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Title: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit (kit update)
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:39:02

IC Form (https://forms.gle/s1vPqePbb9M13ZmA8)

I would like feedback on the color combo and idea of running it as an alpha kit (based on notes below specifically for kitting). I do not have a current indication of GMKs new pricing for a kit like this, at this time.

A simple alpha addon kit, providing coverage alongside Drop’s WOB kit, or Qarmaa’s WOB Cyrillic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114783.0), to use on multiple boards.
The extra tab allows for complete coverage of a board with an alternate bottom row, while the extra pipe keys (to be added) will provide coverage with WOB Cyrillic (arabic has no subs on pipe).
Sublegends are UV Printed. UK ISO addon keys are included as well as the extra B for ergo layouts. This set has an entirely new set of sublegends

White on Black Addon:

(https://imgur.com/a2NBn4b.jpg)
Sublegend color - V2

Old kitting

Old kitting, and notes to be aware of:

- The current version is kitted out to have full compat with Drop's WOB kit.
- Will add Row 1, 2, 3, 4 pipe - for compat with Qarmaa’s WOB Cyrillic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114783.0) if you don't buy from Drop. Support Qarmaa!
- Z key has misalignment, will be fixed in render
- Parenthesis to be swapped
- < >, DF, CV to be swapped

For those wondering about swapped parenthesis, etc. This should not be done. Open MS word and check. It depends on the application's language settings, not just the OS.
If you're using Microsoft software, it will behave in a similar fashion to SAA. If you use a non-MS editor, or are in apps like discord, it will behave like Arabic 101 subs. I am sticking to SAA. See the difference here (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892662598405861376/893026584959811614/unknown.png).

(https://imgur.com/kzYjjj4.jpg)
Sublegend color - V2

Some notes on the thought process with the legends:

- Disconnected glyphs are being used for each sublegend, unlike SAA, which mostly uses the connected character variant. For the sake of consistency with this character version, the sub on "I" key will remain as ه
- Symbols are repeated on number row, a nod to many people's endgame Arabic set, SAA. This isn't necessary but for the sake of consistency, I wanted this

Vendors and Pricing

No vendors / pricing yet, I need to gauge interest

Renders

For now, just a kit render. Renderman is extremely busy right now too. I'll get one up ASAP <3

Credits

- Marco, your patience has been tested with this, thank you for the render work
- Qarmaa, of_sam, Swomi

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:39:35

Reserved for updates

I got a funny response to the google form already

Quote

I do not see the Islamic significance with orange, maybe a green would be nice

Green might be nice, but lets take a break for a second. There are plenty of people who speak arabic, and aren't Muslim. Please do not fill out the IC form with what has become "Green = Islam" joke in this scene. Orange was chosen because it looks good, and I have not seen many sets with it done in this fashion. Sidenote, if you live here, you'll know the desert is orange :p

2021/10/17 - Kit updated with missing pipe keys

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Qarmaa on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:40:11

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Shoobs on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:40:20

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: mixistor on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:42:45

yes

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: lalostad98 on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:43:03

POG, finally a set with good Arabic sub legends. I'm all in.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Bachoo on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:43:18

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: productkun on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:44:36

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Sicowa on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:44:55

Nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: sup3r170va on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:45:19

Nice. What colour will the Arabic sublegends be?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: 7h3of7 on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:45:45

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Branno on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:46:10

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: ephemeral25 on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:46:24

Nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Juan. on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:47:07

its beautiful :D

(but its missing the islamic green)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: whirlwind on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:48:19

Nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:53:29

Quote from: sup3r170va on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:45:19

Nice. What colour will the Arabic sublegends be?

Using GMK's V2 orange. It looks fantastic imo, but im always open to feedback :D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Bunn3y on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:54:10

gaynut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: lovidore on Wed, 29 September 2021, 02:11:54

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Fraaaan on Wed, 29 September 2021, 02:56:06

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Klyback on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:03:20

not a fan of WoB but as someone who uses Arabic a lot, I support this. :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: suffeler on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:03:48

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:21:49

You can't have partial ISO-UK support and then have R4 1u <>. It's either one (full ISO-UK) or the other (terminal ISO).
On a separate note, I think it makes little sense to base the kit's ISO support on ISO-UK when there is an actual ISO-AR layout (Arabic 102) that can be used.

Speaking of which, there are two types of Arabic keyboard layout: 101 and the aforementioned 102, and your kit seems to only cover one of those types (101).

I believe the parentheses on the Arabic layer should be flipped: 9 → ), 0 → (.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: kk73715 on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:38:02

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:39:00

Quote from: konstantin on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:21:49

You can't have partial ISO-UK support and then have R4 1u <>. It's either one (full ISO-UK) or the other (terminal ISO).
On a separate note, I think it makes little sense to base the kit's ISO support on ISO-UK when there is an actual ISO-AR layout (Arabic 102) that can be used.

Speaking of which, there are two types of Arabic keyboard layout: 101 and the aforementioned 102, and your kit seems to only cover one of those types (101).

I believe the parentheses on the Arabic layer should be flipped: 9 → ), 0 → (.

If you check above the kit render, I am adding the necessary pipe keys to fill out ISO support. The current kit supports coverage for Drops kit, and is being updated to full ISO coverage

Yes, youre correct, parenthesis need to be swapped. Stupid mistake, thanks for spotting it <3 whilst checking i realized i swapped < and > too.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Pyroo on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:40:42

Nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 29 September 2021, 03:53:08

102 coverage would be nice, but it would require a substantially bigger kit as there are at least another 10 keys to be altered. It would make this a fair bit more expensive too - I would be fine with running it but I'm not sure if thats a cost people would be willing to pay for what is essentially a simple addon.
Adding subs on the UK ISO variant makes a lot more sense for people i have already spoken to. Honestly if I was running 102 i would prefer a full kit.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Uryftw on Wed, 29 September 2021, 04:00:13

nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: sourmk on Wed, 29 September 2021, 04:02:22

Fresh as a sliced pan there Pauly

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: denibhoxha on Wed, 29 September 2021, 05:31:39

almond

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: totalemon on Wed, 29 September 2021, 06:03:36

I'm in. Could look really nice with dolch mods

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Vono on Wed, 29 September 2021, 06:38:25

I'm in! Very good

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: of_sam on Wed, 29 September 2021, 06:44:26

I will nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: infectedqt on Wed, 29 September 2021, 07:05:04

chai a7mar nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Neely_12 on Wed, 29 September 2021, 07:34:05

It's so good. Please add a blue kit. Good luck!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: hali on Wed, 29 September 2021, 08:00:07

ily

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Baka Bot on Wed, 29 September 2021, 08:55:33

gib

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: JomiKarloz on Wed, 29 September 2021, 10:00:12

PeaNut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: sub0001 on Wed, 29 September 2021, 11:32:30

insta cop

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: derpturtle on Wed, 29 September 2021, 12:36:16

This is it

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Wed, 29 September 2021, 15:04:32

I'm down

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Kinesiologist on Wed, 29 September 2021, 18:58:09

yes please

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Remsky on Wed, 29 September 2021, 19:24:54

hot af

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 30 September 2021, 08:58:31

For those wondering about swapped parenthesis, etc. This should not be done. Open MS word and check. It depends on the application's language settings, not just the OS.
If you're using Microsoft software, it will behave in a similar fashion to SAA. If you use a non-MS editor, or are in apps like discord, it will behave like Arabic 101 subs. I am sticking to SAA. See the difference here (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892662598405861376/893026584959811614/unknown.png)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 04 October 2021, 21:49:44

this is sick

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: IMZO on Mon, 04 October 2021, 21:58:01

cashew

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: RA Can on Tue, 05 October 2021, 05:35:54

YES!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit
Post by: Dyto69 on Tue, 05 October 2021, 06:07:50

nut?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit (kit update)
Post by: Kokoboro on Sun, 26 December 2021, 03:53:14

Fat nut

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit (kit update)
Post by: ephemeral25 on Fri, 18 February 2022, 10:16:50

This deserves more love so I am just gonna up it in the list :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit (kit update)
Post by: blunt on Thu, 11 August 2022, 18:45:47

Make this happen

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WOB Arabic Addon Kit (kit update)
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 12 August 2023, 15:29:50

New discussion about this on SMES's Discord server - https://discord.gg/ue28b3GS