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Title: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB is Live!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 07 June 2021, 06:50:10

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 07 June 2021, 06:51:06
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Vortext on Mon, 07 June 2021, 06:56:02
Cute set. I like the decision to not go reverse dye-sub as well  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: cthalupa on Mon, 07 June 2021, 07:16:28
Excited to see this reach IC! Beautiful set.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: spikedsynapse on Mon, 07 June 2021, 07:17:40
Woot! Watching this set evolve has been great. Knowing the work you put into this makes it a definite buy from me. Well done & GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Afresh on Mon, 07 June 2021, 07:46:36
glwic  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 07 June 2021, 08:12:20
Imma need that Greek in the Base kit.

EDIT: Never mind, I prefer Clouds+Sky.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: andromache on Mon, 07 June 2021, 08:25:27
This set is beautiful, and I love the Greek sublegends kit, but I wish they were available in a base kit...not sure if that could be feasible with EPBT kitting? Anyway, great work.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: bansheetango on Mon, 07 June 2021, 08:43:08
Loved Kavala, passed through it on our way to Thassos.
This set is beautiful, and I love the Greek sublegends kit, but I wish they were available in a base kit...not sure if that could be feasible with EPBT kitting? Anyway, great work.
Second this, the set is inspired by a Greek town, seems fit to have Greek sublegends in base. No sublegends should be the addon.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: TyPo.mk on Mon, 07 June 2021, 10:07:40
Consider 2 base kits like epbt origami. I imagine many people will want the Greek set and each Base would have a moq of 100 instead of 200
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: ThickJimmy on Mon, 07 June 2021, 10:47:44
Glad to finally see this in IC after watching the development process. GLWIC homie!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Mon, 07 June 2021, 11:06:59
Been loving this set since the first concept, GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Shiba1337 on Mon, 07 June 2021, 11:13:35
other than the feedback that I've already given (which was preference anyways), looks really good! Exited to see where this goes, and will probably pick a set up if it goes to gb.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Trigozen on Mon, 07 June 2021, 11:17:47
Looks great man! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: jagger27 on Mon, 07 June 2021, 11:18:22
Gotta get some Sky+Clouds renders
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 07 June 2021, 13:04:20
Thank you all for the feedback and kind words. This set has been a labor of love, and to see it receive such a positive response on day one means a lot to me.

Regarding the greek subs in base, please fill out the IC form with that feedback if changing the kitting would significantly increase the likelihood that you would buy something from the set. I am open to changing kitting based on IC feedback. Rn I am hoping that the Sky kit will be $30-40, and therefore not significantly cost-prohibitive.

I have tried to cover as many variations as possible in my renders (under the "more" tab), including Sky+Clouds variations. If there are additional variations you would like to see please let me know and I will try to satisfy the request(s) to the best of my ability.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: PradyXT on Mon, 07 June 2021, 13:29:48
Wooo IC! Excited to see what this is going to turn into :D
Watching this set progress was interesting!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: azzipa on Mon, 07 June 2021, 13:42:50
your design captures the sunset image well. and after admiring the colors, the next thing i thought was: no reverse dye-sub! glwic  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: jabe8i on Mon, 07 June 2021, 14:02:29
this give off similar vibes as taihao's hawaii but this is much better imo
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: jabe8i on Mon, 07 June 2021, 14:10:05
Consider 2 base kits like epbt origami. I imagine many people will want the Greek set and each Base would have a moq of 100 instead of 200

Not sure if the moq thing is a big issue for ePBT. Correct me if im wrong but isn't it if one set hits moq then all of them get made?

I personally prefer a separate sublegends kit because I can potentially fill up 2 boards without having to buy 2 whole base kits, I also don't want to be left with half a dozen shift keys that I will never use if I buy 2 base kits.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: WQ on Mon, 07 June 2021, 15:09:32
It's finally here!!!

I've been following ur work on discord for a while, can't wait for the GB and good luck with the interest check!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: PradyXT on Mon, 07 June 2021, 20:13:08
Consider 2 base kits like epbt origami. I imagine many people will want the Greek set and each Base would have a moq of 100 instead of 200

Not sure if the moq thing is a big issue for ePBT. Correct me if im wrong but isn't it if one set hits moq then all of them get made?

I personally prefer a separate sublegends kit because I can potentially fill up 2 boards without having to buy 2 whole base kits, I also don't want to be left with half a dozen shift keys that I will never use if I buy 2 base kits.

(iirc) If base kit is reaches MoQ, all kits will be made.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: TyPo.mk on Mon, 07 June 2021, 20:26:47
Consider 2 base kits like epbt origami. I imagine many people will want the Greek set and each Base would have a moq of 100 instead of 200

Not sure if the moq thing is a big issue for ePBT. Correct me if im wrong but isn't it if one set hits moq then all of them get made?

I personally prefer a separate sublegends kit because I can potentially fill up 2 boards without having to buy 2 whole base kits, I also don't want to be left with half a dozen shift keys that I will never use if I buy 2 base kits.

(iirc) If base kit is reaches MoQ, all kits will be made.

You are correct, My point in bringing up moq was that for epbt  if you have 2 base kits the moq is only 100 each (so still only 200 total) not 200 each. So there’s very little downside in offering 2 base kits
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: clickpig on Mon, 07 June 2021, 21:35:05
This colourway is really pretty, glwic!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: ManoliVisuals on Mon, 07 June 2021, 21:41:09
Absolutely love this. I'm always in for Greek themed sets <3 my only suggestions (my preference of course) is that you have the sublegened alphas in base, but thats just me lol
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: pararch on Tue, 08 June 2021, 00:00:07
Looks great! GLWIC
Title: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Technofrikus on Tue, 08 June 2021, 00:14:47
Poly orea! :)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Ruinate on Tue, 08 June 2021, 00:16:39
Absolutely gorgeous!
Reminds me of the sunrise scene in Hades game as well.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Neely_12 on Tue, 08 June 2021, 00:30:47
Really like this! well done
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: crusader_alex on Tue, 08 June 2021, 04:48:38
Πολύ όμορφο σετ φίλε! Καλή επιτυχία!

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 08 June 2021, 10:08:31
Absolutely love this. I'm always in for Greek themed sets <3 my only suggestions (my preference of course) is that you have the sublegened alphas in base, but thats just me lol

Thank you, I'm a big fan of GMK Evil Eye as well! IC feedback + quotes will likely determine whether sublegends are in base.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 08 June 2021, 14:21:49
I love the lowercase Greek sublegends. But as pretty as the set is, I’m not sure I can make it work… Will definitely consider it though. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 08 June 2021, 23:13:03
Πολύ όμορφο σετ φίλε! Καλή επιτυχία!

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: KeyboardPeople on Wed, 09 June 2021, 00:06:03
I really like all the colors, but it's a little much. I would drop the orange and just the rest. Either way it looks nice though GLWIC.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 09 June 2021, 15:27:41
I really like all the colors, but it's a little much. I would drop the orange and just the rest. Either way it looks nice though GLWIC.

I understand this sentiment completely. Clouds + Sky is meant to be an alternative for those who aren't on board with so many colors. Check out the additional renders, there are quite a few combinations you can put the set in, including a blue-only colorway I'm partial towards.

As an update, I am currently working on securing vendors and collabs. If you're interested in working with me don't hesitate to reach out!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 09 June 2021, 15:51:39
This is really swell, really like the usage of regular dyesub instead of opting for reverse dyesub.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 10 June 2021, 13:32:35
Update: Most preliminary agreements with vendors have been made, expect a formal vendor announcement soon (tm).
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala
Post by: CHEESETWIST on Fri, 11 June 2021, 15:43:34
Love it! The gradient is beautiful!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - NA vendor secured!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 14 June 2021, 07:15:40
Vendors so far:
NA - Vala Supply
AS/Global - KBDfans
Expect other vendor announcements this week!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 16 June 2021, 08:50:38
Vendors Announced!
Global/AS: Kbdfans
NA: Vala Supply
EU: MykeyboardEU
CA: Ashkeebs
UK: Prototypist
OCE: Daily Clack
PH: ZionStudiosPH
India: Stackskb
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: NimbleTortoise on Thu, 17 June 2021, 01:21:18
This set would look even nicer with icon mods, what a shame.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: DerBonk on Thu, 17 June 2021, 03:12:23
I am far from an expert on kitting, but for my personal use, it would be fantastic if you added two R1 1u mods to the mikró kit. It would allow me to just get the Sky alphas and the mikró kit to fill my 4-row split ergos (for example Sofle, Lily). For full Preonic-style orthos, you would need more R4 1u, but many users might find a way to still make that work with the extra R4 keys in the alphas set. Just a thought, totally understand if it is not worth it, esp. with the base kit MoQ being important with ePBT, afaik.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: OfficialP3 on Thu, 17 June 2021, 07:41:42
This set would look even nicer with icon mods, what a shame.
Agreed, Icon mods would make this more than incredible

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: Cylent on Fri, 18 June 2021, 11:33:32
This set would look even nicer with icon mods, what a shame.

I hear you. A while back a survey was completed by an NA vendor (if memory serves) that showed people generally prefer icon+text mods with icon-only a somewhat close second, and text-only a distant third.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 21 June 2021, 17:49:39
Update: I will be updating the 40s kit with icon-only mods. 40s users should be able to fully cover their boards by purchasing the Sky Greek sublegend alphas and the mikro 40s kit. Keep a lookout for that sometime this week or next!

Development on the novelties is progressing, what Greek-themed illustrations would you like to see?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 22 June 2021, 01:43:46
Anyway to get a cloud + sky render?

Sublegends + Icon Mods = :D!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: DerBonk on Tue, 22 June 2021, 01:59:53
My main suggestion would be to follow your inspiration. It is so personal, so, I bet you can draw some great non-cliche ideas there.

My personal associations with Greece and the image on the deskmat would be: an olive branch (or just an olive), a small fishing boat, the sunset in the sea, the shape of the Peloponnese and/or Crete, a branch of thyme, the Bouzouki, and of course the building style with lots of interwoven cubic shapes and some domes, as well as ornate wooden doors (this is probably very hard to capture in novelty, though). To me, all the references to ancient Greece (columns, pantheon, statues) are not as strong/too cliched, but if these are strong associations for you, I can totally understand that.

I guess it might make sense to decide what aspects of Greece you want to focus on, to make the theme stronger and more coherent.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: Ruinate on Tue, 22 June 2021, 14:04:54
I love anything and everything to do with Greek Mythology, but realize that's not really the aesthetic you're going for here. But if you decided to make novelties or a set in the future with this theme (especially using pbt again!), I would likely have to instantly buy all of it.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 22 June 2021, 18:33:40
Anyway to get a cloud + sky render?

Sublegends + Icon Mods = :D!

Hi, please click "more" underneath where it says "Click Here for More Renders" in the render section of the IC.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: DrHigsby on Wed, 23 June 2021, 13:44:08
I really dig the greek sub-legends on the alt alphas!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: NimbleTortoise on Thu, 24 June 2021, 18:58:48
Update: I will be updating the 40s kit with icon-only mods. 40s users should be able to fully cover their boards by purchasing the Sky Greek sublegend alphas and the mikro 40s kit. Keep a lookout for that sometime this week or next!

Development on the novelties is progressing, what Greek-themed illustrations would you like to see?

Regarding the icons,

1) I don't think it has to be heavily Greek themed. I'm just tired of the usual 'arrows on everything' icon mods, like with shifts, backspace, enter and cap locks. At the same time, I don't want it to be cheesy by having icons of Greek vases and temples. Simple symmetric shapes would be nice. Some ideas:

Zeus lightning for esc

Artemis or Cupid arrow for backspace or enter

Posideon trident and Hades symbol for shifts

Helios/ Apollo sun symbol for whatever

Aphrodite heart, Dionysus grape, Athena owl, Demeter branch, Hermeus Caduceus, etc. There are a lot of cool symbols that can replace the typical icon mods.

2) It may be worth considering centering these icons, rather than putting it on the left side. Like original cherry style. I can't be the only one who finds the usual right side mods awkward as hell aligned to the left.

3) The reason I suggest icon mods over the text + icon mods is because regular icon mods look a lot cleaner with sublegend alphas. I do believe with regular latin alphas, the text + icon mods look a bit more balanced. Imo having these unique mod designs will really match the Greek sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: DerBonk on Fri, 25 June 2021, 02:26:50
I think these icons are a cool idea, I personally enjoy non-standard mod icons, but I know a lot of the community does not like that at all. The idea with icons representing the gods is cool, though not for me. I get more "modern Greece" vibes from the colors and inspiration. However, depending on the execution, icons like that would not deter me from purchasing the set.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: Cylent on Fri, 25 June 2021, 13:40:15
My main suggestion would be to follow your inspiration. It is so personal, so, I bet you can draw some great non-cliche ideas there.

My personal associations with Greece and the image on the deskmat would be: an olive branch (or just an olive), a small fishing boat, the sunset in the sea, the shape of the Peloponnese and/or Crete, a branch of thyme, the Bouzouki, and of course the building style with lots of interwoven cubic shapes and some domes, as well as ornate wooden doors (this is probably very hard to capture in novelty, though). To me, all the references to ancient Greece (columns, pantheon, statues) are not as strong/too cliched, but if these are strong associations for you, I can totally understand that.

I guess it might make sense to decide what aspects of Greece you want to focus on, to make the theme stronger and more coherent.

Thank you for the feedback. The novelties designs have been progressing smoothly. I'm going to be avoiding the typical associations people have with Greece, such as Santorini houses, the Parthenon, the Greek Pantheon of Gods, etc. and rather focus on things that are culturally relevant to Greece, and to Kavala specifically. Kavala was originally a fishing town, so one of your ideas may be currently in development.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Vendors Announced
Post by: DerBonk on Fri, 25 June 2021, 16:19:29
That sounds great to me. A strong theme does a lot for me with a keycap set and you clearly have a strong connection to and vision for this theme, that's always the best. Looking forward to the novelties!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 28 June 2021, 22:35:10
Update:
The R3 Mod color has been changed from 209U to 207U. The hue is nearly identical, but is lighter and more saturated, increasing legibility and making the gradient more smooth.

The 40s kit, Mikró, has been overhauled, becoming a fully-fledged 40s mods kit with support for JD40/45, Prime-e, Planck, Preonic, Minivan, Dimple, and Whimsy layouts, among others when paired with Sky (Alt alphas).

I'm excited to hear your feedback on this update!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: TheWonderBubble on Tue, 29 June 2021, 01:24:45
Update:
The 40s kit, Mikró, has been overhauled...support for...Whimsy layouts

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: DerBonk on Tue, 29 June 2021, 03:13:02
I really like the new color. Much more vibrant and evocative of the sun, imo. Great work on the kitting, also! The three "Opa!" novelties are also a very nice addition.
Title: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: Technofrikus on Tue, 29 June 2021, 09:05:24
I agree! Great update and set.
Opa! means grandfather in German, but i love it, being half Greek.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: Georen on Tue, 29 June 2021, 12:15:01
Loving this set for sure,
So nice that it'll work on light or dark coloured boards too!

<3
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 30 June 2021, 11:30:56
I agree! Great update and set.
Opa! means grandfather in German, but i love it, being half Greek.

I didn't know that! I guess German users can get a kick out of the novelty too!

In case anyone missed it, the OPA! replaces the meta key.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 30 June 2021, 12:29:13
First keycap set I've seen in about 3 months that gets me excited for a GB.  Very nice look.  Can't wait to join






Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: Cylent on Sat, 03 July 2021, 14:05:52
As a quick update, novelty designs are progressing smoothly. Expect a GB date announcement next week.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Sat, 03 July 2021, 18:01:48
As a quick update, novelty designs are progressing smoothly. Expect a GB date announcement next week.
poggers
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: MultiDoc on Tue, 06 July 2021, 05:58:37
I don’t know how I’ve missed this! Great looking set and hopefully will come to fruition. Personally if it will have proper Greek sublegends (I am Greek but live in the UK) with also proper UK ISO support, I’ll be getting two sets definitely and some child kits too. Looking forward to the GB!!!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 06 July 2021, 11:33:56
I don’t know how I’ve missed this! Great looking set and hopefully will come to fruition. Personally if it will have proper Greek sublegends (I am Greek but live in the UK) with also proper UK ISO support, I’ll be getting two sets definitely and some child kits too. Looking forward to the GB!!!

I'm glad you like the colors! I have a couple follow up questions for you:
-what do you mean by proper Greek Sublegends?
-what do you mean by proper UK ISO support?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Color Change & 40s Kit Overhaul
Post by: MultiDoc on Wed, 07 July 2021, 05:54:48
By proper sublegends I mean dyed ones, cause up this day I have to resort to using stick on shreek sublegends on my keycaps (yes, not funny). As for proper UK ISO again I mean prepped support and not just as many do by declaring iso support because they throw in an ISO enter keycap.


Thanks in advance for making this set and as I said count me in for two sets at least!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 07 July 2021, 08:48:13
Update:

The Group Buy Period for ePBT Kavala will be Oct 1 - Nov 1, 2021!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: _IanOfEarth on Wed, 07 July 2021, 13:17:01
The colors and gradient in this set are great! I really like it!

Please add two 1.5u Super keys and a second 1u Alt key either to the base kit or an extension kit to add support for macOS 7u and HHKB layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: 0hh.Hello on Thu, 08 July 2021, 16:45:34
Update:

The Group Buy Period for ePBT Kavala will be Oct 1 - Nov 1, 2021!

Oh man, thank you an October GB-- I can't afford any new GBs right now, but October I can do!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: SykeJr on Fri, 09 July 2021, 09:31:17
really loving this; looking forward to the GB
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: SwirlCables on Sat, 10 July 2021, 00:50:36
loving the settle colors!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 12 July 2021, 08:18:59
Update:

Novelty Illustrations have been completed and sent to ePBT to review. Once approval is given they will be declassified. Expect a full release late this week or sometime next week.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: JohnYYZ on Mon, 12 July 2021, 10:02:17
Update:

Novelty Illustrations have been completed and sent to ePBT to review. Once approval is given they will be declassified. Expect a full release late this week or sometime next week.

I look forward to seeing the novelties!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: atl22033 on Fri, 16 July 2021, 14:54:13
lookin extra spicy
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: koolkeebs on Tue, 20 July 2021, 08:21:39
This truly captures the essence of a sunset
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: keepoto on Tue, 20 July 2021, 11:03:00
Amazing colour. Just wish that alphas could follow side row's colour as well
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB Date Oct 1 - Nov 1!
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 21 July 2021, 13:06:21
Update:

Novelty illustrations are complete and have been approved by ePBT, but I still need to get my ducks in a row for the formal release. I will try to release them tomorrow, but it's looking more likely that the announcement will come Monday.

For those of you who don't want to wait, you may find something interesting on my discord... :-X
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 22 July 2021, 09:43:36
Novelties have been Declassified! Click "more" to see descriptions of what they all are, and their cultural significance to Kavala and Greece as a whole. I hope you all love these novelties as much as I loved working on them with the one-and-only SpikedSynapse (please consider GMK Terror Below).
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: DerBonk on Thu, 22 July 2021, 10:30:10
I really enjoy the novelties. They feel very Greek and modern, without being too stereotypical. Great work!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: nolsia on Thu, 22 July 2021, 14:08:21
Beautiful novelties! The renders that eg0 made are stunning.

Wishing you lots of love and support!!!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: DrMuu on Thu, 22 July 2021, 15:15:12
Really like this set! Probably going to be my first group by set.   :D Just a question, there's not going to be a Colemak set here? :)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 22 July 2021, 22:25:24
Really like this set! Probably going to be my first group by set.   :D Just a question, there's not going to be a Colemak set here? :)

I'm glad you like it! ;D I haven't completely ruled out dvorak/colemak kits, but looking at past sales of these kits for fairly successful ePBT sets, it seems tough to justify.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: DrMuu on Fri, 23 July 2021, 08:13:11
Really like this set! Probably going to be my first group by set.   :D Just a question, there's not going to be a Colemak set here? :)

I'm glad you like it! ;D I haven't completely ruled out dvorak/colemak kits, but looking at past sales of these kits for fairly successful ePBT sets, it seems tough to justify.

Ok! I'll buy it either way, but I've been thinking of switching later on, so would buy it just in case :) Just out of curiosity, what impact does extra kits have for everything? Is it "just" the extra time you as the designer have to spend, or does it raise the price for everyone else? I get what you mean, ePBT Scandi which was the other set I was looking at only had 19 Typist sets bought, out of 592 base kits
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Fri, 23 July 2021, 11:29:28
Really like this set! Probably going to be my first group by set.   :D Just a question, there's not going to be a Colemak set here? :)

I'm glad you like it! ;D I haven't completely ruled out dvorak/colemak kits, but looking at past sales of these kits for fairly successful ePBT sets, it seems tough to justify.

Ok! I'll buy it either way, but I've been thinking of switching later on, so would buy it just in case :) Just out of curiosity, what impact does extra kits have for everything? Is it "just" the extra time you as the designer have to spend, or does it raise the price for everyone else? I get what you mean, ePBT Scandi which was the other set I was looking at only had 19 Typist sets bought, out of 592 base kits

With ePBT price structure there's not a massive punishment for lots of child kits (see ePBT Be the One), but there are a couple additional costs between design time, and vendor logistics and keeping track of kits. My main concern is that offering support for just one of these "rare" layouts seems difficult to justify.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: construed on Sat, 24 July 2021, 07:53:42
Also in for a Colevrak kit if it's offered!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: AnonymousPlatypus on Mon, 26 July 2021, 13:57:07
Wow these are gorgeous, I'm really interested in them... Is there going to be a french ISO support? Would definitely buy it! 
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: Gabrielcr78 on Tue, 27 July 2021, 08:46:55
Any chance to include Support for Spanish?
thanks
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 29 July 2021, 11:54:55
Also in for a Colevrak kit if it's offered!

Wow these are gorgeous, I'm really interested in them... Is there going to be a french ISO support? Would definitely buy it!

Any chance to include Support for Spanish?
thanks

Hi friends! I am working on seeing if there is a way I can both fulfill these requests, while keeping the # of kits down. Would you be OK with buying bundled kits that cost around the same as the norde (Global) kit, maybe a couple dollars less?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: AnonymousPlatypus on Fri, 30 July 2021, 06:05:40
I'm OK with it! Thank you for your hard work
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: iSamurai on Fri, 30 July 2021, 14:34:10
ePBT One Dark had a lot of kits to support other languages, maybe it is doable to use the same kitting here too?

Sent from my H8314 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: AnonymousPlatypus on Fri, 30 July 2021, 16:33:36
It's the same for ePBT Scandi, they've got separate kits for NorDe, French, Iberica and typist!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Novelties Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Sun, 01 August 2021, 11:01:53
Update on Colevrak and Language Support

The beacons were lit - many of you called for aid. I will try to answer the call for language and Colevrak support.

Here is the plan: In the next couple weeks I will be requesting quotes from ePBT. At that time I will be including some bundled language kit options and Colevrak. Based on how the quotes look I will talk to the kitting gods and release those new kits along with pricing. After that kitting should be finalized.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala (Lang. support update in reply)
Post by: DrMuu on Sun, 01 August 2021, 11:58:47
Hurray! If possible, I'd love an R2 Ö-key in the colevrak kit, but I'm guessing that's TOO niche. A Swedish Colemak user is already a subset of a subset.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala (Lang. support update in reply)
Post by: AnonymousPlatypus on Sun, 01 August 2021, 13:21:31
Sweeeeet thank you so much!!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 02 August 2021, 09:36:19
Update:

Collabs have been announced for ePBT Kavala. I am working on a few cables but they'll be announced (hopefully along with proto pics) later. I hope you're all excited for these :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 11 August 2021, 12:38:43
Update:

Hi friends, I'm back from vacation! :cool: We had a great time, the rest was much needed, and I'm slowly getting back into the grind.

I've added ZeroSky Keycaps added as a collaborator ;D and am working on cables, deskmats, and a few more goodies.

Only 7 weeks until GB!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: Adelscott on Wed, 11 August 2021, 16:28:38
I might comit if there's a french kit
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: AnonymousPlatypus on Wed, 11 August 2021, 17:11:39
I might comit if there's a french kit

You have great taste  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 11 August 2021, 17:32:33
I might comit if there's a french kit

If you or anyone else would buy Kavala if it had an ergo, french, spanish, colevrak, etc kit please fill out the IC with this feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: eeveeatemyessay on Fri, 13 August 2021, 08:13:55
Almost biting my nails, scrolling down, prepared to be disappointed that no Int/NorDe kit was in this. Lo and behold! There is!!! So happy. This set is perfect.

I've been looking for a light/sky blue set for so long, to the degree I even bought Protozoa Frost, even though the only ISO about it is the ISO enter. Happy this isn't GMK, too, since I'd like to get my set before I retire. ;)(Just joking, I like the rougher tactile feeling of the ePBT caps better.)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Collabs Announced!
Post by: purplishpeach on Sat, 14 August 2021, 19:32:06
beautiful stuff! very excited for this set
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Deskmat Vote Tmrw (8/17) on Discord!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 16 August 2021, 11:33:14
Update:

DISCORD DESKMAT VOTE:
On 8/17 I will be posting two alternate versions of a deskmat SpikedSynapse and I designed. The final version will be selected based on a hard vote by members of my Discord (https://discord.gg/TVdfMRsDGb). Join the discord if you'd like to participate in the vote!

Quotes
I have received quotes for all kits and am awaiting full pricing from vendors. Expect an announcement this week or next.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - New Deskmats!
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 18 August 2021, 19:32:26
Update:

Sunset & Clouds Deskmats have been posted! I hope all of you love these amazing designs from SpikedSynapse (pls consider GMK Terror Below) as much as I do!

Expect pricing and final kits to be revealed next week.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 25 August 2021, 09:32:36
Update:

Pricing for US vendor announced:
(https://i.imgur.com/OW4Ksiq.png)
Current pricing is listed in USD for US vendor (Vala Supply). Full pricing for other vendors will be released closer to GB date for more accurate currency exchange rates.

Ergo and Colevrak+ kits have been announced as well!

I'm sorry to say that there won't be any further language support, the request rates were too low. :( I hope this does not deter anyone from purchasing Kavala, but I understand if it does.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: DrMuu on Wed, 25 August 2021, 13:49:54
Oh no, now I have to buy the Ergo kit as well, since you have it. You're going to ruin me  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: Technofrikus on Thu, 26 August 2021, 02:21:15
Wow, just about 60$ for an ortho or 40s set? That is epic kitting and pricing! And so many 40 compatibility! You should advertise this in the 40s discord if not already happened.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: Beesley on Thu, 26 August 2021, 04:21:55
Watched this set progress for a while now and been loving every moment! great set!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: Cylent on Fri, 27 August 2021, 07:42:13
Wow, just about 60$ for an ortho or 40s set? That is epic kitting and pricing! And so many 40 compatibility! You should advertise this in the 40s discord if not already happened.

Thank you! Alt alphas + mods kits are quite efficient for 40s and ergo users. I will look into advertising on the 40s discord, thanks for the tip!
Title: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: Technofrikus on Fri, 27 August 2021, 12:00:18
Wow, just about 60$ for an ortho or 40s set? That is epic kitting and pricing! And so many 40 compatibility! You should advertise this in the 40s discord if not already happened.

Thank you! Alt alphas + mods kits are quite efficient for 40s and ergo users. I will look into advertising on the 40s discord, thanks for the tip!
Oh yes these are the alt alphas. Didnt notice that. But still a great option. I always wanted to learn Greek, the language of my grandparents :)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: vishydesigns on Fri, 27 August 2021, 14:54:06
Dope Dope Dope, I like the choice to go with no reverse dye sub, unlike my set XD GLWGB
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Pricing, Ergo & Colevrak+
Post by: scoopbb on Sat, 28 August 2021, 18:21:07
ergo kit? im in!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Render Pack #1!
Post by: Cylent on Sun, 05 September 2021, 17:56:23
UPDATE:

Render Pack #1 Released
This is intended to be the first of two packs of renders added to the IC before GB


Click “More” to see CURRENT Renders!
More

Sunset:
Piggy60 by Jacky Studio – Render by SpikedSynapse
(https://i.imgur.com/Ddst8yW.jpg)
Haus by Hand Engineering
(https://i.imgur.com/lLoBrRE.png)
More
Mysterium by coseyfannitutti – Render by SpikedSynapse
(https://i.imgur.com/pCY3wYG.jpg)
F1-8X by Geonworks – Render by eg0t1st1k4l
(https://i.imgur.com/STPaOpE.png)
KBD67lite by kbdfans – Render by eg0t1st1k4l
(https://i.imgur.com/rdCcuUm.png)
Maja by Vulcan
(https://i.imgur.com/iNG8xQ6.png)
Whi65 by 383 Boards
(https://i.imgur.com/0q7I8eW.png)
Whi65 by 383 Boards
(https://i.imgur.com/3w6ipwO.png)
Whi65 by 383 Boards
(https://i.imgur.com/8ACcoU3.png)

Clouds:
Cypher by Cable Car Designs
(https://i.imgur.com/KFBfUJS.png)
More
F1-8X by Geonworks – Render by eg0t1st1k4l
(https://i.imgur.com/p8vA6cN.png)
Whi65 by 383 Boards
(https://i.imgur.com/jMmtDVn.png)
Paragon by Artemis Design Studio
(https://i.imgur.com/k78Jquz.png)
Fuji65 by CMM Studio
(https://i.imgur.com/Nsg7Qq2.png)

40s (mikró):
Whimsy by PRKNS
(https://i.imgur.com/B1MvcZf.png)
More
Whimsy by PRKNS
(https://i.imgur.com/FWBN8ck.png)
Phoenix45 by projectcain
(https://i.imgur.com/znyI7Kk.png)


Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Metal Artisans Revealed!
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 09 September 2021, 11:29:04
UPDATE:

Metal Artisans Revealed!
Click “More” to see Kavala's Metal Artisan Collabs!
More
Metal Artisans:
Asero Foundry (https://aserofoundry.com/)
(https://i.imgur.com/LxFD6OK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rz5dRLq.png)
Captus Keycaps (https://captus.io/)
(https://i.imgur.com/tNc8L4J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z4TuQh8.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Asero & Captus Metal Artisans!
Post by: AnonymousPlatypus on Fri, 10 September 2021, 15:41:43
Love the Santorini artisan, would definitely buy!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Metal Artisans Revealed!
Post by: tomkatsuuu on Fri, 10 September 2021, 17:15:48

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LxFD6OK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/z4TuQh8.jpg)



Beautiful artisans, can't wait to see the sample~
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Asero & Captus Metal Artisans!
Post by: Albay on Mon, 13 September 2021, 12:46:14
In the global kit I can not find a R4 key with a comma and a semicolon ,; for full german support. At the place where most other global kits have this key there is a colon with semicolon :; key. Am I to blind to find this key, or is this a mistake?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Asero & Captus Metal Artisans!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 13 September 2021, 15:55:21
In the global kit I can not find a R4 key with a comma and a semicolon ,; for full german support. At the place where most other global kits have this key there is a colon with semicolon :; key. Am I to blind to find this key, or is this a mistake?

This was a mistake that was pointed out to me a little while ago, thanks for the reminder. The Global (NorDe) kit has been fixed, see the current kit images for the updated kit.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Asero & Captus Metal Artisans!
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 20 September 2021, 08:12:44
Kavala GB starts in 10 days!

Expect news about the following in the next few days:
-Deskmat Pricing
-Artisan Pricing
-Cables + Cable Pricing
-Render Pack #2
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Render Pack #2
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 23 September 2021, 08:59:58
UPDATE:

Render Pack #2!
Only one week away from Group Buy!

Click “More” to see the new Renders
More
OGR by Alchemist Keyboards – Render by SpikedSynapse
(https://i.imgur.com/eB8gVci.jpg)
Phoenix WK by Cable Car Designs
(https://i.imgur.com/CjXSsKc.png)
Argyle by Seoulcialite - Render by eg0t1st1k4l
(https://i.imgur.com/bXDtpMF.png)
Whimsy by PRKNS
(https://i.imgur.com/tvhC6j4.png)
Atlas by Nasp
(https://i.imgur.com/HeDPcm5.png)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Render Pack #2
Post by: DerBonk on Thu, 23 September 2021, 10:11:03
These are amazing! So excited for this set! The Greek sublegends look fantastic. And you are also doing great work with this thread, by the way. Could not ask for more.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Render Pack #2
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 27 September 2021, 10:17:31
Group Buy in 5 days!



Cables are in progress, expect updates on those before group buy, along with full pricing for all products sold through vendors.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - Cable Collab Announced!
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 29 September 2021, 10:02:27
Group Buy in 2 days!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Kavala - GB is Live!
Post by: Cylent on Fri, 01 October 2021, 07:35:30
ePBT Kavala is LIVE!

Kavala is live in almost all regions, and should be live in all regions over the next few hours! The IC post has been trimmed down to direct everyone to the GB page. See you there!