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Title: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 26 January 2014, 18:16:09
Let's do this!  Some of us have already received our kits, and many are going to be working on theirs soon.  This keyboard has lots of layout options, so I'm very excited to see what everyone decides on doing with their LightSaver :D

LightSaver is a tray-style aluminum keyboard by Duck with a TK-style PCB and LOTS of layout options!  For Duck's official photo website, see here:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/66


There are 5 lighting modes (mode 5 is for side LEDs).  The modes are called "L1", "L2", "L3", "L4", and "L5" in the original firmware, for key programming purposes.  Before you do any reprogramming, by default the modes can be activated as follows:

So the led control by default is the top right most button plus 1 through 5. The button to the top right side of backspace turns the lights on the bottom of the pcb on and off and so does the led toggle + 5.

Update! New firmware: http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (select "Download : 02D_KeyMapper_Custom_vXXXX . exe", use the OTD Lightsaver custom profile)
- user-defined debounce values
- a dozen different reactive modes and even more with their combinations
- macros, polling rate change, 4 separately programmable layout layers, etc.
- read carefully in Google Chrome using automatic translation option, it's actually very readable in the English translation
- if you are having trouble saving a modified layout to a new file, try overwriting a copy of an existing layout file instead!

- Notes on reprogramming:
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To reprogram, look at this KMAC programming guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0) for reference--it's basically the same, except that to enter bootloader, unplug your LightSaver, press and hold the Flip key while plugging the USB cable back in.  The Flip key is seen here:

(http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/original/2167403E52EE4A541051FB)
(it's the right-side 1x key above Backspace)

Modify existing keymap XML file in an XML editor, save it as XML, load it into TrueKeyMapper software to check that everything looks correct, generate a HEX file (you can do it from the KeyMapper), open Flip, enter bootloader mode, reprogram.

Please Note: "If your arrows or LED functions aren't working in the O2D mapper, [in Windows at least] you can change your locale through control panel>region>administrative>change system locale... set it to korean and now the arrow keys and LED functions will all work propperly. (credit goes to stylingreymon.)" reference (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.msg1508785#msg1508785)

- Notes about LED modes:
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by default, they are on Function Layer #3, which means press the MFN button 3 times in a quick succession to get to the 3rd function layer, and on the third time hold it and press a number associated with the area on the keyboard you want illuminated (alternatively, if you bind FN3 to some key, press FN3 + number)

1 = Function row LEDs
2 = Modifiers + number row
3 = Alphas
4 = Numpad
5 = Side LEDs

To cycle through different lighting modes, you can press those keys repeatedly.  For example holding down FN3 (or having pressed MFN 3 times and holding it), you can keep pressing "3" to cycle through lighting modes for the alphas.  Here are the lighting modes, in a cycle:

  • All ON
  • All OFF
  • Breathing with longer dark periods
  • Breathing with short dark periods (basically the opposite of the other kind of breathing, if you want to have 2 sections breathing exactly out of sync)
  • Reactive ON (off until you push a key, then that section turns on briefly at maximum set brightness)
  • Reactive OFF (on until you push a key, then that section turns off briefly)
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--starts off breathing quickly then slows dramatically until you begin typing
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--reverse of the above (breathing out of sync)
  • OFF until you begin typing, then the section turns on gradually the faster you type.  Fades back to off once you stop typing.


LED brightness level can be varied with LED D[ow]N and LED UP keys, on the same function layer #3 by default


- Command Mode (C/M) key allows you to enter into the programming mode, where you can set stuff like debounce values

- Note about the top right LED blinking every 2 seconds - it's on purpose, read here:
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The blinking LED shows you which layer you are in.  It's called "Layer Status."  There are 4 layers on the keyboard, so if the light blinks once every 2 seconds, it means Layer 1 is activated.  3 quick blinks means that you're in Layer 3, etc.

There are 2 modes in which that LED can be:  either blinking every 2 seconds to let you know which layer you are in at all times or you can change it to only show you the layer number when changing into that layer, and then that LED will remain off until the next layer change.  To switch between these two modes:

LLB: default LED Blink mode (every 2 seconds)
LLN: "Normal" LED mode (off until changing layers)

  • Enter Control Mode (press the C/M button); the Layer Status LED should be lit now without blinking
  • type LLN (or LLB) and press Enter
  • Exit Control Mode by pressing Esc
.

Older LightSaver Firmware: http://duck0113.tistory.com/71
Older LightSaver Keymapper Software: http://duck0113.tistory.com/75

Alternative TMK firmware by xauser, now merged into the official TMK Keyboard package: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard

V1 was sold through Sherryton/Originative.  V2 group buy thread is located here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0

Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length.  If your set is missing screws, please see this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.msg1268209#msg1268209) post by dorkvader--he ordered a large batch for himself that seem to fit well.

Stabilizers: it appears that you need PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers for this keyboard.  You can source them from mouser.com and newark.com and such.  Simple Questions Simple Answers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_NN) thread has some notes about them in the first post.

The Side LEDs are 3.5mm x 2.8mm in size (3528 or 1411 package size).  If you are changing the side LEDs, please note the orientation of the original LEDs before removing them: it's not symmetric!
All LED resistors appear to be 470 Ohm variety. Please note, this was true for Lightsaver V1.  Later versions might be different--please double-check.

PLEASE NOTE when installing LEDs, polarity is not indicated on the PCB, but it's the standard + on the right, - on the left, when looking at the PCB from the top (not from the bottom).  BUT, if you're doing a 1.5x modifier layout on the bottom row, note that the LEDs for the right-side Alt/GUI/Ctrl should be reversed in orientation to - / +.  If in doubt, check the bottom row LED orientation without soldering first with the board plugged in.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2878/12126309353_b90cf4ec80_h.jpg)

Layout options for Lightsaver V2 - more options for the bottom row:
[attachimg=1]
(options a) and d) along with short 1.75x right Shift allow for the arrow cluster, G80-1800-style :
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Photo by Jokrik (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMh6mb)
Lightsaver v2 + Caps (https://flic.kr/p/oMh6mb) by hansen_oe (https://www.flickr.com/people/125682669@N08/), on Flickr
)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 26 January 2014, 18:19:40
To start, my photo album so far is here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/115329034@N04/sets/72157640117516876/).  I've yet to get replacement side LEDs, but they are probably going to be warm white or neutral white.  Going to use MX Clears in mine--likely stock, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 26 January 2014, 18:29:24
To start, my photo album so far is here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/115329034@N04/sets/72157640117516876/).  I've yet to get replacement side LEDs, but they are probably going to be warm white or neutral white.  Going to use MX Clears in mine--likely stock, but we'll see.
Those are some really lovely photos. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 26 January 2014, 18:38:13
To start, my photo album so far is here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/115329034@N04/sets/72157640117516876/).  I've yet to get replacement side LEDs, but they are probably going to be warm white or neutral white.  Going to use MX Clears in mine--likely stock, but we'll see.

Dibs if you decide to sell this thing :D :P
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 January 2014, 18:39:29
To start, my photo album so far is here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/115329034@N04/sets/72157640117516876/).  I've yet to get replacement side LEDs, but they are probably going to be warm white or neutral white.  Going to use MX Clears in mine--likely stock, but we'll see.

So much component porn! I love it!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:17:10
really good stuff......you got skills :cool:

appreciate you adding-posting to the site!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:20:11
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/12126058316_83c6d7f819_c.jpg)

Edit: Oops, didn't realize that I couldn't link/post your pictures here.

I really like this picture :D. Can't wait to see your board all built up!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sai on Sun, 26 January 2014, 21:46:18
nice photos you have there. now i can't wait to see this beauty fully assembled .  :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: joneslee85 on Fri, 07 February 2014, 12:54:56
I am assembling mine right now, man, this layout Fxx row is very retarded, I kinda hate 2 extra key after F12, not sure what I should do with it? /meh

And it seems to me this issue is addressed in version 2rd (..I hope this is not a typo, seriously, the designer is very poor at English - lightsaver vs lightsaber now 2rd vs 2nd...), photos taken from his website:

(http://cfile2.uf.tistory.com/original/25736446525776681D4536)

Besides, mine does not come with plate, i am wondering if any of you does come with plate
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 February 2014, 12:57:54
I am assembling mine right now, man, this layout Fxx row is very retarded, I kinda hate 2 extra key after F12, not sure what I should do with it? /meh

Besides, mine does not come with plate, i am wondering if any of you does come with plate

Why did you get this keyboard then ? :)  I got it because I liked all the extra caps and layout options.  You can always get some blockers and cover up some slots.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: joneslee85 on Fri, 07 February 2014, 13:00:44
I am assembling mine right now, man, this layout Fxx row is very retarded, I kinda hate 2 extra key after F12, not sure what I should do with it? /meh

Besides, mine does not come with plate, i am wondering if any of you does come with plate

Why did you get this keyboard then ? :)  I got it because I liked all the extra caps and layout options.  You can always get some blockers and cover up some slots.

I like it because it is the first board that I could create a 60% + Numpad all in one, I am thinking of getting those blockers to block all F row completely

Btw, do you know how to place order on his website?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 February 2014, 13:14:55
Sherry was going to get some blockers for us.  Not sure what the latest on that is, as he seems to be backlogged with his communication.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: LONGZILLA on Fri, 07 February 2014, 13:15:59
Man, these are sexy, can't wait to see more assembled photos.

(http://i.imgur.com/MtC0TYT.gif)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: redskull on Sat, 08 February 2014, 23:25:29
waiting for something awesome here..

(http://i.imgur.com/IGnYeN1.gif)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 08 February 2014, 23:31:24
I'm getting some stabilizers on Monday, I think.  Can finally start building then!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 13 February 2014, 22:52:56
Not yet finished, but since this thread is sorely lacking photographs, I'll add my work in progress.  I'm at the step where I need to solder everything to the PCB :)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5507/12513692565_333f2f4e19_b.jpg)

Lubricating with Victorinox Oil and Krytox Mixture:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3789/12513817683_bd113050c2_b.jpg)

I must say, this plate is not made for easy top cover removals, and getting switches in through the plate and the PCB was a PITA, as the PCB is pretty tight.  I used all PCB-mounted housings.  I actually had to remove all those swtiches one-by-one after they were nearly assembled--to put the top cover on :(  I highly recommend lubricating and assembling switches first and mounting them afterwards.

SIP socket things:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7429/12513696745_f9dc1d04c2_b.jpg)

in a switch:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2865/12514159544_f1f9aef36b_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/12513687025_f80e639ef7_b.jpg)

Leaving the black plastic in makes the top cover not close properly, so I cut all the pins out.  Switch stickers also cause more problems than benefit in this case, making the top covers harder to close, so I skipped them.  It looks much better without them anyway.

Ready to solder now:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3763/12513808193_80d215b26b_b.jpg)

Trying on keycaps:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/12515335004_b0191d0691_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/12514870045_059eef7ec1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: redskull on Fri, 14 February 2014, 03:48:56
Not yet finished, but since this thread is sorely lacking photographs, I'll add my work in progress.  I'm at the step where I need to solder everything to the PCB :)

Show Image
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5507/12513692565_333f2f4e19_b.jpg)


Lubricating with Victorinox Oil and Krytox Mixture:
Show Image
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3789/12513817683_bd113050c2_b.jpg)


I must say, this plate is not made for easy top cover removals, and getting switches in through the plate and the PCB was a PITA, as the PCB is pretty tight.  I used all PCB-mounted housings.  I actually had to remove all those swtiches one-by-one after they were nearly assembled--to put the top cover on :(  I highly recommend lubricating and assembling switches first and mounting them afterwards.

SIP socket things:

Show Image
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7429/12513696745_f9dc1d04c2_b.jpg)


in a switch:

Show Image
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2865/12514159544_f1f9aef36b_b.jpg)


Show Image
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/12513687025_f80e639ef7_b.jpg)


Leaving the black plastic in makes the top cover not close properly, so I cut all the pins out.  Switch stickers also cause more problems than benefit in this case, making the top covers harder to close, so I skipped them.  It looks much better without them anyway.

Ready to solder now:

Show Image
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3763/12513808193_80d215b26b_b.jpg)


Trying on keycaps:

Show Image
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/12515335004_b0191d0691_b.jpg)


Show Image
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/12514870045_059eef7ec1_b.jpg)

mind = blown.

great job and pictures Ph. those SIP socket things are for LED swapping right?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:08:38
Yup, they are.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 14 February 2014, 15:05:15
Yup, they are.

Where does one acquire them?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 15:12:02
You can get them here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Pcs-Single-Row-40Pin-2-54mm-Round-Female-Pin-Header-/140910386490?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cee9dd3a

Each set is good for 60 switches (3 x 40 pins and 2 pins per switch).
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 February 2014, 15:15:26
Yup, they are.

Where does one acquire them?

I bought these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-40-Pin-DIP-SIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-USA-SELLER-Free-Shipping-/231131895648 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-40-Pin-DIP-SIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-USA-SELLER-Free-Shipping-/231131895648)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:32:29
So here's my final selection:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/12595638985_7b2ace2c02_b.jpg)

LEDs are slightly crooked in some switches due to SIP sockets being a major PITA.  Speaking of SIP sockets, if you use those with this kit, they have fairly short legs and barely reach through the PCB.  I had to use a fine tip chisel soldering iron and actually stick a corner of the tip into LED holes to touch the SIP socket ends for soldering.  Contacts are all good, however, so it works fine.  Inserting LEDs before soldering the sockets helps align the sockets better and also pushes them through as far as possible.

Some shots before cleaning off residual flux:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/12596084714_72233d7370_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/12595643875_b4b26def4e_b.jpg)

Another surprise was how wide those metal rings are around the switch pins.  Took a bit longer to heat up as a result.  I've got everything assembled and working now, and the first post here is updated with some tips.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 08 March 2014, 22:45:42
Photoelectric's lightsaver is lonely, so here's a picture of mine.
(http://i.imgur.com/hTf9AVM.jpg)

Better pictures to come when it's not all dark inside and I have my stabilizer wire.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 08 March 2014, 22:46:53
Hooray!!  MOAR PICTURES!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 08 March 2014, 22:48:25
So here's my final selection:

Show Image
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/12595638985_7b2ace2c02_b.jpg)


LEDs are slightly crooked in some switches due to SIP sockets being a major PITA.  Speaking of SIP sockets, if you use those with this kit, they have fairly short legs and barely reach through the PCB.  I had to use a fine tip chisel soldering iron and actually stick a corner of the tip into LED holes to touch the SIP socket ends for soldering.  Contacts are all good, however, so it works fine.  Inserting LEDs before soldering the sockets helps align the sockets better and also pushes them through as far as possible.

Some shots before cleaning off residual flux:

Show Image
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/12596084714_72233d7370_b.jpg)


Show Image
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/12595643875_b4b26def4e_b.jpg)


Another surprise was how wide those metal rings are around the switch pins.  Took a bit longer to heat up as a result.  I've got everything assembled and working now, and the first post here is updated with some tips.

How do the clears feel with the plate?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 08 March 2014, 22:59:32
So here's my final selection:

Show Image
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/12595638985_7b2ace2c02_b.jpg)


LEDs are slightly crooked in some switches due to SIP sockets being a major PITA.  Speaking of SIP sockets, if you use those with this kit, they have fairly short legs and barely reach through the PCB.  I had to use a fine tip chisel soldering iron and actually stick a corner of the tip into LED holes to touch the SIP socket ends for soldering.  Contacts are all good, however, so it works fine.  Inserting LEDs before soldering the sockets helps align the sockets better and also pushes them through as far as possible.

Some shots before cleaning off residual flux:

Show Image
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/12596084714_72233d7370_b.jpg)


Show Image
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/12595643875_b4b26def4e_b.jpg)


Another surprise was how wide those metal rings are around the switch pins.  Took a bit longer to heat up as a result.  I've got everything assembled and working now, and the first post here is updated with some tips.

How do the clears feel with the plate?

Less tactile, more rigid.  I didn't used to know the difference until my WEY, which has no plate.  I think Clears are better without plate, but this keyboard is SO rigid with the plate, everything else I tried hurt my fingers when bottoming out, except Blacks and stock Clears, which are more cushiony.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 09 March 2014, 00:11:51
Maximum overjelly.
Lightsavers look so gorgeous.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: ninjadoc on Sun, 09 March 2014, 10:57:08
Why did I ignore this when it came out?  I did the same with the butterfly  keypad, :( :(
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 09 March 2014, 23:57:16
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7334/13052308013_ab4b6993ce_b.jpg)
Here's another picture of mine, now soldered.

Just waiting on the type of case screws it has so I can run to the hardware store and grab some (or I'll just go there after work anyway)
I programmed it today as well as getting it all keycapp'd up with Dvorak

vital stats:
case: black
switches: mx clear, PCB mount for added difficulty of installation
Springs: 62g
Top cover (abostudio)
Spacebar: stock clear spring

The abostudio top covers are much more brittle than stock. You have to be careful when you remove them.

I will be resoldering my SIP headers once the LEDs arrive. (boring white, though I might grab some purple once I can get some confirmation that they don't emit much UV)

soldering the SIP holes was pretty easy once I switched to my ulta-fine point and 0.015" solder. I could fit both in the hole without contact.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 10 March 2014, 00:06:24
Very cool!  Transparent switch tops are quite nice with that silver plate.  I had a lot of trouble with stock black covers--I think it must be even more so with transparent ones, unless they are structurally different around the LED area (the black covers have small parts protruding downward, interfering with the sockets slightly).
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Mon, 10 March 2014, 09:36:09
great looking lightsabers!
unfortunately, mine are still in the box... super stock.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Bov4204m36Q/Uu5W0opk6YI/AAAAAAAAHL8/uOA4ns3WpVE/s1600/DSC09254.jpg)

still accumulating other parts and funds for a proper soldering kit

can i ask, what's the specs for the LEDs that you guys used?
thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: xauser on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:30:08
Time for another lightsaber ...

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:33:10
That is a beautiful board.  Very clean, I like. :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:39:17
Time for another lightsaber ...

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

Cool!  I didn't know you got one too.  Looking forward to your Phantom photos as well :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:41:19
Time for another lightsaber ...

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

Looks really nice with the symbol only modifiers!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: ditzo on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:04:13
pretty bord of key
-– but, does it soul have?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:16:19
The soul is strong with this one.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:29:13
New firmware/keymapper is available with lots of COOL OPTIONS! http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

I've added it to the OP.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: skcheng on Sat, 15 March 2014, 09:27:30
These are just awesome looking boards!!   I'll have to get one at some point!! 
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 15 March 2014, 10:35:42
Time for another lightsaber ...

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

This might just be one of my favourite looking boards ever, nice work.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 15 March 2014, 12:47:00
big applause to all who worked on their lightsavers and posted photos! good work everyone!

I can enjoy looking without having to do any work (and destroy some perfectly good components)!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 March 2014, 02:16:36
The new firmware is so much fun!!  The amount of stuff one can do with it and options is incredible.  Took me like 2 hours to redo all the layer stuff, reprogram, and play with the results to figure it out, and still some things to test.  For now, some samples of the cool new LED modes!!

Firstly, as in the original firmware, there are 5 LED sections that can be turned on and off independently: the function row, modifiers, alphas, numpad, and side LEDs.

Now, each of those sections also has multiple LED options: on, off, breathing (speed can be static or varied based on typing speed), reactive on, and reactive off.  You can also vary brightness levels.

Please see "LED Notes" in the first post for more details.  Here are two sample videos of possible LED modes:

1. demonstrating different groups of switches that can be independently lit
(side LEDs, numpad, alphas, modifiers + number row, entire function row)


2. demonstrating possible LED modes on the "alphas" section (didn't do a great job with the varying speed breathing mode--need to use different keys quickly to speed up the breathing)


(the owl at the top right blinks when changing modes to show the currently selected layer.  For example 3 quick blinks for Layer 3, and I'm pressing FN3 + number)

Also very much appreciate adjustable debounce settings with this new firmware!

GREAT STUFF!  Mega impressed  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:18:28
Updated the OP with some details about the new firmware and also made two new videos that are more coherent than yesterday's (linked above).
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 17 March 2014, 11:55:15
TrueCustom is so talented at programming :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: xauser on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:26
I just want to let you know that I've ported hasu's tmk firmware to the lightsaber keyboard. The matrix is working, no led support at all. (I don't care to much about led features) I have to clean and test everything the next days and then ask hasu to merge the code.

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: xauser on Tue, 18 March 2014, 18:25:45
tmk firmware port can be found here https://github.com/xauser/tmk_keyboard (https://github.com/xauser/tmk_keyboard)

have fun!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 18 March 2014, 18:50:24
That's interesting, xauser, I'll add it to the OP.  Could you explain first why you decided to go with this firmware instead of the proprietary firmware?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: xauser on Tue, 18 March 2014, 19:01:19
I have other keyboards (phantom and soon gh60) that are supported by tmk firmware. tmk firmware provides all mapping/layer/media features I could ever dream of. It's easy for me to spread my layout ideas over several keyboards this way.

Ah, and knowing whats running inside my keyboard is great!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 18 March 2014, 19:02:30
Soon we'll have other keyboards from the LightSaver-style family :O should we just put them all here too? :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 18 March 2014, 19:21:02
Judging by how few people have added their LightSaver photos here, we could just extend it to all Duck keyboards :)  Especially if firmware remains centralized in terms of compiling information in the OP.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: xauser on Wed, 19 March 2014, 18:06:18
Added basic led/backlight support. Have fun.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 March 2014, 18:07:22
Added basic led/backlight support. Have fun.

You still haven't explained why you chose to go with alternative software :)

P.S.: Ah missed the post where you did!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 19 March 2014, 20:08:13
Added basic led/backlight support. Have fun.

You still haven't explained why you chose to go with alternative software :)

I generally support TMK firmware anyway :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 March 2014, 20:21:10
Added basic led/backlight support. Have fun.

Cool  :thumb:  Added link to the OP!

edit: hopefully the info in the OP is clear enough...  If there's more stuff you want added, let me know!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:22:20
I finally got my screws in the mail and can start programming and using my lightsaver.

For anyone who wants new or different screws: I had to get 300, but they were super cheap. They work well. I am told that the provided screws aren't the best.

If you want a replacement set of screws from me, I will provide them FOC to anyone who PM's me about it. Each lightsaver requires 10, and I have 280 remaining.

Once my LEDs arrive, I'll post pictures. I'm still deciding what keycaps to put on the 6 upper right buttons. I may end up with blank cherry POM from a DAS II.

Right now, I've run into the same issue with actually saving or exporting firmwares using the 02 software. I'll keep trying. Gotta have mah hardware Dvorak layout!
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_dd&u=http%3A%2F%2Fduck0113.tistory.com%2F84


Edit:
the 300 screws I got are hard to install as they are nonmagnetic. Excellent quality though.

My second set (of 10) just arrived and they are very magnetic for easier installation. They appear to be slightly less nice and are hex instead of torx.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:25:20
Yes, that issue is annoying, but you can go around it by creating a copy of a .hex file and then overwriting that copy when saving.  Instead of saving a new file, when you overwrite an old one, somehow the path to it gets recognized properly.  That's the workaround I found so far.

Also I'd recommend dorkvader's screws, as my stock set seems to just turn indefinitely and threading seems a bit off as a result.  <-- please ignore this, apparently my screwdriver did not work as I thought it worked...  a new one proved this wrong.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Michael on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:26:24
So are you like, the only one that actually has a Lightsaver? I haven't seen anyone else post one :P


I was supposed to get one, but you know... sherry and all... yea....
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:26:47
So are you like, the only one that actually has a Lightsaver? I haven't seen anyone else post one :P


LOL that's what I was saying.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:29:26
I know of myself, xauser, dorkvader, bianco, and one other person who PM'd me with questions about assembly.  Dorkvader ordered a few kits, I think.  There were under 15 total ordered from Sherry, I think, as he said there were some cancellations.  I'm guessing some people are just not posting.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:58:32
So are you like, the only one that actually has a Lightsaver? I haven't seen anyone else post one :P


I was supposed to get one, but you know... sherry and all... yea....

(http://www.hondagrom.net/forums/attachments/2286d1377783306-almost-had-heart-attack-i_know_that_feel_bro_by_rober_raik-d4cxn5a.png)

My money wasn't good enough for sherry. He literally would not take my money  :confused:

I would still love to buy/trade for one.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:03:25
  Dorkvader ordered a few kits, I think. 
To clarify, There were supposed to be three. Mine and two for other Gh'ers. Of those two, one cancelled his order, and I never heard back from the other guy.

I totally posted pictures of mine! They're even on the first page! I'm typing on it now using the stock firmware converted to Dvorak layout. I'm just waiting on diodes for more pictures.

Yes, that issue is annoying, but you can go around it by creating a copy of a .hex file and then overwriting that copy when saving.  Instead of saving a new file, when you overwrite an old one, somehow the path to it gets recognized properly.  That's the workaround I found so far.
Thanks for the tip: I will try this.

Edit: it worked. I just moved a file into the working directory and it autodetected it. I then wrote over it and the new file is a different size. I haven't tried it yet though.

So you didn't pay for all three and have two extra right?
No; I paid for and received one unit.

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:40:04
So you didn't pay for all three and have two extra right?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombly on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:13:33
Someone sell me this board, or release another one ASAP!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:22:53
Someone sell me this board, or release another one ASAP!

I think I saw a Round 2 mentioned with a different case can't remember what thread it was in.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombly on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:24:14
Someone sell me this board, or release another one ASAP!

I think I saw a Round 2 mentioned with a different case can't remember what thread it was in.

I know someone stated that a V2 was possible in the Orion thread I believe, or the talk about the Duck Viper/Eagle just want it now. :(
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:24:34
Someone sell me this board, or release another one ASAP!

I think I saw a Round 2 mentioned with a different case can't remember what thread it was in.

Elton has mentioned in a few threads that he's doing LightSaver V2 before Viper. (Usually in that context, because so many people are excited about the Viper.)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: xauser on Sat, 05 April 2014, 12:30:33
Lightsaber support was merged by hasu and is now an official part of the tmk_firmware.

I'm currently testing a new backlight patch that gives you full keymap control of all available led channels.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 05 April 2014, 14:26:25
Lightsaber support was merged by hasu and is now an official part of the tmk_firmware.

I'm currently testing a new backlight patch that gives you full keymap control of all available led channels.

This makes me want to get a lightsaver ^_^
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Altuz on Thu, 10 April 2014, 13:18:15
How do you use the new keymapper?
Generating the hex file give me an error :/
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 10 April 2014, 13:43:16
How do you use the new keymapper?
Generating the hex file give me an error :/

Yes, that issue is annoying, but you can go around it by creating a copy of a .hex file and then overwriting that copy when saving.  Instead of saving a new file, when you overwrite an old one, somehow the path to it gets recognized properly.  That's the workaround I found so far.

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:09:26
How do you use the new keymapper?
Generating the hex file give me an error :/

In addition to Photoelectric's workaround you can also give the file a very simple name like "keymap.hex" or "lightsaver.hex".
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Altuz on Thu, 10 April 2014, 20:45:21
Thanks!
I managed to generate the hex file, but for some reason the arrow keys don't work :/
It shows as '?'s on the program

http://imgur.com/Sm215bK

Edit:
Ahhhh, I'll just use the old keymapping software.
I'll post pictures once I get my Raindrop keycaps, it is ugly right now D:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:35:16
The arrows show up as ??? but they get programmed properly anyway.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:36:51
How do you use the new keymapper?
Generating the hex file give me an error :/

In addition to Photoelectric's workaround you can also give the file a very simple name like "keymap.hex" or "lightsaver.hex".

For me, it was a path error, regardless of name.  It was trying to save in a directory it could not find, as far as I could see from the error message.  So overwriting another file was going around the path error.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:42:19
How do you use the new keymapper?
Generating the hex file give me an error :/

In addition to Photoelectric's workaround you can also give the file a very simple name like "keymap.hex" or "lightsaver.hex".

For me, it was a path error, regardless of name.  It was trying to save in a directory it could not find, as far as I could see from the error message.  So overwriting another file was going around the path error.

Gotcha. For me and one other user in the Orion GB thread removing dashes, underscores, and spaces from the filename allowed it to save.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Altuz on Thu, 10 April 2014, 23:41:53
The arrows show up as ??? but they get programmed properly anyway.

There must be something wrong with mine, it doesn't program to arrow keys for me :/
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 11 April 2014, 09:27:29
Do you know the name of the two tone red font keycaps in the More photographs? Where can I buy it? I know the blue font one is from imsto(http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18003469710). The base sets of those two seem to be same. But the modifiers are different.
BTW, is imsto the only place to buy this keycap set?
Thank you for you help!  :)

Let's do this!  Some of us have already received our kits, and many are going to be working on theirs soon.  This keyboard has lots of layout options, so I'm very excited to see what everyone decides on doing with their LightSaver :D

LightSaver is a tray-style aluminum keyboard by Duck with a TK-style PCB and LOTS of layout options!  For Duck's official photo website, see here:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/66

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There are 5 lighting modes (mode 5 is for side LEDs).  The modes are called "L1", "L2", "L3", "L4", and "L5" in the original firmware, for key programming purposes.  Before you do any reprogramming, by default the modes can be activated as follows:

So the led control by default is the top right most button plus 1 through 5. The button to the top right side of backspace turns the lights on the bottom of the pcb on and off and so does the led toggle + 5.

Update! New firmware: http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (select "Download  :  02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.3.240.exe", use the OTD Lightsaver custom profile)
- user-defined debounce values
- a dozen different reactive modes and even more with their combinations
- macros, polling rate change, 4 separately programmable layout layers, etc.
- read carefully in Google Chrome using automatic translation option, it's actually very readable in the English translation

- Notes on reprogramming:
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To reprogram, look at this KMAC programming guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0) for reference--it's basically the same, except that to enter bootloader, unplug your LightSaver, press and hold the Flip key while plugging the USB cable back in.  The Flip key is seen here:

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(it's the right-side 1x key above Backspace)

Modify existing keymap XML file in an XML editor, save it as XML, load it into TrueKeyMapper software to check that everything looks correct, generate a HEX file (you can do it from the KeyMapper), open Flip, enter bootloader mode, reprogram.

- Notes about LED modes:
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by default, they are on Function Layer #3, which means press the MFN button 3 times in a quick succession to get to the 3rd function layer, and on the third time hold it and press a number associated with the area on the keyboard you want illuminated (alternatively, if you bind FN3 to some key, press FN3 + number)

1 = Function row LEDs
2 = Modifiers + number row
3 = Alphas
4 = Numpad
5 = Side LEDs

To cycle through different lighting modes, you can press those keys repeatedly.  For example holding down FN3 (or having pressed MFN 3 times and holding it), you can keep pressing "3" to cycle through lighting modes for the alphas.  Here are the lighting modes, in a cycle:

  • All ON
  • All OFF
  • Breathing with longer dark periods
  • Breathing with short dark periods (basically the opposite of the other kind of breathing, if you want to have 2 sections breathing exactly out of sync)
  • Reactive ON (off until you push a key, then that section turns on briefly at maximum set brightness)
  • Reactive OFF (on until you push a key, then that section turns off briefly)
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--starts off breathing quickly then slows dramatically until you begin typing
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--reverse of the above (breathing out of sync)
  • OFF until you begin typing, then the section turns on gradually the faster you type.  Fades back to off once you stop typing.


LED brightness level can be varied with LED D[ow]N and LED UP keys, on the same function layer #3 by default


- Command Mode (C/M) key allows you to enter into the programming mode, where you can set stuff like debounce values

- Note about the top right LED blinking every 2 seconds - it's on purpose, read here:
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The blinking LED shows you which layer you are in.  It's called "Layer Status."  There are 4 layers on the keyboard, so if the light blinks once every 2 seconds, it means Layer 1 is activated.  3 quick blinks means that you're in Layer 3, etc.

There are 2 modes in which that LED can be:  either blinking every 2 seconds to let you know which layer you are in at all times or you can change it to only show you the layer number when changing into that layer, and then that LED will remain off until the next layer change.  To switch between these two modes:

LLB: default LED Blink mode (every 2 seconds)
LLN: "Normal" LED mode (off until changing layers)

  • Enter Control Mode (press the C/M button); the Layer Status LED should be lit now without blinking
  • type LLN (or LLB) and press Enter
  • Exit Control Mode by pressing Esc
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Older LightSaver Firmware: http://duck0113.tistory.com/71
Older LightSaver Keymapper Software: http://duck0113.tistory.com/75

Alternative TMK firmware by xauser: https://github.com/xauser/tmk_keyboard


Sherryton's group buy discussion thread here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50036.0

Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length.  If your set is missing screws, please see this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.msg1268209#msg1268209) post by dorkvader--he ordered a large batch for himself that seems to fit better than stock screws I got with my kit.

Stabilizers: it appears that you need PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers for this keyboard.  You can source them from mouser.com and newark.com and such.  Simple Questions Simple Answers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_NN) thread has some notes about them in the first post.

The Side LEDs are 3.5mm x 2.8mm in size (3528 or 1411 package size).
All LED resistors appear to be 470 Ohm variety.

PLEASE NOTE when installing LEDs, polarity is not indicated on the PCB, but it's the standard + on the right, - on the left, when looking at the PCB from the top (not from the bottom).  BUT, if you're doing a 1.5x modifier layout on the bottom row, note that the LEDs for the right-side Alt/GUI/Ctrl should be reversed in orientation to - / +.

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Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 12 April 2014, 01:17:59
There must be something wrong with mine, it doesn't program to arrow keys for me :/
if u are using o2d, the arrow keys will not work by directly mapped it, this is one the bug that it had.

Here's 2 simple solution that i tried:
1. Load TrueKeyMapper, set the dedicated arrow keys at the keys u wanted, then generate the hex file and open the hex file using o2d to further keymapping.

2. Locate a "num lock" in a layer that u want with arow keys, map that arrow keys with number keypad 4 8 6 and 2, toggle num lock to enable your arrow keys.

And as Photoelectric stated, the arrow keys in o2d are shown as ? mark instead of left up right down.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:59:16
(http://i.imgur.com/PZp8RMC.jpg)

Lubed linear switches (Dark Grays on the top row, sprit 62g gold Reds elsewhere)
Blue LEDs with SIP Sockets
aboStudio transparent switch covers

Procrastinated the build for like four months, haha. Flashing the firmware is simple, and I was pleasantly surprised to find how awesome the LED modes are.

I'm not really liking how BSP caps play with LEDs, round or 2x3x4 (bottoming out isn't as crisp as if there were no LEDs).. though that's not at all the fault of this board. Other keysets work fine. In any case, I'll continue playing around with this to get things to feel just right.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 22 May 2014, 11:36:10
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Lubed linear switches (Dark Grays on the top row, sprit 62g gold Reds elsewhere)
Blue LEDs with SIP Sockets
aboStudio transparent switch covers

Procrastinated the build for like four months, haha. Flashing the firmware is simple, and I was pleasantly surprised to find how awesome the LED modes are.

I'm not really liking how BSP caps play with LEDs, round or 2x3x4 (bottoming out isn't as crisp as if there were no LEDs).. though that's not at all the fault of this board. Other keysets work fine. In any case, I'll continue playing around with this to get things to feel just right.

WOW Damn! That's a great looking really clean board!! Congrats! :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:00:06
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Looks great--thank you for sharing!!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: digi on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:44:44
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Lubed linear switches (Dark Grays on the top row, sprit 62g gold Reds elsewhere)
Blue LEDs with SIP Sockets
aboStudio transparent switch covers

Procrastinated the build for like four months, haha. Flashing the firmware is simple, and I was pleasantly surprised to find how awesome the LED modes are.

I'm not really liking how BSP caps play with LEDs, round or 2x3x4 (bottoming out isn't as crisp as if there were no LEDs).. though that's not at all the fault of this board. Other keysets work fine. In any case, I'll continue playing around with this to get things to feel just right.

Great job CG, blue leds fit well with the silver case.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MrChunky on Fri, 23 May 2014, 01:21:56
Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me out here. I got the board (V1) from sherry recently and looking into assembling it this weekend, as all the parts have finally been sourced. I have two queries...

How do you attach the plate to the case with the screws, Like it says in the info in the OP? It seems to me that the screws are not long enough to reach from plate to the case and the holes are too big, am I being thick somehow?

Also I would like to get the layout that I have seen on ducks website and recently has been posted in V2 groupbuy. I am talking about the original Dolch layout with the arrow keys sandwiched between the numpad and the mods. Is this possible with the V1? What kind of config will I be looking at for the bottom row mods then?

It would really help me out if someone could explain these to me... Its my first custom board and I wanna get everything right :D And of course I'll make sure to post once its complete!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:23:27
Thanks guys!

The screws aren't to screw down the plate, they're to screw down the PCB. So whether you use the plate or not, everything will be attached.. And I believe the 1800-style layout with the arrow keys are new to the V2 PCB/plate.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MrChunky on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:30:37
The screws aren't to screw down the plate, they're to screw down the PCB. So whether you use the plate or not, everything will be attached.. And I believe the 1800-style layout with the arrow keys are new to the V2 PCB/plate.

I see, thats what confused me.

Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length.  If your set is missing screws, please see this post by dorkvader--he ordered a large batch for himself that seems to fit better than stock screws I got with my kit.

Well thats a pity about the 1800 layout, I thought I saw some old pics from V1 on duck's website with it, I guess it was something else.

Thanks cgbuen! :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: feizor on Fri, 23 May 2014, 08:31:43
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Lubed linear switches (Dark Grays on the top row, sprit 62g gold Reds elsewhere)
Blue LEDs with SIP Sockets
aboStudio transparent switch covers

Procrastinated the build for like four months, haha. Flashing the firmware is simple, and I was pleasantly surprised to find how awesome the LED modes are.

I'm not really liking how BSP caps play with LEDs, round or 2x3x4 (bottoming out isn't as crisp as if there were no LEDs).. though that's not at all the fault of this board. Other keysets work fine. In any case, I'll continue playing around with this to get things to feel just right.

How did you make the LED's light up so evenly? Is it the clear switch covers?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: two4teezee on Sat, 24 May 2014, 16:40:45
I'm not really liking how BSP caps play with LEDs, round or 2x3x4 (bottoming out isn't as crisp as if there were no LEDs).. though that's not at all the fault of this board. Other keysets work fine. In any case, I'll continue playing around with this to get things to feel just right.

That's interesting. On my Orion I tried out flat-top 3mm LEDs and my keys did not bottom out, although with round 3mm LEDs they would/do. I think part of the problem is that the switch is mounted with the LED facing the user, whereas there is more  vertical space under the keys away from the user. Honestly the only thing I'd change about the board design.

How do you like the 62g springs in your reds? I have red in my Orion and I love it. I think I might do the SIP socket mod for the next KB I put together (probably a Duck Eagle).

How did you make the LED's light up so evenly? Is it the clear switch covers?

Also interested in hearing how you feel these switch covers may make a difference. With the flat top LEDs I definitely got very even backlighting, again at the cost of not bottoming out (at least with the current keyset I have on there, a WASD one; Vortex keys seemed fine).

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Tue, 27 May 2014, 08:26:20
after months getting it, finally found time to assemble my light saver v1.
mx clears with 67g springs and transparent switch tops, no LED (yet), hyperfuse dsa keycaps
thanks for the help Elton and Photoelectric (and also for the helpful 'how to setup' and faq).

looking forward to getting the v2 pcb and plates, i hope they fit and mounting screws match the v1 case
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Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 27 May 2014, 13:33:03
after months getting it, finally found time to assemble my light saver v1.
mx clears with 67g springs and transparent switch tops, no LED (yet), hyperfuse dsa keycaps
thanks for the help Elton and Photoelectric (and also for the helpful 'how to setup' and faq).

looking forward to getting the v2 pcb and plates, i hope they fit and mounting screws match the v1 case
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Very nice. :O I can't wait to receive mine guessing that won't be till July with shipping and customs.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 27 May 2014, 14:35:17
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Thank you for sharing!  Looks really nice!  Silver Lightsaver is best Lightsaver (j/k  ;D)  The screws should be M2 and I think "normal" or "coarse" threading, if you want to try ordering some extras.  I believe the screws that were included originally have the wrong threading type. (They are correct!)
P.S.: that's an interesting numpad layout!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MrChunky on Tue, 27 May 2014, 16:51:32
Got my lightsaver assembled recently. Still have to add LEDs when I decide on the layout and colours.

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Improvised lubing and stickering station.
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Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MrChunky on Tue, 27 May 2014, 17:03:40
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The black on white is original cherry from Pacifist, not in good condition unfortunately unlike promised. Will have to wait for granite or IMSTO set to arrive, whichever comes first.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 27 May 2014, 19:26:25
Cool--bunch of freshly assembled LightSavers recently  :thumb:  I bet Graphite would look excellent on this keyboard--two-tone sets in general.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Tue, 27 May 2014, 20:38:18
More
after months getting it, finally found time to assemble my light saver v1.
mx clears with 67g springs and transparent switch tops, no LED (yet), hyperfuse dsa keycaps
thanks for the help Elton and Photoelectric (and also for the helpful 'how to setup' and faq).

looking forward to getting the v2 pcb and plates, i hope they fit and mounting screws match the v1 case
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Very nice. :O I can't wait to receive mine guessing that won't be till July with shipping and customs.

thanks! good luck!
i hope to get the v2 soon too, really want the new arrow cluster arrangement.




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Thank you for sharing!  Looks really nice!  Silver Lightsaver is best Lightsaver (j/k  ;D)  The screws should be M2 and I think "normal" or "coarse" threading, if you want to try ordering some extras.  I believe the screws that were included originally have the wrong threading type.
P.S.: that's an interesting numpad layout!

thanks! i may be biased but i agree with you, silver is the best light saver (and i'm not kidding!  :)))
thanks for the info on the screws. although i was thinking about the mounting holes in the v2 pcb and plate being the same as the v1 case.
as i didn't manage to get the full v2 kit, i'm hoping that the v2 pcb and plates that i ordered can fit in the v1 case and just swap them out.
yes, i wanted to squeeze in the arrow cluster and numpad in there without them being in different layers... easier to get around excel  ;D

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 03 June 2014, 00:40:26
Touched up my LightSaver today: swapped side LEDs to aqua and in-switch LEDs to turquoise + blue (alternating rows) and red for indicator LEDs + Function.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3875/14331832091_12760dcc59_h.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5507/14148503409_a1fb4d3d13_h.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3884/14148552660_6003732892_h.jpg)

Plus some re-programming, and it's back to being my main keyboard  :thumb:

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: cphead on Tue, 03 June 2014, 00:49:45
Touched up my LightSaver today: swapped side LEDs to aqua and in-switch LEDs to turquoise + blue (alternating rows) and red for indicator LEDs + Function.

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Plus some re-programming, and it's back to being my main keyboard  :thumb:

Blue and red color scheme = the best  :thumb:

Where does one acquire such a shade of blue?  ;)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Tue, 03 June 2014, 01:12:01
Touched up my LightSaver today: swapped side LEDs to aqua and in-switch LEDs to turquoise + blue (alternating rows) and red for indicator LEDs + Function.

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Plus some re-programming, and it's back to being my main keyboard  :thumb:



looks awesome! great looking board Photoelectric
do you mind sharing the specs/link of the side LEDs that you used?
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 03 June 2014, 02:12:59
Touched up my LightSaver today: swapped side LEDs to aqua and in-switch LEDs to turquoise + blue (alternating rows) and red for indicator LEDs + Function.

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Plus some re-programming, and it's back to being my main keyboard  :thumb:
Where do you get turquoise LEDs?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: redskull on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:00:08
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Lubed linear switches (Dark Grays on the top row, sprit 62g gold Reds elsewhere)
Blue LEDs with SIP Sockets
aboStudio transparent switch covers

Procrastinated the build for like four months, haha. Flashing the firmware is simple, and I was pleasantly surprised to find how awesome the LED modes are.

I'm not really liking how BSP caps play with LEDs, round or 2x3x4 (bottoming out isn't as crisp as if there were no LEDs).. though that's not at all the fault of this board. Other keysets work fine. In any case, I'll continue playing around with this to get things to feel just right.
nice...

where did you get that bsp set bro?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:43:40
Those keycaps are GMK's ABS doubleshots from a WEY, with some doubleshots from an 1800, a few BSP Royal-Alpha typewriter PBT and ABS caps, and some CMYK.

The aqua and turquoise LEDs are from taobao, blue and red--from eBay.  The LED spec is pretty much nonexistent there (generally very few parameters listed, and sometimes you get a brightness value, which I've learned does not mean much...), so I got some SMD ones to experiment with in 3528 size: magenta and aqua-blue.  They are not as bright as the original red ones, but I like the watery shade.  Almost used magenta at first.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Tue, 03 June 2014, 09:14:33
Those keycaps are GMK's ABS doubleshots from a WEY, with some doubleshots from an 1800, a few BSP Royal-Alpha typewriter PBT and ABS caps, and some CMYK.

The aqua and turquoise LEDs are from taobao, blue and red--from eBay.  The LED spec is pretty much nonexistent there (generally very few parameters listed, and sometimes you get a brightness value, which I've learned does not mean much...), so I got some SMD ones to experiment with in 3528 size: magenta and aqua-blue.  They are not as bright as the original red ones, but I like the watery shade.  Almost used magenta at first.

thank you sir!
i'll try to find a few in the local electronics shop.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 04 June 2014, 02:12:02
The aqua and turquoise LEDs are from taobao
Would you mind linking them?
I cannot seem to effectively navigate that site.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 04 June 2014, 13:32:01
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.T2fwUp&id=38145907157&scm=1007.10115.744.0&pvid=e9c9516a-2db7-4106-8638-a6a27575686f
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.uWdIvf&id=36369414473&scm=1007.10115.744.0&pvid=842c0fba-a553-40e4-bd54-de3a62ba37fb
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 04 June 2014, 14:48:42
Is anyone finding the rigidity of the steel plate + dense metal tray case to be uncomfortable?  Here's how I've added some dampening to mine, and it's helping slightly:

Thin silicone o-rings!  Place over the stand-offs:

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Insert the PCB/plate diagonally into the case, mini USB socket into the hole first, then lower the PCB onto the standoffs.  Add bolts.   Here you can see an o-ring peeking out

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Still sounds a bit metallic along the edges, but I'll be looking into other dampening methods in addition to the o-rings--perhaps something to go between the PCB and the plate around the perimeter.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 June 2014, 15:28:57
I've seen some rubber bands on korean keyboards between the PCB and plate: http://www.otd.kr/data/file/pj_356/2105777654_958acd14_DCS_7620.jpg
Not sure if they're used for that purpose though, but I think it could help.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 04 June 2014, 16:27:00
I've seen some rubber bands on korean keyboards between the PCB and plate: http://www.otd.kr/data/file/pj_356/2105777654_958acd14_DCS_7620.jpg
Not sure if they're used for that purpose though, but I think it could help.

Interesting--thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 04 June 2014, 16:43:45
Touched up my LightSaver today: swapped side LEDs to aqua and in-switch LEDs to turquoise + blue (alternating rows) and red for indicator LEDs + Function.

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Plus some re-programming, and it's back to being my main keyboard  :thumb:
These are stunning - going right into the keyboard porn folder!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: acantha on Fri, 06 June 2014, 22:35:24
has anyone has success using the TMK then O2D method with macros? everything else is working but the macros i set aren't taking.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 07 June 2014, 00:45:01
Touched up my LightSaver today: swapped side LEDs to aqua and in-switch LEDs to turquoise + blue (alternating rows) and red for indicator LEDs + Function.

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Plus some re-programming, and it's back to being my main keyboard  :thumb:



That is a beauty, m'lady. I love those numpad key caps.  I wish I had some.  Plus with those windowed caps lock, num lock, scroll lock is perfect.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 07 June 2014, 01:22:23
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.T2fwUp&id=38145907157&scm=1007.10115.744.0&pvid=e9c9516a-2db7-4106-8638-a6a27575686f
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.uWdIvf&id=36369414473&scm=1007.10115.744.0&pvid=842c0fba-a553-40e4-bd54-de3a62ba37fb
Thanks for the link.
Those aqua LEDs are the bee's knees.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 14:22:28
after months getting it, finally found time to assemble my light saver v1.
mx clears with 67g springs and transparent switch tops, no LED (yet), hyperfuse dsa keycaps
thanks for the help Elton and Photoelectric (and also for the helpful 'how to setup' and faq).

looking forward to getting the v2 pcb and plates, i hope they fit and mounting screws match the v1 case
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Hello all!

I have a question for all you Lightsaver V1 folk:  How would you go about programming the arrow keys in the above picture to actually register arrow key presses?  I just built my V1 with almost the exact layout, but when I go into the 02D_Keymapper, all it has is ? for the arrow keys.  Do I need to you the old software to do this?

Thanks!

-Tad
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 14:32:08
Nevermind. I was able to get it working with the old TrueCustom software :)  Thanks!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 10 June 2014, 14:40:03
The latest firmware has arrows.  The intermediate one had a bug where they showed up as ? in the UI.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:00:30
Strange.  I used the link in your first post for the 02D firmware.  Is there a more up to date version than that?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:06:55
Strange.  I used the link in your first post for the 02D firmware.  Is there a more up to date version than that?

You're right--just downloaded it as a test, and despite the screenshots on the webpage, the arrows are still showing up as ? on the latest version :(  They do work as intended, however, despite their appearance.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 18:31:28
Cool cool.  I'll give it another try, but the first time I tried it, when I assigned the buttons to the correct ?'s, then create the hex file, the hex file would show them as not assigned.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 10 June 2014, 18:57:27
Are you moving the arrow keys to their non-default location?  I think that's the reason no one's really complained (or one of the reasons): most of us have left the arrow keys alone in their original location.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Tue, 10 June 2014, 20:34:31
Nevermind. I was able to get it working with the old TrueCustom software :)  Thanks!

that's exactly how i did it.  ;D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:15:10
Thanks for the confirmation bianco!

Also, thanks for the help Photoelectric!  I did not move the arrows.  I kept them there and placed other buttons around them.  Tried again, but same issue.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:30:49
What is the error that you're seeing exactly?  In my case, the arrow keys show up as ?, but one the hex file is created and I transfer it to the keyboard, the arrow keys all function properly.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:50:42
My arrow keys also show up as ?, but when I load the hex file they don't do anything at all.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:54:45
Do you reassign the arrows or do you leave those 4 keys alone when you open a new template?  I know they work as intended if you don't do anything to them at all using one of the default presets.  Perhaps reassigning them doesn't work properly.  Basically I load the LightSaver Custom layout and modify everything but the arrow keys, leaving those alone, and everything works properly after programming.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:58:49
I did it both ways:  both leaving them alone and then assigning them.  Neither way worked.  However, when I use the older software and the TrueCustom Keymapper it works like a charm.  Side LEDs won't work, but the arrows do :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 10 June 2014, 23:13:31
Strange :(  I'm not really sure why that's happening.  I've reprogrammed my lightsaver around 15 times now, tweaking various things over time, and the arrows always showed up as ? and always worked okay regardless.  We should probably contact whoever is writing the firmware about it.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Wed, 11 June 2014, 12:59:07
I GOT IT TO WORK!!!  Not really sure how, but it works now.  I just loaded up a new custom firmware template, and now it works.  I was also able to program the FN layer to make the up and down arrows Page Up and Page Down, and now I can have LED control also!  Thanks for the help!

-Tad
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 11 June 2014, 13:03:23
I GOT IT TO WORK!!!  Not really sure how, but it works now.  I just loaded up a new custom firmware template, and now it works.  I was also able to program the FN layer to make the up and down arrows Page Up and Page Down, and now I can have LED control also!  Thanks for the help!

-Tad

Awesome!  I think just don't touch those arrow keys on the premade template at all while changing the rest, and it should be good.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Wed, 11 June 2014, 13:39:12
Good plan :)  Now to wait for my V2!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: acantha on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:34:47
Finally got around to taking some pictures of my lightsaver...

(http://i.imgur.com/3XP40SO.jpg)

oh hello hellboy... I want to put a few LEDs on the switches so that this fellow and the windowed key that turns the lights on and off can get some backlight.

(http://i.imgur.com/ilQTvLr.jpg)

as i am currently lacking a dsa numpad (just dumb on my part forgetting to get one) i'm using my round3 numpad and it actually works okay. helps me know without looking when i've strayed over too far.

(http://i.imgur.com/WRyk9mD.jpg)

ooohhh purty lights. contemplating trying the LED replacement though.

(http://i.imgur.com/qSv7RUH.jpg)

I have to say that dsa kits are brilliant on this

(http://i.imgur.com/WiDXqPV.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 10 July 2014, 22:39:25
^ That Fire key! ;D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:07:12
new keycaps for my light saver
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UBwJXSfvIr8/U8EHWRGquGI/AAAAAAAAIZE/t4W78RDm7Uw/s1600/DSC01216.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: acantha on Tue, 15 July 2014, 17:29:16
nice! great minds think alike!  :thumb: (especially when one of them, ie me, steal the layout from the other)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MrChunky on Mon, 21 July 2014, 02:31:53
Got around to taking some better pictures with a new set. Also discovered that I love DSA , at least on this keyboard.

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Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 21 July 2014, 03:24:06
Looking good with the Granite!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: MrChunky on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:21:22
Does anyone know if it is possible to remap the LED that lights up when you turn on NumLock? I looked around, but I can't find anything...
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 24 July 2014, 13:59:01
Why don't I have one of these?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 24 July 2014, 14:19:45
Why don't I have one of these?
you can still get a duck viper/eagle if you like 60% :p
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Fri, 25 July 2014, 03:03:00
v2!
new version, new 'name'
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-upRLLLceoD8/U9H9akGlCAI/AAAAAAAAIa8/BH4tN0TD188/s1600/DSC01272.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vUfuBy3DYkE/U9H9Y4esUTI/AAAAAAAAIag/MsMrLTi4iwY/s1600/DSC01252.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u1cfDG5RgJw/U9H9bGFutuI/AAAAAAAAIbA/tblL8Ay2CyY/s1600/DSC01305.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 31 July 2014, 17:13:41
Hey I bought acantha's v1 and I was wondering what the specs are on the leds, both the side and the switch ones. Or can I just use any?

Edit: read the op, don't know how I missed that
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 01 August 2014, 17:33:32
Trying to program mine, links to new firmware don't work.

.edit: i got 1.4.288 and am not sure how to detect it with flip.
atmega32u4 doesnt seem to bring anything up, it's all grey.

edit2: missed the step about updating drivers, my bad.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 01 August 2014, 17:53:58
Trying to program mine, links to new firmware don't work.

.edit: i got 1.4.288 and am not sure how to detect it with flip.
atmega32u4 doesnt seem to bring anything up, it's all grey.

edit2: wewnt to device manager; found atmel32u4; right click update driver software, choose file from computer, computer/programfilesx86/atmel/flip
Select atmega32u4 first, then disconnect your board, reconnect the board while holding the flip key, then click the USB icon and select usb. Click open then select hex file from file
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 01 August 2014, 19:00:11
Not very satisfied with the LEDs. But its too painful to swap them although I have sip sockets installed.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/a8u7e7us.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/eruvu3ab.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/ynypepyv.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/eqyjere5.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 01 August 2014, 22:00:37
Can someone please tell me how many brightness levels are there?
I have tried the odd firmwares and the newest one, but they all give me only 2 brightness levels (max brightness and off).
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 02 August 2014, 20:04:13
Can someone please tell me how many brightness levels are there?
I have tried the odd firmwares and the newest one, but they all give me only 2 brightness levels (max brightness and off).

I'm curious about this as well.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 12 August 2014, 16:54:04
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Just got this! I don't really have caps for it so right now it looks like a mess, also the numpad layout means nothing I just threw caps on so I could play with it.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Fri, 15 August 2014, 10:43:12
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:05:35
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Fri, 15 August 2014, 15:38:30
thank
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301

thank you!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 15 August 2014, 16:17:34
thank
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301

thank you!

No problem, if by any chance you have leds installed, could you please tell me how many brightness levels your lightsaver have? You can use led dn and up key to control the brightness. I have asked in this and gb thread, no one answered my question...
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Sat, 16 August 2014, 01:11:39
thank
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301

thank you!

No problem, if by any chance you have leds installed, could you please tell me how many brightness levels your lightsaver have? You can use led dn and up key to control the brightness. I have asked in this and gb thread, no one answered my question...

i have tried to use this but wasn't able to change the level of the lights.
the led up/down only turns on/off the lights.

although, i might be reverting the older version of the keymapper as the arrow keys doesn't seem to save in the hex file using the latest keymapper.
even though i use the arrow cluster with the question marks, when i change to a different layer and go back to it, it becomes empty.

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 16 August 2014, 01:18:56
thank
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301

thank you!

No problem, if by any chance you have leds installed, could you please tell me how many brightness levels your lightsaver have? You can use led dn and up key to control the brightness. I have asked in this and gb thread, no one answered my question...

i have tried to use this but wasn't able to change the level of the lights.
the led up/down only turns on/off the lights.

although, i might be reverting the older version of the keymapper as the arrow keys doesn't seem to save in the hex file using the latest keymapper.
even though i use the arrow cluster with the question marks, when i change to a different layer and go back to it, it becomes empty.


it might be because the default fn key isn't like a regular fn key. it's actually a toggle to scroll through the layers.
there are different layers and different fn layers on a lightsaver. this caught me really off guard at first.

[I explained this pretty poorly; but know that there IS most likely a reason for your confusion, and it's because it's not entirely intuitive.]

In other news. I have a beautiful Lightsaver V1 that I will picture and post for you guys tomorrow, but I REALLY want to trade it for a v2 in 1800 layout.
 Also if someone could clarify that the PCB on v2 is indeed different.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Sat, 16 August 2014, 04:22:46
More
thank
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301

thank you!

No problem, if by any chance you have leds installed, could you please tell me how many brightness levels your lightsaver have? You can use led dn and up key to control the brightness. I have asked in this and gb thread, no one answered my question...

i have tried to use this but wasn't able to change the level of the lights.
the led up/down only turns on/off the lights.

although, i might be reverting the older version of the keymapper as the arrow keys doesn't seem to save in the hex file using the latest keymapper.
even though i use the arrow cluster with the question marks, when i change to a different layer and go back to it, it becomes empty.

it might be because the default fn key isn't like a regular fn key. it's actually a toggle to scroll through the layers.
there are different layers and different fn layers on a lightsaver. this caught me really off guard at first.

[I explained this pretty poorly; but know that there IS most likely a reason for your confusion, and it's because it's not entirely intuitive.]

In other news. I have a beautiful Lightsaver V1 that I will picture and post for you guys tomorrow, but I REALLY want to trade it for a v2 in 1800 layout.
 Also if someone could clarify that the PCB on v2 is indeed different.

it's not in the fn key or layer.
it's when i'm trying to map the keys in the layers.
the arrow cluster shows as question marks in the interface instead of arrows.

for the v1, the exact 1800 layout is not possible.
a modification can be... (based on the last pic below):
FN key = left, CTRL key = down, LEFT key = right, MENU key = up


managed to finish the v2 with a mish-mash of keycaps  :p
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SJwi3FQG03c/U-8gSfaxXoI/AAAAAAAAIeU/wBi4PK_5Hpo/s1600/DSC01600.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nMlTaHQKih8/U-8gSGGfuxI/AAAAAAAAIeY/4TTT1XdCPdU/s1600/DSC01602.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z4mnCqOxJe8/U-8gSNk893I/AAAAAAAAIeQ/jREqsYyR470/s1600/DSC01618.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4PlYrdFKLd8/U-8gT3LocKI/AAAAAAAAIek/r7iV6ZdgCMo/s1600/DSC01639.jpg)

with the soon to be retired v1
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J3nSSEsOoAU/U-8gUUzv6mI/AAAAAAAAIeo/2wX-sBY0th0/s1600/DSC01646.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Battou62 on Sat, 16 August 2014, 10:09:55
More
thank
does anyone have the latest o2d keymapper?
i can't download the latest one in duck's site (02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.271.exe).
thanks in advance

You can download the latest firmware from here
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301

thank you!

No problem, if by any chance you have leds installed, could you please tell me how many brightness levels your lightsaver have? You can use led dn and up key to control the brightness. I have asked in this and gb thread, no one answered my question...

i have tried to use this but wasn't able to change the level of the lights.
the led up/down only turns on/off the lights.

although, i might be reverting the older version of the keymapper as the arrow keys doesn't seem to save in the hex file using the latest keymapper.
even though i use the arrow cluster with the question marks, when i change to a different layer and go back to it, it becomes empty.

it might be because the default fn key isn't like a regular fn key. it's actually a toggle to scroll through the layers.
there are different layers and different fn layers on a lightsaver. this caught me really off guard at first.

[I explained this pretty poorly; but know that there IS most likely a reason for your confusion, and it's because it's not entirely intuitive.]

In other news. I have a beautiful Lightsaver V1 that I will picture and post for you guys tomorrow, but I REALLY want to trade it for a v2 in 1800 layout.
 Also if someone could clarify that the PCB on v2 is indeed different.

it's not in the fn key or layer.
it's when i'm trying to map the keys in the layers.
the arrow cluster shows as question marks in the interface instead of arrows.

for the v1, the exact 1800 layout is not possible.
a modification can be... (based on the last pic below):
FN key = left, CTRL key = down, LEFT key = right, MENU key = up


managed to finish the v2 with a mish-mash of keycaps  :p
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SJwi3FQG03c/U-8gSfaxXoI/AAAAAAAAIeU/wBi4PK_5Hpo/s1600/DSC01600.jpg)


Show Image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nMlTaHQKih8/U-8gSGGfuxI/AAAAAAAAIeY/4TTT1XdCPdU/s1600/DSC01602.jpg)


Show Image
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z4mnCqOxJe8/U-8gSNk893I/AAAAAAAAIeQ/jREqsYyR470/s1600/DSC01618.jpg)


Show Image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4PlYrdFKLd8/U-8gT3LocKI/AAAAAAAAIek/r7iV6ZdgCMo/s1600/DSC01639.jpg)


with the soon to be retired v1
Show Image
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J3nSSEsOoAU/U-8gUUzv6mI/AAAAAAAAIeo/2wX-sBY0th0/s1600/DSC01646.jpg)



That layout is PERFECT :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 16 August 2014, 10:58:58
Yeah I know what you're talking about in regards to the arrows.
I thought you were having the same problem as me where they only work on one layer.
Next time your arrows stop working, try unplugging and plugging in your board.

#INEEDAVersionTwo
#SomeoneTradeMeWhoDoesntWant1800Layout
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 17 August 2014, 16:27:18
So I'm having some trouble mapping the layout I want on this thing. I'm having a problem similar to others where the arrow keys wont map or they disappear from the layout in OD2 after I save to HEX and reopen. I've tried all the recent firmware versions here: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=100301) . When I flash the new firmware some of my custom mappings are working but the arrow keys never work. I'm also having trouble changing layers: when I plug it in it's in layer 1 but when I hit the layer change button once it switches to layer 2. If I hit the layer change again (once, twice, as many times as you want) nothing happens. Layer toggle also does nothing. in order to get back to layer one I have to unplug the damn thing. In the original firmware I'm able to change to FN layer and toggle backlit zones but I have the same issue with arrows not mapping. basically everything I custom map works except for the arrow keys. Really frustrating - is anyone else having similar issues with their V2?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: witbliz on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:36:16
Hi guys, I'm not sure what screws does the ducky blocker use ? anybody able to point me in the right direction to purchase them ?

Thanks for the help

P.S. I live in Malaysia
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 06 September 2014, 23:45:31
Where can I get the acrylic side inserts or do I have to use the .dxf and get them cut?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: digi on Tue, 09 September 2014, 12:19:19
cross-posting my question from the ls2 groupbuy thread:

My LS2 was assembled so I'm not sure which layers are what..or even how to switch layers for that matter. Do you happen to know what the default LED Ctrl / LED Modes & LED Up/Dn keys are? thanks.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 16 September 2014, 19:14:59
Pardon the potato!
Waitin on dolch and cyrillic gmk to get here -_-

(http://i.imgur.com/AmWbF1P.jpg?2)

(http://i.imgur.com/3fm422X.jpg?3)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 16 September 2014, 19:27:54
this thread is out of control awesome

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 16 September 2014, 20:55:21
Pardon the potato!
Waitin on dolch and cyrillic gmk to get here -_-

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AmWbF1P.jpg?2)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3fm422X.jpg?3)



sweet! same layout and switch tops as mine.

Your \| key is upside down though.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 16 September 2014, 21:19:46
Pardon the potato!
Waitin on dolch and cyrillic gmk to get here -_-

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AmWbF1P.jpg?2)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3fm422X.jpg?3)



sweet! same layout and switch tops as mine.

Your \| key is upside down though.

cannot unsee
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Wed, 17 September 2014, 01:34:02
Pardon the potato!
Waitin on dolch and cyrillic gmk to get here -_-

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AmWbF1P.jpg?2)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3fm422X.jpg?3)



that's nice!
i'm kinda missing the huge 0 in the numpad.
i might desolder my v1 and change to that layout

for now, my v2 in penumbra
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cEMXy-gjam8/VBagM32ShpI/AAAAAAAAJuQ/ZnvqY5yPNhI/s1600/DSC00934.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 17 September 2014, 12:15:06
Pardon the potato!
Waitin on dolch and cyrillic gmk to get here -_-

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AmWbF1P.jpg?2)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3fm422X.jpg?3)



sweet! same layout and switch tops as mine.

Your \| key is upside down though.
\

Some choose to flip their space bars, i choose to flip my |\ key :p
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 12:23:13
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/17/d4245ff8a712a228a6175f194da547b8.jpg)

Looking for Cherry windowed caps lock and num lock to complete my board!  Also need a Cherry "N" key. PM if anyone have an extras....
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 18 September 2014, 00:41:03
Pardon the potato!
Waitin on dolch and cyrillic gmk to get here -_-

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AmWbF1P.jpg?2)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3fm422X.jpg?3)



sweet! same layout and switch tops as mine.

Your \| key is upside down though.
\

Some choose to flip their space bars, i choose to flip my |\ key :p

Mine is that way permanently on Ducky Shine :p

Ducky did that so the LED, which is towards the top of the keycap, primarily illuminates the \.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 18 September 2014, 20:27:10
Here is a shot of mine as it is currently. Running the latest 02d firmware
keycaps are from a das 2 (blank cherry POM) and an imsto dvorak set. I am thinking of putting non blank keycaps over where common commands like copy paste, etc are so I don't get paranoid every time i press ctrl.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/15280216011_6841df0129_o.jpg)

My normal KB adornments don't fit on this case :(
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 18 September 2014, 20:38:23
Here is a shot of mine as it is currently. Running the latest 02d firmware
keycaps are from a das 2 (blank cherry POM) and an imsto dvorak set. I am thinking of putting non blank keycaps over where common commands like copy paste, etc are so I don't get paranoid every time i press ctrl.
Show Image
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/15280216011_6841df0129_o.jpg)


My normal KB adornments don't fit on this case :(
Awesome layout, Dorkvader.  That's what I would have went with too!  Love the stealth look!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sniping on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:54:16
Soooo many awesome Lightsavers in this thread, and now I finally get to make my contribution:

[attach=1]
[attach=2]

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sent on Thu, 18 September 2014, 22:01:13
Is that a red Lightsaver?  More pics!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:02:15
(http://i.imgur.com/vEtkMQr.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/LZuzgXX.jpg?1)

Finally got my cyrillic on!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Thu, 09 October 2014, 10:19:15
So, here is a question to all of you lightsaver people.  On my Lightsave v1, I assigned the NUM Lock to the top right key.  I want to put an LED in that has a similar function as the Caps lock LED (Num Lock on = LED on, Num Lock off = LED off).  Right now it just blinks.  Any idea how to make this work?

Thanks!

-Tad
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 09 October 2014, 10:58:38
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can't since that's the Layer indicator.
It either blinks to tell you what layer you are on or you can turn it off.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Thu, 09 October 2014, 12:52:47
Dang, I was hoping that wouldn't be the case.  How do I turn it off then (other than removing the LED completely)?

Thanks!

-Tad
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 09 October 2014, 15:24:18
Dang, I was hoping that wouldn't be the case.  How do I turn it off then (other than removing the LED completely)?

Thanks!

-Tad

See the info in the OP :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Fri, 10 October 2014, 06:38:27
Thank you!  LED is now off.  I really need to build my v2.

-Tad
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 20 October 2014, 11:58:25
Hey photo, can you throw a note in programming, that if your arrows or LED functions aren't working in the O2D mapper, [in windows at least] you can change your locale through control panel>region>administrative>change system locale... set it to korean and now the arrow keys and LED functions will all work propperly.

credit goes to stylingreymon.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Mon, 20 October 2014, 12:05:28
realized that i didn't post here...
my light saber v2 when i put coffee keys
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TZVPt56qRuU/VDfpEK9O92I/AAAAAAAAKOs/aatLgN1yFII/s1600/DSC01299.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: digi on Mon, 20 October 2014, 12:09:54
Here is a shot of mine as it is currently. Running the latest 02d firmware
keycaps are from a das 2 (blank cherry POM) and an imsto dvorak set. I am thinking of putting non blank keycaps over where common commands like copy paste, etc are so I don't get paranoid every time i press ctrl.
Show Image
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/15280216011_6841df0129_o.jpg)


My normal KB adornments don't fit on this case :(

lol @ the i386 chip, love it!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 21 October 2014, 09:44:51
Hey photo, can you throw a note in programming, that if your arrows or LED functions aren't working in the O2D mapper, [in windows at least] you can change your locale through control panel>region>administrative>change system locale... set it to korean and now the arrow keys and LED functions will all work propperly.

credit goes to stylingreymon.

Updated.  Please let me know if anything else that'd be useful is missing.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:17:00
Is it possible to have just one layer set?
For some reason, my LS will randomly change between layers.
Kinda sucks to have keys not work in the middle of raiding ><
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:25:14
Is it possible to have just one layer set?
For some reason, my LS will randomly change between layers.
Kinda sucks to have keys not work in the middle of raiding ><

Quite easily yeah, just make it so there are no layer or fn keys on your first layer.

I saw someone ask about MFN and not sure if they got an answer.
AFAIK MFN stands for multi-function.
If you hit this key and then hold it on the final press, you can access all the layers.
eg If you press the key and then quickly press it a second time, holding it on the second press, you will be on layer two.
If you quickly press it three times, holding it down on the third actuation, you will be on layer three.
It's exactly like a FN key only hitting it more than once lets you choose which layer to access.

@photo: np, I love these lightsavers. they are like my babies. dorkvader is currently swapping the guts from my v1 to a v2. :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:35:44
Is it possible to have just one layer set?
For some reason, my LS will randomly change between layers.
Kinda sucks to have keys not work in the middle of raiding ><

Quite easily yeah, just make it so there are no layer or fn keys on your first layer.

I saw someone ask about MFN and not sure if they got an answer.
AFAIK MFN stands for multi-function.
If you hit this key and then hold it on the final press, you can access all the layers.
eg If you press the key and then quickly press it a second time, holding it on the second press, you will be on layer two.
If you quickly press it three times, holding it down on the third actuation, you will be on layer three.
It's exactly like a FN key only hitting it more than once lets you choose which layer to access.

@photo: np, I love these lightsavers. they are like my babies. dorkvader is currently swapping the guts from my v1 to a v2. :)

So I would still need a 2nd layer to access lighting functions?
I couldn't say, press the MFN and F1 to change mods lighting?
What I'm aiming for is KMAC like led accessibility.
Press a key combo and it toggles lighting modes, but pressing keys by themselves won't send you to another layer.

-Blacke
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:39:06
You could have the lighting functions on fn1 and have a function key somewhere.

I believe FN1 moves your keyboard to functionalayer1,
so if you wanted to only have it do the LED stuff while you hold it down, MFN would be correct.

edit: moving this to pms.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 31 October 2014, 06:47:46
Got my Dolch Set today and tried different combinations on my Lightsaver -  I think I prefer the version without the CMY mods :)

(http://i.imgur.com/V3HTjru.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rSxjeDv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Fri, 31 October 2014, 09:41:20
Got my Dolch Set today and tried different combinations on my Lightsaver -  I think I prefer the version without the CMY mods :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/V3HTjru.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rSxjeDv.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)


that is awesome!
great looking board sir!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: frosty on Sat, 01 November 2014, 03:04:07
Got my Dolch Set today and tried different combinations on my Lightsaver -  I think I prefer the version without the CMY mods :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/V3HTjru.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rSxjeDv.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)


the orange/reddish backlight looks really awesome in the third picture!!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:04:56
Got my Dolch Set today and tried different combinations on my Lightsaver -  I think I prefer the version without the CMY mods :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/V3HTjru.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rSxjeDv.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)


Lechner, that looks really good! Are those red LEDs?

Have you tried CMYK without the Enter? If you can please snap a photo :P I think it'll look great.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:25:39
Got my Dolch Set today and tried different combinations on my Lightsaver -  I think I prefer the version without the CMY mods :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/V3HTjru.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rSxjeDv.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)

puttin the dolch to good use :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:53:33
Got my Dolch Set today and tried different combinations on my Lightsaver -  I think I prefer the version without the CMY mods :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/V3HTjru.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rSxjeDv.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)


Lechner, that looks really good! Are those red LEDs?

Have you tried CMYK without the Enter? If you can please snap a photo :P I think it'll look great.


Yes, those are red LEDs.

I think the reason why CMY doesn't really work is the fact that the legends are black. I will try it again once I get the CMY Mod set from Dubsgalore's GB with the white legends  :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 09 November 2014, 13:18:50
So my parents were transporting my lightsaver and somehow managed to scratch the case and dent one of the corners  :(, the scratches aren't deep but aesthetically they bother me. Anyone know if sandblasting would fix this or will re anodizing correct it?

(http://i.imgur.com/i3HGGrL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/518azDl.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 09 November 2014, 13:25:34
So my parents were transporting my lightsaver and somehow managed to scratch the case and dent one of the corners  :(, the scratches aren't deep but aesthetically they bother me. Anyone know if sandblasting would fix this or will re anodizing correct it?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/i3HGGrL.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/518azDl.jpg)


Re-anodizing will ruin the finish. Maybe you can look into how car enthusiasts remove scratches?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 09 November 2014, 14:09:30
So my parents were transporting my lightsaver and somehow managed to scratch the case and dent one of the corners  :(, the scratches aren't deep but aesthetically they bother me. Anyone know if sandblasting would fix this or will re anodizing correct it?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/i3HGGrL.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/518azDl.jpg)


Re-anodizing will ruin the finish. Maybe you can look into how car enthusiasts remove scratches?

The standard way to remove scratches is wet sanding, steel wool, or polishing. All of which would change the finish.   :blank:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 09 November 2014, 14:13:35
Re-anodizing will ruin the finish. Maybe you can look into how car enthusiasts remove scratches?
Err what?

Reanodising will not change the surface finish, it'll just, well, reanodise it. It won't even remove the scratches.

Sandblasting + reanodising would work, but that would change the finish.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 09 November 2014, 15:06:25

Re-anodizing will ruin the finish. Maybe you can look into how car enthusiasts remove scratches?
Err what?

Reanodising will not change the surface finish, it'll just, well, reanodise it. It won't even remove the scratches.

Sandblasting + reanodising would work, but that would change the finish.

Anodizing is a process that converts aluminum to its oxide. The oxide is thicker than the aluminum that is consumed, which means the dimension of the anodized part changes. The amount of change will depend on the anodizing process conditions (temperature, current density, etc.) and alloy. Under nominal Type II anodizing conditions, the rule of thumb is 2/3 in 1/3 out; for example, a coating that is 0.6 mil thick will have consumed 0.4 mil of aluminum. Under hard coat (Type III) anodizing conditions the ratio changes to ½ in ½ out.

Yes the surface will change.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 11 November 2014, 07:13:53
Anodizing is a process that converts aluminum to its oxide. The oxide is thicker than the aluminum that is consumed, which means the dimension of the anodized part changes. The amount of change will depend on the anodizing process conditions (temperature, current density, etc.) and alloy. Under nominal Type II anodizing conditions, the rule of thumb is 2/3 in 1/3 out; for example, a coating that is 0.6 mil thick will have consumed 0.4 mil of aluminum. Under hard coat (Type III) anodizing conditions the ratio changes to ½ in ½ out.

Yes the surface will change.
I've seen reanodised cases and the actual surface finish remains. Same texture, just different colour anodising.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 11 November 2014, 08:55:33
Anodizing is a process that converts aluminum to its oxide. The oxide is thicker than the aluminum that is consumed, which means the dimension of the anodized part changes. The amount of change will depend on the anodizing process conditions (temperature, current density, etc.) and alloy. Under nominal Type II anodizing conditions, the rule of thumb is 2/3 in 1/3 out; for example, a coating that is 0.6 mil thick will have consumed 0.4 mil of aluminum. Under hard coat (Type III) anodizing conditions the ratio changes to ½ in ½ out.

Yes the surface will change.
I've seen reanodised cases and the actual surface finish remains. Same texture, just different colour anodising.

You can't oxidize an oxide.

What you call "re-anodization" is actually a process in which the anodized coat is removed, probably by abrasive sanding or some corrosive chemical bath to reveal the un-oxidized aluminum underneath, which can then be colored once again through oxidization (anodization). This will change the amount of actual non-oxidized aluminum that remains.

Sure the surface might feel smooth, but the actual amount of metal that will remain is less than what you started out with.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 14 November 2014, 14:30:39
You can't oxidize an oxide.

What you call "re-anodization" is actually a process in which the anodized coat is removed, probably by abrasive sanding or some corrosive chemical bath to reveal the un-oxidized aluminum underneath, which can then be colored once again through oxidization (anodization). This will change the amount of actual non-oxidized aluminum that remains.

Sure the surface might feel smooth, but the actual amount of metal that will remain is less than what you started out with.
Yes, that's what I mean. The removal of the oxide layer with a chemical bath followed by anodisation.

While it does affect the amount of material, it doesn't change the actual surface finish/texture [at least not very much]. I'm not sure how it would affect a scratch. That's a good question...
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 November 2014, 14:43:38
Yes, the surface will change after removing the original anodized layer prior to re-anodizing, however you need to remember that the original anodized layer is on the order of microns in thickness.  A quick dip in a special acid bath will almost instantly remove that layer and will very slightly smooth out the surface.  So if you had a grainy sandblasted finish before, the result will be very slightly smoother.  It's really inconsequential when changing a color of a keyboard case.  However in this case the issue is the scratches, which would be fixed only in color but not in texture; they will not fully vanish after reanodizing.  To remove those, the scratched surface needs to be properly refinished prior to reanodizing.  Anodizing will then simply convert the top couple dozen microns of surface into a hardened layer, but will keep the original texture of the surface that it was prior to anodizing.  Hence if you just chemically remove the original anodized layer and then re-anodize it right away, you'll end up with a slightly smoother anodized surface with the scratches still visible as thin indents.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 14 November 2014, 14:57:46
Yes, the surface will change after removing the original anodized layer prior to re-anodizing, however you need to remember that the original anodized layer is on the order of microns in thickness.  A quick dip in a special acid bath will almost instantly remove that layer and will very slightly smooth out the surface.  So if you had a grainy sandblasted finish before, the result will be very slightly smoother.  It's really inconsequential when changing a color of a keyboard case.  However in this case the issue is the scratches, which would be fixed only in color but not in texture; they will not fully vanish after reanodizing.  To remove those, the scratched surface needs to be properly refinished prior to reanodizing.  Anodizing will then simply convert the top couple dozen microns of surface into a hardened layer, but will keep the original texture of the surface that it was prior to anodizing.  Hence if you just chemically remove the original anodized layer and then re-anodize it right away, you'll end up with a slightly smoother anodized surface with the scratches still visible as thin indents.

Properly refinishing would be sand blasting and then anodizing correct?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 14 November 2014, 19:47:37
I believe you'd need to bead blast it to get a nice smooth finish.  I think Photeqk sand then bead blasted his Tek-80.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:16:44
I believe you'd need to bead blast it to get a nice smooth finish.  I think Photeqk sand then bead blasted his Tek-80.

I just looked it up, damn the Tek-80 is gorgeous. According to the thread Photekq had it bead blasted. The finish looks great and seems like the best plan to fix the case. So the steps would be remove the current anodizing, sand blast, bead blast, then anodize. This sounds doable, looks like I've found my winter project.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 02 December 2014, 14:49:45
mmmm....gmk dolch

(http://i.imgur.com/CPCEgou.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 15 February 2015, 00:47:58
maybe someone can answer this, i have a v2 on the way. is it possible to have the arrow cluster(up being the 1x to the right of short shift) with a plate? the pictures im seeing it doesn't look like the up and down would be alligned. could someone possible find/take a picture of the board in that spot?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 15 February 2015, 00:49:50
maybe someone can answer this, i have a v2 on the way. is it possible to have the arrow cluster(up being the 1x to the right of short shift) with a plate? the pictures im seeing it doesn't look like the up and down would be alligned. could someone possible find/take a picture of the board in that spot?

The v2 plate supports a 1800 layout so you should be good.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 15 February 2015, 00:53:08
maybe someone can answer this, i have a v2 on the way. is it possible to have the arrow cluster(up being the 1x to the right of short shift) with a plate? the pictures im seeing it doesn't look like the up and down would be alligned. could someone possible find/take a picture of the board in that spot?

The v2 plate supports a 1800 layout so you should be good.  :thumb:


More
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2539073652B2E93630BCDB)

 is the picture that has me confused. doesn't look like down is far enough to the right and left looks too far away.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 15 February 2015, 00:58:56
maybe someone can answer this, i have a v2 on the way. is it possible to have the arrow cluster(up being the 1x to the right of short shift) with a plate? the pictures im seeing it doesn't look like the up and down would be alligned. could someone possible find/take a picture of the board in that spot?

The v2 plate supports a 1800 layout so you should be good.  :thumb:


More
Show Image
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2539073652B2E93630BCDB)

 is the picture that has me confused. doesn't look like down is far enough to the right and left looks too far away.

Wait, that isn't a lightsaver.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:01:02
weird maybe v1?
http://duck0113.tistory.com/73
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: trizkut on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:02:07

More
Show Image
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2539073652B2E93630BCDB)

 is the picture that has me confused. doesn't look like down is far enough to the right and left looks too far away.


There were two plates in the GB.  I think it was the newer plate that supported the 1800 layout.  Here's what my plate looks like:

(http://i.imgur.com/m1vI4y7.jpg)


Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:02:42
weird maybe v1?
http://duck0113.tistory.com/73

Oh, I only said that because of the tabs. I guess the acrylic case needs them. Yeah the v1 doesn't support 1800, but the v2 does.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:03:14

More
Show Image
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2539073652B2E93630BCDB)

 is the picture that has me confused. doesn't look like down is far enough to the right and left looks too far away.


There were two plates in the GB.  I think it was the newer plate that supported the 1800 layout.  Here's what my plate looks like:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/m1vI4y7.jpg)





ah, thank you. hopefully the person i bought from has that plate.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: trizkut on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:04:47
weird maybe v1?
http://duck0113.tistory.com/73

Oh, I only said that because of the tabs. I guess the acrylic case needs them. Yeah the v1 doesn't support 1800, but the v2 does.

Yeah, the v2 plates don't have the tabs/wings
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:10:21
I think it must only be the acrylic one because I have a v1 and it doesn't have tabs.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Sun, 15 February 2015, 08:02:38
i have v1 and v2, both doesn't have the tabs.
must be a custom plate for the acrylic case

sharing my current lightsaber v2
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-478Yb9d9O8Y/VL3hMXl79uI/AAAAAAAAKg0/xuFzvtWnp2g/s1600/DSC06019.png)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: byker on Sun, 15 February 2015, 11:39:45
i have v1 and v2, both doesn't have the tabs.
must be a custom plate for the acrylic case

sharing my current lightsaber v2
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-478Yb9d9O8Y/VL3hMXl79uI/AAAAAAAAKg0/xuFzvtWnp2g/s1600/DSC06019.png)



Very nice, looks great with dolch.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: munch on Sun, 15 February 2015, 22:37:25
i have v1 and v2, both doesn't have the tabs.
must be a custom plate for the acrylic case

sharing my current lightsaber v2
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-478Yb9d9O8Y/VL3hMXl79uI/AAAAAAAAKg0/xuFzvtWnp2g/s1600/DSC06019.png)



Very nice, looks great with dolch.

yup. I think this one has the layout I was trying to get, but I gave up on lightsavering for now :p PCB so hard to get.
and it looks amazing with the dolch caps. very nicely done.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:48:30
maybe someone can help, i am at a complete loss for how to do anything on this v2. i've read all the info in broken english and nothing wants to work. i cant even turn on the leds.
im trying to make a new layout and when i try and save, it keeps saying run-time error 76 path not found.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:06:10
maybe someone can help, i am at a complete loss for how to do anything on this v2. i've read all the info in broken english and nothing wants to work. i cant even turn on the leds.
im trying to make a new layout and when i try and save, it keeps saying run-time error 76 path not found.

Rename the file to something simple and it will work.

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:50:42
so i just went to swap some switches and i found out that the seller lied and said it was a v2 when it infact is a v1. what should i do? i bought this so i could have the 1800 layout with the short right shift and a arrow cluster. this is beyond infuriating.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:58:04
Thanks for your sharing, ellton :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Fri, 27 February 2015, 17:49:11
burnt out some smaller stuff while removing leds. could anyone help me find parts highlighted in the attached image? i think i have found the correct diodes marked in blue, but i'm trying to find the smaller brown/tan colored whatevers marked in the other colors. they look like the same thing but one stands taller than the other. please and thank you =P
[attach=1]
My understanding is i dont need the 470ohm resistors if im not doing leds and i'd only need them on the specific keys if i did want a capslock
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Thu, 12 March 2015, 20:38:48
ha, i was the last person to post here, weird.
Just got this all set up and working finally.

(http://i.imgur.com/x3bX3HL.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:53:18
I want one of these so bad it's not even funny. :'(
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: seedvd on Wed, 13 May 2015, 18:31:41
Finally, I got my new lightsaver v2 built after long time waiting for parts.

(http://i.imgur.com/tNbgn4X.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 15 May 2015, 00:42:23
Finally, I got my new lightsaver v2 built after long time waiting for parts.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tNbgn4X.jpg?1)


Looks great! I loathe the white legend keys [the enter could stay maybe] but the board looks great.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 15 May 2015, 00:42:45
double post
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: seedvd on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:56:13
Finally, I got my new lightsaver v2 built after long time waiting for parts.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tNbgn4X.jpg?1)


Looks great! I loathe the white legend keys [the enter could stay maybe] but the board looks great.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 10 June 2015, 10:58:59
This thread is just 100% incredible.

Photoelectric, your post on Page 4 when you changed the LEDs made me feel sick that I don't have one of these.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 13 June 2015, 00:57:57
Aw, well hopefully there'll be another round of these some day.  They are very cool keyboards.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Tue, 07 July 2015, 17:08:30
It's about 85% there, but I like how its going. 

LSv1 (Ordered from Originative)
MX Clears
Clear Tops
White Stickered
SPRiT 62g - 78g Spacebar
Krytox Thick on switches, Lithium on stabs
SIP Sockets with white and UV LEDS ( UV are super dim, will probably go a different direction with color)
Purple SMD LEDs

No on told me how long it takes to lube and sticker a set of switches, ended up being a 3 days project, but most of my friends were out of town for the 4th and my girlfriend worked all weekend, so it was just me, a cue tip and a bottle of lube all weekend. ;)

Heres where I am at the moment, waiting on a keyset to come in, its unoriginal (DSA Dulch), but with the layout I want, and its hard to come by a key set with a 1u + and 0.  I am sure I will do a few different key sets in the life of this board. 

[attach=1]

Sorry I didn't take more pictures, I just have my phone so I did the best I could.

[attach=4]
[attach=5]

Was thinking about using my JTK purple set on it, but it doesn't have the 0 and + I need :/  And I also want to move the R/Shift around so I can use a short shift and a 1u in that slot.

One question for the custom keyboard veterans, any ideas why my R/Shift isn't working? I have checked polarity on the switch, reflowed the soldier joints, and reprogrammed both of the sockets in that spot and I still cannot get anything out of it.  The reactive LEDs work when it is pressed, but the keychecker in the keymapping software is showing nothing.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 07 July 2015, 19:41:41
It's about 85% there, but I like how its going. 

LSv1 (Ordered from Originative)
MX Clears
Clear Tops
White Stickered
SPRiT 62g - 78g Spacebar
Krytox Thick on switches, Lithium on stabs
SIP Sockets with white and UV LEDS ( UV are super dim, will probably go a different direction with color)
Purple SMD LEDs

No on told me how long it takes to lube and sticker a set of switches, ended up being a 3 days project, but most of my friends were out of town for the 4th and my girlfriend worked all weekend, so it was just me, a cue tip and a bottle of lube all weekend. ;)

Heres where I am at the moment, waiting on a keyset to come in, its unoriginal (DSA Dulch), but with the layout I want, and its hard to come by a key set with a 1u + and 0.  I am sure I will do a few different key sets in the life of this board. 

(Attachment Link)

Sorry I didn't take more pictures, I just have my phone so I did the best I could.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Was thinking about using my JTK purple set on it, but it doesn't have the 0 and + I need :/  And I also want to move the R/Shift around so I can use a short shift and a 1u in that slot.

One question for the custom keyboard veterans, any ideas why my R/Shift isn't working? I have checked polarity on the switch, reflowed the soldier joints, and reprogrammed both of the sockets in that spot and I still cannot get anything out of it.  The reactive LEDs work when it is pressed, but the keychecker in the keymapping software is showing nothing.

Thanks!
believe it or not when I first saw these I wasn't that jazzed with them. I then Got a chance to type on one and play with it in person. I changed my mind mighty freaking quick. I loved the heft of it the layout everything 8) this is amazing man haha I am so happy for you. Good luck with your non registering key (I am sure you will figure it out 8) ) unfortunately I have never lubed more then A 60% but even then I was at it for hours. (It helps to have switch tools of some sort and a plate to use as a lubing station) it is worth it totally 8)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: filphil on Tue, 07 July 2015, 20:55:08
It's about 85% there, but I like how its going. 

LSv1 (Ordered from Originative)
MX Clears
Clear Tops
White Stickered
SPRiT 62g - 78g Spacebar
Krytox Thick on switches, Lithium on stabs
SIP Sockets with white and UV LEDS ( UV are super dim, will probably go a different direction with color)
Purple SMD LEDs

No on told me how long it takes to lube and sticker a set of switches, ended up being a 3 days project, but most of my friends were out of town for the 4th and my girlfriend worked all weekend, so it was just me, a cue tip and a bottle of lube all weekend. ;)

Heres where I am at the moment, waiting on a keyset to come in, its unoriginal (DSA Dulch), but with the layout I want, and its hard to come by a key set with a 1u + and 0.  I am sure I will do a few different key sets in the life of this board. 

(Attachment Link)

Sorry I didn't take more pictures, I just have my phone so I did the best I could.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Was thinking about using my JTK purple set on it, but it doesn't have the 0 and + I need :/  And I also want to move the R/Shift around so I can use a short shift and a 1u in that slot.

One question for the custom keyboard veterans, any ideas why my R/Shift isn't working? I have checked polarity on the switch, reflowed the soldier joints, and reprogrammed both of the sockets in that spot and I still cannot get anything out of it.  The reactive LEDs work when it is pressed, but the keychecker in the keymapping software is showing nothing.

Thanks!

This happened with my ~ key when I had a lightsaver.  I tried changing system language to korean, loaded up the lightsaver v1.9a hex file, and loaded up the 02D lightsaver hex file.  One of those or going back in a combination of these eventually got it to worked.  It only happened once but it took a couple of flashes to get it working.  Give it a try.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:17:44
This happened with my ~ key when I had a lightsaver.  I tried changing system language to korean, loaded up the lightsaver v1.9a hex file, and loaded up the 02D lightsaver hex file.  One of those or going back in a combination of these eventually got it to worked.  It only happened once but it took a couple of flashes to get it working.  Give it a try.

I think that is what fixed my issue, I desoldiered the R/Shift and resoldiered 2 switches in that spot, and it still didn't work, but when I brought up keymapper it was now showing that there was nothing assigned to those 2 keys, so I assigned them and now they work fine! Thanks!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: filphil on Tue, 07 July 2015, 23:26:17
This happened with my ~ key when I had a lightsaver.  I tried changing system language to korean, loaded up the lightsaver v1.9a hex file, and loaded up the 02D lightsaver hex file.  One of those or going back in a combination of these eventually got it to worked.  It only happened once but it took a couple of flashes to get it working.  Give it a try.

I think that is what fixed my issue, I desoldiered the R/Shift and resoldiered 2 switches in that spot, and it still didn't work, but when I brought up keymapper it was now showing that there was nothing assigned to those 2 keys, so I assigned them and now they work fine! Thanks!

Happy to help.

Now if I could find a black LSv2. :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Mon, 13 July 2015, 11:45:52
Here she is in all her glory, I like the DSA profile so far, and I am OK with Dulch, but I am looking to try an SA sculpted set here soonish.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: radish on Mon, 13 July 2015, 19:08:08
Hey guys ive made a post on keyboards, but seems like no one is biting so i figured i would also post here.. hopefully someone has a better idea. I've been playing around with the 02d tool and its got a ton of functionality and i think im starting to figure it out but im still a bit confused about how some things works.

my main issue is that i dont understnad why my num pad numbers dont work. 0. 123 456 789 dont get mapped correctly. the arrow keys dont stick as well.

everything else pretty much seems to be working accoringly.. but i have no way of telling because i cant get the command key to work properly.

i press the C/M key and type in LLB or LLN and hit enter. nothing happens. not sure if im doing it right but there is no instructions that would imply im not doing it right.

is anyone willing to share some insight?

i was doing some research and found these awesome sites...

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=370119
http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dudgnl2&from=postList&categoryNo=15
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_dd&u=http%3A%2F%2Fduck0113.tistory.com%2F84

after trying various combinations of keys with the vague guidance of the ingrish translate from goodle.

i managed to get 02d installed and flip working to work but i was trying to get restore mode to work so i can see whats exactly mapped... (goes back to using the C/M key) but its very unclear as to what i need to do.

any how any help would be much appreciated. dont hesitate to PM me. and thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: filphil on Mon, 13 July 2015, 20:59:05
Hey guys ive made a post on keyboards, but seems like no one is biting so i figured i would also post here.. hopefully someone has a better idea. I've been playing around with the 02d tool and its got a ton of functionality and i think im starting to figure it out but im still a bit confused about how some things works.

my main issue is that i dont understnad why my num pad numbers dont work. 0. 123 456 789 dont get mapped correctly. the arrow keys dont stick as well.

everything else pretty much seems to be working accoringly.. but i have no way of telling because i cant get the command key to work properly.

i press the C/M key and type in LLB or LLN and hit enter. nothing happens. not sure if im doing it right but there is no instructions that would imply im not doing it right.

is anyone willing to share some insight?

i was doing some research and found these awesome sites...

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=370119
http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dudgnl2&from=postList&categoryNo=15
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_dd&u=http%3A%2F%2Fduck0113.tistory.com%2F84

after trying various combinations of keys with the vague guidance of the ingrish translate from goodle.

i managed to get 02d installed and flip working to work but i was trying to get restore mode to work so i can see whats exactly mapped... (goes back to using the C/M key) but its very unclear as to what i need to do.

any how any help would be much appreciated. dont hesitate to PM me. and thanks in advance!

Have you changed your system language to korean?  When my arrow mapping wouldn't stick I had to do that. 
Here she is in all her glory, I like the DSA profile so far, and I am OK with Dulch, but I am looking to try an SA sculpted set here soonish.
(Attachment Link)


I have an SA Retro keycap order that I posted in the group buy thread.  I specifically bought that set to use on my LSv1 when I had it so that's why there's a bunch of extra keys in the order.  The total is quite a bit but I would 100% say it's worth it for the lightsaver.   
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Mon, 13 July 2015, 21:12:26
I have an SA Retro keycap order that I posted in the group buy thread.  I specifically bought that set to use on my LSv1 when I had it so that's why there's a bunch of extra keys in the order.  The total is quite a bit but I would 100% say it's worth it for the lightsaver.

Yea, I considered it when the GB was on CtrlAlt, but I am not crazy about brown :/
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: filphil on Mon, 13 July 2015, 21:36:42
I have an SA Retro keycap order that I posted in the group buy thread.  I specifically bought that set to use on my LSv1 when I had it so that's why there's a bunch of extra keys in the order.  The total is quite a bit but I would 100% say it's worth it for the lightsaver.

Yea, I considered it when the GB was on CtrlAlt, but I am not crazy about brown :/

I think it looks nice. =)

Lemme find a pic for you

Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/wDDrjoe.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: radish on Mon, 13 July 2015, 22:53:35
Hey guys ive made a post on keyboards, but seems like no one is biting so i figured i would also post here.. hopefully someone has a better idea. I've been playing around with the 02d tool and its got a ton of functionality and i think im starting to figure it out but im still a bit confused about how some things works.

my main issue is that i dont understnad why my num pad numbers dont work. 0. 123 456 789 dont get mapped correctly. the arrow keys dont stick as well.

everything else pretty much seems to be working accoringly.. but i have no way of telling because i cant get the command key to work properly.

i press the C/M key and type in LLB or LLN and hit enter. nothing happens. not sure if im doing it right but there is no instructions that would imply im not doing it right.

is anyone willing to share some insight?

i was doing some research and found these awesome sites...

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=370119
http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dudgnl2&from=postList&categoryNo=15
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_dd&u=http%3A%2F%2Fduck0113.tistory.com%2F84

after trying various combinations of keys with the vague guidance of the ingrish translate from goodle.

i managed to get 02d installed and flip working to work but i was trying to get restore mode to work so i can see whats exactly mapped... (goes back to using the C/M key) but its very unclear as to what i need to do.

any how any help would be much appreciated. dont hesitate to PM me. and thanks in advance!

Have you changed your system language to korean?  When my arrow mapping wouldn't stick I had to do that. 
Here she is in all her glory, I like the DSA profile so far, and I am OK with Dulch, but I am looking to try an SA sculpted set here soonish.
(Attachment Link)


I have an SA Retro keycap order that I posted in the group buy thread.  I specifically bought that set to use on my LSv1 when I had it so that's why there's a bunch of extra keys in the order.  The total is quite a bit but I would 100% say it's worth it for the lightsaver.   

yes, i tried to change it to korean, it did work for the ekys. but i found that the num lock made was activated by default.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: filphil on Mon, 13 July 2015, 23:11:13
Awesome. So everything is good?

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 12 September 2015, 16:32:30
Bought this board last August and took it apart then never re built it. Now it's finally assembled but sadly it's been sold to a new owner.

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 15 October 2015, 13:23:23
Put GMK Red Alert on my Lightsaver V2

Before

(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)

After

(http://i.imgur.com/BGna1Kf.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: nguyenkimtam on Thu, 15 October 2015, 13:33:14
Put GMK Red Alert on my Lightsaver V2

Before

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/x91dr01.jpg)


After

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BGna1Kf.jpg)

Very beautiful dude  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 21 October 2015, 11:56:56
Someone has asked me regarding compatibility with Apple computers, and I actually have no idea as I only have Windows/Linux machines at home and can't test myself.  Anyone using a Lightsaver (or other recent Duck keyboards) on a Mac desktop/laptop and have any compatibility issues?  I'm guessing it should be okay.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Wed, 21 October 2015, 12:00:36
Someone has asked me regarding compatibility with Apple computers, and I actually have no idea as I only have Windows/Linux machines at home and can't test myself.  Anyone using a Lightsaver (or other recent Duck keyboards) on a Mac desktop/laptop and have any compatibility issues?  I'm guessing it should be okay.

Ill put a reminder to try tomorrow when I have my laptop with me at work.  Unless someone else answers sooner than that.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 21 October 2015, 19:37:16
Someone has asked me regarding compatibility with Apple computers, and I actually have no idea as I only have Windows/Linux machines at home and can't test myself.  Anyone using a Lightsaver (or other recent Duck keyboards) on a Mac desktop/laptop and have any compatibility issues?  I'm guessing it should be okay.

Ill put a reminder to try tomorrow when I have my laptop with me at work.  Unless someone else answers sooner than that.

Thanks very much for the offer!  That would be great!  If you could check that the numpad and layers work fine on an OS-X machine, that would be very useful.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Thu, 22 October 2015, 10:33:37
Someone has asked me regarding compatibility with Apple computers, and I actually have no idea as I only have Windows/Linux machines at home and can't test myself.  Anyone using a Lightsaver (or other recent Duck keyboards) on a Mac desktop/laptop and have any compatibility issues?  I'm guessing it should be okay.

Ill put a reminder to try tomorrow when I have my laptop with me at work.  Unless someone else answers sooner than that.

Thanks very much for the offer!  That would be great!  If you could check that the numpad and layers work fine on an OS-X machine, that would be very useful.

My LSv1 was basicly plug-n-play, OSX opened up a wizard and asked me to press a few buttons and then identify the layout, I chose ANSI, and everything works fine. It reads the windows key as command.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:02:03
Excellent, thank you so much for testing the compatibility.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:05:08
Excellent, thank you so much for testing the compatibility.

Glad I could help :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: saturnotaku on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:32:59
Glad I could help :D

I actually have another question, if you'll indulge me. On your Mac, can you turn the Num Lock on and off so that that former position types numbers and the latter has arrow keys at 2-4-6-8?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:35:00
Glad I could help :D

I actually have another question, if you'll indulge me. On your Mac, can you turn the Num Lock on and off so that that former position types numbers and the latter has arrow keys at 2-4-6-8?

I would love to help but my LS does not have a numlock mapped :/ sorry
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:00:26
Glad I could help :D

I actually have another question, if you'll indulge me. On your Mac, can you turn the Num Lock on and off so that that former position types numbers and the latter has arrow keys at 2-4-6-8?

That would be something you'd program into the keyboard directly as part of the keymap, independent of the operating system.  (The short answer is yes if that is how you have it set up on the keyboard itself).
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: limitz on Fri, 27 November 2015, 23:02:43
Posting in this thread as it seems most of the troubleshooting has happened here.

I cannot program this keyboard. I've got the newest version of O2D keymapper (1.7.56), and I've gotten FLIP installed, but everytime I try to upload firmware I always get a "DFU Programmer is not found" error. I've downloaded DFU Programmer and extracted it, and it still does not work.

I've downloaded the Korean IME for 8.1, and even when I've switche to that before opening the keymapper, it still won't upload.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 28 November 2015, 00:36:35
Posting in this thread as it seems most of the troubleshooting has happened here.

I cannot program this keyboard. I've got the newest version of O2D keymapper (1.7.56), and I've gotten FLIP installed, but everytime I try to upload firmware I always get a "DFU Programmer is not found" error. I've downloaded DFU Programmer and extracted it, and it still does not work.

I've downloaded the Korean IME for 8.1, and even when I've switche to that before opening the keymapper, it still won't upload.

Did you install the Atmel USB drivers?  See this basic summary (but ignore the bit about magnets, that's for a different controller.  Plug in your keyboard while holding the FLIP key as noted on the diagram in the OP and look at the Device Manager list):
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.msg949091#msg949091

The process for updating the firmware is the same as for a KMAC, listed here (steps 8-14):
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0

To clarify, the keymapper software only creates/modifies and saves a new keymap HEX file.  It does not upload the HEX file to the keyboard on its own--for that you need to use FLIP and load the HEX file you've saved.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 28 November 2015, 14:18:20
(http://puu.sh/llkEP/6ca5634be2.jpg)

Looks like once the Orion GB has finished Duck will work on Octagon v2 and then finally Lightsaver v3. It's been posted in the Orion v2 group buy but I figured to share it here as well. I've been dying to get my hands on a Lightsaver, ended up grabbing a RS96 but I won't miss the next the LSv3 group buy.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: bianco on Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:09:47
Posting in this thread as it seems most of the troubleshooting has happened here.

I cannot program this keyboard. I've got the newest version of O2D keymapper (1.7.56), and I've gotten FLIP installed, but everytime I try to upload firmware I always get a "DFU Programmer is not found" error. I've downloaded DFU Programmer and extracted it, and it still does not work.

I've downloaded the Korean IME for 8.1, and even when I've switche to that before opening the keymapper, it still won't upload.

Did you install the Atmel USB drivers?  See this basic summary (but ignore the bit about magnets, that's for a different controller.  Plug in your keyboard while holding the FLIP key as noted on the diagram in the OP and look at the Device Manager list):
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.msg949091#msg949091

The process for updating the firmware is the same as for a KMAC, listed here (steps 8-14):
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0

To clarify, the keymapper software only creates/modifies and saves a new keymap HEX file.  It does not upload the HEX file to the keyboard on its own--for that you need to use FLIP and load the HEX file you've saved.

if you're using windows 8 and above though, you'll have to enable unsigned drivers.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-can-i-install-hardware-with-unsigned-drivers-in-windows-8/

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:34:24
i have v1 and v2, both doesn't have the tabs.
must be a custom plate for the acrylic case

sharing my current lightsaber v2
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-478Yb9d9O8Y/VL3hMXl79uI/AAAAAAAAKg0/xuFzvtWnp2g/s1600/DSC06019.png)


I usually think that rows of multiple artisans look really gimmicky and overstated, but the color matching looks good on this one, pulls the thing together. Very nice job  :thumb:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: KushZEN on Sun, 13 December 2015, 02:24:51
I've finally fulfilled my dreams of owning a LS, I'll post pictures when it arrives, but I'm glad I finally got one. ;D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 13 December 2015, 20:58:22
(http://i.imgur.com/FTjJZgf.jpg)

Waiting for screws for blockers (from China so see ya guys in 2016)

No LEDs, need a new PCB for that.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 19 December 2015, 02:21:05
I assemble mine two months ago after letting it collect dust for almost a year.

Build Log: http://imgur.com/a/pfbC0
(http://i.imgur.com/S47Bfbt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3zS08cQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8KudJzb.jpg)

JT Purple-White: http://imgur.com/a/KyNtH
(http://i.imgur.com/RAYgy2l.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: fknraiden on Sat, 19 December 2015, 03:42:17
I assemble mine two months ago after letting it collect dust for almost a year.

Build Log: http://imgur.com/a/pfbC0
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/S47Bfbt.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3zS08cQ.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8KudJzb.jpg)


JT Purple-White: http://imgur.com/a/KyNtH
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RAYgy2l.jpg)



Nice Red Scarf  :confused:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 19 December 2015, 20:08:20

Nice Red Scarf  :confused:
Yup, Red Scarf case  :-[
Here's a typing test, please pardon me the 40wpm speed.

Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 04 January 2016, 19:22:43
Hello all you Lightsaver lovers....

I have finally got my first lightsaver, and I think it has some default programming going on... I am not sure if this is the correct thread, if it isn't please could you point me to the correct one and I'll be on my way :)

I've linked to this picture for key reference (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1462227#msg1462227):
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg)

So all the keys seem to work, the problem is, the "pause" key (F13) and Scroll Lock (F15) keys seem to not show up on the key tester (Aqua). I am not sure if this is because these keys have not been programmed yet, and therefore not showing? Is this normal, I haven't even tried programming the board... the firmware looks scary... does anyone have the file to map the keys so they are like the above image?

Thanks so much, I am a n00b!  :-[
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 04 January 2016, 19:24:41
Hello all you Lightsaver lovers....

I have finally got my first lightsaver, and I think it has some default programming going on... I am not sure if this is the correct thread, if it isn't please could you point me to the correct one and I'll be on my way :)

I've linked to this picture for key reference (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1462227#msg1462227):
Show Image
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg)


So all the keys seem to work, the problem is, the "pause" key (F13) and Scroll Lock (F15) keys seem to not show up on the key tester (Aqua). I am not sure if this is because these keys have not been programmed yet, and therefore not showing? Is this normal, I haven't even tried programming the board... the firmware looks scary... does anyone have the file to map the keys so they are like the above image?

Thanks so much, I am a n00b!  :-[

Use O2D's

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 04 January 2016, 19:30:20
Hello all you Lightsaver lovers....

I have finally got my first lightsaver, and I think it has some default programming going on... I am not sure if this is the correct thread, if it isn't please could you point me to the correct one and I'll be on my way :)

I've linked to this picture for key reference (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1462227#msg1462227):
Show Image
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg)


So all the keys seem to work, the problem is, the "pause" key (F13) and Scroll Lock (F15) keys seem to not show up on the key tester (Aqua). I am not sure if this is because these keys have not been programmed yet, and therefore not showing? Is this normal, I haven't even tried programming the board... the firmware looks scary... does anyone have the file to map the keys so they are like the above image?

Thanks so much, I am a n00b!  :-[

Use O2D's

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

Thank you for the advice, I have downloaded and will have a look. I just don't want to mess up what I have at the moment :|
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 January 2016, 20:10:15
Hello all you Lightsaver lovers....

I have finally got my first lightsaver, and I think it has some default programming going on... I am not sure if this is the correct thread, if it isn't please could you point me to the correct one and I'll be on my way :)

I've linked to this picture for key reference (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1462227#msg1462227):
Show Image
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg)


So all the keys seem to work, the problem is, the "pause" key (F13) and Scroll Lock (F15) keys seem to not show up on the key tester (Aqua). I am not sure if this is because these keys have not been programmed yet, and therefore not showing? Is this normal, I haven't even tried programming the board... the firmware looks scary... does anyone have the file to map the keys so they are like the above image?

Thanks so much, I am a n00b!  :-[

That's a very nice arrow cluster and WASD you have there, not to mention the Esc :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 04 January 2016, 20:50:04
Hello all you Lightsaver lovers....

I have finally got my first lightsaver, and I think it has some default programming going on... I am not sure if this is the correct thread, if it isn't please could you point me to the correct one and I'll be on my way :)

I've linked to this picture for key reference (source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1462227#msg1462227):
Show Image
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg)


So all the keys seem to work, the problem is, the "pause" key (F13) and Scroll Lock (F15) keys seem to not show up on the key tester (Aqua). I am not sure if this is because these keys have not been programmed yet, and therefore not showing? Is this normal, I haven't even tried programming the board... the firmware looks scary... does anyone have the file to map the keys so they are like the above image?

Thanks so much, I am a n00b!  :-[

That's a very nice arrow cluster and WASD you have there, not to mention the Esc :D

This is not my board, I took this picture from another user, I have credited them above.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sircheddar on Wed, 17 February 2016, 12:31:33
Does the lightsaver pcb itself have LEDs or just LED support ( for the bottom LEDs)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 17 February 2016, 12:39:48
Does the lightsaver pcb itself have LEDs or just LED support ( for the bottom LEDs)

The SMD LEDs are presoldered.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sircheddar on Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:40:22
Does the lightsaver pcb itself have LEDs or just LED support ( for the bottom LEDs)

The SMD LEDs are presoldered.

Cool thanks for the quiz response
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:21:09
Lightsaver v1.5 revived!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 11:33:05
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: mrboovn on Fri, 18 March 2016, 00:28:06
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)

perfect matching  :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 19 March 2016, 14:45:00
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)


perfect
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 March 2016, 05:25:59
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)


Light green LEDs?

Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 30 March 2016, 01:51:35
sorry to respond terribly late:P

Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)

perfect matching  :eek: :eek:
thanks:)

perfect

The size, layout, and weight have all been perfect for my needs:)

Light green LEDs?

Very nice indeed!

Thanks! I've always wanted a green lightsaber


Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 April 2016, 00:02:41
Light green LEDs?

Very nice indeed!

Thanks! I've always wanted a green lightsaber

A green LightSaver is probably as close as you'll get ;)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: vincentalpha on Wed, 28 September 2016, 10:07:42
hey guys, I am not sure if this the right topic to ask but I am looking for someone who has experience with lightsaver keyboard.
I bought a keyboard that use the same layout as ZZ96 (not RS3 for sure, because it doesn't use remote control to control back light) and I just learnt about the spacefn feature from TMK. I am loving that features and want to use it with my 96keyboard.
Anyone can please help me to keymap spacefn? and what's software should I use?
I created a thread here and hope that you guys can answer me over there.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84914.0
Thanks.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:54:37
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)


Wow. That is so clean!

Where'd you get those beautiful LEDs ;-;
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dubious on Thu, 02 March 2017, 21:43:31
If anyone happened to post more pictures of their lightsaver, I would not mind.. :))
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 03 March 2017, 00:11:16
If anyone happened to post more pictures of their lightsaver, I would not mind.. :))

Picture from 2014 when I still had my Lightsaver V1

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 03 March 2017, 00:19:34
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)


Wow. That is so clean!

Where'd you get those beautiful LEDs ;-;

Um seriously, where can i get some "lime green" LEDs?! That looks amazing.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dubious on Fri, 03 March 2017, 16:13:45
If anyone happened to post more pictures of their lightsaver, I would not mind.. :))

Picture from 2014 when I still had my Lightsaver V1

(Attachment Link)

looks good! Wish they were offering grey again tho

I can't ever decide if I like DSA hyperfuse or GMK better.... SA is just going to make things harder  :confused:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 04 March 2017, 00:55:27
Project Name: Qui-Duck Jinn

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iVkDCZs.jpg)


Wow. That is so clean!

Where'd you get those beautiful LEDs ;-;

Um seriously, where can i get some "lime green" LEDs?! That looks amazing.

Those are perhaps regular green LEDs?  But there are yellow-green 1.8mm LEDs you can get here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8mm-Water-Clear-Diffused-Round-Top-Warm-White-Red-Blue-Light-LED-Diodes-/122100046749?var=&hash=item1c6dbadb9d:m:mXzKVI3VJPlEwcT9u0v7cOQ

(enter 572nm here  https://academo.org/demos/wavelength-to-colour-relationship/)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: OfTheWild on Sat, 04 March 2017, 03:48:33
Ah very nice! Thanks for the link to the wavelength tool as well. Thats kinda cool. You're right though, the 572nm wavelength looks to be really close to what that is in the photo.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombii on Sat, 18 March 2017, 19:16:53
Finally got my dream board (LSv1)!
It got in from Korea about a month ago, and I recently finished converting it from MX Whites to Gateron Clears. Unfortunately, during resoldering, a couple traces got lifted (LED traces), does anyone know if its possible to jump these or otherwise make those LEDs functional? I installed SIP sockets in every switch before realizing that some traces were lifted, so currently only 3 of my LEDs are actually soldered -_-

Anyway, here's a picture, forgive the messy desk, I haven't gotten the chance to clean it recently and I spend most of my time here.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nkv9rC7.jpg)

Really regretting selling my good camera...
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: limitz on Mon, 20 March 2017, 10:46:53
Finally got my dream board (LSv1)!
It got in from Korea about a month ago, and I recently finished converting it from MX Whites to Gateron Clears. Unfortunately, during resoldering, a couple traces got lifted (LED traces), does anyone know if its possible to jump these or otherwise make those LEDs functional? I installed SIP sockets in every switch before realizing that some traces were lifted, so currently only 3 of my LEDs are actually soldered -_-

Anyway, here's a picture, forgive the messy desk, I haven't gotten the chance to clean it recently and I spend most of my time here.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Nkv9rC7.jpg)


Really regretting selling my good camera...

You can easily fix those by jumping the lifted trace with a wire.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombii on Mon, 20 March 2017, 14:37:22
Finally got my dream board (LSv1)!
It got in from Korea about a month ago, and I recently finished converting it from MX Whites to Gateron Clears. Unfortunately, during resoldering, a couple traces got lifted (LED traces), does anyone know if its possible to jump these or otherwise make those LEDs functional? I installed SIP sockets in every switch before realizing that some traces were lifted, so currently only 3 of my LEDs are actually soldered -_-

Anyway, here's a picture, forgive the messy desk, I haven't gotten the chance to clean it recently and I spend most of my time here.

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(http://i.imgur.com/Nkv9rC7.jpg)


Really regretting selling my good camera...

You can easily fix those by jumping the lifted trace with a wire.

Yep, I got some help in another subforum and I'll be soldering them tomorrow hopefully.


EDIT:
And it's fixed!
(http://horobox.co.uk/u/hq93Jn.jpg)

my camera, however, still sucks at low-light
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombii on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:18:07
Apologies for the double post, but does anyone know the best way to shave LEDs? Also, is there a way to change which LED toggles with numlock?
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:35:21
Started general info thread on all duck kits here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88454

Looks like image links to duck's site are all broken now due to a change in how they are hosted on duck's site.  Will have to try to revise.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 24 March 2017, 14:37:09
Apologies for the double post, but does anyone know the best way to shave LEDs? Also, is there a way to change which LED toggles with numlock?

Shave as in take off some of the excess height? Are you using 2x3x4mm?

I shaved portions off the top of my 2x3x4's to create an angle. This eliminated the rubbing interference between the LED and keycap underside. The technique I used was angling the led at 45 or so degrees and dragging it across some 320 grit sandpaper.

In hindsight it would have been easier to use 1.8mm but I couldn't find any in my desired color, sky blue.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Zombii on Fri, 24 March 2017, 17:41:09
Apologies for the double post, but does anyone know the best way to shave LEDs? Also, is there a way to change which LED toggles with numlock?

Shave as in take off some of the excess height? Are you using 2x3x4mm?

I shaved portions off the top of my 2x3x4's to create an angle. This eliminated the rubbing interference between the LED and keycap underside. The technique I used was angling the led at 45 or so degrees and dragging it some 320 grit sandpaper.

In hindsight it would have been easier to use 1.8mm but I couldn't find any in my desired color, sky blue.

Yeah, 2x3x4. I'll try that
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Sat, 25 March 2017, 22:18:38
A few snaps of mine in various set ups

(http://i.imgur.com/3F2N7Nu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/MdNCj9M.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nihxLwK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qEiUV2A.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pibbstg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sTiCJmA.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 25 March 2017, 23:02:03
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(http://i.imgur.com/MdNCj9M.jpg)


Perfection!
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: dubious on Sun, 26 March 2017, 14:59:57
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rYHElFGWhQO8o/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 23 October 2017, 09:39:29
A few snaps of mine in various set ups

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(http://i.imgur.com/MdNCj9M.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/nihxLwK.jpg)



I really think DSA looks so good on this board. Heres my favorite picture of my Lightsaver. Dat ass is fatttt ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/BFYsq4O.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 10:05:08
Double posting  ^-^

Dressed my lightsaver up in some fancy DCS a while ago. I'm changing the layout and caps so will update with more pics soon

(https://i.imgur.com/OcwpnRG.jpg)

I'd like to see some v3 pictures in here!  :)
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Invaderevan on Fri, 02 February 2018, 10:29:13
Double posting  ^-^

Dressed my lightsaver up in some fancy DCS a while ago. I'm changing the layout and caps so will update with more pics soon

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(https://i.imgur.com/OcwpnRG.jpg)


I'd like to see some v3 pictures in here!  :)

Looks great man!

My poor LSv3 has been in a drawer ready to solder with all the switches in, I really need to finish it and get some pics up.
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 11:16:30
Double posting  ^-^

Dressed my lightsaver up in some fancy DCS a while ago. I'm changing the layout and caps so will update with more pics soon

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OcwpnRG.jpg)


I'd like to see some v3 pictures in here!  :)

Looks great man!

My poor LSv3 has been in a drawer ready to solder with all the switches in, I really need to finish it and get some pics up.

Thanks! Yes, get it together, man! ;D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 02 February 2018, 11:28:22
A few snaps of mine in various set ups

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MdNCj9M.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nihxLwK.jpg)



I really think DSA looks so good on this board. Heres my favorite picture of my Lightsaver. Dat ass is fatttt ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BFYsq4O.jpg)


LSv1 is my favorite for that huge monolithic rear end :D
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 02 February 2018, 15:48:39
My LSv3 is waiting to be built, but it's also for sale because I need the money. If it doesn't sell by the time I don't need the money any more, I'll build it. These pics are making me wanna build it, but I feel like I probably won't use it much... decisions, decisions.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 15:57:14
A few snaps of mine in various set ups

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MdNCj9M.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nihxLwK.jpg)



I really think DSA looks so good on this board. Heres my favorite picture of my Lightsaver. Dat ass is fatttt ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BFYsq4O.jpg)


LSv1 is my favorite for that huge monolithic rear end :D

That's much better put :))

I was thinking of saying, "20" sides make 20"  eyes"

But yes, its so simple and aggressive - I love it! 
Title: Re: Post your LightSaver keyboard photos!
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 February 2018, 18:14:00
A few snaps of mine in various set ups

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MdNCj9M.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nihxLwK.jpg)



I really think DSA looks so good on this board. Heres my favorite picture of my Lightsaver. Dat ass is fatttt ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BFYsq4O.jpg)


LSv1 is my favorite for that huge monolithic rear end :D

That's much better put :))

I was thinking of saying, "20" sides make 20"  eyes"

But yes, its so simple and aggressive - I love it!

v1 and v2 are both really good, but the sides on v1 duck boards are ACE