[GB] GMK Carbon R2 (FINISHED)

[Cas]

Even if it there isnt round 3 i wont enter at this cost, love Carbon but it is too much, i will wait if someday there is a round 3

[clik_clak]

Even if it there isnt round 3 i wont enter at this cost, love Carbon but it is too much, i will wait if someday there is a round 3

Inflation tells me the prices aren't going to get any lower with future drops.

[HotRoderX]

Even if it there isnt round 3 i wont enter at this cost, love Carbon but it is too much

I felt the same way, I really really wanted carbon bad. Then I seen the price and sticker shock was just to much. I honestly think if numbers would have been posted during the IC. Then R0 and R5 would have gotten voted down pretty rapidly. I am assuming that's what is adding the bulk of the cost to this set. As others said it kinda makes it impossible to upgrade older carbon sets with R0 and R5 which could have driven down price. As it stands to get a ok complete set your looking at way north of 220 dollar's which is just insane for a keycap set for most people. I seen the argument, people pay more on mechmarket. Which is true but isn't. The average person buying on mech market has disposable income. There also looking for something unique. I think its why we don't see flippers because once there 4-5 of a given set on mech market prices drop like a rock.

[newbatthis]

If this had been without r0/r5 and i could grab bone mods it would've been an easy easy choice. Shame.

[mimalik]

Has anyone seen GMK drops prices lately?

GMK DMG - 169
GMK Terminal- 189 post production but  GB price was  159
GMK Taro - 155
GMK Metaverse - 160
GMK Chocolatier - 149
GMK Space Cadet - 149
GMK TA - 169

Why all the complains on pricing? A typical base set is running b/w 150-180, depending on drop. The extras are reasonably priced as well. Even if you participated in R1 like I did, there are plenty of other kits to go for extras which werent offered in R1. I understand if one doesnt like the color scheme or R0/5 profile, but all this noise about pricing is over kill. Also, prices are set by GMK and upward pricing is the trend, if you think in future it will be cheaper, then best of luck.

[Helldrop]

I think this R2 is an extension of the R1. I’m very satisfied with a wide variety of options. The reason why people feel the price is high is that they try to select too many options. They seem to confuse the options for base kit. Many will eventually regret not joining this GB.

[Jkush463]

too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that. 

[Cas]

For me, it is too much, I don’t care nothing on r0 and r5, good luck on the drop

[darthzero]

too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that.

Maybe, just maybe people don’t care about frackin r0/5 (yeah except you, tomb3ry and the 150 who voted for it). There is no benefit for “us” just the fear that more sets will incorporate those rows.

@mimalik: prices are set from gmk? Haha funneh joke mate 7/10 would laugh again. The vendors in cooperation with the set designer set the price. Including earnings for both parties (not so sure with md ^^). But except the people and vendors who ran a set (+GMK of course) nobody knows the pricing structure of GMK. Would be way to easy for creators to have this info publicly available including all the available molds (shots fired in direction of GMK^^)...
Also nice thing you only listed the sets that were high priced, what about white on black for 100$ or serika for 139$ just off the top of my head. Yes prices increased from GMK but not 40-50$ per set.

[mimalik]

too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that.

Maybe, just maybe people don’t care about frackin r0/5 (yeah except you, tomb3ry and the 150 who voted for it). There is no benefit for “us” just the fear that more sets will incorporate those rows.

@mimalik: prices are set from gmk? Haha funneh joke mate 7/10 would laugh again. The vendors in cooperation with the set designer set the price. Including earnings for both parties (not so sure with md ^^). But except the people and vendors who ran a set (+GMK of course) nobody knows the pricing structure of GMK. Would be way to easy for creators to have this info publicly available including all the available molds (shots fired in direction of GMK^^)...
Also nice thing you only listed the sets that were high priced, what about white on black for 100$ or serika for 139$ just off the top of my head. Yes prices increased from GMK but not 40-50$ per set.

This is a KB community effort, folks voted for R0/5 and wanted it, hence its there. This is a niche hobby which can be expansive, while I dont know the GMK pricing structure, WoB seems to be a one off now days. Prices always increase into the future thx to global monetary policies. And you are right folks may be making money in b/w as this is not a non-profit endeavor, but GMK is the one which sets the bottom line and everyone else just add on their %s. We all have invested comparatively ridiculous sums on keyboards and complaining about 15-20 $ difference on a drop from set from past is ridiculous. I just picked up pricing from currently running or near ended GMK drops. Please do list any other $100 gmk drops from 2018.

[T0mb3ry]

MOQ/Pricing sheet has been updated.

[superdoedoe]

Let's go Norde Kit! 

[Jkush463]

i'm not here to argue i'm just saying that's part of the price, if you don't care don't buy it? Ultimately not my problem if you're too broke for an expensive hobby. I'm not gonna fret over an extra 100-150$ for something i want esp when its a luxury like keyboards if you're worried about the money id find something else to do. Also you do know how when demand increases so do prices right, and GMK is FLOODED. 

[Cas]

As i said, good luck

[chuckdee]

too much? you do realize this benefits almost all gmk sets by producing new tooling such as r5 and what not if it happens right? thats part of the cost here and i dont think a lot of ppl realize that.

Maybe, just maybe people don’t care about frackin r0/5 (yeah except you, tomb3ry and the 150 who voted for it). There is no benefit for “us” just the fear that more sets will incorporate those rows.

@mimalik: prices are set from gmk? Haha funneh joke mate 7/10 would laugh again. The vendors in cooperation with the set designer set the price. Including earnings for both parties (not so sure with md ^^). But except the people and vendors who ran a set (+GMK of course) nobody knows the pricing structure of GMK. Would be way to easy for creators to have this info publicly available including all the available molds (shots fired in direction of GMK^^)...
Also nice thing you only listed the sets that were high priced, what about white on black for 100$ or serika for 139$ just off the top of my head. Yes prices increased from GMK but not 40-50$ per set.

GMK sets the base price, which is then increased based on the designer and runner getting something for their efforts.  Just like everything else.  I don't think that anyone can fault them for that, and most understand that the GMK prices influence the final price.  No comment on the prices of the other sets around now, however... he gave a pretty compelling list...

[T0mb3ry]

Daily update.

[mathiasn]

Daily update.

Weird numbers - when compared to the Massdrop statement "2.575 Sold" (top of the page near "11 DAYS LEFT").
When I sum that table up, I get something around 1.200 orders.
(And not even the main kit took the first hurdle (250).)

OK, I need the R0+R5 - but luckily I've stowed away a NORDEUK from round 1.5 

[Acereconkeys]

Daily update.

Weird numbers - when compared to the Massdrop statement "2.575 Sold" (top of the page near "11 DAYS LEFT").
When I sum that table up, I get something around 1.200 orders.
(And not even the main kit took the first hurdle (250).)

OK, I need the R0+R5 - but luckily I've stowed away a NORDEUK from round 1.5 

Massdrop is dumb they combine R1 with R2 sales.

[sevenseacat]

Massdrop's entire checkout/order-counting/price-drop-tracking system is totally horrible, and for no real reason -_- Just laziness....

[qq]

Following the total number of all kits ordered, Carbon is still a successful GB, but when looking at the sheet, most kits are barely halfway through their MOQs. I wonder what's wrong with this. Maybe people, who enjoy Carbon, are overly saturated with Carbon kits floating around the market. Or it is falling in the paradox of choice, and taking buyers forever to decide which one they need.

Hopefully, as there will be a few days left, the keyset would pick up when people are pushed to make up their mind. It will be very sad to see a nice kit such as Bone Base would fail miserably.

[sagadoi]

I hope everyone of the kits will get the moq, especially like bone base, cadet and rolling bones.
Cause I really like carbon, that is my belief rather than toy

[T0mb3ry]

Daily update.

[upas]

I really want that space kit to hit MOQ. If it doesn't, I don't think I'd really want the rest

[T0mb3ry]

I really want that space kit to hit MOQ. If it doesn't, I don't think I'd really want the rest

Please wait until the drop ends and don't worry. There will be some additional orders at the end as usual. After that we will get to know about which kits will be made and afaik you will be able to adjust or cancel your order. I hope everything will be fine

[mimalik]

Dang, both umka and bieezarre lost a few, cmon folks these are unicorns. Buy one for the team. Does anyone know if not at MOQ, how near the MOQ point a kit must be in order to be made? 40%, 50%, 80%? I have been waiting for the orange alphas since R1, and now that its up for grab.....

[T0mb3ry]

Dang, both umka and bieezarre lost a few, cmon folks these are unicorns. Buy one for the team. Does anyone know if not at MOQ, how near the MOQ point a kit must be in order to be made? 40%, 50%, 80%? I have been waiting for the orange alphas since R1, and now that its up for grab.....

Take my words with grain of salt.

Umka is just 10 kits away from hitting its moq. I do think it will be made anyway. By only 50 existing kits that will be real snowflake made of unicorn tears  )

[112227]

I'm unsure of how to order.

I really want the boneyard alphas and umka mods. If those don't reach MOQ I'd want bone base set. If that doesn't reach MOQ, I guess I'd take the regular base set.

How do I order what I want without missing an opportunity to buy my second or third choice? :S

[Wetherbee]

I recommend ordering what you want. Just assume that it will be made.

You are very likely to end up with a very rare keyset. When people look for Carbon sets on the aftermarket, these are going to be the rare coveted ones they wish they had paid groupbuy prices for. As a vintage profile user, R0-R5 are really something special. People don't seem to understand that - yet.

[phinix]

Just checking - this is Massdrop, so even if this is produced in Germany, if I order it in Europe, I will still need to pay tax + customs, as this will go to US first, then send back here? No EU proxy to avoid extra costs?

[mrpetrov]

Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!

[Oblotzky]

Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!

Base Kit covers HHKB fully.

[Anakey]

Just checking - this is Massdrop, so even if this is produced in Germany, if I order it in Europe, I will still need to pay tax + customs, as this will go to US first, then send back here? No EU proxy to avoid extra costs?

Correct as they would sell the sets to Massdrop with no VAT

[mrpetrov]

Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!

Base Kit covers HHKB fully.

Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).

[Oblotzky]

Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!

Base Kit covers HHKB fully.

Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).

Go to your transactions, there should be an option to edit your current order. Select the Bone Kit as the main purchase and Salty as an option to that

[mrpetrov]

Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!

Base Kit covers HHKB fully.

Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).

Go to your transactions, there should be an option to edit your current order. Select the Bone Kit as the main purchase and Salty as an option to that

Thanks, I appreciate the help - I was looking under my drops and hadn't seen any edit function. Bones ordered!

[T0mb3ry]

Pardon my ignorance, but which sets would I have to get to cover an HHKB layout? Many thanks!

Base Kit covers HHKB fully.

Thanks! I had previously just joined for the Salty kit through MD but now I'd like to add the bone base - do you know if I can do that without paying shipping twice (ie can I amend my original order to add bone base or do I have to submit a new order and double up on shipping costs?).

Go to your transactions, there should be an option to edit your current order. Select the Bone Kit as the main purchase and Salty as an option to that

Thanks, I appreciate the help - I was looking under my drops and hadn't seen any edit function. Bones ordered!

Very important. If you pay with Paypal you better delete your previous order and make an new one. Otherwise your order might be canceled at the end of the drop. This is a very well known Paypal "feature".

[T0mb3ry]

As usual daily update.

[mimalik]

Hurrah for Beezarre, one more. C'mon folks have you ever seen orange alphas on GMK? Also, there are no R5 keys for alphas except for numpad 0 & . which means they can be used with any other GMK set. And those who bought R1, you already have orange row 1 function keys, another win win.

Plz buy some more and get it over or near the line       

[silversung]

Can anyone tell me how MD ships their drops? I'm trying to break my drop into two packages, each under $200 to avoid unnecessary tax. Can I do that with my 1 account? Say if I bought Base Kit like tomorrow, and Umka Mods next week. Would MD ship them together in one bundle? Or would they ship them separately?

[Oblotzky]

Can anyone tell me how MD ships their drops? I'm trying to break my drop into two packages, each under $200 to avoid unnecessary tax. Can I do that with my 1 account? Say if I bought Base Kit like tomorrow, and Umka Mods next week. Would MD ship them together in one bundle? Or would they ship them separately?

They just need to be separate orders with shipping paid on each.

[silversung]

Can anyone tell me how MD ships their drops? I'm trying to break my drop into two packages, each under $200 to avoid unnecessary tax. Can I do that with my 1 account? Say if I bought Base Kit like tomorrow, and Umka Mods next week. Would MD ship them together in one bundle? Or would they ship them separately?

They just need to be separate orders with shipping paid on each.

Ok, got it. Thanks a lot!

[T0mb3ry]

Update.

[mimalik]

Update.

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I think we are at point where it will be prudent to see if lowering MOQ with slight increase in price can be an option. My concern is for Beezarre and Cadet, hopefully other participants will be ok with it. I'd rather pay a bit more than not get kit at all.

[T0mb3ry]

Update.

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I think we are at point where it will be prudent to see if lowering MOQ with slight increase in price can be an option. My concern is for Beezarre and Cadet, hopefully other participants will be ok with it. I'd rather pay a bit more than not get kit at all.

I am sorry but such actions are not possible because there are people who are already IN with their money. The drop goes till the end as it is. At the end everyone will be able to adjust their order or cancel it (in case the wanted kit constellation does not met its MOQ).

Good thing is, there will be GMK Carbon with full cherry profile.  ^-^ This is success for me already. Of course i want every kit to happen but we will see how it plays out in the end.

[Jkush463]

im hoping the last few days people will really pick up and grab some stuff really want at least umka and rolling bones to make it but well see would be dope if beezarre got pushed through though too.

[KingOfMemes]

COLEMAK HYPE!!!!!!

[superdoedoe]

Welp...These numbers aren't looking good. Gonna have to drop out if these numbers continue 

[AlcoholEnthusiast]

I wonder what the % is of ordered kits to MOQ before massdrop will just make it.

I'm building a 60% so really hope Warning Signs number row gets made. Also hopes Cadet makes it as well. First GB I've ever joined and this is stressful lol

[thelaughingman]

Update.

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Umka continues to go backward  :(

[Wetherbee]

Just order it and hope for a Thanksgiving miracle.

Carbon without warning signs is like a sundae without the cherry. 🍒

I'm personally praying for like 7-8 kits that are not even halfway there.