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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: LaminarDesigns on Sat, 10 December 2022, 17:20:27
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BOOMERANG
8-degree split 60XT
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029780001861677156/1116411935886418000/DSCF1600.jpg) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029780001861677156/1116411935274053682/DSCF1607.png)
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/vRosAgrMWK4N2hkU7)
INTRODUCTION
I always loved the FLX virgo but I knew I would not use the nav cluster if I got one, so I decided to make my own version of the layout. That is it. No introduction or drawn-out inspiration. I wanted something so I made it. If you also like what you see, then well fill in the IC. If you don't, thanks for reading this.
DETAILS AND TECHNICAL INFORMATION
- Materials: Copper weight, aluminum top/bottom
- Dedicated ANSI/ISO plates. Ansi shown below.
- Hot-swap and solder PCBs
- Typing angle: 6.5 degrees
- Split angle: 8 degrees
- Front height: ~18.1 adjusted at lowest point.
- Weight: ~2.4 kg built
- 2 mm diameter o-ring
- M3x10 front screws, M3x20 back screws
- Fly DB, MOLEX-MOLEX. No daughterboard cutout on bottom of case
- Through-weight design
- WRIST REST WILL BE OFFERED
- Mounting: o-ring wraps around the plate tabs, like F1 but self-aligning.
Assembly to be shown in detail when prototype arrives. In a nutshell the oring wraps around the plate tabs, like F1 but self-aligning.
(https://i.imgur.com/pePUAPx.png)
ASSEMBLY
I have made 4 prototypes:
- Fully F1 oring mount: Did not like it, assembly was horrible and it just did not work well.
- Partial oring with screw underneath: It worked and was good but it was hard to show how much to tighten screw, so option 4 was made
- Top mount: I went a bit crazy and made a top-mount version: It is amazing but in the end I made option 4
- Fully F1 oring mount, fully wrapping: I made another board with this exact same mount and the experience was perfect, so I took the exact dimensions and translated them here. That is it.
ALIGNMENT
In the photo below, the blue highlighted area are the alignment and force-break orings. To be clear the force break aspect is an added bonus, not to fix any ping, there is no ping whatsoever. The only reason for the orings is to align the top-bottom cases without using pins or metal alignment tabs. I want as little metal-metal contact.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1146517584917835937/image.png?width=1080&height=473)
MOUNTING
The way the board is mounted is super simple. You take the oring, slot it into the cutouts on the tabs and you place it on top of the board. Because of how the board is designed this is self-aligning, meaning the plate will always be in the correct position. I will explain this when the prototype arrives, but you can see how in the up-down direction the oring is constrained by the plate and then once again by the channel underneath, so it cannot move up-down out of alignment. Side-side same thing, the oring has nowhere to go and will always stay in the channel.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837447303358185483/1150193667533975673/image.png?width=1080&height=327)
Additionally, those with a keen eye can see that the leaf spring is shifted to the outside of the tab. This is because the inside of the tab is supported by the adjacent tab, but the extremes of the tabs (left and right bezels basically) those are supported only by 1 tab, so you have to make them stiffer for the board to feel homogeneous throughout.
WRIST REST INFORMATION
For those who did not pay attention and said that the wrist rest made out of aluminum is pointless, please refer to the silver render. While the wrist rest is indeed made out of aluminum, I added rubber stoppers to avoid metal on metal contact. I have added the render where this is shown below for reference:
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/vjUM4aewSLWeKjQqowRzfgC3oEEIlfuJdzKyl-2xOolomPiUUTDPggaywXMIy6qKukLRFLh7m4MUvzt0SYPGQgWRKHZAovRL0DofdEd2Tc8BjIznBGXniTFf1XToCEINoIhafJqNEvCl3sKSJ2Tvy9ohpC_nog)
I have tested this and due to the geometry of the bottom, with 2 feet, one on either side there is zero metal contact. However, due to popular demand I have also quoted PC for those who rather get that instead.
RENDERS
Powder-coated beige
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/NoK4uf8j6NYDuh0JC5Tqe7DkrYCEyEYZykR21fIg4S7ll0SwNKXDm0SvRedX5XV-uzuPnzHfRdXVidyIpYB2faT4fH8RTi8OidE73Ixj5NXh6vQ5U27wWWyKa3TvGpv1Ai9qs6m3FtSvcF6KsxJAsCkswxvPSQ)
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/v0V-8h8fUGqILfSiqTgEKJTJ57oYiYzrhEWa9J46rC4dLRwRg4fzL4FoQm0st0mLSfUk2kP3Fhwbk8Irln-NhwMZGzdjyhv6YdcTv7vnYkELG8b7nccc7mTDzsHzkLm0A-mSASzRoW6qIKp4XILOS44Mb9sTMg)
Anodized Dark Green
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/mhxUW-MBDIhtvROHwAPrZiP5VzRRgLE7GQEt0aktPPPvohXtYIqBf2nJlMfRQhZI9MRpVgf1lz3QLjKiVwei170NzT8OnxIjJeXNFAQVO0kOqqrKfrt7E0_ey1nCmKnpKMOFtGRJ7GyocrJmbrxLsSacOkwTbA)
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/MxSf8GLJNo8gs2TftEjngV55Mhcnkchum5usRV_I4sxKVeLVy0EQlvn3a5hXQ-kbej_A7C_rS46gGpPW6a8k3b7R6iwnO7nBjtjSN7eLF8G2__OURna7Jju33KL0QFLYbgLjQOgVyKCik3ibsfjqyzi3KObeMw)
Powder-coated Meteorite Gray
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/baOUaxB7sAtdU3kPwTYTC_21AgjTdtru9rByR88SlgaxDB-SuzwYv6YETWMMb-LY5MVkXUcHRqOl87fmuB8RbkP85ZSDeVDHa5mtXi08tuY7b7DbZiTKhZpzym-0iWhBaLk653QTFDCyJN5RjY9irtyeKF85Jg)
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/2UukVX1Hahe61v7OCDEcBZ_GdZDarNxQLVDRdgepicgcO8ShzC35sVZyobJ8xNfdb19WXSBuC5X_9tIi2t_gRuy0_C5uESxS8cFK073ZPPwqqZJIg7KPKFD4ttIGN3aI8rrI67jlMdiSNBU-X3xBLDC_sCMLEw)
Anodized Silver
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/vjUM4aewSLWeKjQqowRzfgC3oEEIlfuJdzKyl-2xOolomPiUUTDPggaywXMIy6qKukLRFLh7m4MUvzt0SYPGQgWRKHZAovRL0DofdEd2Tc8BjIznBGXniTFf1XToCEINoIhafJqNEvCl3sKSJ2Tvy9ohpC_nog)
(https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/SnqqWyl7Ayt0s4QOSliex3JRhDTVt8anXrSHFHhX-LA_kWfy--HfzNHYKnqJY_dE62h3ilE0SuoKP6SvMd5MIUno46ucGzh7SIdN9Uu-gks_mFiqCcoatOM36rf4zyrjbrjFiInHcOrVo5i7_ugKmaGqnmwK7Q)
Anodized Purple
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1170504836593221684/B11a.png?ex=65594893&is=6546d393&hm=2112c1a67f3e3a4b7bd1031e8d39eff6e649a5b46766edcce4fa44b86a2cbde1&=&width=1080&height=608)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1170504838803640401/B10a.png?ex=65594894&is=6546d394&hm=1417438f146c85f33ac4fea433f90105d773dd37328601ac9694c9e991569703&=&width=1080&height=608)
PROTOTYPE PICTURES COLORS NOT DECIDED, THESE WERE FROM V2 PROTOTYPES
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1113861267824848967/purple_boomerang.jpeg?width=1080&height=721)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1113861268344946819/Darkgray_boomerang.jpeg?width=1080&height=721)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1113861268940533812/Green_boomerang.jpeg?width=1080&height=721)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029780001861677156/1113861269368340480/silver_boomerang.jpeg?width=1080&height=721)
SALE INFORMATION
- Units will be announced soon
- Sale will be in-stock. Projected Q1 2024
- MSRP of $350, aluminum wrist rest will be $60
- Colors will be: Raw, anodized green purple and silver, powder coated beige, meteorite gray. Please see renders above.
- Vendor information to be disclosed in the near future.
CONTACT
My Discord server: https://discord.gg/nWXrcdX8uN (https://discord.gg/nWXrcdX8uN)
Most updates will be posted on my server as well as Geekhack.
SPECIAL THANKS
This project would not have been possible without the members of my discord server. Thank you!!
Manu, who helped me with every step of the way! Gracias puto
Special thanks to Chonk, for supporting me blindly; Peppy for putting up with my bull**** and Manu for yelling at me here and there.
And obviously Zetina, for the amazing renders.
Lastly Baul, Lento and Peppy for helping me clean up the bottom row and yelling at me to fix the horrible initial one. You guys rock
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Update log:
12/12/2022
- Added Alps support to pcb.
- Included information about possible Topre kit offered. Confirmation on this to come soon.
12/14/2022
- prototype has completed CNC/QC and is shipping to me this week.
- PCB is ready and being ordered this week. Expected to be delivered in 2 weeks.
- Once prototype arrives I will take pictures/make video of assembly.
12/17/2022
-Prototype has shipped, PCB ordered.
-Other components: Different o-rings arrived, geon feet arrived. Prototype pictures look fantastic.
09/09/2023
-Finalized design
-Thread has been updated with relevant information
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oh yeah this is it
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Banger after banger
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Yep, just take all my money!!!! :eek: ;D
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I can't wait for the release :p
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Boomerang's signature has been added!
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Very cool, looking forward to this!
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are you sure that plate supports split right shift?
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are you sure that plate supports split right shift?
Renders were done and I did not want to pay again to remake them, but yes split right shift will be supported as per the supported layouts image. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Another banger lammy :3
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Very nice mate, looks fantastic!
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and you, young @laminardesigns we will watch your career with great interest
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This is awesome!! Definitely following.
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Absolutely love the board.
What I love even more is that I've been toying with this exact idea myself for some months now (my inspiration was the 4GT sabre) but the fact that you've got there before me means I now won't have to bother to do it myself!
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I want this board on my desk
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wow laminar always slaps i love this
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i love this board! is absolute amazing! can't wait to buy it haha!
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Very cool design, love the second B on the right, personally still a big user of it
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Lovely design, I like how you did the centred USB port and the copper weight looks great.
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Love the design, the colors and the ISO layout availability. Will keep an eye on it!
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YES PLEASE
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Added information to reserved comment with change log. Thanks for the interest everyone, information to come soon.
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damn i love this
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Another banger, good job!
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This is one of my favorite keyboard designs of the year. Something different and down my alley. GLWIC
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Hmmm, whats that grey/multicolor keyset on the second render? Looks abosolutely sick imo
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Very cool!
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Looking forward to this!
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actual banger.
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double banger if it is in addition to topre
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Definitely love this project. Nice colours choices, very involved with feedbacks. All the best to you for 2023!
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Hmmm not sure what to think but interested.
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some of the renders look more like ano champagne than an e-beige - which would actually be fire!
board/renders looks great though. glwic!
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Cool
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(https://i.imgur.com/gJbTwEO.png)
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Working on revamping the IC, lots of new developments and information. I have ordered 10 prototypes to test out 10 different colors. The tentative ETA is a month till delivery.
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sexy yes
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any more updates?
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any more updates?
I am working on it, I posted some snippets on my discord if you want to go check it out, but I will be revamping the IC with the new information in the coming weeks!
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How elegant it is!
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perfect keyboard
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so balanced.....so perfect.
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Been thinking about you boomerang. This is the one board I’m waiting for <3
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if this is manufactured in australia that would be neat.
otherwise is this not cultural appropriation ?
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if this is manufactured in australia that would be neat.
otherwise is this not cultural appropriation ?
even if it were manufactured in Australia, you'd need a factory run only by aboriginals ;)
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if this is manufactured in australia that would be neat.
otherwise is this not cultural appropriation ?
I almost died laughing after reading this, thank you so much
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IC HAS BEEN REVAMPED
Relevant information has been added, as soon as final pre-production samples arrive I will show the final design in a video.
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Lets go! Can't wait to see how the coating samples come out.
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Can't wait for this board! I have a proto and it is already great, the changes to the mounting will send this board into the stratosphere.
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Super pumped for this board, the mounting updates look great and I'm excited to try it when the board releases!
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boobs out for booberang
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its beautiful :-[
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Holy Prototypes batman! Still want plz gib
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Update coming in the coming days, I am now working with vendors and my team to finalize everything.
If you haven't filled the IC, please do as it helps me gauge interest.
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The weight looks ****ing good man
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It's so cool! Will there be a corresponding sized hand rest?
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It's so cool! Will there be a corresponding sized hand rest?
Someone has been paying attention! Yes, there will be a wrist rest. Below is a lil sneak peak of the design, but all of this will be posted when the update goes live. Each color will have its own matched wrist rest. :thumb:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1154499776776253610/1158430046374080592/4a.png?hex=65490a8d&is=6536958d&hm=d3545463fda053efebf63632678cf45b71ffd1b85e0dd29d323df1e8c0fe17c5&=&width=1080&height=608)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1154499776776253610/1158430047082922156/5a.png?ex=65490a8d&is=6536958d&hm=504f44df714188e33fe95930b345c78c705258e4b144d817e3d3f29e3abdf023&=&width=1080&height=608)
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Any possibility i could successfully beg for some alps support on the PCB?
Please?
:( :-[
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I have updated the thread with the following information:
- Sale type
- MSRP
- Updated renders
- Projected sale quarter
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fuiyohhhh
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New details are all great to hear. Would be interested in knowing a little more about the green colour, as I currently have a very grassy green board and am looking for something with a little more blue in it (compare ral 6010 to ral 6029). Honestly that purple is extremely nice though so maybe it doesn't matter...
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In Stock Q1. Fantastic! Meteor Grey here we come.
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I have updated the thread with the following information:
- Sale type
- MSRP
- Updated renders
- Projected sale quarter
Good ****e! Looking so forward to this board, fingers crossed I am fast enough to grab one. The ALPS support put it's over the top for me!
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CNC Acrylic/PC Wrist rests pls. ;D
Or open source files so that people can make their own.
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We care very much about our views and opinions and look forward to meeting you all on the keyboard. :thumb:
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CNC Acrylic/PC Wrist rests pls. ;D
Or open source files so that people can make their own.
Due to popular demand I asked for quotes on this. If the price is manageable given the MOQ I will do it. Will update when I know more.
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Added section to highlight the rubber stoppers on wrist rest. Also fixed some typos I found :eek:
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Price point is crazy, wristrest really completes the design, gonna be hard to not convince myself to get one haha
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I love this balanced Alice. Looks much more rigid and sharp than normal Alice.
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I've been interested every step of the way, but the price of the board and wrist rest amaze me still. Great stuff, and can't wait for the sale! Beige all the way :-*
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what will the final finish on the copper weight be - coated or raw?
also, the color options are fire! all my faves haha
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what will the final finish on the copper weight be - coated or raw?
also, the color options are fire! all my faves haha
We are prepping some cool stuff, those two will be offered with some extra spicy stuff as well :p
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Very nice mate, looks fantastic!
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Considering the needs of different people in terms of typing feel :thumb:
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:thumb:
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Considering the needs of different people in terms of typing feel :thumb:
When the drop happens I will post the plate files so that people can make their own. Both leaf spring and non-leaf spring will be posted. :thumb:
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Rush rush rush, purple is calling my name. GLWIC
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The bottom looks like someone bent reflection frl. The shape of the weight, same feet, it's uncanny.
Not saying this is derivative, it's just impossible not to notice. I like both boards fwiw, glwic
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The bottom looks like someone bent reflection frl. The shape of the weight, same feet, it's uncanny.
Not saying this is derivative, it's just impossible not to notice. I like both boards fwiw, glwic
You do realize that the IC for this was posted half a year before Reflection, right? lol
It always had this weight design and feet.
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oh this ones definitely going on my list...its so cool