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[IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 15:14:12 »
Hello!

IC form - http://goo.gl/forms/lc03pfrcRku8VwDD3

As I have collected more and more GMK sets I'm getting more and more frustrated that I can't easily use them with my MiniVan (TheVan44) keyboard.  I am checking interest in a variety of GMK modifier sets to be used with existing and new GMK sets.

Provided there is enough interest, I think I would like to offer multiple modifier sets together as a single set.

I'm really loving the TA Royal Alpha set that I have and as a result the first modifier set would directly support that keyset


I figure it would also be good to have a dark and light set as well



So what do you guys think?  I'm open to changing colors, etc.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 15:17:39 »
Considering GMK minimum quantities are VERY high, how do you expect this to drop? Specific to your board with custom text will cost too much anyway.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 15:24:23 »
Considering GMK minimum quantities are VERY high, how do you expect this to drop? Specific to your board with custom text will cost too much anyway.

If there is interest, I'll find a way.  Since when has custom text been an issue?

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 15:33:11 »
Considering GMK minimum quantities are VERY high, how do you expect this to drop? Specific to your board with custom text will cost too much anyway.

If there is interest, I'll find a way.  Since when has custom text been an issue?
Until very recently GMK didn't do any custom legends with doubleshot caps.

This does seem to be changing however as many recent GMK buys have had new legends.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 15:41:16 »
If this works out electric blue (N5) would be nice, so we could combine with the Electric Bluegaloo modifers.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 15:42:05 »
If this works out electric blue (N5) would be nice, so we could combine with the Electric Bluegaloo modifers.
Good to know


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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 18:23:18 »
Looks like a great idea! Personally I'd love to see your Night Van in a full set on DSA, but that's my preference.

Also, GMK doesn't do custom legends unless you're willing to throw a few bucks down, or hit a certain MoQ due to their tooling (AFAIK).

One thing you can look at, or ask even, is how much the GMK Carbon Mods on MD cost. Ask t0mb3ry perhaps? The price is pretty high for custom text/legends.
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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 18:27:30 »
Looks like a great idea! Personally I'd love to see your Night Van in a full set on DSA, but that's my preference.

Also, GMK doesn't do custom legends unless you're willing to throw a few bucks down, or hit a certain MoQ due to their tooling (AFAIK).

One thing you can look at, or ask even, is how much the GMK Carbon Mods on MD cost. Ask t0mb3ry perhaps? The price is pretty high for custom text/legends.

thanks for the feedback! I've got a communication line open with GMK and am working on getting more info around the cost for something like this. 

P.S. Midnight Drive full set is in the works :D

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 20:03:12 »
i also love  TA Royal Alpha set . does  it in AE green?

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 20:49:08 »
I am interested. Gotta wait for the drop for minivan though  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 21:00:41 »
I'm in.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 21:53:41 »
i also love  TA Royal Alpha set . does  it in AE green?

What?

I'm in.

Right on!

I am interested. Gotta wait for the drop for minivan though  :p

Haha I hear ya. MiniVan R2 should hopefully be up by the end of the month


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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 12 July 2016, 00:12:39 »
Why not make the mods the midnight drive text color?

But either way I would just buy it for the additional layout options.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 12 July 2016, 17:18:43 »
Why not make the mods the midnight drive text color?

But either way I would just buy it for the additional layout options.

mostly because this isn't to be used with Midnight Drive as that was a set designed specifically for the MiniVan in Signature Plastics DCS profile.  These mod kits are to be used with existing and future GMK keycap sets.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 13:05:51 »
@evangs think he's asking if the green used is gmk's AE green

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 13:07:34 »
@evangs think he's asking if the green used is gmk's AE green
At yes, AE green


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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 04:05:06 »
from my pointview.
1, i love the Royal Typing Writer Alpha(RTA) by Mr Moz, but the sticky touch feeling on front pad-printed prevent me from buying full set . Really, i only buy the green mod , its real color is fabulous.
2,now Mr.  wilarseny have launched a GMK  Nordic Pine set IC regarding green set. In his IC, i know that he will keep the lay-out as tidy and neat as possible , taking consideration into the lower price.
considerring two factors above, my suggestion is that you could make some modifications on your green MOD to match the RTA and Nordic Pine. This would attract more interest who also like green color-way. However, i have no concrete idea on which lay-out is better, if i have one , i will share here with you .
About the color-way, there are three green in GMK color card. AE, ligher green, N7 ,darker green and 3B , dull but soft green . Perhaps we could arrange three greens in a harmonious way. For example, AE legend in N7 Ctrl, N7 legend in 3B Alt , 3B legend in AE WIN or CODE or Menu or some other keys. Ofcourse ,i also very fancy your white legend in AE green. and prefer to your novel keys. too many novel key may higher the price. If we keep several novel key at different height(R1,R2,R4),we could strike a perfect balance between novel key numbers and low price.
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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 13:14:31 »
from my pointview.
1, i love the Royal Typing Writer Alpha(RTA) by Mr Moz, but the sticky touch feeling on front pad-printed prevent me from buying full set . Really, i only buy the green mod , its real color is fabulous.
2,now Mr.  wilarseny have launched a GMK  Nordic Pine set IC regarding green set. In his IC, i know that he will keep the lay-out as tidy and neat as possible , taking consideration into the lower price.
considerring two factors above, my suggestion is that you could make some modifications on your green MOD to match the RTA and Nordic Pine. This would attract more interest who also like green color-way. However, i have no concrete idea on which lay-out is better, if i have one , i will share here with you .
About the color-way, there are three green in GMK color card. AE, ligher green, N7 ,darker green and 3B , dull but soft green . Perhaps we could arrange three greens in a harmonious way. For example, AE legend in N7 Ctrl, N7 legend in 3B Alt , 3B legend in AE WIN or CODE or Menu or some other keys. Ofcourse ,i also very fancy your white legend in AE green. and prefer to your novel keys. too many novel key may higher the price. If we keep several novel key at different height(R1,R2,R4),we could strike a perfect balance between novel key numbers and low price.
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Thanks for pointing out that IC.  As stand alone sets I would want many options for the mods, but by adding 4 keys to a standard set I could get pretty good coverage for a MiniVan keyboard.  I am going to pm the creator of the IC and see what they think.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:09:19 »
My input is that you should market the kit at all the popular 40-something % boards that are out there. It'll take more work but I think it'll garner more interest. If you go that route I suggest dropping 'Alt Gr', 'Minivan', 'Turbo' and maybe even 'Hack' so you can cover as much compatibility per key as possible.

In my personal opinion having the correct profile comes first, then not having a contradictory legend second. So I wouldn't mind settling for blanks in some positions. Seeing as it's a programmable board I think it would be good having one blank option for each of the R4 sized keys. Possibly a board-neutral legend like 'Hack' would work if you don't want to offer blanks.

BUT, you are a 40% expert  :D  It could be good to see some of the possible layouts you can support with the current key choices in the OP. Maybe some mockups like this (with the alpha keys grayed out) showing the versitility of the kit?


From the mockups in the OP it's a bit hard to where you see each key being utilized.

EDIT: With all that being said, I'm interested! Just like I'm interested in getting my hands on a Van44.
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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:11:04 »
Derp.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:23:25 »
My input is that you should market the kit at all the popular 40-something % boards that are out there. It'll take more work but I think it'll garner more interest. If you go that route I suggest dropping 'Alt Gr', 'Minivan', 'Turbo' and maybe even 'Hack' so you can cover as much compatibility per key as possible.
I completely agree with this. I think this is what I originally meant, but couldn't find the words from it. The group of people that have MiniVans is pretty small, and even a smaller percentage of those would consider a mod kit therefore the set needs to target all small boards to even become fathomable.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:25:29 »
My input is that you should market the kit at all the popular 40-something % boards that are out there. It'll take more work but I think it'll garner more interest. If you go that route I suggest dropping 'Alt Gr', 'Minivan', 'Turbo' and maybe even 'Hack' so you can cover as much compatibility per key as possible.
I completely agree with this. I think this is what I originally meant, but couldn't find the words from it. The group of people that have MiniVans is pretty small, and even a smaller percentage of those would consider a mod kit therefore the set needs to target all small boards to even become fathomable.

+1

I'm looking to build a set for the JD40/45.

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:39:11 »
My input is that you should market the kit at all the popular 40-something % boards that are out there. It'll take more work but I think it'll garner more interest. If you go that route I suggest dropping 'Alt Gr', 'Minivan', 'Turbo' and maybe even 'Hack' so you can cover as much compatibility per key as possible.
I completely agree with this. I think this is what I originally meant, but couldn't find the words from it. The group of people that have MiniVans is pretty small, and even a smaller percentage of those would consider a mod kit therefore the set needs to target all small boards to even become fathomable.

+1

I'm looking to build a set for the JD40/45.
Perhaps you, moz and evangs should get in touch :))

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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:42:48 »
My input is that you should market the kit at all the popular 40-something % boards that are out there. It'll take more work but I think it'll garner more interest. If you go that route I suggest dropping 'Alt Gr', 'Minivan', 'Turbo' and maybe even 'Hack' so you can cover as much compatibility per key as possible.

In my personal opinion having the correct profile comes first, then not having a contradictory legend second. So I wouldn't mind settling for blanks in some positions. Seeing as it's a programmable board I think it would be good having one blank option for each of the R4 sized keys. Possibly a board-neutral legend like 'Hack' would work if you don't want to offer blanks.

BUT, you are a 40% expert  :D  It could be good to see some of the possible layouts you can support with the current key choices in the OP. Maybe some mockups like this (with the alpha keys grayed out) showing the versitility of the kit?
Show Image


From the mockups in the OP it's a bit hard to where you see each key being utilized.

EDIT: With all that being said, I'm interested! Just like I'm interested in getting my hands on a Van44.
Good points all around.  I'm still thinking about this, but I'm also thinking about doing a MiniVan GMK set maybe along side R3. We will see though


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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 25 July 2016, 04:25:55 »
There are some nice R4 keycaps in there, that anyone might use, so if any extras hits your store, I might buy one of each, I'm sure the same applies for others too
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Re: [IC] GMK MiniVan Modifier Sets
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 25 July 2016, 22:16:32 »
Another thing, it might be good to see what MOZ is planning, seeing as Van44 users might also go in on this GB https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82737.0

EDIT: now I see you already posed in that thread, derp.