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Is the Alice layout actually ergonomic?

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MajorKoos:
Sadly not.
it was a one-off GB that ran years ago.
Next closest thing is the FLX Virgo:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104617.0

nevin:
you could pretty easily recreate it with a spaced plate handwire or sandwich style (stacked) layered case (if that would be acceptable)

Findecanor:

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--- Quote from: Findecanor on Mon, 04 January 2021, 13:39:37 ---Others might yell at you to get a columnar or ortholinear ("ortho") keyboard (because that is what they use) but I think those would require more tenting to avoid forearm pronation than with staggered keyboards.

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I do not see how would columnar design require more tenting.

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I think most people type with the right hand having a slight wrist angle against the keyboard plane on row-staggered keyboards, whereas the wrist is often perfectly parallel to the keyboard plane on columnar keyboards.

There is a lot of variation on how people type on the left side of a traditional row-staggered keyboard. Some people orient their hands so that the columns become Y-G-V, T-F-C, etc. in which case there is some wrist angle on that side as well.

MajorKoos:
LZ Ergo is what got me into the keyboard hobby in the first place.


LZ Ergo, TS65 and 3 x VE.A
I recently ported the LZ Ergo and VE.A to QMK + VIA :)


3d printed Alice clones


An Em.7 and a Prime Elise


My Favorite LZ Ergo


Good old Ergodox.  Hate the layout.


The SP-111 turned out way nicer than I expected and is my #2 favorite ergo.


LZ Physix.  Alice in a 65% layout that makes sense.

pmdbt:

--- Quote ---LZ Ergo is what got me into the keyboard hobby in the first place.

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Amazing collection, thank you so much for sharing!!! I'm going to keep an eye out for any upcoming ergo group buys :)

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