[IC] GMK sets interest check and planning

[IvanIvanovich]

I understand why Dolch is popular. It's neutral and looks good on black or white casebody, it's understated but not as plain as beige or black sets. On the other hand Dolch probably is the next easiest one to find after black and beige... though you will get all the extra keys not just 1800 layout and additional languages with new set so there is that which is important.
Personally I want to see handarbeit and Olivetti since those are the only ones I don't already own. All the rest of the pictures are my own... though I do want some additional keys for most to use on other boards but I can be patient.

Whatever wins will be cut from choices for successive rounds until all the choices are worked through before rerun is how I would like to see it go. So everything will get done eventually.

[metafour]

Yeah, having GMK do a Dolch set would allow us to have properly sized modifiers for a consistent look as opposed to having to deal with the short right shift though either an SP moogle or an RGB[Y] set. That's another reason I'm interested in seeing this go through.

[Glissant]

The thought of not having to use moogle kits turns me on.

[baldgye]

The thought of not having to use moogle kits turns me on.

indeed, and as someone who can't really afford to spend $100+ (and being quick enough to grab a set) on a full set of dolch or (beige) caps having them avaliable makes them a good place to start... espcially with all the moogle and lang stuff thats being talked about...

..would be nice to start with something that everyone knows and alreadly likes but can't get ahold of super easily and then move onto the more obscure sets similar to the ones that people have been doing though SP for a while now...

[Glissant]

Exactly. All great points .
And Olivetti needs to get attention. Such a beautiful set .

[jdcarpe]

Somehow I don't think the GMK sets are going to be less than "$100+" for a full set. I was just hoping for something unique (Skidata orange legends on Dolch colorway) that I didn't just pick up on eBay.

[baldgye]

tbh the set I would want the most is a black/white set but with super rounded keys that old terminals used to have... I think I saw one they do in there sample image that was floating about when all this first kicked off

[jdcarpe]

Yeah, I would also like to get a set of sphericals. I could go for some "Commodore 64" white on brown for those.

[epicsilas]

tbh the set I would want the most is a black/white set but with super rounded keys that old terminals used to have... I think I saw one they do in there sample image that was floating about when all this first kicked off

Yes please! These would be great.

[GMC]

Yeah, I would also like to get a set of sphericals. I could go for some "Commodore 64" white on brown for those.

That is a great idea!!

[IvanIvanovich]

I think it will be hard enough to reach 300 moq on cylindrical Cherry we are discussing here. Let's please not even go into sphericals. I won't even go there, someone else can tackle that if they wish.

[baldgye]

I think it will be hard enough to reach 300 moq on cylindrical Cherry we are discussing here. Let's please not even go into sphericals. I won't even go there, someone else can tackle that if they wish.

just a wish for later on

[Alessandro]

More coffee on cream love please!

[agor]

agor

 

[Hak Foo]

I think it will be hard enough to reach 300 moq on cylindrical Cherry we are discussing here. Let's please not even go into sphericals. I won't even go there, someone else can tackle that if they wish.

Actually, I'd argue the exact opposite.  Offer one package of sphericals, only, and it would probably sell well.  With cylindricals, you're often times competing with existing sets in the marketplace and the hundreds of different style preferences, and it splinters any audience.

[IvanIvanovich]

Biggest issues with sphericals, is NO ONE seems to have molds for several keysizes that are needed for current boards. Also generally they are nowhere near as popular. I have only seen spherical buy make it past interest check once so far for GBR4 and even there I am not sure how well it really did.
If someone else wants to pursue it feel free, but I'm not touching that mess.

[blighty]

SPH/TERMINAL                | 11|157|sold out    |$107|Terminal kit (120-126 keys)
SPH/STANDARD                | 32|138|sold out    |$100|Standard kit (101-104 keys)
SPH/STANDARD125             |  8|115|sold out    | $80|Standard kit (104 keys)
SPH/TENKLESS                | 30|108|sold out    | $75|Tenkless kit ( 84- 87 keys)
SPH/TKL                     | 32| 93|sold out    | $61|TKL kit (87 keys)

This should be about how many spherical kits were sold for R4 (# kits ordered/# of keys in kit/amount left). 

[Halverson]

I bought a tkl spherical! Nomnom

[emptythecache]

As did I, but I anticipate hating and selling it.

on topic: Skidata is REQUIRED for my black LZ-GH.

[phetto]

Can I purpose doing a RGB run in the first GB lysol? I'd love you for that and almost everybody will pick up a set.

1.5 mods is a must!

[Alessandro]

Can I purpose doing a RGB run in the first GB lysol? I'd love you for that and almost everybody will pick up a set.

1.5 mods is a must!

I'll distribute them in the UK if you do 1.25 mods aswell.

[Glissant]

I'd distribute all over ds RGBs ).

[phetto]

Glissant my man.

[Glissant]

phetto, my homeslice.

[gojira54]

Excuse me the stupid question but will this eventual group buy key pack fit on my UK layout filco - the spacebar & modifiers? Do GMK make a center stem stepped caps lock?
RGB mod pack would be the icing on the cake as well...

[IvanIvanovich]

Hopefully the KBDmania won't be b!tches and will open their RGB groupbuy for outside Korea, if so there is no reason for us to do it too.
gojira, yes to all but possibly the spacebar. It is still unclear to me whether GMK has (or will have) 6.25 space with a center stem.

[tsangan]

Hopefully the KBDmania won't be b!tches and will open their RGB groupbuy for outside Korea, if so there is no reason for us to do it too.
gojira, yes to all but possibly the spacebar. It is still unclear to me whether GMK has (or will have) 6.25 space with a center stem.

with the recent events regarding GBs in Korea (OTD/KBDmania) I doubt there will be any GBs at all anytime soon

yes on the centre stem 6.25x space

[SmallFry]

Hopefully the KBDmania won't be b!tches and will open their RGB groupbuy for outside Korea, if so there is no reason for us to do it too.
gojira, yes to all but possibly the spacebar. It is still unclear to me whether GMK has (or will have) 6.25 space with a center stem.

with the recent events regarding GBs in Korea (OTD/KBDmania) I doubt there will be any GBs at all anytime soon

yes on the centre stem 6.25x space

What happened recently?  Just curious.

[tsangan]

someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the government

OTD and KBDmania are now both laying low
(ie the old GB threads are now missing, not running new GBs)

[SmallFry]

:/ well that is no fun. Best of luck to them.

[Acetrak]

someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the government

OTD and KBDmania are now both laying low
(ie the old GB threads are now missing, not running new GBs)

Oh boy

[absyrd]

someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the government

Ouch. And it will be absolutely impossible to retroactively collect the % owed by each person from every gb to cover that. Sucks big-time.

[inlikeflynn]

someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the government

OTD and KBDmania are now both laying low
(ie the old GB threads are now missing, not running new GBs)

wow. ouch Best of luck to getting that somehow sorted out

[Halverson]

That's f'd up! Hope somehow it just passes over and they come out unscathed in the end.

[tsangan]

That's f'd up! Hope somehow it just passes over and they come out unscathed in the end.

definitely not passing over sadly

[Alessandro]

Ouch! That's horrible!

[gojira54]

Thanks for the info... dolch set will be nice

[IvanIvanovich]

Not exact but a quick glance there are 200 votes so far with US is highest, followed by German, UK and Spanish for the top 4 which comprise probably around 90% of all votes together. Everything else has between 3 to 20 votes each combined with first and second choices so not a lot really. Things with less than 10 vote was dropped for now.

So more or less I took a leader language and then grouped it with the closer related ones that have some voting presence.

Based on current results, I was thinking to restructure the language packs to:
PACK 1:
US/GB/JP (Roman only) language specific keys
PACK 2:
DE/NO/DK/SF language specific keys
PACK 3:
ES/IT/PO language specific keys
PACK 4:
??/TBD based on need

Will continue to adjust based on voting where needed. You might notice a new addition here (lot of write in votes for) which is JP Japanese layout though will only have latin character. I see many board like that without actual Japanese legend so I can guess it would not be a problem for you.

[IvanIvanovich]

Pricing for 104 set with 400 MOQ €60 / $80. Seeing how majority interest is currently for US ANSI... I think I will make that base and offer one big pack for all the ISO layouts keys that have enough interest. Will get for pricing on that pack once decided what it will contain... and we will go from there. I think this will make more sense than what I was originally proposing and be most cost effective overall for the majority of buyer.
Now all that will stand in the way of getting this done is the MOQ.

[Acetrak]

Understood. Did GMK ever mention an ETA for when they will have a spot open to do full set runs?

You are the man for doing this

[damorgue]

I figure I could try and gather interest in general computer forums or even buy a few extra and try to sell locally to try and help with MOQ. If we all pitch in, I am sure a few extra could be sold outside of these forums. Especially the irregular languages which are really uncommon and where there might be some extra buying potential.

[jdcarpe]

Do it NAO!

[subliminal] Dolch colorway with Skidata orange legends. [/subliminal]

[damorgue]

Would be much easier with some nice examples though, and I have never seen SF-layout doubleshot, ever, not even pictured. I suppose pics of ANSI will do for now.

[emptythecache]

If specific layouts have already been determined, i don't mean to reopen the floor for discussion or ruffle any feathers, but will we see stepped and full touch caps locks? And what bottom row sizes? It would be nice if we could do tsangan kits and regular 1.25 ansi layouts.

[IvanIvanovich]

Refer to the 2nd post for all the keys. That I don't intend to change, only the distribution of some keys into different pack structure.
Maybe not the most ideal example due to the physical layout, but here is a Swedish G80 in this thread. I seem to remember someone owning a white on black Swedish set, but I can't seem to find a photo... or maybe it was Danish...

Schedule... no clue. I still trying to get an answer from them on the modifier and esc packs of when that can start.

[baldgye]

awesome work lysol can't wait for the modd GB

[tinlong117]

Understood. Did GMK ever mention an ETA for when they will have a spot open to do full set runs?

You are the man for doing this

yes, GMK do mention an ETA, around apr/may 2013

[absyrd]

Pricing for 104 set with 400 MOQ €60 / $80.

Almost as good as I had hoped.

[jeroplane]

Are you still leaving the white/beige and Olivetti options in this now that Originative have come out with these sets? Unfortunately they do not have the language packs, however.

[mbc]

Are you still leaving the white/beige and Olivetti options in this now that Originative have come out with these sets? Unfortunately they do not have the language packs, however.

They haven't! They just doing a pre order (similar to a group buy, but with much higher profit ranges)