Trusting that site is like trusting wccftech or whatever.
Now i have to save another 400 dollars for a top of the line graphics card, dammit.
this thread title gave me ****ing cancerHonestly didn't even know wtf it meant until I went into the thread.
It's not JeeTeeEEhks, it's ArrTeeEks....
Which card you guys holdn' out fer ??Not those.
Wanting to hold out for that upcoming 3080 20GB model to see how much it'll retail at (or if it'll even fit in the case).It's not JeeTeeEEhks, it's ArrTeeEks....
Also this
Which card you guys holdn' out fer ??Not those.
They can take a hike with those prices.
They got addicted to high profit with the mining craze and I seriously hope almost no one buys the 80 or 90 but you know they will.
I'm holding out for a 3060. Those high prices can go commit rubberdome.
Now i have to save another 400 dollars for a top of the line graphics card, dammit.
Rumored price $1400, not insane, but would prefer $600
Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.
For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.
Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.
For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.
**** that. 350w+? I thought we were moving to more efficient power-to-performance. Such a turn-off.
The power draw rumor is most likely true, if rumors about TSMC/Samsung are true. I'm no engineer, but from what I've heard, the 3xxx series will be built on Samsung's 8nm node instead of TSMC's 7nm node. Samsung simply isn't as efficient at making the massive dies that TSMC has been building for years, so it doesn't surprise me at all that the power draw is much higher. Honestly the high power draw and the massive cooler really remind me of the Fermi days.Did some checking, the RTX 3090 is rated for 350 watts.
They need the extra power.
For comparison, almost no other card draws much over 200 with most around 150-190.
Makes me think they may have glued two 3080's together, it would explain the price.
**** that. 350w+? I thought we were moving to more efficient power-to-performance. Such a turn-off.
it' dat 7nm, 30-40% m0ar pwer efficient. m0ar perf0rmance in the same footprint...
Not sure if the power rumor is true. But if it is.. I would think Big-Navi should put up some Big numbers, otherwise there'd be no reason to stretch so hard
3080 will mostly likely be 200watts give or take about 10%.
3080 will mostly likely be 200watts give or take about 10%.
We know from the Gainward leaks a couple days ago that their 3080 will be 320W (with 350w for their 3090). So gives some ballpark for other board partners. Though how much in typical use it'll draw idk (same could be said for EVGA's 2080Ti and Supers which are mostly 250W).
i kinda hope that those will not drive the used market through the roof. like the 2080 did and covid did after.RX 580 4gb is around $120-130. They were about $80 this time last year.
cause here i see already RX580-8G for sale at 250 euros and it has been 2 or 3 years that the used card price stays the same or goes up for new generations... 3 years ago i bought an R9 280 tri-X at 50 euros, now i can't find them under 80... kinda why i hate nvidia/apple/samsung...
Leaked benchmarks say + 40% ontop of 2080Ti.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cH14rUh.gif)
How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.
How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.
+72.5%
How would it compare to lets say, a 1080TI? I'm upgrading soon and I'm curious how that would compare to a 3080 or 3090. Disregarding the price.
+72.5%
Do different engines/resolutions/CPU and RAM speeds have so little influence that a number can be plucked out of the air like this?
Sticking with my EVGA GTX 1080 SC until it can't play new games anymore, then I'll upgrade...
I don't need anything over 1080p to game well, so my 1080 should last me at least a few more years...
I don't need anything over 1080p to game well, so my 1080 should last me at least a few more years...
For 1080p you're definetly set for a while!
yeah unfortunate that i've put myself on the tp setup because my 4k display doesn't play nice with my 1080 anymore and i've been itching to change my setup to accommodate a higher refresh rate.
Praise be
:llama:
What did you read?
$1400 lmao go **** yourself
My entire rig cost $1400
Well lets wait for second hand market 1000 series and 2000 to crash when these GPU's are massively accessible to everyone.
Maybe gonna try to snipe a 1080 TI or something if they crash.
I'll be holding onto my 1080ti and just buying a 3080, I can put the 1080Ti into my son's rig - as everyone knows every 5yr old should have a 1080ti lol.
I'll be holding onto my 1080ti and just buying a 3080, I can put the 1080Ti into my son's rig - as everyone knows every 5yr old should have a 1080ti lol.
I agree on keeping the 1080ti, but one should buy a 3090 to replace it. Not a 3080.
if you donate the difference in price between the 3080 and 3090 :)
I'll be holding onto my 1080ti and just buying a 3080, I can put the 1080Ti into my son's rig - as everyone knows every 5yr old should have a 1080ti lol.
I agree on keeping the 1080ti, but one should buy a 3090 to replace it. Not a 3080.
I remember when the 1000' series came out and instead of getting a new card I just bought another 970.well yeah SLI/CrossFire died for multiple reasons, 1 both were buggy and badly supported by games and 2 DX12 promised to replace them and support multi GPU at the API level and so they became redundant, although DX12 mutli-gpu is still plagued with the same issues as was SLI/CF so yeah pretty much dead until either nVidia or AMD needs it bad
RIP SLI. It was cool as heck and had the potential to be awesome for VR, but it wasn't destined to be.
So if this is true holy crap: NVIDIA's next-gen Titan RTX specs teased: 48GB GDDR6X and over $3000
Source (take w/ a grain of NaCL): https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75147/nvidias-next-gen-titan-rtx-specs-teased-48gb-gddr6x-and-over-3000/index.html
So if this is true holy crap: NVIDIA's next-gen Titan RTX specs teased: 48GB GDDR6X and over $3000
Source (take w/ a grain of NaCL): https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75147/nvidias-next-gen-titan-rtx-specs-teased-48gb-gddr6x-and-over-3000/index.html
Power draw is as insane as I expected. OC numbers are pushing 550w+ (not shown on the graph)Show Image(https://linustechtips.com/main/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://www.io-tech.fi/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/rtx380-bench-teho.png&key=0d9db1aecaec90fd83b75f78c77df6d3f11a5848022c4b7e7aff294bd5d0392b)
~snip~It doesn't matter, 320w power draw is still completely unacceptable. This isn't a "TI" or a Super or a flagship model.
This appears to be total system power consumption ('without the display' per translation) not the card alone. Gamers Nexus has charts (https://youtu.be/oTeXh9x0sUc?t=1402) which look at GPU only power draw for both stock and OC'd and it peaked at 373W.
It doesn't matter, 320w power draw is still completely unacceptable. This isn't a "TI" or a Super or a flagship model.
It doesn't matter, 320w power draw is still completely unacceptable. This isn't a "TI" or a Super or a flagship model.What i would find unacceptable is nVidia claims of 100% improvement where it seems to be about a 40% average... but it is now expected of them.
well silverstone have you covered there :) it will be the cooling that is going to be a huge problem in a sff, one that cooler is huge and 2 it requires that your case do all the work of exhausting that hot air and that will not work that well in an sff maybe a crazy partner will make a blower one for those use cases
The 335watt thing, well, it's not going into an SFF build that's for sure. Unless it's an SFF that's not really that smole, with a giant 800watt psu. HHAHAHA
So we're looking at ~1.4x raytracing performance on 3080 vs 2080ti.I wouldn't count on that.
Given that statistic, I think 3090 is definitely warranted.
The 335watt thing, well, it's not going into an SFF build that's for sure. Unless it's an SFF that's not really that smole, with a giant 800watt psu. HHAHAHA
Honestly what we need is a new type of computer that is not restricted by the bottlenecks of current clockspeeds. I keep waiting for that announcement, and they MUST be working on it being aware of the hard line that limits technology growth of the current cpu design. I have a feeling that technology is being suppressed to lengthen the life of the ailing current cpu technology that isn't really improving at all anymore.x86 just needs to die. We could advance so much further without the restrictions of x86, but it's ingrained too far into all of our tech so far. RISC could potentially get us somewhere new, but it's not enough.
Honestly what we need is a new type of computer that is not restricted by the bottlenecks of current clockspeeds. I keep waiting for that announcement, and they MUST be working on it being aware of the hard line that limits technology growth of the current cpu design. I have a feeling that technology is being suppressed to lengthen the life of the ailing current cpu technology that isn't really improving at all anymore.x86 just needs to die. We could advance so much further without the restrictions of x86, but it's ingrained too far into all of our tech so far. RISC could potentially get us somewhere new, but it's not enough.
On another note, I'm glad I kept my z170 oc formula. I'll be doing the bios mod to put a 9900k in and slap a 3070 in and be good for another 6 years. I'll probably snag a Sliger Cerberus to keep size down though.
x86 does have some advantages, for one its retro-compatibility and its cisc approach although power hungry for some task lends itself pretty well at everyday computing, and with nVidia buying ARM i do not think it is the future anymore as my expectation from nVidia is doing the same thing they did with their GPU, pack full or proprietary tech that they do not even sell to anyone else, and end up failing from lack of adoption (Gsync, SLI, PhysX...) so maybe Power can take the crown... i guess we will see how it goesHonestly what we need is a new type of computer that is not restricted by the bottlenecks of current clockspeeds. I keep waiting for that announcement, and they MUST be working on it being aware of the hard line that limits technology growth of the current cpu design. I have a feeling that technology is being suppressed to lengthen the life of the ailing current cpu technology that isn't really improving at all anymore.x86 just needs to die. We could advance so much further without the restrictions of x86, but it's ingrained too far into all of our tech so far. RISC could potentially get us somewhere new, but it's not enough.
On another note, I'm glad I kept my z170 oc formula. I'll be doing the bios mod to put a 9900k in and slap a 3070 in and be good for another 6 years. I'll probably snag a Sliger Cerberus to keep size down though.
Mr. Squishy, can that board supply enough power to a 10900k? I know the chips fit and it can run newer chips but I'm not sure it can handle such a massive jump in power.Only a 9900k, but yes the z170OCF absolutely has the VRM's for it. There were overclockers setting records with the OCF's with 9900k's until the EVGA DARK board came out.
TP4 is absolutely correct here, but I'm less of a gamer than I used to be. Sure, a 3080 would be better for games with rtx, but I mostly want more power for encoding and rendering. A 3070 for me will still be a gigantic upgrade over my 1070ti for 1080p/144hz and VR gaming though. I'm hoping to pick up the rumored eye tracking version of the HP Reverb G2 if it ever comes out, 3070 will be stonks for that.Honestly what we need is a new type of computer that is not restricted by the bottlenecks of current clockspeeds. I keep waiting for that announcement, and they MUST be working on it being aware of the hard line that limits technology growth of the current cpu design. I have a feeling that technology is being suppressed to lengthen the life of the ailing current cpu technology that isn't really improving at all anymore.On another note, I'm glad I kept my z170 oc formula. I'll be doing the bios mod to put a 9900k in and slap a 3070 in and be good for another 6 years. I'll probably snag a Sliger Cerberus to keep size down though.
Mmmm..... idk,,,, 3080 better choice 4 raytrace, but def wait for the AMD announcement october.
Only a 9900k, but yes the z170OCF absolutely has the VRM's for it. There were overclockers setting records with the OCF's with 9900k's until the EVGA DARK board came out.I phrased it wrong, VRM I have little doubt, I believe they repurposed a few pins to get more power to the chip, but we're talking Intel, so it's not a surprise.
, but I mostly want more power for encoding and rendering.
1080 TI's are already flirting with the $200 range on eBay the past week. I'll definitely snap one up if they dip much further.
meanwhile...
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+RTX+3080&_sacat=0&_sop=16 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+RTX+3080&_sacat=0&_sop=16)
1080 TI's are already flirting with the $200 range on eBay the past week. I'll definitely snap one up if they dip much further.Still Ł300+ here (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+1080ti&_sop=1), even with stupid UK price premium that seems too high. Not that I want one, you just made me interested :p
1080 TI's are already flirting with the $200 range on eBay the past week. I'll definitely snap one up if they dip much further.Still Ł300+ here (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+1080ti&_sop=1), even with stupid UK price premium that seems too high. Not that I want one, you just made me interested :p
meanwhile...Proof that people are morons.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+RTX+3080&_sacat=0&_sop=16 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+RTX+3080&_sacat=0&_sop=16)
well we do not have the same definition of poor, i can't afford a 200 euro GPU and food but i do not think of myself as poor or "@ maximum p00r" there are far worse everywhere
it doesn't make sense to get a 1080ti if you CAN fordz a 3070 or 3080.
1080Ti ONLY IF @ maximum p00r like Tp4. Tp4 is really only using it for video playback.
Right but cloud services can't also get me better gaming performance. Plus there aren't cloud solutions that I like for the work I do. Anyway, it's all just hobby work. I'm not losing money if I wait for a 3 hour render to finish. Squishy is patient., but I mostly want more power for encoding and rendering.
See if you can buy cloud service for that, it's way faster, time/cost efficient to have your render done at the data center.
It doesn't make sense to wait 3 hrs for a render at home when the cloud can poof it out in 1 minute.
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
and here I am just dreaming of getting more than 19fps on medium settings while playing RDR2 :(
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.have you got your buy bot ready? or are you hopping for nVidia to not be ****s and send enough cards out that the scalpers will not keep up?
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
that's a good plan to sell off your 2070 super, but all the 30xx series cards have been so hard to get a hold of. i only know one friend who has one so far, and he got it through the nvidia employee gear store. you can tell how hard they are to get a hold of by looking at the scalped price of the 3080's.
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
3080 Phinixx.. 3080..
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.have you got your buy bot ready? or are you hopping for nVidia to not be ****s and send enough cards out that the scalpers will not keep up?
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
Does nvidia do anything not to let those bots buy cards on their site?i was just joking, hopefully, nVidia said, after the 1st batch was all sold, that they will implement a CAPTCHA to prevent that, although like for nintendo scalpers are good for business so how hard are they going to try to fight them remain to be seen but as team red as leak a document in which they seem very adamant to stop the bots hopefully nVidia will do the same, or they may lose market shares if AMD is telling the truth about their cards
Well, they release 3070 on nvidia site 5 minutes late.i do not think they even can, scalpers use bot nets to slow the site down even the beefiest supercomputer would end up throttled by the connection to the internet, and while they overwhelm the server they can buy the stock, dimensioning for that would require to overall all of the UK (for your case) communication infrastructure. they can mitigate but not prepare fully, and it will be the same for all next gpu launch, a few peoples saw they could make big bank out of that, they will continue...
Buy Now button transferred you to Scan UK shop, which site was immediately slowed down, going to checkout took 40 minutes after it wiped your basket. So there was no way to buy it.
Don't understand how retailer cannot prepare their system for such releases...
Mother****ers.
Well, they release 3070 on nvidia site 5 minutes late.i do not think they even can, scalpers use bot nets to slow the site down even the beefiest supercomputer would end up throttled by the connection to the internet, and while they overwhelm the server they can buy the stock, dimensioning for that would require to overall all of the UK (for your case) communication infrastructure. they can mitigate but not prepare fully, and it will be the same for all next gpu launch, a few peoples saw they could make big bank out of that, they will continue...
Buy Now button transferred you to Scan UK shop, which site was immediately slowed down, going to checkout took 40 minutes after it wiped your basket. So there was no way to buy it.
Don't understand how retailer cannot prepare their system for such releases...
Mother****ers.
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6900 XT ??
6900 XT ??well with the hype around it the problem will be the same, scalpers are going cripple the servers to buy them all and sell them at very high profit, the only way to make them stop is to never buy their cards, so that they lose money on dead inventory, but we all know that it will not happen, at worse they need to lose .5 usd per card to sell them faster than hot cakes and that will be largely offset by the money they made before dropping the price.
i may be a tad pessimistic today though, given current world events, and personal life events
historically sony has made quite a few improvement to TV technology, although i have not looked at TV for a while now, and the last was a Trinitron for my playstation and playstation 2 (from what i have read online best screens for them)... so my knowledge may be a bit antiquated :) and all the best things come from japan :)i may be a tad pessimistic today though, given current world events, and personal life events
Tp4 also deeply saddened by the Sharp TV-debacle. Ordered the Sony 65 x750h though, hopefully it wurks gud' Should be here Saturday.
Come on Japangineers, don'fail me nao.
slept right through the 3070 launch, looks like i didn't miss out on a whole lot.
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?I guess you missed the stats on delivery rates (vid below)
Whaat a company rushing an unfinished product to try to undercut the competition, never heard of that (example: intel 10th gen, saints row 4, intel Pentium D) although i do not remember nVidia having to do it.Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?I guess you missed the stats on delivery rates (vid below)
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.
I'm totally convinced at this point these cards were rushed, big time.
No supply, 3rd party vendors (AIBs) not given gpus till last minute, drivers given to testers before AIBs, crashing... I think they knew AMD had something and they rushed this to beat them to market.
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?I guess you missed the stats on delivery rates (vid below)
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.
I'm totally convinced at this point these cards were rushed, big time.
No supply, 3rd party vendors (AIBs) not given gpus till last minute, drivers given to testers before AIBs, crashing... I think they knew AMD had something and they rushed this to beat them to market.
Skip to 32minutes 50 seconds (I tried to link to the time but it doesn't work). Seriously this is bad if you want Nvidia.
do like me, buy a last gen card, i try to get a 5600xt (although being cheap makes it harder than it needs to be...) plenty of stock of those :)
There has been a bit of a surge of Nvidia cards, maybe they held inventory back in case AMD actually has something but most have gone toward system integrators.
Also an MSI factory went up in flames the other day, so I mean, that has to be at least 4 high end Nvidia cards lost.
What worries me is we've been so starved for cards for the last few years (due to inventory and lack of competition) that it could be months before things settle, not having a 3060 is also driving 3070 sales. I really hope AMD delivers, if so they can not only shift the market but would send a lot of cards into the sencond hand market.
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.
I'm hoping for 3070FE before christmas...If you plan on going ITX, AMD will be a lot easier, they're smaller and less heat.
If not, I may catch that 6800, even if its extra money. It would be my first red card... :rolleyes:
Hmm, I heard from Gamers Nexus (IIRC) that they only began manufacturing in August, who was commenting on the narrow timeframes card makers have to design, test (which is hamstrung by Nvidia with their limited pre-release drivers) then produce them. It's kind of crazy how quickly they have to get stuff sorted.Maybe it was that they stopped making 2080s in june... They did something in June.
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.
you are using the opensource or proprietary drivers? the opensource ones will not crash on new kernels as it is built into it but have lesser performances as nVidia does not want to help develop itWe've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.
For what card(s)? My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
Pascal has had few issues w/ Linux installs/distros from my experience, but Newer gens seem to have issues.We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.
For what card(s)? My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
I'm using the proprietary driver I think? Pretty sure it was the only viable option when I did this install years ago.you are using the opensource or proprietary drivers? the opensource ones will not crash on new kernels as it is built into it but have lesser performances as nVidia does not want to help develop itWe've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.
For what card(s)? My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
glxinfo
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
I know I had some bugs even in w10 w/ my 1080ti, but my 1050 was unscathed (which I find weird but hey).Guess I got lucky, must be something advanced they disabled in the lower end cards which they decided to break.
NVIDIA-SMI 455.38 Driver Version: 455.38 CUDA Version: 11.1
I'm hoping for 3070FE before christmas...If you plan on going ITX, AMD will be a lot easier, they're smaller and less heat.
If not, I may catch that 6800, even if its extra money. It would be my first red card... :rolleyes:
If you use Linux, go AMD, F-Nvidia on Linux, it's worse than AMD ever was on Windows.
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.
If you use Windows, it may be a toss-up, AMD drivers have always been less good on Windows but they are working on it. Usually what I found was every other driver was good, and the odds were always terrible, but again, they are working on making them better.
If you're considering the 6800 be sure to check the XT. If you can get the 6800 you aren't far from the the XT, it's another jump from the 3070 but it's a lot more card for little extra. Either is good though and any of these are better than a card you can't even find on shelves. I don't expect Nvidia's supply issues to fix anytime soon, we're already into black November, people always save and try to get a deal this time of year, that means lots of people with money burning a hole in their pocket. It's sort of the perfect storm so keep expectations low.
Above all, wait for reviews.Hmm, I heard from Gamers Nexus (IIRC) that they only began manufacturing in August, who was commenting on the narrow timeframes card makers have to design, test (which is hamstrung by Nvidia with their limited pre-release drivers) then produce them. It's kind of crazy how quickly they have to get stuff sorted.Maybe it was that they stopped making 2080s in june... They did something in June.
They is doin' dx12 Raytracn', asssssuming console gamez will actually push on the feature, Amd should come out of the gate sooonish w/ m0ar rayzes
Waasssaaaa b*tches! :DJELLY @ max
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Next - LG CX48 :-*
Need to pick a HDMI 2.1 cable for these two.
TP, you're the expert, is this one ok (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Y84BY1W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AXZ3JQ1GVFPIF&psc=1)?
Waasssaaaa b*tches! :DJELLY @ max
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Next - LG CX48 :-*
Need to pick a HDMI 2.1 cable for these two.
TP, you're the expert, is this one ok (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Y84BY1W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AXZ3JQ1GVFPIF&psc=1)?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6Zwa0Hm.gif)
Have bought ugreen cables before, they've been good.
IDK if you guys have monoprice, but they take their cable ratings seriously, so if they say it works with 2.1, it will hit those impedance values.
Other companies might just take their shorter cables and say, yea 2.1, but in reality, they're not @ spec
Black Friday and I STILL can't afford a 1070/1080/2070/2080
I was promised sub $300 prices! >:D >:D
970 for another year :'(
Black Friday and I STILL can't afford a 1070/1080/2070/2080
I was promised sub $300 prices! >:D >:D
970 for another year :'(
wait fur 3080rtx
I was promised sub $300 prices! >:D >:DThat was conditional on Nvidia and AMD fixing their supply issues.
how can they fix the scalper issue? AMD seems to have tried but failed, while nVidia just did not even bother and so far same results in both camps. it is in the hands or retailers to be able to fix it, if they even can...I was promised sub $300 prices! >:D >:DThat was conditional on Nvidia and AMD fixing their supply issues.
My understanding is that at this point it's either going to be 3-4 months before resale prices start dropping or it will be closer to 16 months. We may be looking at still another year without a good supply of GPUs.
Stop the scalpers? Easy.Both are fabless now, they have actually very little control over how many can be produced in a given amount of time, and while nVidia launch cards as soon as they have 50 in stock, from what was reported AMD tried to flood the market, and well failed.
Flood the market, that always works.
Everyone wants to blame the bots at the cart but truth is a lot of them never even made it to warehouses, a lot were bought in bulk right at the docks. This is usually miners and small vendors who do this but it does happen. The biggest problem though is simply supply and demand, there is A LOT of demand and a very limited supply. I don't think there has ever been this much demand for GPUs, even during the mining craze people were not spending what they are for new cards, this is just crazy. Mix that with limited supply due to COVID and you have a recipe for exactly what we're seeing. I can excuse AMD for underestimating demand, let's be honest, they haven't reelly been competitive since before the shortages started, much less Covid, and I'm sure their sales numbers reflect that. Nvidia on the other hand had to know, I think they saw AMD's headlights in the rear view mirror and it scared them into a paper launch long before they were ready. Think about this, had AMD launched first and then Nvidia dropped, Nvidia's pricing would be a MUCH larger issue, people would have flat out laughed at the 3090. Instead of AMD being a good cheaper alternative at the top end it would be people saying Nvidia priced themselves out of the market, too late and too expensive.and nVidia did now, they did the nintendo tactic and it worked, even though AMD has cards out everyone wants the lower end nVidia still, it is not the 1st time this happen to nVidia i do not think they were scared at all, just psychology dictate that if a product sells out instantly peoples will want to buy it even more so trickle the supply to make for free very strong advertisement, so it was a good marketing move on their part except if AMD had managed to flood the market but they failed, so nVidia won. and at least on nVidia's side some MSI (i think) employees did pretty much steal all the stock before it was sent out and scalped them on an alternative store (still owned by the same company though).
why would a hardware company cut a deal with btc miners and stiff actual consumers? that is crazyGuaranteed sales, it was like printing money.
I would say I'd boycot nvidia for the foreseeable future (probably 20 years or the firing of their CEO, I have a good memory) and recommend anyone who asks do the same but sounds like they wouldn't care. As such this news is just yet another depressing reminder how futile the life of a no-one is when you're not even worthy of being offered overpriced commodities.
I didn't even know that mining on GPUs is a thing anymore. Didn't they all move to ASICs a while backżfor btc yes but quite a few currencies are impossible to mine on ASIC, some are even only possible to mine on CPU or hdd, so yeah gpu miners still exists and also folding can only be done on C/GPU but i do not think F@H would buy 250k GPUs from nVidia
i do not think F@H would buy 250k GPUs from nVidia
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html
It installs both the afterburner and the rivatuner oscreen display thing, you need both.
this thread title gave me ****ing cancer
In case you're wondering, the RX 6900 XT is at the back...Glad you said - moving a couple of screws, shrinking the logo and adding a tiny arrow pointing at nothing much does nothing to hint at the massive price difference between the two.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JMG51ZL.jpg)
Who's the lucky recipient of your 'old' card?Oh, I'm selling it, already have a buyer and will meet later today (it's morning here in my neck of the woods), I'd offered a good price for it last night (a local unit with local warranty) and it's been snapped up already.
wtb RTX 2070 S :'(
or a 2070, or 1080 Ti, or 1080, or 1070 Ti.... really anything at this point is better than this 970.
wtb RTX 2070 S :'(
or a 2070, or 1080 Ti, or 1080, or 1070 Ti.... really anything at this point is better than this 970.
All my games show max 60fps. Is it dictated by monitor's max fps?Do you have vsync on?
All my games show max 60fps. Is it dictated by monitor's max fps?Do you have vsync on?
All my games show max 60fps. Is it dictated by monitor's max fps?Turn Vsync off if you don't want it locked at 60fps, but if games run smooth with no visual tearing, then leave it be. Back when I had a 60Hz monitor, I'd get >100fps while playing UT3, I didn't have any issue. And now, I have a 144Hz monitor and UT3 runs at >500fps and I still don't see anything wrong with it, and all the time I'd had Vsync disabled.
All my games show max 60fps. Is it dictated by monitor's max fps?Do you have vsync on?
Probably yes
Asus raises prices (https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/kqho5a/it_seems_asus_have_increased_their_msrp_prices_of/) for their Ampere lines.Not just Asus, they all are expected to.
Asus raises prices (https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/kqho5a/it_seems_asus_have_increased_their_msrp_prices_of/) for their Ampere lines.Not just Asus, they all are expected to.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it effects TV, cpus and more as well. It's not an Asus problem it's a fab problem.
[Didn't korea get dat rona under control ?Doesn't matter if labor is back up to 100% if your facility needs to operate at 140% capacity to meet demand.
Hey guys, I haven't followed nvidia's card shortage issue for last month or so - how's the situation?
Are we getting RTX 30x series any time soon, I mean available for normal purchase? How's the production going on?
Do we know anything now?
You can actually buy 3090's easier than almost ANY other card at the moment.i watched yesterday to get a new card, and even the R9 Nano i got 2 years ago for 79 usd now is fetching about 300 to 350 euros in France... if only it was not my only working gpu. could make a good profit :)
I know of a few that are in stock but are local pickup only.
Good luck finding ANYTHING less than a 3090 and has more than 2gigs ram in stock.
Seriously, even 3gb 1060's on the used market are fetching good money. I'm giving serious thoughts to selling my 1070 as I can get almost $500 freaking dollars for the stupid thing. I was angry when they hit $300, then $350, but seriously, $500 for a 1070 is just moronic. I'm planning on putting my 4gb RX 580 back in and use that until I can get a 3060 or 3070 at retail with that money.
I don't understand why the price has gone up , are they going to mining again?
Have you looked at what Newegg?
It's a desert.
I don't understand why the price has gone up , are they going to mining again?Mining, people future-proofing for next gen gaming, supply messed up from the pandemic, people stuck inside and bored, and scalpers on top of the whole show playing their part.
Seems like 1060 6gb is selling between 250-300, 1070 is between 350-450..Pricing varies depending on model, accessories, seller reputation and of course desperation.
Does the 3k series even come in 6gb flavor? I was sure by now we'd have 8gb and 12gb cards. Even my old ass 970s have 6.3060 mobiles have 6gb
Overall, Tp4 glad he's aged out of playing most vidya.I'm afraid I am reaching that point now too.
Overall, Tp4 glad he's aged out of playing most vidya.
lol used 1070s are going for $800-1000+ even the blowers are $750+Unforeseen post-Covid symptom number 63 - increased stupidity?
you can get a 1080ti for the same price as a 1070ti
:confused: what even is this? what is happening?
just peoples that are clueless about PC and prices getting into the hobby, and *******s that are less clueless taking advantage of themlol used 1070s are going for $800-1000+ even the blowers are $750+Unforeseen post-Covid symptom number 63 - increased stupidity?
you can get a 1080ti for the same price as a 1070ti
:confused: what even is this? what is happening?
Even if someone is unlucky enough to have no friends, family or colleagues who know anything a 30 second search would reveal old reviews showing that the new price at the time was less than the used price now - not doing this is only further proof of stupidity to me.just peoples that are clueless about PC and prices getting into the hobby, and *******s that are less clueless taking advantage of themlol used 1070s are going for $800-1000+ even the blowers are $750+Unforeseen post-Covid symptom number 63 - increased stupidity?
you can get a 1080ti for the same price as a 1070ti
:confused: what even is this? what is happening?
Even if someone is unlucky enough to have no friends, family or colleagues who know anything a 30 second search would reveal old reviews showing that the new price at the time was less than the used price now - not doing this is only further proof of stupidity to me.just peoples that are clueless about PC and prices getting into the hobby, and *******s that are less clueless taking advantage of themlol used 1070s are going for $800-1000+ even the blowers are $750+Unforeseen post-Covid symptom number 63 - increased stupidity?
you can get a 1080ti for the same price as a 1070ti
:confused: what even is this? what is happening?
Unforeseen post-Covid symptom number 63 - increased stupidity?just peoples that are clueless about PC and prices getting into the hobby, and *******s that are less clueless taking advantage of them