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I'm not gonna lie this triggers my fight or flight response. Subs are super hard to read as well. GLWC though.
Interested, really digging the colors, but not digging on the centered icons. GLWIC :thumb:
I really like the colors, but would definitely prefer OG icon mods as well
also the sublegends are kind of hard to read
Please consider OG icon mods, and subs on numpad. Base is lovely, like the colors a lot!
actually like this a lot more than i thought i would. +1 for numpad subs and og alignment
i remember the good ol days of not being forced into getting nonsensical sublegends in a base kit, rather them being offered in an alt itThose were the horrible, old, bad times, when evil walked the land and rubber domes ruled all..
i remember the good ol days of not being forced into getting nonsensical sublegends in a base kit, rather them being offered in an alt it
Ooof I absolutely dig the colour choices here, would really love a complete latin base kit like the hazakura had.
ive been deep into the raw denim + japanese denim scene for 13ish years now and have a decent wardrobe of raw denim from brands like roy, momotaro, ironheart, sugarcane, oni, warehouse. So this feedback is coming from a person that wears 21oz ironheart double knee overalls in the middle of summer:
i wish it were more based around either raw denim or the fade of the raw denim and a lot less on the repair of the denim. The novelties are almost exclusively repairs. I would consider double arches, red tags, some type of random cuff artisan. theres just so much more then the thread repair pattern to raw denim that i want to be more excited for this set.
also i would really love if latin were in the base and the "rosetta" stone version was the alt.
Not really a fan of OG icon alignment. If anything, OG icon-text could be on the table, depending on interest. Numpad sublegends, not so much.
Although I don't wear this style of Japanese sashiko denim anymore, I still really enjoy the aesthetics of it and it makes for a surprisingly awesome set.
My only question would be did you consider other manu than GMK?
JTK does triple shot and are cheaper than GMK.
I know JTK isn't that fast either, but with GMK if this was entering GB in a couple of months we would probably look at Q2 2023 which personally I would have a hard time joining.
I am not sure if some newer manufacturer like MW can do pad/UV printing, but if yes that would be pretty awesome for the cost and delivery time.
Although I don't wear this style of Japanese sashiko denim anymore, I still really enjoy the aesthetics of it and it makes for a surprisingly awesome set.
My only question would be did you consider other manu than GMK?
JTK does triple shot and are cheaper than GMK.
I know JTK isn't that fast either, but with GMK if this was entering GB in a couple of months we would probably look at Q2 2023 which personally I would have a hard time joining.
I am not sure if some newer manufacturer like MW can do pad/UV printing, but if yes that would be pretty awesome for the cost and delivery time.
I’ve tried JTK and Domikey. It’s really not the same quality of ABS caps as GMK. I’ve not seen other PBT makers able to do this range of colour vibrancy as yet, although I’m waiting for Wuque Studio’s Kraken.
I really dig the colorway, love the icon mods also!
Personally, I would go with non-sub legend alphas for the base kit because UV printed sub legend might not for everyone
Anyway GLWIC
Not everything HAS to contrast! Fan of the set with the current sublegend (or heavy fade if you do want to try more visibility, I love that blue). If you like how the sublegends look right now, I'd vote to keep it.
The only thing you should really look for is $$$ of UV print. Besides that, love the set!
My ratio of sets w Asian language sublegends sans Latin alpha kits to sets to purchased is under 1:100 (Striker). Keep those subs as you have em.
i really like the color, but sublegend pretty off, would be better in doubleshot and white sublegend, otherwise just put latin alpha in basekit.
The subs are kinda hard to see and uv prnting drives the price way way up, so they're should at least be more visible. Novelties are super nice tho, deskmat too. GLWIC brah!
just want to chime in - i LOVE the subtlety / low contrast of the sublegends, and it's probably my favorite part about the set.
Although I don't wear this style of Japanese sashiko denim anymore, I still really enjoy the aesthetics of it and it makes for a surprisingly awesome set.
My only question would be did you consider other manu than GMK?
JTK does triple shot and are cheaper than GMK.
I know JTK isn't that fast either, but with GMK if this was entering GB in a couple of months we would probably look at Q2 2023 which personally I would have a hard time joining.
I am not sure if some newer manufacturer like MW can do pad/UV printing, but if yes that would be pretty awesome for the cost and delivery time.
I’ve tried JTK and Domikey. It’s really not the same quality of ABS caps as GMK. I’ve not seen other PBT makers able to do this range of colour vibrancy as yet, although I’m waiting for Wuque Studio’s Kraken.
Off-topic but what are the keyboards you used for renders? One seem to be Vanquish, what are the other two?
Although I don't wear this style of Japanese sashiko denim anymore, I still really enjoy the aesthetics of it and it makes for a surprisingly awesome set.
My only question would be did you consider other manu than GMK?
JTK does triple shot and are cheaper than GMK.
I know JTK isn't that fast either, but with GMK if this was entering GB in a couple of months we would probably look at Q2 2023 which personally I would have a hard time joining.
I am not sure if some newer manufacturer like MW can do pad/UV printing, but if yes that would be pretty awesome for the cost and delivery time.
I’ve tried JTK and Domikey. It’s really not the same quality of ABS caps as GMK. I’ve not seen other PBT makers able to do this range of colour vibrancy as yet, although I’m waiting for Wuque Studio’s Kraken.
Yeah, unfortunately GMK is still a cut above others in terms of the quality I'm looking for. They're also much easier to work with than say, JTK.
Although I don't wear this style of Japanese sashiko denim anymore, I still really enjoy the aesthetics of it and it makes for a surprisingly awesome set.
My only question would be did you consider other manu than GMK?
JTK does triple shot and are cheaper than GMK.
I know JTK isn't that fast either, but with GMK if this was entering GB in a couple of months we would probably look at Q2 2023 which personally I would have a hard time joining.
I am not sure if some newer manufacturer like MW can do pad/UV printing, but if yes that would be pretty awesome for the cost and delivery time.
I’ve tried JTK and Domikey. It’s really not the same quality of ABS caps as GMK. I’ve not seen other PBT makers able to do this range of colour vibrancy as yet, although I’m waiting for Wuque Studio’s Kraken.
Yeah, unfortunately GMK is still a cut above others in terms of the quality I'm looking for. They're also much easier to work with than say, JTK.
What about Domikeys?
As somebody mentioned this set isn't really about the vibrancy of the colors.
But if you are 100% set on GMK I understand, it's just I can't see myself joining a set that I will get mid 2023, but I'm sure plenty of people will. It looks great :thumb:
Although I don't wear this style of Japanese sashiko denim anymore, I still really enjoy the aesthetics of it and it makes for a surprisingly awesome set.
My only question would be did you consider other manu than GMK?
JTK does triple shot and are cheaper than GMK.
I know JTK isn't that fast either, but with GMK if this was entering GB in a couple of months we would probably look at Q2 2023 which personally I would have a hard time joining.
I am not sure if some newer manufacturer like MW can do pad/UV printing, but if yes that would be pretty awesome for the cost and delivery time.
I’ve tried JTK and Domikey. It’s really not the same quality of ABS caps as GMK. I’ve not seen other PBT makers able to do this range of colour vibrancy as yet, although I’m waiting for Wuque Studio’s Kraken.
Yeah, unfortunately GMK is still a cut above others in terms of the quality I'm looking for. They're also much easier to work with than say, JTK.
What about Domikeys?
As somebody mentioned this set isn't really about the vibrancy of the colors.
But if you are 100% set on GMK I understand, it's just I can't see myself joining a set that I will get mid 2023, but I'm sure plenty of people will. It looks great :thumb:
It’s not about the color. ABS is ABS as far as color vibrancy goes. After going through color matching with GMK Red Devils, I don’t think GMK is all that great at color matching anyway.
I’m more concerned about legend consistency and alignment. I understand GMK has had some QC issues in recent sets, but they’re still a relatively known quantity whereas I have no experience with Domikey. I saw that they can do tripleshot, which is attractive. If someone could vouch for their quality, then I’m open to considering it.
Domikey’s legends are off. The spacing of the lettering of the mods aren’t great (“shif t”), the numbers for the hiragana are too small (compared to GMK), the texture of the keycaps aren’t as great.
Beside sub and non sub legend, are there any problems with the current kitting? I think base kit and novelty are goodDomikey’s legends are off. The spacing of the lettering of the mods aren’t great (“shif t”), the numbers for the hiragana are too small (compared to GMK), the texture of the keycaps aren’t as great.
This is what I suspected. Manufacturing will remain with GMK. Hopefully, we can have a GB sooner rather than later, although GMK has been rather slow with providing quotes lately.
Given the feedback so far, I have a pretty good idea of where I want to take the kitting. Metal artisan collabs are also forthcoming.
DeskmatShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/xJv9rLT.jpg)
I guess I'll voice my vote for keeping the hiragana subs as I like them, and they feel adequate for the theme of the set.
im down the Latin base
Voted in the poll! Hoping for latin base too :cool:
Latin ez win
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Damn. I was looking forward to the low contrast hiragana sublegends. Sad that they aren’t even in the JIS kit :( will it be too prohibitive to offer that?
By the way the link for the new IC form is broken. It now shows the Imgur for the results of the last form.
Damn. I was looking forward to the low contrast hiragana sublegends. Sad that they aren’t even in the JIS kit :( will it be too prohibitive to offer that?
By the way the link for the new IC form is broken. It now shows the Imgur for the results of the last form.
Thanks, it's been fixed. I think given that alternate legend child kits have a historical attachment rate of less than 15%, price is going to be a major factor for this kit to make its MOQ.
I'll miss the low contrast Japanese legends. I was excited to have a nice (ISO) Japanese set.
Could you add the R3 |\ and R4 >< key that is now missing please?
I'll miss the low contrast Japanese legends. I was excited to have a nice (ISO) Japanese set.
Could you add the R3 |\ and R4 >< key that is now missing please?
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Being about 60/40% I think you should also consider the option of 2 base kits one for latin alphas and one for hiragana sublegends.
Ah, I must have missed that R3 scurrying to find the old R4 [><]… so one key needed? :PThe R4 <>ろ key is not needed since there is already a R4 \_ろ key (as circled in the image that Fredington posted).
BaseI would move the generic R4 1u Meta key to the Extension kit. I think that's about the only change I'd make, for now.
The updated Base kit now features Latin-only legends with support for 60% boards and up. Terminal-style ISO and F13 are included.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VZ9pLwY.png)
Being about 60/40% I think you should also consider the option of 2 base kits one for latin alphas and one for hiragana sublegends.
I wanted something like this in the survey
I want Latin base and but will buy hiragana base, not child Latin alphas
I want Latin base but will buy Latin child kit and hiragana base (I was here)
I want Latin base and if it’s not there I’m out
Along with the other 3.
I think from there you get the data for child kit or not. Experienced designers like Fredington might know they’re unreliable though…
Being about 60/40% I think you should also consider the option of 2 base kits one for latin alphas and one for hiragana sublegends.
BaseI would move the generic R4 1u Meta key to the Extension kit. I think that's about the only change I'd make, for now.
The updated Base kit now features Latin-only legends with support for 60% boards and up. Terminal-style ISO and F13 are included.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VZ9pLwY.png)
The R4 <>ろ key is not needed since there is already a R4 \_ろ key (as circled in the image that Fredington posted).
I understand the reasoning, I just hope the Latin buyers will come through.
But from looking at recent sales for Japanese inspired sets that had 2 base kits, afaik the base kit with Japanese subs always did better:
Hazakura, Origami, A, Harvest, Awaken and some were fairly close like Fuji and Shashin but the sub legends kits still did better.
Anyways it is 100% your decision and I will respect it, but I feel it is also something to consider since not everybody participates in the polls.
Agree with the few others about the original kitting. It's what attracted me to the set, low contrast looked so nice. Happy to see folks like the updates though! GL!
Agree with the few others about the original kitting. It's what attracted me to the set, low contrast looked so nice. Happy to see folks like the updates though! GL!
We will submit both versions for costing and see how it shakes out. Given the size of the kit, I would guess that it might be around $85-90 for doubleshot and possibly approaching $95-100 for UV printed, which is fairly undesirable to me and I'm sure to many others.
Today, I'm pleased to reveal the first artisan I have planned for this project. The following Kei Cap will be made from aluminum that is anodized, engraved, and infilled.That is, as they say, POGGERS
what’s the point of the extra tab in the hiragana kit?
Just checked SpaceCables and it doesn't look like it's live yet. KBDfans is up so I just wanted to check if they are going live on different days?
Is there a spacebar in the dark blue rinse color? Or only the two lighter shades of blue ?
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Holy moly, those new renders are amazing, they make the set look absolutely fantastic — I'm tempted to buy now where I wasn't before (GMK queues etc.). I have to say that this set more than most looks like it'll be made or broken by the colour matching, which is sort of what's putting me off purchasing.