[GB] GMK Phantom [RAMA ARTISAN KEY]

[Darknight00z]

Does anyone know when does the Rama key GB/preorder ends?

[SteffeMK]

Does anyone know when does the Rama key GB/preorder ends?

November 8th

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[wixxzblu]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

[KaosJ]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

If you are talking about purple, purple is a weird color, never hope to have the "render" color when purple is included in a GB. 

[newbatthis]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

that yellow is F L A S H Y  )

[wixxzblu]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

[KaosJ]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

[wixxzblu]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

[KaosJ]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Regarding purple: it doesn't even exists a pantone like the original render, this is most likely the darker purple. Take the online pantone if you don't have the physical one and take a look. 
If you go lighter there are pinky purple or too light purple that doesn't match the render as well and are even worse (e.g. the rama light purple render, which is imho bad). Other purple in the pantone are just the blue-ish purple kind. 

Regarding yellow: sure. But different renders showed a different yellow tonality. But this was always supposed to be a "muted yellow" which is what it is on the final product, not a gold yellow, neither a mix of yellow and orange.

Most of the people were happy with the samples and OP went ahead, would you blame him?  Or better wait other 3 weeks for sample and later get something even worse.

On a last note, complain before the set gets into production (e.g. you didn't said a word when he showed the samples), don't complain when the keycaps are actually produced and are exactly the samples that OP showed. 

[wixxzblu]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Regarding purple: it doesn't even exists a pantone like the original render, this is most likely the darker purple. If you go lighter there are pinky purple or too light purple that doesn't match the render as well and are even worse (e.g. the rama light purple render, which is imho bad). Other purple in the pantone are just the blue-ish purple kind. 

Regarding yellow: sure. But many render showed a different yellow. But this was always supposed to be a "muted yellow" which is what it is on the final product, not a gold yellow, neither a mix of yellow and orange.

Most of the people were happy with the samples and OP went ahead, would you blame him?  Or better wait other 3 weeks for sample and later get something even worse

yeah but if you go back and read, there are complaints regarding the yellow and color accuracy to the pantones.
Is it so hard to assume were getting new samples?

Here ill link them again for your convinience

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=202939;image

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=202935;image

[KaosJ]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Regarding purple: it doesn't even exists a pantone like the original render, this is most likely the darker purple. If you go lighter there are pinky purple or too light purple that doesn't match the render as well and are even worse (e.g. the rama light purple render, which is imho bad). Other purple in the pantone are just the blue-ish purple kind. 

Regarding yellow: sure. But many render showed a different yellow. But this was always supposed to be a "muted yellow" which is what it is on the final product, not a gold yellow, neither a mix of yellow and orange.

Most of the people were happy with the samples and OP went ahead, would you blame him?  Or better wait other 3 weeks for sample and later get something even worse

yeah but if you go back and read, there are complaints regarding the yellow and color accuracy to the pantones.
Is it so hard to assume were getting new samples?

Here ill link them again for your convinience

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=202939;image

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=202935;image

Most likely everyone was happy with purple. 
Just some comments on the yellow but none of these was really a complain or a direct ask/disappointment for new sample. 
I totally see a small difference pantone vs cap, but is a very ligth difference to be honest. 

And no, from people response i didn't expected new samples. OP would have said that if he was going to delay for 3 weeks for new samples. 

[newbatthis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/508328682729898014/IMG_20181103_181611.jpg

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94356.0;attach=194238;image

'small difference'

Sure if you like how it turned out great. But lets not kid ourselves here

[wixxzblu]

yeah a lighter purple and darker yellow samples would have been good

[KaosJ]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/508328682729898014/IMG_20181103_181611.jpg

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94356.0;attach=194238;image

'small difference'

Sure if you like how it turned out great. But lets not kid ourselves here

Regarding the "small differences" i'm talking about the yellow, the purple is darker compared to the OG render but the rendered purple doesn't even exists on the Pantone scale (nothing similar to it). 

You just linked a render which lighting was increased once the render was made (clearly) vs a photo with no lights at all where the color is just ****. 
Just wait for better photos and take this render as comparison: https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194906;image  (will still be darker, but please use this as render)


Also, if you liked the sample which OP showed, well that's exactly the same color of the sample in different lights, so this:
(see even there how much is different the purple in different lightings)

[clik_clak]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Maybe if you're going to base a board around a keyset, getting the actual keyset first may be a good idea.

[KaosJ]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Maybe if you're going to base a board around a keyset, getting the actual keyset first may be a good idea.

^This.
If he wanted to do a custom anodization GL matching even with the actual keycap

[wixxzblu]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Maybe if you're going to base a board around a keyset, getting the actual keyset first may be a good idea.

^This.
If he wanted to do a custom anodization GL matching even with the actual keycap

i will be getting the keycaps first, the board is not done yet.

[InvidiousIgnoramus]

Frankly, I'm very pleased with how the purple came out. The yellow is lighter than I expected,  but that's okay with me. It was always going to be very light compared to most yellows used in other sets.

[onefivenine]

I am willing to take anyones gb spot. Shoot me a PM.

[chuckdee]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

If you're not down, and looking to get rid of it, I'm in the market if I don't score one on donut's site.

[edasaur]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

If you're not down, and looking to get rid of it, I'm in the market if I don't score one on donut's site.

Same

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[clik_clak]

no, just no.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194904;image

https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/

Not even sure if you are complaining about the purple or about the yellow

both

Sell it

im just very disappointed at the final results, i thought we were getting new samples, since the first ones didnt match the pantones and i was prepping a custom board with the same pantone color 

Maybe if you're going to base a board around a keyset, getting the actual keyset first may be a good idea.

^This.
If he wanted to do a custom anodization GL matching even with the actual keycap

i will be getting the keycaps first, the board is not done yet.

Then what’s the problem?

[donutcat]

I'll go ahead and say that neither of those pictures is a good representation of what I'm seeing of the set in person. On one of my monitors T0mb3ry's picture is pretty close on the purple in medium-low light, but the accents there appear way more saturated than in "normal" lighting in person. In fairly direct light I find that the purple is very close to the color I see in the renders, but it does vary a lot depending on your lighting situation, which I think is part of the issue since renders usually are done with optimal lighting. Overall I think people are just going to have to see the colors in person to be able to get the best idea of how they look in different situations since these particular colors are hard to get a good feel for from pictures of questionable lighting alone.

[Atredl]

I think as usual people just need to wait until they get the set in hand to make their judgments. Getting in a fit of rage over pictures just seems silly when we know that lighting plays a HUGE role in how dark colors look on camera. Get mad once you have them and stop arguing over lighting conditions.

[OracleKev]

I think as usual people just need to wait until they get the set in hand to make their judgments. Getting in a fit of rage over pictures just seems silly when we know that lighting plays a HUGE role in how dark colors look on camera. Get mad once you have them and stop arguing over lighting conditions.

+1 any color combination that throws camera's white balancing off, don't believe the photos.
Need in person reviews.

[phatty]

Alright, so comparing the renders to real GMK Phantom, and it's pretty close.

The samples match the renders, and the renders do match the end product. I do have to say comparing the purple with the purple, it's a little more saturated in the renders than the end product. However, it's small enough to be expected when transferring from screen to plastic. The colours match the renders, with the closest render to the match the yellow being this one:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194918;image

That being said, looking at the renders you should be expecting a more washed out yellow, with this pic's yellows which are too bright:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/


This is a comparison shot taken via Samsung Phone (expect over saturation) comparing laser, JTK Debut, and Phantom. It's a cloudy day and the pic is taken with auto settings.

I will use a camera tomorrow with proper white balancing.

[nulltorious]

I'm still want to grab one of the extras. @donutcat, When do you expect to list them on your site?

[yap68]

To me, the colours came out looked good enough and I have seen worse though. Won't expect exactly identical to renders as long as I am confortable with the colours

[cldskt]

Alright, so comparing the renders to real GMK Phantom, and it's pretty close.

The samples match the renders, and the renders do match the end product. I do have to say comparing the purple with the purple, it's a little more saturated in the renders than the end product. However, it's small enough to be expected when transferring from screen to plastic. The colours match the renders, with the closest render to the match the yellow being this one:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=95418.0;attach=194918;image

That being said, looking at the renders you should be expecting a more washed out yellow, with this pic's yellows which are too bright:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/44987536004/in/album-72157675239965188/


This is a comparison shot taken via Samsung Phone (expect over saturation) comparing laser, JTK Debut, and Phantom. It's a cloudy day and the pic is taken with auto settings.

I will use a camera tomorrow with proper white balancing.

Thanks for the comparison with Laser that most people are familiar with. Now that I see it, it seems that the colours are close enough to the renders. Honestly the original render colours look kinda 'metallic' and expecting it to look the same with plastic keycaps may be far-fetched.

Curious to see the comparison with a proper camera and white balancing too tomorrow 

[phatty]

Here's an album. There's 3 pictures that vary ever so slightly. Taken with different shutter speeds.

Lighting is daytime, overcast. These pictures should highlight the colours properly to what I see IRL.

Bottom caps are are JTK Debut, top are GMK Laser.

https://imgur.com/a/q78LRwh

[newbatthis]

Here's an album. There's 3 pictures that vary ever so slightly. Taken with different shutter speeds.

Lighting is daytime, overcast. These pictures should highlight the colours properly to what I see IRL.

Bottom caps are are JTK Debut, top are GMK Laser.

https://imgur.com/a/q78LRwh

Wow I take it back. Doesn't look bad at all.

[lee jeong woo]

zfrontier said

Hi,

The Phantom sets are on their way to our facility. We will ship them out as soon as possible. Expecting late November.

[Data]

Here's an album. There's 3 pictures that vary ever so slightly. Taken with different shutter speeds.

Lighting is daytime, overcast. These pictures should highlight the colours properly to what I see IRL.

Bottom caps are are JTK Debut, top are GMK Laser.

https://imgur.com/a/q78LRwh

Well done.

It's such a deep, "plum" purple and it contrasts beautifully with the buttery yellow.  I don't care for the yellow by itself but when you put the two colors together they really shine.

[Neodeus]

US orders still in the process of being shipped out?

[donut_sauce]

Here's an album. There's 3 pictures that vary ever so slightly. Taken with different shutter speeds.

Lighting is daytime, overcast. These pictures should highlight the colours properly to what I see IRL.

Bottom caps are are JTK Debut, top are GMK Laser.

https://imgur.com/a/q78LRwh

These photos look grea, excited to see them in person. Hoping Donutcat got his bubble wrap:)

[Zuology]

I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, and am glad that it's a darker shade of purple rather than the lighter/saturated purple that's already present in a lot of other GMK sets. Pale yellow/straw gold is definitely the shade I was anticipating too.

[donutcat]

US orders still in the process of being shipped out?

Yes, I'm looking to have the second batch out by Friday.

[ItsAllen]

US orders still in the process of being shipped out?

Yes, I'm looking to have the second batch out by Friday.

Holy crap, you said you labed 1000-1100ish, and I'm order number 1500+

[edasaur]

US orders still in the process of being shipped out?

Yes, I'm looking to have the second batch out by Friday.

Holy crap, you said you labed 1000-1100ish, and I'm order number 1500+

Damn.

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[donutcat]

Please note that the order numbers aren't perfectly linear, and I'm up to 1377 today.

[jongmin84]

are you also handling the canadian customers?
if so, when will you send the kit to canada...

[donutcat]

are you also handling the canadian customers?
if so, when will you send the kit to canada...

I'm only handling orders placed through my store, iirc Mechkeys.ca was handling most Canadian orders.

[x86ect]

I'm only handling orders placed through my store, iirc Mechkeys.ca was handling most Canadian orders.

Hi donutcat,

briano has given the following impression. 
Is there a way to clear up the miscommunication, so that the Canuckle-heads can take the appropriate steps to get their sets?

So for Canadians, we should order it from mechkeys correct? Does this extended deadline also apply to this vendor as well? I noticed that on his page it isn't updated, and considering he is apparently stepping out of 'business' for a while in his recent update I am not sure if it will be safe to order from. Should I just order from the US vendor instead like Donut?

yes because canada didnt get as many order as we've hope, everyone who got from canada vendor will be shipped from us vendor

[moonmembrane]

That dark eggplant purple is exactly what I was hoping for 

[Neodeus]

US orders still in the process of being shipped out?

Yes, I'm looking to have the second batch out by Friday.

Thanks for the update. I was just curious because I am going away next week and wanted to know if I should have someone keep an eye out for the package. I did get an email yesterday letting me know that a shipping label has been printed, so I will have someone check for this delivery. Thanks again for the update.

[jongmin84]

Smart.. Thanks

I know who you are...

I'm only handling orders placed through my store, iirc Mechkeys.ca was handling most Canadian orders.

Hi donutcat,

briano has given the following impression. 
Is there a way to clear up the miscommunication, so that the Canuckle-heads can take the appropriate steps to get their sets?

So for Canadians, we should order it from mechkeys correct? Does this extended deadline also apply to this vendor as well? I noticed that on his page it isn't updated, and considering he is apparently stepping out of 'business' for a while in his recent update I am not sure if it will be safe to order from. Should I just order from the US vendor instead like Donut?

yes because canada didnt get as many order as we've hope, everyone who got from canada vendor will be shipped from us vendor

[donutcat]

I'm checking with briano on that now. Our plan for Canada orders didn't actually pan out, so I'm not completely certain how we actually handled them.

[x86ect]

I know who you are...

Hey JongMin!

Yep... I'm excited for this set!  Got a kbd75 that's begging to be upgraded from the current franken-caps.  Did you get the space bars kit?  I got the idea from your Sakura bar when I suggested it to briano. 

[briemens]

Just received my GMK Phantom set and I really like the (eggplant) purple color, but the yellow is a very big let down.
It looks like the yellow keys have been washed too long, bleached or laying in the sun. Nothing of that rich warm yellow/gold color. It's such a pale yellow color it just doesn't look right, very cheap, and definitely not what has been advertised in the original posts and in the stores.
Yes I read the posts about the color samples, but this is such a departure from the original color. You can't change a set this drastically after selling it in my opinion, something went wrong.

I will keep the set for the purple keys and combine it with the accents from GMK samurai, but sad I am :'-( 

[coffeeshopcoder]

Just received my GMK Phantom set and I really like the (eggplant) purple color, but the yellow is a very big let down.
It looks like the yellow keys have been washed too long, bleached or laying in the sun. Nothing of that rich warm yellow/gold color. It's such a pale yellow color it just doesn't look right, very cheap, and definitely not what has been advertised in the original posts and in the stores.
Yes I read the posts about the color samples, but this is such a departure from the original color. You can't change a set this drastically after selling it in my opinion, something went wrong.

I will keep the set for the purple keys and combine it with the accents from GMK samurai, but sad I am :'-(

Color is always a personal preference, but could you post some pictures please ?