[GB] The Smallfry Keyboard Kit (Closed for Orders, 97% shipped. SEE LAST POSTS)

[SpAmRaY]

would teensy people be interested in having that money go to a completely custom color?

PM sent regarding this.

[mkawa]

for folks who want gold, ray just pitched in for desert gold. any other takers? let's do this!

note we're doing desert gold regardless of whether others want in on it, so no need to think too hard. if you want it, you get it!

[Greeeg]

If massdrop is fulfilling the PCBs late July? Does that mean that you will be able to ship the remaining components before then? Isn't painting 75% of the plates the only remaining step?

This is a little disappointing since I have been prototyping a Bluetooth mod based on a teensy compatible PCB.

this post makes me sad smiley sad

sad smiley

woah, that also makes me smiley sad..

would you be interested in working on an infinity bluetooth mod? 

this would be cool enough that i'd be interested on helping out with development 

I still want to make a bluetooth enabled JD40. I see that the source code is available for the infinity keyboard controller. the controller has enough power to add bluetooth functionality.

Currently I'm thinking a slave module that houses a battery and bluetooth controller. which would communicate with the infinity controller on the PCB. But it would need usb power for charging, some form of communication with the onboard controller (some kind of serial or i2c), and a way to bypass the onboard regulator. (to enable the controller to run off batteries)

These are all things that can't be determined without the PCB design files or the PCB itself. So until the keyboards arrive I can't do much.

I also updated my color choices, because I have no clue what I picked 8 months ago.

[SpAmRaY]

for folks who want gold, ray just pitched in for desert gold. any other takers? let's do this!

note we're doing desert gold regardless of whether others want in on it, so no need to think too hard. if you want it, you get it!

for anyone who missed the link before

http://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/H-246Q/desert-gold/

[shrapneL]

Count me in for desert gold

[r3nfr0]

You can take my teensy $$$ and add it to the donation

[zflamewing]

there's been enough people writing for burnt bronze that i'm going to go with that color. if you have a strong preference for bronze instead of burnt bronze, speak now or hold your peace!

I was originally a proponent of burnt bronze but when you linked the later color options and the bronze linked to a darker bronze color, Barret Bronze,  I fell in love with that.

I'm more interested in the darker coppery bronze tones.

I was hoping Barret Bronze looks more like below:


I'm still willing to be a lab rat for the bronze option if one is needed.  I'd also donate my teensy money to the name of color options as well.

[fatchoi]

would teensy people be interested in having that money go to a completely custom color?

Hi mkawa, I'm going with existing color choice, so I'd prefer a refund of my teensy please.

[dashing_girlboy]

Hi mkawa, I'm going with existing color choice, so I'd prefer a refund of my teensy please.

Same here, I would prefer a refund of my teensy as well. And also, is it possible to have a refund for that extra PCB that we ordered as well? D: Since the PCBs are actually not produced yet.

[byker]

I would also prefer a refund for the teensy.

[Yslen]

No idea whether I bought a teensy...

[mkawa]

would teensy people be interested in having that money go to a completely custom color?

Hi mkawa, I'm going with existing color choice, so I'd prefer a refund of my teensy please.

please pm me your order number and paypal address. thanks!

[mkawa]

if you ordered an extra pcb, you will get an extra pcb. that is the current plan.

oh, and note that those who are PMing me for teensy refunds, i will need to verify that your paypal address is the same as the email address on your account (although you can change the email address attached to your geekhackers account!).

[Melvang]

I would like my plates as such shipped as they are available.  My order was raw as well so no painting to work on.  Also, will the infinity keyboard firmware stuffs work with a handwired matrix on a teensy 3.x?

[fatchoi]

Just one thing I suddenly have in mind is that:

Will the newly design PCB be guaranteed to work with the titanium plates? I am just a little bit worried that the PCB will come out incompatible with our plates, rendering them useless.
Since it's still under design stage, it'd cool if mkawa could remind them about this point please.

[jdcarpe]

Just one thing I suddenly have in mind is that:

Will the newly design PCB be guaranteed to work with the titanium plates? I am just a little bit worried that the PCB will come out incompatible with our plates, rendering them useless.
Since it's still under design stage, it'd cool if mkawa could remind them about this point please.

It's still my design.

I've been working with Massdrop and Input Club to get this done. Rest assured, the new PCBs will be 100% backward compatible with all existing JD40 hardware. The new PCB has more layout options, where the original PCB was a fixed layout. But the original layout is still there, so it can work with existing plates, such as the ones in this GB.

[tbc]

Just one thing I suddenly have in mind is that:

Will the newly design PCB be guaranteed to work with the titanium plates? I am just a little bit worried that the PCB will come out incompatible with our plates, rendering them useless.
Since it's still under design stage, it'd cool if mkawa could remind them about this point please.

It's still my design.

I've been working with Massdrop and Input Club to get this done. Rest assured, the new PCBs will be 100% backward compatible with all existing JD40 hardware. The new PCB has more layout options, where the original PCB was a fixed layout. But the original layout is still there, so it can work with existing plates, such as the ones in this GB.

are these new layouts shown somewhere?

[joey]

I would like my plates as such shipped as they are available.  My order was raw as well so no painting to work on.  Also, will the infinity keyboard firmware stuffs work with a handwired matrix on a teensy 3.x?

The infinity/kiibohd firmware works with Teensy 3.x.

[Ceedog]

I'm interested in having my Teensy money go to a custom color... provided I find a good one!

[fatchoi]

Just one thing I suddenly have in mind is that:

Will the newly design PCB be guaranteed to work with the titanium plates? I am just a little bit worried that the PCB will come out incompatible with our plates, rendering them useless.
Since it's still under design stage, it'd cool if mkawa could remind them about this point please.

It's still my design.

I've been working with Massdrop and Input Club to get this done. Rest assured, the new PCBs will be 100% backward compatible with all existing JD40 hardware. The new PCB has more layout options, where the original PCB was a fixed layout. But the original layout is still there, so it can work with existing plates, such as the ones in this GB.

Backward compatible? That's good.
But I doubt if our titanium case is a "backward"

Please build LED backlighting functionality too 

[mkawa]

there's been enough people writing for burnt bronze that i'm going to go with that color. if you have a strong preference for bronze instead of burnt bronze, speak now or hold your peace!

I was originally a proponent of burnt bronze but when you linked the later color options and the bronze linked to a darker bronze color, Barret Bronze,  I fell in love with that.

I'm more interested in the darker coppery bronze tones.

I was hoping Barret Bronze looks more like below:

Show Image

I'm still willing to be a lab rat for the bronze option if one is needed.  I'd also donate my teensy money to the name of color options as well.

THIS BRONZE IS INCREDIBLE

[Firebolt1914]

Purple plates have already been painted, correct?

Edit: yes they have

[HaaTa]

If massdrop is fulfilling the PCBs late July? Does that mean that you will be able to ship the remaining components before then? Isn't painting 75% of the plates the only remaining step?

This is a little disappointing since I have been prototyping a Bluetooth mod based on a teensy compatible PCB.

this post makes me sad smiley sad

sad smiley

woah, that also makes me smiley sad..

would you be interested in working on an infinity bluetooth mod? 

this would be cool enough that i'd be interested on helping out with development 

I still want to make a bluetooth enabled JD40. I see that the source code is available for the infinity keyboard controller. the controller has enough power to add bluetooth functionality.

Currently I'm thinking a slave module that houses a battery and bluetooth controller. which would communicate with the infinity controller on the PCB. But it would need usb power for charging, some form of communication with the onboard controller (some kind of serial or i2c), and a way to bypass the onboard regulator. (to enable the controller to run off batteries)

These are all things that can't be determined without the PCB design files or the PCB itself. So until the keyboards arrive I can't do much.

I also updated my color choices, because I have no clue what I picked 8 months ago.

Neat. What sort of Bluetooth module were you planning on using?
I'll be exposing a UART header (Rx and Tx of UART0) for debug purposes. However it could be repurposed for things like Bluetooth.

Exposing SPI is a bit trickier (never planned for SPI usage on the original Infinity, so it would require large schematic changes) so that's likely a no-go.

Something like http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/RF-Digital/RFD22102/?qs=MxnWX8BLHKcwkuVNwF2v8A%3D%3D&kpid=1035900368&gclid=Cj0KEQjwgI6pBRDak6aRovWNqLsBEiQA8zZSLtYrBveTma82Vc61pqpdWxJ57cMTATaf0vpUaXxH3zIaApTK8P8HAQ works via UART or SPI.
This summer I'll be doing some investigation into this module to see if I can do NKRO Bluetooth (first via UART, then SPI).

[tbc]

i'm only speaking for myself here, but 2kro is fine with me.  i'm only using mine for light notetaking purposes so even if kro issue pops up, it's a nonissue.

if any of that makes it easier

[Greeeg]

If massdrop is fulfilling the PCBs late July? Does that mean that you will be able to ship the remaining components before then? Isn't painting 75% of the plates the only remaining step?

This is a little disappointing since I have been prototyping a Bluetooth mod based on a teensy compatible PCB.

this post makes me sad smiley sad

sad smiley

woah, that also makes me smiley sad..

would you be interested in working on an infinity bluetooth mod? 

this would be cool enough that i'd be interested on helping out with development 

I still want to make a bluetooth enabled JD40. I see that the source code is available for the infinity keyboard controller. the controller has enough power to add bluetooth functionality.

Currently I'm thinking a slave module that houses a battery and bluetooth controller. which would communicate with the infinity controller on the PCB. But it would need usb power for charging, some form of communication with the onboard controller (some kind of serial or i2c), and a way to bypass the onboard regulator. (to enable the controller to run off batteries)

These are all things that can't be determined without the PCB design files or the PCB itself. So until the keyboards arrive I can't do much.

I also updated my color choices, because I have no clue what I picked 8 months ago.

Neat. What sort of Bluetooth module were you planning on using?
I'll be exposing a UART header (Rx and Tx of UART0) for debug purposes. However it could be repurposed for things like Bluetooth.

Exposing SPI is a bit trickier (never planned for SPI usage on the original Infinity, so it would require large schematic changes) so that's likely a no-go.

Something like http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/RF-Digital/RFD22102/?qs=MxnWX8BLHKcwkuVNwF2v8A%3D%3D&kpid=1035900368&gclid=Cj0KEQjwgI6pBRDak6aRovWNqLsBEiQA8zZSLtYrBveTma82Vc61pqpdWxJ57cMTATaf0vpUaXxH3zIaApTK8P8HAQ works via UART or SPI.
This summer I'll be doing some investigation into this module to see if I can do NKRO Bluetooth (first via UART, then SPI).

UART would be perfect. I'm using TI's CC2541. And I have a friend who has developed a customs firmware for a Bluetooth to think pad keyboard. I have all the CC2541 development tools so I can implement whatever protocol will play well with the two controllers.

[HaaTa]

If you want a head-start, here's the datasheet you want http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/K20P48M50SF0RM.pdf Chapter 45 (pg. 1039).

I have a debug module I use for using UART0 on the Infinity keyboard (mk20dx128vlf5), all the code to use it is already there.
https://github.com/kiibohd/controller/blob/master/Output/uartOut/arm/uart_serial.c

Most of the work is likely creating a new Output module (https://github.com/kiibohd/controller/tree/master/Output) that sends the USB descriptors via UART instead of USB.


Because the PCBs are still a ways out, if you want a dev board a Teensy 3.0 will work quite well (very close in specs). A 3.1 will also work, but you might run into some incompatibilities (unlikely though). I'm pretty busy right now with the Infinity ErgoDox, but you can find me on the #geekhack @ irc.freenode.net IRC channel if you want faster question response.

[zflamewing]

there's been enough people writing for burnt bronze that i'm going to go with that color. if you have a strong preference for bronze instead of burnt bronze, speak now or hold your peace!

I was originally a proponent of burnt bronze but when you linked the later color options and the bronze linked to a darker bronze color, Barret Bronze,  I fell in love with that.

I'm more interested in the darker coppery bronze tones.

I was hoping Barret Bronze looks more like below:

Show Image

I'm still willing to be a lab rat for the bronze option if one is needed.  I'd also donate my teensy money to the name of color options as well.

THIS BRONZE IS INCREDIBLE

that's one of the first images that came back when I googled Barret Bronze.   Which the normal bronze option linked to.

[mkawa]

Purple plates have already been painted, correct?

Edit: yes they have

yah, rainbow still has them, but they are all done, and looking great. tammi hasn't packed them up yet; they're probably going to go in her next shipment back to me

[mkawa]

If you want a head-start, here's the datasheet you want http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/K20P48M50SF0RM.pdf Chapter 45 (pg. 1039).

I have a debug module I use for using UART0 on the Infinity keyboard (mk20dx128vlf5), all the code to use it is already there.
https://github.com/kiibohd/controller/blob/master/Output/uartOut/arm/uart_serial.c

Most of the work is likely creating a new Output module (https://github.com/kiibohd/controller/tree/master/Output) that sends the USB descriptors via UART instead of USB.


Because the PCBs are still a ways out, if you want a dev board a Teensy 3.0 will work quite well (very close in specs). A 3.1 will also work, but you might run into some incompatibilities (unlikely though). I'm pretty busy right now with the Infinity ErgoDox, but you can find me on the #geekhack @ irc.freenode.net IRC channel if you want faster question response.

i think there's strictly more functionality on the kinetis you're using for the infinity than on that atmel chip, so hijacking a GPIO should be fine as long as the pin isn't being used in the current codebase. a uart output module is also a generally nice thing to have in the codebase regardless.

there are a number of atmel reference boards that have BT phy/chip radio in a can with a really nice tiny footprint; they're basically attinys or atmegas with a mixed more BT core onboard. i went looking around at the BT options recently and iirc those were the cheapest and nicest packages i found.

[fatchoi]

Would be quite interested and excited about the BT mod. Hope someone could post a guide of how to implement, as I'm not familiar with it.

[JWK]

<snip> Rest assured, the new PCBs will be 100% backward compatible with all existing JD40 hardware. The new PCB has more layout options, where the original PCB was a fixed layout. But the original layout is still there, so it can work with existing plates, such as the ones in this GB.

Will this same PCB also be the JD45 PCB? 

[jdcarpe]

<snip> Rest assured, the new PCBs will be 100% backward compatible with all existing JD40 hardware. The new PCB has more layout options, where the original PCB was a fixed layout. But the original layout is still there, so it can work with existing plates, such as the ones in this GB.

Will this same PCB also be the JD45 PCB? 

No, that is a completely separate project.

[jonlorusso]

What are the chances this will (ever) be available again on geekhackers?  I was pretty late to the show.

[Skuloth]

What are the chances this will (ever) be available again on geekhackers?  I was pretty late to the show.

Very low. However there are people still looking to sell their kits iirc.

[ImDaBaron]

What are the chances this will (ever) be available again on geekhackers?  I was pretty late to the show.

Very low. However there are people still looking to sell their kits iirc.

If someone wants to sell their spot I'm interested

[jonlorusso]

I am interested as well

[kravlin]

thirded!

[Yslen]

Happy to sell mine at cost. Includes the notched plate and spare pcb, if I remember correctly.

[jonlorusso]

Happy to sell mine at cost. Includes the notched plate and spare pcb, if I remember correctly.

What color plates?

[Yslen]

I believe I selected raw titanium. I don't know whether there's still the option to change that if the order is taken over by someone else... anyone know?

[Skuloth]

I believe I selected raw titanium. I don't know whether there's still the option to change that if the order is taken over by someone else... anyone know?

I feel like the raw plates are locked in at this point. Kawa talked about within the last few pages iirc.

[mkawa]

yah, raw plates are locked in.

the chances of this gb ever happening again is zero.

[r3nfr0]

With the new PCBs it sounds like MassDrop is getting in the game...

[Thechemist]

I am still assembling keyboards for the users below:

Vibex ( missing teensy, hasn't chosen led color )

GSimon ( you are all set, thanks )

Babyeatinwu ( you are all set, thanks )

Ranker ( needs teensy and switches )

Docwlad ( you are all set, thanks )


Since one person sold his order and that person is building his JD himself it opens up one spot for someone to have their JD assembled for free by me, please message me so that I can have your order shipped to me with others.

Edit: I would prefer that it would be someone that hasn't bought all of the essential tools to build their JD or someone that doesn't feel comfortable building theirs.

[Yslen]

My kit is still available. Notched raw titanium plate, extra pcb, teensy*, $256 (which is what I paid).

Edit: some logistics to sort here. Going to PM mkawa about teensy refund so price above will drop slightly. Also need to check how transfers are going to work... vaguely remember asking this months ago. If this is going to have to be shipped to me (UK) then to somewhere else then there will be a delay/shipping costs.

[mkawa]

i'll ship directly to the new buyer. use the contact form on the site to email me for the teensy refund and i'll get that taken care of asap

[Skuloth]

i'll ship directly to the new buyer. use the contact form on the site to email me for the teensy refund and i'll get that taken care of asap

I just filled one out as well.

[Yslen]

Awesome, will do that

[PandaSPUR]

Wait ****, I'm locked into the raw notched plate now? :|

I haven't checked on the thread in a while.. figured we'd get emails or PMs if something major happened.

[jonlorusso]

What does it take to drill through titanium plates.  If i wanted to add a hole to the top plate (for a trackpoint).  I understand the PCB will cause other issues. Just wondering about the titanium...