 modifier kits etc etc. Cause it dilutes the discounts and ends up with people spreading out to much.
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 22 November 2018, 16:47:33
Personally i dropped because I was willing to pay 139.99 for the base. 159.99 price tag is way to high. I know its 20 bucks but that not the point. I am also not sold on the row 5. I mean it shouldn't have any affect one way or another other then driving up price. I do wonder if this sets even going to get produced. I noticed it just hit MOQ which is pretty sad. I don't know if many of the addon sets will hit MOQ and if they don't I doubt the base will even meet MOQ as people will most likely cancel. I do want to say glad the designer tried something new. I hope maybe this will help the community grow as a whole. I look back at older sets there was typically 1-2 options and some base kits. Now it seems like designers want to run 3-4 buys at the same time.
Example is Carbon.. there was a number of base kits.. plus modifier kits etc etc. I think that's one of the biggest down falls. I know the community wants verity but at the end of the day. I think one single base kit plus addon kits is much better then running like 2 base kits.. 3 modifier kits etc etc. Cause it dilutes the discounts and ends up with people spreading out to much.
I agree. For example i believe the base set MUST be unique, not 2, that would make the price lower for more people and many more people happy to join.
Also the extra mods to make it all "cream" it's kinda pointless to be honest.
Still joined tho.
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 22 November 2018, 23:24:31
Personally i dropped because I was willing to pay 139.99 for the base. 159.99 price tag is way to high. I know its 20 bucks but that not the point. I am also not sold on the row 5. I mean it shouldn't have any affect one way or another other then driving up price. I do wonder if this sets even going to get produced. I noticed it just hit MOQ which is pretty sad. I don't know if many of the addon sets will hit MOQ and if they don't I doubt the base will even meet MOQ as people will most likely cancel. I do want to say glad the designer tried something new. I hope maybe this will help the community grow as a whole. I look back at older sets there was typically 1-2 options and some base kits. Now it seems like designers want to run 3-4 buys at the same time.
Example is Carbon.. there was a number of base kits.. plus modifier kits etc etc. I think that's one of the biggest down falls. I know the community wants verity but at the end of the day. I think one single base kit plus addon kits is much better then running like 2 base kits.. 3 modifier kits etc etc. Cause it dilutes the discounts and ends up with people spreading out to much.
That complaint about the price has been brought up a few times, and I just don't get it. It seems that most GMK sets these days are the same price for pretty much the same coverage that I've seen recently. It seems to be the going price. So why is this one singled out? Is it just because of all of the other sets in it and the fact that people want those too?
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 23 November 2018, 00:21:14
I think that since there are more kits people want to get more kits to get their ‘ideal’ kit. So the effective price for their ideal kit also goes up. Most people are complaining about the price but I think the real culprit is the amount of kits. Not only do people get discouraged because their appetite exceeds their wallet but the money gets spread out because there are so many kits and they end up competing with each other. I really think this is struggling because of option overload.Personally i dropped because I was willing to pay 139.99 for the base. 159.99 price tag is way to high. I know its 20 bucks but that not the point. I am also not sold on the row 5. I mean it shouldn't have any affect one way or another other then driving up price. I do wonder if this sets even going to get produced. I noticed it just hit MOQ which is pretty sad. I don't know if many of the addon sets will hit MOQ and if they don't I doubt the base will even meet MOQ as people will most likely cancel. I do want to say glad the designer tried something new. I hope maybe this will help the community grow as a whole. I look back at older sets there was typically 1-2 options and some base kits. Now it seems like designers want to run 3-4 buys at the same time.
Example is Carbon.. there was a number of base kits.. plus modifier kits etc etc. I think that's one of the biggest down falls. I know the community wants verity but at the end of the day. I think one single base kit plus addon kits is much better then running like 2 base kits.. 3 modifier kits etc etc. Cause it dilutes the discounts and ends up with people spreading out to much.
That complaint about the price has been brought up a few times, and I just don't get it. It seems that most GMK sets these days are the same price for pretty much the same coverage that I've seen recently. It seems to be the going price. So why is this one singled out? Is it just because of all of the other sets in it and the fact that people want those too?
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 23 November 2018, 00:25:43
I think that since there are more kits people want to get more kits to get their ‘ideal’ kit. So the effective price for their ideal kit also goes up. Most people are complaining about the price but I think the real culprit is the amount of kits. Not only do people get discouraged because their appetite exceeds their wallet but the money gets spread out because their are so many kits and they end up competing with each other. I really think this is struggling because of option overload.Personally i dropped because I was willing to pay 139.99 for the base. 159.99 price tag is way to high. I know its 20 bucks but that not the point. I am also not sold on the row 5. I mean it shouldn't have any affect one way or another other then driving up price. I do wonder if this sets even going to get produced. I noticed it just hit MOQ which is pretty sad. I don't know if many of the addon sets will hit MOQ and if they don't I doubt the base will even meet MOQ as people will most likely cancel. I do want to say glad the designer tried something new. I hope maybe this will help the community grow as a whole. I look back at older sets there was typically 1-2 options and some base kits. Now it seems like designers want to run 3-4 buys at the same time.
Example is Carbon.. there was a number of base kits.. plus modifier kits etc etc. I think that's one of the biggest down falls. I know the community wants verity but at the end of the day. I think one single base kit plus addon kits is much better then running like 2 base kits.. 3 modifier kits etc etc. Cause it dilutes the discounts and ends up with people spreading out to much.
That complaint about the price has been brought up a few times, and I just don't get it. It seems that most GMK sets these days are the same price for pretty much the same coverage that I've seen recently. It seems to be the going price. So why is this one singled out? Is it just because of all of the other sets in it and the fact that people want those too?
i believe this is why as well, too much all at once,
Post by: mimalik on Sat, 24 November 2018, 09:14:31
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/WbgUaxQBTv6njOCwGKGl_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-21%20-%20post.jpg)
I think we are at point where it will be prudent to see if lowering MOQ with slight increase in price can be an option. My concern is for Beezarre and Cadet, hopefully other participants will be ok with it. I'd rather pay a bit more than not get kit at all.
I am sorry but such actions are not possible because there are people who are already IN with their money. The drop goes till the end as it is. At the end everyone will be able to adjust their order or cancel it (in case the wanted kit constellation does not met its MOQ).
Good thing is, there will be GMK Carbon with full cherry profile. ^-^ This is success for me already. Of course i want every kit to happen but we will see how it plays out in the end.
Hi T0mb3ry,
Is there any possibility that you/MD can convince GMK to produce all the kits irrespective if they reach MOQ? This set is so unique design, color scheme and profile wise that all the kits deserve to be made, even if not hitting MOQ. I hope we get enough infusion from China/Asia proxies to make it up for numbers.
Post by: sagadoi on Mon, 26 November 2018, 00:08:27
I cannot agree any more. MD can make recap in the future anyway. :thumb:Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/WbgUaxQBTv6njOCwGKGl_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-21%20-%20post.jpg)
I think we are at point where it will be prudent to see if lowering MOQ with slight increase in price can be an option. My concern is for Beezarre and Cadet, hopefully other participants will be ok with it. I'd rather pay a bit more than not get kit at all.
I am sorry but such actions are not possible because there are people who are already IN with their money. The drop goes till the end as it is. At the end everyone will be able to adjust their order or cancel it (in case the wanted kit constellation does not met its MOQ).
Good thing is, there will be GMK Carbon with full cherry profile. ^-^ This is success for me already. Of course i want every kit to happen but we will see how it plays out in the end.
Hi T0mb3ry,
Is there any possibility that you/MD can convince GMK to produce all the kits irrespective if they reach MOQ? This set is so unique design, color scheme and profile wise that all the kits deserve to be made, even if not hitting MOQ. I hope we get enough infusion from China/Asia proxies to make it up for numbers.
Post by: The_judge_168 on Mon, 26 November 2018, 12:29:56
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 26 November 2018, 14:33:06
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/XspijJ2Sv7SMmswMlDKQ_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-26%20-%20post.jpg)
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 26 November 2018, 14:58:13
Massdrop made mint dolch with a low amount of orders so hopefully everything is made. 40% MOQ for Bone Base and 54% for Bonyard Alphas for my orders
Mint Dolch had few kits. I'd not count on all of them to get made.
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 26 November 2018, 19:49:39
Post by: GigaFlop on Mon, 26 November 2018, 20:41:10
Also, I'm not sure how things would work if Cadet doesn't make it. I get that it would be cancelled, but if it does get cancelled, I would want to shift to the Novelties and/or Assembly kits. Would there be a last-chance shot for something like that to happen?
Post by: silversung on Mon, 26 November 2018, 22:25:53
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Mon, 26 November 2018, 23:02:40
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 26 November 2018, 23:16:59
MOQ/Price sheet updated.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/XspijJ2Sv7SMmswMlDKQ_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-26%20-%20post.jpg)
wait... does that mean bone base has to get 250 orders to make MOQ? ****, I hope not. It's beautiful. You know, I still don't have carbon. I don't know why. It's right up my alley. I love gray and orange. But the thing that pulled me in was the bone set.
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:19:46
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 27 November 2018, 14:22:24
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/H5UFJU75TySblTXNkqOw_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-27%20-%20post.jpg)
MOQ/Price sheet updated.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/XspijJ2Sv7SMmswMlDKQ_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-26%20-%20post.jpg)
wait... does that mean bone base has to get 250 orders to make MOQ? ****, I hope not. It's beautiful. You know, I still don't have carbon. I don't know why. It's right up my alley. I love gray and orange. But the thing that pulled me in was the bone set.
As i said previously you will be able to adjust your order in case some wanted kits will not make into production. Also its more likely that Massdrop will make the Bone base regardless of it not meeting the MOQ requirements. Bone base is a full set which can be offered later in a recap sale and that makes sense to make it happen. But this is not set in stone and is only my assumption. So don't quote me on this. We should wait until the drop ends ;)
Post by: leece3 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 17:15:13
Besides the Bones color way, I am also interested in a) the R5 Control and Alt keys for old style WKL boards, as well as the R0 rows, which before I didn't know exist. But to my surprise, checking my
beloved original Cherry G80-1000 board, that one, although quite some age, doesn't have R0, just R1..
So to be honest, maybe I actually can easily live with R1 rows alone.
Anyway, rooting for the Bones basic set (haven't joined yet) and as well as the Bones dark alphas (but I am out for anything else and hoping for future R5 sets..)..
Cheers! (typing from a original Cherry WKL with R5 row..)
Post by: leece3 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 17:17:33
Must be: can easily live without R0...
PS. But R5 is definitely noice... (copy pasting with R5 Control..:)
Post by: rondg on Tue, 27 November 2018, 17:33:31
Post by: avid on Tue, 27 November 2018, 18:40:01
As i said previously you will be able to adjust your order in case some wanted kits will not make into production. Also its more likely that Massdrop will make the Bone base regardless of it not meeting the MOQ requirements. Bone base is a full set which can be offered later in a recap sale and that makes sense to make it happen. But this is not set in stone and is only my assumption. So don't quote me on this. We should wait until the drop ends ;)
Will we have any more info before drop finish?
The issue i see is this.
I want a base-kit and prefer bone. If i order bone and it doesnt get through then im stuck with no base at all. I rather have orange base than no kit at all, and i assume you wont be able to add things after drop has ended if some kits doesnt make it through.
Post by: MassdropYanbo on Wed, 28 November 2018, 12:49:30
As i said previously you will be able to adjust your order in case some wanted kits will not make into production. Also its more likely that Massdrop will make the Bone base regardless of it not meeting the MOQ requirements. Bone base is a full set which can be offered later in a recap sale and that makes sense to make it happen. But this is not set in stone and is only my assumption. So don't quote me on this. We should wait until the drop ends ;)
Will we have any more info before drop finish?
The issue i see is this.
I want a base-kit and prefer bone. If i order bone and it doesnt get through then im stuck with no base at all. I rather have orange base than no kit at all, and i assume you wont be able to add things after drop has ended if some kits doesnt make it through.
Unfortunately, a lot of the decision on which kits will be made is dependent on what the order quantities look like after the drop ends.
We will of course reach out to those that have ordered kits that will not be made due to MOQ (hopefully none!). You will have the option of cancelling the entire order, take the order as is minus the kits not been made, or make changes to what kits are been ordered.
This will be a bit of a manual process so depending on how many people are affected, it might take a little longer to get to everyone.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 28 November 2018, 13:33:50
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Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 28 November 2018, 14:43:02
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Wed, 28 November 2018, 14:57:27
Is there a render of bone alphas and umka mods?
There's one of Carbon Cadet and Umka mods on the drop page, which is quite similar.
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 28 November 2018, 14:58:34
As i said previously you will be able to adjust your order in case some wanted kits will not make into production. Also its more likely that Massdrop will make the Bone base regardless of it not meeting the MOQ requirements. Bone base is a full set which can be offered later in a recap sale and that makes sense to make it happen. But this is not set in stone and is only my assumption. So don't quote me on this. We should wait until the drop ends ;)
Will we have any more info before drop finish?
The issue i see is this.
I want a base-kit and prefer bone. If i order bone and it doesnt get through then im stuck with no base at all. I rather have orange base than no kit at all, and i assume you wont be able to add things after drop has ended if some kits doesnt make it through.
Unfortunately, a lot of the decision on which kits will be made is dependent on what the order quantities look like after the drop ends.
We will of course reach out to those that have ordered kits that will not be made due to MOQ (hopefully none!). You will have the option of cancelling the entire order, take the order as is minus the kits not been made, or make changes to what kits are been ordered.
This will be a bit of a manual process so depending on how many people are affected, it might take a little longer to get to everyone.
Hi Yanbo,
Please please please get all the kits made irrespective of MOQ. Try to convince GMK that this could be a one off for low MOQ kits. This is a very unique drop and lots folks are backing out due to R0/5 keys and cost, due to this being a pioneer set with new tooling. But in future other kits will avail these developments. The color scheme here are so unique that it will be a travesty to not to reward those who are participating in it.
Let the sheeps be sheeps, we are willing to support our innovative kits, the effort deserves acknowledgement & reciprocity from vendor as well given our support of other GMK drops.
Post by: Lormania on Wed, 28 November 2018, 15:48:21
Post by: Lotsati on Wed, 28 November 2018, 16:04:56
Post by: Daggerfall on Thu, 29 November 2018, 02:38:37
Getting those keys is a dealbreaker for me and I wont be getting they base kit without it :S
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 29 November 2018, 03:29:27
As i said previously you will be able to adjust your order in case some wanted kits will not make into production. Also its more likely that Massdrop will make the Bone base regardless of it not meeting the MOQ requirements. Bone base is a full set which can be offered later in a recap sale and that makes sense to make it happen. But this is not set in stone and is only my assumption. So don't quote me on this. We should wait until the drop ends ;)
Will we have any more info before drop finish?
The issue i see is this.
I want a base-kit and prefer bone. If i order bone and it doesnt get through then im stuck with no base at all. I rather have orange base than no kit at all, and i assume you wont be able to add things after drop has ended if some kits doesnt make it through.
Unfortunately, a lot of the decision on which kits will be made is dependent on what the order quantities look like after the drop ends.
We will of course reach out to those that have ordered kits that will not be made due to MOQ (hopefully none!). You will have the option of cancelling the entire order, take the order as is minus the kits not been made, or make changes to what kits are been ordered.
This will be a bit of a manual process so depending on how many people are affected, it might take a little longer to get to everyone.
Hi Yanbo,
Please please please get all the kits made irrespective of MOQ. Try to convince GMK that this could be a one off for low MOQ kits. This is a very unique drop and lots folks are backing out due to R0/5 keys and cost, due to this being a pioneer set with new tooling. But in future other kits will avail these developments. The color scheme here are so unique that it will be a travesty to not to reward those who are participating in it.
Let the sheeps be sheeps, we are willing to support our innovative kits, the effort deserves acknowledgement & reciprocity from vendor as well given our support of other GMK drops.
I am sure they will do what they can but at the end of the day sure GMK doesn't care. I mean sad truth of this is, that GMK doesn't need the custom keyboard community stay afloat. In fact its most likely 1-100th of there entire business. That is what they are there a multi million dollar business.
I can't see Massdrop eating the price of the kits that don't make it. I mean it made since in the past they would since they were compatible with other kits and could be used in future remix drops are what ever there called. The fact this is row 0 and row 5 means its completely unique and not really interchangeable with other kits at this time.
I mean, I personally think Yanbo was being nice really nice and just trying to give a pep-talk to bolster numbers but grim reality is grim. I am not saying this to be a jerk just looking at it from a logical stand point.
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 November 2018, 06:09:26
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/4TF3ES1ITcw8c386zvK5_GMKcarbonStatus181128.PNG?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=796&h=425&dpr=1)
Let me explain why we all need this... In the old age, when humanity knew that keyboards were very important, and an effort should be put in to make them as awesome as they could, whatever the cost, there was a distinct profile for each row.
Why? If you have R0 and R5, the caps then do a better job to compensate for the distance between them and your fingers by reaching out you.
However, as we all know, in recent times more and more commoners have learned how to operate a computer, and commoners do not have the cognitive capacity to know if the top and bottom two rows are the same profile or not, and how it is helping their daily keyboard activities. So, sadly, we have come to a time that it makes business sense to omit this vital function in the production of keyboards.
BUT, we here on GH know better. Those that have tasted the sweet nectar of R5 have never looked back, so it is also with the legendary R0. I play Starcraft II avidly and having a R0 F row on my RS96 with the GMK Iris set gives me a massive advantage since I can push those keys faster since they are closer to me since they are hard at work at REACHING out to me. Love those guys to bits. I think GMK Iris is probably the most ugly keycap set I've seen. I only bought them for R0. So I'm really excited to get these R0 beige to combine with my GMK classic beige set.
Also, the unique profiles for each row make keyboards more beautiful! Especially 40%-96% boards, since they make the landscape of the keyboard more varied, compensating for the lack of bezels inbetween keys! I've always found the double R1 rows make these keyboards look hideous.
But don't take my word for all this, try it for yourself! If you don't like you can always sell it. There are almost no GMK R0 sets on the market so it will be easy to sell at a good price.
Post by: Kawamashi on Thu, 29 November 2018, 07:12:42
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 29 November 2018, 09:03:26
I am sure they will do what they can but at the end of the day sure GMK doesn't care. I mean sad truth of this is, that GMK doesn't need the custom keyboard community stay afloat. In fact its most likely 1-100th of there entire business. That is what they are there a multi million dollar business.
I can't see Massdrop eating the price of the kits that don't make it. I mean it made since in the past they would since they were compatible with other kits and could be used in future remix drops are what ever there called. The fact this is row 0 and row 5 means its completely unique and not really interchangeable with other kits at this time.
I mean, I personally think Yanbo was being nice really nice and just trying to give a pep-talk to bolster numbers but grim reality is grim. I am not saying this to be a jerk just looking at it from a logical stand point.
Are you sure about that? People said the same thing about SP for years. But it turns out that custom keysets have grown so much as a business that they now make up a good percentage of SP's bottom line. Without confirmation from GMK, I wouldn't bandy that around so much.
Post by: newbatthis on Thu, 29 November 2018, 12:19:04
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 29 November 2018, 12:50:15
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Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 29 November 2018, 13:04:10
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 29 November 2018, 14:11:17
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/L7dQE2qoSGQoAIiefT2R_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-29%20-%20post.jpg)
The struggle is real. What is GMK's stance on running alphas separate from mods? I know people like to have a nice base set, but then complain about the pricing. Maybe splitting them up into 20 more kits would have helped.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 29 November 2018, 14:23:59
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/L7dQE2qoSGQoAIiefT2R_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-29%20-%20post.jpg)
The struggle is real. What is GMK's stance on running alphas separate from mods? I know people like to have a nice base set, but then complain about the pricing. Maybe splitting them up into 20 more kits would have helped.
General rule with GMK keysets is: splitting is bad.
If you split base you will get worse per key ratio. Just compare pricing at equal moq of boneyard alphs and umka to one of the base sets.
The problem of this drop is the variety. Too many options and too many keys. For example Base sets have too much variety thus they cost 160$. But per key ratio is just fine.
Most problematic are the options and here is a good example why: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/talk/2273756?utm_source=linkshare&referer=FUZWTE
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 29 November 2018, 14:33:34
Update.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/L7dQE2qoSGQoAIiefT2R_GMK%20Carbon%20Number%20Update%2011-29%20-%20post.jpg)
The struggle is real. What is GMK's stance on running alphas separate from mods? I know people like to have a nice base set, but then complain about the pricing. Maybe splitting them up into 20 more kits would have helped.
General rule with GMK keysets is: splitting is bad.
If you split base you will get worse per key ratio. Just compare pricing at equal moq of boneyard alphs and umka to one of the base sets.
The problem of this drop is the variety. Too many options and too many keys. For example Base sets have too much variety thus they cost 160$. But per key ratio is just fine.
Most problematic are the options and here is a good example why: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/talk/2273756?utm_source=linkshare&referer=FUZWTE
So by going with the many kits stategy (a la Signature Plastics) backfires when it's GMK and has probably doomed this drop. There's going to be a lot of disappointed participants. Good luck to them.
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 29 November 2018, 15:22:26
Does anyone know what is a typical order #s for GMK set from proxies? I understand they submit their orders at the very end.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 29 November 2018, 15:48:22
At this point looking for a miracle and healthy boost from Asian proxies to boost the #s. Good to see that Umka and Beezarre are still going up, even so slightly.
Does anyone know what is a typical order #s for GMK set from proxies? I understand they submit their orders at the very end.
don't expect too much
Post by: bengine on Thu, 29 November 2018, 15:50:20
At this point looking for a miracle and healthy boost from Asian proxies to boost the #s. Good to see that Umka and Beezarre are still going up, even so slightly.
Does anyone know what is a typical order #s for GMK set from proxies? I understand they submit their orders at the very end.
I thought there’s no proxy for this drop at all? This GB is handled by MD only, iirc.
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 29 November 2018, 16:04:25
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 29 November 2018, 17:03:24
How come it never struck me with this I don't know, but do you actually think that if you have combined the boneyard alpha into the Umka mods, you'd get another base set at literally the same price as the current price for the umka mods. The downside is the higher MOQ, but really, free boneyard alphas?
General rule with GMK keysets is: splitting is bad.
If you split base you will get worse per key ratio. Just compare pricing at equal moq of boneyard alphs and umka to one of the base sets.
The problem of this drop is the variety. Too many options and too many keys. For example Base sets have too much variety thus they cost 160$. But per key ratio is just fine.
Most problematic are the options and here is a good example why: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/talk/2273756?utm_source=linkshare&referer=FUZWTE
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 29 November 2018, 17:17:07
How come it never struck me with this I don't know, but do you actually think that if you have combined the boneyard alpha into the Umka mods, you'd get another base set at literally the same price as the current price for the umka mods. The downside is the higher MOQ, but really, free boneyard alphas?
General rule with GMK keysets is: splitting is bad.
If you split base you will get worse per key ratio. Just compare pricing at equal moq of boneyard alphs and umka to one of the base sets.
The problem of this drop is the variety. Too many options and too many keys. For example Base sets have too much variety thus they cost 160$. But per key ratio is just fine.
Most problematic are the options and here is a good example why: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/talk/2273756?utm_source=linkshare&referer=FUZWTE
Yes. If boneyard would be combined with Umka into one base set it would cost 160$ at 250 MOQ. This is how it works. So basically every kit which is not Base kit has some kind of 'tax' in it and there is no way around it. But keep in mind the kits cost what they cost. There is no artificial price increase to get more money out of you. You pay really only for the manufacturing of those keys.
Small disclaimer: by base kit i mean a specific kit with specific amount of keys and specific constellation of keys. To make it little bit easier to understand - the more keys a kit has the cheaper is the price per key. That's one very rough rule which does not take into account factors like: what type of keys those are? which colors are used? how many colors are used? etc. etc. etc. etc. factor after factor which do affect the price in some kind of way.
The calculation of the costs at GMK but also at SP is weird and very complicated and many people have no idea how complicated it really is. GMKs manufacturing process is very different from SP. I've been there and I've seen manufacturing and i know what i am talking about.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 29 November 2018, 17:50:02
Post by: thelaughingman on Thu, 29 November 2018, 18:25:24
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 29 November 2018, 22:14:04
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 November 2018, 00:23:08
Joined in last week, but if any of the kits got cancelled I would have to cancel my whole order :(.
MD will probably get them all ran, but yeah we'll see
Post by: mimalik on Fri, 30 November 2018, 12:37:06
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 30 November 2018, 12:41:36
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Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Fri, 30 November 2018, 14:01:59
Fingers crossed this traction keeps up!
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:15:17
Joined in last week, but if any of the kits got cancelled I would have to cancel my whole order :(.
Does Massdrop allow for that?
Post by: rondg on Fri, 30 November 2018, 16:28:04
Joined in last week, but if any of the kits got cancelled I would have to cancel my whole order :(.
Does Massdrop allow for that?
I think it was mentioned that if you have a set that did not meet MOQ, they will contact you to ask if you would like to continue with the order and pick other kits or cancel the whole order.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 30 November 2018, 16:39:29
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 30 November 2018, 19:07:13
What was the reasoning in the bone base kit for having mix icons and text mods? Wouldn't having a full text mods, or icon mods base kit with a supplement kit for the other that is not the base kit make more sense?
Regards,
Post by: thelaughingman on Fri, 30 November 2018, 21:04:47
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Post by: thelaughingman on Fri, 30 November 2018, 21:18:32
I apologize if this has been answered before.
What was the reasoning in the bone base kit for having mix icons and text mods? Wouldn't having a full text mods, or icon mods base kit with a supplement kit for the other that is not the base kit make more sense?
Regards,
From my observation, the "standard" way of doing icon mods in previous custom GMK sets have always been mix icons & text as in the Bone base kit. For some reason or another, people prefers bottom row to be text (Control / Alt / Win / Code) and the nav cluster is always just an after thought (60% masterrace?). The Carbon base kit is full text, and T0mb3ry's remedy to the Bone base kit is the Bone Icon extension kit where bottom row & nav cluster become icons also.
Appreciate if a designer / someone more knowledgable would chime in on this. Cheers!
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 30 November 2018, 21:28:59
Post by: rondg on Fri, 30 November 2018, 21:30:02
Post by: mark3611 on Fri, 30 November 2018, 23:25:20
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 01 December 2018, 01:24:38
I think we'll get next week more information ;)
Post by: nipnull on Sat, 01 December 2018, 01:26:48
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Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 01 December 2018, 01:42:33
Joined in last week, but if any of the kits got cancelled I would have to cancel my whole order :(.
Does Massdrop allow for that?
I think it was mentioned that if you have a set that did not meet MOQ, they will contact you to ask if you would like to continue with the order and pick other kits or cancel the whole order.
YanboWu confirmed (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/talk/2273788) that those who orderd kit(s) that aren't produced will be given the chance to revise their orders after the drop ends.
<rant> This is one of the questions that comes up every single drop - why do they only address it in the discussions, drop after drop? How many purchasers even follow the discussions? I really wish Massdrop would make a keycap drop FAQ and put a link to it near the top of every drop - something like this (http://www.mechsupply.co.uk/how-it-works). <end of rant>
Post by: Helldrop on Sat, 01 December 2018, 01:51:20
Post by: nipnull on Sat, 01 December 2018, 01:52:03
Today my order was paid, even though two thirds of options I ordered couldn’t hit the MOQ. I wonder what this means.Same thing
Post by: snelltrail on Sat, 01 December 2018, 02:09:17
Today my order was paid, even though two thirds of options I ordered couldn’t hit the MOQ. I wonder what this means.Same thing
Yeah, I'd prefer not to get charged until after we've clarified exactly what's happening with those kits that didn't make MOQ.
Post by: sagadoi on Sat, 01 December 2018, 02:55:33
Me too.Today my order was paid, even though two thirds of options I ordered couldn’t hit the MOQ. I wonder what this means.Same thing
Wish all the kit done.
Post by: dantambok on Sat, 01 December 2018, 03:15:10
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 01 December 2018, 03:21:47
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
I got also permission from Dvorcol to use his awesome and informative charts. The charts below are interesting because they do show the order trends through whole drop.
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/pWawnUUGTe2NcXdytPqd_GMKcarbonStatus181130c.PNG)
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/mwWbhDxGTUmOpHq53sQ9_GMKcarbonHistory181130cP1.PNG)
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/qSWECXM9Rqew12UKbQUQ_GMKcarbonHistory181130cP2.PNG)
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 01 December 2018, 07:21:58
Understandable that many people skipped it even if it was the hotter set of the batch.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 01 December 2018, 07:34:20
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 01 December 2018, 08:17:04
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 01 December 2018, 10:00:58
Post by: thelaughingman on Sat, 01 December 2018, 10:19:06
i kinda think i was charged twice, once when i joined, once now. I must check
The "charge" when you joined should be just 1USD, it's an "auth"/test charge just to make sure the card you entered is valid and the 1USD amount is released/returned fairly quickly. And the charge when the drop ends should cover the full amounts of your order, this is what you should be paying attention to.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 01 December 2018, 12:39:43
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 13:37:41
Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:11:56
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 14:54:14
Anyone selling their umka order?
Looks like umka did make it to moq
Post by: rondg on Sat, 01 December 2018, 16:57:34
pls make bone base and boneyard alphas. Thank you. These will be more endgame caps.
This.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 01 December 2018, 17:07:20
Base Carbon
Novelties
Salty
Carbon Cadet
Warning Signs Number Row
Does that mean all of those were made? How do you tell what hit MOQ/What they went through and made?
Post by: mimalik on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:58:38
So they took my money for
Base Carbon
Novelties
Salty
Carbon Cadet
Warning Signs Number Row
Does that mean all of those were made? How do you tell what hit MOQ/What they went through and made?
Assuming all the kits will make it, unless MD says otherwise. Its a bit early but no news is good news in this instance.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 20:08:39
So they took my money for
Base Carbon
Novelties
Salty
Carbon Cadet
Warning Signs Number Row
Does that mean all of those were made? How do you tell what hit MOQ/What they went through and made?
Assuming all the kits will make it, unless MD says otherwise. Its a bit early but no news is good news in this instance.
Pretty sure MD staff havent looked at it.
Post by: bengine on Sat, 01 December 2018, 20:18:00
And I think none of the MD staffs are looking at it since it’s weekend now.
We’ll know more come Monday morning.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 01 December 2018, 21:02:28
I’m very sure those charging are just the usual MD order system that charges everything in the order without checking for MOQ.
And I think none of the MD staffs are looking at it since it’s weekend now.
We’ll know more come Monday morning.
Pressy sure that's the case yeah. Hopefully the bone stuff will get made. Fingers crossed.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:48:16
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sun, 02 December 2018, 00:42:32
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 01:36:31
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
Not a big deal but kind of weird MD won’t let buyers know
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 07:35:49
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
Not a big deal but kind of weird MD won’t let buyers know
It is a big deal because price breaks should be honoured. It is misleading.
Also, all I see is only a single kit of Salty offered with 193 sold.
Post by: codywanks on Sun, 02 December 2018, 09:26:57
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture... Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
This really shouldn't be our problem.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
It becomes substantial if you ordered multiple Salty kits, as I have.
It is a big deal because price breaks should be honoured. It is misleading.
Also, all I see is only a single kit of Salty offered with 193 sold.
Exactly.
Oh the irony... Feeling salty over the price of the salty kit
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 10:06:03
Post by: mrpetrov on Sun, 02 December 2018, 10:15:28
i didnt see multiple slaty kits on check out? what are they talking about two kits? if there were two kits they should have been split so were not getting lied to lol.
Yeah - if that's true (and I can't really believe that's true?!) - that's straight out misleading advertising, really unacceptable. Again it's not the amount that's the issue ($5, whatever), but the principle is. MD should absolutely wear that.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 10:22:47
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 11:12:28
Let's not jump to conclusion, probably a clueless support staff on weekend. Wait for Monday and their confirmation.
i agree just sounds fishy, im not worried as ill still want the kit even minus the price drop just would like these buys to be a tad more honest, as we trust a company with thousands and thousands of out dollars then find out weird changes after we pay. Would be nice to have thing a little more clear cut so we know whats going on. but as you said could be a clueless employee that really has no clue.
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 02 December 2018, 11:35:22
Let's not jump to conclusion, probably a clueless support staff on weekend. Wait for Monday and their confirmation.
i agree just sounds fishy, im not worried as ill still want the kit even minus the price drop just would like these buys to be a tad more honest, as we trust a company with thousands and thousands of out dollars then find out weird changes after we pay. Would be nice to have thing a little more clear cut so we know whats going on. but as you said could be a clueless employee that really has no clue.
That's one of their largest issues, in that they have to have support people knowledgeable in the procedures for all of these niche categories. As support is very turnover-prone, you can easily get someone that doesn't know the significance of these little bits of plastic. Best thing is to exercise patience and not be afraid to escalate. As the drop just ended, I'm sure that they're looking at numbers (not updated since the 30th, so those are even probably off), and dollars, and seeing how best to bring this home.
Post by: MassdropYanbo on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:31:44
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
I think there is some confusion. I'll be checking through everything on Monday and syncing with the support team on all these.
If price breaks are achieved we'll honor them of course.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:54:57
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
I think there is some confusion. I'll be checking through everything on Monday and syncing with the support team on all these.
If price breaks are achieved we'll honor them of course.
Good to see you here!
People on another thread were curious whether MD will start a Holy Panda GB this month! If you have time may be worth saying something!
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 03 December 2018, 15:56:09
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 03 December 2018, 16:08:55
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
I think there is some confusion. I'll be checking through everything on Monday and syncing with the support team on all these.
If price breaks are achieved we'll honor them of course.
This is a great response, but at the same time it doesn't answer the fundamental question...
Is there or isn't there 2 separate kits? And if there is 2 separate kits, why were the 2 separate kits advertised as such?
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 03 December 2018, 23:45:06
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
I think there is some confusion. I'll be checking through everything on Monday and syncing with the support team on all these.
If price breaks are achieved we'll honor them of course.
This is a great response, but at the same time it doesn't answer the fundamental question...
Is there or isn't there 2 separate kits? And if there is 2 separate kits, why were the 2 separate kits advertised as such?
There is only 1 kit. I forgot to adjust the price on the back end when I updated the numbers and that's why the amount charged does not reflect the price break. Don't worry, we'll get it all sorted.
Yes, I work at MD (as of October).
Post by: Daggerfall on Tue, 04 December 2018, 05:53:41
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 04 December 2018, 17:19:35
Quote from: Yanbo
Hey quick note to everyone while everyone is waiting.
I'm still sorting through the various kits to see what we can make happen and what's actually to far away. We'll have an update out to everyone affected soon. There are quite a few factors to consider so it's taking a bit longer than usual.
Thank you for your patience in the meantime!
Regarding Salty Kit - i think there was a price error and we'll get everyone a refund if that was the case. I'd like to get everything addressed together so nothing has happened here even though it's very cut and dried.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 04 December 2018, 19:32:07
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 04 December 2018, 20:13:17
pls pls make bone alpha and bone mods. Pls
...these too and space cadet as well
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 04 December 2018, 22:25:50
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:05:38
Post by: snelltrail on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:59:49
The update from Yanbo is making me nervous, esp for my beloved Beezarre kit. Still being optimistic that all the kits will get picked up.
Also really hoping that Beezarre gets made!
Post by: Lormania on Thu, 06 December 2018, 10:56:12
Post by: silversung on Thu, 06 December 2018, 17:32:16
Post by: polarsolar on Thu, 06 December 2018, 18:32:24
For what it's worth, I also ordered spacebars and number row warning signs (and bones base + bone icon mods), and this message only mentioned the DC kit. That's not a confirmation that the other kits made it, but FYI.
The email only offered the options to stay in for all the remaining kits or to cancel the whole order. I sent a message back asking whether I can keep some kits and drop others -- fingers crossed.
Post by: sujikinen on Thu, 06 December 2018, 19:09:22
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 06 December 2018, 19:52:52
I just got a message from MD saying the DC kit didn't make it.
For what it's worth, I also ordered spacebars and number row warning signs (and bones base + bone icon mods), and this message only mentioned the DC kit. That's not a confirmation that the other kits made it, but FYI.
The email only offered the options to stay in for all the remaining kits or to cancel the whole order. I sent a message back asking whether I can keep some kits and drop others -- fingers crossed.
Did they give you option to select from other kits which will be made? If yes then which kits were offered?
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 06 December 2018, 19:54:19
I just got a message from MD saying the DC kit didn't make it.
For what it's worth, I also ordered spacebars and number row warning signs (and bones base + bone icon mods), and this message only mentioned the DC kit. That's not a confirmation that the other kits made it, but FYI.
The email only offered the options to stay in for all the remaining kits or to cancel the whole order. I sent a message back asking whether I can keep some kits and drop others -- fingers crossed.
Did they give you option to select from other kits which will be made? If yes then which kits were offered?
Lol upon reading your post again..... ignore my query.
Post by: polarsolar on Fri, 07 December 2018, 12:17:07
Did they give you option to select from other kits which will be made? If yes then which kits were offered?
:D
Support just emailed and manually changed which kits I'm getting in the drop, so that's an option. I didn't ask for a full list of what's getting made and didn't ask to add any other kits -- sorry, no added info there. I'm still in for spacebars, bone icon mods, and R1 warning signs.
Post by: mimalik on Fri, 07 December 2018, 12:29:01
Post by: slom on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:30:54
It appears that so far only NorDeUK (from MD portal comments) and DC kits are the casualty. Anyone got email for kit cancellation?? This suspense is killing me, since drop end I am checking GH and MD portal every 10 mins.
I still have a few international kits, if someone from Europe is interested. I have a FS thread on DT if you want pictures.
edit: hope it is ok to "advertise" here. I deliberately waited until the drop is over. If not tell me and I will remove this.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:38:37
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:47:36
Everything else will be made ;)
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:49:05
From all the kits only NorDeUK and DC Kit are discarded. So for some people these are definitely bad news :(
Everything else will be made ;)
amazing.
Post by: rondg on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:50:02
From all the kits only NorDeUK and DC Kit are discarded. So for some people these are definitely bad news :(
Everything else will be made ;)
Bone kits! Very nice!
Post by: bobdenard on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:53:47
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Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Fri, 07 December 2018, 15:32:49
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 16:38:06
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 07 December 2018, 16:39:33
Post by: mimalik on Fri, 07 December 2018, 17:12:35
The masses will be creaming their panties when they see how good bone kits look. Really glad they went through. Woohoo!
I have same feeling about Umka, Cadet and Beezarre. Just the combination possibilities with Space Cadet, Calm Depths...woot woot
T0mb3ry, please no more GMK Carbon drops, atleast not with the options we had in this one. We all showed our commitments and love for this innovative drop. We should have privilege of having these unicorns to ourselves.
Post by: mimalik on Fri, 07 December 2018, 17:25:13
In my humble opinion Umka was star of this drop besides R0/5 keys. And I am just nuts for anything orange.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 07 December 2018, 17:45:13
T0mb3ry, please no more GMK Carbon drops, atleast not with the options we had in this one. We all showed our commitments and love for this innovative drop. We should have privilege of having these unicorns to ourselves.(https://pp.userapi.com/c624123/v624123983/2009f/rPp_mjmXWY0.jpg)
The sheer amount of options is that made this drop struggle. So in this regard do not worry. I will not offer a GMK set with this variety of keys and kits again. Things like warning signs in Bone colors will not be offered again. Also the strict R0 and R5 combination is going to be unique for round 2. I might (definitely not guaranteed) offer R0 or R5 only as addon kit (and probably not the r0/r5 combo but more single rows) again but that will cost a fortune if you think about that the upgrade kit costs around 130$. Splitted it will cost even more. Also to pull Umka or Bone as single drops is at this current moment unrealistically, because of the custom colors which will set up the MOQ at 250 and because Bone and Umka are niche inside a niche. So basically, including Bone and Umka in this drop was the only chance to work around the 250 MOQ (tho Bone was at 250 MOQ too but i expected it to do better) for custom colors. So overall those who picked Bones and especially Umka made a safe choice if it comes to rarity. Tho rarity does not make it any greater and honestly i wish people buy my sets for their personal needs.
But anyway if next GMK Carbon R3 happens (IF is the biggest question and it will definitely not happen any time soon - definitely not in 2 years) then the R3 will be by far smaller, with minimum variety and with R1 function / R4 bottom rows. So some keys and some combinations are definitely unique to R2 and it was the only chance to get those ;) Some people might think now i am causing artificial scarcity. No its not! Its real scarcity because of the fact that such things are not feasible to realize given the reality, what simple designs are really hard to pull off because those do not sell in reasonable quantities.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 07 December 2018, 20:47:15
T0mb3ry, please no more GMK Carbon drops, atleast not with the options we had in this one. We all showed our commitments and love for this innovative drop. We should have privilege of having these unicorns to ourselves.Show Image(https://pp.userapi.com/c624123/v624123983/2009f/rPp_mjmXWY0.jpg)
The sheer amount of options is that made this drop struggle. So in this regard do not worry. I will not offer a GMK set with this variety of keys and kits again. Things like warning signs in Bone colors will not be offered again. Also the strict R0 and R5 combination is going to be unique for round 2. I might (definitely not guaranteed) offer R0 or R5 only as addon kit (and probably not the r0/r5 combo but more single rows) again but that will cost a fortune if you think about that the upgrade kit costs around 130$. Splitted it will cost even more. Also to pull Umka or Bone as single drops is at this current moment unrealistically, because of the custom colors which will set up the MOQ at 250 and because Bone and Umka are niche inside a niche. So basically, including Bone and Umka in this drop was the only chance to work around the 250 MOQ (tho Bone was at 250 MOQ too but i expected it to do better) for custom colors. So overall those who picked Bones and especially Umka made a safe choice if it comes to rarity. Tho rarity does not make it any greater and honestly i wish people buy my sets for their personal needs.
But anyway if next GMK Carbon R3 happens (IF is the biggest question and it will definitely not happen any time soon - definitely not in 2 years) then the R3 will be by far smaller, with minimum variety and with R1 function / R4 bottom rows. So some keys and some combinations are definitely unique to R2 and it was the only chance to get those ;) Some people might think now i am causing artificial scarcity. No its not! Its real scarcity because of the fact that such things are not feasible to realize given the reality, what simple designs are really hard to pull off because those do not sell in reasonable quantities.
So glad bone alpha and bone mods made it. I love bone color options so much.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 07 December 2018, 20:48:29
The masses will be creaming their panties when they see how good bone kits look. Really glad they went through. Woohoo!
I got all the bone stuff. So amazing
Post by: 112227 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 22:52:42
Post by: xarkkon on Sat, 08 December 2018, 09:15:15
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:12:37
Post by: fireworm on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:19:16
The masses will be creaming their panties when they see how good bone kits look. Really glad they went through. Woohoo!I believe you mean Umka-ing?
Post by: Hokabuki on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:57:15
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:19:57
Just to know, did you guys got the $10 coupon bundled with the set from MD?
If its anything like the ones that I received, it's not a coupon as such, but a credit on the next thing you buy. You can see it by joining a drop, and checking to see if the -$10 credit is there. You don't have to complete the drop after that.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:27:33
Just to know, did you guys got the $10 coupon bundled with the set from MD?
I have 2 orders and got one coupon
Post by: fer.real on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:47:30
Just to know, did you guys got the $10 coupon bundled with the set from MD?
I have 2 orders and got one coupon
I don't think they've awarded the credits yet. At least I haven't received it.
I asked about it on Massdrop. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/69296/talk/2282124
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:48:53
Just to know, did you guys got the $10 coupon bundled with the set from MD?
I have 2 orders and got one coupon
I don't think they've awarded the credits yet. At least I haven't received it.
I asked about it on Massdrop. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/69296/talk/2282124
Then I guess it might have been the credits from the delay of xda canvas
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 08 December 2018, 13:14:28
The masses will be creaming their panties when they see how good bone kits look. Really glad they went through. Woohoo!I believe you mean Umka-ing?
Yes, Umka-ing. my bad.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 08 December 2018, 18:50:53
also got bone. HYPE.
Boner bone bone bone
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 15 December 2018, 19:48:10
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 15 December 2018, 19:50:16
Would i be able to use a R1 Norde kit on this round?
Profile wise yes. Color wise, should also be the case. GMK is pretty good with creating the same colors accurately every time, unlike SP where you will always notice a difference in shades when they use a different batch of resin. While nobody can guarantee it, I would personally say you should be very safe to do so.
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 15 December 2018, 20:04:20
Would i be able to use a R1 Norde kit on this round?
Profile wise yes. Color wise, should also be the case. GMK is pretty good with creating the same colors accurately every time, unlike SP where you will always notice a difference in shades when they use a different batch of resin. While nobody can guarantee it, I would personally say you should be very safe to do so.
Cheers mate! :-*
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 16 December 2018, 08:19:45
Would i be able to use a R1 Norde kit on this round?If you want to use ISO DE then you will be missing two keys ('# and *+~). Those keys were part of the R1 base set and thus were not included in the NorDeUK kit of R1.
Otherwise the colors should match R1 and vice versa.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Thu, 20 December 2018, 18:11:52
- Did the space kit make it into the group buy?
- It looks like the spacekit has 2.25 and 2.75 convex spacebars (listed as R4c) (https://i.imgur.com/ww0DZLQ.png)? Has GMK confirmed they've produced those new molds?
Thanks so much!
Post by: Acereconkeys on Thu, 20 December 2018, 18:42:18
Quick questions that someone can hopefully confirm?
- Did the space kit make it into the group buy?
- It looks like the spacekit has 2.25 and 2.75 convex spacebars (listed as R4c) (https://i.imgur.com/ww0DZLQ.png)? Has GMK confirmed they've produced those new molds?
Thanks so much!
Yes and they've confirmed they will make the keys, if they've made the molds yet I don't think anyone can know.
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 20 December 2018, 21:08:10
Quick questions that someone can hopefully confirm?
- Did the space kit make it into the group buy?
- It looks like the spacekit has 2.25 and 2.75 convex spacebars (listed as R4c) (https://i.imgur.com/ww0DZLQ.png)? Has GMK confirmed they've produced those new molds?
Thanks so much!
Only two kits didn’t make it: NorDeUK and Colevrak
Post by: SBN on Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:07:28
I was having some issues earlier with the drop, my account, and payment issues. While talking to MD I asked what the deal was with all of the sets (which ones were getting made even though they didn't hit MOQ, etc) since I was charged for all of them and got this response
As to the second question, GMK Electronic Design GMBH is a reputable firm known for quality and design. We will have to see what happens during the manufacturing process. I wish I had a better answer.
So pretty much in line with what has been discussed.
Something else I thought was interesting. We aren't getting the 150 price break for Salty. I showed the guy I was talking to the picture that had the most up to date/recent information about how many/what sets were sold, and what MOQs/price drops were hit.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
So that picture clearly shows that 193 Salty kits were sold - and that the price break of 29.99 was reached. However, when I asked the guy why I was charged 34.99 I received this answer:
When the drop page was written it didn't really clarify it as much as I would have hoped.
So, there are two additional kits, both in the color "salty" basically two different runs of manufacture.
When the manufacturer has to change from one style or color to another that takes time and resources. That's why they offer the discount when they reach a quantity threshold because of the reduced cost in not having to switch thing up as much. Make sense? So, for the discount to apply each style/ color would need to hit that threshold. Since one hit 113 and the other 79, neither hit the 150 needed to apply a discount to either style.
It's only 5$ so I'm not too worried about it. Just figured I would share though because it seemed kind of weird.
I just got refunded 5$, so I guess they are staying true to the "one" salty kit with 193 sold.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 05 January 2019, 23:15:10
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 16 January 2019, 13:35:55
GMK is in pre production phase. New molds will be produced probably next week and productions will begin approximately in two weeks. So i call it already "IN PRODUCTION" because things are already moving.
Regarding the R0 keys. GMK will pack the R0 keys in separate small trays, so those will be wrapped properly.
Post by: nasp on Wed, 16 January 2019, 14:02:59
Does that mean we can expect this to arrive before the estimated ship date of April?
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 16 January 2019, 14:11:44
Does that mean we can expect this to arrive before the estimated ship date of April?
After being in the hobby for close to 5 years, the word "expect" no longer exists in my vocabulary and I feel my life has gotten better for it ;D
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 16 January 2019, 14:25:27
Will start production in 2 weeks?! :thumb:
Does that mean we can expect this to arrive before the estimated ship date of April?
I am using words like probably and approximately for a reason... :))
If everything goes smoothly the production will probably start in two weeks. Tho i don't think Carbon will ship prior April because the order is quite large.
Post by: SBN on Wed, 16 January 2019, 14:46:55
Please keep us updated and post every picture of the process you can! :P
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:31:03
Will start production in 2 weeks?! :thumb:
Does that mean we can expect this to arrive before the estimated ship date of April?
I am using words like probably and approximately for a reason... :))
If everything goes smoothly the production will probably start in two weeks. Tho i don't think Carbon will ship prior April because the order is quite large.
Well have we seen the samples approved yet? I have not followed for a while.
I believe for Calm Depth sample was approved before GB ended.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:34:52
Will start production in 2 weeks?! :thumb:
Does that mean we can expect this to arrive before the estimated ship date of April?
I am using words like probably and approximately for a reason... :))
If everything goes smoothly the production will probably start in two weeks. Tho i don't think Carbon will ship prior April because the order is quite large.
Well have we seen the samples approved yet? I have not followed for a while.
I believe for Calm Depth sample was approved before GB ended.
There will be no samples because colors were matched in year 2016.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 16 January 2019, 16:37:13
Will start production in 2 weeks?! :thumb:
Does that mean we can expect this to arrive before the estimated ship date of April?
I am using words like probably and approximately for a reason... :))
If everything goes smoothly the production will probably start in two weeks. Tho i don't think Carbon will ship prior April because the order is quite large.
Well have we seen the samples approved yet? I have not followed for a while.
I believe for Calm Depth sample was approved before GB ended.
There will be no samples because colors were matched in year 2016.
Thanks for the clarification! I am not in a hurry at all, just curious :)
Thanks for the great work. Absolutely loved the bone stuff and salty kits.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 16 January 2019, 19:51:43
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 30 January 2019, 22:02:10
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 30 January 2019, 22:23:03
Bone will be bae. Good thing they are exclusive to R2 only :cool:
Got in for all bone stuff :)
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 30 January 2019, 22:30:41
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 31 January 2019, 15:13:29
Bone will be bae. Good thing they are exclusive to R2 only :cool:
Guess MD will make them available for a recap at 1.2X or 1.3X, as per usual.
They will look so good on a gray or titanium gray case
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 21 February 2019, 14:09:00
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 21 February 2019, 14:17:17
Did the colour samples get posted?
What color samples? This is a re-run of the first round from 2016, the colors are already matched.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 21 February 2019, 18:23:26
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 26 March 2019, 01:03:20
GMK Carbon is shipping soon to Massdrop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvdAny1HCci/
Note the R0 and R5 (especially 1.25u) keys ^-^
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 26 March 2019, 09:15:18
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 26 March 2019, 09:18:06
Small update for you guys.
GMK Carbon is shipping soon to Massdrop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvdAny1HCci/
Note the R0 and R5 (especially 1.25u) keys ^-^
Stoked!
Post by: dk4one on Tue, 26 March 2019, 10:09:48
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 26 March 2019, 12:18:46
Regret starts to kick in real hard now. I wish I had pulled the trigger back then :'(. Want to buy extra spot for anything boneyard related (boneyard base, boneyard alphas, etc.) Willing to pay handsome price, especially umka mods, since I know only 50 sets of those were made. Please help!
Pretty sure MD will have them in recap events, but you need to be super fast and be willing to pay 1.2 - 1.3X
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 26 March 2019, 14:33:43
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7803/32531924637_d9f7bd412d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RyJBNn)Boneyard 1 (https://flic.kr/p/RyJBNn) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7863/46558478665_e08cb27ba4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dWdnCM)Boneyard 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2dWdnCM) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
More photos will follow. Its just too much to do photos of everything in one day...
Post by: KaosJ on Tue, 26 March 2019, 14:59:59
Small update for you guys.
GMK Carbon is shipping soon to Massdrop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvdAny1HCci/
Note the R0 and R5 (especially 1.25u) keys ^-^
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif)
Post by: avid on Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:10:13
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:39:14
Small update for you guys.
GMK Carbon is shipping soon to Massdrop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvdAny1HCci/
Note the R0 and R5 (especially 1.25u) keys ^-^
Yippie ki yay.....give me my oranges
Post by: g_mr_p on Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:48:33
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 26 March 2019, 20:28:31
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 27 March 2019, 00:40:30
Can you do some umka mods with bone? :-*
Yeah i will shoot today some Umka (full beige) photos.
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 27 March 2019, 07:34:10
While at it, any chance of umka + beezarre????Can you do some umka mods with bone? :-*
Yeah i will shoot today some Umka (full beige) photos.
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 27 March 2019, 09:04:54
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:02:05
Can you do some umka mods with bone? :-*
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7899/46756748604_346b21bba4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eeJyo1)Profile side view (https://flic.kr/p/2eeJyo1) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7805/40513957593_6117691601_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24J5C7e)Cadet Umka 1 (https://flic.kr/p/24J5C7e) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7820/46564808845_af0361b4db_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dWLPnP)Cadet Umka 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2dWLPnP) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:16:14
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:56:19
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:57:00
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/33603794308_b9bcb4ada5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TcseiW)Beezarre 1 (https://flic.kr/p/TcseiW) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/40514329813_4e42c78d01_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24J7wKP)Beezarre novelty (https://flic.kr/p/24J7wKP) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/33603798718_634b81fc3d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TcsfBY)Beezarre 2 (https://flic.kr/p/TcsfBY) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 27 March 2019, 13:21:29
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This is really beezarre but i quite like it
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/33603794308_b9bcb4ada5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TcseiW)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/40514329813_4e42c78d01_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24J7wKP)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/33603798718_634b81fc3d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TcsfBY)Beezarre 2 (https://flic.kr/p/TcsfBY) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
I love it, will pair very well with and blue mods from GMK SC too. Eagerly waiting for this since day 1 to play mix and match.
Long live the Orange.
PS: Thanks for the efforts on renders and organizing the GB
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 27 March 2019, 13:23:46
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This is really beezarre but i quite like it
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/33603794308_b9bcb4ada5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TcseiW)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/40514329813_4e42c78d01_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24J7wKP)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/33603798718_634b81fc3d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TcsfBY)Beezarre 2 (https://flic.kr/p/TcsfBY) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Damnit, now I NEED that.
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:23:16
Holy shet....🤤🤤Cadet Umka 1 (https://flic.kr/p/24J5C7e) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf FlickrShow ImageProfile side view (https://flic.kr/p/2eeJyo1) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf FlickrShow ImageCan you do some umka mods with bone? :-*
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7899/46756748604_346b21bba4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eeJyo1)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7805/40513957593_6117691601_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24J5C7e)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7820/46564808845_af0361b4db_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dWLPnP)Cadet Umka 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2dWLPnP) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:37:28
Here you are ;)While at it, any chance of umka + beezarre????Can you do some umka mods with bone? :-*
Yeah i will shoot today some Umka (full beige) photos.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/40514895353_89551de576_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24JaqSv)Honeymilk (Umka + Beezarre) 2 (https://flic.kr/p/24JaqSv) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
I am done for today with photos. My workroom and my amateur photo studio is a mess right now.
Post by: fireworm on Wed, 27 March 2019, 17:14:02
Here you are ;)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/40514895353_89551de576_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24JaqSv)Honeymilk (Umka + Beezarre) 2 (https://flic.kr/p/24JaqSv) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
I am done for today with photos. My workroom and my amateur photo studio is a mess right now.
Now do Beezarre w/ Yuri Mods!
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 27 March 2019, 17:28:01
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 27 March 2019, 17:38:04
How about some umka with bone :thumb:
You probably mean reverse Bone, because i've done photos with Umka and Bone before :)) Reverse Bone would be Umka with Boneyard alphas.
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 27 March 2019, 17:51:38
Haha yea that's exactly what I meant. Sorry should've been more clear. Umka mods + Boneyard alphas and Umka mods + Blue Cadet alphas were my ultimate plan :).
You probably mean reverse Bone, because i've done photos with Umka and Bone before :)) Reverse Bone would be Umka with Boneyard alphas.
Post by: silversung on Wed, 27 March 2019, 19:08:18
Cadet Umka 1 (https://flic.kr/p/24J5C7e) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf FlickrShow ImageProfile side view (https://flic.kr/p/2eeJyo1) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf FlickrShow ImageCan you do some umka mods with bone? :-*
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7899/46756748604_346b21bba4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eeJyo1)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7805/40513957593_6117691601_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24J5C7e)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7820/46564808845_af0361b4db_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dWLPnP)Cadet Umka 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2dWLPnP) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
I AM HAPP. UMKA all the way!!!
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 28 March 2019, 06:42:52
Post by: nasp on Thu, 28 March 2019, 14:26:48
Post by: Acereconkeys on Thu, 28 March 2019, 14:31:01
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 28 March 2019, 14:58:06
Looking forward to to seeing photos of reverse bone today!
Haha yea that's exactly what I meant. Sorry should've been more clear. Umka mods + Boneyard alphas and Umka mods + Blue Cadet alphas were my ultimate plan :).
You probably mean reverse Bone, because i've done photos with Umka and Bone before :)) Reverse Bone would be Umka with Boneyard alphas.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7803/40522012373_1f7c4b909d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24JMUvK)Reverse Bone 1 (https://flic.kr/p/24JMUvK) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7842/47487933021_687213e52c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fmm52T)Reverse Bone 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2fmm52T) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 28 March 2019, 17:58:15
Post by: silversung on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:25:25
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 29 March 2019, 01:10:11
Gorgeous! Too bad I could only afford base kit at the time, these sets all look amazing. How do you like typing on R0/R5 so far?
No difference for me in typing with R5 compared to R4. Also i typed on R5 before. I got BSP Desko set for example and it has R5.
Tho R5 is very comfortable if you use bottom row without moving your hand. Say you can better activate bottom row keys while you stay on the homing row.
I will install the new Carbon set on my 75% keyboard this weekend. The R0 keys look already gorgeous.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 29 March 2019, 13:26:29
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7921/32552180447_7d7ae7db12_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RAwr9t)Carbon Novelty (https://flic.kr/p/RAwr9t) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7806/47494279331_1e8dfbeec9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fmUAz2)Carbon (https://flic.kr/p/2fmUAz2) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/32552185347_08c0864107_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RAwsAX)Carbon profile side view 1 (https://flic.kr/p/RAwsAX) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/40528221663_e77add9cfe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24KkJjt)Carbon profile side view 2 (https://flic.kr/p/24KkJjt) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: nasp on Fri, 29 March 2019, 13:30:52
Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 29 March 2019, 14:31:51
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R0 and R5 at its best. It is godlike on keyboards with steep angle like Duck Octagon with its 11 degree.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7921/32552180447_7d7ae7db12_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RAwr9t)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7806/47494279331_1e8dfbeec9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fmUAz2)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/32552185347_08c0864107_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RAwsAX)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/40528221663_e77add9cfe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24KkJjt)Carbon profile side view 2 (https://flic.kr/p/24KkJjt) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
R5 looks so nice.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 29 March 2019, 21:51:07
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 30 March 2019, 13:40:08
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 30 March 2019, 17:35:25
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7802/33625485298_b5ca2dded3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tenphw)Rolling Bones 1 (https://flic.kr/p/Tenphw) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7857/47449414442_5e054393f2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fhWDNs)Rolling Bones 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2fhWDNs) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7874/46778537484_553a43b727_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2egEesm)Rolling Bones 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2egEesm) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7867/33625487368_e64fbf43d0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TenpUd)Rolling Bones 4 (https://flic.kr/p/TenpUd) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7910/40536211753_fa71fbf1da_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24L3FuD)Rolling Bones 5 (https://flic.kr/p/24L3FuD) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
oof, shipping soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
shipping soon already? damn boy that was quickk
The sets start to ship in a few weeks. So its soon. Just little bit patience ;)
Edit: made new photos because of wrong arrow position. It was late night... :))
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 30 March 2019, 18:00:53
Post by: rondg on Mon, 08 April 2019, 16:44:45
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:02:29
So I guess shipping has started... ;D
Indeed. Just checked some comments on MD and some people say they got shipping notification. I am glad shipping started on time.
Can't wait to see all the builds and combinations people will come up with ;D
Post by: rondg on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:09:07
So I guess shipping has started... ;D
Indeed. Just checked some comments on MD and some people say they got shipping notification. I am glad shipping started on time.
Can't wait to see all the builds and combinations people will come up with ;D
Hmmm... Combinations... This got me thinking, will this look good with GMK Nines? One way to find out!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:20:38
So I guess shipping has started... ;D
Indeed. Just checked some comments on MD and some people say they got shipping notification. I am glad shipping started on time.
Can't wait to see all the builds and combinations people will come up with ;D
Hmmm... Combinations... This got me thinking, will this look good with GMK Nines? One way to find out!
That might work depending on the mix. But it would not be the perfect match due the different color tonalities (gray and beige colors are different). For GMK Nines i think a better set to mix with would be GMK Skidata - especially color kit (orange alphas).
Post by: rondg on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:23:36
So I guess shipping has started... ;D
Indeed. Just checked some comments on MD and some people say they got shipping notification. I am glad shipping started on time.
Can't wait to see all the builds and combinations people will come up with ;D
Hmmm... Combinations... This got me thinking, will this look good with GMK Nines? One way to find out!
That might work depending on the mix. But it would not be the perfect match due the different color tonalities (gray and beige colors are different). For GMK Nines i think a better set to mix with would be GMK Skidata - especially color kit (orange alphas).
I get that, I know that they are different but that's what I was curious about. Will the subtle differences look good? I think it's gonna be a nice combination.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:30:27
So I guess shipping has started... ;D
Indeed. Just checked some comments on MD and some people say they got shipping notification. I am glad shipping started on time.
Can't wait to see all the builds and combinations people will come up with ;D
Hmmm... Combinations... This got me thinking, will this look good with GMK Nines? One way to find out!
That might work depending on the mix. But it would not be the perfect match due the different color tonalities (gray and beige colors are different). For GMK Nines i think a better set to mix with would be GMK Skidata - especially color kit (orange alphas).
I get that, I know that they are different but that's what I was curious about. Will the subtle differences look good? I think it's gonna be a nice combination.
Not sure about if its going to look good but i would like to see bone modifiers with nines alphas or vice versa (boneyard with nines mods). Tho the beauty of the mono colored set gets lost.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:36:52
Post by: rondg on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:47:54
So I guess shipping has started... ;D
Indeed. Just checked some comments on MD and some people say they got shipping notification. I am glad shipping started on time.
Can't wait to see all the builds and combinations people will come up with ;D
Hmmm... Combinations... This got me thinking, will this look good with GMK Nines? One way to find out!
That might work depending on the mix. But it would not be the perfect match due the different color tonalities (gray and beige colors are different). For GMK Nines i think a better set to mix with would be GMK Skidata - especially color kit (orange alphas).
I get that, I know that they are different but that's what I was curious about. Will the subtle differences look good? I think it's gonna be a nice combination.
Not sure about if its going to look good but i would like to see bone modifiers with nines alphas or vice versa (boneyard with nines mods). Tho the beauty of the mono colored set gets lost.
This is what I'm planning to do. ;D
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 09 April 2019, 12:10:02
Post by: nasp on Tue, 09 April 2019, 14:03:59
Those who ordered Carbon Cadet kit, might have been notified by MD about the delay. At this point you should not worry. As you probably know, i got GMK Carbon R2 samples earlier and i discovered an issue with one key in Cadet kit. That specific key gets a replacement and afaik the replacement were already shipped to MD. So there is a slight delay. I personally don't know if it will cause delays for other people, who did not ordered Carbon Cadet. So please don't quote me on that. Tho it seems like some people got their shipping notifications.
What exactly was the issue? Just curious.
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 09 April 2019, 14:17:18
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 09 April 2019, 14:34:44
Those who ordered Carbon Cadet kit, might have been notified by MD about the delay. At this point you should not worry. As you probably know, i got GMK Carbon R2 samples earlier and i discovered an issue with one key in Cadet kit. That specific key gets a replacement and afaik the replacement were already shipped to MD. So there is a slight delay. I personally don't know if it will cause delays for other people, who did not ordered Carbon Cadet. So please don't quote me on that. Tho it seems like some people got their shipping notifications.
What exactly was the issue? Just curious.
Scooped J arrow was not up to GMK standards.
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 09 April 2019, 22:34:16
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 21:01:59
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 11 April 2019, 22:25:37
Post by: bengine on Thu, 11 April 2019, 22:28:11
Got my set yesterday, pretty pleased. I'm really glad that R0/R5 were used, I like them quite a bit. Only thing I regret is only buying the base set, really should have picked up some novelties since this is definitely going to be my main set for a while.Then you should monitor MD’s update.
Knowing them, there should be extras for next Keycap Recap (in June, maybe?)
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 12 April 2019, 16:49:54
Post by: GigaFlop on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:01:28
Got my set yesterday, pretty pleased. I'm really glad that R0/R5 were used, I like them quite a bit. Only thing I regret is only buying the base set, really should have picked up some novelties since this is definitely going to be my main set for a while.Then you should monitor MD’s update.
Knowing them, there should be extras for next Keycap Recap (in June, maybe?)
There'll only be one of each kit available in the next few ReCaps to come ;)
Post by: mimalik on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:13:28
Now that this has almost concluded, any plans for SA Carbon R3 in near future???
Post by: Oni74 on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:33:56
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 13 April 2019, 13:27:33
Hey t0mb3ry,
Now that this has almost concluded, any plans for SA Carbon R3 in near future???
2020 maybe.
Delivered yesterday. Loving the r0 and r5 on my norbatouch.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190413/e013ff404c239f87ebf9eb74405eabaf.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190413/a45b5a0e705f1659885ebdbd9aeee8fb.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190413/30b15f12c722fb1e31dd580f7cde9159.jpg)
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
glad people do appreciate full cherry profile :thumb:
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 16 April 2019, 10:56:36
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 16 April 2019, 14:31:17
Post by: g_mr_p on Tue, 16 April 2019, 22:18:01
[attach=1]
Post by: Kawamashi on Wed, 17 April 2019, 10:37:47
(https://i.imgur.com/cqwETzA.jpg)
For me, it's a big step towards endgame. Time for cables, I guess…
Btw, I wish I bought the salty kit. If someone in EU wants to sell it or a part of it (I need a R1 or R0 orange on grey or the opposite), PM me !
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 17 April 2019, 11:19:25
T0mb3ry, this run is terrific ! Thank you so much !!!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cqwETzA.jpg)
For me, it's a big step towards endgame. Time for cables, I guess…
Btw, I wish I bought the salty kit. If someone in EU wants to sell it or a part of it (I need a R1 or R0 orange on grey or the opposite), PM me !
IMO you should not change the cable. Your build is great as it is. I love it. Anyway i appreciate you like the end result and thanks for the kind words. ;)
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 18 April 2019, 17:12:24
(https://i.imgur.com/Tf1koGX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OmQusja.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FgNYcGt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5cr4F8f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZTkZUJ5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GO6d8zQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TiVakCy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/itGDTAH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MnziXQ7.jpg?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/go4AtPv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A8Y8KSb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5vuDece.jpg)
Post by: avid on Thu, 18 April 2019, 18:19:01
Post by: dk4one on Thu, 18 April 2019, 19:20:10
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 18 April 2019, 23:21:25
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 18 April 2019, 23:23:50
Just got my set today. The custom beige color is just lovely. Officially my top 3 GMK sets (Space Cadet, Red Samurai and Bone). Very nice!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Tf1koGX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmQusja.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FgNYcGt.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5cr4F8f.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZTkZUJ5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GO6d8zQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TiVakCy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/itGDTAH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MnziXQ7.jpg?2)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/go4AtPv.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/A8Y8KSb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5vuDece.jpg)
that no 1 looks real nice
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 19 April 2019, 17:45:23
(https://i.imgur.com/hRVijJR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0SaRdWx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/I83gAki.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/t1zFAfO.jpg)
Post by: metalliccharles on Fri, 19 April 2019, 18:30:55
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 20 April 2019, 00:05:50
Cross-posting -- but here's Carbon R2 Bone and Boneyard Alphas -- looks amazing. Photos appear a bit darker than how it looks IRL due to the en face lighting -- I think the second photo from the side shows the color much more accurately. Cheers!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hRVijJR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0SaRdWx.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I83gAki.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/t1zFAfO.jpg)
Wow these are some SICK pictures, here are some more:
(https://i.imgur.com/femC4Iq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JJ9RHyI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9CDL0pf.jpg)
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 21 April 2019, 12:54:58
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 21 April 2019, 12:56:38
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/exleUX2.jpg)
Amazing!!!!
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 21 April 2019, 12:57:42
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/exleUX2.jpg)
Endless possibilities with the colorway. Amazing creativity right there!
Post by: hyperdolch on Mon, 22 April 2019, 02:39:24
https://imgur.com/a/mhLi5Z4
(https://imgur.com/Cj8WRFL)
(https://imgur.com/uket6hj)
Post by: dorf on Mon, 22 April 2019, 03:01:24
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 22 April 2019, 03:03:02
Terminal Salty cap was change like this?
https://imgur.com/a/mhLi5Z4Show Image(https://imgur.com/Cj8WRFL)Show Image(https://imgur.com/uket6hj)
oh wow, good catch
i wouldn't have seen that
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 22 April 2019, 03:20:04
Terminal Salty cap was change like this?
https://imgur.com/a/mhLi5Z4Show Image(https://imgur.com/Cj8WRFL)Show Image(https://imgur.com/uket6hj)
oh wow, good catch
i wouldn't have seen that
I oversaw this too.
I've reported this to GMK...
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 22 April 2019, 04:24:15
Before GMK Carbon R2 went into production, GMK have send me their production renders for approval. The following picture displays such render. Keep in mind i've cropped out the color codes in this render.
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As you can see i oversaw the flipped color for Terminal salty kit and unfortunately i gave this render approval for production. So its not GMKs miss at this point...
In this case if you want the exact salty kit for Terminal as displayed in renders on the drop page, then please contact MD support (of course if you bought Salty kit directly from Massdrop). We'll see then how to solve this issue.
Post by: hyperdolch on Mon, 22 April 2019, 05:27:29
Ok it is my bad.
Before GMK Carbon R2 went into production, GMK have send me their production renders for approval. The following picture displays such render. Keep in mind i've cropped out the color codes in this render.
(Attachment Link)
As you can see i oversaw the flipped color for Terminal salty kit and unfortunately i gave this render approval for production. So its not GMKs miss at this point...
In this case if you want the exact salty kit for Terminal as displayed in renders on the drop page, then please contact MD support (of course if you bought Salty kit directly from Massdrop). We'll see then how to solve this issue.
OK.. I contacted MD just ago.
Let's wait.
Post by: Side7X on Mon, 22 April 2019, 09:44:58
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Loving the R0 & R5
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Post by: mimalik on Mon, 22 April 2019, 10:44:17
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 23 April 2019, 00:07:13
(https://i.imgur.com/326S9ZV.jpg)
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 23 April 2019, 21:20:34
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 23 April 2019, 21:48:33
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 23 April 2019, 22:19:24
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 22:23:48
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) Except for Backspace, all ok. R0 n R5 keys r amazing, cant believe they weren’t used in past (not designed in sets hence no molds) hate that they r not being used now that they r available. (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
That looks amazing
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 22:57:29
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 23 April 2019, 23:27:03
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 24 April 2019, 00:51:51
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) Except for Backspace, all ok. R0 n R5 keys r amazing, cant believe they weren’t used in past (not designed in sets hence no molds) hate that they r not being used now that they r available. (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)Agreed. R5 needs to be a staple. I'm not sure I'm keen on R0, but it'd work as an add-on kit.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 24 April 2019, 10:14:44
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ePL05nRDzwCXe/giphy.gif)
Come to dark side, we got full cherry profile :))
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 24 April 2019, 17:01:03
I really appreciate people enjoy R0 and R5. I will definitely feature full cherry profile in my future projects. ^-^Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/ePL05nRDzwCXe/giphy.gif)
Come to dark side, we got full cherry profile :))
where's your secret stash of beezarre alphas, sir?
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 24 April 2019, 17:39:36
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 24 April 2019, 17:48:28
Anyone else noticed umka Backspace key doesn’t completely goes down? It remains slightly up and doesn’t completely fit into the switch stem. If I try to press any further it may damage the switch, see the lift in umka vs sc.
My Umka Backspace sits just fine on my Canoe which has GMK screw in stabs and Gateron switches. Keep in mind Leopold is using authentical Cherry stabs (say they are not original Cherry stabs - where GMK is using original cherry tooling for their stabs) and there are always different tolerances. GMKs tooling for keycaps is also original Cherry and it was made for the original Cherry switches and stabs. By original Cherry switches i mean of course the vintage Cherry switches. I know some issues of Cherry profile with Gateron switches for example. Remember also the Box Switches dilemma before. Unfortunately there are no industry standards for it. Anyway this is only one of the possible reasons which might cause that. And i have the same exact backspace as you, because the keycap production is done fully automated at GMK, which means every keycap does not differ from another. Especially if we consider such small production scale like for Umka. You got one of the 50 existing Umkas in the world.
I really appreciate people enjoy R0 and R5. I will definitely feature full cherry profile in my future projects. ^-^Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/ePL05nRDzwCXe/giphy.gif)
Come to dark side, we got full cherry profile :))
where's your secret stash of beezarre alphas, sir?
Under my pillow.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BZlNhp9L5WINi/giphy.gif)
:))
I quite like R5 on a high angle board. Had them on my keycult and I think they go so well together.
Just like you, i also appreciate them most on my Duck Octagon with its 11 degree angle.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 25 April 2019, 18:58:17
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 26 April 2019, 14:24:04
Are there any news if the terminal salty key will be replaced? All I am offered is a 5 bucks discount and I very much still want the original green key even if they proposed to refund the whole kit in full.
If Massdrop offers you 5$ discount then unfortunately it seems like there will be no replacements.
Another opportunity to get the green Terminal salty key would be next drop.
Post by: fireworm on Fri, 26 April 2019, 15:48:40
Umka Mods just for the Enter key, Bone Icon Ext, Bone Alphas, Salty, Warning Signs, Spacebars and some Bone Base too. :cool:
Post by: rondg on Fri, 26 April 2019, 18:32:18
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bfpWDYM.jpg)
Umka Mods just for the Enter key, Bone Icon Ext, Bone Alphas, Salty, Warning Signs, Spacebars and some Bone Base too. :cool:
This looks nice!
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 27 April 2019, 09:16:59
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 01 May 2019, 10:00:12
GMK Bone, Umka Mods, Novelties and Boneyard Alphas.
(https://i.imgur.com/PESoqTw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hBArMkV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pK2LcE2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pBSBuEw.jpg)
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 01 May 2019, 18:18:12
Some shots with Bone. Keycult No.2/Stainless Steel and TGR-910 SE.
GMK Bone, Umka Mods, Novelties and Boneyard Alphas.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PESoqTw.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hBArMkV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pK2LcE2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pBSBuEw.jpg)
Very nice.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 01 May 2019, 23:43:19
Some shots with Bone. Keycult No.2/Stainless Steel and TGR-910 SE.
GMK Bone, Umka Mods, Novelties and Boneyard Alphas.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PESoqTw.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hBArMkV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pK2LcE2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pBSBuEw.jpg)
That looks amazing man, good job. I'm going to have to hunt bone/umka/boneyard down on a recap and hope I get lucky.
Post by: rondg on Sat, 04 May 2019, 05:52:31
(https://i.imgur.com/uRho5x4.jpg)
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 05 May 2019, 08:57:09
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 08 May 2019, 09:07:00
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 08 May 2019, 13:18:17
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Open a tkt with MD, good chance they ll ship from their reserves.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 08 May 2019, 13:53:17
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Oooff. You should contact MD support asap. I never experienced lost shipping but damn i can feel you if you waited so long for it.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 09 May 2019, 13:07:19
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 19 May 2019, 23:54:34
Post by: spakecdk on Mon, 20 May 2019, 04:35:01
Are there any news if the terminal salty key will be replaced? All I am offered is a 5 bucks discount and I very much still want the original green key even if they proposed to refund the whole kit in full.
If Massdrop offers you 5$ discount then unfortunately it seems like there will be no replacements.
Another opportunity to get the green Terminal salty key would be next drop.
Hopefully you are implying this will drop again. Maybe by then massdrop sets up their eu warehouse.
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 20 May 2019, 09:03:34
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Oooff. You should contact MD support asap. I never experienced lost shipping but damn i can feel you if you waited so long for it.
Edit: massdrop was kind enough to send me a new set where he made sure the package was lost
thanks for the support guys
KMK Labs.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 20 May 2019, 12:12:12
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Oooff. You should contact MD support asap. I never experienced lost shipping but damn i can feel you if you waited so long for it.
Edit: massdrop was kind enough to send me a new set where he made sure the package was lost
thanks for the support guys
KMK Labs.
I am glad your issue was resolved ;)
Hopefully you are implying this will drop again. Maybe by then massdrop sets up their eu warehouse.
It will definitely drop again but not any time soon and not with the same kits and row constellation. I have to think about how to fit all those sets in one drop because otherwise it will require to many drop spots.
Post by: cyyz on Mon, 20 May 2019, 12:19:42
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Oooff. You should contact MD support asap. I never experienced lost shipping but damn i can feel you if you waited so long for it.
Edit: massdrop was kind enough to send me a new set where he made sure the package was lost
thanks for the support guys
KMK Labs.
I am glad your issue was resolved ;)Hopefully you are implying this will drop again. Maybe by then massdrop sets up their eu warehouse.
It will definitely drop again but not any time soon and not with the same kits and row constellation. I have to think about how to fit all those sets in one drop because otherwise it will require to many drop spots.
I hope SA carbon runs before another GMK run. Imo this set looks way better on SA, especially the warning signs and the bones kits.
Post by: rondg on Mon, 20 May 2019, 18:37:25
It will definitely drop again but not any time soon and not with the same kits and row constellation. I have to think about how to fit all those sets in one drop because otherwise it will require to many drop spots.
Does that mean that there will be no more umka mods? :(
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 21 May 2019, 00:02:18
It will definitely drop again but not any time soon and not with the same kits and row constellation. I have to think about how to fit all those sets in one drop because otherwise it will require to many drop spots.
Does that mean that there will be no more umka mods? :(
No. There will be no Umka mods anymore but a full base kit (Umka with alphas).
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 21 May 2019, 01:27:48
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:19:53
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 23 May 2019, 12:46:45
Thats it I am out of GMK now(https://media.giphy.com/media/I5xVnGJRHZZf2/giphy.gif)
:))
Post by: spakecdk on Sat, 25 May 2019, 06:28:00
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Oooff. You should contact MD support asap. I never experienced lost shipping but damn i can feel you if you waited so long for it.
Edit: massdrop was kind enough to send me a new set where he made sure the package was lost
thanks for the support guys
KMK Labs.
I am glad your issue was resolved ;)Hopefully you are implying this will drop again. Maybe by then massdrop sets up their eu warehouse.
It will definitely drop again but not any time soon and not with the same kits and row constellation. I have to think about how to fit all those sets in one drop because otherwise it will require to many drop spots.
As long as there will be half life lambdas and the chemical symbols, I'm down for many of each lol
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 28 May 2019, 16:25:59
IIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
the package containing my carbon was lost .... I can't believe it, I've been waiting for this set for 3 years :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
KMK Labs.
Oooff. You should contact MD support asap. I never experienced lost shipping but damn i can feel you if you waited so long for it.
Edit: massdrop was kind enough to send me a new set where he made sure the package was lost
thanks for the support guys
KMK Labs.
I am glad your issue was resolved ;)Hopefully you are implying this will drop again. Maybe by then massdrop sets up their eu warehouse.
It will definitely drop again but not any time soon and not with the same kits and row constellation. I have to think about how to fit all those sets in one drop because otherwise it will require to many drop spots.
As long as there will be half life lambdas and the chemical symbols, I'm down for many of each lol
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 28 May 2019, 16:35:37
IIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
I got the license to offer it only once in a year. Say i can repeat it every year but only in one GB.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 28 May 2019, 23:21:28
I stand correctedIIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
I got the license to offer it only once in a year. Say i can repeat it every year but only in one GB.
Post by: spakecdk on Mon, 03 June 2019, 06:23:19
IIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
I got the license to offer it only once in a year. Say i can repeat it every year but only in one GB.
That's a weird way to license. If there will be an SA before GMK, will you offer in R3 or only sculpted? Or did you mean by your previous post that both will run at the same time?
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 03 June 2019, 06:34:55
IIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
I got the license to offer it only once in a year. Say i can repeat it every year but only in one GB.
That's a weird way to license. If there will be an SA before GMK, will you offer in R3 or only sculpted? Or did you mean by your previous post that both will run at the same time?
2016 - SA Carbon
2017 - GMK Carbon
2018 - SA Carbon R2
2019 - GMK Carbon R2
2020 -
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 03 June 2019, 08:55:47
2020 - SP DCS ALPS CarbonIIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
I got the license to offer it only once in a year. Say i can repeat it every year but only in one GB.
That's a weird way to license. If there will be an SA before GMK, will you offer in R3 or only sculpted? Or did you mean by your previous post that both will run at the same time?
2016 - SA Carbon
2017 - GMK Carbon
2018 - SA Carbon R2
2019 - GMK Carbon R2
2020 -
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Post by: eksuen on Tue, 04 June 2019, 00:55:43
2020 - SP DCS ALPS CarbonIIRC they only got the license to use the half life lambda for a year or so. Don’t know if SA Carbon will be released in time to fit into that window.
I got the license to offer it only once in a year. Say i can repeat it every year but only in one GB.
That's a weird way to license. If there will be an SA before GMK, will you offer in R3 or only sculpted? Or did you mean by your previous post that both will run at the same time?
2016 - SA Carbon
2017 - GMK Carbon
2018 - SA Carbon R2
2019 - GMK Carbon R2
2020 -
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I'd buy that. It was just earlier today that I was musing about the possibility of a DCS GB in the near future. I wonder how well it'd be received. Perhaps the right colorway would be enough to tip it towards success.
Post by: fer.real on Tue, 04 June 2019, 06:29:25
2020 - SP DCS ALPS Carbon
+1. That would be a must have for me.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 04 June 2019, 10:21:28
Post by: climbing512 on Tue, 04 June 2019, 16:57:34
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).Like the Cyberdeck kit in the last Laser drop from MiTo? (was a very popular option for a full kit using a different profile to the rest of the sets).
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 04 June 2019, 18:26:02
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).Like the Cyberdeck kit in the last Laser drop from MiTo? (was a very popular option for a full kit using a different profile to the rest of the sets).
I think more like the Minuteman kit (DSA) in the MT3 Godspeed drop, plus one even bigger change: T0mb3ry's DSA Carbon kit would fit on Alps switches rather than Cherry MX.
Post by: eksuen on Sun, 09 June 2019, 01:56:27
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).
Oooh, I like this.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:27:08
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).
Just remembered this. Is this still planned for a DCS Alps Carbon set if the Yuri set goes over well? Plus, I GOT MY BEEZARR set from the ZF extras! WOOHOO
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:43:07
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).
Just remembered this. Is this still planned for a DCS Alps Carbon set if the Yuri set goes over well? Plus, I GOT MY BEEZARR set from the ZF extras! WOOHOO
If DCS ALPS Yuri goes well when i will definitely make also Carbon one. And probably and hopefully some designers will do the same with their sets. IMHO ALPS need some colors and variety.
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:45:30
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).
Just remembered this. Is this still planned for a DCS Alps Carbon set if the Yuri set goes over well? Plus, I GOT MY BEEZARR set from the ZF extras! WOOHOO
If DCS ALPS Yuri goes well when i will definitely make also Carbon one. And probably and hopefully some designers will do the same with their sets. IMHO ALPS need some colors and variety.
👀
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 07 August 2019, 19:47:09
I'll try to include in next SP SA Carbon drop a single DCS Alps Carbon kit. Since it will be a single kit, it will probably have typical GMK key constellation (large base set).
Just remembered this. Is this still planned for a DCS Alps Carbon set if the Yuri set goes over well? Plus, I GOT MY BEEZARR set from the ZF extras! WOOHOO
If DCS ALPS Yuri goes well when i will definitely make also Carbon one. And probably and hopefully some designers will do the same with their sets. IMHO ALPS need some colors and variety.
I'm excited for DCS Alps Yuri.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 08 August 2019, 18:10:22
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Post by: monkeycap198 on Thu, 08 August 2019, 23:48:33
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BEEEEEZARRE!
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Looks nice irl
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 09 August 2019, 00:47:30
BEEEEEZARRE!GZ! Beezarre is actually pretty rare if you think about that only 54 kits were made. I was asked few times for some Beezarre extras - but I don't have any.
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I hope you enjoy it.
Post by: thornkin on Fri, 09 August 2019, 02:00:26
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 19 August 2019, 16:27:00
https://drop.com/buy/capatoa-keycap-explosion
Keep in mind recap drops are selling only left others (its not a regular drop) and its first come first serve with random pick. Say you have to be fast and lucky to get something.
Post by: thornkin on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:01:24
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:34:21
Post by: thelaughingman on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:34:57
Any idea how limited this limited sale will be?
normally these much sort after kits would go out in less than a minute LOL
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 20 August 2019, 02:40:48
Any idea how limited this limited sale will be?Take following with a grain of salt. Its approximate and probable values.
In the following table you see the latest stand from GMK Carbon R2. You have to look for kits which did not made it to MOQ and the difference which was needed to hit the MOQ. That difference is basically the possible available quantity of particular kit. Plus the returned/canceled order - which is unknown number.
For example Bone base kit is missing 108 kits to hit its MOQ - which means that probably there will be more than 100 Bone base kits available. Umka on the other hand hit its MOQ and the only chance it gets available is, if someone returned or canceled their order. But i do think that number would be a single digit.
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set/FP/thlX0KGvSYSd8bhs9ftQ_community%20(1).jpg)
Anyway the sought after kits will be sold out very quickly. But i still think there is a good chance to snag some kits for everyone who got GMK Carbon. Especially kits like the Arrows kit which was overseen by most people.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 20 August 2019, 10:50:22
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 20 August 2019, 13:36:28
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/JdM6DTfDSOnp2NSwpJoi_GMKcarbonStatus181207.PNG)
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:43:59
They also might only put out a subset of what they have. More than 1 recap appeared to have SA carbon rolling bones but it was never more than 1-2 sets. I got SA orange alphas off a recap, can't complain.
We used to set the limit at 1 or 2 below our inventory count as a contingency plan (e.g. inventory count incorrect, orders lost in transit, etc.). However, that meant that we'd have to put in the effort to relist it for the next Re-Cap. Setting up each Re-Cap takes a lot of time and effort as it involves a lot of manual work. The problematic orders were rare, so to make things easier this time, we've listed our entire inventory of the available kits.
Post by: jimboytacos on Thu, 22 August 2019, 19:31:51
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 23 August 2019, 00:26:57
Why is the modifiers Umka kit just as expensive as a full base kit? -_-
Only 50 were made.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 23 August 2019, 03:32:44
Why is the modifiers Umka kit just as expensive as a full base kit? -_-
Only 50 were made.
Exactly.
Why is the modifiers Umka kit just as expensive as a full base kit? -_-
As DukeEsquire already mentioned only 50 Umka kits were made which made it this expensive. If more Umkas were sold the less Expenisve it could get (down to $100 per kit). This is how it works.
Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 23 August 2019, 05:44:56
Post by: biothermal on Fri, 23 August 2019, 07:25:52
I tried to order "Rolling Bones", but Drop say the order "ran into a problem". Any reason? (I ordered right when the Recap opened)
Better to ask someone at Drop if you're that concerned, but more than likely they sold out while you were in the process of ordering.
Post by: dallman5 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:02:28
For example Bone base kit is missing 108 kits to hit its MOQ - which means that probably there will be more than 100 Bone base kits available.
I tried to checking out with the Bone base kit about 3 minutes after the drop opened yesterday and it was telling me they were out of stock already :feelsbadman:
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:29:21
For example Bone base kit is missing 108 kits to hit its MOQ - which means that probably there will be more than 100 Bone base kits available.
I tried to checking out with the Bone base kit about 3 minutes after the drop opened yesterday and it was telling me they were out of stock already :feelsbadman:
This negative buying experience is one of the reasons why people should get into original drops.
Joining original drops gives you:
- positive buying experience because you'll get your items and you don't compete with other people for left others
- possible price reduction (the more people join the cheaper it gets). Unfortunately GMK Carbon R2 did not fired off - to snowball into lesser pricing ranges. :feelsbadman:
Thinking about getting something on recap later has only downsides as you can see. Depending on how sought after a kit is - its harder to obtain and its more expensive than in the original drop (which is a right thing imo).
Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 23 August 2019, 10:21:02
I tried to order "Rolling Bones", but Drop say the order "ran into a problem". Any reason? (I ordered right when the Recap opened)
Better to ask someone at Drop if you're that concerned, but more than likely they sold out while you were in the process of ordering.
Yeh, I emailed them recently but they haven't replied yet. I'll see what happens.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 23 August 2019, 17:51:34
I tried to order "Rolling Bones", but Drop say the order "ran into a problem". Any reason? (I ordered right when the Recap opened)
Better to ask someone at Drop if you're that concerned, but more than likely they sold out while you were in the process of ordering.
Yeh, I emailed them recently but they haven't replied yet. I'll see what happens.
Assuming you couldn't check out, then you didn't get it. It sold out while in your cart.
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 27 August 2019, 12:55:21
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Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 17 March 2021, 01:30:24
pls bring back carbon with full cherry 012345 rowAgreed. Full Cherry rows don’t get enough love.
Post by: thornkin on Wed, 17 March 2021, 15:11:03
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Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 17 March 2021, 16:39:42
In today's market it might do better than the first time.I think it would, yes, especially if there were fewer kits now that boneyard and Umka have had standalone runs.
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 28 June 2021, 10:51:14
Looking forward to R3 :)Its planned for 2022
Post by: nvh2092 on Mon, 28 June 2021, 11:08:40
Will you consider novelties for iso enter in carbon novelty kit?Looking forward to R3 :)Its planned for 2022
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 28 June 2021, 11:14:27
Will you consider novelties for iso enter in carbon novelty kit?I'll look into it, but i do not promise there will be one.
Post by: nvh2092 on Mon, 28 June 2021, 11:40:05
Thanks for considering itWill you consider novelties for iso enter in carbon novelty kit?I'll look into it, but i do not promise there will be one.