VERY interested in this, hope this will be available in EuropeLikely the best method will be to order from either of the vendors and ship overseas.
i am really really really interested in this, perhaps more plate materials though pc if you can?I originally decided upon aluminum due to its properties as a firm yet flexible metal, with a balance between acoustics and typing feel. Polycarbonate on a tenkeyless may be too soft combined with the gaskets, allowing for too much flex to the point where the PCB shorts against the inner floor of the case. However, I will look into potentially offering alternative plate materials.
Typing angle?8 degrees if I remember correctly.
Do we have an estimate date of the GB yet?Not yet, but I will be finalizing the design files shortly for a prototype to follow very quickly after.
Interesting, waiting for colors and the PC version if it’s available for this.Polycarbonate will not be available as an option. The material is too soft to handle the internal screw design reliably, and the brittle nature compared to metal goes against the design goal of creating a timeless board.
Any plan for EU vendor?Not as of now, since there is significant logistics work for adding multiple vendors, especially with a limited quantity GB.
Do you have plans to include other plate types?
Do you have plans to include other plate types?Please see this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049) for the initial response.
Very interesting. only WKL avail?Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
EU vendors?
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All I want for christmas is feet better than bumpons
Make a longer ones plz. It makes big difference
What about 8° angle isn’t it a bit steep
As of right now no, due to the complications of logistics with many vendors on a limited quantity GB.
However, the vendor regions aren't a stiff rule, so it should be possible to purchase from either vendor and have it shipped overseas.
Thats unfortunate. For me in the EU shipping from the US for such a heavy board will be incredibly expensive. Same for Asia.I will consider it, but as stated before, it is very difficult to manage, so I cannot guarantee it.
Could you please just consider adding an EU vendor? I really really want this board.
Is the steel weight going to be polished?I am currently planning for differing finishes to match case colors; for example, silver would pair nicely with a matte dark grey coated weight, while a darker color such as grey would pair better with polished steel.
WK is not an option?
Very interesting. only WKL avail?Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Looks great!
Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor!
Can we convince you to offer more plate materials?Possibly; I was considering throwing in a FR4 plate as well since they're fairly affordable to produce. As usual, I'll likely open source the plate file for anyone who wants to make their own.
Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor!As stated earlier, adding vendors to the limited GB makes logistics extremely difficult, but I will consider it.
What's the front height?(https://i.imgur.com/ZFIH700.png)
Seems like ai03 wants a certain plate material. That's cool. We know there's community members who would probably rather wear each other's underwear than use each other's plate material. What if the plate files were posted?Yes, I also do feel that there are people so captivated by the notion of exclusiveness that they fail to see any larger view of a situation.
WKL only?Yes
This looks really neat! Would love to see an angle of it (maybe 30 degrees offset from vertical) to see how the sides play off the form-factor of the top and how much they bow out. (also the top and bottom curvature in a vertical shot would be great)Like this, or a more top-down shot?
This looks really neat! Would love to see an angle of it (maybe 30 degrees offset from vertical) to see how the sides play off the form-factor of the top and how much they bow out. (also the top and bottom curvature in a vertical shot would be great)Like this, or a more top-down shot?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CHFeQaR.png)
That's a great angle too! But yeah more top down I guess was my original intent, to see how the sides kinda "frame" the board, thanks!(https://i.imgur.com/0wBP0UV.png)
Any chance of split backspace?
Is it going to be super limited or more along the lines of other cannonkeys boards like the iron and chimera?I am currently discussing final quantities and such with Cannonkeys and Deskeys; the final number will be posted once that is done.
Would ISO be possible?Unfortunately no, for the layout is locked to the one given in the first post. I suggest buying an iS0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101828.0) for adding an ISO enter if necessary.
Unfortunately no, for the layout is locked to the one given in the first post. I suggest buying an iS0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101828.0) for adding an ISO enter if necessary.:)) :)) :)) can we see renders with iS0 added? :))
If this goes through, would you make a matching numpad someday? Something like Dolphin, Noxary, or TXpad has done before.Possibly, but I doubt it would hit MOQ since it'd be a numpad nearly as expensive as the main board itself.
Would an Alps plate version be a possibility?Unfortunately no, since the internal screw mounts collide with Alps housings.
Completely in ! +1 if numpad is available
Looks like Polaris' big brother! Is this keyboard being made by KBDFans?No; it will be handled by Cannonkeys and Deskeys as described on the first post.
Hello.
This Poduct no Winkyey???
Only Winkeyless?
Very interesting. only WKL avail?Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Are you using a new manufacturer or is it someone who you’ve worked with in the past?Likely someone I've worked with before. I wouldn't trust a random factory to handle the sides.
It's probably too early, but any plans on running this design again in the future but with different layouts?Possibly, but considering the amount of time it took to build just the side for this TKL, it'll take quite some time to redo it for another form factor if at all.
very interested in this. Will there be also EU vendors? And what kind of Firmware will be running on it? QMK maybe?QMK
any chance this could be VIA compatible?I would imagine, yes. Many things with QMK are moving towards VIA.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Yn6QWlR.png)
Is there any chance that we will be getting an EU vendor for this ?
very interested in this. Will there be also EU vendors?
And what kind of Firmware will be running on it? QMK maybe?
Any idea on colors yet?
any chance this could be VIA compatible?
If this goes through, would you make a matching numpad someday? Something like Dolphin, Noxary, or TXpad has done before.Possibly, but I doubt it would hit MOQ since it'd be a numpad nearly as expensive as the main board itself.
He is correct - a numpad is expensive to produce. If you want it matching the sides and back essentially require the same machining but over a smaller area. Thus the charge for the case is in the same range as the case for a TKL. Then you have the MOQ.
Will Andromeda come with internal foams similar to Polaris?
Prototype PCB is in.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CTueeMa.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c5zJWd0.jpg)
Now awaiting the proto case.
Case prototype has finished machining and is now awaiting finishing (bead blast, anodizing, etc).
Maybe we'll see a complete proto in a week or two.
Any plans for a hotswap PCB?
Would the case and pcb have room for mill-max sockets?Any plans for a hotswap PCB?
no
any plans to use this design on a 60% board?
Would the case and pcb have room for mill-max sockets?
+1 for EU proxy
Requests for an EU proxy have gone unanswered...
debating between this and the vega. might do bothThis is the correct answer.
debating between this and the vega. might do bothThis is the correct answer.
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I have answered this question too many times.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849065#msg2849065), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849087#msg2849087)
He has one on his discord.[...]
I have answered this question too many times.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849065#msg2849065), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849087#msg2849087)
You should probably create a FAQ in the main post.
I read the whole thread and a lot of people are asking if it's WKL only. When a question is raised multiple time it should appear in a FAQ.
This will be less time consuming for the readers and for you.
Good news: Additional weights are complete for acoustic comparisons, so the best result can be chosen from the batch.
Bad news: PCBs got lost in transit during shipment from Kevin's place, so they're being manufactured again.
Any chance to have plate files so us ISO users can at least make it separately ?
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601774071964893219/732485863086489661/IMG_20200714_153657.jpg)
Still awaiting the PCB, but preparing the newly arrived prototype for a build.
:eek: reserved
Is this the close-to-final plate design?
...
Also, the PCB has arrived; I will be testing its functionality shortly.
Very interesting. only WKL avail?Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Very interesting. only WKL avail?Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Very interesting. only WKL avail?Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Why do people want WKL and why would you create a keyboard without an important key?
I don’t understand this at all, and it reduces the choice in keyboards so much :(
Not a fan of the rounded profile of Andromeda, especially if it isn't foamed and gasket mounted.Move a long then.
If there was a TKL version of the Polaris, I'd be all in... and if it had a leaf spring plate, even better.
I wish this didn't have WKL blockers, otherwise I'd be all over this. You should offer a version with the full bottom row.If you don't like it, don't get it. Complaining about every aspect of the board isn't going to change things.
Not a fan of the rounded profile of Andromeda, especially if it isn't foamed and gasket mounted.
If there was a TKL version of the Polaris, I'd be all in... and if it had a leaf spring plate, even better.
I wish this didn't have WKL blockers, otherwise I'd be all over this. You should offer a version with the full bottom row.
Final part has been tested; currently shifting to GB preparations.
what would be the price range for this kb?
Is there a final price yet?
Do we know how long the GB will run for?
so is that a no to split backspace?
Can't wait for next week. Never used the new cannon keys queue system before.
Can't wait for next week. Never used the new cannon keys queue system before.
I've taken back to back L's on that system and I gotta say it's the best way to lose a FCFS. Way less stressful.
Seriously though I think it's a great approach, though I don't know the specifics of how the backend works but it's nice to at least have time to add stuff to the cart.
Do we know how long the GB will run for?
It appears to be extremely limited. Cannon Keys has 100 Units at 750 USD. So, I assume it will last about 3 Seconds.
I am just wondering If I should try my luck at Cannon Keys or Deskey, being from Europe.
CK newsletter released this info, today. But havent heard from deskeys, I mean officially.Do we know how long the GB will run for?
It appears to be extremely limited. Cannon Keys has 100 Units at 750 USD. So, I assume it will last about 3 Seconds.
I am just wondering If I should try my luck at Cannon Keys or Deskey, being from Europe.
Wait. Where did you get this info?
Edit: Nvm, just saw his updates in discord ;D
I watched apiary build this board and for $750 I sure hope we don't get an ugly green PCB and gaskets we have to install our selves...Lulwut?
It’s been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps. Being surprised that it’s limited in color choices shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. I personally don’t care about the PCB color. It isn’t seen once built.
It’s been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps. Being surprised that it’s limited in color choices shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. I personally don’t care about the PCB color. It isn’t seen once built.
Where has that been said? I literally just went through the entire topic and there was no mention of that. He even posted pictures of a black proto...
It’s been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps. Being surprised that it’s limited in color choices shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. I personally don’t care about the PCB color. It isn’t seen once built.
Where has that been said? I literally just went through the entire topic and there was no mention of that. He even posted pictures of a black proto...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KbYBDst.jpeg)
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
This looks great, in as well!
Too add to this, black and other darker colors were probably left out because they won't accentuate the sides as well as silver does.This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
That literally makes no sense. Just because I liked the design and didn't state the color didn't mean I didn't have one in mind. As others have stated there were mock-ups shown in black, so I relied on that.
No I don't think that's what's wrong with the community. I think what's wrong with community is that real world market rules don't apply and we're expected to praise any and all work that is done. This isn't being done for fun, its being done for profit. So any work he put in, we are all grateful for, but there also has to be some accountability. Why does a "custom" board that is being sold for $750 offers almost 0 customizability other than picking between silver and gray. Why does it even cost that much to begin with? Break down the costs for us? Even in this non-sense market, explain to me how this will retain value over something like a Keycult, since its nearing that price tag with also a very limited supply?
Did black proto even exist? iirc, only silver and grey proto.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201018/284489472f573e812bfedbc3de21197f.jpg)
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This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
It's mentioned in discord the deskeys batch will be moved to taobao due to high demand from China, is any information on how to join the taobao GB?Will be announced(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201018/9be6d360cd7f1015f8d4e5d18d1f92e1.jpg)
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.
Did black proto even exist? iirc, only silver and grey proto.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201018/284489472f573e812bfedbc3de21197f.jpg)
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Yea, unless this is a really dark gray since I'm not sure pics of the gray were posted. In any case it is what it is. I was just expressing that I was looking forward to the black version of this for a long time and was disappointed. People have to jump with making stupid comments.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601774071964893219/730557498842546237/QFSiK35.jpg)
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.
Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.
Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
Does saying months ago that the board was designed to be Silver with beige keycaps, not mentioning it in this thread at all and then showing pictures of a black proto just months ago mean I'm entitled because I expected a black version? Come on....
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
Does saying months ago that the board was designed to be Silver with beige keycaps, not mentioning it in this thread at all and then showing pictures of a black proto just months ago mean I'm entitled because I expected a black version? Come on....
Did he ever say it was black though? Maybe he did, never saw the post. But if its the same as the photo posted just above this conversation it could be the grey that is also offered in the GB. Hard to tell from that photo.Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
Yeah, I am not down with the PCB either. Looks cheap at this price point. BUT, we also don't know if that is the final PCB since this was a prototype.. and the same goes for the rest of what you highlighted in your post. It's a bit of a double edged sword to show off a prototype, people will comment on every single detail even though its not final yet. But at the same time its hard for us consumers to know what to expect at the end.
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?
As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:This looks great, in as well!
Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.
Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
I watched apiary build this board and for $750 I sure hope we don't get an ugly green PCB and gaskets we have to install our selves...Production PCB will be black.
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.I ruled out black as an option from day 1 as it would not reflect the lighting properly and would kill the benefits of the design.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Why does it even cost that much to begin with?Machining cost and material cost. As simple as that.
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.I suppose I am entitled indeed. Unfortunate that I must enforce upon you the existence of this thread which you could simply dismiss as not fitting your values and close for the sake of spending time doing something more worthwhile than replying to such a topic.
If you ruled out black on day one, can you provide some insight into the proto picture you posted that looked black? Are we to assume that is the grey version? Because it looks black.... Is that how the grey version will look in real life, or does it not reflect how it will look? Because if that is how it will look I don't think anyone who wanted black will be disappointed with that.
If you ruled out black on day one, can you provide some insight into the proto picture you posted that looked black? Are we to assume that is the grey version? Because it looks black.... Is that how the grey version will look in real life, or does it not reflect how it will look? Because if that is how it will look I don't think anyone who wanted black will be disappointed with that.
Because gray, with dark lighting, contrasty lighting, special lighting, and all sorts of lighting, can appear as differing shades of grey, perhaps 50 shades of grey.
I highly recommend testing with a grey anodized piece of aluminum and photographing it in heavily varying lighting conditions to see the results.
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
Designed as a cost-no-object keyboardGetting mad at price tag
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It pains my heart that the community which surrounds the hobby which I enjoy so much is the one which I despise the most.
It also disappoints me that I am not allowed to make what pleases me and to allow a purchasing option for those who wish to obtain a copy of it without coming under heavy criticism.
Alas, it is what it is.
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.
Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.
Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
I'm weak.I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.
Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
Jesus your entitlement is outright disgusting.
Please. Feel free to design your own keyboard.
Then we'll see how "rushed" your **** will be.
You apparently have absolutely no ****ing clue what goes into making a keyboard like this.
How much time, money and sleepless nights a designer has to pour into a project like this for prototyping, solving problems and organizing stuff with vendors.
This was advertised as a "cost no object" keyboard and yet you are here, crying about the pricetag. Do you even hear yourself talking?
But yeah. I'm sure if you design a keyboard everything will be perfectly well planned out with 100 different color options right?
Please just leave this hobby already. Nodody wants entitled idiots like you here... :-X
Tell me about it. So much copy pasta for the future.I'm weak.I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.
Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
This thread is a gold mine
I've only bought from Cannonkeys for 30 day window GBs. How does the rolling raffle work?From my understanding, it works like how sneaker drops work.
I've only bought from Cannonkeys for 30 day window GBs. How does the rolling raffle work?
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.
cut-outs that overlap with switchesApparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works... :confused:
Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.Entitlement.
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.
Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
Jesus your entitlement is outright disgusting.
Please. Feel free to design your own keyboard.
Then we'll see how "rushed" your **** will be.
You apparently have absolutely no ****ing clue what goes into making a keyboard like this.
How much time, money and sleepless nights a designer has to pour into a project like this for prototyping, solving problems and organizing stuff with vendors.
This was advertised as a "cost no object" keyboard and yet you are here, crying about the pricetag. Do you even hear yourself talking?
But yeah. I'm sure if you design a keyboard everything will be perfectly well planned out with 100 different color options right?
Please just leave this hobby already. Nodody wants entitled idiots like you here... :-X
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. People had to go on attack mode after a very simple criticism, and then they get hurt when I explain position. But let me tell you what, even if I was, this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.
I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.
"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.
"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...cut-outs that overlap with switchesApparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works... :confused:
Also:Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.Entitlement.
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....
SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.
This is why its bad to go on assumptions.
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....
SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.
This is why its bad to go on assumptions.
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.
"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.
"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...cut-outs that overlap with switchesApparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works... :confused:
Also:Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.Entitlement.
Relax you're going to pop a vein.
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.
I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.
I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.
Less arrogance -> Give me a time machine so I can check the future so I know when stuff will happen
Better communication -> Discord, as stated in the very first post of the thread
This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏
I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.
What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.
What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.
You do know that the color of a PCB has absolutely nothing to do with the design of a PCB?
That a PCB can very well be already final and finished design but the final prototype was just made in green because that's actually cheaper than any other PCB color?
Probably not but whatever...
I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.
I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.
Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.
I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.
Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.
It matters because as you said, green is cheap and it would be kind of ****ty to get the cheapest option when you are paying for a premium product.
I understand you don't see it once it's in the board. If most people actually felt this way about PCBs though, they would all just be generic green PCBs. They're not though and there is a reason for that, hence my original question about the colour.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board :blank:i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board :blank:i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board :blank:i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
CannonKeys has worldwide shipping.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
Was the color mentioned in the comment with the pictures? No. Means you thought it was x when you had no info on what it actually was and assumed it as fact. Who's fault is that? Yours.It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out what I'm even looking at in the topic?
And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out what I'm even looking at in the topic?
And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
Discords search functionality works pretty well, no need to be so dramatic.It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out what I'm even looking at in the topic?
And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
how big can we make this pyramidQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out what I'm even looking at in the topic?
And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
nice
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
im not sure but sky is the limitQuotehow big can we make this pyramidQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out what I'm even looking at in the topic?
And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
nice
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.
Sure, Duck, LZ and whoever else doesn't have boards with 20 colour options, but they also don't usually make group buys with units in the 3 digits, those designers are within a niche in the hobby itself. I'm glad ai03 made it possible to a greater audience to get into the hobby with the previous boards he's made (mainly talking about the kbdfans collabs), but when you have set such a high standard in terms of quantity and customisibility, I think it's expected for the next boards with similar quantities to be met with such expectations as well.
Jeez I actually don't understand where are those hate from... Sorry for ai03...thank you
First thing first, my friends, this keyboard here, is designed by ai03!!! A I 0 3!!! Do you even understand, or try to understand how big the love he got toward mechanical keyboards and how much effort he put in?? If you haven't heard of what had he achieved, you should. If he chose to do something, there are reasons for it.
Second, did you really understand what is a mechanical keyboard community? Do you understand what does it mean by a community? In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect. And yet, NOT HATE.
We should not bring any hate to the place. I understand maybe some of you are having a bad day, or just a sudden bad mood. And that is fine. But before you send out a comment, would you like to consider are your words hurting anyone in some way? Would you like to try to apprehend a bit more what already has been told? Would you like to try to process what is the intention of the OP? But still, by any means, a meaningful, constructive comment, should always be welcomed.
I can't afford this keyboard, either. But at my perspective, all I do is to appreciate, to admire, to respect, the beauty inside this keyboard. I beleve ai03 didn't make this keyboard to extract money. I also believe that he is not making this keyboard just to please you, or just to satisfied you. If you don't like it, and you got some improvement ideas, please do express it. However, if what you got is just some meaningless rant, or some vague comment, maybe you should keep it and dont sent it out, because you will be embarassing yourself.
Anyway, I still hope this group buy goes alright, I hope who are getting this keyboard will enjoy it, and I hope yall have a good day.
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
the proto pcb was green, i should expect green pcb in production too right
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Jeez I actually don't understand where are those hate from... Sorry for ai03...thank you
First thing first, my friends, this keyboard here, is designed by ai03!!! A I 0 3!!! Do you even understand, or try to understand how big the love he got toward mechanical keyboards and how much effort he put in?? If you haven't heard of what had he achieved, you should. If he chose to do something, there are reasons for it.
Second, did you really understand what is a mechanical keyboard community? Do you understand what does it mean by a community? In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect. And yet, NOT HATE.
We should not bring any hate to the place. I understand maybe some of you are having a bad day, or just a sudden bad mood. And that is fine. But before you send out a comment, would you like to consider are your words hurting anyone in some way? Would you like to try to apprehend a bit more what already has been told? Would you like to try to process what is the intention of the OP? But still, by any means, a meaningful, constructive comment, should always be welcomed.
I can't afford this keyboard, either. But at my perspective, all I do is to appreciate, to admire, to respect, the beauty inside this keyboard. I beleve ai03 didn't make this keyboard to extract money. I also believe that he is not making this keyboard just to please you, or just to satisfied you. If you don't like it, and you got some improvement ideas, please do express it. However, if what you got is just some meaningless rant, or some vague comment, maybe you should keep it and dont sent it out, because you will be embarassing yourself.
Anyway, I still hope this group buy goes alright, I hope who are getting this keyboard will enjoy it, and I hope yall have a good day.
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
No I get that, but the fact that the IC was vague was what lead people to fantasize, I am 100% sure that this would have not happened if the colours were announced at the very start. If it was "made to be silver with beige keycaps" then why was it not explicitly written instead of "TBA" ? Make it clear from the very start. Like I said, people joined a GB of a board that was not pictured, but all the info, apart from how it looked, was available, exactly the contrary this IC.
In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect.
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.
Sure, Duck, LZ and whoever else doesn't have boards with 20 colour options, but they also don't usually make group buys with units in the 3 digits, those designers are within a niche in the hobby itself. I'm glad ai03 made it possible to a greater audience to get into the hobby with the previous boards he's made (mainly talking about the kbdfans collabs), but when you have set such a high standard in terms of quantity and customisibility, I think it's expected for the next boards with similar quantities to be met with such expectations as well.
Sounds like the expectations of yourself and others in this thread are the factor that needs to be checked. What isn't promised isn't offered.
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway
Again, no reason. You thought up something. Colors weren't announced, specifically mentioned as "to be announced" in fact, to repeat myself you imagined something and then complain that your fantasies didn't come true.No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Again, no reason. You thought up something. Colors weren't announced, specifically mentioned as "to be announced" in fact, to repeat myself you imagined something and then complain that your fantasies didn't come true.No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
No I get that, but the fact that the IC was vague was what lead people to fantasize, I am 100% sure that this would have not happened if the colours were announced at the very start. If it was "made to be silver with beige keycaps" then why was it not explicitly written instead of "TBA" ? Make it clear from the very start. Like I said, people joined a GB of a board that was not pictured, but all the info, apart from how it looked, was available, exactly the contrary this IC.
TBA doesn't mean "I'm hiding this info for hype"
TBA means "I haven't finalized this detail yet"
If you went wild in your fantasies about what TBA meant, that's on you not ai03
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway
If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway
If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.
"you're not giving me what I want waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
Imagine keeping this thread so active that it gets pinned at top slot of IC forum for hours upon hours...
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
:blank:No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.
I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway
If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.
"you're not giving me what I want waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
"I'm a fanboy and can't handle criticism waaaaaah"
You can't expect kids that are completely new to this hobby to understand this...I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
what am i reading
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
Imagine keeping this thread so active that it gets pinned at top slot of IC forum for hours upon hours...
Imagine having this thread blow up to this degree over literally 2 people expressing mild criticism towards a group buy lol
i think its hilarious u kids talking **** about aio3. u wouldnt say this **** to him in real life, hes jacked. not only that but he has the freshest board manus, supports gasket mounts and gets featured by the hottest content creators. yall are pathetic lolSemphis copypaste best there is.
BROOOO
I haven't paid $750 for this board yet, but I demand the vendor to bend to my will and make any color I god damn want. I wasted 6 months looking at this black board. God damn it!!!!!!!
BROOOO
I haven't paid $750 for this board yet, but I demand the vendor to bend to my will and make any color I god damn want. I wasted 6 months looking at this black board. God damn it!!!!!!!
I guess I should apologize for expressing my interest in an interest check.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?
What am I even reading at this point?
This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?
What am I even reading at this point?
This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends
Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.
I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it?
I mean I'm not attacking you. I'm just telling it how it is. I'm not upset, and I'm glad your trying to make amends for your reaction. Just tried to give you some more info, to which you reacted by claiming it's nonsense. Not sure how you want me to take that?I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?
What am I even reading at this point?
This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends
Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.
I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it?
Unnecessary attacks from the likes of you escalated this post. I merely expressed my own disappointment at a keyboard I had been looking forward for a long time, and I got greeted with attacks as if I had committed murder.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?
What am I even reading at this point?
This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends
Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.
I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.
Unnecessary attacks from the likes of you escalated this post. I merely expressed my own disappointment at a keyboard I had been looking forward for a long time, and I got greeted with attacks as if I had committed murder.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
I mean it's been less about the principle and more about how you approached it and responded. A cooler head and more leveled approach probably wouldn't have devolved into this.I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?
What am I even reading at this point?
This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends
Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.
I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.
I don't think it's an unreasonable conclusion to draw, that's all. I'm being as reasonable and civil as I can be at this point. I actually really feel bad about being a participant in turning this into what it is.
I'm not saying it's a guarantee or should be expected. I simply don't think it's outlandish to see a colour being promoted and think it could possibly be in the GB. I don't think it's outlandish or crazy to think black will be a possible option in any keyboard GB, especially when I see a picture posted of what looks like a black board. I just don't understand how anyone could act like these are unreasonable things to expect.
Is if my fault for expecting it when nothing was confirmed? Absoultely. But I don't think it's as ridiculous of an assumption as many of you are making it out to be, that is all.
I'm not even mad that black isn't an option btw. This just turn into an argument on priceable rather than this GB in particular.
I mean it's been less about the principle and more about how you approached it and responded. A cooler head and more leveled approach probably wouldn't have devolved into this.I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! :cool:
i am fuming :-X
I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even
it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.
So ya, no reason what so ever.
So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?
What am I even reading at this point?
This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends
Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.
I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.
I don't think it's an unreasonable conclusion to draw, that's all. I'm being as reasonable and civil as I can be at this point. I actually really feel bad about being a participant in turning this into what it is.
I'm not saying it's a guarantee or should be expected. I simply don't think it's outlandish to see a colour being promoted and think it could possibly be in the GB. I don't think it's outlandish or crazy to think black will be a possible option in any keyboard GB, especially when I see a picture posted of what looks like a black board. I just don't understand how anyone could act like these are unreasonable things to expect.
Is if my fault for expecting it when nothing was confirmed? Absoultely. But I don't think it's as ridiculous of an assumption as many of you are making it out to be, that is all.
I'm not even mad that black isn't an option btw. This just turn into an argument on priceable rather than this GB in particular.
"Darn, I thought this was coming in black. Oh well, GL with GB!"
Reasonable, friendly, gets your point across, and saves face.
It's all good though. Everything is an experience to learn from.
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?
Make a black Andromeda
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist lol That was just a joke!
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!
I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!
I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161)
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!
I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161)
Thank you! Is it just me or is it a bit of a blue gray? That does look nice!
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.
Will you have more photos available before the GB?
I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.
Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
I'm here to pretend to complain about the giant mob of 2 people whining, but I'm actually here to bump the IC and get +1 post count (road to puddsy). Also nice rectangle.Only 11,577 posts to go. You’re getting there bud.
"I reccomend not buying something you don't want." -ai03.All I want for christmas is feet better than bumpons
Make a longer ones plz. It makes big difference
What about 8° angle isn’t it a bit steep
I opted for bump-on style feet in this design due to their non-impeding visuals against the case design and isolation performance.
Typing angle will be your preference.
I recommend not buying this board if you do not like it.
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.
I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.
Puddsy with the best quote here. Ai03 is doing great things for the community. I don't want to be on Ai03's ****list though I probably am already.
road to puddsy
Why do you strive to become the Forbidden Name That Must Never Be Spoken?
I'm here to pretend to complain about the giant mob of 2 people whining, but I'm actually here to bump the IC and get +1 post count (road to puddsy). Also nice rectangle.
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
One last update regarding extra part details:Do we have a chance to add after ordering a kit or do extras have to be added at the time of ordering? Excited for sale!
Extra PCB kits (Main PCB, extra daughterboard, and interconnect cable) will be available at 60USD per kit.
Obviously, base kit will include one set of the listed parts.
Extra plates (and corresponding gaskets) will be available in the following variants:
- Aluminum, black (+45USD)
- Polycarbonate, smoky black (+40USD)
- FR4, black (+35USD)
The stock plate included in base kit is aluminum as a very balanced option between sound and feel.
Hi,
Noobie here. Really stoked about this board. May I ask what's the Deskey site for the Andromeda GB? I know its on the Deskey TaoBao store but I can't find the store.
Appreciate if anyone can direct me to the site/page/link.. Thank you.
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that it’s been sold out. I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page we’re I could at least be able to put in my credit card info.
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that it’s been sold out. I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page we’re I could at least be able to put in my credit card info.
and thats your first mistake man, you need to have everything before hand ready for autofill with 1 click checkout
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that it’s been sold out. I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page we’re I could at least be able to put in my credit card info.
and thats your first mistake man, you need to have everything before hand ready for autofill with 1 click checkout
i will win.R ya winnin son?
Make a black Andromeda
Make a black Andromeda
Why do you insist on having a black Andromeda? What if he didn't like how black turned out? Are you projecting?
If anyone wants to give up their spot I'll take it.5k :)) /s
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