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fohat.digs:
Sure, just flip a coin.

noisyturtle:
What depresses me is Taylor Swift is likely going to sway people who were on the fence. Because some random celeb should have the weight to decide an entire countries election... I ****ing hate this world.

tp4tissue:

--- Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 September 2024, 17:40:15 ---Sure, just flip a coin.



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Fohat. You are constantly attacking trump, the PERSON.  No one disagrees he's a bad guy.

Look at the facts of our system and our real political decisions. The democrats, biden, harris, is doing, and Will-Do exactly the same job as Trump.

Harris Biden, may be better people,  but they follow the exact guideline laid out by the existing system, as Trump did.

Bernie Sanders was our only hope, and YOUR generation (the most politically and economically repsonsible) failed America by not supporting him. 

tp4tissue:

--- Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 16 September 2024, 17:54:23 ---What depresses me is Taylor Swift is likely going to sway people who were on the fence. Because some random celeb should have the weight to decide an entire countries election... I ****ing hate this world.

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Democracy is an ideal, but as applied to humanity, it's been a con/ illusion.

We do vote,  we vote for killing animals,  more fossil fuels to feed our garbage collecting,  and completely disregard the real costs on the environment.

fohat.digs:
Bernie Sanders was approximately in my generation. I have 2 "Bernie" T-shirts, along with my Elizabeth Warren shirt.

Political change is always glacial, no matter how pressing the issue.
But the Left has almost always tacked toward the arc of justice, while the Right invariably tacks away from it.

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