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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 22:23:51 »
Hey guys. This is exactly what i've been looking for.

Just one concern: what about the media keys over the numpad?

I remember seeing a GB with "joker" keys that could serve as such.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 23:54:12 »
Hey guys. This is exactly what i've been looking for.

Just one concern: what about the media keys over the numpad?

I remember seeing a GB with "joker" keys that could serve as such.

4 keys over the numpad? Well... Probably not.
Generally the original Cherry layout consists of 101(ANSI winkeyless), 102(ISO winkeyless), 104(ANSI winkey), or 105(ISO winkey) keys, not 108 keys.
As far as I know, this GB covers Cherry 3000, its 75% and HHKB layout.
Anyway, if possible, 4 blank windowed caps would be preferred.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 01:41:26 »
Hmm... my bad, actually, i thought it came with 4 joker keys because of this picture: http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Full_Dolch.JPG

But it looks like it came with only one.

I was thinking, perhaps including 4 identical keys (blanks or other) to cover up the media keys on Ducky keyboards for example.

I guess you could leave what is already on there, or get ANYTHING else. Although it might break the unity of this classic style. I just thought it was a shame to have all those extra keys while nothing makes sense for the media keys.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #103 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:04:43 »
The extra set originally had 4 windowed blanks along with a bunch of other stuff. It was far too expensive, so I had to make it smaller. The blank keys were one of the things I removed, sorry.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #104 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:23:31 »
Hmm... my bad, actually, i thought it came with 4 joker keys because of this picture: http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Full_Dolch.JPG

But it looks like it came with only one.

I was thinking, perhaps including 4 identical keys (blanks or other) to cover up the media keys on Ducky keyboards for example.

I guess you could leave what is already on there, or get ANYTHING else. Although it might break the unity of this classic style. I just thought it was a shame to have all those extra keys while nothing makes sense for the media keys.

Hmm... actually it depends on Photekq's decision.
Probably or not, to reach MOQ easily, Photekq would propose mockups like these.

As I mentioned earlier, basically I still agree the "identical single" extra key such as Joker, blank windowed or something else would be the good solution for the modern keyboard having 4 more keys. If the price is reasonable, I wish the extra key would be included in the extra set.

However,you know, the more keys, the more money  :D
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:27:13 »
The extra set originally had 4 windowed blanks along with a bunch of other stuff. It was far too expensive, so I had to make it smaller. The blank keys were one of the things I removed, sorry.

Fair enough!

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:26:10 »
Shutup and take my money

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:45:43 »
Just saw this now, between this and the GMK Red Alert you have I'm gonna need more boards for these sets ;D

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #108 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:52:48 »
blessed be ye for thou art including 1.75x control cap.

I'm so down for this buy you guyz I'm gonna pair it with the blue modifier set
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:06:09 »
ask him if he will come down at all on the price

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:22:21 »
ask him if he will come down at all on the price

Ask who?
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:49:45 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:52:17 »
ask him if he will come down at all on the price

Ask who?

Whoever the guy Photeq is using to get these, he wants $200 a set plus shipping for the red alert GMK


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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:52:22 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?
Red Alert isn't his, he is offering a proxy service for it.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:53:34 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?

No this GB is being run directly for Geekhackers, we'll be getting cost price from GMK. Price should be revealed when the GB goes live but it will probably be around the $120-$140 mark.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #115 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:56:01 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?
Red Alert isn't his, he is offering a proxy service for it.

You think it will be closer to HyperFuse's price tag or Red Alerts Price tag?


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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:57:52 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?

No this GB is being run directly for Geekhackers, we'll be getting cost price from GMK. Price should be revealed when the GB goes live but it will probably be around the $120-$140 mark.

Oh thank god. 

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:57:59 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?
Red Alert isn't his, he is offering a proxy service for it.

You think it will be closer to HyperFuse's price tag or Red Alerts Price tag?



Won't be anywhere near the Red Alert price.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:59:42 »
Are these going to be $200 like your red alert set?
Red Alert isn't his, he is offering a proxy service for it.

You think it will be closer to HyperFuse's price tag or Red Alerts Price tag?
Red Alert and Olivetti were privately funded I think, and he is making artisan caps specifically for each set, so he gets to control the price. The sets w/ the artisan caps would be worth about 175, but he is charging 200, that way he can still make a profit after privately funding the whole thing.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 26 February 2015, 22:04:59 »

This thread is a sort of pre-IC (!?)

The price should be disclosed, eventually. However, as this is not an IC yet, the original poster may not be inclined to reveal it just yet. Otherwise, he would revealed it already.


In the other hand, judging for the mockup being GMK made, Photekq may have some information on pricing from the manufacturer already.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #120 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 01:36:29 »
The RA/Olivetti group buy is just me offering a proxy service. To be perfectly, 100% clear : I DID NOT CHOOSE THE PRICE

Classic beige will be bought directly from GMK, and will be around $135~ give or take $5. You may be asking.. Why's that more expensive than Hyperfuse, Dolch, etc? You can thank the European Union and their 19% VAT for that :) Anyway, even after the EU I'm sure you'll agree $135 is much nicer than $200, and I'm taking practically nothing from it (just a little to cover any unexpected fees I might encounter) to make it as cheap as it can be.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 04:17:42 »
Wouldn't it make sense to have a partner in the USA handle domestic CONUS distribution?

If they're going to be presorted by GMK then have it sent in two shipments. One to EU and one to US. This is how Ctrl.Alt is handling Hyperfuse. GMK is sending EU orders to Bunny and US orders to Cody.

I imagine a large majority of orders will be from the US. It seems like a huge waste of money to have all of us pay almost 20% more for EU taxes when we don't even live in the EU.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #122 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 05:39:14 »
Wouldn't it make sense to have a partner in the USA handle domestic CONUS distribution?

If they're going to be presorted by GMK then have it sent in two shipments. One to EU and one to US. This is how Ctrl.Alt is handling Hyperfuse. GMK is sending EU orders to Bunny and US orders to Cody.

I imagine a large majority of orders will be from the US. It seems like a huge waste of money to have all of us pay almost 20% more for EU taxes when we don't even live in the EU.


+1


it is a shame the final price of the set will be higher, while there is alternatives to keep it at a competitive level.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #123 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 06:20:14 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #124 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 06:44:25 »
Yeah it's a lot of work to ask of someone and while some people might be fine doing it they'd still need to be someone that we can all trust.

I'm fine paying the extra, I trust you to get the job done :)
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #125 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 07:10:31 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I wonder if Bunny will do it?

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 07:11:16 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I wonder if Bunny will do it?

Bunny is in the UK, it would be Cody that would have to do it. And that is a lot to ask of someone.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 07:12:18 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I wonder if Bunny will do it?
Bunny is in Uk aswell
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #128 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 08:39:23 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I proxied the second round of sprit's spring group buy and would be happy to help here.   :thumb:   If you can trust me...   :p :rolleyes:

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 08:44:51 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I proxied the second round of sprit's spring group buy and would be happy to help here.   :thumb:   If you can trust me...   :p ::)


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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #130 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 08:48:58 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I proxied the second round of sprit's spring group buy and would be happy to help here.   :thumb:   If you can trust me...   :p :rolleyes:
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #131 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 10:14:43 »
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #132 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 20:30:02 »
Yeah I think it would be greaqt
Wouldn't it make sense to have a partner in the USA handle domestic CONUS distribution?

If they're going to be presorted by GMK then have it sent in two shipments. One to EU and one to US. This is how Ctrl.Alt is handling Hyperfuse. GMK is sending EU orders to Bunny and US orders to Cody.

I imagine a large majority of orders will be from the US. It seems like a huge waste of money to have all of us pay almost 20% more for EU taxes when we don't even live in the EU.


+1


it is a shame the final price of the set will be higher, while there is alternatives to keep it at a competitive level.


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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #133 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 20:36:04 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

If you guys can trust me, I can do this

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #134 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 22:17:48 »
Sure, if someone I can trust with about 30,000EUR of the community's money is willing to pack 250+ orders without payment, then that is a possibility.

I proxied the second round of sprit's spring group buy and would be happy to help here.   :thumb:   If you can trust me...   :p :rolleyes:

I'd be willing to help as well.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #135 on: Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:33:20 »
I like the idea of having someone in the USA handle it to save $$$

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« Reply #136 on: Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:20:37 »
I need to find a spring maker and try for an Alps spring GB as well.  BRB, PMing Matias.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 10 March 2015, 01:15:12 »
I just looked over the layout and mockup a few times again, and I gotta say that this is a really well-thought out set with the minimal amount of keys to satisfy everyone.

You have doubleshot window keys, hhkb support, windowed keys, 75% support, Profile-A for those who want vintage bottom rows, symmetrical \| and `~ keys, and swapped Ctrl/Capslock keys.
It's a shame about the lack of 1800 keys, but like Bueller and a few others pointed out in the past, that can easily be remedied by buying another set if you really want it.

I'm pretty impressed by the selection of keys for the layouts, and just wanted to point it out :) Hope to see this reach MOQ when it gets off the ground!

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #138 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 09:42:31 »
Any updates on when this is going to begin?

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #139 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 10:09:23 »
Any updates on when this is going to begin?
Not really. I'm pretty sure that Photekq will launch it when he feels the timing is right to ensure that moq is met. With Hyperfuse just finishing, and the TA starting, with the Olivetti and red alert buys going already there is a lot of buys going on. This will happen for sure. We all just need to wait :thumb:

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #140 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 10:12:58 »
I'm just trying to get it worked out so that US orders won't have to pay 19% VAT at the moment.

After that, it'll be ready to go. But the question is.. Wait for TA or just go anyway?
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #141 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 10:27:56 »
I'm just trying to get it worked out so that US orders won't have to pay 19% VAT at the moment.

After that, it'll be ready to go. But the question is.. Wait for TA or just go anyway?
I will be able to afford both but I don't think that many people have that luxury... I personally say wait. Build some hype around it and make sure that everyone knows it's going to come. I think bunny and intelli both did a good job with Hyperfuse and the TA in garnering attention by letting it fester a bit on the forums. This just my opinion though.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 11:41:03 »
But the question is.. Wait for TA or just go anyway?

I think just go for it!

The thing is there will never be a time slot where people aren't recovering from some big GB. If you wait until TA is finished TJCaustin might start his GMK Klaxon Alert GB, Ivan might do PBT R5, Matt3o does a new thing and CTRL ALT will sure as hell come up with another awesome set again.

This place is called Wallethack for a reason - in my opinion this set is strong enough to always succeed!

The classic beige theme is so popular that I don't see a way this doesn't go trough. I am sure you will get more orders than usual from Deskthority because people can complete their native Cherry alphas with your mods.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #143 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 11:48:02 »
How about a r0 option for the function row?

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #144 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 11:52:26 »
I believe Photekq has already stated that no more changes will be made.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #145 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 11:54:35 »
How about a r0 option for the function row?
My intention was to perfectly emulate the original Cherry sets, and add some modern touches.

R0 does not fit into either of those things. It will not be added.

I have changed one thing based on feedback from the community - two 1.25u blank keys will be added, since the extra cost is very minimal.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #146 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 11:57:05 »
How about a r0 option for the function row?
My intention was to perfectly emulate the original Cherry sets, and add some modern touches.

R0 does not fit into either of those things. It will not be added.

I have changed one thing based on feedback from the community - two 1.25u blank keys will be added, since the extra cost is very minimal.

Nothing else will be changed.
That's cool!
Just asking. I'm still getting this set. It's already a great set.

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #147 on: Sun, 22 March 2015, 16:45:06 »
Any updates?

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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #148 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 20:16:22 »
Bump.
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Re: Regarding GMK Classic Beige GB
« Reply #149 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 20:26:59 »
I'm just trying to get it worked out so that US orders won't have to pay 19% VAT at the moment.

After that, it'll be ready to go. But the question is.. Wait for TA or just go anyway?

IMO - wait.  For example I was one of the people who paid in the final days of Hyperfuse, now i'm trying to figure out a way to get in on TA as well. If this came along in the next couple of weeks I probably wouldn't be able to do both.
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