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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 00:04:49 »
Quote from: lazyfart on Tue, 09 October 2018, 03:00:15
Looking good! Love the retro inspiration from the Cherry boards. Hopefully they are built much more sturdy than those though. lol

Definitely more creative ways to play with it!

R2 Prototype coming soon!
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 01:37:35 »
Any price estimate?

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23 »
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 13:46:08 »
I am in for sure!
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:02:08 »
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb? 
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:29:51 »
Quote from: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:02:08
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?

Hey, you can always use any GH60 compatible plate (and PCB) in the tray mount position. This poll is specifically for the top mount plate. Scott said he wanted to cut the top mount plate as little as possible, but at the same time providing some layout flexibility.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:39:12 »
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:42:42 »
Quote from: oldcat on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:29:51
Quote from: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:02:08
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?

Hey, you can always use any GH60 compatible plate (and PCB) in the tray mount position. This poll is specifically for the top mount plate. Scott said he wanted to cut the top mount plate as little as possible, but at the same time providing some layout flexibility.

Cool, i understand.  i just asked because i would love a thicker plate ( universal ) and the 4mm from the poll just sounded like a treat. :) but as it ANSI only for top mount. no worries i look forward to see the new samples mentioned. Looking forward to the GB!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #108 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:43:50 »
Quote from: macken on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:39:12
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

+1 for ISO topmount  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 08:42:16 »
i am in!
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 08:54:29 »
HHKB?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 14:52:23 »
Quote from: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:43:50
Quote from: macken on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:39:12
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

+1 for ISO topmount  :thumb:

ISO should be relatively easy to accommodate IMO, I will confirm with Scott on the top mount plate :)
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 15:24:56 »
Quote from: oldcat on Mon, 15 October 2018, 14:52:23
Quote from: RETURNISO on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:43:50
Quote from: macken on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:39:12
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 10 October 2018, 17:26:23
Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

+1 for ISO topmount  :thumb:

ISO should be relatively easy to accommodate IMO, I will confirm with Scott on the top mount plate :)

SWEET! Thanks oldcat
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:13:28 »
Current poll results for the material and layout

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 22 October 2018, 17:45:14 »
There is also a possibility for a 2mm Carbon Fiber (with switch clip cuts), for which we gauge interest in the Discord.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 23 October 2018, 19:28:59 »
What are the 10 colors that will be available?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:02:42 »
Quote from: dantambok on Sun, 23 September 2018, 04:32:28
just built mine today  :D

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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 15:46:11 »
Quote from: laserbeamspewpew on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:02:42
Quote from: dantambok on Sun, 23 September 2018, 04:32:28
just built mine today  :D

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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?

I will ask Scott to take some pictures
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 26 October 2018, 19:59:31 »
Quote from: laserbeamspewpew on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:02:42
Quote from: dantambok on Sun, 23 September 2018, 04:32:28
just built mine today  :D

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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?

SA Obilivion on G60

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #119 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 08:12:09 »
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the extend kits, contains mini type-c plug and receptacle. they can be cross-connected, which means PCB with mini receptacle can be extended to a type-c one, and vice versa.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #120 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:39:49 »
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #121 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:40:33 »
Quote from: scottwei on Sat, 27 October 2018, 08:12:09
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the extend kits, contains mini type-c plug and receptacle. they can be cross-connected, which means PCB with mini receptacle can be extended to a type-c one, and vice versa.

Dope!
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #122 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:41:28 »
How is it going with the prototype?, looking forward :cool:
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #123 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 10:47:16 »
Quote from: RETURNISO on Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:41:28
How is it going with the prototype?, looking forward :cool:

it was a little delayed, maybe one or two weeks later, ALF's machines are running day and night.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #124 on: Sun, 28 October 2018, 03:05:58 »
Very interested if hot swappable keyswitches are a feature!
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 28 October 2018, 04:07:16 »
Quote from: Cods on Sun, 28 October 2018, 03:05:58
Very interested if hot swappable keyswitches are a feature!

Well, all MX styled "keyswitches" are hot swappable ^-^ what you are wishing for is a hot swappable enabled PCBA.  :p
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 29 October 2018, 07:52:22 »
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custom FPC cable between the PCB and the extend receptacle
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« Reply #127 on: Mon, 29 October 2018, 12:09:25 »
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 12 November 2018, 20:38:09 »
Still waiting for the prototype of the new case, sorry for the delay. Here are some new photos, Hope you will like it. The firmware is optimized for power saving, the current is around 6.5ma when typing and 2ma standing by. which means over 400 hours battery life-time with a 1000mah one.






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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 13 November 2018, 01:25:49 »
I've been keeping an eye on this board. It looks very promising? You mention that the board is QMK-based but also has a very long battery life. From what I've heard, QMK boards don't really have a long battery life due to the way polling is done (but I'm not sure). How do you manage to do this? 

Also, if this board supports split spacebar as well as 2u shift, it may very well be my next keyboard!
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 13 November 2018, 02:47:44 »
Quote from: TheMissingPiece on Tue, 13 November 2018, 01:25:49
I've been keeping an eye on this board. It looks very promising? You mention that the board is QMK-based but also has a very long battery life. From what I've heard, QMK boards don't really have a long battery life due to the way polling is done (but I'm not sure). How do you manage to do this? 

Also, if this board supports split spacebar as well as 2u shift, it may very well be my next keyboard!

Actually, it's not about the QMK itself, it's about tunning an AVR MCU(most of the custom keyboard use this kind of chips), by shutting down unnecessary module, we can almost cut down half of the power consumes. I wrote a custom main loop and matrix scan function for further power saving. Yang, who made YD60BLE created this precedent, his TMK based firmware consumes just 1.7ma standing by, I'm following his path and trying to keep up.

BTW, Splited spacebar and 2u shift are dropped for sure on G60, Sorry for that. But I would like to release this PCB separated later, it could be a much compatible version. and... Are we just forget this is a compatible case for any GH60-like PCB?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:31:11 »
Love what you are doing with the usb adapter boards here. If the connector fails, you can just replace it separately from the existing pcb. For the right price, I'm really interested in this for my first 60 build.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 21 November 2018, 00:00:47 »
Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #133 on: Thu, 22 November 2018, 13:30:06 »
Quote from: RominRonin on Wed, 21 November 2018, 00:00:47
Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?

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@Scottwei may be able to answer
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #134 on: Thu, 22 November 2018, 14:29:14 »
Since I'm asking questions, what about a G65? ;) thanks...
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #135 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 01:15:47 »
Quote from: RominRonin on Wed, 21 November 2018, 00:00:47
Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?

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It's possible, But lack of operational for most PCB. Most of the PCB doesn't have extra pinout of power supply and I/Os.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #136 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 01:17:40 »
Quote from: RominRonin on Thu, 22 November 2018, 14:29:14
Since I'm asking questions, what about a G65? ;) thanks...

Planned and definitely would make it happen.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #137 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:53:50 »
What do you guys think about this colorway? We might do another proto based on this colorway if you guys are interested!

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #138 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 11:37:53 »
Quote from: oldcat on Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:53:50
What do you guys think about this colorway? We might do another proto based on this colorway if you guys are interested!

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OMG yes please! I've always loved the industrial grey color of the NCR boards.

I would definitely pick that colorway if it becomes an option.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #139 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 23:09:21 »
That would be amazing.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 01:39:45 »
I preliminary decided these are all possible layouts, I dropped some rarely used and 2u LShift layouts, keeping the most common ones.  and the layout compatibility for the 4mm thick plate has been limited, we split it into two main kinds, ANSI and ISO, we do maintain some compatibility on row 5, RShift and the Backspace.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #141 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:18:46 »
Quote from: scottwei on Tue, 27 November 2018, 01:39:45
I preliminary decided these are all possible layouts, I dropped some rarely used and 2u LShift layouts, keeping the most common ones.  and the layout compatibility for the 4mm thick plate has been limited, we split it into two main kinds, ANSI and ISO, we do maintain some compatibility on row 5, RShift and the Backspace.
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I support this

Any chance you'd release plate files?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 22:40:53 »
New prototype

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #143 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 06:21:23 »
Quote from: oldcat on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:33:20
Quote from: LightningXI on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:31:42
Interested. So it is a hybrid mounting system? Top-mount plate AND tray mount poles?

Yes :)

And plus, it's compatible with regular PCB, plus dual mode QMK-based PCB.
But we can also use regular 60% plates? Or are special plates needed?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #144 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 09:42:01 »
I'll take it if the option exists where hhkb blockers are integrated with the case

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #145 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 15:26:57 »
The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #146 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:35:49 »
Is this the first QMK bluetooth custom keeb? I'm not into the particular design of this one but I'm hoping this QMK bluetooth tech is seen in more customs (Noxary polycarb 60%/65% for ex).
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #147 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:41:31 »
Quote from: hineybush on Sun, 02 December 2018, 15:26:57
The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo

Properly MAO And Grey showcased maybe? what do you say OP?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #148 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:02:06 »
Quote from: RETURNISO on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:41:31
Quote from: hineybush on Sun, 02 December 2018, 15:26:57
The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo

Properly MAO And Grey showcased maybe? what do you say OP?

I think Scott wanted to achieve something similar to NCR colorway
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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (updated poll)
« Reply #149 on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:44:39 »
ALF is trying out new color swatches, (Camping) Green and NCR Grey :thumb:
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