Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 06:53:59
White Wolf will be put on hold due to actions beyond our control. GMK has decided not to run it, despite running the design through a copyright lawyer, who gave me the all clear. We will respect their decision and evaluate how to move forward.
Or as Geralt would say... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLW6o6zQfg)
I would also like to personally thank Garret from Dixie Mech — he has been wonderfully supportive of the whole set, expanding the kits composition, and has tried to move heaven and earth to make it happen.
Group buy news!
I am proud to announce that we have a final list of vendors for GMK White Wolf 🐺...
- USA → Dixie Mech
- EU → MyKeyboard.eu
- Oceania → DailyClack
- Asia → ILUMKB
The group buy for GMK White Wolf 🐺 will commence on September 4th and end on October 2nd. Stay tuned for more news, coming soon to a tavern near you.
Hi again!
I hope you're all staying safe during the lockdown (if it applies to you). Personally, it finally got me to finish off a set I started many months ago and I'd like to show you what I came up with.
Inspiration
I first picked up Mr Andrzej Sapkowski's book, titled "Sword of Destiny", some 26 years ago, and quickly devoured all the others. It didn't take long to have to wait for him to publish his newer titles. It was Mr Sapkowski, with the help of J.R.R. Tolkien, who got me hooked on fantasy fiction. Since then I have gone through many other authors and I'm currently consuming Brandon Sanderson's works, but Geralt, Yennefer, Jaskier, and especially Ciri, have always held a special place in my heart and mind. Three of the latter characters inspired me to bring GMK White Wolf to life.
Kits
Gwynbleidd
(https://i.imgur.com/PVL2DuJ.jpg)
I tried to keep Gwynbleidd — the core kit — as light as possible, while still offering coverage for as many boards as possible. I also included three novelties (two are pictured, the third will be an ISO Enter sword novelty) in it for a number of reasons. Firstly, I wanted the people who only get the core kit to get in on the novelty fun, and secondly, I wanted to differentiate it from the similar kits out there.
This kit has been updated in the meantime (render coming later). See changes in the KLE mockup below.
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Zireael
Zireael — the novelty kit — consists of 10 light grey on dark grey novelties, which are inspired by Geralt's Signs — Aard, Axii, Quen, Igni, and Yrden. I have also added the novelties from the core kit in a reversed colourway — dark greys on light grey keys — and included two coloured sets. The latter consist of two R1 novelty keys each (signifying the ladies' symbols), arrows, and Enter keys. The colours are inspired by Ciri's and Yennefer's eyes. Finally, there are some new text novelties, including R1 1u "Hmm", R1 2u "****", and R3 1.5u "Roach". The regular Enter key should be light grey, not white (render error).
Version 3 — "Dots" Design
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Version 4 — "Circle" Design
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— Witcher Signs are made using the casters fingers, which the dots/circles are meant to represent.
— The lines connect the dots/circles, suggesting how a specific Sign is cast.
— The dots are also a tribute to mechanical keyboards (PCB holes specifically).
— The dots/circles could are also slightly reminiscent of constellations, hence trying to forge a connection with the stars, and magic in turn.
— The spaces between the dots/circles and lines are also in line with that Sword novelty.
Since I have proposed 2 slightly different designs (I am partial to one of them!), I would love to hear some feedback from you guys. Please take part in this new poll and vote for your favourite design:
GMK White Wolf Zireael Novelty Design Poll (https://forms.gle/wuQDMhFRKz9L2vjg6)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/PbfQngA.jpg)
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Obsidian
(https://i.imgur.com/9KpF7jq.jpg)
Error during rendering: there will be an additional “B” for Alice users in this kit!
Obsidian — the Spacebars Kit — is designed to complement both the core kit, as well as the novelty kit. It contains 6u (off-centre and centered), accented 6.25u and 7u, as well as split Spacebars (1.25u, 2u, 2.25u, 2,75u). There's also an additional B key for Alice-like layouts.
This kit has been updated in the meantime (render coming later). See changes in the KLE mockup below.
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Sihill
Sihill — the Alternative (Silver) Alphas Kit — was added as per the request of many people who asked for it in the IC form. I have skipped the silver numpad to keep the price of this kit acceptable.
Renders
(https://i.imgur.com/1tL3AJP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5eMDZ84.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5vs86O4.jpg)
Naturally I chose Gok's 7V to show-off this set, mainly because I want one myself. It looks like I'll be going for the grey one!
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Interest Check Form
Please follow the link below and fill out the IC form, if this is a set you're interested in buying. Thank you!
Please fill out the GMK White Wolf IC Form → https://forms.gle/kzvk5GYvazAPX1Mq5 (https://forms.gle/kzvk5GYvazAPX1Mq5)
GMK White Wolf on Discord → https://discord.gg/HqH5YG7 (https://discord.gg/HqH5YG7)
GMK White Wolf on my Instagram → (https://instagram.com/moridinskeyboards)
Post by: pngu on Sun, 12 April 2020, 06:54:16
Edit: I quite like this. ne NorDeUk kit avail?
Post by: Gondolindrim on Sun, 12 April 2020, 06:55:12
Maybe we can get more renders with the Zireael kit?
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 12 April 2020, 06:56:51
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Post by: crusader_alex on Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:00:25
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:04:52
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I love the theme!
Maybe we can get more renders with the Zireael kit?
I will commission more renders if this set garners enough interest! I will do some specific novelty kit layouts on those.
I am so in for this
❤️
I quite like this. ne NorDeUk kit avail?
I once tried to do NorDEUK because 150+ people declared they would get it. When the set went to GB stage, only 28 people ordered it. MOQ is set at 100.
I'm not saying no, but it's unlikely there will be enough sales to warrant creating this set.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:16:52
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:29:49
What's the dark grey like relative to N9?
Post by: Bl4ck on Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:30:17
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:44:36
No chance on it being KAT ahahah?
Not "today", sorry.
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:25:51
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:45:40
Will the ISO Enter novelty sport TWO swords?
R3 \|, yadda yadda yadda.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:53:03
Post by: ttom on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:57:55
Post by: joonia on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:59:55
Post by: breckstar on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:00:48
Post by: alper_maestro on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:14:03
This is what I was waiting for.
Post by: alper_maestro on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:22:43
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.
Post by: rfbabeheer on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:23:46
Post by: huey on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:28:21
As for the actual set, it's a really solid mono set and I like the duller contrast. The novelties are actually really well done, though I disagree with them being in the base kit. Would like to see the colours used to be mentioned too. That being said, this will do well!
Pob lwc!
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:52:15
Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.
Considering this if there is enough demand. I did want this GB to be simple and cheap though, especially after Lunar.
I kinda wish you called the whole thing Gwynbleidd. I think this is the first time Welsh is being used in a keyboard GB and it's got me feeling all sorts of patriotism.
As for the actual set, it's a really solid mono set and I like the duller contrast. The novelties are actually really well done, though I disagree with them being in the base kit. Would like to see the colours used to be mentioned too. That being said, this will do well!
Pob lwc!
That was the original name I came up with but went with White Wolf for a number of reasons.
any normal accent esc and enter keys avail?
Considering this, although more keys will up the cost of the sets. Trying to make this as affordable as possible, while keeping it robust.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:53:16
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:59:22
Speaking of PgUp/PgDn, it'd be cool to rearrange the Sign novelties so they can be used as those keys (resembling up/down arrows), for both R2/R3 and R3/R4 setups. Something like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/hjrOc29.png)
Considering the fantasy setting, Super would fit better than Code, imo. :)
How about Scroll instead of Lock?
R3 \|, R4 <> would be better than R3 #~, R4 \| since the set doesn't have the rest of the UK ISO support.
Post by: Zedd_alpha on Sun, 12 April 2020, 10:05:23
love novelties
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 12 April 2020, 10:35:46
For the record: using N9 keys with 2M legends. Accents are DY and TU1.
N9, 2M. I asked on reddit and cheated and looked at the colors of Lunar
Thanks! I guess no mixing & matching between the two sets then.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sun, 12 April 2020, 10:38:33
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Post by: directheatedtriode on Sun, 12 April 2020, 10:43:25
I kinda wish you called the whole thing Gwynbleidd. I think this is the first time Welsh is being used in a keyboard GB and it's got me feeling all sorts of patriotism.
As for the actual set, it's a really solid mono set and I like the duller contrast. The novelties are actually really well done, though I disagree with them being in the base kit. Would like to see the colours used to be mentioned too. That being said, this will do well!
Pob lwc!
Oh hey, born in Swansea here ;D
I'm interested in this set depending on the cost. I was personally put off by the high cost of Lunar and had to skip it. IDK Numpad plus UK ISO in a separate kit has always been my preference if that means keeping cost down, I imagine there are many of us that have no use for either :blank:
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 12 April 2020, 10:48:16
Post by: DJSwayde on Sun, 12 April 2020, 11:23:13
Post by: Eddie_Caps on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:02:55
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:15:12
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:22:57
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG/800px-Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG)
That particular layout doesn’t differ from US QWERTY in any visible way except for those sub legends, so it wouldn’t add keys to the kit.
Post by: alper_maestro on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:33:36
Also, since we are celebrating a Polish author with this set, maybe the base alphas could use the sub legends of the Polish Programmer’s QWERTY?Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG/800px-Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG)
That particular layout doesn’t differ from US QWERTY in any visible way except for those sub legends, so it wouldn’t add keys to the kit.
Maybe interesting for Polish people as a seperate kit, hopefully not as a standard layout. ;)
But it would be interested to see a language that the Witcher speaks to add that as sub legends?
Post by: alper_maestro on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:35:50
Any ideas for a matching Mousepad as also an usb cable for the keyboard? (spacecables for example)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:36:28
Post by: utsukishi on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:01:58
this set ticks off all the boxes for me, this will be a personal must have!
a quick question would be, since the numpad matches the exact color of gmk lunar, would it be better to differentiate it some way or maybe move it from the base kit?
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:12:54
Post by: mrpetrov on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:37:45
Is the legend color planned to be the same as any other grey-themed sets we've seen recently (apollo, ashes, ascii, oblivion, nines (?) etc etc)?
EDIT: sorry i missed that this has already been answered.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:51:21
Would you consider adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, please? Based on popularity, I'd say it'd be more worthwhile than, say, 2× 1.5u Code and extra 1u Alt, or numpad 00.
Speaking of PgUp/PgDn, it'd be cool to rearrange the Sign novelties so they can be used as those keys (resembling up/down arrows), for both R2/R3 and R3/R4 setups. Something like this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hjrOc29.png)
Considering the fantasy setting, Super would fit better than Code, imo. :)
How about Scroll instead of Lock?
R3 \|, R4 <> would be better than R3 #~, R4 \| since the set doesn't have the rest of the UK ISO support.
I have had a few requests to remake the novelties so they can be used as arrow keys and better fit Home/End/PgUp/PgDn. I might rework them.
I like the Scroll and Super suggestions. Will incorporate those.
Post by: TuckTuckFloof on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:52:48
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:53:02
I kinda wish you called the whole thing Gwynbleidd. I think this is the first time Welsh is being used in a keyboard GB and it's got me feeling all sorts of patriotism.
As for the actual set, it's a really solid mono set and I like the duller contrast. The novelties are actually really well done, though I disagree with them being in the base kit. Would like to see the colours used to be mentioned too. That being said, this will do well!
Pob lwc!
Oh hey, born in Swansea here ;D
I'm interested in this set depending on the cost. I was personally put off by the high cost of Lunar and had to skip it. IDK Numpad plus UK ISO in a separate kit has always been my preference if that means keeping cost down, I imagine there are many of us that have no use for either :blank:
I’m trying to get the base as close as possible to 99 USD while keeping it on theme at the same time.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 13:59:33
WHEW,
this set ticks off all the boxes for me, this will be a personal must have!
a quick question would be, since the numpad matches the exact color of gmk lunar, would it be better to differentiate it some way or maybe move it from the base kit?
I could put the NumPad in a separate kit but the base kit’s price would drop by like 5-7 USD while a separate NumPad would close around 30-40 USD.
Any ideas for a matching Mousepad as also an usb cable for the keyboard? (spacecables for example)
No designs yet but they’ll be done.
Wait. Your description says extra B for Alice but it’s not in the render. I would also like to see 1u convex space key in the spacebar kit.
Render error! Will fix later.
Do you have any charts or KLE links to provide the exact sizing and row of each key in each kit?
Not at the moment but I can get this done later.
What are the color codes?
N9, 2M, DY, TU1.
Also, since we are celebrating a Polish author with this set, maybe the base alphas could use the sub legends of the Polish Programmer’s QWERTY?Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG/800px-Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG)
That particular layout doesn’t differ from US QWERTY in any visible way except for those sub legends, so it wouldn’t add keys to the kit.
They would raise the price though. I don’t think GMK has moulds for those. So at least 15 USD on base added.
Really dig the color. I know you said the tone is different from GMK Nines, but as someone who already bought Nines, I would love to see a color comparison side-by-side of White Wolf and Nines. So, I can have a better understanding on the color. :thumb:
I’ll try to get this done but you can just look at the photos of GMK’s colour ring and compare N9/U9 with N9/2M. U9 is beige-y, warm. 2M is silvery and cold.
I would auto buy if there was a Roach text novelty.
Which key? 😅
Post by: chowbabyloving on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:00:01
I kinda wish you called the whole thing Gwynbleidd. I think this is the first time Welsh is being used in a keyboard GB and it's got me feeling all sorts of patriotism.
As for the actual set, it's a really solid mono set and I like the duller contrast. The novelties are actually really well done, though I disagree with them being in the base kit. Would like to see the colours used to be mentioned too. That being said, this will do well!
Pob lwc!
Oh hey, born in Swansea here ;D
I'm interested in this set depending on the cost. I was personally put off by the high cost of Lunar and had to skip it. IDK Numpad plus UK ISO in a separate kit has always been my preference if that means keeping cost down, I imagine there are many of us that have no use for either :blank:
I’m trying to get the base as close as possible to 99 USD while keeping it on theme at the same time.
I also think it would be helpful to keep cost low by cutting out numpad and offering it as a separate kit.
With the fluctuations in the world economy, I know we here in Canada would appreciate it if you were willing to have a Canadian vendor or proxy like deskhero involved.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:00:14
Quick question: Will there be dots and will they be accent, or mod colored?
Dots?
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:01:39
With the fluctuations in the world economy, I know we here in Canada would appreciate it if you were willing to have a Canadian vendor or proxy like deskhero involved.
This will probably not depend on me, but on the US vendor/proxy.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:06:35
Now I want it on the iso enter. Roach rearing up, geralt on his back.I would auto buy if there was a Roach text novelty.
Which key?
Post by: Eddie_Caps on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:11:23
I would auto buy if there was a Roach text novelty.
Which key? 😅
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My preference would be row 4 1.25
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 15:18:07
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 April 2020, 15:56:15
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 12 April 2020, 16:23:38
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 April 2020, 16:25:48
Couldn't we have just ran a novelty kit for nines?
The Witcher hair color really is 2M though. Given the happenings in the MinimaII thread I'm not sure Emir would be up for it either.
Post by: travwal on Sun, 12 April 2020, 16:55:51
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 17:12:33
Couldn't we have just ran a novelty kit for nines?
The Witcher hair color really is 2M though. Given the happenings in the MinimaII thread I'm not sure Emir would be up for it either.
U9 does not fit this theme at all unfortunately.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 April 2020, 17:46:53
I'm sure youve got a milliion novelty ideas right now, but if Netflix Witcher Nilfgaardian armor texture gamer sets isn't the worst idea someone's shared with you, I've love to hear what's number one.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 18:04:24
I like it how you have it.
I'm sure youve got a milliion novelty ideas right now, but if Netflix Witcher Nilfgaardian armor texture gamer sets isn't the worst idea someone's shared with you, I've love to hear what's number one.
“Netflix Witcher Nilfgaardian are our texture gamer” is not something I would have ever expected to read. 😅 I don’t quite understand what it means either.
If you’re referring to reworking novelties, I’ll share soon. Light bulbs in my mind, not yet fully formed.
Post by: Starlight-Dawn on Sun, 12 April 2020, 18:44:17
A huge fan of the Witcher series. Thank you for making this into reality.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 April 2020, 18:54:51
The left was the armor in the game. The right was the armor in the show, which was widely panned and the subject of several memes.
Under no circumstances should you actually use any of the armor on the right as inspiration for a non-meme set
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 12 April 2020, 19:11:38
also toss a coin to your witcherrrrr!!!! (please have a coin novelty)
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 19:27:16
I have had a few requests to remake the novelties so they can be used as arrow keys and better fit Home/End/PgUp/PgDn. I might rework them.
I like the Scroll and Super suggestions. Will incorporate those.
For what it's worth, I think the Sign novelties look kickass as right column keys, but don't think they would work as arrows.
A setup like this would be good (highly versatile and every sign shows up twice):
(https://i.imgur.com/RFMOsOK.png) (Home) (https://i.imgur.com/GmKzxCz.png) (Del, PrtSc)
(https://i.imgur.com/MS17WEg.png) (PgUp) (https://i.imgur.com/AXKPDU5.png) (End, Del)
(https://i.imgur.com/bJ5NZZE.png) (PgDn) (https://i.imgur.com/MS17WEg.png) (PgUp)
(https://i.imgur.com/AXKPDU5.png) (End) (https://i.imgur.com/bJ5NZZE.png) (PgDn)
(https://i.imgur.com/gNZm6Ia.png) (Super) (https://i.imgur.com/4Ihj9Bv.png) (Super, Fn)
Post by: fropsie on Sun, 12 April 2020, 21:18:23
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:01:58
Since you didn't answer on reddit. Has CDPR given you permission to use the witcher signs in the novelty kit or not? Otherwise I believe you better think about doing something about that...
I'm not finding any info online which would indicate that all of "signs" symbols are copyrighted. While this certainly doesn't mean they are not copyrighted, it seems a little unlikely IMO. I'm not an expert, but copyrighting every symbol and icon used in series would be very tedious... you're talking hundreds upon hundred of copyrights. Have to draw the line somewhere, right?
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Post by: dom on Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:40:04
I'm not finding any info online which would indicate that all of "signs" symbols are copyrighted. While this certainly doesn't mean they are not copyrighted, it seems a little unlikely IMO. I'm not an expert, but copyrighting every symbol and icon used in series would be very tedious... you're talking hundreds upon hundred of copyrights. Have to draw the line somewhere, right?
I would be careful with that. The guys who run Netflix want a return from the investment, they will claim every abuse of their rights.
This is the official "The Witcher" logo, copyrighted for sure, and you can easily see the similarities in most aspects between the two (screenshot below).
For a non-commercial project, it would be more ok'sh.
In this case, were $$$ showing up, it's totally different story.
So I would be careful ;)
Good luck anyway!
(https://i.imgur.com/1R883a9.jpg)
Post by: fropsie on Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:45:01
Since you didn't answer on reddit. Has CDPR given you permission to use the witcher signs in the novelty kit or not? Otherwise I believe you better think about doing something about that...
I'm not finding any info online which would indicate that all of "signs" symbols are copyrighted. While this certainly doesn't mean they are not copyrighted, it seems a little unlikely IMO. I'm not an expert, but copyrighting every symbol and icon used in series would be very tedious... you're talking hundreds upon hundred of copyrights. Have to draw the line somewhere, right?
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While i would normally agree with you, these symbols are VERY popular in the game series. Although not every icon may be copyrighted, as I do understand it is quite tedious of a process, the Witcher Signs are of incredible significance in the games, and are an overall well known item of the game series. By "taking" art that is used through all 4 of the games (including Gwent in that), even a request for permission to use the logos should be adequate enough. Considering what happened with GMK Rudy with the use of the Notre Dame clover, this is just as risky, and CDPR is a company that is far more strict with their IP. After months of minor contact with CDPR (Wanted to run a set by the name of GMK White Wolf as well and had been planning it for the last 3 months) they seem to be pretty strong on their IP. I would just give a heads up to the designer of this set to at least try to get permission before taking the logos and essentially making money off of CDPRs IP.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:58:28
A part of me wants to believe this hobby is far enough out of the mainstream that these GBs with their IP will go undetected... but I guess where there is money to be made, these companies will find it.Since you didn't answer on reddit. Has CDPR given you permission to use the witcher signs in the novelty kit or not? Otherwise I believe you better think about doing something about that...
I'm not finding any info online which would indicate that all of "signs" symbols are copyrighted. While this certainly doesn't mean they are not copyrighted, it seems a little unlikely IMO. I'm not an expert, but copyrighting every symbol and icon used in series would be very tedious... you're talking hundreds upon hundred of copyrights. Have to draw the line somewhere, right?
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While i would normally agree with you, these symbols are VERY popular in the game series. Although not every icon may be copyrighted, as I do understand it is quite tedious of a process, the Witcher Signs are of incredible significance in the games, and are an overall well known item of the game series. By "taking" art that is used through all 4 of the games (including Gwent in that), even a request for permission to use the logos should be adequate enough. Considering what happened with GMK Rudy with the use of the Notre Dame clover, this is just as risky, and CDPR is a company that is far more strict with their IP. After months of minor contact with CDPR (Wanted to run a set by the name of GMK White Wolf as well and had been planning it for the last 3 months) they seem to be pretty strong on their IP. I would just give a heads up to the designer of this set to at least try to get permission before taking the logos and essentially making money off of CDPRs IP.
I had not heard about Rudy. That's unfortunate. It makes me wonder if other GBs with well-known IP (like DSA Galactic Empire and the multiple groups making Pokemon artisans) got permission or if they've just been lucky.
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Post by: fropsie on Mon, 13 April 2020, 00:01:18
A part of me wants to believe this hobby is far enough out of the mainstream that these GBs with their IP will go undetected... but I guess where there is money to be made, these companies will find it.Since you didn't answer on reddit. Has CDPR given you permission to use the witcher signs in the novelty kit or not? Otherwise I believe you better think about doing something about that...
I'm not finding any info online which would indicate that all of "signs" symbols are copyrighted. While this certainly doesn't mean they are not copyrighted, it seems a little unlikely IMO. I'm not an expert, but copyrighting every symbol and icon used in series would be very tedious... you're talking hundreds upon hundred of copyrights. Have to draw the line somewhere, right?
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While i would normally agree with you, these symbols are VERY popular in the game series. Although not every icon may be copyrighted, as I do understand it is quite tedious of a process, the Witcher Signs are of incredible significance in the games, and are an overall well known item of the game series. By "taking" art that is used through all 4 of the games (including Gwent in that), even a request for permission to use the logos should be adequate enough. Considering what happened with GMK Rudy with the use of the Notre Dame clover, this is just as risky, and CDPR is a company that is far more strict with their IP. After months of minor contact with CDPR (Wanted to run a set by the name of GMK White Wolf as well and had been planning it for the last 3 months) they seem to be pretty strong on their IP. I would just give a heads up to the designer of this set to at least try to get permission before taking the logos and essentially making money off of CDPRs IP.
I had not heard about Rudy. That's unfortunate. It makes me wonder if other GBs with well-known IP (like DSA Galactic Empire and the multiple groups making Pokemon artisans) got permission or if they've just been lucky.
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DSA Galactic Empire was a licensed Starwars set. That is why it costs so much money even for a SP DSA keycap set.
Post by: Jsdfbn on Mon, 13 April 2020, 03:00:02
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Post by: Moridin on Mon, 13 April 2020, 08:10:11
Since you didn't answer on reddit. Has CDPR given you permission to use the witcher signs in the novelty kit or not? Otherwise I believe you better think about doing something about that...
I will not publicly discuss any licensing agreements at this time, until they are or aren’t finalised. Please let me worry about the copyrights.
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 13 April 2020, 13:50:22
Also, since we are celebrating a Polish author with this set, maybe the base alphas could use the sub legends of the Polish Programmer’s QWERTY?Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG/800px-Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG)
That particular layout doesn’t differ from US QWERTY in any visible way except for those sub legends, so it wouldn’t add keys to the kit.
They would raise the price though. I don’t think GMK has moulds for those. So at least 15 USD on base added.
It might be worth asking if they have those or something very similar for Polish keyboards. I imagine GMK does enough global business that they may have legends already created for a country that is literally right next door.
Post by: nasp on Tue, 14 April 2020, 00:47:57
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 14 April 2020, 02:33:59
Also, since we are celebrating a Polish author with this set, maybe the base alphas could use the sub legends of the Polish Programmer’s QWERTY?Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG/800px-Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG)
That particular layout doesn’t differ from US QWERTY in any visible way except for those sub legends, so it wouldn’t add keys to the kit.
They would raise the price though. I don’t think GMK has moulds for those. So at least 15 USD on base added.
It might be worth asking if they have those or something very similar for Polish keyboards. I imagine GMK does enough global business that they may have legends already created for a country that is literally right next door.
If I were to add any Polish accents to honour Mr Sapkowksi, I’d probably prefer a flag to PL characters which would be most likely hated by most people.
Any board renders with the accents avail?
I will get more renders soon.
Also, IC form numbers are the 😈.
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Post by: Moridin on Tue, 14 April 2020, 02:35:19
(https://i.imgur.com/9KpF7jq.jpg)
So what if I dropped the accented 7u Spacebars and added a few accented split bars instead?
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Post by: directheatedtriode on Tue, 14 April 2020, 10:39:27
I kinda wish you called the whole thing Gwynbleidd. I think this is the first time Welsh is being used in a keyboard GB and it's got me feeling all sorts of patriotism.
As for the actual set, it's a really solid mono set and I like the duller contrast. The novelties are actually really well done, though I disagree with them being in the base kit. Would like to see the colours used to be mentioned too. That being said, this will do well!
Pob lwc!
Oh hey, born in Swansea here ;D
I'm interested in this set depending on the cost. I was personally put off by the high cost of Lunar and had to skip it. IDK Numpad plus UK ISO in a separate kit has always been my preference if that means keeping cost down, I imagine there are many of us that have no use for either :blank:
I’m trying to get the base as close as possible to 99 USD while keeping it on theme at the same time.
Amazing, thank you :-*
I have had a few requests to remake the novelties so they can be used as arrow keys and better fit Home/End/PgUp/PgDn. I might rework them.
I like the Scroll and Super suggestions. Will incorporate those.
For what it's worth, I think the Sign novelties look kickass as right column keys, but don't think they would work as arrows.
A setup like this would be good (highly versatile and every sign shows up twice):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RFMOsOK.png)(Home)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GmKzxCz.png)(Del, PrtSc)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MS17WEg.png)(PgUp)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AXKPDU5.png)(End, Del)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bJ5NZZE.png)(PgDn)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MS17WEg.png)(PgUp)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AXKPDU5.png)(End)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bJ5NZZE.png)(PgDn)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gNZm6Ia.png)(Super)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4Ihj9Bv.png)(Super, Fn)
I really like this idea as well.
Post by: socalmitch on Tue, 14 April 2020, 11:38:40
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 06:58:41
You sent me a ton of feedback and I actually tried to go through it all. Replies to the most common or controversial feedback below.
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I would love to see more novelties!
I could add more novelties, but this would raise the price of the novelty kit. Trying to keep both things balanced as much as possible. Will reconsider after getting a price quote from GMK.
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split numpad and iso to a separate kit to make the base kit cheaper
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I prefer kits with separate numpad so I don’t need to buy that as well, personally
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Please don't split Numpad. I don't understand the thought process of cutting a $10-15 kit when you're already spending $100+. And then asking people that do want Numpad to pay $30-40 is madness to me.
Base kit without a numpad would be 10 USD cheaper but the new numpad kit would cost 30-50 USD, depending if I put ISO in it or not. This will make it much harder for it to hit MOQ.
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Light alphas is needed for those who want to deviate a little from the original design and require more contrast between their modifiers and alphas. :)
Please see my proposed kit below — I'll post it in a few minutes.
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Fewer spacebars in spacebar kit, or put split grey spacebars in base. Love the kit otherwise, it's what I've been looking for!
Again, this is a balance thing. I really want all three colours, for all three characters, to be fully represented in the accents.
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Possible to get a shine-through novelty kit?
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See-through for rgb backlit
GMK does not do shine-through due to the inferior quality of opaque plastic.
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Add keys of all the signs or Witcher schools
This design is focused on Geralt, Yen, and Ciri. I could do a full Witcher set, but I just wanted to focus on on those three with a specific theme I had in mind.
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I'd love to have an Iso NorDe Kit, I was searching for a GMK set with an iso kit with nice colours for a year now :)
I'd love to do NorDEUK but it would have an MOQ of 100 and I forsee 20-50 purchases at most.
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A design on some of the space bars would be nice.
GMK does only pad printing on spacebars. This is not of acceptable quality.
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I really hope there is a deskmat that is created for this because even if I couldn't get the keycaps I would 100% get a deskmat. Something that I think would look cool is doing the symbol design like one of the GMK Lunar deskmats but doing it with the signs. Other than that something like GMK Ashes mat would also be awesome. Good luck man! I hope I can pick one of these up!
There will be a desk mat!
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To add on to my previous response, please consider moving the novelties in base and include more 2M accents to emphasise a little more of the ‘White Wolf’ portion of the set
The base kit without novelties would just be a regular N9/2M set. This is not what I'm going for. If you don't mind a warmer light grey, just pick up GMK Nines. I'd like GMK White Wolf to stand on its own and be unique in a minimalist fashion.
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I'd rather see 1.5u Code keys in the base kit than novelties, which I almost never use. Otherwise, it looks great. Will def check out the White Wolf books, too.
They're there 🙂, although I will change them to "Super".
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Instead of having the one steel sword printed on the enter key, you could have a steel sword on one shift key and a silver sword in the other to make it more true to the Geralt wielding two swords. :) GMK Red Samurai does this with katanas for reference.
I considered this but I won't want to be seen as ripping off GMK Red Samurai's design. More feedback welcome, as usual.
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Would be cool to have a runic silver sword with an angled hilt (V-shaped like the show/game) and the traditional steel sword with a regular hilt as the shifts. That way it fits Geralt with the two sword theme.
Creating more novelties is a delicate act of keeping the theme and price of the kits balanced. I would like this set to be more affordable than my previous ones, especially since our world economy isn't exactly stellar at the moment.
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F-key caps added to Zirael?
Please elaborate.
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A Roach text novelty please!
OK.
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Could you add 1.75 r3 (enter or novelty) key for 40s support (mainly Elise personally but could help other 40s fellas). I'm planning to alternate using this between Rukia and Elise and these caps would complement both perfectly. Tytyty
I have received so many "just add one key" suggestions, that were I to sum them all up, I'd have to add another 20 keys to base. This would raise the price substantially for all of us, while giving benefits to a select few. I really wish GMK had a different structure which would allow for this to be made, but they don't. Sorry. 😞
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For 65%, a R3 PgUp and a R4 PgDn would be nice. An international/nordic kit would also be nice.
What keyboard do you use those keys on, and why? I would suggest just using the novelties instead, so as not to add more keys to base?
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Possibly more novelties overall, definitely more of the 1.25 length for the bottom row.
Considering this.
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It would be cool to have a set with the witcher Elder language on the alphas
This would raise the price of the base kit to over 160 USD.
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On GH you said extra B for Alice but it’s not in the render. Also, I would like to see 1u convex spacekey. I know not all set offers it in spacebar kit and it seems to be 50/50, but for me personally, not having all three space bars being convex really bothers me.
Yeah, error in the render (I missed it when checking) — sorry!
I'll think about the 1u convex spacebar.
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Maybe change the number pad's enter key to use a steel sword icon? It'd be neat to have both since his two swords are so impotant.
I considered this, but again — this will raise the base kit price.
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The teal/blue green accent be a little more bright blue, similar to the in-game Aard teal
I have decided to use stock colours (I'll get a photo of them up soon) so this isn't really possible.
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NORDE kit and its a instant buy for me!
Unfortunately, there are so few NorDEUK kit buyers that its chances of hitting MOQ are very small.
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If you could put Asian/foreign language letters in white underneath the regular letters I’d loveeee it!
I assume you mean something like Katakana. This does not fit the theme, especially since the Witcher has nothing to do with Japanese culture.
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I would like to see icon mods added (preferably to base)
I would too but they don't really fit in well.
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you might want to consider using vendors other the TKC -such as NovelKeys
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that have better MOQ pricing for kits
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Move numpad or get a less expensive vendor. TKC pricing is always on the higher end CONSISTENTLY along with kono, while dixiemech, novelkeys, cannonkeys, TXkeyboards, and others have had much more fair prices. Stock color sets should not be costing 130-160 per kit before shipping.
1. I don't work for TKC but I do have some insight into how my kits were priced. They're not priced higher than other vendors if the kits were exactly the same.
2. TKC chooses to run with more complicated and expensive sets, such as my own GMK Lunar. That set had 77 new moulds and it cost 160 USD and trust me when I say that it was priced competitively.
3. Using Stock, RAL, or Pantone colours has NO EFFECT on price.
4. MOQ has an effect on price but this depends on the results of the IC.
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I love this theme, would definitely buy all kits. Please include colevrak+ support though.
I would love to add Colevrak+ but there's not enough interest for this kit to hit MOQ.
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it'd be cool if there was some sort of design on the space bar, possibly a white version of one of the witchers swords or the 5 main signs (the ones from the game, not the book) lined up
GMK does not do doubleshot spacebars, which leaves pad printing and this is inferior quality.
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I'd love to see the split spacebars in Purple, Teal, and Light grey.
I considered this but that would substantially increase the price of the set.
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Could use kingdom crest colors for accents. Temeria, Nilfgaard, etc...
It would not fit my theme, focusing on three specific characters — Geralt, Yen, and Ciri.
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If the Ciri and Yennefer accents are only available in the novelties kit then they deserve some cool icons instead of the standard Enter arrow. Please make ALL 5 signs available in 1u R1.
I did consider this, but that would require yet more moulds from GMK. I really want the kit to be affordable enough so that more people can enjoy it. I don't think a 100 USD novelty kit would sell well.
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Change the novelty rune keys to match the spell color
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Unlikely to happen but if the signs could be doubleshot with their respective colors in the game (i.e. red symbol for Igni) that would be marvelous.
I considered this but then everything gets a bit... busy. So many colours on a minimalist in nature set. I will think some more if I can come up with some sort of compromise.
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I’d like to make colour change if you are willing to do something like that for me.
Not quite sure what you have in mind but feel free to contact me on here, Discord, or IG.
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Left shift could be "silver" of some kind, maybe for flourish the sign keys could come in colours.
Could you please elaborate?
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Corsair K95 with the 18 G keys on the left side, it's an older board. I'm guessing the keys will fit but I'm concerned regardless
If you get the novelties kit, you'll be covered for this board without problems.
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I would love this if the modifiers, numbers and maybe punctuation had a different color like the blue Purchasable as an additional kit.
Not exactly sure if you mean the keys themselves or just the legends on the keys?
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Subtle runic style lettering!
This would make the base kit very expensive (see above).
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Vim arrows on the HJKL keys
I love VIM arrows and I could do another kit with those, but (1) that would mean a lot of kits and (2) I don't know if the demand is there. Will consider this.
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Maybe adding the other witcher classes as novelty options? Or a gold colorway for Geralts eyes?
I settled on 4 colours — 2M silver (Geralt's hair), N9 dark grey (Geralt's clothes and the overall night theme of his line of work), TU1 teal/blue-ish for Ciri's eyes and DY for Yen's eyes. I would prefer not to add even more colours as they would break the theme of this set.
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Smaller right shift, for 65% layout
Included.
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"Core Kit: It would be nice to slim it down a bit more ~
- no wolf novelty escape
- no sword novelty ansi and iso enters
- no 2m accent arrows
- no 2u shift
- no row 3 1.25u tab
- no 1.5u codes"
I'm trying to balance the base kit to be as usable as possible for as many people as possible, keep the price down, and keep it on theme.
No novelties would just make it a plain N9/2M set.
I don't really have a good place to put the ISO keys in.
Accented arrows will be moved to the novelties set.
2u Shift will remain.
R3 1.25u Tab will remain for those 40s that require it.
1.5u Codes (changed to Supers) will remain for HHKB.
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I don't know if this is too much to ask for, but can you theme the novelties around in game symbols versus the TV show symbols. Huge fan of the books and Witcher 3, but I though the show was really meh. So having yennefer and geralt's necklace pendants from the games instead of the netfilx promotional symbols would be super cool.
Will consider, but not likely.
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All text mods or all icon mods pls, not both
There are a couple of ways to do these. Icons on R1-R3 + R4 text. Text on all. Icons on all. Icons + text on R1-R3. I personally most like the setup I chose but I am considering going all text, so as not to distract from the novelty keys.
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Can you make the arrow keys and last column closer to the main section so it is more compact?
I don't understand — please elaborate what you mean exactly.
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Does the spacebar kit include 2.25u and 2.75u? I don't know by sight what the smaller included space bar sizes are. Might want to include that info for the relative noobs, ty.
Yes. The spacebar kit has: 275 + 225 + 200 + 125, all convex.
I will add sizes to the next set of renders.
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I would love to have a regular ESC keycap in the lighter grey color similar to the arrow keys. Side note, I want the 7V too and was not sure which color to get. This kit definitely is pushing me to get the grey 7V. Thanks!
It will be included in the novelty kit.
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Normal accent keys in the white grey color (2M I believe) add to the base kit. Novelty (sword/wofl) accent keys removed from base kit and move them to the novelties kit. I understand the idea behind having novelty accent keys in base kit of you but honestly it kinda out of place.
Repeated from above: The base kit without novelties would just be a regular N9/2M set. This is not what I'm going for. If you don't mind a warmer light grey, just pick up GMK Nines. I'd like GMK White Wolf to stand on its own and be unique in a minimalist fashion.
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Please include the steel and solver swords somehow in the base kit! Maybe steel on the shift and silver on the enter, or something like that! Oh man that would be so cool.
I would love to add more novelties, but I really want to keep the price balanced.
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expanding the novelties set to include more sizes would be cool, i.e some 1.25u, 1.5u, 1.75u, 2u, 2.25u keys to replace the bottom row mods, shift, caps lock, backspace, etc.
Price would increase substantially but I will consider adding a few more text novelties.
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1. The magic signs need color, like the Oblivion keycap set the signs need their game color.
2. You probably took your inspiration from the Netflix-series but I would want a steel sword. Maybe the right shift?
3. The look of the keyboard is rather minimalistic, I like it, but I also like the blue. This color is amazing. Why does the Zireael Kit not have swords on the enter key?
4. The F keys: I don't use them as much, but I need them sometimes, maybe you can put Game Icons on them, instead of the boring F1, F2, F3, etc. ( https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_3_images_-_Map_icons )
5. I don't know how possible it is, but an iconic line on the space bar would be so cool. Like ""The world doesn't need a hero, it needs a professional"" - Geralt of Rivia. But I don't know if this is too long of so.
6. If the fount is Morpheus, the Letters would look like Witcher, but I think that would destroy the minimalistic look of it.
7. Maybe a Macro-Kit with the Witcher schools on the keys, but I haven't found good school icons, I may be able to help you design them.
So those are just my ideas, maybe not all of them are improvements, but I would be really into such a kit and I would go out of my way to help you.
Re. 1: This could work if they were always in the exact same locations but since these novelties are designed to work on various layouts and keyboards, it makes the whole design look really busy and less attractive.
Re. 2: Inspiration is mostly from the books. See the 1-2 paragraphs from the first post.
Re. 3: Geralt's 2M keys in the novelty kit will have swords. I could add the swords to Ciri's Enters but they don't fit on Yen's. Will consider.
Re. 4: This would increase the price substantially.
Re. 5: GMK doesn't do doubleshot spacebars and pad printing is inferior in terms of quality and durability.
Re. 6: This would require all new moulds and increase the base kit's price to 160+ USD.
Re. 7: I like this idea but not for this set, which I'm trying to keep focused on Geralt, Ciri, and Yen.
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Please incluse a "Hmm" novelty as well! Maybe for the backspace?
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I think you could also get a few chuckles by adding a "****" and a "Hmm" key. ;)
Done.
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Is there a way I can sign up to be notified if/when this set goes up for sale? I don't follow these things closely, but would absolutely hate to miss out on this particular set.
You can follow this set along here:
- Instagram @imoridinskeyboards (https://instagram.com/moridinskeyboards) (https://instagram.com/moridinskeyboards)
- Reddit @ morid1n (https://www.reddit.com/u/morid1n) — I will post updates in r/MechanicalKeyboards and r/Mechmarket
- Geekhack — just subscribe to this thread to receive notifications on updates (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.0)
Cheers everyone and feedback is always welcome!
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 07:25:13
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- Added 2M on N9 Esc
- Added sword on ISO Enter (this will also be on the ISO Enter in the base kit)
- Added 3 text novelties — "Roach" (designed for R3 Caps Lock / Control), "****" (for R1 Backspace), and "Hmm" (for R1 1u, e.g. Esc, F1-13, 1-9, PgUp, Home, etc.)
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Feedback welcome.
Post by: alper_maestro on Fri, 17 April 2020, 08:13:48
Some proposed changes to the novelty kit and a new silver alphas (2M) kit. These are KLE mockups, not full renders. Those will come later.
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- Added 2M on N9 Esc
- Added sword on ISO Enter (this will also be on the ISO Enter in the base kit)
- Added 3 text novelties — "Roach" (designed for R3 Caps Lock / Control), "****" (for R1 Backspace), and "Hmm" (for R1 1u, e.g. Esc, F1-13, 1-9, PgUp, Home, etc.)
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Feedback welcome.
That is absolutely gorgeous
Post by: ryou965 on Fri, 17 April 2020, 09:46:50
Post by: Eddie_Caps on Fri, 17 April 2020, 10:01:22
Post by: manzel on Fri, 17 April 2020, 10:40:07
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 10:42:37
The text novelties look a little out of place with icon mods. Apart from that they are nice. And I'd like if you also added a 1u Yrden since the 1.25u keys cannot be used on Tsangan layouts. Possibly in R1? That way one could use all five signs in the right column of a 75 and still have an arrow in the bottom row.
Base will have all text mods. Will update soon.
Please clarify the rest of your post. 1u tsangan novelty would be R4?
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 10:50:28
QuoteInstead of having the one steel sword printed on the enter key, you could have a steel sword on one shift key and a silver sword in the other to make it more true to the Geralt wielding two swords. :) GMK Red Samurai does this with katanas for reference.
I considered this but I won't want to be seen as ripping off GMK Red Samurai's design. More feedback welcome, as usual.
I'm pretty sure GMK Red Samurai does not do this with swords (it has cloud novelties on the Shifts instead), so you wouldn't be ripping off anything. I like this idea. +1
QuoteFor 65%, a R3 PgUp and a R4 PgDn would be nice. An international/nordic kit would also be nice.
What keyboard do you use those keys on, and why? I would suggest just using the novelties instead, so as not to add more keys to base?
I'm not the original asker, but I will answer your question because I also use R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn and would like to see them added to the base kit. Those keys are popular options for 65%, 75% and I use them on every board that I own in those layouts. As for why, some people do it because it lets them have split backspace with R3 Delete (I fall into this group); others do it because they prefer to use R1 Home, R2 End in the right column; while the third group does it simply because they like the placement of PgUp, PgDn better that way. R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn is also the default layout on a number of 65% boards, including the Alt, which is arguably the most common 65% out in the wild. This helped further popularize the layout that was originally made popular by the Whitefox line of keyboards all the way back in 2015–2016.
Speaking of popularity, those keys have been seeing inclusion in the majority of recent GMK sets, in base kits more often than not. For example, 4/6 currently running GMK sets have R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn (6/8 if you include Infinikey and KAT), including Bleached which has them in its very tiny base kit. In that sense, those keys are seen much more frequently than 1.5u Supers. I should have some broader stats for you to look at soon, spanning all sets run in the past 10 months.
As for the novelties, at the moment they aren't laid out in a way that would make sense for R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn (see here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2888025#msg2888025) for a suggestion that would work better, which I think also covers Manzel's use case). Plus, I'm not sure if I would even be buying the novelties kit, so having R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn as options in the base kit would be a welcome change for me. Since 65% boards make up the majority of my collection, support for these keys is a prerequisite for any set I buy (unless I really like it enough to look past it).
Post by: manzel on Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:04:18
With how you have it currently, one cannot use all five signs on a 65/75 with 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5 bottom row (which I referred to as Tsangan). If you want to have the Yrden sign in the bottom row, that would be 1u R4, correct. But then that one sign would be separated from the others since exchanging only the right arrow for a sign would look strange. Therefore, having R1 Yrden would allow for five signs in the right column of a 75, while keeping the right arrow. On a 65, it would obviously not work because we are missing the f row. But here, one could use the R1 key if split backspace is used. Was just a suggestion, an 1u R4 key would also be better than only the 1.25u.And I'd like if you also added a 1u Yrden since the 1.25u keys cannot be used on Tsangan layouts. Possibly in R1? That way one could use all five signs in the right column of a 75 and still have an arrow in the bottom row.
Please clarify the rest of your post. 1u tsangan novelty would be R4?
In that sense, those keys are seen much more frequently than 1.5u Supers.Please keep at least one 1.5u Super (also nice that it is going to be Super instead of Code). This key is also useful for WKL layouts with Ctrl on Caps.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:13:06
With how you have it currently, one cannot use all five signs on a 65/75 with 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5 bottom row (which I referred to as Tsangan). If you want to have the Yrden sign in the bottom row, that would be 1u R4, correct. But then that one sign would be separated from the others since exchanging only the right arrow for a sign would look strange. Therefore, having R1 Yrden would allow for five signs in the right column of a 75, while keeping the right arrow. On a 65, it would obviously not work because we are missing the f row. But here, one could use the R1 key if split backspace is used. Was just a suggestion, an 1u R4 key would also be better than only the 1.25u.Could you check the suggestion I linked above and confirm if it covers your use case?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for the removal of 1.5u Super here, just the addition of the two other keys. :DIn that sense, those keys are seen much more frequently than 1.5u Supers.Please keep at least one 1.5u Super (also nice that it is going to be Super instead of Code). This key is also useful for WKL layouts with Ctrl on Caps.
Post by: manzel on Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:26:41
Could you check the suggestion I linked above and confirm if it covers your use case?That would indeed work.
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:39:09
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:40:25
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 12:32:19
Think a lot more could have been done with this. Just looks like a novelty kit for Ashes :/ Makes me sad.
Not a very constructive comment.
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 April 2020, 12:35:15
With how you have it currently, one cannot use all five signs on a 65/75 with 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5 bottom row (which I referred to as Tsangan). If you want to have the Yrden sign in the bottom row, that would be 1u R4, correct. But then that one sign would be separated from the others since exchanging only the right arrow for a sign would look strange. Therefore, having R1 Yrden would allow for five signs in the right column of a 75, while keeping the right arrow. On a 65, it would obviously not work because we are missing the f row. But here, one could use the R1 key if split backspace is used. Was just a suggestion, an 1u R4 key would also be better than only the 1.25u.And I'd like if you also added a 1u Yrden since the 1.25u keys cannot be used on Tsangan layouts. Possibly in R1? That way one could use all five signs in the right column of a 75 and still have an arrow in the bottom row.
Please clarify the rest of your post. 1u tsangan novelty would be R4?In that sense, those keys are seen much more frequently than 1.5u Supers.Please keep at least one 1.5u Super (also nice that it is going to be Super instead of Code). This key is also useful for WKL layouts with Ctrl on Caps.
Misunderstood what you wrote. Now I get it. Yeah, I was going to shuffle the novelties around anyway but like I mentioned above, I’m not bothering until I get everything needed sorted.
If it’s not, then they’ll have to be redrawn anyway.
Keeping both Supers, will add those PgDn and PgUp keys for the 65s, and I also changed Lock to Scroll, as per someone’s suggestions. (I never connected “Scroll Lock” with “ancient scrolls” before. 😅)
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Fri, 17 April 2020, 13:34:33
Think a lot more could have been done with this. Just looks like a novelty kit for Ashes :/ Makes me sad.
Not a very constructive comment.
How is it not constructive? It says that other than the novelties, it doesn't really look like a unique set.
Post by: Eddie_Caps on Fri, 17 April 2020, 14:27:12
Think a lot more could have been done with this. Just looks like a novelty kit for Ashes :/ Makes me sad.
Not a very constructive comment.
How is it not constructive? It says that other than the novelties, it doesn't really look like a unique set.
It's not constructive because they're just stating an opinion without a solution or alternative idea. If they had said, "This doesn't look unique. Maybe if you did X and Y it would stand out more?" Then it would be constructive.
Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 18 April 2020, 22:08:30
Also, since we are celebrating a Polish author with this set, maybe the base alphas could use the sub legends of the Polish Programmer’s QWERTY?Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG/800px-Polish_programmer%27s_layout.PNG)
That particular layout doesn’t differ from US QWERTY in any visible way except for those sub legends, so it wouldn’t add keys to the kit.
Well, this WOULD require correcting the R3 #~ keycap to \| .
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 18 April 2020, 22:52:58
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 18 April 2020, 22:54:10
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 18 April 2020, 23:32:29
If you can add R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn it will be greatly appreciated.
Keeping both Supers, will add those PgDn and PgUp keys for the 65s, and I also changed Lock to Scroll, as per someone’s suggestions. (I never connected “Scroll Lock” with “ancient scrolls” before. 😅)
:thumb:
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Sun, 19 April 2020, 00:31:48
Think a lot more could have been done with this. Just looks like a novelty kit for Ashes :/ Makes me sad.
Not a very constructive comment.
How is it not constructive? It says that other than the novelties, it doesn't really look like a unique set.
It's not constructive because they're just stating an opinion without a solution or alternative idea. If they had said, "This doesn't look unique. Maybe if you did X and Y it would stand out more?" Then it would be constructive.
It's not difficult to deduce that "It looks like Ashes" is both an opinion and has an inherent solution in it. Sorry if it's tough for you.
Not sure why this community has such a hard time with criticism.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 19 April 2020, 00:33:22
If you can add R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn it will be greatly appreciated.Keeping both Supers, will add those PgDn and PgUp keys for the 65s, and I also changed Lock to Scroll, as per someone’s suggestions. (I never connected “Scroll Lock” with “ancient scrolls” before. 😅)
:thumb:
Thanks - wasn't looking closely. Beautiful set!
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 19 April 2020, 01:15:31
Think a lot more could have been done with this. Just looks like a novelty kit for Ashes :/ Makes me sad.
Not a very constructive comment.
How is it not constructive? It says that other than the novelties, it doesn't really look like a unique set.
It's not constructive because they're just stating an opinion without a solution or alternative idea. If they had said, "This doesn't look unique. Maybe if you did X and Y it would stand out more?" Then it would be constructive.
It's not difficult to deduce that "It looks like Ashes" is both an opinion and has an inherent solution in it. Sorry if it's tough for you.
Not sure why this community has such a hard time with criticism.
Ashes used custom colours and the base wasn’t mono - it had different colours for alphas and mods. Mods were lighter than alphas. There are many other sets which you could compare this to, for many different reasons, but why would you choose Ashes?
Criticism is good, when it’s constructive. Trying to figure out what you meant, said in a veiled fashion, isn’t. I’m not in your head and I have no clue what you’re referring to specifically. I don’t mind the former, in fact I encourage it, but the latter just wastes time and space.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 19 April 2020, 01:18:58
Looks great!
Thanks Oldcat. Means a lot, coming from the one of the guys who brought my favorite keyboard to life. 🙃
Post by: Yuray on Sun, 19 April 2020, 06:26:29
Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.
Considering this if there is enough demand. I did want this GB to be simple and cheap though, especially after Lunar.
I would second this. Totally down for a more contrast-like look. Accent colors are all greatly put together.
Good luck for whats to come next.
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Sun, 19 April 2020, 11:12:27
Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.
Yeah, this is the play.
Calling it GMK Gwynbleidd would be pretty dope too.
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 19 April 2020, 11:47:43
Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.
Yeah, this is the play.
Calling it GMK Gwynbleidd would be pretty dope too.
Looks super promising as someone who loves the universe.Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.Considering this if there is enough demand. I did want this GB to be simple and cheap though, especially after Lunar.
I would second this. Totally down for a more contrast-like look. Accent colors are all greatly put together.
Good luck for whats to come next.
Guys, see 2nd page with proposed alpha kit.
Here’s the link. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2890169#msg2890169)
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 19 April 2020, 11:51:37
Guys, see 2nd page with proposed alpha kit.
Here’s the link. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2890169#msg2890169)
You just know what I'm going to mention about a missing alpha. ;D
(also, R1 \| for the weirdos who like compact keyboards)
Post by: Yuray on Sun, 19 April 2020, 15:39:11
Guys, see 2nd page with proposed alpha kit.
Here’s the link. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2890169#msg2890169)
Ah, i see. Thanks for the heads-up! :)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 19 April 2020, 16:09:56
Looks great!
Thanks Oldcat. Means a lot, coming from the one of the guys who brought my favorite keyboard to life. 🙃
Already shared this with the chinese keeb community and I can see people are very excited. Good luck with this new project!
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 19 April 2020, 18:16:42
Looks great!
Thanks Oldcat. Means a lot, coming from the one of the guys who brought my favorite keyboard to life. 🙃
Already shared this with the chinese keeb community and I can see people are very excited. Good luck with this new project!
🥰 Thanks and right back at you!
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Sun, 19 April 2020, 20:46:46
Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.
Yeah, this is the play.
Calling it GMK Gwynbleidd would be pretty dope too.Looks super promising as someone who loves the universe.Please add light color alphas kit for those who prefer more contrast between modifiers etc.
The same light greyish color as those from the spacebar kit.Considering this if there is enough demand. I did want this GB to be simple and cheap though, especially after Lunar.
I would second this. Totally down for a more contrast-like look. Accent colors are all greatly put together.
Good luck for whats to come next.
Guys, see 2nd page with proposed alpha kit.
Here’s the link. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2890169#msg2890169)
Those alphas look great. Really excited for this now (if those happen).
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 06:24:12
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Changes to core:
- added R3 PgUp
- added R4 PgDn
- 00 removed from numpad
- Lock changed to Scroll
- Enter changed to Return
- Code changed to Super
- all icon mods replaced with text mods
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Changes to novelties:
- added silver Return key
- re-worked novelties as per suggestions so that they can be used as Home/End/PgDn/PgUp in a more visually cohesive manner
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Changes to spacebars:
- moved silver spacebars to Sihill kit
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Changes to silver/alt alphas:
- added silver spacebars
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 20 April 2020, 06:40:07
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 13:34:46
Found some time to update the newest proposed changes. These will unfortunately increase the prices of both base + novelty kits slightly, but it shouldn't be a lot.
Changes to core:
- added R3 PgUp
- added R4 PgDn
- 00 removed from numpad
- Lock changed to Scroll
- Enter changed to Return
- Code changed to Super
- all icon mods replaced with text mods
Looks good! Although I don't see a stepped Caps anymore; maybe the 1.75u stepped Control is supposed to be Caps?
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 15:34:11
Found some time to update the newest proposed changes. These will unfortunately increase the prices of both base + novelty kits slightly, but it shouldn't be a lot.
Changes to core:
- added R3 PgUp
- added R4 PgDn
- 00 removed from numpad
- Lock changed to Scroll
- Enter changed to Return
- Code changed to Super
- all icon mods replaced with text mods
Looks good! Although I don't see a stepped Caps anymore; maybe the 1.75u stepped Control is supposed to be Caps?
Typo.
Post by: DERBS on Mon, 20 April 2020, 15:40:32
Post by: jedidood on Mon, 20 April 2020, 17:12:50
Post by: Pluto19 on Mon, 20 April 2020, 17:55:48
Anywho...
- Consideration to change row 2 1.5u backspace text from "Delete" to "Backspace" or two-lined "Back Space" as to not have double "Delete"s for those that split backspace and have delete on on their 65%-75% (and even split backspace TKL users)?
- No text "Return" for the numpad?
- "Hmm", "****", and "Roach" novelties are pretty ridiculous
- Bummer for the row 4 1.5u novelty users
- You're missing row 1 1u pipe for Sihill
- Bummer for no Sihill numpad
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 20 April 2020, 18:15:04
- "Hmm", "****", and "Roach" novelties are pretty ridiculous
- Bummer for no Sihill numpad
1. Ridiculously awesome
2. Yeah, I like when the alt kits are like GMK Honey or Coral and have the numpad alphas. I get it though, that's a fraction of a fraction of users. I may have to polish off the pad printing of GMK redacted (also 2M)...
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 18:25:44
- Consideration to change row 2 1.5u backspace text from "Delete" to "Backspace" or two-lined "Back Space" as to not have double "Delete"s for those that split backspace and have delete on on their 65%-75% (and even split backspace TKL users)?
- No text "Return" for the numpad?
- You're missing row 1 1u pipe for Sihill
+1 to these points. I didn't even notice the 1.5u Backspace was “Delete”. I really don't like it when sets do that, for the exact reason you stated. That being said, one-line “Backspace”, please; two lines would break the cohesive appearance of the rest of the text legends.
As for the numpad, “Enter” can be used instead of “Return”, which doesn't fit on 1u wide keycaps. In fact, “Enter” better matches what the numpad Enter key does on systems that differentiate between Return and Enter (*nix and macOS), so it's the appropriate text legend to use.
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 19:59:38
Text mods now? Rip me :/
Anywho...
- Consideration to change row 2 1.5u backspace text from "Delete" to "Backspace" or two-lined "Back Space" as to not have double "Delete"s for those that split backspace and have delete on on their 65%-75% (and even split backspace TKL users)?
- No text "Return" for the numpad?
- "Hmm", "****", and "Roach" novelties are pretty ridiculous
- Bummer for the row 4 1.5u novelty users
- You're missing row 1 1u pipe for Sihill
- Bummer for no Sihill numpad
1. I can do Backspace. I prefer Delete on 1.5u because it makes the key look cleaner and I don’t use a second Delete so not an issue but I see your point. It would be single-line to match the rest.
2. KLE missed a save. See 5.
4. Balancing price. 😕
5. I just checked my screenshots as I go along and KLE seems to have just reverted back. Ugh. Missed it when getting final shots. Will fix.
6. Pricing reasons.
- Consideration to change row 2 1.5u backspace text from "Delete" to "Backspace" or two-lined "Back Space" as to not have double "Delete"s for those that split backspace and have delete on on their 65%-75% (and even split backspace TKL users)?
- No text "Return" for the numpad?
- You're missing row 1 1u pipe for Sihill
+1 to these points. I didn't even notice the 1.5u Backspace was “Delete”. I really don't like it when sets do that, for the exact reason you stated. That being said, one-line “Backspace”, please; two lines would break the cohesive appearance of the rest of the text legends.
As for the numpad, “Enter” can be used instead of “Return”, which doesn't fit on 1u wide keycaps. In fact, “Enter” better matches what the numpad Enter key does on systems that differentiate between Return and Enter (*nix and macOS), so it's the appropriate text legend to use.
I personally prefer both legends to match so I went with Return. I think the only software I use thst still differentiates between the two is Photoshop for Mac.
Edit
Does anyone know if QMK differentiates KC_KP_ENTER (Keypad Enter) from KC_ENTER? I assume so but since I don’t have a full keeb with a numpad, I can’t verify.
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 20:08:10
I personally prefer both legends to match so I went with Return. I think the only software I use thst still differentiates between the two is Photoshop for Mac.Are you sure a numpad Return mold exists? I don't think it would fit on the key, and I don't know any sets that use it.
Does anyone know if QMK differentiates KC_KP_ENTER (Keypad Enter) from KC_ENTER? I assume so but since I don’t have a full keeb with a numpad, I can’t verify.Yes, they are different scancodes as per the USB HID specification. Windows assigns the same VK code to them, however, while *nix and macOS keep them as separate keys.
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 20:30:10
I personally prefer both legends to match so I went with Return. I think the only software I use thst still differentiates between the two is Photoshop for Mac.Are you sure a numpad Return mold exists? I don't think it would fit on the key, and I don't know any sets that use it.Does anyone know if QMK differentiates KC_KP_ENTER (Keypad Enter) from KC_ENTER? I assume so but since I don’t have a full keeb with a numpad, I can’t verify.Yes, they are different scancodes as per the USB HID specification. Windows assigns the same VK code to them, however, while *nix and macOS keep them as separate keys.
Re 1: Space Cadet, off the top of my head. I’m sure there must be others. Re 2: Thanks.
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 April 2020, 20:40:33
Re 1: Space Cadet, off the top of my head. I’m sure there must be others.
Good to know, thanks! I checked Crimson Cadet and assumed Space Cadet used the same legends. If anyone can think of any other sets, please let me know.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 20 April 2020, 20:48:33
GMK oblivion R1? R2 uses enter, at least on my monochrome set.
Post by: alper_maestro on Tue, 21 April 2020, 01:22:35
- "Hmm", "****", and "Roach" novelties are pretty ridiculous
When I read your comment like this, I don't think you will give enough appreciation to this project. Not a real Witcher fan I understand.
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 21 April 2020, 07:39:33
- changed R2 1.5u Delete to Backspace as per request
- changed numpad icon carriage return to Return
- added R1 1u |\ to Sihill
- fixed legend on stepped Caps Lock — label now reads "Caps"
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Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 21 April 2020, 07:49:41
Reposting all kits, hopefully all fixed this time.
- changed R2 1.5u Delete to Backspace as per request
- changed numpad icon carriage return to Return
- added R1 1u |\ to Sihill
- fixed legend on stepped Caps Lock — label now reads "Caps"
This looks great, will be keeping an eye on it.
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 21 April 2020, 07:57:32
Anyway, since I'm typing away, made a new Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/g5ekug/ic_gmk_white_wolf_updated_kits_incl_novelties/
Post by: Nivengoh on Wed, 22 April 2020, 14:41:06
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 22 April 2020, 15:11:53
Hmm love the overall aesthetic, would be nice to have icons from the other schools as well, like bear, cat, viper and griffin. And for the signs i feel like it would be more cool and appropriate to have the so call font colours to be the same as the signs colour (Aard-blue, Ignis-Red,Quen-Orange, Yrden-Purple,Axii-Green). But overall just my 2cents, im just glad finally someone made a Witcher theme.
This has been suggested. Please check answers to feedback on page 2 of this thread.
Post by: steezkeez on Wed, 22 April 2020, 15:34:31
Post by: refkeys on Wed, 22 April 2020, 17:30:04
I know you've already addressed it, but I want to throw in my support for giving the Ciri and Yennefer enter keys novelty designs instead of just text so it still seems Witcher themed if you use the accent caps instead of the Geralt sword caps, and more novelties in general (such as additional swords). Also interested in unique witcher-style fonts, but I understand that may blow the price out.
Final purely personal preference comment is that I'd prefer the whole sword to feature on the novelty key, not partial.
Looks pretty cool!
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 23 April 2020, 05:03:03
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 23 April 2020, 05:20:24
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 05:24:41
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 23 April 2020, 05:56:54
Am I the first person to request a Colemak kit? No? Can we please have one? If not I'll just get the novelties because they're so pretty
Sorry, not enough demand. Won’t hit 100 MOQ.
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 23 April 2020, 07:09:29
Post by: Raptor_N60 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 00:59:13
You should update the IC form in the op with the newest kits :thumb:
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:37:30
Post by: Slayer77 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 16:25:54
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Post by: Chromavoid on Sun, 26 April 2020, 21:59:08
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:51:18
I'm in for this whenever it goes live. I just filled out the IC form, and noticed you are thinking of a alt color alpha set, which was my only "request". Other than that, looking forward to it!
I didn’t add the alpha set to the IC form, because it would unrealistically not be updated by all the responders, but you there will be one. See here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2891806#msg2891806
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:53:52
I love your designs, but I am afraid that due to custom novelties in base, this doesn't drive up base kit price like lunar. Looks great though!I'm in for this whenever it goes live. I just filled out the IC form, and noticed you are thinking of a alt color alpha set, which was my only "request". Other than that, looking forward to it!
I didn’t add the alpha set to the IC form, because it would unrealistically not be updated by all the responders, but you there will be one. See here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2891806#msg2891806
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Post by: Moridin on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:55:27
I love your designs, but I am afraid that due to custom novelties in base, this doesn't drive up base kit price like lunar. Looks great though!I'm in for this whenever it goes live. I just filled out the IC form, and noticed you are thinking of a alt color alpha set, which was my only "request". Other than that, looking forward to it!
I didn’t add the alpha set to the IC form, because it would unrealistically not be updated by all the responders, but you there will be one. See here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2891806#msg2891806
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Base should be around 110-120 with a little bit of luck. I don’t foresee it going up to 130.
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:56:22
That's amazing! Novelty in base is something I would like to see more rather than 60$ huge novelty kits!I love your designs, but I am afraid that due to custom novelties in base, this doesn't drive up base kit price like lunar. Looks great though!I'm in for this whenever it goes live. I just filled out the IC form, and noticed you are thinking of a alt color alpha set, which was my only "request". Other than that, looking forward to it!
I didn’t add the alpha set to the IC form, because it would unrealistically not be updated by all the responders, but you there will be one. See here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2891806#msg2891806
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Base should be around 110-120 with a little bit of luck. I don’t foresee it going up to 130.
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Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:32:22
I love your designs, but I am afraid that due to custom novelties in base, this doesn't drive up base kit price like lunar. Looks great though!I'm in for this whenever it goes live. I just filled out the IC form, and noticed you are thinking of a alt color alpha set, which was my only "request". Other than that, looking forward to it!
I didn’t add the alpha set to the IC form, because it would unrealistically not be updated by all the responders, but you there will be one. See here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105691.msg2891806#msg2891806
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Base should be around 110-120 with a little bit of luck. I don’t foresee it going up to 130.
Excellent news, looking forward to this
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 28 April 2020, 04:35:36
Post by: mark.l.ashworth on Fri, 01 May 2020, 16:47:00
Post by: deathjester on Fri, 01 May 2020, 17:23:26
Hi Moridin, is there any chance you’ll be producing an international kit? I’m new to custom mechanical board world and have my heart set on the base kit and novelties. But I’m in the UK and don’t see an available set of R1 caps for the UK.
Agreed, although most of them are there; it's just 2/" 3/£ and '/@ which are missing; the rest of the ISO layout is there (I think), feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Post by: mark.l.ashworth on Fri, 01 May 2020, 17:26:44
That’s correct, is it normal to improvise or would you consider adding these three caps.Hi Moridin, is there any chance you’ll be producing an international kit? I’m new to custom mechanical board world and have my heart set on the base kit and novelties. But I’m in the UK and don’t see an available set of R1 caps for the UK.
Agreed, although most of them are there; it's just 2/" 3/£ and '/@ which are missing; the rest of the ISO layout is there (I think), feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by: Moridin on Sat, 02 May 2020, 03:04:23
That’s correct, is it normal to improvise or would you consider adding these three caps.Hi Moridin, is there any chance you’ll be producing an international kit? I’m new to custom mechanical board world and have my heart set on the base kit and novelties. But I’m in the UK and don’t see an available set of R1 caps for the UK.
Agreed, although most of them are there; it's just 2/" 3/£ and '/@ which are missing; the rest of the ISO layout is there (I think), feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Unfortunately there are too few ISO buyers to make this viable since it would increase the base price for everyone and probably not hit MOQ if it was a standalone kit. The most basic ISO support is included though.
Post by: mark.l.ashworth on Sat, 02 May 2020, 04:45:31
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 02 May 2020, 06:16:18
Post by: mark.l.ashworth on Sat, 02 May 2020, 06:20:38
Look at Oblivion. 3000+ base kits and 120 NORDEUK kits sold. Tiny market.It’s a shame but I had to ask. Guess my number row will have to become Witcher signs
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Post by: Moridin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 05:50:12
Post by: alper_maestro on Wed, 06 May 2020, 06:03:28
The first stage of talks with CD Projekt have concluded. I am now waiting for an assessment from their legal department. Depending on the outcome, we will either proceed, or work on our own visual interpretation of the Witcher Signs, based on the books’ descriptions.
Hope they approve everything as it is now :thumb:
Post by: Krazzios on Fri, 08 May 2020, 09:11:18
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 08 May 2020, 09:25:20
If this is going to be a licensed product, would it not make sense to offer as much compat as possible? Thinking about NorDe specifically, or even Polish (in keeping with the origin of the franchise). This is a very nice colorway, and I think it's a shame to exclude people just because it causes some extra work. Worst case scenario, that particular child kit just doesn't reach MOQ.
Licensed doesn’t mean that CDP will be participating financially. 😉 A kit not making MOQ is a loss for vendors when refunding money. They lose the fees.
Waiting for legal assessment and then we’ll see how we’ll proceed.
Post by: Krazzios on Fri, 08 May 2020, 09:30:38
But then, add-on kits wouldn't require any CDPR trademarks, so I might be on the wrong track.
Just see this as a +1 for international kits :)
Post by: Desolace on Sat, 09 May 2020, 18:39:46
Post by: Radium on Sat, 09 May 2020, 19:11:48
Post by: SMOKEY on Sun, 10 May 2020, 13:57:31
But I choose this set! Love it...also IN!
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 15 May 2020, 16:38:25
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Fri, 15 May 2020, 17:31:01
the question may be asked before, but when?
oldcat feeling how we feel about his designs >.>
Post by: fropsie on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:29:16
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 16 May 2020, 03:02:27
the question may be asked before, but when?
Hopefully early July.
Post by: SirTimmyTimbit on Sat, 16 May 2020, 03:12:36
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 May 2020, 16:01:12
the question may be asked before, but when?
Hopefully early July.
Looking forward!
Post by: Dior on Thu, 21 May 2020, 17:39:42
This set will go very nicely with my rig
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Thu, 21 May 2020, 17:47:35
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gFSgseL.jpg)
This set will go very nicely with my rig
Oh snap!
Is that a Lian Li?
Post by: Dior on Thu, 21 May 2020, 18:06:31
Yup ! The Lian Li O series. I think this number 6 of the lien upShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/gFSgseL.jpg)
This set will go very nicely with my rig
Oh snap!
Is that a Lian Li?
Post by: Zaprey on Fri, 22 May 2020, 09:02:08
Post by: VXQN on Fri, 22 May 2020, 09:11:49
i really think that UK iso caps would not make a huge difference to price, and would make quite a few users choose to buy it.
As a UK ISO user, I'm on the fence about purchasing this!
Post by: PixelOps on Fri, 22 May 2020, 09:39:44
Post by: alper_maestro on Wed, 27 May 2020, 04:51:57
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:47:07
How does the legal assessment proceed? Any news?
Nothing yet. They’re super busy with Cyberpunk so I might have to proceed with my own designs.
Y’all OK with that?
Post by: alper_maestro on Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:57:31
How does the legal assessment proceed? Any news?
Nothing yet. They’re super busy with Cyberpunk so I might have to proceed with my own designs.
Y’all OK with that?
Or just wait and delay the GB date to August if it's necessary? Would personally see the original designs of course :cool:
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:58:42
How does the legal assessment proceed? Any news?
Nothing yet. They’re super busy with Cyberpunk so I might have to proceed with my own designs.
Y’all OK with that?
Or just wait and delay the GB date to August if it's necessary? Would personally see the original designs of course :cool:
At this point it could be a 6 month wait as far as I have heard...
Post by: alper_maestro on Wed, 27 May 2020, 06:06:40
How does the legal assessment proceed? Any news?
Nothing yet. They’re super busy with Cyberpunk so I might have to proceed with my own designs.
Y’all OK with that?
Or just wait and delay the GB date to August if it's necessary? Would personally see the original designs of course :cool:
At this point it could be a 6 month wait as far as I have heard...
Ahh, 6 months is a very long time to wait. And after that probably 6 months again for the final process before the shipping process starts. It's a tough call.
Maybe add another poll about it with your personal designs? This allows enthusiasts to better assess what the situation entails. The question is also what your personal design will look like, which can be positive or negative for those who has seen the original design and were excited about it.
Personally I'm fine waiting because the original design it's what fans are waiting for :)
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 27 May 2020, 06:06:59
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Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 27 May 2020, 14:56:01
im just in for the F*** key and they cant take that away from you lol!
F*** kit. 8 hmms. 8 F***S, 2 each per row.
Or turn it into the new salty kit
Post by: breckstar on Fri, 29 May 2020, 08:18:50
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Post by: pfcmickey on Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:03:45
I second the opinion of running the non licensed stuff first then making a second run of licensed material later on.
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:56:01
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 02 June 2020, 06:33:49
Yeah I too would rather wait and have something resemble the books instead of trying to make it look more generic with some vague tie in.
The current ones do not resemble the books. The alternatives will. 😉
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 02 June 2020, 06:34:21
any chance for a r0 & r5 kit?
Not at this time.
Post by: L-Ron on Thu, 04 June 2020, 08:56:21
Post by: dRnRcRr on Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:56:42
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Sun, 07 June 2020, 14:42:34
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 07 June 2020, 16:01:29
Pretty sure GMK will not be accepting the **** key. They didn't accept a hemp leaf novelty because it's drug related. They're not gonna accept profanity either.
They aren’t against it, at this time.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 07 June 2020, 20:15:45
You must fight for this right!Pretty sure GMK will not be accepting the **** key. They didn't accept a hemp leaf novelty because it's drug related. They're not gonna accept profanity either.
They aren’t against it, at this time.
Post by: Bax on Sun, 07 June 2020, 20:34:18
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 09 June 2020, 23:20:49
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:28:47
Really like this, not a lot ofgamebook themed keysets out there.
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:17:43
Really like this, not a lot ofgamebook themed keysets out there.
😅
Post by: alper_maestro on Sun, 12 July 2020, 08:58:19
Post by: santela on Sun, 12 July 2020, 11:37:49
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 13 July 2020, 02:51:48
At this point in time there are a few things we can do:
1. Go ahead as is, risking them finding out about it.
2. Redesign the Witcher Signs, so as not to infringe on their intellectual property (IP).
3. Scrap the whole project.
I'm personally for no. 2.
Your comments welcome.
Post by: TEL_Venom on Mon, 13 July 2020, 03:47:52
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 13 July 2020, 05:31:21
Post by: mark.l.ashworth on Mon, 13 July 2020, 05:39:21
As has already been mentioned. Offical novelities can always be added on round two.
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Post by: Eddie_Caps on Mon, 13 July 2020, 12:15:35
Post by: juice_pouch on Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:17:06
Post by: lamonayon on Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:37:02
You have a cool set, if it's just the icons that are disappearing, you can easily change the sword/wolf to a modern looking icon to match the triangles.
Let's go man!
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 14 July 2020, 08:46:15
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 14 July 2020, 08:55:05
Should I add more Sign novelties to this set? Was considering especially 1.25u and 1.5u R4...
Also, maybe a few more text novelties?
These changes will increase the price of course.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 14 July 2020, 09:34:16
Since I'm doing renders...
Should I add more Sign novelties to this set? Was considering especially 1.25u and 1.5u R4...
Also, maybe a few more text novelties?
These changes will increase the price of course.
The current novelties kit is already one of the larger ones around, so I would say no.
Post by: DetectiveNio on Tue, 14 July 2020, 10:12:38
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Post by: santela on Tue, 14 July 2020, 12:11:54
Post by: lamonayon on Tue, 14 July 2020, 13:31:39
Since I'm doing renders...
Should I add more Sign novelties to this set? Was considering especially 1.25u and 1.5u R4...
Also, maybe a few more text novelties?
These changes will increase the price of course.
Please render on the Thinkv2, especially now that it's almost GB!
Top colors afaik are:
1. E White
2. Panda
3. PC
Post by: alper_maestro on Tue, 14 July 2020, 15:20:28
Since I'm doing renders...
Should I add more Sign novelties to this set? Was considering especially 1.25u and 1.5u R4...
Also, maybe a few more text novelties?
These changes will increase the price of course.
I think there is no need for it, current set has enough novelties to satisfy most people in my opinion.
Post by: stein3 on Tue, 14 July 2020, 23:05:46
But yeah, definitely play it safe and don't get sued.
Just redesign. Don't wanna get Blink'edWhat happened to Blink?
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Post by: titanium on Tue, 14 July 2020, 23:14:58
or add a 1.5u novelty key please
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 15 July 2020, 02:05:27
Change 1 of the 1.5u 'Super' keys to be 'Fn', 'Function', 'Meta', or 'Hyper'
or add a 1.5u novelty key please
What layout are you using and on what keyboard?
Post by: titanium on Wed, 15 July 2020, 03:09:56
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 15 July 2020, 05:16:37
Guys, this is the new Witcher Signs concept.
Some design notes:
— Witcher Signs are made using the casters fingers, which the dots are meant to represent.
— The lines connect the dots, suggesting how a specific Sign is cast.
— The dots are also a tribute to mechanical keyboards (PCB holes specifically).
— The dots could are also slightly reminiscent of constellations, hence trying to forge a connection with the stars, and magic in turn.
— The spaces between the dots and lines are also in line with that Sword novelty.
Please let me know what you think. I'll be getting some new renders done soon so please add any feedback you deem necessary!
Post by: alper_maestro on Wed, 15 July 2020, 05:23:04
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Post by: Moridin on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:26:57
Can we see what it looks like without the smaller unfilled/uncolored dots in the center of bigger dots? I am thinking it would look nicer if the dots were solid color.
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Yes, this is a design variation I went with. Renders with both filled and unfilled dots coming soon. 🙂
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:34:32
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Post by: konstantin on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:57:07
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 15 July 2020, 12:01:42
Perhaps a hot take, but both Ciri and Yen colors would be great base sets
Post by: stein3 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:32:39
I dig the filled ones, looks a bit cleaner imo :)
+1 FWIW
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Post by: Moridin on Wed, 15 July 2020, 15:40:23
Couldn't we have just ran a novelty kit for nines?
I'm actually considering going custom colours, if there's enough demand (and it looks like there is).
Post by: heyimpanda on Wed, 15 July 2020, 20:19:58
Post by: travwal on Thu, 16 July 2020, 10:31:12
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Thu, 16 July 2020, 11:12:31
Post by: mediancodex on Thu, 16 July 2020, 20:27:25
Quote
2. Redesign the Witcher Signs, so as not to infringe on their intellectual property (IP).
Definitely go forward with 2. This set is going to be great!
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 July 2020, 04:49:34
Did you mean to have an extra Tab key in your silver alphas? Or is that just an error?
Yes. It's so that you can cover 2 keyboards if you buy both core kit + alphas. Someone asked me to move it into the base kit though. Don't recall who now or why. If you're reading this, let me know.
I'll be making some updates over the weekend with renders hopefully coming soon thereafter.
Post by: jaytae on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:51:58
Post by: lookid on Sat, 25 July 2020, 16:06:13
Post by: BapoDonu on Sat, 25 July 2020, 16:08:28
any info about gb?Says August on keycaplendar
Post by: maedhros on Sat, 25 July 2020, 23:25:29
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 25 July 2020, 23:59:15
any info about gb?Says August on keycaplendar
If we’re waiting on renders for updates, and quotes are over a month / sometimes 2, I don’t think this runs in August.
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 27 July 2020, 03:54:10
Post by: mediancodex on Mon, 27 July 2020, 22:20:22
Post by: KCK on Tue, 28 July 2020, 09:05:10
Post by: phinix on Tue, 28 July 2020, 18:24:21
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 29 July 2020, 02:29:34
Zireael
Zireael — the novelty kit — consists of 10 light grey on dark grey novelties, which are inspired by Geralt's Signs — Aard, Axii, Quen, Igni, and Yrden. I have also added the novelties from the core kit in a reversed colourway — dark greys on light grey keys — and included two coloured sets. The latter consist of two R1 novelty keys each (signifying the ladies' symbols), arrows, and Enter keys. The colours are inspired by Ciri's and Yennefer's eyes. Finally, there are some new text novelties, including R1 1u "Hmm", R1 2u "****", and R3 1.5u "Roach". The regular Enter key should be light grey, not white (render error).
Version 3 — "Dots" Design
[attachimg=1]
Version 4 — "Circle" Design
[attachimg=2]
— Witcher Signs are made using the casters fingers, which the dots/circles are meant to represent.
— The lines connect the dots/circles, suggesting how a specific Sign is cast.
— The dots are also a tribute to mechanical keyboards (PCB holes specifically).
— The dots/circles could are also slightly reminiscent of constellations, hence trying to forge a connection with the stars, and magic in turn.
— The spaces between the dots/circles and lines are also in line with that Sword novelty.
Since I have proposed 2 slightly different designs (I am partial to one of them!), I would love to hear some feedback from you guys. Please take part in this new poll and vote for your favourite design:
GMK White Wolf Zireael Novelty Design Poll (https://forms.gle/wuQDMhFRKz9L2vjg6)
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 29 July 2020, 02:57:02
I have more or less decided to go for custom colours. Whether I go RAL or Pantone, I will go for a slightly darker and cooler, more neutral grey than N9, which should slot in nicely between GMK's CR and N9.
Post by: alper_maestro on Wed, 29 July 2020, 05:20:04
And please go for Custom Colors :thumb:
Post by: mediancodex on Wed, 29 July 2020, 17:27:09
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 11:26:51
Ooo, a darker than N9 grey, that sounds perfect :)
I agree, that sounds pretty cool.
Post by: Dunne on Fri, 31 July 2020, 11:42:48
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 08:58:49
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:13:47
Post by: phinix on Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:50:19
Post by: phinix on Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:53:15
Zireael
Zireael — the novelty kit — consists of 10 light grey on dark grey novelties, which are inspired by Geralt's Signs — Aard, Axii, Quen, Igni, and Yrden. I have also added the novelties from the core kit in a reversed colourway — dark greys on light grey keys — and included two coloured sets. The latter consist of two R1 novelty keys each (signifying the ladies' symbols), arrows, and Enter keys. The colours are inspired by Ciri's and Yennefer's eyes. Finally, there are some new text novelties, including R1 1u "Hmm", R1 2u "****", and R3 1.5u "Roach". The regular Enter key should be light grey, not white (render error).Version 3 — "Dots" DesignVersion 4 — "Circle" Design
— Witcher Signs are made using the casters fingers, which the dots/circles are meant to represent.
— The lines connect the dots/circles, suggesting how a specific Sign is cast.
— The dots are also a tribute to mechanical keyboards (PCB holes specifically).
— The dots/circles could are also slightly reminiscent of constellations, hence trying to forge a connection with the stars, and magic in turn.
— The spaces between the dots/circles and lines are also in line with that Sword novelty.
Since I have proposed 2 slightly different designs (I am partial to one of them!), I would love to hear some feedback from you guys. Please take part in this new poll and vote for your favourite design:GMK White Wolf Zireael Novelty Design Poll (https://forms.gle/wuQDMhFRKz9L2vjg6)
I picked dots, but I think you mixed the images, as dots (filled circles) are circles and other way around :))
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:18:44
I picked dots, but I think you mixed the images, as dots (filled circles) are circles and other way around :))
We had this topic on the Discord channel and I actually didn't. My reasoning behind the names was logical until someone pointed it out to me. Anyway, I'd need a large bottle of whiskey and a long night to explain it, but "dots" are ones with the holes and "circles" are filled. You're better off not knowing... 😂
BTW: Poll showed an overwhelming vote for Version 4 (filled in, without the holes) – over 75%. Render below.
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Post by: phinix on Mon, 03 August 2020, 16:28:59
Post by: stein3 on Mon, 03 August 2020, 17:26:11
Well, in this case it doesn't matter as my preferred option won :DSame. I couldn't unsee PCB traces in the open version.
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 04 August 2020, 03:42:52
Well, in this case it doesn't matter as my preferred option won :DSame. I couldn't unsee PCB traces in the open version.
That's what they were meant to signify! 🙂 But I'm happy too... 🙃
Post by: Pluto19 on Sat, 08 August 2020, 02:26:17
Post by: Bobatype on Sat, 08 August 2020, 02:30:36
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Wed, 12 August 2020, 07:00:11
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 13 August 2020, 03:20:21
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[attachimg=2]
Post by: Rilow on Thu, 13 August 2020, 03:50:41
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 13 August 2020, 04:41:38
I added two new renders, showing off the set on an e-white 7V, using the same angle as before with the grey 7V, but showing off the Sihill Kit (alt alphas) as well as Ciri's and Yen's novelties.
Hi, where is the picture/render of the Sihill — the Alternative (Silver) Alphas Kit? I don't see it at the first page.
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 13 August 2020, 04:43:15
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Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 13 August 2020, 04:46:28
It should be somewhere in the first post.Thanks again for sharing, maybe I was blind :D
Which color-code will be used for 'silver' ?
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 13 August 2020, 04:47:49
It should be somewhere in the first post.Thanks again for sharing, maybe i was blind :D
Which color-code will be used for 'silver' ?
I'm using GMK 2M at this point but will pair it with an appropriate RAL or Pantone (currently preferring Pantone) shade I have in mind.
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 13 August 2020, 04:52:41
Post by: BapoDonu on Thu, 13 August 2020, 05:25:01
2nd B ?
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 13 August 2020, 05:26:08
2nd B ?
Possible.
Post by: Maniac on Thu, 13 August 2020, 06:39:20
NorDe kit please+1
Post by: TheDetweiler on Thu, 13 August 2020, 10:50:25
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Fri, 14 August 2020, 12:10:55
It should be somewhere in the first post.
What's with numpad support?
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 17 August 2020, 02:52:48
It should be somewhere in the first post.
What's with numpad support?
I would prefer to lower the price of the alt alphas and drop the light grey numpad but open to persuasion.
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Mon, 17 August 2020, 06:58:10
It should be somewhere in the first post.
What's with numpad support?
I would prefer to lower the price of the alt alphas and drop the light grey numpad but open to persuasion.
I really would like to have the light grey numpad keys. Maybe make a separate kit with the 13 keys or so, but a 1800 board wouldn't look good with the accent keys only on the left :/
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 17 August 2020, 12:01:45
Post by: Maniac on Mon, 17 August 2020, 15:54:46
+1It should be somewhere in the first post.
What's with numpad support?
I would prefer to lower the price of the alt alphas and drop the light grey numpad but open to persuasion.
I really would like to have the light grey numpad keys. Maybe make a separate kit with the 13 keys or so, but a 1800 board wouldn't look good with the accent keys only on the left :/
Perhaps make the dark mods/light-alphas the base kit (with numpad) and all dark alphas\numpad as separate kits?
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Tue, 18 August 2020, 01:23:01
I'm into that idea+1It should be somewhere in the first post.
What's with numpad support?
I would prefer to lower the price of the alt alphas and drop the light grey numpad but open to persuasion.
I really would like to have the light grey numpad keys. Maybe make a separate kit with the 13 keys or so, but a 1800 board wouldn't look good with the accent keys only on the left :/
Perhaps make the dark mods/light-alphas the base kit (with numpad) and all dark alphas\numpad as separate kits?
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 18 August 2020, 01:38:42
I added two new renders, showing off the set on an e-white 7V, using the same angle as before with the grey 7V, but showing off the Sihill Kit (alt alphas) as well as Ciri's and Yen's novelties.
These look awesome, is the set going to be icon mods now? I thought you were going to do text mods only for the set?
Post by: Maniac on Tue, 18 August 2020, 01:58:14
Those are part of the Novelties kitI added two new renders, showing off the set on an e-white 7V, using the same angle as before with the grey 7V, but showing off the Sihill Kit (alt alphas) as well as Ciri's and Yen's novelties.
These look awesome, is the set going to be icon mods now? I thought you were going to do text mods only for the set?
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 18 August 2020, 03:27:36
Those are part of the Novelties kitI added two new renders, showing off the set on an e-white 7V, using the same angle as before with the grey 7V, but showing off the Sihill Kit (alt alphas) as well as Ciri's and Yen's novelties.
These look awesome, is the set going to be icon mods now? I thought you were going to do text mods only for the set?
The shift and backspace are definitely not part of the novelty kit.
Post by: JoltFX on Tue, 18 August 2020, 07:11:10
How come? They clearly don’t say Shift or Backspace on them.Those are part of the Novelties kitI added two new renders, showing off the set on an e-white 7V, using the same angle as before with the grey 7V, but showing off the Sihill Kit (alt alphas) as well as Ciri's and Yen's novelties.
These look awesome, is the set going to be icon mods now? I thought you were going to do text mods only for the set?
The shift and backspace are definitely not part of the novelty kit.
(https://sanpj.tonikaku.photos/i/kqct.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105898.0)
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 19 August 2020, 02:02:59
How come? They clearly don’t say Shift or Backspace on them.Those are part of the Novelties kitI added two new renders, showing off the set on an e-white 7V, using the same angle as before with the grey 7V, but showing off the Sihill Kit (alt alphas) as well as Ciri's and Yen's novelties.
These look awesome, is the set going to be icon mods now? I thought you were going to do text mods only for the set?
The shift and backspace are definitely not part of the novelty kit.
(https://sanpj.tonikaku.photos/i/kqct.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105898.0)
There will be text mods. The renders was just a colour-swap of one of the first renders to showcase colours + alt alphas. More news coming soon — working behind the scenes to get this GB going ASAP.
Post by: Krazzios on Wed, 19 August 2020, 07:27:34
There will be text mods. The renders was just a colour-swap of one of the first renders to showcase colours + alt alphas. More news coming soon — working behind the scenes to get this GB going ASAP.
Not sure I like that. Keep in mind that the responses you've gotten so far has been with the previous renders in mind. Changing something as fundamental as mods just before going to GB is pretty weird.
Post by: stein3 on Wed, 19 August 2020, 10:23:08
I see text mods in the first post?There will be text mods. The renders was just a colour-swap of one of the first renders to showcase colours + alt alphas. More news coming soon — working behind the scenes to get this GB going ASAP.
Not sure I like that. Keep in mind that the responses you've gotten so far has been with the previous renders in mind. Changing something as fundamental as mods just before going to GB is pretty weird.
Post by: Krazzios on Wed, 19 August 2020, 19:32:06
I see text mods in the first post?
Yeah, you're right. I must have skimmed past it.
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 20 August 2020, 02:29:34
There will be text mods. The renders was just a colour-swap of one of the first renders to showcase colours + alt alphas. More news coming soon — working behind the scenes to get this GB going ASAP.
Not sure I like that. Keep in mind that the responses you've gotten so far has been with the previous renders in mind. Changing something as fundamental as mods just before going to GB is pretty weird.
Text mods were suggested by the majority early on in the IC phase, and the set was switched over to those back then. Sorry about the render — Abec was swamped and I didn't want to give him more work to switch those over for these renders.
More news soon.
Post by: diyachronic on Thu, 20 August 2020, 11:04:57
Only one thing bugs me - I've seen it mentioned and answered previously, so sorry for being annoying, but I wanted to second/third the sentiment:
Any way we could work in a second sword on one of the shift/backspace keys thru a novelty kit? I thought for sure the Sihil novelties would have a second 2.25u sword keycap or something, but no luck.
The dichotomy of two swords for two evils (and the ambiguity therein) represents a core theme of the books that I would love to see represented in this set.
Post by: Pluto19 on Fri, 21 August 2020, 17:02:37
Text mods were suggested by the majority early on in the IC phase, and the set was switched over to those back then.
Any data on this showing the majority preference on text mods?
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 03:05:20
Any way we could work in a second sword on one of the shift/backspace keys thru a novelty kit? I thought for sure the Sihil novelties would have a second 2.25u sword keycap or something, but no luck.
The dichotomy of two swords for two evils (and the ambiguity therein) represents a core theme of the books that I would love to see represented in this set.
The problem I have with adding another sword... it means that people will want it accented as well, and we have 3 different accent colours, so that's a big price increase. I could drop the sword from the Enter key and move it to the Shift keys instead, but (1) I don't really like that style and (2) GMK Red Samurai has done this already (IIRC).
Currently reworking the kits to make them more affordable; let me think on this.
ISO Enters are making things horribly complicated at the moment...
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 05:23:39
(2) GMK Red Samurai has done this already (IIRC)
So what? :P Red Sam had clouds, not swords. And just because a set did a certain kind of accents doesn't mean that other sets can't do something similar. For example, Yugo was the first set to do front-printed space novelties (afaik). Does that mean that other sets can't do the same? No it doesn't.
Personally, I'd love to see both swords on the Shifts.
Post by: manzel on Mon, 24 August 2020, 12:41:01
Of course, you could have a 1.75u sword as well, but on 1.25u you could only fit a dagger at most. And this leads to even more keys and costs.
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 13:13:00
The problem with having swords on Shift is that you need it in various sizes. And if you only offer 2.25u/2.75u most people would end up with only one sword anyway. Using 2.75u Shift is just wrong (imho) and ISO users would also only have one sword key. Thus, having that one sword on Enter makes more sense, I think.
Of course, you could have a 1.75u sword as well, but on 1.25u you could only fit a dagger at most. And this leads to even more keys and costs.
Having swords on 3 Shifts (2.25u, 1.75u, 2.75u) is pretty reasonable, imo. But it's not up to me.
Post by: Pluto19 on Mon, 24 August 2020, 23:17:11
So what? :P Red Sam had clouds, not swords. And just because a set did a certain kind of accents doesn't mean that other sets can't do something similar. For example, Yugo was the first set to do front-printed space novelties (afaik). Does that mean that other sets can't do the same? No it doesn't.Not sure if it's the first set to do front-printed spacebar novelties, but KA2018 gotcha beat there ;)
Personally, I'd love to see both swords on the Shifts.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 25 August 2020, 05:14:24
Not sure if it's the first set to do front-printed spacebar novelties, but KA2018 gotcha beat there ;)
Thanks! I figured there had to be some obscure set that I wasn't aware of out there that did it first. Also, what even is this 😂
Post by: Pluto19 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 23:00:54
Thanks! I figured there had to be some obscure set that I wasn't aware of out there that did it first. Also, what even is this 😂Dude, you ain't about Valentine's Day keysets!? C'mooon lol ;p
P.S. KA2017 and KA2019 big cute :-X
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 27 August 2020, 11:38:30
- USA → Dixie Mech
- EU → MyKeyboard.eu
- Oceania → DailyClack
- Asia → ILUMKB
The group buy for GMK White Wolf 🐺 will commence on September 4th and end on October 2nd. Stay tuned for more news, coming soon to a tavern near you.
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 27 August 2020, 21:28:46
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 07:31:12
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Fri, 28 August 2020, 12:40:23
P.S. If anyone needs to contact me, please PM me on Discord @ Moridin#9373 — I don't know what I'm doing on the PM system on GH.
LOL! So this is why you were quite active, you just didn't know what you were doing. :'(
Copping, and it's hard to pass on those spacebar sets
Post by: fropsie on Fri, 28 August 2020, 13:10:47
Not impressed.
Post by: razor_blade on Fri, 28 August 2020, 13:19:38
So I take it you didn't get licensing for the set, hence the snaking around the logos by putting dots on various points?
Not impressed.
That's a pretty dumb take. Read the thread. He tried, CDPR told him that they can't get back to him for MANY months, potentially 2021 from what I remember. This was the alternative that we, as a group, and Moridin mutually decided on. Showing up to **** on this thread while contributing nothing is unimpressive.
Post by: fropsie on Fri, 28 August 2020, 17:44:15
So I take it you didn't get licensing for the set, hence the snaking around the logos by putting dots on various points?
Not impressed.
That's a pretty dumb take. Read the thread. He tried, CDPR told him that they can't get back to him for MANY months, potentially 2021 from what I remember. This was the alternative that we, as a group, and Moridin mutually decided on. Showing up to **** on this thread while contributing nothing is unimpressive.
Oh you needed to wait till 2021?
Post by: razor_blade on Fri, 28 August 2020, 17:56:03
So I take it you didn't get licensing for the set, hence the snaking around the logos by putting dots on various points?
Not impressed.
That's a pretty dumb take. Read the thread. He tried, CDPR told him that they can't get back to him for MANY months, potentially 2021 from what I remember. This was the alternative that we, as a group, and Moridin mutually decided on. Showing up to **** on this thread while contributing nothing is unimpressive.
Oh you needed to wait till 2021?
At this rate, most of us won't even make it to 2021. LOL
Post by: break on Fri, 28 August 2020, 19:36:26
So I take it you didn't get licensing for the set, hence the snaking around the logos by putting dots on various points?
Not impressed.
That's a pretty dumb take. Read the thread. He tried, CDPR told him that they can't get back to him for MANY months, potentially 2021 from what I remember. This was the alternative that we, as a group, and Moridin mutually decided on. Showing up to **** on this thread while contributing nothing is unimpressive.
Ignoring the ad hominem here, no response from a license holder is not the same as clear agreement. Running this set without a clear response from CDPR puts both the designer and the set vendors at risk. “We asked but you didn’t respond quickly enough for us” doesn’t stand up as a legal defense.
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Fri, 28 August 2020, 20:44:41
It’s a really nice set, and I’d love to see it made officially. Delaying this GB until the legal logistics can be worked out, with Netflix and CDPR both contacted to ensure no infringement, would be the best solution.
They licensed the Witcher logo to be put on a coffee mug. I’m fairly certain they’d be happy to license it to a custom keyset; they just need to be paid for the use of their art.
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Fri, 28 August 2020, 20:53:44
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 22:48:30
“Purchasing a license” isn’t as simple as you make it out to be. I know the path, they know the path, it includes contracts and months of legal work, which they can’t devote their time to at the moment. 2021 Q2 is the earliest they were willing to start discussing all the details. That would put this set’s production into 2022.
Wait until you see what we’ve come up with.
Post by: Panchi on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:01:07
Post by: Pluto19 on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:03:39
Wait until you see what we’ve come up with.Have you come up with the data?
Post by: fropsie on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:24:23
All the novelties will be unique and free from IP infringement. I tried, I gave it a few months of my time, but they’re obviously “all hands on deck” with Cyberpunk.
“Purchasing a license” isn’t as simple as you make it out to be. I know the path, they know the path, it includes contracts and months of legal work, which they can’t devote their time to at the moment. 2021 Q2 is the earliest they were willing to start discussing all the details. That would put this set’s production into 2022.
Wait until you see what we’ve come up with.
So what you're saying is that you didn't want to wait to have an actual licensed set produced, and instead modified/infringed on IP in order to run your set sooner....
This is just getting funnier and funnier as it goes.
Honestly, I don't care what you've "come up with", all this proves is that this hobby is spiraling downwards.
Maybe put the months of contracts and legal work and communication into an actual approved set instead of just pulling **** like this.
It is deplorable, and should have no place in this community.
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:26:58
All the novelties will be unique and free from IP infringement. I tried, I gave it a few months of my time, but they’re obviously “all hands on deck” with Cyberpunk.
“Purchasing a license” isn’t as simple as you make it out to be. I know the path, they know the path, it includes contracts and months of legal work, which they can’t devote their time to at the moment. 2021 Q2 is the earliest they were willing to start discussing all the details. That would put this set’s production into 2022.
Wait until you see what we’ve come up with.
I’m confused now. The novelties you’re going to GB with aren’t the ones currently pictured?
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:36:54
All the novelties will be unique and free from IP infringement. I tried, I gave it a few months of my time, but they’re obviously “all hands on deck” with Cyberpunk.
“Purchasing a license” isn’t as simple as you make it out to be. I know the path, they know the path, it includes contracts and months of legal work, which they can’t devote their time to at the moment. 2021 Q2 is the earliest they were willing to start discussing all the details. That would put this set’s production into 2022.
Wait until you see what we’ve come up with.
I’m confused now. The novelties you’re going to GB with aren’t the ones currently pictured?
I was referring to the first design, using the game elements from CDPR.
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:39:19
So what you're saying is that you didn't want to wait to have an actual licensed set produced, and instead modified/infringed on IP in order to run your set sooner....
This is just getting funnier and funnier as it goes.
Honestly, I don't care what you've "come up with", all this proves is that this hobby is spiraling downwards.
Maybe put the months of contracts and legal work and communication into an actual approved set instead of just pulling **** like this.
It is deplorable, and should have no place in this community.
No, that’s not what I’m saying.
Post by: fropsie on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:47:44
So what you're saying is that you didn't want to wait to have an actual licensed set produced, and instead modified/infringed on IP in order to run your set sooner....
This is just getting funnier and funnier as it goes.
Honestly, I don't care what you've "come up with", all this proves is that this hobby is spiraling downwards.
Maybe put the months of contracts and legal work and communication into an actual approved set instead of just pulling **** like this.
It is deplorable, and should have no place in this community.
No, that’s not what I’m saying.
Well then if you are inferring a rework in novelties prior to GB (which I believe is in what? around 4/5 days now), then I am interested to see what you have planned.
Best of luck.
Post by: DuellM on Fri, 28 August 2020, 23:55:32
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Sat, 29 August 2020, 01:28:37
I am a HUGE Witcher fan and will probably but 3-5 sets. I am not ok with the current sign designs. I loved how you started, loved the light grey alphas, the Fu** key xD. And then? I really hate the sign design you have now. And I would love to see the old ones back. I know CDPR is in a hurry right now, but when they release Cyberpunk maybe they aren't anymore.
I as a keyboard enthusiast and a Witcher fan would love to wait one or two years longer and am willing to pay a premium, if the set gets what it deserves.
Maybe it is only my opinion, but I think such a Witcher set is a one time chance and PLEASE do it good. Have passion as big as I have and wait. Speak with CDPR with Netflix. This community is huge, if you ask on reddit maybe there's someone, willing to help you speaking to them.
Do what's in your possibilities but please don't do it wrong or because you want the set to be finished.
Post by: Butterbeer on Sat, 29 August 2020, 03:34:51
Consider the possibility that CDPR likes the idea, but decides to partner with a vendor to do an officially licensed set instead. Instead of this beautifully designed set, the community is left with a half-baked version of an officially licensed Star Wars set. See reference Star Wars sets
According to Wikipedia, The Witcher has been around since 1980. So this set is long past due! If any true fans wanted to get this set made they would have done it a long time ago.
Post by: mark.l.ashworth on Sat, 29 August 2020, 03:47:34
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Post by: Moridin on Sat, 29 August 2020, 06:51:01
Butterbeer basically encompassed all my worries into a short paragraph (or was it 2). Thanks.
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 29 August 2020, 06:51:56
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 29 August 2020, 07:15:19
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 29 August 2020, 07:47:21
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Sat, 29 August 2020, 10:17:30
So I believe when the GB starts it is to 100% the best you could have achieved.
Post by: alper_maestro on Sat, 29 August 2020, 16:40:52
Post by: break on Sat, 29 August 2020, 23:31:35
I just don't want you all to discover you've inadvertently played yourself after six months of effort. That would suck for you, as Witcher fans, and for me, as a participant in the design side of this hobby.
Best of luck.
Post by: sevenseacat on Sun, 30 August 2020, 07:37:49
I mean, the first Indiana Jones movie was released in 1981. I love Indy, like many others. I grew up watching The Last Crusade late Saturday night. But the idea that an Indy set is "overdue" is just not...a thing, IMO. It's not. By your reason there are infinity permutations of meta-art that are "overdue." Where are our GoT, Metal Gear Solid or Teletubbies sets?
SA Night King ran a few years ago.
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 31 August 2020, 13:09:16
they look fine. just thinking about those abomination star wars sets makes me puke. please proceed!
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 31 August 2020, 15:03:27
Geralt has two.
A steel one, for humans.
A silver one, for monsters.
The suggestion was to use the Shift keys for both swords.
Thing is... he only uses one sword at a time.
So you will have a choice. Steel or silver... *** or *********.
Post by: Bobatype on Mon, 31 August 2020, 18:24:12
I truly hope you don't get ceased and desisted.
The base kit colour scheme is a bit bland personally, making the novelty accent colours, kind of a must. I wish there was a touch of blood red as an accent option as well.
Post by: fishymango on Wed, 02 September 2020, 11:16:28
Post by: Lastpadawan on Wed, 02 September 2020, 23:29:58
Post by: Domantas on Thu, 03 September 2020, 08:19:20
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 03 September 2020, 11:34:14
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Statement
White Wolf will be put on hold due to actions beyond our control. GMK has decided not to run it, despite running the design through a copyright lawyer, who gave me the all clear. We will respect their decision and evaluate how to move forward.
Or as Geralt would say... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLW6o6zQfg)
I would also like to personally thank Garret from Dixie Mech — he has been wonderfully supportive of the whole set, expanding the kits composition, and has tried to move heaven and earth to make it happen.
Post by: steezkeez on Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:17:59
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:46:18
Post by: haystack on Thu, 03 September 2020, 13:08:32
Post by: fropsie on Thu, 03 September 2020, 13:35:47
Best of luck with your future endeavors.
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 03 September 2020, 16:23:55
Post by: break on Thu, 03 September 2020, 16:26:56
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 03 September 2020, 17:03:05
I think we've all learned an important lesson here, which is that IP infringement is only acceptable if it involves an anime character.
top tier
Post by: GMK_Andy on Thu, 03 September 2020, 18:46:52
With this being said, we have already mentioned to the appropriate parties that we are happy to move forward with this project as soon as an official license has been granted by the studio or we have written evidence by the studio that confirms that the current design doesn't infringe their IP and they are waiving any legal action.
We never want to see a project not happen are hope to see this come to fruition as soon as possible!
If you do have direct questions regarding this please don't hesitate to reach out to me and I'll try to answer them as prompty as I can!
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 04 September 2020, 01:41:33
- I have already had an unbiased EU-based copyright lawyer sign off on the design, after analysing our final kits.
- There is no way to realistically get written permission from a large studio, confirming a design does not infringe on their copyrights (I had unofficial verbal confirmation from them, but this is obviously not admissible).
Cheers everyone and have a wonderful day! 🍻
Post by: fatalruin on Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:22:29
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:12:53
I would just like to add two things, with no disrespect to any party involved, but just as a clarification to my earlier post:
- I have already had an unbiased EU-based copyright lawyer sign off on the design, after analysing our final kits.
- There is no way to realistically get written permission from a large studio, confirming a design does not infringe on their copyrights (I had unofficial verbal confirmation from them, but this is obviously not admissible).
Cheers everyone and have a wonderful day! 🍻
Man, i just don't understand what's happening here. But anything Moridin puts out, i'll cop. :thumb:
Post by: udller on Wed, 09 September 2020, 11:25:38
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 09 September 2020, 12:10:55
Post by: Peko on Wed, 09 September 2020, 15:12:18
Post by: udller on Wed, 09 September 2020, 20:56:34
Post by: VagueOrigin on Wed, 09 September 2020, 23:16:03
Due to the growth of the hobby there have been a large spike in projects and ideas being proposed to us. We can't possibly do research on our own and make sure each and every set is original and free from infringements, and have at times struggled with this in the past. Therefore, we are adding a clause to our contracts with the vendors in which we define that it is the vendor's responsibility to check for IP/Copyright violations, and in case of legal action from studios/IP holders that the vendor and designer will be solely responsible for all liabilities and financial damages. After these contracts are in place this should help mitigate this issue from happening down the line.This sounds NUTS...
With this being said, we have already mentioned to the appropriate parties that we are happy to move forward with this project as soon as an official license has been granted by the studio or we have written evidence by the studio that confirms that the current design doesn't infringe their IP and they are waiving any legal action.
We never want to see a project not happen are hope to see this come to fruition as soon as possible!
If you do have direct questions regarding this please don't hesitate to reach out to me and I'll try to answer them as prompty as I can!
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Post by: Suli on Thu, 10 September 2020, 01:38:59
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 10 September 2020, 02:04:48
Is it possible to just run the set without novelties, and run the novelties add-on kit after the written-permission is granted?What is the purpose of running the set without the novelties, which makes basically the whole 'Witcher' theme? Does not make any sense.
Post by: bobgr8 on Thu, 10 September 2020, 07:18:43
Post by: MIXO Cables on Sun, 13 September 2020, 22:57:19
Post by: VoodooBear on Sat, 10 October 2020, 01:01:54
I would just like to add two things, with no disrespect to any party involved, but just as a clarification to my earlier post:
- I have already had an unbiased EU-based copyright lawyer sign off on the design, after analysing our final kits.
- There is no way to realistically get written permission from a large studio, confirming a design does not infringe on their copyrights (I had unofficial verbal confirmation from them, but this is obviously not admissible).
Cheers everyone and have a wonderful day! 🍻
It's not only unrealistic, it's flat out insane. How do they expect the studio to confirm something *doesn't* infringe on their IP? If there were questions regarding that, then there's reasonable concern that there's infringement in the first place. If there's no infringement, then there's no need to get confirmation from anyone anyway.
What's weird is that GMK has picked up sets in the past and are *still* picking up sets right now that are way more obvious and in some cases just flat out blatant infringement.
This is plain ridiculous and I hope you launch this w/ JTK or maybe even go KAT or something.
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 21 October 2020, 10:03:34
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 21 October 2020, 11:12:36
Post by: boneandbee on Wed, 21 October 2020, 14:28:35
Post by: helborne on Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:12:13
Post by: break on Tue, 27 October 2020, 14:54:52
It feels like OP actually got screwed by doing any work towards the copyright. It seems like its better off not mentioning it all so GMK can say they never had the conversation, vs putting the cards on the table and letting GMK make the call, which they dont want to do. It is quite obvious they dont really care (100s of other sets with way worse infringement). Dont ask dont tell with GMK
Pleading ignorance is not a particularly legal effective strategy. Also note that IP laws work differently in Japan than elsewhere, which unlocks a lot of anime-themed keysets for GB.
Post by: GMK_Andy on Wed, 02 December 2020, 13:15:25
Dont ask dont tell with GMK
We don't live under rocks, many of us are Witcher fans even ;D
We are just very aware of copyright and trademark laws, and always do our due dilligance, for our protection, and the protection of our vendors.
I'm happy to sit down for a game of Gwent and disucss ways to creatively produce a set that would clearly give a nod to the Witcher universe without potentially crossing any lines :thumb:
As I mentioned before, if we have written permission from CDPR, obviously we will greenlight anything they have approved of as well. This has happened before in the community, notably with some Star Wars themed sets (and permission from Disney).
Post by: elmo on Tue, 08 December 2020, 14:19:24
Dont ask dont tell with GMK
We don't live under rocks, many of us are Witcher fans even ;D
We are just very aware of copyright and trademark laws, and always do our due dilligance, for our protection, and the protection of our vendors.
I'm happy to sit down for a game of Gwent and disucss ways to creatively produce a set that would clearly give a nod to the Witcher universe without potentially crossing any lines :thumb:
As I mentioned before, if we have written permission from CDPR, obviously we will greenlight anything they have approved of as well. This has happened before in the community, notably with some Star Wars themed sets (and permission from Disney).
If they even got a greenlight from a copyright lawyer then I don't understand the refusal to run it?
Unless the designer lied about that but I wouldn't expect that tbh...
Post by: mrvco on Tue, 08 December 2020, 15:16:51
Dont ask dont tell with GMK
We don't live under rocks, many of us are Witcher fans even ;D
We are just very aware of copyright and trademark laws, and always do our due dilligance, for our protection, and the protection of our vendors.
I'm happy to sit down for a game of Gwent and disucss ways to creatively produce a set that would clearly give a nod to the Witcher universe without potentially crossing any lines :thumb:
As I mentioned before, if we have written permission from CDPR, obviously we will greenlight anything they have approved of as well. This has happened before in the community, notably with some Star Wars themed sets (and permission from Disney).
If they even got a greenlight from a copyright lawyer then I don't understand the refusal to run it?
Unless the designer lied about that but I wouldn't expect that tbh...
Unfortunately copyright law is more about which party has the deepest pockets than anything. If you get on the radar of a large IP holder, then you're going to burn a lot of cash just getting to a point where your copyright lawyer can make their case. With so many 'inspired by' and 'homage' sets, it is interesting that this particular set triggered GMK.
Post by: lakeboredom on Tue, 08 December 2020, 16:21:06
Post by: underling on Tue, 08 December 2020, 18:52:43
Unfortunately copyright law is more about which party has the deepest pockets than anything. If you get on the radar of a large IP holder, then you're going to burn a lot of cash just getting to a point where your copyright lawyer can make their case. With so many 'inspired by' and 'homage' sets, it is interesting that this particular set triggered GMK.
I wonder how much of it has to do with Sapkowski's penchant for litigation? If not specifically because of his CDPR suits, just because of the noise and hassle of it if he decided to rattle a saber..
Really a bummer though, this set was really cool looking and I'm a huge Witcher fan.
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 08 December 2020, 20:54:37
Someone explain what exactly is in that set that is copy righted?
I'm just going to assume it's the wolf symbol, becasue that's about the only thing that makes even a little sense, just pick a different cool wolf symbol. There's like a billion out there. (The one Cloud uses is way better for instance.)
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Thu, 10 December 2020, 02:20:55
What exactly is copy righted in the set? That wolf symbol? (it doesn't look like the one I see on all the Witcher stuff, but i guess there could be more then one wolf symbol Witcher uses) The sword symbol? Those triangle and hourglass symbols?
Someone explain what exactly is in that set that is copy righted?
I'm just going to assume it's the wolf symbol, becasue that's about the only thing that makes even a little sense, just pick a different cool wolf symbol. There's like a billion out there. (The one Cloud uses is way better for instance.)
Probably the Witcher signs. Because he tried to redesign them (which in my opinion didn't turn out as good as the original ones). And GMK themselves probably don't want to get into trouble.
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Thu, 10 December 2020, 06:02:18
Plus, setting aside legal concerns, there’s also the problem of pi**ing off a major player in the entertainment business (Netflix). I’m sure GMK would like to be able to do officially licensed sets in the future, and running a high-profile knock-off (legal or not) doesn’t exactly endear you to future potential licensors.
Note that by “knock-off,” I’m not commenting on the quality of the hypothetical keyset. I’m sure it would have been great. But it still would have been unauthorized Witcher merchandise.
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Post by: _rubik on Mon, 06 September 2021, 01:01:32
I like the color and that is why I will buy this set if it comes out. Frankly, I don't like the sword art keys like the Enter key in the base set. I would like it more if we had accent keys in a different color (perhaps the same color as the letters) in the base set instead of the "art" keys.
Please re-read the OP (even the first paragraph will do) before digging up necro threads
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Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Thu, 04 November 2021, 14:20:24
surely theres going to be a game of thrones related artisan!
I think you might be in the wrong fantasy universe.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 04 November 2021, 18:12:51
This thread has been necro’d more than the night kings army.