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Offline ibell7945

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What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:43:47 »
Though the title pretty much says it all, I'm curious because many people seem to be post their own suggestions for designs that seem pretty odd. Thus, I've been wondering what the most commonly produced/normal 60% layout is.

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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:46:03 »
I'm not sure about most commonly produced, but the most "normal" is the Poker layout. Completely compatible with standard keysets.


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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 20:19:32 »
I would also agree that 'standard' would simply be the primary typing block from ANSI, ISO, or JIS layout.

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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 20:37:19 »
HHKB layout is at least as popular as Poker.
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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 20:50:08 »
HHKB layout is at least as popular as Poker.

Prove it

With the amount of people who own poker IIs, I doubt it.
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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:12:59 »
HHKB layout is at least as popular as Poker.

Prove it

With the amount of people who own poker IIs, I doubt it.

Maybe because I have HHKB, but I seem to have noticed more discussion about HHKB here than about Poker.
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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:57:29 »
HHKB layout is at least as popular as Poker.

I'd have to agree.  The most standard mass produced is probably the Poker layout or something similar, but HHKB is fairly common too.

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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 22:08:31 »
The HHKB has been around longer, but it is hardly standard.

I like the idea that the Poker is considered standard by its use of standard ANSI or ISO keycaps.
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Re: What is considered to be a "standard" 60% layout?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:06:43 »
you're going to get different answers based on people's definition of 'standard'.

standard for different people can mean:
1.  the most reused
2.  the most sold (number of people that have it vs the number that don't)
3.  the most recommended/liked
4.  the design most similiar to other designs


for 1, it's a tie.  they've both been used exactly once. different language variations don't count.  neither do replaced older models.

for 2, I'm not sure, but in the general populace, i would argue pokers are more common simply based on price.  normal people DO get scared away by a $250 keyboard purchase, but are totall okay paying $140 for a razer BW (and pokers are usually around the $110 mark)

for 3, HHKB wins by multiple light years

for 4, poker wins without a doubt.  the HHKB is popular because it is UNLIKE other keyboards.


so, pick your posion ;)
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