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phinix:
I was wondering - what do longer springs add to teh actual feel of the switch?
If longer, do they make switch go back up faster? Stronger bounce back?
Not looking at spring weight, just length.
I like linear Oil Kings, but need to swap springs as stock ones are too light for me, so always order 85g TX springs XL (18mm).
I was wondering, is length make them more responsive, bounce back faster so I feel like switches are snappier?
Or is is still just weight and lenght does not make any impact on that? If not, what does it do then?
Rhienfo:
from my experience longer springs do have a more snappier bounce back cause the upstroke returns stronger yeah, it also has more weight at the top of the spring so it takes more force to actuate (that's why a lot of people lower spring weight when they go to a higher length)
I tend to not like those things and prefer something more neutral like 15mm so Medium tx but I can understand why someone would like that.
phinix:
--- Quote from: Rhienfo on Wed, 16 October 2024, 01:18:59 ---from my experience longer springs do have a more snappier bounce back cause the upstroke returns stronger yeah, it also has more weight at the top of the spring so it takes more force to actuate (that's why a lot of people lower spring weight when they go to a higher length)
I tend to not like those things and prefer something more neutral like 15mm so Medium tx but I can understand why someone would like that.
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Yeah, cool, so you think same that length and weight will have affect on it then.
Weight will have main influence on the force needed to press and length to actual key return plus some extra force as well.
I just like snappy and heavy keys, so picked 85g XL long (18mm). I do not touch type with all fingers, that is why 85g is fine for me :)
Otherwise, my pinkies would break on that 18mm 85mm spring! :D
Leslieann:
All things being equal, a longer spring allows a flatter curve, a shorter spring will create a steeper curve.
A long spring starts harder making it feel stiffer (and snap back better) than it is for the bottom out rating which is why you then often have to go down in spring weight to make the start feel the same as it was with a shorter spring.
phinix:
--- Quote from: Leslieann on Mon, 21 October 2024, 07:04:39 ---All things being equal, a longer spring allows a flatter curve, a shorter spring will create a steeper curve.
A long spring starts harder making it feel stiffer (and snap back better) than it is for the bottom out rating which is why you then often have to go down in spring weight to make the start feel the same as it was with a shorter spring.
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Thanks, yeah, so sounds like 18mm 85g is for me then :D
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