[IC] Hubble Mira Custom TKL (GB is 3... 2... 1... launched!)

[roostrc0gburn]

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is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.

personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.

thanks again for all your efforts, ninja

There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.

so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?

yes.

Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.

+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique

[Chachal]

If someone want to get rid of his spot, PM me

[loud_asian]

If someone want to get rid of his spot, PM me

me first

[cmd]

If someone want to get rid of his spot, PM me

me first

Get in line bros. Check the stamps. Likely it will just opened with a limit.

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[Data]

Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.

Uh, OK...  Care to explain?

This board has lost nearly all of its identity in the pursuit of making it cheap enough that folks will want to buy it.  I'm surprised people are still lining up to get one -- aside from the MIRA logo it's just another Korean TKL.  No engraved weight.  No cutout.  A neutered logo.  No custom motherboard.  Limited color options.  It's a shadow of the original idea, and you're ****ting on an attempt to bring some of the uniqueness back?

Whatever bro.

[FrostyToast]

 

Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.

Uh, OK...  Care to explain?

This board has lost nearly all of its identity in the pursuit of making it cheap enough that folks will want to buy it.  I'm surprised people are still lining up to get one -- aside from the MIRA logo it's just another Korean TKL.  No engraved weight.  No cutout.  A neutered logo.  No custom motherboard.  Limited color options.  It's a shadow of the original idea, and you're ****ting on an attempt to bring some of the uniqueness back?

Whatever bro.

It's a terrible design decision that would be aesthetically displeasing and add clutter that we tried to remove with the new Mira logo.
While it would add uniqueness to the board, "unique" does not mean it will look good.
Furthermore, the plan is to make a good looking board but one that people can actually afford. There is no point in making a board so expensive that no one can enjoy. As expressed earlier in the thread numerous people still like the design enough to want it.

[Data]

Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.

Uh, OK...  Care to explain?

This board has lost nearly all of its identity in the pursuit of making it cheap enough that folks will want to buy it.  I'm surprised people are still lining up to get one -- aside from the MIRA logo it's just another Korean TKL.  No engraved weight.  No cutout.  A neutered logo.  No custom motherboard.  Limited color options.  It's a shadow of the original idea, and you're ****ting on an attempt to bring some of the uniqueness back?

Whatever bro.

It's a terrible design decision that would be aesthetically displeasing and add clutter that we tried to remove with the new Mira logo.

LOL

What are you even basing this judgment on?  Because I said so?  Have you tried it and rendered it to see how it looks?

[ninjadoc]

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is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.

personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.

thanks again for all your efforts, ninja

There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.

so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?

yes.

Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.

+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique

Honestly I liked the weight too. If you would like to pay for the weight for everyone to have it I will be happy to put it back in the design. A simple plate can be purchased in the correct thickness, cut out, and placed in the case bottom. The original design required a a piece of metal, machined out, and then placed in the case. Seems simple but not really. A machinist can describe the process better but it requires time and time is money.



Think about how many people would not purchase this keyboard at each price point in the survey earlier.

32% said the maximum they would pay is $400
25% said $450
39% said they would pay $475 or more

So, who do I keep happy? Do I try to get this made so everyone who wants one can afford it or do I make it more exclusive and charge $475 or more?
The other option is make a Mira base and a Mira deluxe. If I do that another group will be upset because their Mira is not as nice.
Currently my response is I will wait on the estimate and then take in consideration everyone's concerns and see how much leeway I have  in making changes. As for the binary symbol on the top - that will not happen. Also my CAD person is going to get irritated about  changes and me pestering them so I have to know what I want before I start requesting changes.

[roostrc0gburn]

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is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.

personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.

thanks again for all your efforts, ninja

There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.

so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?

yes.

Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.

+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique

Honestly I liked the weight too. If you would like to pay for the weight for everyone to have it I will be happy to put it back in the design. A simple plate can be purchased in the correct thickness, cut out, and placed in the case bottom. The original design required a a piece of metal, machined out, and then placed in the case. Seems simple but not really. A machinist can describe the process better but it requires time and time is money.

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Think about how many people would not purchase this keyboard at each price point in the survey earlier.

32% said the maximum they would pay is $400
25% said $450
39% said they would pay $475 or more

So, who do I keep happy? Do I try to get this made so everyone who wants one can afford it or do I make it more exclusive and charge $475 or more?
The other option is make a Mira base and a Mira deluxe. If I do that another group will be upset because their Mira is not as nice.
Currently my response is I will wait on the estimate and then take in consideration everyone's concerns and see how much leeway I have  in making changes. As for the binary symbol on the top - that will not happen. Also my CAD person is going to get irritated about  changes and me pestering them so I have to know what I want before I start requesting changes.

ND, thanks for replying. I appreciate the situation you are in. Not trying to make it worse or put pressure on you. Please understand that my opinion is simply that, and you do not have to incorporate everything everyone wants. I make my comments with the full understanding that my preferences are probably too expensive to implement in the final design.

I like the idea of a "deluxe" option for those who want to go all-in   :thumb:

[laughatpain]

I think I was a bit apprehensive on the price exceeding $400 early on. Having seen the different weight cut out (plain vs with the design), I think keeping the uniqueness and the quality of the board high is well worth the price.

Not giving up my spot is paying off. Thanks Ninjadoc for all your hard work

[Wazazaby]

This board looks dope!

[lol]

I like the idea of a deluxe but I won't be holding my breath...

IDK, I'd rather a custom have a little character to it. I'm not sure what the appeal is of putting in $400+ for a clean - or what I'm afraid this keyboard has been heading towards - a generic look. If cost is such an issue but people want a more conservative look surely there are other options out there? As I said earlier, I'd have second thoughts when the likely scenario happens that it's going to be $400 for basically a MIRA logo on a plain black case. Don't get me wrong, I'm confident it'll still be a beautiful board that the majority will be happy with and clearly has had a lot of work put into it but I personally just wouldn't be able to justify the cost.

[Damonskv]

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is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.

personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.

thanks again for all your efforts, ninja

There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.

so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?

yes.

Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.

+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique

Honestly I liked the weight too. If you would like to pay for the weight for everyone to have it I will be happy to put it back in the design. A simple plate can be purchased in the correct thickness, cut out, and placed in the case bottom. The original design required a a piece of metal, machined out, and then placed in the case. Seems simple but not really. A machinist can describe the process better but it requires time and time is money.

Show Image

Think about how many people would not purchase this keyboard at each price point in the survey earlier.

32% said the maximum they would pay is $400
25% said $450
39% said they would pay $475 or more

So, who do I keep happy? Do I try to get this made so everyone who wants one can afford it or do I make it more exclusive and charge $475 or more?
The other option is make a Mira base and a Mira deluxe. If I do that another group will be upset because their Mira is not as nice.
Currently my response is I will wait on the estimate and then take in consideration everyone's concerns and see how much leeway I have  in making changes. As for the binary symbol on the top - that will not happen. Also my CAD person is going to get irritated about  changes and me pestering them so I have to know what I want before I start requesting changes.

Hi, ninjadoc!!! Thank you for the great work. May I suggest you make a poll.  My vote is for making 2 versions. Finger up for "deluxe".

[muon]

Hey, I'm interested in taking someone's spot if anyone's thinking of backing out 

[Bucky]

I have transferred my spot to muon.

[muon]

So stoked 

[loud_asian]

Still looking to pickup someone's spot, PM me if you're looking to back out

[Photoelectric]

What about an option with the double-circle engraving at the front instead of the word "MIRA"?  And it doesn't need to be full disk indents--could just be rounded circle line indents.  Would be a more identifying feature of the design as opposed to just the name, which is a lot like Tgr.  Wouldn't be centered over the ^ arrow key, but rather centered on the arrow cluster.  Kind of like this quick Paint sketch (of course, better scaled and properly centered to look good):



That would be more in line with a symbolic Astronomy theme as opposed to a name (my niece's name is Mirrah).

[ninjadoc]

Just to give eveyone something to look at.


I haven't forgotten you, I'm at the mercy of machine shops. If it was up to everyone in this thread would be typing on a Mira but....it isn't up to me.

[xondat]

Just to give eveyone something to look at.

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I haven't forgotten you, I'm at the mercy of machine shops. If it was up to everyone in this thread would be typing on a Mira but....it isn't up to me.

Looks cleaner. Shame about the weight design!

[ninjadoc]

For all of those that feel like it's idenity has been lost here's a few pictures prior to getting anodized. Angle is still there, base and sides have the unique curve. The back is too narrow to put "Mira" on and would require a complete redesign. I may reduce the size of the plate in the base of the case by 25% - 30%. I like the other plate better

but the slant and the machining of it makes it expensive.


Depending on shipping from the location of manufacture this would currently go off at around $400 - $425 + shipping from me to each of you.


Enjoy the pics.

[diqkiq]

Very nice ninjadoc. Thanks for the pics

[Jokrik]

Love it! Thx for the awesomeness  ninjadoc

[ika]

Can we get a better pic of the side profile? It's kind of hard to tell what the "curve" looks like, I had to do a double-take. Otherwise it looks great!

[Chachal]

Looks dope. If someone want to sell his spot, please PM me

[swimmingbird]

Beautiful work ninjadoc

[loud_asian]

I noticed that the usb cut out has shifted from the left side to the middle right. Was there a change in PCB?

[Hexterdude]

Looking to buy spot if your willing to

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[ninjadoc]

I noticed that the usb cut out has shifted from the left side to the middle right. Was there a change in PCB?

Plan has been to use Leeku's PCB for a long time.

[ninjadoc]

Can we get a better pic of the side profile? It's kind of hard to tell what the "curve" looks like, I had to do a double-take. Otherwise it looks great!

As soon as I get the board I'll get some good pictures. I think it looks good and my contact is very happy with it.

[FrostyToast]

As we are moving towards the beginning of the end, we would like to see how many people are interested in snagging a spot for the Mira buy.
It would be nice to compile a list of all those interested so that we can try to get in as many people as possible.
I will also go back in the thread to collect the names of those who have previously expressed their interest.

Replying here does not necessarily guarantee you a spot, but we will do everything that we can to accommodate as much as possible.

[xondat]

I'm in.

[Chachal]

I'm definitely interested

[raymogi]

Interested.

[HouseofSuffering]

Put me down for one.

Message me on here, reddit or slack under this same username if I make it in and you are ready for payments.

[-musubi]

Interested, even more so if some sort of diffuser element were introduced (or something to utilize the backside rgb LEDs )

[eksuen]

I'm still in.

[tuba section]

I am very interested, thanks!

[duhhey]

interested!!

[daviswalkers]

I assume if we already paid a deposit you don't need our in, but just in case I'm still in.

[loud_asian]

I'm interested in picking up one of these

Also, where can I find more info on the PCB? I saw a reply saying that it was the L3alphas TKL pcb being used, but a google search doesn't really bring anything up

[logomachy]

I'm interested in picking up one of these

Also, where can I find more info on the PCB? I saw a reply saying that it was the L3alphas TKL pcb being used, but a google search doesn't really bring anything up

It's programmed with JigOn
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

[muon]

Just confirming that I am in I took Bucky's spot a couple months back.

[Butter]

I am in.

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[user 18]

I should still have spot 18.

[sitch]

Interested

[diqkiq]

I'm in and I'm #38

[baotung]

Interested.

[xvetter]

Interested 

[roostrc0gburn]

I'm still in - esp. if theanyday would trade me his #32 for my #25