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Offline clasicks

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[IC] CKL TKL
« on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:42:27 »
A few folks and I have been lazily talking about getting something together that combines two things we like. The HHKB layout mashed into a TKL design.

I have a lead on someone who may be interested in designing something like this, but I wondered if there was a substantial amount of people interested in it.


Right now, pure pipe dream - just looking for anyone with concrete interest. Please comment with thoughts.

KLE is attached.

Updated with proper proposed bottom row

« Last Edit: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:51:25 by clasicks »
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Offline xondat

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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:44:23 »
CKL TKL is the best name ever, so yeah, sure.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:45:50 »
If this does not happen, there will be consequences.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:54:57 »
literally modern amiga board unusable 0/10
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:13:19 »
Quote from: clasicks on Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:42:27
I have a lead on someone who may be interested in designing something like this
Designing a plate you mean? You can use any TKL PCB and cover the Control keys.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:21:50 »
Quote from: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:13:19
Quote from: clasicks on Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:42:27
I have a lead on someone who may be interested in designing something like this
Designing a plate you mean? You can use any TKL PCB and cover the Control keys.
I'm assuming designing the case with blockers.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:22:25 »
Might be blasphemy, but how about removing the normal escape key?

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Offline clasicks

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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:25:55 »
Quote from: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:13:19
Quote from: clasicks on Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:42:27
I have a lead on someone who may be interested in designing something like this
Designing a plate you mean? You can use any TKL PCB and cover the Control keys.

Not just a plate. but a full case milled with blockers in this layout. Aluminim, CNCed, Annoed - 2 parts. Weight, sure why not.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:28:07 »
Quote from: fouras on Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:22:25
Might be blasphemy, but how about removing the normal escape key?

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When diving into blasphemy might as well explore all options. I like your idea - i think the gap between the f keys are a little large for my taste - that and esc usage is habitual in the top left.

I did not know what to put there hence my L1 on the typical 60% esc
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:31:21 »
The Space Bar is 6u on the HHKB. It is just the 1.5-1-1.5 - 6 - 1.5-1-1-1.5 bottom-row layout that the Realforce keyboards have but without the keys on the sides.
That layout should be supported by several existing keyboards.  For instance, the Phantom PCB supports it with a 6u space bar - it even supports Fouras' layout above.

However, it would be nice to have an updated Phantom design with the controller on the PCB (which would increase compatibility with third-party cases) and support for PCB-mounted switches.
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Offline clasicks

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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:34:12 »
Quote from: Findecanor on Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:31:21
The Space Bar is 6u on the HHKB. It is just the 1.5-1-1.5 - 6 - 1.5-1-1-1.5 bottom-row layout that the Realforce keyboards have but without the keys on the sides.
That layout should be supported by several existing keyboards.  For instance, it and layouts with one continuous line of function keys are supported by the Phantom PCB.

Yes many PCB's support this layout. Would make it easy to bring costs down if its only a case+plate design+manu.

I tend to stick with 7u for mx hhkb's - easier for GMK compability.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:42:14 »
Ah. Now I see that you have 1.25u Alt keys, instead of the regular 1.5u keys that otherwise go with 7u space.

The 6u-space bar layout is nicer if you are used to a 6.25u space layout and use the right Alt key as it then is in the same space on both. In European layouts the right Alt is Alt Graph - with a different meaning, used for accessing third and fourth layers of symbols.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:45:30 »
oh damn good catch, they are supposed to be 1-1.5-7-1.5-1 - will update the layout
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:42:03 »
I love hhkb layout, but this looks kinda goofy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 15:48:46 »
Gonna close this up tonight over lack of interest, was worth a shot!

Cheers!
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:22:42 »
might be thinking of being interested sometime in the near future
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:32:36 »
hhkb layout is fine

this is weird af tho
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:40:54 »
RIP. Yeah i had meant to close this
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:52:48 »
Quote from: clasicks on Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:40:54
RIP. Yeah i had meant to close this

lock button is on the bottom left
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:59:20 »
Quote from: clasicks on Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:40:54
RIP. Yeah i had meant to close this
close ur mam
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 16:00:56 »
Do not close this, this is the best layout ever made.
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 16:56:29 »
Quote from: DudeSnail on Tue, 24 October 2017, 16:00:56
Do not close this, this is the best layout ever made.
dont ever give up on your dreams. CKTKL
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Offline clasicks

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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 16:57:08 »
CKL TKL PLZ
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:14:48 »
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:16:54 »
FIRE TKL WHEN NO MORE OF THIS
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Re: [IC] CKL TKL
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:27:32 »
I like it


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