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Title: [IC] GMK Arctic - Group Buy Live
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:24:23

Group Buy Page is live (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115871.msg3103652#msg3103652)

Hey,

Doing another rendition of Arctic but in it's original profile and in GMK.

Thank you for your support

Kits as of right now

Base
(https://i.imgur.com/ECVDqIQ.jpg)
Mechs & Co $126

Compact
(https://i.imgur.com/ONIHmhd.jpg)
Mechs & Co $38

Space Bar
(https://i.imgur.com/FQAVKyW.jpg)
Mechs & Co $28

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/cTo8AEG.jpg)
Mechs & Co $53


Renders:
Prophet
(https://i.imgur.com/v6vhnFZ.png) (https://i.imgur.com/YDOrfDF.png)

Cypher:
(https://i.imgur.com/dSU57Ne.png) (https://i.imgur.com/9ovSwVn.jpg)

U80:
(https://i.imgur.com/b37IRPG.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/HhWIzq4.jpg)

TGR Jane V2:
(https://i.imgur.com/GCXw8Jn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/JAU6fST.jpg)

No Accents:

Haus:
(https://i.imgur.com/a5ke2Mx.png) (https://i.imgur.com/e4ocZfY.png)

Prophet:
(https://i.imgur.com/17yQYDL.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/PbqAoB7.jpg)

A couple of changings I am making is the white and a overhaul on all the novelties.

The white will have a more gray tone to it.

The blue and gray will stay the same as it as always been. 8181C and 11C

Deskmats:
(https://i.imgur.com/SbXxtf1.png) (https://i.imgur.com/j7bMvDE.png)

JTK Variants:
(https://i.imgur.com/72uqtLn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/MjZKHAK.jpg)


Collaborators:
RnCables
Asero Foundry
Canto Clicks

USA/NA: Mechs & Co
Canada/NA: DeskHero
AUS/OCE: DailyClack
Asia: ZFrontier
Europe: MyKeyboard

Group Buy January 7th


FAQ:

No, I will not switch to PBT

No, I will not use a different profile.

No to NorDeUK Dvorak or Colemak

Renders: Kingk22 & Manzel

Discord: https://discord.gg/5eBD5M7


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:25:45
ne kitting avail?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Lenux on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:28:34
Making JTK arctic is amazing maybe we could see some kitting pictures ?

Maybe add in the base kit alice spacebars it would be amazing.

anyways, i'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: hali on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:37:57
No to NorDeUK or Dvorak

International Kits will be included, just don't know which kit.

What does this mean
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:39:37
No to NorDeUK or Dvorak

International Kits will be included, just don't know which kit.

What does this mean

ISO
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:47:51
For some reason this feels too soon, like the colorway feels almost stale to look at (which is weird because i LOVE my JTK arctic, and LOVE the set). probably because KAT arctic is in the process of being fulfilled still . Seeing KAT arctic come back after a long period of unavailability after JTK arctic was really welcoming but this one feels like it doesn't give kat arctic time to have it's glory or something. sad to see the novelties change too because i liked those a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 19 July 2021, 17:48:50
I mean, I'm probably going to be in for base, but this IC feels rushed when the GB is set for Jan 2022, should have at least waited until you had a render of the base kit. Either way yes to GMK Artic lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 19 July 2021, 18:06:26
For some reason this feels too soon, like the colorway feels almost stale to look at (which is weird because i LOVE my JTK arctic, and LOVE the set). probably because KAT arctic is in the process of being fulfilled still . Seeing KAT arctic come back after a long period of unavailability after JTK arctic was really welcoming but this one feels like it doesn't give kat arctic time to have it's glory or something. sad to see the novelties change too because i liked those a lot!

I've noticed after several runs that the gray really fluctuates in it's shade in terms of lighting, the renders are set in it's purest form of color. JTK and KAT didn't sit well with me, the novelties seem a bit dated and I wanted to do something new with this one


I mean, I'm probably going to be in for base, but this IC feels rushed when the GB is set for Jan 2022, should have at least waited until you had a render of the base kit. Either way yes to GMK Artic lol

I'm really just using this as an IC instead of a hype thread. Rather get input on everything before I actually use someone's time going back and forth between renders and kits.  I'm also going to be really busy for the next few months so I wanted to get something out there before this becomes an afterthought.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 19 July 2021, 18:17:00
the renders are set in it's purest form of color

Purest form of color? What?

I'm really just using this as an IC instead of a hype thread. Rather get input on everything before I actually use someone's time going back and forth between renders and kits.  I'm also going to be really busy for the next few months so I wanted to get something out there before this becomes an afterthought.

You've run Artic twice now but you're using an IC to gather early stage feedback? This is confusing af. Also, you couldn't be bothered to render your kits first, not even in KLE? C'mon man.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Richthorn on Mon, 19 July 2021, 18:57:35
the renders are set in it's purest form of color

Purest form of color? What?

I'm really just using this as an IC instead of a hype thread. Rather get input on everything before I actually use someone's time going back and forth between renders and kits.  I'm also going to be really busy for the next few months so I wanted to get something out there before this becomes an afterthought.

You've run Artic twice now but you're using an IC to gather early stage feedback? This is confusing af. Also, you couldn't be bothered to render your kits first, not even in KLE? C'mon man.

It would have cost you $0 to not type this garbage.

The man is making a product he doesn't owe you anything. Why are you so entitled. If you feel it's low effort move on with your day and don't but the set.

Get a hobby (preferably not keyboards we don't need your toxicity)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Kinesiologist on Mon, 19 July 2021, 19:39:17
Good to see this set return.

- Is it possible to make the blue as the primary mod color and use the grey as accents?
- Canadian vendor please?

Regardless, looking forward to kitting and more renders :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: psxndc on Mon, 19 July 2021, 19:45:13
TFW Colemak support doesn't even get a "no" call-out (like Dvorak did). Oof. But I get it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 19 July 2021, 19:59:53
i'm gonna hold off until DCS Arctic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Aritega on Mon, 19 July 2021, 20:22:25
Adding an extra B and alice spacebars in the base kit would be nice. Please consider a Canadian vendor, like deskhero.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: driftingbunnies on Mon, 19 July 2021, 20:36:09
I think running an IC for a GB in Jan 2022 is a good idea especially since people won't be seeing the set in their hands until Jan 2023.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 19 July 2021, 21:02:00
there's a decent chance something running right now isnt in our hands till Jan 2023

blue alpha kit!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 19 July 2021, 22:44:31
the renders are set in it's purest form of color

Purest form of color? What?

I'm really just using this as an IC instead of a hype thread. Rather get input on everything before I actually use someone's time going back and forth between renders and kits.  I'm also going to be really busy for the next few months so I wanted to get something out there before this becomes an afterthought.

You've run Artic twice now but you're using an IC to gather early stage feedback? This is confusing af. Also, you couldn't be bothered to render your kits first, not even in KLE? C'mon man.

It would have cost you $0 to not type this garbage.

The man is making a product he doesn't owe you anything. Why are you so entitled. If you feel it's low effort move on with your day and don't but the set.

Get a hobby (preferably not keyboards we don't need your toxicity)

LMAO 1 post account that doesn't think an IC is supposed to have kit renders. If you think it's toxic to ask for kit renders then maybe this ain't the hobby for ya.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 19 July 2021, 23:11:28
Good to see this set return.

- Is it possible to make the blue as the primary mod color and use the grey as accents?
- Canadian vendor please?

Regardless, looking forward to kitting and more renders :D



Adding an extra B and alice spacebars in the base kit would be nice. Please consider a Canadian vendor, like deskhero.

I don't think space bars will be happening the the extra B is considered for sure.

- Also, I seem to have forgotten about Canada, they will be our CA proxy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Richthorn on Mon, 19 July 2021, 23:16:06
the renders are set in it's purest form of color

Purest form of color? What?

I'm really just using this as an IC instead of a hype thread. Rather get input on everything before I actually use someone's time going back and forth between renders and kits.  I'm also going to be really busy for the next few months so I wanted to get something out there before this becomes an afterthought.

You've run Artic twice now but you're using an IC to gather early stage feedback? This is confusing af. Also, you couldn't be bothered to render your kits first, not even in KLE? C'mon man.

It would have cost you $0 to not type this garbage.

The man is making a product he doesn't owe you anything. Why are you so entitled. If you feel it's low effort move on with your day and don't but the set.

Get a hobby (preferably not keyboards we don't need your toxicity)

LMAO 1 post account that doesn't think an IC is supposed to have kit renders. If you think it's toxic to ask for kit renders then maybe this ain't the hobby for ya.

Ah yes.

A toxic reply attacking my irrelevant post count because you can't mister up the character to have even a semblance of self reflection and look on your toxicity with outside eyes.

I really hope that works for you in life.

Hope your personal relationship succeed and wish you the best of luck in growing as a person :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: nvh2092 on Mon, 19 July 2021, 23:43:45
Anyways, please have an inclusive base kit which contains physical iso support. We're in 2021 now, big base kit is the way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Krolyk on Tue, 20 July 2021, 00:01:30
I like this a lot actually.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mecxs on Tue, 20 July 2021, 00:43:19
(https://i.imgur.com/FmtIQZ7.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 20 July 2021, 00:50:01
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FmtIQZ7.jpg)


I actually laughed a little bit.

Humor aside, I’d like opinions on what people would like to see in regards to kits before I put something up and then change it last minute due to whatever circumstance. But I’ll put up a base kit soon enough to appease those who absolutely need it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Eastji on Tue, 20 July 2021, 01:48:22
Good blue good set good dude
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Fraaaan on Tue, 20 July 2021, 04:29:14
Quote
ISO will be included, just don't know which kit.

BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT. If you don't have terminal ISO in your base kit then me, and many others straight up just aren't interested in buying your poorly kitted set. You can make an international kit with regional characters if you want but terminal ISO support should be in every base kit. At the very least support the layout, no need to add anything else.

Just copy Handarbeit or Analog Dreams kitting. Big base kits and high MOQ are the way to go if you want a decently priced GMK set nowadays.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 20 July 2021, 08:32:02
the renders are set in it's purest form of color

Purest form of color? What?

I'm really just using this as an IC instead of a hype thread. Rather get input on everything before I actually use someone's time going back and forth between renders and kits.  I'm also going to be really busy for the next few months so I wanted to get something out there before this becomes an afterthought.

You've run Artic twice now but you're using an IC to gather early stage feedback? This is confusing af. Also, you couldn't be bothered to render your kits first, not even in KLE? C'mon man.

It would have cost you $0 to not type this garbage.

The man is making a product he doesn't owe you anything. Why are you so entitled. If you feel it's low effort move on with your day and don't but the set.

Get a hobby (preferably not keyboards we don't need your toxicity)

LMAO 1 post account that doesn't think an IC is supposed to have kit renders. If you think it's toxic to ask for kit renders then maybe this ain't the hobby for ya.

Ah yes.

A toxic reply attacking my irrelevant post count because you can't mister up the character to have even a semblance of self reflection and look on your toxicity with outside eyes.

I really hope that works for you in life.

Hope your personal relationship succeed and wish you the best of luck in growing as a person :)

lol ok buddy, asking for kitting is toxic, and your post count is irrelevant, even though your account is 5 years old. Sure  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 20 July 2021, 11:31:33
Quote
ISO will be included, just don't know which kit.

BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT. If you don't have terminal ISO in your base kit then me, and many others straight up just aren't interested in buying your poorly kitted set. You can make an international kit with regional characters if you want but terminal ISO support should be in every base kit. At the very least support the layout, no need to add anything else.

Just copy Handarbeit or Analog Dreams kitting. Big base kits and high MOQ are the way to go if you want a decently priced GMK set nowadays.

I agree Handarbeit is a good reference, I believe I'll be referencing that closely.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: hali on Tue, 20 July 2021, 11:35:15
Disclaimer: There is no kits yet as I want your input before I start putting pieces together.

I'd be happy with just a large Base Kit and Spacebars. With the way GMK prices things, it's not cost effective for many to buy extension and numpad kits when Base is only lowered to $120 or so. IMO just do 3-key in Base with bars outside and possibly a kit for aesthetics.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: heyimpanda on Tue, 20 July 2021, 12:13:48
damn text + icon mods but I also completely understand given that JTK/KAT had the option of icon mods already. looking forward to seeing the kitting
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 20 July 2021, 15:23:44
damn text + icon mods but I also completely understand given that JTK/KAT had the option of icon mods already. looking forward to seeing the kitting

I went with Icon with JTK because I knew of their inconsistencies with their previous legends.

Better to use new molds in that situation but I prefer text+icon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: doggo1dance on Wed, 21 July 2021, 08:11:05
surely there has to be a better sea vendor than DailyClack right? ilumkb, monokei,hex? isnt dailyclack normally a vendor for OCE instead
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 21 July 2021, 09:03:05
surely there has to be a better sea vendor than DailyClack right? ilumkb, monokei,hex? isnt dailyclack normally a vendor for OCE instead

Yeah sorry I’ll correct that, it’s ZFrontier.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Wed, 21 July 2021, 14:49:50
ne kitting avail?

Geekhack has become reddit, I swear. Be constructive. Don't just ask for kitting; Tell them what you want/expect. You've got 4 comments on the first page and none of them say what you want other than renders that would have inevitably changed anyways. You've expressed a more thoughtful comment about people quitting the hobby due to not being as toxic as you than you have about having an actual interest in this set. Yikes. As for me, just copy Handerbeit R2 kitting as best you can and I'll be picking this up. I already own KAT Arctic, but GMK is my preferred profile so this is a no-brainer.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Cylent on Wed, 21 July 2021, 15:20:00
ne kitting avail?

Geekhack has become reddit, I swear. Be constructive. Don't just ask for kitting; Tell them what you want/expect. You've got 4 comments on the first page and none of them say what you want other than renders that would have inevitably changed anyways. You've expressed a more thoughtful comment about people quitting the hobby due to not being as toxic as you than you have about having an actual interest in this set. Yikes. As for me, just copy Handerbeit R2 kitting as best you can and I'll be picking this up. I already own KAT Arctic, but GMK is my preferred profile so this is a no-brainer.

Customers of keycap sets do not purchase renders, they purchase kits. Most designers (including "big names") who initially post IC end up making changes down the line based on feedback - what's wrong with that? Why should it be the job of geekhack commenters to tell a designer what kitting to copy, or how to kit from scratch? It's one thing to recommend changes here or there to reduce cost or increase compatibility, but this type of response truly baffles me. Why is it toxic to request kitting so I can have something that I could potentially purchase to evaluate, and why is "ne kitting avail" an unacceptable way to express that?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: udller on Thu, 22 July 2021, 01:44:47
i like the stock gmk colour gr1. thats kinda greyish white. maybe the would suit this set? please have text and icons and extra handbag caps lock like muted2 did. please :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: kylekwong1 on Fri, 23 July 2021, 19:15:11
Quote
ISO will be included, just don't know which kit.

BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT BASE KIT. If you don't have terminal ISO in your base kit then me, and many others straight up just aren't interested in buying your poorly kitted set. You can make an international kit with regional characters if you want but terminal ISO support should be in every base kit. At the very least support the layout, no need to add anything else.

Just copy Handarbeit or Analog Dreams kitting. Big base kits and high MOQ are the way to go if you want a decently priced GMK set nowadays.

I agree Handarbeit is a good reference, I believe I'll be referencing that closely.

Handarbeit lacks support for home-end-pgup-pgdn on the right most column of a 65%
For kitting, I like Analog Dreams R2 a lot more than Handarbeit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: AstralYT on Tue, 03 August 2021, 16:06:16
I am not a huge fan of Greyish-white, much prefer the look of the jtk arctic you listed. Would buy instantly if it had same colours as jtk one.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Kits Added
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 16 August 2021, 14:35:22
Base


Compact
(https://i.imgur.com/ONIHmhd.jpg)

Space Bar
(https://i.imgur.com/FQAVKyW.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Kits Added
Post by: bustdust on Fri, 20 August 2021, 07:43:22
Could you please add a R3 pgup and a R4 pgdn to the base kit? I believe that those using a 65% keyboard (including me) would urgently need it. Thank you for your work and it is fabulous :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Kits Added
Post by: Bub on Fri, 20 August 2021, 07:51:07
Base
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SENqOHt.jpg)


i think unless MOQ is high the size of this kit might price some customers out from buying your set. personally i would slim it down for a sub $130 target price if needed

its a nice kit though! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Kits Added
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:23:56
Base
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SENqOHt.jpg)


i think unless MOQ is high the size of this kit might price some customers out from buying your set. personally i would slim it down for a sub $130 target price if needed

its a nice kit though! GLWIC

I'll have to get the quotes back from GMK to see where we stand so far. There's still plenty of time to go
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Kits Added
Post by: hali on Fri, 20 August 2021, 15:06:14
Base kit is nice and large; not really sure why there are extra 1u Ctrls and Alts in Base when only the original G8X-18XX layouts use them - does that imply the 6u in base has an off-center stem?

Also consider 3-key 40s support, 10% attachment rate might not be great depending on the MOQ you run at
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Kits Added
Post by: kylekwong1 on Fri, 20 August 2021, 18:15:29
Is is possible to add R3 pgup and R4 pgdn?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 20 September 2021, 12:14:31
(https://i.imgur.com/cTo8AEG.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 20 September 2021, 12:54:49
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cTo8AEG.jpg)


Love. I'm assuming all those top 1us are R1?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 20 September 2021, 13:48:36
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cTo8AEG.jpg)


Love. I'm assuming all those top 1us are R1?

That's correct
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 September 2021, 14:36:26
Base
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SENqOHt.jpg)


i think unless MOQ is high the size of this kit might price some customers out from buying your set. personally i would slim it down for a sub $130 target price if needed
Base kit is nice and large; not really sure why there are extra 1u Ctrls and Alts in Base when only the original G8X-18XX layouts use them - does that imply the 6u in base has an off-center stem?

Also consider 3-key 40s support, 10% attachment rate might not be great depending on the MOQ you run at

Agreed. The second pair of 1u Ctrl and Alt keys are not necessary, and neither is 6u spacebar in base. It would be good to drop those keys (esp. the expensive spacebar) to make room for some more useful options, such as 3-key 40s support, R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, or 2× 1.5u Super.

I also think the accent arrow keys could be moved to the spacebars kit, if needed.

Speaking of the spacebars kit, the blue variants of 2c, 2.25c, 2.75c are not strictly necessary and could be removed; and the 1c, 1.25c, 3c bars changed to white so they can be combined with the existing spacekeys in base. This way of splitting keys between the base and spacebars kit has a proven track record, and it's how a lot of new sets do it.

The base kit currently appears to have three 2.25u Shift keys. Assuming that's a render error and that one of them is supposed to be 2u, I would actually suggest dropping that 2u. This is because you're currently trying to squeeze too many keys into the base kit, and it's likely just going to come back around and bite you in the back.
The use case for 2u Shift is twofold: 1) GK64 and Minila support; 2) makeshift 2u Alice space. Unless you're planning on specifically targeting the East Asian market with this set (which is where GK64 and Minila are popular), use case 1 is quite rare; and since you have proper Alice support in the base kit, use case 2 doesn't even apply. Therefore, there is no substantial benefit to including 2u Shift.

Similar arguments could be made for the second 1u Ctrl key and the 6u spacebar. This goes back to the point of replacing all of these keys with more useful options, listed above.


Could you please add a R3 pgup and a R4 pgdn to the base kit? I believe that those using a 65% keyboard (including me) would urgently need it. Thank you for your work and it is fabulous :)
Is is possible to add R3 pgup and R4 pgdn?

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 20 September 2021, 15:37:10
Base
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SENqOHt.jpg)


i think unless MOQ is high the size of this kit might price some customers out from buying your set. personally i would slim it down for a sub $130 target price if needed
Base kit is nice and large; not really sure why there are extra 1u Ctrls and Alts in Base when only the original G8X-18XX layouts use them - does that imply the 6u in base has an off-center stem?

Also consider 3-key 40s support, 10% attachment rate might not be great depending on the MOQ you run at

Agreed. The second pair of 1u Ctrl and Alt keys are not necessary, and neither is 6u spacebar in base. It would be good to drop those keys (esp. the expensive spacebar) to make room for some more useful options, such as 3-key 40s support, R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, or 2× 1.5u Super.

I also think the accent arrow keys could be moved to the spacebars kit, if needed.

Speaking of the spacebars kit, the blue variants of 2c, 2.25c, 2.75c are not strictly necessary and could be removed; and the 1c, 1.25c, 3c bars changed to white so they can be combined with the existing spacekeys in base. This way of splitting keys between the base and spacebars kit has a proven track record, and it's how a lot of new sets do it.

The base kit currently appears to have three 2.25u Shift keys. Assuming that's a render error and that one of them is supposed to be 2u, I would actually suggest dropping that 2u. This is because you're currently trying to squeeze too many keys into the base kit, and it's likely just going to come back around and bite you in the back.
The use case for 2u Shift is twofold: 1) GK64 and Minila support; 2) makeshift 2u Alice space. Unless you're planning on specifically targeting the East Asian market with this set (which is where GK64 and Minila are popular), use case 1 is quite rare; and since you have proper Alice support in the base kit, use case 2 doesn't even apply. Therefore, there is no substantial benefit to including 2u Shift.

Similar arguments could be made for the second 1u Ctrl key and the 6u spacebar. This goes back to the point of replacing all of these keys with more useful options, listed above.


Could you please add a R3 pgup and a R4 pgdn to the base kit? I believe that those using a 65% keyboard (including me) would urgently need it. Thank you for your work and it is fabulous :)
Is is possible to add R3 pgup and R4 pgdn?

+1

The 3rd 2.25 was a mistake I uploaded the incorrect render. Should be updated now. I'll think about the other suggestions once I get quotes back
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 September 2021, 16:02:41
The 3rd 2.25 was a mistake I uploaded the incorrect render. Should be updated now. I'll think about the other suggestions once I get quotes back

:thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: viet on Mon, 20 September 2021, 18:56:41
I can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Starston3 on Mon, 20 September 2021, 22:24:37
Would you consider adding 2x 1.5 Code keys for those that use mac/*nix and Tsangan bottom row?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic
Post by: Banned on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:36:47
Anyways, please have an inclusive base kit which contains physical iso support. We're in 2021 now, big base kit is the way.

Yaaaaassss!!!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 21 September 2021, 11:44:30
Would you consider adding 2x 1.5 Code keys for those that use mac/*nix and Tsangan bottom row?

I don't think I've seen a set do that before.

I need to get quotes back first before making any other changes so I know what I'm working with

I can't wait!

Neither can I
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 21 September 2021, 13:28:43
Would you consider adding 2x 1.5 Code keys for those that use mac/*nix and Tsangan bottom row?

I don't think I've seen a set do that before.

This is a fairly common thing. Here are some examples: 1 (https://i.imgur.com/VF7H8eW.png), 2 (https://i.imgur.com/zNc30zY.jpg), 3 (https://i.imgur.com/6iUCjpS.png), 4 (https://i.postimg.cc/zG9sGv26/BaseTrue.jpg), 5 (https://i.imgur.com/I8Lw8iL.png). And here's how those keys rank (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/764334914413133835/888824359026831360/unknown.png) in terms of usefulness/commonness compared to some other options.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Krolyk on Tue, 21 September 2021, 18:54:19
is it possible to add light alice space bars as well, instead of only having blue
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: santela on Wed, 22 September 2021, 20:55:09
Would you consider adding 2x 1.5 Code keys for those that use mac/*nix and Tsangan bottom row?

I don't think I've seen a set do that before.

This is a fairly common thing. Here are some examples: 1 (https://i.imgur.com/VF7H8eW.png), 2 (https://i.imgur.com/zNc30zY.jpg), 3 (https://i.imgur.com/6iUCjpS.png), 4 (https://i.postimg.cc/zG9sGv26/BaseTrue.jpg), 5 (https://i.imgur.com/I8Lw8iL.png). And here's how those keys rank (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/764334914413133835/888824359026831360/unknown.png) in terms of usefulness/commonness compared to some other options.

As someone who uses a lot of Tsangan layout 65% and 75% boards 1.5u code keys are absolutely useful. Very annoyed when I have to purchase a child kit just to get that one key on a lot of the sets now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 24 September 2021, 11:46:03
I made some changes again but we'll be hearing back for quotes.

(https://i.imgur.com/ECVDqIQ.jpg)

The Alice bars were always meant to be in the base, my lack of attention was not apparently when I posed the 'corrected' renders
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: heyman on Mon, 25 October 2021, 04:46:08
I can't wait for this.

will have icon kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 27 October 2021, 23:07:39
I can't wait for this.

will have icon kit?

I don’t think so, there’s plenty enough kits and I think adding something like icons would be hindering the rest of the MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Coquelox18 on Wed, 27 October 2021, 23:27:20
i love the novelties glwic :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Rik.caffeinated on Thu, 28 October 2021, 00:43:18


I don’t think so, there’s plenty enough kits and I think adding something like icons would be hindering the rest of the MOQ.

When can we get our hands on this? Been waiting on this longer than Tidal
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Novelties Added
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 28 October 2021, 15:24:19


I don’t think so, there’s plenty enough kits and I think adding something like icons would be hindering the rest of the MOQ.

When can we get our hands on this? Been waiting on this longer than Tidal

The planned GB date is January 7th
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Group Buy Starts January 7th
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 29 November 2021, 14:44:24
GB date will be January 7th for the new year and deskmats have been added

(https://i.imgur.com/SbXxtf1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/j7bMvDE.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Group Buy Starts January 7th and deskmats added
Post by: Curin Derwin on Sun, 05 December 2021, 22:37:46
Better every update -- thanks Mcnos!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - GB Prices Announced
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 06 December 2021, 12:22:45
I have the prices and kits to be made for the GB on January 7th. Novelties and Base have a higher MOQ so hopefully we won't find any problems  :D

Base
(https://i.imgur.com/K68RFbI.jpg)
Mechs & Co $126

Extensions
(https://i.imgur.com/pSa7ti6.jpg)
Mechs & Co $38

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/hfrEzZh.jpg)
Mechs & Co $53

Spacebars
(https://i.imgur.com/miLoIRm.jpg)
Mechs & Co $28

The other regional vendors will have their prices ready closer to the GB date.

There will be several collaborations as well.

RnCables
Canto Clicks
Asero Foundry

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Jan 7th GB Prices Announced
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 06 December 2021, 15:43:24
That base kit is perfection. GLWGB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Group Buy Live
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 07 January 2022, 00:39:34
Group Buy page is live. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115871.msg3103652#msg3103652)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Group Buy Live
Post by: HyeongGeun on Mon, 17 January 2022, 01:00:20
Is gmk shoko dark blue and gmk arctic blue the same blue?
I'm curious if both gmk shoko white and gmk arctic white are the same white.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arctic - Group Buy Live
Post by: HyeongGeun on Mon, 17 January 2022, 01:06:03
Is gmk shoko dark blue and gmk arctic blue the same blue?
I'm curious if both gmk shoko white and gmk arctic white are the same white.