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Offline nguyenhimself

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[IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 11:57:35 »
I’m in either way, but OP, would you consider a more... muted colorway while still keeping the beige look?
I’m not talking “GMK Muted” muted, but something like a lighter share of brown for the mods.  Similar to what GMK Modern Dolch did to Dolch.
Just some thoughts :)
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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 15:49:08 »
The only thing I would say is I think the grey on the modifiers can be a tad bit lighter. Love this set!

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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 18:22:49 »
Unlike a couple other opinions offered, I really like the colors exactly as you have them in the renders right now. I think what you have captures the intended aesthetic perfectly. I would buy this without hesitation.

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 18:57:41 »
This looks great. Clean and classy. I think the colours are good as is, but small adjustments to the mod colour wouldn't trouble me by any means.

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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 06:50:01 »
Count me in !!!!!!! Cant wait for this!!!!!

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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 10:04:05 »
Soo lit! love it!

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 19:42:56 »
The shade of beige will probably differ from the render a bit.
I'm planning on asking ePBT to use the same color they use for their super generic white/beige sets.

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 09:01:47 »
Absolutely love this set

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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 12:32:24 »
TOOOOOOOOOOO many Japanese keysets……Just getting tired of it.
But I'm in

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 14 June 2019, 16:36:16 »
Any updates?

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« Reply #60 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 19:39:46 »
Any updates?

Currently discussing with ePBT regarding new homing keys (I.e. scooped only) that don't interfere with the cross legends. Once such things are finalized, I'll ask for a quote and start the GB.

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 15:37:46 »
Very excited for this!

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« Reply #62 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 15:38:04 »
Yes!

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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 23:50:06 »
Yes . lets get going on this...

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 18:41:09 »
This look so clean. 

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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 01:10:16 »
Looks pretty nice, though I'm a fan of a shorter spacebar. (Finding a custom PCB that supports such layout is going to be a pain :( )

Also a few things to point out.

1. The placement of ~(tilda)
Keys [@`~] and [^ヘ] should be grouped [@`゛] and [^~ヘ].
Interesting that the PC-98s had it the other way around.

2. The [半角 全角] key
 The [半角 全角] key usually has a /(slash) next to 半角 so making it [半角/ 全角] might look nicer :)

3. The [_ロ] key
Many retro keyboards and modern Mac keyboards still have [_ロ] but the modern [_ロ] key usually also has a \(backslash) so making it [\_ロ] should be nicer.
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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 12:44:50 »
I’m interested

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Re: [IC] SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 28 June 2019, 09:21:00 »
Looks pretty nice, though I'm a fan of a shorter spacebar. (Finding a custom PCB that supports such layout is going to be a pain :( )

Also a few things to point out.

1. The placement of ~(tilda)
Keys [@`~] and [^ヘ] should be grouped [@`゛] and [^~ヘ].
Interesting that the PC-98s had it the other way around.

2. The [半角 全角] key
 The [半角 全角] key usually has a /(slash) next to 半角 so making it [半角/ 全角] might look nicer :)

3. The [_ロ] key
Many retro keyboards and modern Mac keyboards still have [_ロ] but the modern [_ロ] key usually also has a \(backslash) so making it [\_ロ] should be nicer.

1. Those legends mainly follow the PC-8801 boards on this keyset.
2. Having a trailing slash looks strange.
3. I will focus on recreating vintage legends, since that is the theme of this set.

Also, the files have been sent in for quotes/samples.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 01:47:33 »
Looks great, i'd be in for a set for sure if it's ePBT.

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« Reply #69 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 10:36:37 »
Definitely in for this. Pretty much everything I'm looking for in a set. Muted colors, modern look with a classic vibe, Japanese sub-legends, pbt, it's my perfect set haha.

Offline nguyenhimself

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 11:56:40 »
Muted colors
It won't be muted. OP is shooting for the classic EnjoyPBT beige look.
This is my only sticking point right now, though that's just 'cause I already have 2 sets of EnjoyPBT and would prefer something a bit different :)

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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 14:22:57 »
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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 14:42:00 »
These are very clean, interested.

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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 19:02:41 »
Looks very clean. Very original idea.

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 22:33:59 »
From what I know, there are two variations of PC-8800 series keyboards regarding the legends.
The earlier variants feature katakana legends, have no ~`{} keys and have , instead of 、with the ネ(ne) key.
The later variants, the ones with split spacebar, feature hiragana legends, do have {} keys, have ¦(earlier variants have |), have ~ where ` is in modern keyboards but still have no ` key.
It is somewhere in the PC-9800 series era that the ` key was introduced to the NEC keyboards, although it was initially placed where the ~ is in modern keyboards.

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« Reply #75 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 22:52:47 »
From what I know, there are two variations of PC-8800 series keyboards regarding the legends.
The earlier variants feature katakana legends, have no ~`{} keys and have , instead of 、with the ネ(ne) key.
The later variants, the ones with split spacebar, feature hiragana legends, do have {} keys, have ¦(earlier variants have |), have ~ where ` is in modern keyboards but still have no ` key.
It is somewhere in the PC-9800 series era that the ` key was introduced to the NEC keyboards, although it was initially placed where the ~ is in modern keyboards.

I didn't even know the legends were from a keyboard. Interesting.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 05 July 2019, 04:32:23 »
console 0,25,0,1

The alphas are a dead ringer for my old NEC PC-8001. The mods were all English though.
Love that the function keys are prefixed with a small "f".

Will get one for sure!

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Vintage-Styled Japanese Keyset
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 17 July 2019, 08:49:08 »
still waiting on quotes and samples?

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« Reply #78 on: Wed, 17 July 2019, 22:55:05 »
still waiting on quotes and samples?

Sample seems to be just about ready.



Still waiting on quotes.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 17 July 2019, 23:06:33 »
will the stepped control (コントロール) key be offered in any of the kits?

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:12:39 »
will the stepped control (コントロール) key be offered in any of the kits?

Likely yes. I'll finalize the kits after verifying that the samples turned out fine, and then post a final kits list afterwards.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 07:33:07 »
This looks great, can't wait.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 09:57:59 »
For reference, here is the planned final list of kits that was used to produce the sample.
Base kit became somewhat sizable in the end.



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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 11:30:33 »
alpha samples look crisper than the creaminess of the render. 

Thank you for the update!

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 16:04:43 »
The samples are great

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 17:47:20 »
Really excited for the group buy. Love the historical inspiration and attention to detail on this key set.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:29:51 »
Those samples look off the hook, easy buy for me. i'm in. any ideas who the vendor will be for the GB?

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« Reply #87 on: Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:59:45 »
Those samples look off the hook, easy buy for me. i'm in. any ideas who the vendor will be for the GB?

It'll likely be through KBDfans, since they're one of the few vendors that have the capacity to handle another keyset gb at the moment (most other vendors are currently overloaded with the massive number of GMK sets).

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 19 July 2019, 03:25:14 »
Interested.
Love the traditional colorway.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 19 July 2019, 03:58:36 »
For reference, here is the planned final list of kits that was used to produce the sample.
Base kit became somewhat sizable in the end.

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hi,
about the Spacebars kit, in the third row, are there two 1.5u keys?
can you replace one with 1.25u key? as I think people who use split spacebar would want 2.25u, 1.25u, 2.75u keys. (I'm one of those people  :)) )

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 19 July 2019, 07:32:38 »
Those samples look off the hook, easy buy for me. i'm in. any ideas who the vendor will be for the GB?

It'll likely be through KBDfans, since they're one of the few vendors that have the capacity to handle another keyset gb at the moment (most other vendors are currently overloaded with the massive number of GMK sets).

I really appreciate you helping to keep these epbt sets coming. Everybody and their mother these days wants to run a GMK kit.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 19 July 2019, 09:16:35 »
Those samples look off the hook, easy buy for me. i'm in. any ideas who the vendor will be for the GB?

It'll likely be through KBDfans, since they're one of the few vendors that have the capacity to handle another keyset gb at the moment (most other vendors are currently overloaded with the massive number of GMK sets).

I really appreciate you helping to keep these epbt sets coming. Everybody and their mother these days wants to run a GMK kit.
Yea, I love that he (I guess?) is doing all sorts of fun custom legends stuffs, which is simply impossible with GMK or SA.
Same with the upcoming PBT Sanctuary set with its custom fonts:
This is dye-sub PBT’s strength. We should lean more into that.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 07:59:43 »
Samples to arrive at the same time as Polaris prototypes, which will arrive before 8/2 to prepare for display at Maker Faire Tokyo.
Once the samples are checked, GB will begin.

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« Reply #93 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 07:36:26 »
I need this so badly, PLEASE tell us once this is ready for sale. TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have a case ready for this set.

Thank you again for doing this !!!


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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 14:55:49 »
Really like the look of this. Any chance of getting colemak support though?

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 21:26:26 »
Really like the look of this. Any chance of getting colemak support though?
Those old Japanese keyboards didn’t use Colemak.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Sample produced and awaiting shipment
« Reply #96 on: Sat, 27 July 2019, 05:36:49 »
Really like the look of this. Any chance of getting colemak support though?

Since the goal is to recreate the vintage legends and samples for the GB have already been produced, there will be no Colemak support.

Samples have been shipped out. Once they arrive and are confirmed fine, GB will begin.

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Re: [IC] ePBT SimpleJA - Samples shipped out
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 27 July 2019, 05:38:10 »
Do you know what pricing will be and how long the gb will run for?

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« Reply #98 on: Sat, 27 July 2019, 06:08:06 »
Do you know what pricing will be and how long the gb will run for?

I'll be finalizing price once everything is set kit-wise.

GB will likely run for 30 days or so, unless there is significant reason not to.

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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 30 July 2019, 19:07:38 »
For reference, here is the planned final list of kits that was used to produce the sample.
Base kit became somewhat sizable in the end.

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I really love all your works and definitely interested in buying this set. I just want to ask about MX HHKB compatibility, please help me to confirm whether the keycap options are there:
1. 1.5u Backspace (R3)
2. 1u Fn (R1)
3. 1.75u Right Shift (R1)
4. 2u Control non-stepped (Caps Lock replacement, R2)
5. 7u Spacebar (R1)
6. 1.5u Command/Code x 2 (WinKey replacement, R1)
7. 1u Alt x 2

I have little knowledge about Katakana and none about Kanji. I saw the layout and seems like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 are already there. Not really sure about 6 and 7. I looked at the FAQ about the WinKey replacement and I saw the "Extended Functionality" button, but looks like it can only be a replacement for ANSI layout (no 1.5u). Is it possible to have them also? And what about point 7?

Thank you!