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Hey guys, we're live! All of the store links should be up by the end of the day :)
Originally not my colors, but zastava would be nice for the collection ... argh ... :thumb:
Has anyone had experience with Kono before? I'm a bit hesitant to make a purchase with them. GMK Shark Bait went live the first of the month yet it is still not available on Kono yet. I'm curious if the same issue will apply to GMK Yugo as well. If there is issues with just going live for ordering then I am a bit nervous about whether or not their fulfillment will be a long process.
GMK Yugo is live on DailyClack! (https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-yugo)
The deskmat is now also available for purchase on zFrontier.
Is Daily Clack closing the keycap GB early? Their website says "GB End - December 1."
Yes, unfortunately those are the numbers, we didn't expect it to be THIS low - but there's still hope.
I/we speculate that a reason could be the long GB Date, where people have a thought in their back of their heads like 'It's running well into December, I can just grab it later' - which is likely hurting sales. There's still a lot of GB time left, still more than a month which a normal GB runs for - and we all know how crucial the last week can be (just look at firefly - from looking dead in the water to a huge spike meaning it made it). Worth noting is that it's a record breaking month for amount of GMK sets being ran, and past few months have had heavy hitters which have left multiple peoples wallets empty.
The numbers are low now despite huge interest during the IC, so I don't think it's at risk yet. I believe! :thumb:
Thank you for the 7 brave souls who have supported it already, and for everyone else - see you soon! <3
Yes, unfortunately those are the numbers, we didn't expect it to be THIS low - but there's still hope.
I/we speculate that a reason could be the long GB Date, where people have a thought in their back of their heads like 'It's running well into December, I can just grab it later' - which is likely hurting sales. There's still a lot of GB time left, still more than a month which a normal GB runs for - and we all know how crucial the last week can be (just look at firefly - from looking dead in the water to a huge spike meaning it made it). Worth noting is that it's a record breaking month for amount of GMK sets being ran, and past few months have had heavy hitters which have left multiple peoples wallets empty.
The numbers are low now despite huge interest during the IC, so I don't think it's at risk yet. I believe! :thumb:
Thank you for the 7 brave souls who have supported it already, and for everyone else - see you soon! <3
No, personally I feel like you either have to get base space and zastava to perfectly reflect the theme, which will cost ~USD220, or you buy a base with forever regret. So I have to decide not to buy. Also I have OCD for accent spacebar. This would be an insta buy for me if you insert two red spacebars into the base, though I know this is not happening to most sets. Anyways, nice set and gl with gb!
So, deskpads are by far the most popular option, lol.
Anyway, gonna pull the trigger this week for all options except numpad and artisan.
Really hoping this makes it; its a great kit. Perhaps the release of so many keycaps in November mean peeps will bite the bullet late, in December.
Picked up the base, capitalism, and cabrio kits. Love everything about this set. Looking forward to seeing this one take off.
Any ideas on how many kits have been sold? Really hope this gets made
Think this will look good on a burgundy/dark red 65%?
Would you consider running something like GMK WoB Yugo add-on in case this GB doesn't go through or are you more inclined to redesigning the set and selling it at another point in time?
We got about two weeks to make this happen. If you're interested, consider buying asap as a cancelation, like we've been seeing other sets do, isn't outside the realm of possibilities.
Help us put us in a position where buying it out is an option, as I feel like there's no way we're making moq.
December is fresh and there's still time, but we're crawling here.
Thank you to everyone who already supported us, or is planning on supporting us! ❤️
Can the Shift icons be center aligned please?
I mean.. the caps aren't made yet. Is that a preference thing or simply render alignment someone overlooked?
Yeah, those numbers are pretty sad, much worse sets have made it. It seems like December is a bad month for keysets imoOlivia++ live in December. Over 1500 kits sold.
Yeah, those numbers are pretty sad, much worse sets have made it. It seems like December is a bad month for keysets imoOlivia++ live in December. Over 1500 kits sold.
So yeah probably not the month, although it will certainly factor in one way or another. I think, based on nothing but a hunch, that the colorway is one reason and the unique kits is the second. Having to pay extra for correct ansi legends is perhaps another reason. Obviously have no way to prove anything, but to me it feels like iso haters always say “if iso is so important to you then speak with your wallet and buy iso kits”, and now ansi buyers also speak with their wallets and don’t buy the set at all.
Again, just a feeling, based on nothing.
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There are a lot of great GBs happening this month in general. It makes buying everything we might want super difficult since everything is running at the same time. If this was offered at a later date, I definitely would've bought into it. Good luck with the GB!Yeah, those numbers are pretty sad, much worse sets have made it. It seems like December is a bad month for keysets imoOlivia++ live in December. Over 1500 kits sold.
So yeah probably not the month, although it will certainly factor in one way or another. I think, based on nothing but a hunch, that the colorway is one reason and the unique kits is the second. Having to pay extra for correct ansi legends is perhaps another reason. Obviously have no way to prove anything, but to me it feels like iso haters always say “if iso is so important to you then speak with your wallet and buy iso kits”, and now ansi buyers also speak with their wallets and don’t buy the set at all.
Again, just a feeling, based on nothing.
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A lot of nice kits are getting creamed this month. I think it definitely has something to do with the holidays. There’s only so many $200-$300 keycap purchases a person can make in a short period of time without getting in financial and/or relationship trouble.
I love this set. Hopefully you’ll run it again if it fails or doesn’t get bought out by the retailers?
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They are running like 4 GMK GBs at the exact same time and none of them are going to make MOQ.
Just got base and capitalism, please god Kono buy this set to moq.
and Spacebars. Dig deep people, this is an easy resell later.
Yeah, those numbers are pretty sad, much worse sets have made it. It seems like December is a bad month for keysets imoOlivia++ live in December. Over 1500 kits sold.
So yeah probably not the month, although it will certainly factor in one way or another. I think, based on nothing but a hunch, that the colorway is one reason and the unique kits is the second. Having to pay extra for correct ansi legends is perhaps another reason. Obviously have no way to prove anything, but to me it feels like iso haters always say “if iso is so important to you then speak with your wallet and buy iso kits”, and now ansi buyers also speak with their wallets and don’t buy the set at all.
Again, just a feeling, based on nothing.
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PBT isn't bad, but epbt is kinda crap.
PBT isn't bad, but epbt is kinda crap.
It’s OT, but I beg to differ. My only ePBT set is Extended 2048 and I was really surprised by the quality which is absolutely on par with GMK (not trying to exaggerate; couldn't find anything wrong with my set). Razor sharp legends and a silky smooth texture that will not shine up within a month.
Don't get me wrong, I love my GMK sets, but at this point I would really like another ePBT one instead.
I guess I'll phrase it differently. ePBT's dyesub is good (ePBT slate is at least), but their blanks are the worst available in the Cherry profile (same small keys and scoop+bar crap as the worst sets on KBDfans). CRP is nice, but the color is odd and they're bad at communicating. I really hope Mito's Mythos of Cherry dyesubs is good and available in more colors.PBT isn't bad, but epbt is kinda crap.
It’s OT, but I beg to differ. My only ePBT set is Extended 2048 and I was really surprised by the quality which is absolutely on par with GMK (not trying to exaggerate; couldn't find anything wrong with my set). Razor sharp legends and a silky smooth texture that will not shine up within a month.
Don't get me wrong, I love my GMK sets, but at this point I would really like another ePBT one instead.
I guess I'll phrase it differently. ePBT's dyesub is good (ePBT slate is at least), but their blanks are the worst available in the Cherry profile (same small keys and scoop+bar crap as the worst sets on KBDfans).
I guess I'll phrase it differently. ePBT's dyesub is good (ePBT slate is at least), but their blanks are the worst available in the Cherry profile (same small keys and scoop+bar crap as the worst sets on KBDfans).
You mean the shape of their version of the Cherry profile? I can't say I had any qualms with it, haven't even noticed any difference (after having used GMK sets for months). Maybe I didn't pay enough attention, or my expectations differ to yours :)
And I actually really enjoyed the scoop+bar homing keys - but I understand that's a matter of preference :)
@emir a few posters have been really critical, may be for a good reasons, of kono but i'd love to see the numbers breakdown by regions and see if the eu number are way higher - as they should anyway be - than the rest of the world
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I hope all of the kits get made! I bought one of each. Would buy more if I could right now. Such a great, unique set!
Extension!I could probably get some spare funds together if this does get extended. I really like the cryllic alphas.
No kit made it even halfway to MoQ besides the capitalism kit.
We've talked it out a bit, and we have decided to extend it the rest of the year for starters.MoreFinal sales day numbers are in and reported to Dvorcol.
No kit made it even halfway to MoQ besides the capitalism kit.
As for what we will do, that's up in the air. We'll talk it out amongst ourselves and see what we can come up with.
Even though as it stands it's a big F, we would still like to thank everyone who believes in it.
It might not be over, so if you're still interested in Yugo, wait a little while before asking for a refund. If we decide to cancel it altogether, you'll be refunded without having to ask for it, so please wait.
As for deskmats and artisans, I don't know how much interest there is in them if there's no set to go along with them. We will talk it out today and let you know ASAP.
Bummer that this couldn't make it, but this speaks volumesQuoteNo kit made it even halfway to MoQ besides the capitalism kit.
Yes I have come across many people frustrated over them thinking that there's no ansi support in the base, some even thought that there's no ansi enter. This isn't true, there is ansi support - but for full us ansi, you'll need the capitalism kit.
Please remember that this set was meant to be used with Yugoslavian legends, and as such we separated us ansi and iso UK to a different kit. Of course we are aware that the set would've sold multitudes better with ansi us in the base right off the bat, but it goes against the whole concept and idea of the set.
This.Yes I have come across many people frustrated over them thinking that there's no ansi support in the base, some even thought that there's no ansi enter. This isn't true, there is ansi support - but for full us ansi, you'll need the capitalism kit.
Please remember that this set was meant to be used with Yugoslavian legends, and as such we separated us ansi and iso UK to a different kit. Of course we are aware that the set would've sold multitudes better with ansi us in the base right off the bat, but it goes against the whole concept and idea of the set.
The concept of the proposal is clear and sound. But, this GB confirms, one more time, that marketing is not about philosophy; but, about masses' wishes and wants. Hope the set makes it.
Yes I have come across many people frustrated over them thinking that there's no ansi support in the base, some even thought that there's no ansi enter. This isn't true, there is ansi support - but for full us ansi, you'll need the capitalism kit.
Please remember that this set was meant to be used with Yugoslavian legends, and as such we separated us ansi and iso UK to a different kit. Of course we are aware that the set would've sold multitudes better with ansi us in the base right off the bat, but it goes against the whole concept and idea of the set.
The concept of the proposal is clear and sound. But, this GB confirms, one more time, that marketing is not about philosophy; but, about masses' wishes and wants. Hope the set makes it.
We are aware, and from the start we knew that certain decisions we made would alienate a majority of the crowd simply due to how we did the kits. However, aiming to make it was always the goal; with the integrity of Yugo intact.:thumb:
Maybe we were wrong, maybe it'll pull through - but I personally don't regret any decisions made. If it does get made, it'll serve as a milestone in GMK set progression, and if it fails it goes to show that we as a community aren't ready for these types of things yet.
It'll be interesting regardless of how it turns out! :)
Yes I have come across many people frustrated over them thinking that there's no ansi support in the base, some even thought that there's no ansi enter. This isn't true, there is ansi support - but for full us ansi, you'll need the capitalism kit.
Please remember that this set was meant to be used with Yugoslavian legends, and as such we separated us ansi and iso UK to a different kit. Of course we are aware that the set would've sold multitudes better with ansi us in the base right off the bat, but it goes against the whole concept and idea of the set.
The concept of the proposal is clear and sound. But, this GB confirms, one more time, that marketing is not about philosophy; but, about masses' wishes and wants. Hope the set makes it.
We are aware, and from the start we knew that certain decisions we made would alienate a majority of the crowd simply due to how we did the kits. However, aiming to make it was always the goal; with the integrity of Yugo intact.
Maybe we were wrong, maybe it'll pull through - but I personally don't regret any decisions made. If it does get made, it'll serve as a milestone in GMK set progression, and if it fails it goes to show that we as a community aren't ready for these types of things yet.
It'll be interesting regardless of how it turns out! :)
We are aware, and from the start we knew that certain decisions we made would alienate a majority of the crowd simply due to how we did the kits. However, aiming to make it was always the goal; with the integrity of Yugo intact.:thumb:
Maybe we were wrong, maybe it'll pull through - but I personally don't regret any decisions made. If it does get made, it'll serve as a milestone in GMK set progression, and if it fails it goes to show that we as a community aren't ready for these types of things yet.
It'll be interesting regardless of how it turns out! :)
I don't think this is struggling due to the design decisions, though, and I think we ARE ready for this. This set has A LOT of community support and love!
(Yes, I'm shilling a bit cause I want my YUGO!)
I think the vendor, Kono, either hasn't been as invested in getting the word out, or they're just running too many GMK sets against each other, or both. Also running in December was risky.
And then there's Olivia which is just kicking ass right now and is a must buy for many who had to make tough decisions this month.
You basically opened a really cool sandwich shop and 2 weeks later McDonald's opened across the street. :'(
Yes I have come across many people frustrated over them thinking that there's no ansi support in the base, some even thought that there's no ansi enter. This isn't true, there is ansi support - but for full us ansi, you'll need the capitalism kit.
The elephant in the room that everyone refuses to achknowldge is that, the ISO community's buying power is still not there.
Look at Olivia++, mentioned multiple times here as one of the reasons Yugo is struggling. Even for a mega-popular set with (currently) over 2000 base kit, the ISO kit is still struggling to hit MOQ 100. Remember, without that ISO kit, you literally cannot put Olivia++ on your ISO boards.
Vendors will 100% help out, and that kit will be produced. But at some point we have to admit that:
- There are still not enough ISO buyers.
- And/or the often-vocal ISO fans simply don't want to vote with their wallets (if you think this is a form of protest, you're giving the opposite signal).Yes I have come across many people frustrated over them thinking that there's no ansi support in the base, some even thought that there's no ansi enter. This isn't true, there is ansi support - but for full us ansi, you'll need the capitalism kit.
- You (as in ISO users): I won't buy this set's ISO kit bc its keys don't have correct FR/DE/etc legends.
- Also you: Just ignore the incorrect ANSI legends lmao. Why is physical support not enough for you?
When I got into this hobby almost 6 years ago I switched to ANSI because back then absolutely nothing was ISO. I am still using ANSI and won't switch back. I assume a good chunk of European people did the same thing.
What's the number now?
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How many spacebars are we short? That's one that really needs to make it.
How many "Zastava" sets would need to be purchased to reach MOQ at this point? Haven't seen a numbers update since Dec 19. Would be a shame not to produce that. Also, has Kono piped up saying they're buying any of these to MOQ?
When will we have the updated numbers? Especially for zastava and the other sets that aren't going to make it. Also, for kits that doesn't work out, when will we be receiving the refund?
Zastava and numpad confirmed dead, unless someone wants to buy like 40 zastava kits. Sad, it added a lot of character to the set imo. :/ with that out of the way though, we can move forwards.
I will follow Zastava up this coming week and let you know ASAP, but it's grim.
Consider numpad kit dead.
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Once this set hits reddit and instagram, I'm sure that it will become more popular. If that happens, would it be possible for Zastava as a stand alone kit to make a come back?
Once this set hits reddit and instagram, I'm sure that it will become more popular. If that happens, would it be possible for Zastava as a stand alone kit to make a come back?
That will be difficult, as only ~150 people will own the set and have a use for it and thus be the only ones to want to buy it. This buy, it was open to anyone to grab the base and zastava, so even further reducing the number of potential buyers will most likely result in a failed GB.
any update? will ship until march?
Can you even read the OP? It's right there:QuoteShipping is expected to start in May 2020.
have the first round of colours been received yet? sorry I know there is massive delays with everything.
Really sad Zastava didn't make it. Such a unique kit.
Also, are there any pictures of the received color samples you guys can post or an update?
Thanks!
Looks good, I'm not sure but the yellow looks a bit light as compared to the car but then again I can't see it in real life.
Hi, the colour sampling took long because GMK shipped them to me just last month (first half of May, not sure what took them so long), and I distributed the samples among the team members, and my post office took their sweet time. It is almost sorted though, we are waiting for the last person to receive them.
We get why there are delays, in fact I'm personally fine with the delay. We just wanted to see if you could give us an estimate for when you think this will be produced?
how´s the colour sampling going? i´m a litte confused why you guy´s decided to go with such a light colour when every foto you posted earlier in the thread looks way more yellow.
I'm sure that they will match it better! Just some update on timeline would be great, if the prolonged colour matching means that this will go to GMK queue much later or it's still similar to the other GB's which finished around the same time.
This is why we have decided to go to R2 of color matching for just the yellow/cream color.
tl;dr: Red samples approved. Yellow/cream going to R2, ETA: 4 weeks. After that, production. Currently difficult to predict when production will complete. Read above for details :)
Will there be extras? I'm really bummed I missed this.
tl;dr: Red samples approved. Yellow/cream going to R2, ETA: 4 weeks. After that, production. Currently difficult to predict when production will complete. Read above for details :)
Konstantin, did GMK send you the new samples yet?
Konstantin, did GMK send you the new samples yet?
Hi Larry, we are waiting on an update from GMK. We'll let you know once we have something.
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Quick update: The new color samples are on their way to us.
Thanks for the great news!
Do you have a timeline for when you might make your decision on how to proceed?
I expect my samples to be delivered on Monday, at which point everyone will have received their samples. So expect some news next week.Thanks for the quick response, Konstantin. We'll stay tuned in for more info!
Samples look great by themselves, but using a colour target you printed out as any point of reference to colours is questionable at best and should be removed.
Samples look great by themselves, but using a colour target you printed out as any point of reference to colours is questionable at best and should be removed.
Those are RAL chips.
has any more news informations been heard from the gmk ?We're still waiting on an official estimate from them. We'll let you know as soon as we have it. Most of the communication with GMK since the last update has been about the banderole design and a few other miscellaneous details, still nothing regarding the production timeline. Soon, I hope...
Is there any hope for production to start in 2020? Or we can seat back and relax till 2021?It's difficult to say at this point. We should have a better idea of what to expect soon.
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Salvun did a phenomenal job recreating the iconic Yugo logo in keycap form.
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Salvun did a phenomenal job recreating the iconic Yugo logo in keycap form.
Wow, that looks great indeed!
Konstantin, have you heard any updates from GMK on the set by any chance?
any work back from gmk about estimates?
any work back from gmk about estimates?
I was wondering about the same. It's been 3 months since it was announced that the color matching was approved and that the kit should go into the production.
Maybe one of the authors of this set could shed some light on the status of this project?
still no news from GMK...Do they not reply to emails?
Generally we don't share updates with everyone, we just share them with the vendors and let them share the information with the buyers just fyi.
Still, seeing as how it seems and update is in order I'll check up on this today and see if we can't get some word to the vendor regarding the current status.
GMK is still in lockdown and has definitely slowed things down a good bit in the office but I will see what I can do here for everyone :thumb:
Still nothing T_T It's been about 20 days since we last heard from them. We're still waiting on that production estimate.
Who exactly did you try to reach out for design? I hope it wasn't Emir, as he parted ways with Yugo team long ago.Don't message me about Yugo, I no longer want to involve myself with it.
Set is being made, and I trust konstantin(constexpr) and/or spakecdk will do a good job color matching so there's no reason for anyone to worry. :)
Set is supposed to ship in May to vendors is last update. Will you you guys know if there is any more delay. Thank you all for being patient in this bumpy ride.Excellent news! <3
We've received confirmation from several vendors that GMK has shipped out the sets to them. Depending on region, transit is expected to take from one to six weeks. Upon receiving the sets, vendors will begin sorting and shipping them out to customers (together with deskmats and Salvun artisans).
With that said, I must ask everyone to stay patient for a little while longer, and to kindly refrain from opening premature support tickets asking for tracking etc. Rest assured, your vendor will put out a notice once the sets are ready to ship from them to you. :)
We're almost there!
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Yu all ready for this?
Not mykeeb only, every vendor needs to make new deskamts since there were some accident with deskamts that were supposed to be shipper to all vendors. It's nothing mayor and we apologise for another delay but they will be ready in few weeks. Sorry again to you all and be a little more patient.
Got mine today. Big thanks to the creators of this set - I could not be happier with how it turned out. I really hope that you will (eventually) run R2 so that many of us can get Zastava set (it's a must have).Agreed, I mean I spent money on most of the kit, should've just gotten the special Cyrillic kit.
This is what my board looks like with GMK Yugo:
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Vendors bought lots of kits to reach moq, so you bet extras will be there
Someone like audiosl4ve wouldn't know, he was too busy talking **** about me in various discords during GB while I was ensuring this set happened by myself. :thumb:
Percentage wise of total there are quite a few extras, in actual numbers though, not that many.
Exact total extras numbers:
Base (Yugo 45) 110
Numpad (Yugo 55) 18
Capitalism 55
Cyrillics (Zastava) 15
Spacebars (Cabrio) 38
Artisan 0
Deskmat 10
The base kits are quite evenly spread across all vendors.
MyKeyboard and DailyClack both ordered 20
zFrontier 25
Kono 35
Good luck everyone! :D
wait.. was zastava kit (cyrillics) produced in the end?Someone like audiosl4ve wouldn't know, he was too busy talking **** about me in various discords during GB while I was ensuring this set happened by myself. :thumb:
Percentage wise of total there are quite a few extras, in actual numbers though, not that many.
Exact total extras numbers:
Base (Yugo 45) 110
Numpad (Yugo 55) 18
Capitalism 55
Cyrillics (Zastava) 15
Spacebars (Cabrio) 38
Artisan 0
Deskmat 10
The base kits are quite evenly spread across all vendors.
MyKeyboard and DailyClack both ordered 20
zFrontier 25
Kono 35
Good luck everyone! :D
In case you guys haven't caught this awesome photo of Yugo on an Exent:
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Lucky you!
Meanwhile, MKB.eu very diligently aren't providing any estimate for that "Urgently ordered" deskmats.
Anybody else canceled his order from mykeyboard.eu and never got his money back?? these guys arent even replying to my emails for month :(Have you tried DMing David or Yuliia on Discord?
Anybody else canceled his order from mykeyboard.eu and never got his money back?? these guys arent even replying to my emails for month :(Have you tried DMing David or Yuliia on Discord?
I believe there are a lot of people who would love to get this set.
Hopefully, the GB owners/starters will consider running r2 or at least Zastava kit as a separate GB.
I believe there are a lot of people who would love to get this set.
Hopefully, the GB owners/starters will consider running r2 or at least Zastava kit as a separate GB.
I believe there are a lot of people who would love to get this set.
Hopefully, the GB owners/starters will consider running r2 or at least Zastava kit as a separate GB.
R2 maybe ? :D
gmk yugo r2 please!