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Title: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: phinix on Mon, 28 February 2022, 07:23:34
Do you guys know of any F13 hotswap pcb?
Like for Frog TKL.
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: granola bar enthusiast on Sun, 24 April 2022, 21:49:00
The Mr. Suit's PCB is in-stock on Qwertykeys.com right now, although it only fits 7u spacebar with F13 Layout...
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: phinix on Mon, 25 April 2022, 03:13:10
Quote from: granola bar enthusiast on Sun, 24 April 2022, 21:49:00
The Mr. Suit's PCB is in-stock on Qwertykeys.com right now, although it only fits 7u spacebar with F13 Layout...

I wonder if its compatible with Frog TKL?
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: Arrinura on Wed, 27 April 2022, 23:34:32
Quote from: phinix on Mon, 25 April 2022, 03:13:10
Quote from: granola bar enthusiast on Sun, 24 April 2022, 21:49:00
The Mr. Suit's PCB is in-stock on Qwertykeys.com right now, although it only fits 7u spacebar with F13 Layout...

I wonder if its compatible with Frog TKL?

Mr Suit PCB is not compatible with the Frog because it uses a daughterboard. There is a preorder for the FreeBird TKL PCB from KFA  (https://keebsforall.com/collections/pcb_plates/products/freebirdtkl-pcb) which has the same compatibility as the H88C. The only problem is since it's F13 WKL, the bottom row will be north facing switches while the rest is south facing.
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: phinix on Thu, 28 April 2022, 03:02:49
Quote from: Arrinura on Wed, 27 April 2022, 23:34:32
Quote from: phinix on Mon, 25 April 2022, 03:13:10
Quote from: granola bar enthusiast on Sun, 24 April 2022, 21:49:00
The Mr. Suit's PCB is in-stock on Qwertykeys.com right now, although it only fits 7u spacebar with F13 Layout...

I wonder if its compatible with Frog TKL?

Mr Suit PCB is not compatible with the Frog because it uses a daughterboard. There is a preorder for the FreeBird TKL PCB from KFA  (https://keebsforall.com/collections/pcb_plates/products/freebirdtkl-pcb) which has the same compatibility as the H88C. The only problem is since it's F13 WKL, the bottom row will be north facing switches while the rest is south facing.

I see what you mean - its both, WKL and WK, but if you want to do WKL, you would have bottom row north facing.
Unless you re-solder sockets, which can be tricky.

But as far as I understand, some switches will have interference when north facing, right?
Not all switches?
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: granola bar enthusiast on Thu, 28 April 2022, 08:46:01
switches have interference with cherry profile on R3 or the middle row on a north-facing PCB so theoretically there shouldn't be any issue with these on the bottom row but don't take my word on it.
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: phinix on Thu, 28 April 2022, 09:50:05
Found out that hot swap sockets on bottom row interfer with Frog's case, so its a no-go.
Title: Re: Hotswap F13 PCB
Post by: mljs54 on Sat, 07 May 2022, 12:08:47
You're looking for Jels88 PCB.  I believe they were offered in GB rounds (not by Geon) around the time the Frog first launched.

HS PCB support for the Frog is pretty terrible, IMO.  Geon doesn't really bother (whether intentional or due to shortages) to even keep any of the Xelus (F12) PCBs in-stock.  You're stuck paying aftermarket prices for them (~$100).