Custom Keycaps

[Binge]

They aren't copies, they're parodies and a kritik of the condition of novelty caps

it's spelled critique

I like it the way debate does it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kritik

fightin capitalistic cap making pigs cast by cast

Ohkay... I had no idea you were making a philosophical debate using your keys as a vehicle.

I have a criticism for you.  A parody of "capitalistic key designs" which affords you the capital to buy new supplies is hypocritical.

Deontology: Means over ends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontological_ethics)

The ethics of the fighting of your capitalistic designs through parody outweigh any outcomes of said protest

This isn't a protest.  Becoming what you seek to "destroy", deface, or devalue is hypocritical.

There isn't a question of right or wrong... and you are using a ethical standard derived specifically to justify actions which by the very nature of Deontology are to be devoid of good-will.

What's worse is that you are protesting the "capitalistic" nature of artisans arguing that your actions are justified because what the artisans are doing is wrong.

Stating very publicly that you wish to pursue an action without good-will is questionable in its nature because unlike your ethical philosophies there is a strong sense of importance behind the meaning of good-will in most of the people who frequent this forum.

I think there is evidence enough in that you have a place to set up shop because the rules of this place were made to promote fair action by moderators and good-will between members.

PC action of forum goers and staff may not always happen, but you should recognize that being the antithesis of good-natured will turn out badly for you.

[SpAmRaY]

I could say a lot about how they are not original blah blah counterfeiting blah blah  . add me to your ban list.
I never had any intentions of buying your copycaps anyways.

Would you possibly be able to make a form for people to write their own names into the ban-list?  I think it would save you time so you can work on all of those parodies.

That would take too much of Pacifist's time away from making his custom keycaps.  Let me help.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rVkWu9VJ4OVIPkFUkXwVHhj2JZcGQC05yXBvgdPXDZM/viewform?usp=send_form

Just click the link above and submit your GH screen name to self ban.  After submitting the form, you can click another link on the screen to see who else have self-banned themselves.

You can sign yourself up there, self-serve ban list.

[anoxy]

You people are way too serious pants about this.

Give 2pac some California luv

[anoxy]

I want a clack, cause skulls are pretty HXC hardc0re

Mod edit: language

[Pacifist]

Will you at least charge more so you don't have the same issues as the other cap makers? I mean start your prices at like $35 or $40 now so they won't be resold for marked up prices.

There will be no reselling for profit if one can get one at regular price anyways.

And your logic is flawed. CC sold his caps at $45 a pop, and they're being resold for profit anyways. Pricing up will only result in more marked up prices. Pricing down in combination with an ample supply solves the current predicament the laymen are in

[SpAmRaY]

Will you at least charge more so you don't have the same issues as the other cap makers? I mean start your prices at like $35 or $40 now so they won't be resold for marked up prices.

There will be no reselling for profit if one can get one at regular price anyways.

And your logic is flawed. CC sold his caps at $45 a pop, and they're being resold for profit anyways. Pricing up will only result in more marked up prices. Pricing down in combination with an ample supply solves the current predicament the laymen are in

Ok then sell them for $5 each.

[BunnyLake]

Will you at least charge more so you don't have the same issues as the other cap makers? I mean start your prices at like $35 or $40 now so they won't be resold for marked up prices.

There will be no reselling for profit if one can get one at regular price anyways.

And your logic is flawed. CC sold his caps at $45 a pop, and they're being resold for profit anyways. Pricing up will only result in more marked up prices. Pricing down in combination with an ample supply solves the current predicament the laymen are in

ample supply and low demand will work wonders in keeping aftermarket prices down

[Binge]

Will you at least charge more so you don't have the same issues as the other cap makers? I mean start your prices at like $35 or $40 now so they won't be resold for marked up prices.

There will be no reselling for profit if one can get one at regular price anyways.

And your logic is flawed. CC sold his caps at $45 a pop, and they're being resold for profit anyways. Pricing up will only result in more marked up prices. Pricing down in combination with an ample supply solves the current predicament the laymen are in

CC sold his caps for $15/ea before people started to resell them for $150-$200.

He's just making what he deserves. :-/

[BunnyLake]

im gonna post once more and then drop this as its getting out of hand my end

the trouble with your current story is, that isnt how all this started, this all came about because of comments me and a couple others made about you copying nubbs cap, and your subsequent attitude towards people

the way to play that whole situation was to just plead ignorance, that this is something you really wanted to do, and you are just learning at the moment, and you need to sell your early work so that you can subsidize the cost whilst you are learning

if you were doing this because you were passionate about it, and wanted to be part of this community, people would respect that, instead, it feels like you are taking shots at us, and we have bitten back

trying to pass off you are trying to do something for "the people" yet running around on the internet calling us geekwhack and still expecting our support is why this has gotten to the place it has

if you believe what you are saying then fine, but if you are saying this to try and save some face and you didnt know another way to do it, stop now, dont copy or parody people work, learn your craft, make something of your own and be humble and proud of it, and people will come out to support you

[Dubsgalore]

Question: will I be off the ban list in time for the second dud sale?

[SpAmRaY]

Question: will I be off the ban list in time for the second dud sale?

You can PM the paccappinator with an appeal but maybe if you change your name to dudsgalore he would go for it.

PS: i'm sad I'm no longer first on the list.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

You're awful feisty for a pacifist.

[Pacifist]

You're awful feisty for a pacifist.

Its a reference to garcin from no exit

[VesperSAINT]

You're awful feisty for a pacifist.

Boom.

[Binge]

And I never planned to make parodies. But when Binge pretty much gave me the permission to do so, I am doing it.

Yo buddy- I never gave you permission to make decisions for yourself.  I just informed you that you could make them and informed you about what was and was not legal.

Remember I also said that depending on what you choose it will show everyone what you really are.

[hashbaz]

This thread is locked for the time being.  Will unlock in a bit to let people chill out.

AFTER chilling, please direct arguments about copying of ideas and trademarks, etc. to a new thread, as Ray seems to have locked his discussion thread on this topic.

Remember that personal attacks are against the rules.  This thread has gotten waaaaay out of hand in this regard.  Disagreement, anger, and argumentation are totally OK, but don't let it get personal.

edit: Ray has reopened his thread, have at it! http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58330

[hashbaz]

Topic unlocked.  Please play nice.

[anoxy]

Pac, I hear you're all about giving the people what they want. I want Ninja Turtles and Street Sharks! Make it happen cap'n

[domoaligato]

the people want pandas.

[litster]

the people want pandas.

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[anoxy]

^200 bucks on the classifieds fo sho

[VesperSAINT]

the people want pandas.

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Lewllllllllll.

Note: Thought this was SpAmRaY's thread. No joke tho, that cap is buy worthy. If he makes and reasonable price, I'd buy. But he won't.

[exitfire401]

Alright, stop thread crapping, everyone. I don't like him much after the past few days, but let pac do his thing. If you don't want anything of his, stay out of this thread.

[anoxy]

Alright, stop thread crapping, everyone. I don't like him much after the past few days, but let pac do his thing. If you don't want anything of his, stay out of this thread.

I mean, I was genuinely pitching my design desires to him. Not many of the other cap crafters have said they want to "give the people what they want" so I can't really suggest ideas without being patronized.

[domoaligato]

I was giving a original idea. I was not thread crapping.
Litster that is genius. =)

[tigersharkdude]

the people want pandas.

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Pac, I hear you're all about giving the people what they want. I want Ninja Turtles and Street Sharks! Make it happen cap'n

10/10 would buy any of these

[anoxy]

I posted this in your duds thread already, but what's the turn around looking like on custom layered-color caps right now?

I have a sexy combo in mind.

[cherpalla]

Ninja Turtles

I know someone who is working on this 

[IonutZ]

Pacifist I think you're incredibly talented! ****, I wouldn't be able to do this... Would you be able to make some Topre keys that fit the FN row?

[Pacifist]

Update:

Just wanted to let everybody know that the custom caps will be made starting in a week when summer vacation starts. I'll try to do all the custom orders and then make a bunch in premade colors. I will be able to do a rainbow of colors, and if I can't mix around to get your color, I will let you know, and you can change your colors.

I will be working on some handmade original designs. I am highly open to suggestions, if there's anything you want to see, I will consider the design and potentially make a bunch.

Pacifist I think you're incredibly talented! ****, I wouldn't be able to do this... Would you be able to make some Topre keys that fit the FN row?

Fn topre keys are going to be made in about a week, along with topre Esc row. In addition, alps top row and BS caps will be made. Topre, alps, and BS will all be available only as blanks and will be in custom colors only at first.

I posted this in your duds thread already, but what's the turn around looking like on custom layered-color caps right now?

I have a sexy combo in mind.

Two to three weeks at this point. Just fill out the form and I will send invoices when the cap is ready.

[Kayla]

Do you have a quote on the previous post made by a member that said he recieved a cap he purchased from you that arrived dirty and with shine?

Im curious if you have good pictures of your caps. I like the soft pink, blue, red, cream colored blanks and capped colors that are not already consistant with caps like Julysicle and such (wouldnt want a proxy.. would order something original).. but I havent seen any actual good pictures of your finished produts. The one picture you do have looks like someone chewed at the bottom or ran it across pavement.

Im curious if your process has improved since that picture.

[Pacifist]

Do you have a quote on the previous post made by a member that said he recieved a cap he purchased from you that arrived dirty and with shine?

Im curious if you have good pictures of your caps. I like the soft pink, blue, red, cream colored blanks and capped colors that are not already consistant with caps like Julysicle and such (wouldnt want a proxy.. would order something original).. but I havent seen any actual good pictures of your finished produts. The one picture you do have looks like someone chewed at the bottom or ran it across pavement.

Im curious if your process has improved since that picture.

I don't have a quote on that because I don't remember it. And frankly that's impossible, because apart from the initial stem fit tests I do, I don't use the cap.

I don't really like to document my caps, but in terms of colors, I can mix colors and get most colors people want.

The only cap pictured was actually my first 2 color cap, and I did not bother to sand down the edges because I wasn't going to sell it.

Apart from sanding, my process hasn't changed much, because at that point I figured out a way to avoid big air bubbles consistently without expensive equipment.

[MTManiac]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

[Pacifist]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

[BunnyLake]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

his post is not off topic, he is asking the OP a question pertaining to what he is doing

[BunnyLake]

Do you have a quote on the previous post made by a member that said he recieved a cap he purchased from you that arrived dirty and with shine?

Im curious if you have good pictures of your caps. I like the soft pink, blue, red, cream colored blanks and capped colors that are not already consistant with caps like Julysicle and such (wouldnt want a proxy.. would order something original).. but I havent seen any actual good pictures of your finished produts. The one picture you do have looks like someone chewed at the bottom or ran it across pavement.

Im curious if your process has improved since that picture.

I don't have a quote on that because I don't remember it. And frankly that's impossible, because apart from the initial stem fit tests I do, I don't use the cap.

I don't really like to document my caps, but in terms of colors, I can mix colors and get most colors people want.

The only cap pictured was actually my first 2 color cap, and I did not bother to sand down the edges because I wasn't going to sell it.

Apart from sanding, my process hasn't changed much, because at that point I figured out a way to avoid big air bubbles consistently without expensive equipment.

i think if the op refuses to photograph and document his work, people should think twice about paying for it, much like the classifieds, artisans should post clear pics of what they have for sale

[Pacifist]

Do you have a quote on the previous post made by a member that said he recieved a cap he purchased from you that arrived dirty and with shine?

Im curious if you have good pictures of your caps. I like the soft pink, blue, red, cream colored blanks and capped colors that are not already consistant with caps like Julysicle and such (wouldnt want a proxy.. would order something original).. but I havent seen any actual good pictures of your finished produts. The one picture you do have looks like someone chewed at the bottom or ran it across pavement.

Im curious if your process has improved since that picture.

I don't have a quote on that because I don't remember it. And frankly that's impossible, because apart from the initial stem fit tests I do, I don't use the cap.

I don't really like to document my caps, but in terms of colors, I can mix colors and get most colors people want.

The only cap pictured was actually my first 2 color cap, and I did not bother to sand down the edges because I wasn't going to sell it.

Apart from sanding, my process hasn't changed much, because at that point I figured out a way to avoid big air bubbles consistently without expensive equipment.

i think if the op refuses to photograph and document his work, people should think twice about paying for it, much like the classifieds, artisans should post clear pics of what they have for sale

First, please edit your first post to accommodate this one, as you have just doubleposted.

Second, I took pictures of the items I sold in the only sale I had, the dud sale, which was solely for selling damaged caps at super cheap prices.

Third, I have not actually sold anything in this specific thread yet, so I don't see why you are so butthurt over this. I am still taking orders, and as I have already said many times, I will not sell anything until I make sure it is structurally stable, and then the buyer will get an invoice. I have not sent out any invoices yet, and as thus do not need to post pictures yet.

And please, think twice before choosing your colors, because I don't want to spend hours making a cap to only discard it because you changed your mind. 

[BunnyLake]

Do you have a quote on the previous post made by a member that said he recieved a cap he purchased from you that arrived dirty and with shine?

Im curious if you have good pictures of your caps. I like the soft pink, blue, red, cream colored blanks and capped colors that are not already consistant with caps like Julysicle and such (wouldnt want a proxy.. would order something original).. but I havent seen any actual good pictures of your finished produts. The one picture you do have looks like someone chewed at the bottom or ran it across pavement.

Im curious if your process has improved since that picture.

I don't have a quote on that because I don't remember it. And frankly that's impossible, because apart from the initial stem fit tests I do, I don't use the cap.

I don't really like to document my caps, but in terms of colors, I can mix colors and get most colors people want.

The only cap pictured was actually my first 2 color cap, and I did not bother to sand down the edges because I wasn't going to sell it.

Apart from sanding, my process hasn't changed much, because at that point I figured out a way to avoid big air bubbles consistently without expensive equipment.

i think if the op refuses to photograph and document his work, people should think twice about paying for it, much like the classifieds, artisans should post clear pics of what they have for sale

First, please edit your first post to accommodate this one, as you have just doubleposted.

Second, I took pictures of the items I sold in the only sale I had, the dud sale, which was solely for selling damaged caps at super cheap prices.

Third, I have not actually sold anything in this specific thread yet, so I don't see why you are so butthurt over this. I am still taking orders, and as I have already said many times, I will not sell anything until I make sure it is structurally stable, and then the buyer will get an invoice. I have not sent out any invoices yet, and as thus do not need to post pictures yet.

And please, think twice before choosing your colors, because I don't want to spend hours making a cap to only discard it because you changed your mind.

im thinking real hard about my colours, my colour choice is the only thing holding back all my orders

[SpAmRaY]

Do you have a quote on the previous post made by a member that said he recieved a cap he purchased from you that arrived dirty and with shine?

Im curious if you have good pictures of your caps. I like the soft pink, blue, red, cream colored blanks and capped colors that are not already consistant with caps like Julysicle and such (wouldnt want a proxy.. would order something original).. but I havent seen any actual good pictures of your finished produts. The one picture you do have looks like someone chewed at the bottom or ran it across pavement.

Im curious if your process has improved since that picture.

I don't have a quote on that because I don't remember it. And frankly that's impossible, because apart from the initial stem fit tests I do, I don't use the cap.

I don't really like to document my caps, but in terms of colors, I can mix colors and get most colors people want.

The only cap pictured was actually my first 2 color cap, and I did not bother to sand down the edges because I wasn't going to sell it.

Apart from sanding, my process hasn't changed much, because at that point I figured out a way to avoid big air bubbles consistently without expensive equipment.

i think if the op refuses to photograph and document his work, people should think twice about paying for it, much like the classifieds, artisans should post clear pics of what they have for sale

First, please edit your first post to accommodate this one, as you have just doubleposted.

Second, I took pictures of the items I sold in the only sale I had, the dud sale, which was solely for selling damaged caps at super cheap prices.

Third, I have not actually sold anything in this specific thread yet, so I don't see why you are so butthurt over this. I am still taking orders, and as I have already said many times, I will not sell anything until I make sure it is structurally stable, and then the buyer will get an invoice. I have not sent out any invoices yet, and as thus do not need to post pictures yet.

And please, think twice before choosing your colors, because I don't want to spend hours making a cap to only discard it because you changed your mind.

im thinking real hard about my colours, my colour choice is the only thing holding back all my orders

[BunnyLake]

[Pacifist]

for grown ass men you look at memes way too much

[hwood34]

memes are ageless

[strafe]

New avatar incoming

[MTManiac]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. It was hard to dig thru all the **** to figure out what exactly you were selling.

Do you have a color chart?

[Pacifist]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. It was hard to dig thru all the **** to figure out what exactly you were selling.

Do you have a color chart?

name a color, I will try my best to create it. If I can't, I will let you know and you can change your colors accordingly

[hwood34]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. It was hard to dig thru all the **** to figure out what exactly you were selling.

Do you have a color chart?

Or you could like, you know, check the OP

[Pacifist]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. It was hard to dig thru all the **** to figure out what exactly you were selling.

Do you have a color chart?

Or you could like, you know, check the OP

I try to keep the OP as updated as possible, so check there for all the important info

[Dubsgalore]

Am I still on the ban list?

[JinDesu]

Submitted an order. Looking forward to the result.

[MTManiac]

I am confused... Obviously there is a market for quality hand crafted key caps.
If you have the skills, materials, and time to make them, why would you intentionally piss off X% of a market with shenanigans like this?
If the time spent making parodies was spent creating original designs, you'd be ten times as rich and popular in half the time.
/boggle

Please refrain from posting off topic remarks. This thread is for selling my custom colored blank keycaps where one can choose three colors to be used in a blank keycap, not to threadcrap.

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. It was hard to dig thru all the **** to figure out what exactly you were selling.

Do you have a color chart?

Or you could like, you know, check the OP

I try to keep the OP as updated as possible, so check there for all the important info

Thanks, I was asking because it would be easier to pick a predesignated color vs asking you to remake (and waste $) by matching a color exactly.
I will need some time to think, but color me interested