[GB] R6 Zealios / Zealencios / Transparent Screw-in Stabs V2 (Complete)

[BlackInk]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

I want the uprade parts too, ill send you an email

So if we ordered R1 Zeal stabs, we can get some extra plastic bits shipped in our GB orders? Where should I note that?
If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

Just send me a PM with your order # referencing the older V1, and I'll include the upgrade parts in your R6 GB.

[Zeal]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios since the beginning come lightly lubed on the tactile legs. If you want to further enhance the smoothness, you'll have to manually lube the stem & bottom housing.

[JDragon]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

So if we ordered R1 Zeal stabs, we can get some extra plastic bits shipped in our GB orders? Where should I note that?
If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

Just send me a PM with your order # referencing the older V1, and I'll include the upgrade parts in your R6 GB.

Thanks, sending PM now

[Latin00032]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios since the beginning come lightly lubed on the tactile legs. If you want to further enhance the smoothness, you'll have to manually lube the stem & bottom housing.

Are the stabs prelubed?

[Zeal]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios since the beginning come lightly lubed on the tactile legs. If you want to further enhance the smoothness, you'll have to manually lube the stem & bottom housing.

Are the stabs prelubed?

No..not possible unless you want an oily mess when assembling.

[TelFiRE]

oily mess

 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[TelFiRE]

Do you think it is likely there will ever be Zealios with the "light pipe" that Input Club has added to the Kailhs and their new Halo switches that come with the Type K?

[Zeal]

Zealios are already fully transparent so it doesn't really need a "light pipe" to guide light through the bottom housing.

Received 25/30 boxes today. Zealios have all arrived. Remaining 5 boxes have the Zealencios/V2 stabilizers.

GB orders will start shipping tonight.

[PotatoTM]

Excited!

[Dreamre]

Zealios are already fully transparent so it doesn't really need a "light pipe" to guide light through the bottom housing.

Received 25/30 boxes today. Zealios have all arrived. Remaining 5 boxes have the Zealencios/V2 stabilizers.

GB orders will start shipping tonight.

Wow. Thanks Henry! That was so quick!

[Concerned_apathy]

Dam. is it too late to join? Was thinking of grabbing some for my lightsaver.

[TelFiRE]

Dam. is it too late to join? Was thinking of grabbing some for my lightsaver.

https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio

You can still get it, but the pricing has gone up to pre-order pricing.

[rpeterclark]

Wow, shipping notification received! Thanks Zeal!

[iNViSiBiLiTi]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios are factory lubed on the stems but it should never replace hand lubing.  Lubing the rails affects the sound of the switch and in my experience makes them smoother when pressing keys off-center. 

[TheNamesTy45]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

[PotatoTM]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

The current ETA is mid-june right? I'm in no real rush so I haven't been following any updates :\

[mypainishurt]

Ahh shucks. I missed out on the GB. What was the pricing on each switch during the GB?

[PotatoTM]

Ahh shucks. I missed out on the GB. What was the pricing on each switch during the GB?

$0.75 per switch, they are currently in pre-order prices which is $0.85 per switch compared to the usual $1.00 per switch (All in USD)

[Zeal]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

The current ETA is mid-june right? I'm in no real rush so I haven't been following any updates :\

Currently mid-June-ish. I'm receiving a few sample boards today to make sure everything is good to go. When given the OK, the fab will start with the assembly. Bare PCBs have already been remade.

[lecorsair]

I find it a bit problematic to phrase this correctly, so please bear with with me.

If I'm looking for the most "tactile/crisp" feedback (NOT spring resistance), is the 62g the way to go of all the variants? I have the 67g and 78g switches and what I find is that while the 67g has a noticeable bump, the heavier springs in the 78g seems to mask/reduce the feel of the expected bump. Would going with the lightest variant be what I'm looking for? Thanks for any insights.

[PotatoTM]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

The current ETA is mid-june right? I'm in no real rush so I haven't been following any updates :\

Currently mid-June-ish. I'm receiving a few sample boards today to make sure everything is good to go. When given the OK, the fab will start with the assembly. Bare PCBs have already been remade.

Good news! Il take quality over speed anytime.

[Malenky]

I find it a bit problematic to phrase this correctly, so please bear with with me.

If I'm looking for the most "tactile/crisp" feedback (NOT spring resistance), is the 62g the way to go of all the variants? I have the 67g and 78g switches and what I find is that while the 67g has a noticeable bump, the heavier springs in the 78g seems to mask/reduce the feel of the expected bump. Would going with the lightest variant be what I'm looking for? Thanks for any insights.

A lot of people say that the 67g do feel the most tactile and crisp. In my experience from trying 62/65/67, the 67g felt the most tactile to me. There are a lot of other things that affect apparent tactility though, for example, an aluminium plate will feel more tactile than a steel plate, as it will flex a *tiny* amount as the tactile bump creates resistance, accentuating the bump.

[lecorsair]

I find it a bit problematic to phrase this correctly, so please bear with with me.

If I'm looking for the most "tactile/crisp" feedback (NOT spring resistance), is the 62g the way to go of all the variants? I have the 67g and 78g switches and what I find is that while the 67g has a noticeable bump, the heavier springs in the 78g seems to mask/reduce the feel of the expected bump. Would going with the lightest variant be what I'm looking for? Thanks for any insights.

A lot of people say that the 67g do feel the most tactile and crisp. In my experience from trying 62/65/67, the 67g felt the most tactile to me. There are a lot of other things that affect apparent tactility though, for example, an aluminium plate will feel more tactile than a steel plate, as it will flex a *tiny* amount as the tactile bump creates resistance, accentuating the bump.

Thank you for the quick feedback. Mind if I ask what type of keycaps you are using yours with?

[Cocopah]

Nice, Zealencios and v2 stabs must have came in early.

[Zeal]

GB complete, finished shipping out everyone's order. Only Zeal60 orders are outstanding.

[PotatoTM]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

[smittysteve]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

Howdy. I've made a few sets of Zealiostotles now and I don't think that's necessary. The reason you don't want to lube the sliders is because of the funky 'click' mechanism on the Aristotle stems. Lube is likely to muck that up and cost you some click. But whatever lube is left on the Zealio housing is just fine. Zealiostotles are phenomenal, by the way... such a tasty crisp clicky!! Good luck. PM me if you have any other questions or anything. 

[Zeal]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

It's never a good idea to wash switches in water. The tiny bit of lube on the leaf isn't going to affect the zealiostotles. Just mod the stems into the housings and you're set.

[boo]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

I do recommend cleaning the Aristotle stems using 99% alcohol. I've noticed mine had some black oil on the legs and a simple wipe was all it needed.


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[PotatoTM]

It's never a good idea to wash switches in water. The tiny bit of lube on the leaf isn't going to affect the zealiostotles. Just mod the stems into the housings and you're set.

I do recommend cleaning the Aristotle stems using 99% alcohol. I've noticed mine had some black oil on the legs and a simple wipe was all it needed.

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Howdy. I've made a few sets of Zealiostotles now and I don't think that's necessary. The reason you don't want to lube the sliders is because of the funky 'click' mechanism on the Aristotle stems. Lube is likely to muck that up and cost you some click. But whatever lube is left on the Zealio housing is just fine. Zealiostotles are phenomenal, by the way... such a tasty crisp clicky!! Good luck. PM me if you have any other questions or anything. 

Alright, thanks for the help guys 

[xantiema]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

[Dreamre]

Man, this was the fastest GB. Thanks Zeal! The new stabs are awesome!

[Zeal]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

[ArchDill]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

Yuuuuuuuuuus!

Just got some vintage blacks.. Guess they will be put on the back burner. What color will the stem be? Clear or Purple?

[PotatoTM]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

Yuuuuuuuuuus!

Just got some vintage blacks.. Guess they will be put on the back burner. What color will the stem be? Clear or Purple?

I'm thinking pink! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83468.0)

[IAmPyhrra]

Wow Zeal making linears? Got my interest

[xantiema]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

Yuuuuuuuuuus!

Just got some vintage blacks.. Guess they will be put on the back burner. What color will the stem be? Clear or Purple?

I'm thinking pink! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83468.0)

That'd be perfect x)

[FoC_Tow]

Pink Stems! <3<3<3

Pls make it happen Zeal <3

[DreLLin]

any news about orders which included a zeal 60 pcb? am eagerly awaiting my switches 

[Zeal]

Still waiting for the manufacturer to provide us with a date as to when the PCBs will be ready. The moment I receive news, I'll be posting in the gb thread.

[Zeal]

I have received an update from our manufacturer regarding the Zeal60 replacement boards. I should be receiving them by the end of the week. Will be flashing then / QCing over the weekend and wrap up asap. Thanks all for your patience.

[DreLLin]

I have received an update from our manufacturer regarding the Zeal60 replacement boards. I should be receiving them by the end of the week. Will be flashing then / QCing over the weekend and wrap up asap. Thanks all for your patience.

Fantastic news, thanks for the update. 

[PotatoTM]

I have received an update from our manufacturer regarding the Zeal60 replacement boards. I should be receiving them by the end of the week. Will be flashing then / QCing over the weekend and wrap up asap. Thanks all for your patience.

Great! Thanks for the update.