Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:42:02
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68887.0;attach=95869;image)
Colors for the kit are NN (black)/BX (Teal blue) and are done in double shot abs with a DCS profile so that it matches the majority of existing alps caps. Font for the caps will be Cherry.
[attach=1]
The 2 logos for the kit are being generously donated by Nubbinator, njbair and jdcarpe. An ultra huge thanks to you guys for the suggestions and donating to get these done. I sincerely hope that they will be used again in the future for many more custom Alps keycap sets. :thumb:
Nubbinator: 1.25x "Alps" mountain logo. njbair: 1x "Alps" mountain logo.
More
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68887.0;attach=95377;image)
jdcarpe: "Glider" logo (minus the grids)
More
http://www.unixstickers.com/image/cache/data/stickers/hackerEmblem/Hacker-logo.sh-600x600.png
Pricing: (current pledges to MOQ in parenthesis to the right of the pricing - I will be updating this every couple days unless there is no change)
I have added a small amount to the initial costs to cover shipping to me, but they still don't include the paypal and shipping from me.
Infinity Kit (total pledges: 66) Final order #
25 sets $59.16 per set (20)
50 sets $43.22 per set (35) <---- we are here :thumb:
75 sets $37.78 per set (6)
100 sets $35.36 per set (1)
Optional Modifier Kit (total pledges: 54) Final order number
25 sets $13.49 per set (26) <---- we are here (only 4 more pledges to 25 or 50 MOQ to hit our goal)
50 sets $8.99 per set (21)
75 sets $7.65 per set (2)
100 sets $6.77 per set (2)
Ideally, if we can get to the 50 MOQ tier, the pricing will get much better(Accomplished!). The order form is done similar to a Massdrop style of entry for the GB so that we can track where we are on MOQ and help people that are on the fence in case they are worried about the buy not making the tier they want. (Thanks to Mashby and enigcoder for the help).
Current status:
(6/11/15) Preparing invoices
(6/19/15) All invoices sent
(7/13/15) Placed order with SP
Post by: njbair on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:19:44
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:21:37
And to maybe encourage people to sign up, I'll be making some Alps Dollies and maybe some other random Alps cap to randomly be given away starting at the 50 mark. I'll make one cap for every multiple of ten, so 5 at 50, 6 at 60, 7 at 70, with a max of 10 at 100.
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:22:57
Awesome! Am I first to respond?
You were :thumb: Thanks for all of the support in this.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:23:32
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:25:37
I think the wording was a tad confusing where the form calls it the Optional Infinity Kit. It's actually the non-Infinity keys that are optional.
Noted, fixing it now, thanks.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:28:35
NP. I bought two anyway!!I think the wording was a tad confusing where the form calls it the Optional Infinity Kit. It's actually the non-Infinity keys that are optional.
Noted, fixing it now, thanks.
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:06:40
And signed up.
And to maybe encourage people to sign up, I'll be making some Alps Dollies and maybe some other random Alps cap to randomly be given away starting at the 50 mark. I'll make one cap for every multiple of ten, so 5 at 50, 6 at 60, 7 at 70, with a max of 10 at 100.
Awesome! Thank you as well for all of the help on this.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:11:55
Post by: Touch_It on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:38:57
Post by: njbair on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:46:31
And signed up.
And to maybe encourage people to sign up, I'll be making some Alps Dollies and maybe some other random Alps cap to randomly be given away starting at the 50 mark. I'll make one cap for every multiple of ten, so 5 at 50, 6 at 60, 7 at 70, with a max of 10 at 100.
This is awesome. Wish I had some kind of skills to offer here.
Post by: Touch_It on Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:48:23
Thanks
Post by: njbair on Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:19:18
Signed up. My question is how do you see how's u of each set is sold? Also if say I opted for 50 moq and it doesn't hit, will I still be able to buy at the lower moq?
Thanks
Because this is a traditional GB without using a site like PMK or Massdrop, there are really no rules about how it runs other than the honor system. So if 50 sets are accounted for, you're in. If fewer than 50 go, Badwrench could decide to give the 50+ people a chance to buy anyway, but he could also decide just to go forward with the fewer than 50 sets. Make sense?
Post by: Touch_It on Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:42:02
Signed up. My question is how do you see how's u of each set is sold? Also if say I opted for 50 moq and it doesn't hit, will I still be able to buy at the lower moq?
Thanks
Because this is a traditional GB without using a site like PMK or Massdrop, there are really no rules about how it runs other than the honor system. So if 50 sets are accounted for, you're in. If fewer than 50 go, Badwrench could decide to give the 50+ people a chance to buy anyway, but he could also decide just to go forward with the fewer than 50 sets. Make sense?
Yep. Hopefully we just hit 100 sets and no worries :d. Still trying to wrap my head around using these on a Dell at101w. I'm sure I can make it work somehow. Alps boards are very confusing lol.
Post by: rsadek on Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:58:37
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 11 April 2015, 02:58:29
Post by: atectatifern on Sat, 11 April 2015, 06:49:50
Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 11 April 2015, 11:14:24
I really need to find out about the expected availability/timeline of Matias' special Alps->MX balance bars. I hope they land on my desk about the same time as this set!
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 11 April 2015, 11:37:44
Exactly this.Signed up. My question is how do you see how's u of each set is sold? Also if say I opted for 50 moq and it doesn't hit, will I still be able to buy at the lower moq?
Thanks
Because this is a traditional GB without using a site like PMK or Massdrop, there are really no rules about how it runs other than the honor system. So if 50 sets are accounted for, you're in. If fewer than 50 go, Badwrench could decide to give the 50+ people a chance to buy anyway, but he could also decide just to go forward with the fewer than 50 sets. Make sense?
For only being up a day, the support from you guys is much better than expected. Thank you. l dont have an expected ending date, but will be active in here with updates and tracking our numbers.
Post by: njbair on Sat, 11 April 2015, 11:45:01
You're here reading this because you have an Alps board of some kind, or at the very least, some interest in Alps/Matias switches. You probably also have one or more Cherry MX boards as well. Those Cherry boards probably all have different keycaps. But what kind of keycaps do you have on your Alps board? My money says they're stock. Because a good set of aftermarket Alps caps is hard to come by.
Those aftermarket caps on your Cherry board represent one kind of freedom. Freedom to choose. Freedom to express yourself with your color choices, unique layouts and combinations. But ironically, that desire for freedom of expression has enslaved you to the Cherry MX world. Meanwhile, your Alps boards remain faithful and reliable, like a Model T Ford. And just like a Model T Ford, you can have any color as long as it's black.
NOT ANYMORE.
This group buy also comes in one color: BX Teal Blue. But behind that BX blue stands a legion of color choices waiting to heed the call--the call of Alps group buy success. Will you step up and do your part? Will you rise before the world of Cherry MX oppression, proudly fly the Alps flag and join us? Will you risk your wallet to open the doors to a wide world of switch and keycap options for generations to come?
If we succeed, we do so together. And we may emerge with thin wallets, but we emerge with SP DCS Alps modifier keycap sets in our hands. And then, they may take our stock keycaps away, but they will never take...
[attach=1]
OUR FREEDOM!
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 11 April 2015, 12:23:14
Post by: njbair on Sat, 11 April 2015, 12:32:04
Time to update your profile text to Elrick Jr. or Alps Hype Man njbair.
Well someone had to do it, and it's like the middle of the night in Australia right now.
BTW everybody, I cross-posted this on /r/mk (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/328uo4/gb_alps_dcs_infinity_modifier_kit_lets_help_make/). Go upboat it now!!!
Post by: Applet on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:50:28
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 11 April 2015, 14:41:06
This could look really nice with these:
(http://i.imgur.com/8TVARy5h.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8TVARy5)
Post by: njbair on Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:03:22
Tempting...That's right--red, white and BX teal blue keycaps will send ISIS running back to their caves in fear of the pure smell of freedom wafting from your truly decked out Alps board.
This could look really nice with these:
(http://i.imgur.com/8TVARy5h.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8TVARy5)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:45:55
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:51:10
Hush American.Tempting...That's right--red, white and BX teal blue keycaps will send ISIS running back to their caves in fear of the pure smell of freedom wafting from your truly decked out Alps board.
This could look really nice with these:
(http://i.imgur.com/8TVARy5h.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8TVARy5)
The Dutch claimed these colours before you even existed!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3269/2766085436_8bc017d070.jpg)
:p
Post by: NoblesseOblige on Sat, 11 April 2015, 19:13:57
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:19:20
Why get in on this group buy? One word: freedom.
You're here reading this because you have an Alps board of some kind, or at the very least, some interest in Alps/Matias switches. You probably also have one or more Cherry MX boards as well. Those Cherry boards probably all have different keycaps. But what kind of keycaps do you have on your Alps board? My money says they're stock. Because a good set of aftermarket Alps caps is hard to come by.
Those aftermarket caps on your Cherry board represent one kind of freedom. Freedom to choose. Freedom to express yourself with your color choices, unique layouts and combinations. But ironically, that desire for freedom of expression has enslaved you to the Cherry MX world. Meanwhile, your Alps boards remain faithful and reliable, like a Model T Ford. And just like a Model T Ford, you can have any color as long as it's black.
NOT ANYMORE.
This group buy also comes in one color: BX Teal Blue. But behind that BX blue stands a legion of color choices waiting to heed the call--the call of Alps group buy success. Will you step up and do your part? Will you rise before the world of Cherry MX oppression, proudly fly the Alps flag and join us? Will you risk your wallet to open the doors to a wide world of switch and keycap options for generations to come?
If we succeed, we do so together. And we may emerge with thin wallets, but we emerge with SP DCS Alps modifier keycap sets in our hands. And then, they may take our stock keycaps away, but they will never take...
(Attachment Link)
OUR FREEDOM!
Awesome. Love the image at the end.Also, nobeleese, no true ending date as of yet. Next week I will start updating the op with the pledges from the order form so that we can gauge our progress. My hope is to be under 45 days before I close the gb and start sending invoices.
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:16:33
I would love some for my ALPS 60% but as I'm going to use an ALPS plate with ALPS stabs I'm wondering if :)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:21:49
Post by: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:32:25
It uses MX stabilizers, but you should be able to bend new wires if you're using Alps boards.You'll also need those little clips then, right?
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:49:54
It uses MX stabilizers, but you should be able to bend new wires if you're using Alps boards.You'll also need those little clips then, right?
Costar, yup.
Post by: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 13:25:42
Do those generally come with keycap sets? Or where do you get them?It uses MX stabilizers, but you should be able to bend new wires if you're using Alps boards.You'll also need those little clips then, right?
Costar, yup.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 April 2015, 13:32:41
Post by: mashby on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:41:39
Thank you for doing this Badwrench. I know this is a lot of work.
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:49:06
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 13 April 2015, 15:54:44
Also, there is a slight error in the OP.
The logo with the dots is called the "Glider". You put it down as slider.
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 14 April 2015, 14:46:27
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 April 2015, 15:09:47
Does anyone want to call dibs on my dot caps?
Post by: njbair on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:08:29
It's a revolution.
Perhaps you think I'm speaking in hyperbole. Perhaps you don't think this buy is a big deal for the community. Well, to any who would debate me on this issue I say, can you type your arguments on BX Teal Blue modifier keys? Not without this group buy, you can't.
And meanwhile, we scroll through page after page of threads with titles like Post your Topre board and Post your keycaps. But where is the Post your custom Alps keycaps thread?
It's right here:
[attachimg=1]
This is the Age of Keycap Enlightenment, my friends. No more will we stand idly by while our Alps boards suffer a fate of obscurity. Together we rise, and together we will make this buy--and every future Alps keycap group buy--a revolutionary success!
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:12:10
But seriously your words alone should convince people to buy :)
Post by: njbair on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:15:39
Was ready to go to war for this group buy until I saw the broken link for the pic :(.
But seriously your words alone should convince people to buy :)
The broken link is the custom Alps thread. I was going for irony.
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:16:16
Post by: njbair on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:17:58
Clearly that went over my head lol
(http://i.imgur.com/YwgbT16.gif)
Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 14 April 2015, 17:04:40
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 14 April 2015, 17:41:00
When will we know how many people have signed on and whether we've reached the threshold we indicated?
OP will update the first post in the thread. I believe the last update was yesterday.
PS njbair, that describes it quite well :D.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 14 April 2015, 20:01:32
When will we know how many people have signed on and whether we've reached the threshold we indicated?
OP will update the first post in the thread. I believe the last update was yesterday.
PS njbair, that describes it quite well :D.
Exactly. Thank you everyone for all the support so far. I will continue to push this over on DT and in the Massdrop discussion for the Infinity board. If there is someone here that can start something on Reddit, that would be great - I don't Reddit.
Updated OP just now :thumb:
Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 14 April 2015, 20:56:36
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/328uo4/gb_alps_dcs_infinity_modifier_kit_lets_help_make/
It's not my thread BTW.
Post by: njbair on Tue, 14 April 2015, 22:06:11
If you are on reddit please upvote this thread:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70817.0
It's not my thread BTW.
You pasted a link to this thread.
Post by: bcredbottle on Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:34:23
If you are on reddit please upvote this thread:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70817.0
It's not my thread BTW.
You pasted a link to this thread.
lol
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/328uo4/gb_alps_dcs_infinity_modifier_kit_lets_help_make/
Post by: Touch_It on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:43:22
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:47:10
Post by: Buddah on Fri, 17 April 2015, 21:00:45
1. What is the PayPal address supposed to be on the form? Is that the email address associated with my PayPal account?
2. Does anybody have advice on how to get either stabilizer bars (I assume Matias is our best hope) or at least the appropriate wire to try to bend? I have a V60MTS, so I'd need to get costar inserts and Cherry-style Alps thickness wires... I think?
Thanks!
Post by: Hak Foo on Fri, 17 April 2015, 23:24:38
Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:04:26
Post by: njbair on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:41:57
Yeah, you. The one who is reading this thread but hasn't joined the group buy yet. I need to ask you a question.
What are you waiting for?
Maybe you don't like custom keycaps? No, that can't be it. Maybe you already have BX teal blue Alps modifier keys in a curved profile with awesome custom legends? No, that's not it either. Maybe you can think of a better way to spend this kind of money? No, that's definitely not it. So what's holding you back? These BX teal blue Alps modifier keys in a curved profile with awesome custom legends are as nice as they come. There is literally no Alps board that couldn't benefit from this buy.
Maybe you're waiting for some big company to save the day. Maybe that will happen, or maybe not. You don't really have any say-so or control over that. But in this group buy you do have a voice. You do have control. You and I, and everyone in this buy has the power to shape the future landscape of the keyboard community. How many people do you think have said, "I like Alps switches but I don't want to buy a board that I can't get caps for," and end up getting Cherry MX switches instead? Don't you think a few glamour shots of decked-out Alps boards might sway their opinions? Then in turn, come time for the next Alps group buy, there are that many more Alps boards out in the wild.
It's time to break the vicious cycle!
(http://i.imgur.com/8VffGvv.jpg)
Post by: Touch_It on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:43:56
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:46:12
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 19 April 2015, 17:35:21
njbair: #1 Hypeman
No joke. Awesome job njbair!
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 20 April 2015, 18:51:46
Post by: njbair on Mon, 20 April 2015, 19:30:29
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 20 April 2015, 19:45:15
Is anybody promoting this on DT?
I have a thread there. :thumb:
I was just about to bump it, but it just got its first.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 20 April 2015, 20:08:32
Bumping this back up. Still need a lot more support.
I'm kinda surprised that this needs a lot more support. It seemed a good bet.
Post by: rsadek on Mon, 20 April 2015, 21:50:42
That was me, responding to njbair's nudgeIs anybody promoting this on DT?
I have a thread there. :thumb:
I was just about to bump it, but it just got its first.
Post by: jrick on Mon, 20 April 2015, 23:32:03
Post by: Heliosphere on Tue, 21 April 2015, 00:23:58
Post by: jrick on Tue, 21 April 2015, 01:03:43
So, for the stabs situation, would picking up some costar inserts and wire stabilizers from WASD be all that's needed to make these work with a V60MTS? I currently have one (clicky) and another on preorder (quiet click). Eagerly looking forward to getting some nicer caps on them. :thumb:
Alright gonna reply to myself on this one. I don't think this plan will work unless I can source some custom wires. I tried fitting some 2x costar stabs from my other boards into the V60 plate mounts and they were just a tad bit too short.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 21 April 2015, 03:03:38
So, for the stabs situation, would picking up some costar inserts and wire stabilizers from WASD be all that's needed to make these work with a V60MTS? I currently have one (clicky) and another on preorder (quiet click). Eagerly looking forward to getting some nicer caps on them. :thumb:
Alright gonna reply to myself on this one. I don't think this plan will work unless I can source some custom wires. I tried fitting some 2x costar stabs from my other boards into the V60 plate mounts and they were just a tad bit too short.
Yeah, the alps wire is shorter and also a thinner gauge. You will need to either bend your own in the smaller gauge, or wait and see if Matias gets a set done (there was talk of this happening).
Post by: Touch_It on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:42:34
Post by: Touch_It on Sat, 25 April 2015, 18:25:24
Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 26 April 2015, 03:20:01
OMNOMNOMNOM
my sentiments exactly!
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 27 April 2015, 19:36:43
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 27 April 2015, 22:46:00
Post by: spoonypirate on Tue, 28 April 2015, 14:55:01
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:06:24
Did I already put myself down for a set? If not, I need to do so :o
I don't see you on the list.
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 29 April 2015, 10:22:12
Post by: NoblesseOblige on Thu, 30 April 2015, 21:27:07
Post by: Buddah on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:06:12
Thanks!
Post by: Touch_It on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:06:53
Post by: Buddah on Sat, 02 May 2015, 07:27:36
PayPal address should just be your PayPal email address
Submitted, thank you!
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 04 May 2015, 12:32:30
Post by: tungol on Mon, 04 May 2015, 14:32:30
Post by: Applet on Tue, 05 May 2015, 03:11:24
Post by: pizza_is_a_lie on Tue, 05 May 2015, 16:48:04
Post by: Applet on Wed, 06 May 2015, 01:50:40
I need ISO mods else I'd be all over this :(Yes, ISO-mods with the stabilizer style Matias is pushing for the enter-key would be awesome IMO (I hope his will be the standard in the future), hopefully this will be possible in future buys if alps-kits get more popular. I'm joining since I can use most of the caps even tho I'm ISO user and I feel it is important to support this buy since it enhances the likelihood of future buys happening. If nothing else, it's for a good cause. :D
Post by: Touch_It on Sun, 10 May 2015, 22:58:16
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:14:28
I think the last I read, it was set to end at the end of the month ... when I've got basically no money. If it's set to end mid-month, I can afford this set, maybe.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:51:16
I can't remember if I've thrown my hat anywhere into this GB. Can someone who can tell, let me know?
I think the last I read, it was set to end at the end of the month ... when I've got basically no money. If it's set to end mid-month, I can afford this set, maybe.
As of now, I have no ending date. We are roughly half way to meeting our Moq (either 25 or 50).
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 12 May 2015, 23:35:20
I'll just say it publicly so I'm more likely to remember: in for one @ 50# price-point.
Maybe getting this will force me to complete my handwired 60% board, hmm?
Post by: luckynet on Thu, 14 May 2015, 00:56:33
-typed on a V60 matias keyboard yearning for custom keycaps
Post by: sprit on Thu, 14 May 2015, 00:59:49
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 14 May 2015, 02:33:04
wait is there a base set GB that i dont know of or are these supposed to complement those you buy from matias?? anyway , WHERE IS THE PBT OPTION!!!?? btw, if closed ecosystem topre can have custom cheery mx adapters for them why cant alphs, WHY CAN'T ALPHS!!!!
-typed on a V60 matias keyboard yearning for custom keycaps
There is no base set to compliment this set. The colours should work for pretty much any set out there however.
PBT as far as we know is not a possibility with DCS ALPS caps.
The alps mechanism uses a significant portion of the stem as part of its mechanism. That is why ALPS caps have their stem go inside the switch stem instead of vice versa like on MX. MX adapters can only be made possible by adding an mx stem on top of the existing alps stem thus greatly increasing the height.
Post by: theanyday on Thu, 14 May 2015, 09:05:19
Post by: luckynet on Thu, 14 May 2015, 10:42:20
Just ordered my first alps board granted it's an older apple board but either way that adds momentum for me to pick up a set of alps compatible caps. Looking forward to the outcome of this set and possibly most likely picking up a set. This hobby even tho just beginning for me can obviously be quite an expensive hobby. Or life. Yes keyboards are life. :p
get the KBP V60 matias clicky, awesome possum.. typing on one now...
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 14 May 2015, 12:36:29
Post by: rsadek on Sun, 17 May 2015, 08:45:07
Just ordered my first alps board granted it's an older apple board but either way that adds momentum for me to pick up a set of alps compatible caps. Looking forward to the outcome of this set and possibly most likely picking up a set. This hobby even tho just beginning for me can obviously be quite an expensive hobby. Or life. Yes keyboards are life. :p
get the KBP V60 matias clicky, awesome possum.. typing on one now...
Yes! Just want to second that: the v60 clicky is a real joy to use.
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 18 May 2015, 07:47:56
How does the sound of the Matias click compare to Blues?Just ordered my first alps board granted it's an older apple board but either way that adds momentum for me to pick up a set of alps compatible caps. Looking forward to the outcome of this set and possibly most likely picking up a set. This hobby even tho just beginning for me can obviously be quite an expensive hobby. Or life. Yes keyboards are life. :p
get the KBP V60 matias clicky, awesome possum.. typing on one now...
Yes! Just want to second that: the v60 clicky is a real joy to use.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:39:30
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:41:43
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:48:16
I just saw the GB for this now. :O I'm definitely in. :thumb: Gotta support those Alps sets!
Welcome to a month ago Hoff :))
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:48:57
I just saw the GB for this now. :O I'm definitely in. :thumb: Gotta support those Alps sets!
Welcome to a month ago Hoff :))
Status: T-Rekt. Poor Hoofman.
Post by: zombimuncha on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:58:28
The V80 got a ton of good response at Keycon so I'm hoping that coming out soon will push more people to being interested in Alps keycap sets :).
I didn't see alot of discussion of it or a review or anything, for thoae of us who couldn't make it there. Did I miss the thread or something?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:00:10
I just saw the GB for this now. :O I'm definitely in. :thumb: Gotta support those Alps sets!
Welcome to a month ago Hoff :))
Status: T-Rekt. Poor Hoofman.
:'( Seems all too common lately. :P
It's not my fault I've been largely AFK the last month! -_-
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:01:35
The V80 got a ton of good response at Keycon so I'm hoping that coming out soon will push more people to being interested in Alps keycap sets :).
I didn't see alot of discussion of it or a review or anything, for thoae of us who couldn't make it there. Did I miss the thread or something?
I'll post a review soon. I have an engineering sample from KBParadise that I brought there. There is a thread but not a lot of posts in it yet.
Post by: njbair on Tue, 19 May 2015, 17:55:28
The V80 got a ton of good response at Keycon so I'm hoping that coming out soon will push more people to being interested in Alps keycap sets :).
I didn't see alot of discussion of it or a review or anything, for thoae of us who couldn't make it there. Did I miss the thread or something?
I'll post a review soon. I have an engineering sample from KBParadise that I brought there. There is a thread but not a lot of posts in it yet.
Maybe that's because you mention the thread but don't link to it.
Post by: evera on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:15:51
Post by: njbair on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:50:27
My friends, you and I are the Alps pioneers.
Many others have gone before us and fallen. Even some of us in this buy have attempted to settle the Alps GB wilderness, and we've come back with our tails between our legs. But we've nursed our wounds and bounced back, stronger than before. And we're focused--we've got our sights set on one thing.
One Thing. BX Teal Blue modifier key caps from Signature Plastics.
Some buys offer fancy alphas, color packs, layout adapters, and a whole bunch of other stuff. But all of those things add expense. This buy is about keeping it simple, the way the pioneers did things. One thing. You stick to that, and everything else don't mean squat.
[attachimg=1]
Will you join us on the frontier trail? Will you pack up your family and step out on faith with us? Because we need your help to give Alps enthusiasts everywhere a better tomorrow.
Order Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12r6dTCnhFiorBybAQpAcKtBF9okpiZeTE29cF6HUY0s/viewform?usp=send_form%3Eorder%20form%3C)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:55:08
The V80 got a ton of good response at Keycon so I'm hoping that coming out soon will push more people to being interested in Alps keycap sets :).
I didn't see alot of discussion of it or a review or anything, for thoae of us who couldn't make it there. Did I miss the thread or something?
I'll post a review soon. I have an engineering sample from KBParadise that I brought there. There is a thread but not a lot of posts in it yet.
Maybe that's because you mention the thread but don't link to it.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69454.0
Post by: njbair on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:58:31
The V80 got a ton of good response at Keycon so I'm hoping that coming out soon will push more people to being interested in Alps keycap sets :).
I didn't see alot of discussion of it or a review or anything, for thoae of us who couldn't make it there. Did I miss the thread or something?
I'll post a review soon. I have an engineering sample from KBParadise that I brought there. There is a thread but not a lot of posts in it yet.
Maybe that's because you mention the thread but don't link to it.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69454.0
Thanks!
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 19 May 2015, 19:42:55
Great to see we've got some momentum here on this buy today. Assuming Hoff and evera signed up for one set each, added to the count on the home page, we are just 10 sets away from tipping at 50! It's an exciting time to be an Alps enthusiast, blazing a trail through the frontier of Alps keycap group buys. That is, after all, what we're doing--exploring new frontiers. Just like the settlers of old, eschewing the relative comforts of home, pushing westward, braving new challenges, risking their very lives all for the promise of a better tomorrow.
My friends, you and I are the Alps pioneers.
Many others have gone before us and fallen. Even some of us in this buy have attempted to settle the Alps GB wilderness, and we've come back with our tails between our legs. But we've nursed our wounds and bounced back, stronger than before. And we're focused--we've got our sights set on one thing.
One Thing. BX Teal Blue modifier key caps from Signature Plastics.
Some buys offer fancy alphas, color packs, layout adapters, and a whole bunch of other stuff. But all of those things add expense. This buy is about keeping it simple, the way the pioneers did things. One thing. You stick to that, and everything else don't mean squat.
(Attachment Link)
Will you join us on the frontier trail? Will you pack up your family and step out on faith with us? Because we need your help to give Alps enthusiasts everywhere a better tomorrow.
Order Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12r6dTCnhFiorBybAQpAcKtBF9okpiZeTE29cF6HUY0s/viewform?usp=send_form%3Eorder%20form%3C)
Awesome! We are even closer than that, I hadn't updated for 2 weeks. Just did a recount and the op shows where we actually are. A couple people added new orders with more and removed their originals.
Thanks for all the hype njbair, I can't help but picture you like this:
[attachimg=1]
I think when we hit 50 orders (25 and 50 moqs met), I will message those that entered for the higher MOQs to see if they want to join at 50 and then give the buy a couple days for stragglers. Once I close it, I will start collecting (shipping will be included since I will know how much you will be ordering and where it will be going).
Post by: njbair on Tue, 19 May 2015, 19:59:58
MoreGreat to see we've got some momentum here on this buy today. Assuming Hoff and evera signed up for one set each, added to the count on the home page, we are just 10 sets away from tipping at 50! It's an exciting time to be an Alps enthusiast, blazing a trail through the frontier of Alps keycap group buys. That is, after all, what we're doing--exploring new frontiers. Just like the settlers of old, eschewing the relative comforts of home, pushing westward, braving new challenges, risking their very lives all for the promise of a better tomorrow.
My friends, you and I are the Alps pioneers.
Many others have gone before us and fallen. Even some of us in this buy have attempted to settle the Alps GB wilderness, and we've come back with our tails between our legs. But we've nursed our wounds and bounced back, stronger than before. And we're focused--we've got our sights set on one thing.
One Thing. BX Teal Blue modifier key caps from Signature Plastics.
Some buys offer fancy alphas, color packs, layout adapters, and a whole bunch of other stuff. But all of those things add expense. This buy is about keeping it simple, the way the pioneers did things. One thing. You stick to that, and everything else don't mean squat.
(Attachment Link)
Will you join us on the frontier trail? Will you pack up your family and step out on faith with us? Because we need your help to give Alps enthusiasts everywhere a better tomorrow.
Order Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12r6dTCnhFiorBybAQpAcKtBF9okpiZeTE29cF6HUY0s/viewform?usp=send_form%3Eorder%20form%3C)
Awesome! We are even closer than that, I hadn't updated for 2 weeks. Just did a recount and the op shows where we actually are. A couple people added new orders with more and removed their originals.
Thanks for all the hype njbair, I can't help but picture you like this:
(Attachment Link)
I think when we hit 50 orders (25 and 50 moqs met), I will message those that entered for the higher MOQs to see if they want to join at 50 and then give the buy a couple days for stragglers. Once I close it, I will start collecting (shipping will be included since I will know how much you will be ordering and where it will be going).
That makes 46!!! Even better.
And actually, I look more like this:
[attachimg=1]
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 22 May 2015, 23:58:56
Awesome!
Post by: Touch_It on Sat, 23 May 2015, 00:18:39
Post by: Applet on Sat, 23 May 2015, 04:11:26
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:58:20
So, with Touch_It buying in at 50, we have effectively tipped the main kit at the "desired" level? This is great news! :D And with only 4 left (with Touch_It) for the optional kit, it's likely to also tip at 50, lovely. ;DYeah, definetely good news. I am going to keep this open a little longer in hopes of reaching both sets to 50 ( and maybe a couple more on the main as a little buffer)
Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 23 May 2015, 11:55:47
It's a great time to be a fan of Alps keyswitches!
edit: Somebody ought to hype this again over on r/mk and DT. Someone who's good at that sort of thing... ;D
Post by: njbair on Sat, 23 May 2015, 14:41:22
Exciting times! The historic first ever successful Alps keycap group buy is about to drop. The Infinity Keyboard is on Massdrop for another round. KBParadise are making their v60 and v80 with Alps switches. Matias is going to town with promises of PBT keysets in the not too distant future, and already has full ABS sets for sale.I would but I stopped following /r/mk. I got tired of looking at shoes.
It's a great time to be a fan of Alps keyswitches!
edit: Somebody ought to hype this again over on r/mk and DT. Someone who's good at that sort of thing... ;D
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 23 May 2015, 15:18:18
Exciting times! The historic first ever successful Alps keycap group buy is about to drop. The Infinity Keyboard is on Massdrop for another round. KBParadise are making their v60 and v80 with Alps switches. Matias is going to town with promises of PBT keysets in the not too distant future, and already has full ABS sets for sale.I would but I stopped following /r/mk. I got tired of looking at shoes.
It's a great time to be a fan of Alps keyswitches!
edit: Somebody ought to hype this again over on r/mk and DT. Someone who's good at that sort of thing... ;D
I just posted it over there. :thumb:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/370sea/buying_alps_dcs_infinity_modifier_kit_group_buy/
Post by: Paranoid on Sat, 23 May 2015, 16:01:38
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 23 May 2015, 16:21:26
Exciting times! The historic first ever successful Alps keycap group buy is about to drop. The Infinity Keyboard is on Massdrop for another round. KBParadise are making their v60 and v80 with Alps switches. Matias is going to town with promises of PBT keysets in the not too distant future, and already has full ABS sets for sale.I would but I stopped following /r/mk. I got tired of looking at shoes.
It's a great time to be a fan of Alps keyswitches!
edit: Somebody ought to hype this again over on r/mk and DT. Someone who's good at that sort of thing... ;D
I just posted it over there. :thumb:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/370sea/buying_alps_dcs_infinity_modifier_kit_group_buy/
Thanks buddy. I also bumped the GB thread over on DT. Not so good at the hype though.
Post by: njbair on Sat, 23 May 2015, 16:29:37
Prepare to get Alps'd up, everyone! Onward to 75!!!
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 24 May 2015, 13:55:21
Ok guys and gals, here we go. This is the official GB for the Alps DCS Infinity mods kit.
Order Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12r6dTCnhFiorBybAQpAcKtBF9okpiZeTE29cF6HUY0s/viewform?usp=send_form>order form<)Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68887.0;attach=95869;image)
Colors for the kit are NN (black)/BX (Teal blue) and are done in double shot abs with a DCS profile so that it matches the majority of existing alps caps. Font for the caps will be Cherry.
(Attachment Link)
The 2 logos for the kit are being generously donated by Nubbinator, njbair and jdcarpe. An ultra huge thanks to you guys for the suggestions and donating to get these done. I sincerely hope that they will be used again in the future for many more custom Alps keycap sets. :thumb:
Nubbinator: 1.25x "Alps" mountain logo. njbair: 1x "Alps" mountain logo.MoreShow Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68887.0;attach=95377;image)
jdcarpe: "Glider" logo (minus the grids)Morehttp://www.unixstickers.com/image/cache/data/stickers/hackerEmblem/Hacker-logo.sh-600x600.png
Pricing: (current pledges to MOQ in parenthesis to the right of the pricing - I will be updating this every couple days unless there is no change)
I have added a small amount to the initial costs to cover shipping to me, but they still don't include the paypal and shipping from me.
Infinity Kit (total pledges: 58) updated 5/24/15
25 sets $59.16 per set (20)
50 sets $43.22 per set (31)
75 sets $37.78 per set (6)
100 sets $35.36 per set (1)
Optional Modifier Kit (total pledges: 50) updated 5/24/15
25 sets $13.49 per set (24)
50 sets $8.99 per set (22)
75 sets $7.65 per set (2)
100 sets $6.77 per set (2)
Ideally, if we can get to the 50 MOQ tier, the pricing will get much better. The order form is done similar to a Massdrop style of entry for the GB so that we can track where we are on MOQ and help people that are on the fence in case they are worried about the buy not making the tier they want. (Thanks to Mashby and enigcoder for the help).
Post by: trizkut on Sun, 24 May 2015, 14:02:36
Post by: henz on Tue, 26 May 2015, 15:06:23
Post by: njbair on Tue, 26 May 2015, 17:22:52
This is genuine Alps swag, folks. The stuff off legends. Think it over!
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:03:28
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:24:25
Joined up for a set, Just need something to put them on haha
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:58:11
Joined up for a set, Just need something to put them on haha
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
Ah thanks for the link, completely forgot they had Matias switches available!
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:49:39
Joined up for a set, Just need something to put them on haha
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open
Ah thanks for the link, completely forgot they had Matias switches available!
You can also use your choice of alps switches :thumb:
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 22:08:43
Post by: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 22:38:44
Ordered at the 50x tier! Now, do I get an Infinity or wait for a proper modern ANSI 60% plate for a Hasu PCB...
If you're worried about waiting, the Infinity round 3 will almost certainly take longer. I ordered mine towards the end of round 2 in March and still haven't gotten them.
Post by: Touch_It on Thu, 28 May 2015, 22:53:13
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 23:00:25
Ordered at the 50x tier! Now, do I get an Infinity or wait for a proper modern ANSI 60% plate for a Hasu PCB...
If you're worried about waiting, the Infinity round 3 will almost certainly take longer. I ordered mine towards the end of round 2 in March and still haven't gotten them.
I PM'd Hasu to see if I could sneak in a PCB on the recent buy, if he has room. I have blues and greens that need 60% homes, and only standard ANSI looks good to me (I would be tempted by a HHKB Alps layout though...), so I was never sold on the Infinity. Keycap options keep me from the V60. I've been using my fullsize blues all year, it takes up so much room but I don't know if I can easily go back to the MX in my Poker!
Post by: Bull1919 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 18:08:09
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 29 May 2015, 18:11:00
I'm in, I don't even have an ALPS board though :P I guess that's going to have to change.
Awesome. Welcome aboard.
Post by: a-c on Fri, 29 May 2015, 22:55:30
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 30 May 2015, 00:26:06
I read your post on Massdrop. Are the bottom row keys for both the standard and hacker layouts included?
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I was looking at my original drawings when I posted that. This set includes both bottom rows.
Post by: a-c on Sat, 30 May 2015, 00:41:22
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I was looking at my original drawings when I posted that. This set includes both bottom rows.
Thanks, was only planning to use the standard row, but always good to have some flexibility.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:45:55
Post by: scubaste on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:51:12
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 02 June 2015, 17:26:21
I'm in. Glad to be a part of this. :thumb:
Awesome, thanks for joining.
Post by: catdogpaw on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:31:14
I plan to use these on a V60 MTS-Q. I signed up for the full set including modifiers. What else will I need to buy to make this work? I saw some mention of stabilizers etc., but have no clue how that works. Could anyone please list the exact things I will need to buy, and ideally with a link to a reliable vendor? I will *really* appreciate it! I want to make sure I have everything ready for when I get the new keys!
Sincerely,
cdp
Post by: kebby on Wed, 03 June 2015, 13:18:00
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 03 June 2015, 16:09:09
Also lacking a keyboard to put these on but I decided to jump in since I'm interested in checking out something other than MX. :)
You can find some seriously cheap Alps boards. Check out the Dell AT101. They pop up in the classifieds every now and then.
I picked a Unitek with white alps from ebay for like $30 a couple months ago and I've been using it as my desktop daily driver since then! Unfortunately it suffers from big-ass enter disease so I'll have to pick up another when these caps drop :thumb:
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 16:11:13
Also lacking a keyboard to put these on but I decided to jump in since I'm interested in checking out something other than MX. :)
You can find some seriously cheap Alps boards. Check out the Dell AT101. They pop up in the classifieds every now and then.
I picked a Unitek with white alps from ebay for like $30 a couple months ago and I've been using it as my desktop daily driver since then! Unfortunately it suffers from big-ass enter disease so I'll have to pick up another when these caps drop :thumb:
That's part of the appeal of getting into Alps for me. It's much cheaper to get into versus other switches.
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 03 June 2015, 16:27:37
Also lacking a keyboard to put these on but I decided to jump in since I'm interested in checking out something other than MX. :)
You can find some seriously cheap Alps boards. Check out the Dell AT101. They pop up in the classifieds every now and then.
I picked a Unitek with white alps from ebay for like $30 a couple months ago and I've been using it as my desktop daily driver since then! Unfortunately it suffers from big-ass enter disease so I'll have to pick up another when these caps drop :thumb:
Note the at101w will not be natively compatible with these due to stabilizers. With that being said there is a way. I plan on winging it once I get my caps.
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 03 June 2015, 17:14:15
This is great. I'm looking forward to these. In the meantime, I have a noob question:
I plan to use these on a V60 MTS-Q. I signed up for the full set including modifiers. What else will I need to buy to make this work? I saw some mention of stabilizers etc., but have no clue how that works. Could anyone please list the exact things I will need to buy, and ideally with a link to a reliable vendor? I will *really* appreciate it! I want to make sure I have everything ready for when I get the new keys!
Sincerely,
cdp
This is pretty much the answer. You will have to tinker with the stabilizer wire and get some costar inserts (wasd has them). Not 100% a sure fit until someone tries. I put the caps from my chicony (uses costar inserts) on my old at101 and with just a tiny bit of sanding to the bottom of the insert it looks like it will clear the plate at full switch depression. I didnt have the wires to test the bend though.Also lacking a keyboard to put these on but I decided to jump in since I'm interested in checking out something other than MX. :)
You can find some seriously cheap Alps boards. Check out the Dell AT101. They pop up in the classifieds every now and then.
I picked a Unitek with white alps from ebay for like $30 a couple months ago and I've been using it as my desktop daily driver since then! Unfortunately it suffers from big-ass enter disease so I'll have to pick up another when these caps drop :thumb:
Note the at101w will not be natively compatible with these due to stabilizers. With that being said there is a way. I plan on winging it once I get my caps.
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 06 June 2015, 10:52:14
I will close this GB on Monday.
Thanks everyone for the support.
Post by: mashby on Sat, 06 June 2015, 12:25:10
Thanks for all your hard work Badwrench!!!
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 06 June 2015, 20:46:32
Woo hoo!Hopefully the diligence pays off. The support from you die-hards is what is making this happen.
Thanks for all your hard work Badwrench!!!
Post by: geniekid on Sun, 07 June 2015, 08:29:17
We made it!
This is great news! Thanks for not giving up on Alps caps Badwrench. :thumb:
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Sun, 07 June 2015, 08:44:53
Post by: catdogpaw on Sun, 07 June 2015, 09:19:11
I'm new here, so pardon if this is common knowledge. But assuming that all goes well, when should we expect the keys? I have an inconvenient trans-atlantic move scheduled for the fall and want to make sure I request for delivery to the right address.
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 07 June 2015, 11:45:22
Woohoo!
I'm new here, so pardon if this is common knowledge. But assuming that all goes well, when should we expect the keys? I have an inconvenient trans-atlantic move scheduled for the fall and want to make sure I request for delivery to the right address.
Once all the invoices have been paid, I will place the order. From there I am going with the 4-6 week lead of SP plus another week of sorting/packing from me. I will be mailing them as I pack and will go in order of time ordered.
No worries if you move during the wait, just keep me updated and I will make sure to change as needed.
Post by: njbair on Sun, 07 June 2015, 15:19:31
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 09 June 2015, 00:34:25
Post by: Applet on Tue, 09 June 2015, 03:36:31
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 09 June 2015, 19:25:26
Would people prefer to be invoiced with the shipping from me to you now or would it be better to do a second invoice with the exact shipping charges (maybe just international?)
Post by: catdogpaw on Tue, 09 June 2015, 19:51:16
Hello everyone, just a quick update. I am currently waiting for the total shipping price on the caps from SP so that I can get the invoices together.
Would people prefer to be invoiced with the shipping from me to you now or would it be better to do a second invoice with the exact shipping charges (maybe just international?)
Thanks for all the hard work, badwrench. This is my first group buy experience, so I'm gonna pass on opining on that one (either works for me). I'm excited to think about alphanumerics now - which vintage keys will look best with these modifiers?? Time to buy a few alps boards to examine alphanumeric options?
Post by: njbair on Tue, 09 June 2015, 20:14:32
Hello everyone, just a quick update. I am currently waiting for the total shipping price on the caps from SP so that I can get the invoices together.
Would people prefer to be invoiced with the shipping from me to you now or would it be better to do a second invoice with the exact shipping charges (maybe just international?)
I'm not really clear what you're asking here, but I think a single invoice would mean less money spent on PayPal fees, wouldn't it?
Thanks for all the hard work, badwrench. This is my first group buy experience, so I'm gonna pass on opining on that one (either works for me). I'm excited to think about alphanumerics now - which vintage keys will look best with these modifiers?? Time to buy a few alps boards to examine alphanumeric options?
AEK II caps in white. Dell AT101 caps in beige or black. That's the beauty of these teal modifiers. They go with everything! They are the blue jeans of keycaps.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:26:08
Hello everyone, just a quick update. I am currently waiting for the total shipping price on the caps from SP so that I can get the invoices together.
Would people prefer to be invoiced with the shipping from me to you now or would it be better to do a second invoice with the exact shipping charges (maybe just international?)
I'm not really clear what you're asking here, but I think a single invoice would mean less money spent on PayPal fees, wouldn't it?Thanks for all the hard work, badwrench. This is my first group buy experience, so I'm gonna pass on opining on that one (either works for me). I'm excited to think about alphanumerics now - which vintage keys will look best with these modifiers?? Time to buy a few alps boards to examine alphanumeric options?
AEK II caps in white. Dell AT101 caps in beige or black. That's the beauty of these teal modifiers. They go with everything! They are the blue jeans of keycaps.
Should be the same amount as it is just a percentage. I think what I am going to do is invoice the Domestic orders with the shipping since it is a known amount and do 2 invoices for international so that I can get exact rates.
Post by: a-c on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:43:39
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 10 June 2015, 00:34:14
They tack on a $0.30 per transaction on top of the 2.9%. 3.9% for foreign currency.
That's fine by me. I don't mind eating a couple $ to get my rates correct. Worth my peace of mind. Thanks for the heads up. :thumb:
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 11 June 2015, 21:05:52
Post by: Touch_It on Thu, 11 June 2015, 22:36:58
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 18 June 2015, 02:15:13
Post by: Pyrelink on Fri, 19 June 2015, 21:13:01
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 19 June 2015, 21:25:02
Post by: kennardsmith on Fri, 19 June 2015, 21:26:21
OMG alps!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 19 June 2015, 22:49:08
All invoices have now been sent (and many already paid - Thank you!). If you did not get one, please pm me asap, thanks.
Thanks for your hard work! I paid up. :cool:
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:24:55
Post by: Paranoid on Sat, 20 June 2015, 04:00:24
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Sat, 20 June 2015, 04:23:46
Post by: Fullcream on Sat, 20 June 2015, 05:03:35
I really wasn't going to go ahead with this one but njbair made me do it.
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 20 June 2015, 10:53:31
Paid.Glad to have you aboard.
I really wasn't going to go ahead with this one but njbair made me do it.
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 21 June 2015, 14:22:40
Post by: getf on Sun, 21 June 2015, 14:46:17
Post by: njbair on Sun, 21 June 2015, 19:52:53
I really wasn't going to go ahead with this one but njbair made me do it.
Some may call it hype, but I meant every word. And I'm positive you will not regret it.
The future of Alps keycap options is a little brighter thanks to you and everyone else who pitched in. That's the really great thing about getting in on the ground floor. I believe there will be many more successful Alps keycap buys to come in the months and years ahead, but there will never be another first successful Alps keycap group buy. You and I and everyone else here will always be able to look at these teal beauties and remember how we made this happen.
Badwrench, our fearless leader, you will be seeing "post your Alps" threads for years to come, and know that your perseverance made our shared success possible.
Thanks, also, to jdcarpe and nubbinator for contributing designs and funding for the custom legends. You guys made sure this keyset will stand unique well before someone pulls a keycap and inspects the stem and switch underneath.
And finally, thanks to everyone who helped promote the buy by sharing links on other sites, or helped keep the thread alive with your comments. Your efforts to spread awareness helped push this buy over the tipping point and beyond, even onward to a further price break at 50 units!
I hope everyone here appreciates the wonderful sense of community and cooperation manifested by this group buy (even more so than most). In a way, I'm sad it's almost over, because I love that sense of anticipation and I really enjoyed being a part of this thing. I mean it when I say that every time I look at these modifier keys I'm going to think back to this group buy and smile.
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 23 June 2015, 02:12:53
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 23 June 2015, 18:05:28
Paid! :D
ditto.............paid
have been out for awhile :-\
thank you :thumb:
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 23 June 2015, 18:39:49
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 25 June 2015, 02:19:14
Post by: mashby on Thu, 25 June 2015, 17:26:16
Post by: Touch_It on Thu, 25 June 2015, 17:49:45
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 June 2015, 18:02:47
WELCOME BACK FRIENDPaid! :D
ditto.............paid
have been out for awhile :-\
thank you :thumb:
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:02:09
Edit: I just sent out reminders. Once again, if you aren't seeing an invoice, let me know so I can get it to you. Also, to those that stated above (Touch_It), I didn't read that until after I sent the round of reminders - no rush buddy :thumb:
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 03 July 2015, 00:11:32
Post by: Touch_It on Fri, 03 July 2015, 00:15:48
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 06 July 2015, 23:05:17
I would like to get this thing ordered, so hit me up with a pm or email so we can figure out what we need to do, thanks.
Post by: manofinterests on Thu, 09 July 2015, 11:40:32
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 09 July 2015, 12:21:56
If there are people dropping out and still spots available, I'd love to get in on this group buy for both the infinity and optional mod kit. :D. I'm kinda upset I'm just learning about this now haha.
PM incoming :thumb:
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 09 July 2015, 15:27:30
Let the stabilizer-compatibility-induced headaches commence!
Post by: sean on Thu, 09 July 2015, 23:57:53
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 10 July 2015, 01:02:21
I plan on placing the order early next week :thumb:
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:09:06
Post by: zenless on Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:20:32
Ok everyone, we are down to 3 unpaid invoices. I will be sending out a reminder to 2 of them tomorrow and giving them to the end of the weekend to pay (one of them should be paying tomorrow).
I plan on placing the order early next week :thumb:
I'd like to get in line for an unpaid set if possible. Thanks!
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 10 July 2015, 17:51:24
Ok everyone, we are down to 3 unpaid invoices. I will be sending out a reminder to 2 of them tomorrow and giving them to the end of the weekend to pay (one of them should be paying tomorrow).
I plan on placing the order early next week :thumb:
I'd like to get in line for an unpaid set if possible. Thanks!
PM sent :thumb:
Post by: kennardsmith on Fri, 10 July 2015, 18:42:12
Post by: TastaturenAuslese on Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:08:27
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 10 July 2015, 22:07:03
Is it too late to hop on the GB now? =)) HAHAH.
PM sent.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 11 July 2015, 08:34:25
Post by: sean on Sat, 11 July 2015, 21:13:17
Post by: Touch_It on Sat, 11 July 2015, 21:45:48
Post by: njbair on Sat, 11 July 2015, 22:28:49
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 13 July 2015, 14:49:04
Post by: henz on Mon, 13 July 2015, 14:50:32
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 13 July 2015, 14:52:03
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 13 July 2015, 15:24:40
We are officially ordered!
Pretty Things Barbapapa and Fluffy White Rabbit are on reserve for the sorting.
Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 13 July 2015, 15:25:08
We are officially ordered!
[does a happy dance]
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 13 July 2015, 18:35:41
We are officially ordered!
Pretty Things Barbapapa and Fluffy White Rabbit are on reserve for the sorting.
I just got very thirsty reading that. Speaking of wonderful beers, we walked over to Mission Brewery after SDCC and had a cask Dark Seas Russian Imperial Stout with Espresso - so good!
Post by: atectatifern on Mon, 13 July 2015, 18:52:51
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Tue, 14 July 2015, 08:36:18
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 15 July 2015, 07:34:00
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 25 July 2015, 12:24:58
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 25 July 2015, 14:07:32
You guys think this would look better with white or black keyboards?It probably depends on what other keys you want to combine these with. It will probably look great with most combinations.
All I want to know is what it looks like with Cyrilic: :P
(http://i.imgur.com/WWmQr4gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/WWmQr4g)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 26 July 2015, 07:41:45
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 26 July 2015, 16:03:58
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 27 July 2015, 05:30:05
I think it is going to look great with light or dark color alphas. Part of the reason I went with this color was to give it a classic overall look, but still match the vast majority of existing colors out there.
Yea, I have been sloshing around alphas color schemes in my head, and a lot of options potentially can look good.
Post by: a-c on Mon, 27 July 2015, 13:19:33
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps
High MOQ of 500. Hopefully they make it.
Not sure what kind of stabilizers on these. Olivetti will go nice with these blue modifiers.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 27 July 2015, 13:27:36
ALPS ABS doubshot group buy on Massdrop. Black/Olivetti/Dolch
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps
High MOQ of 500. Hopefully they make it.
Not sure what kind of stabilizers on these. Olivetti will go nice with these blue modifiers.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out. The only boards you could use them on are vintage, Matias, Keyboard Paradise, or the Infinity, off the top of my head. 500 is asking a lot, considering the lukewarm interested we have seen so far.
Post by: romevi on Mon, 27 July 2015, 13:29:47
ALPS ABS doubshot group buy on Massdrop. Black/Olivetti/Dolch
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps
High MOQ of 500. Hopefully they make it.
Not sure what kind of stabilizers on these. Olivetti will go nice with these blue modifiers.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out. The only boards you could use them on are vintage, Matias, Keyboard Paradise, or the Infinity, off the top of my head. 500 is asking a lot, considering the lukewarm interested we have seen so far.
What about the Ergodox? I realize all caps won't fit, but is there any way we can get people running an Ergodox GB?
I'm interested in the Infinity Ergodox redrop in September, and I'm planning on getting either Matias Click or Quiet, not sure which yet. I've already ordered the Olivette and Dolch in preparation.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:16:27
Post by: romevi on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:22:35
The odds of an Alps Ergodox set is right up there with me getting my Clackvent caps tomorrow. It's not going to happen.For the switches? Didn't the Infinity version come with Matias as an option? Or are you talking about caps?
Post by: AKmalamute on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:24:34
The odds of an Alps Ergodox set is right up there with me getting my Clackvent caps tomorrow. It's not going to happen.
aww. There are five or six in the wild. Somebody filed one of my aluminum plates out so they could make an ALPSdox. Then recommended no one else do that because wow was it time consuming.
But we've nailed down, I think, the shape of an ergodox-ALPS plate .dxf so, yeah it could happen.
Post by: njbair on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:36:20
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 27 July 2015, 18:13:06
ALPS ABS doubshot group buy on Massdrop. Black/Olivetti/Dolch
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps
High MOQ of 500. Hopefully they make it.
Not sure what kind of stabilizers on these. Olivetti will go nice with these blue modifiers.
Note that those Tai Hao sets are oem profile and this set is DCS (close to cherry height), so they will be off just a bit.
It is cool to see that they are at least on offer, but as said before, that 500 MOQ is out there. This set was up for several months just to hit the 50 MOQ.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 27 July 2015, 20:36:16
Those Massdrop Alps caps look very thin. Probably shouldn't complain for $20, but I personally don't need any more thin ABS keycaps for any switch type.
That thinness isn't helping the case.
Post by: njbair on Mon, 27 July 2015, 21:48:25
ALPS ABS doubshot group buy on Massdrop. Black/Olivetti/Dolch
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps
High MOQ of 500. Hopefully they make it.
Not sure what kind of stabilizers on these. Olivetti will go nice with these blue modifiers.
Note that those Tai Hao sets are oem profile and this set is DCS (close to cherry height), so they will be off just a bit.
It is cool to see that they are at least on offer, but as said before, that 500 MOQ is out there. This set was up for several months just to hit the 50 MOQ.
Depends. I'm pretty sure most of /r/mk believes Massdrop can do no wrong, maybe their blind confidence will help tip the buy. Regardless, I will not be taking part.
Post by: Hak Foo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:15:36
I didn't take part in this for several reasons-- stabilizer compatibility, a poor stylistic match with the rest of the board I use, but most of all the price. You're getting *some modifiers* and it costs as much as a cheap Kailh-switch board from China.
For the same price, the Tai Hao option gives you two complete 104-key sets. A lot can be forgiven for that. (personally-- I LIKE Tai Hao's typography better than SP's if you're not doing spherical caps)
I'm trying to decide if I should go for it or not... I know they won't fit right on my Tactile Pro, but I could potentially build a Leeku 3000 or GH-122 to fit them.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 28 July 2015, 02:20:01
I think a huge part of it is pricing too.
I didn't take part in this for several reasons-- stabilizer compatibility, a poor stylistic match with the rest of the board I use, but most of all the price. You're getting *some modifiers* and it costs as much as a cheap Kailh-switch board from China.
For the same price, the Tai Hao option gives you two complete 104-key sets. A lot can be forgiven for that. (personally-- I LIKE Tai Hao's typography better than SP's if you're not doing spherical caps)
I'm trying to decide if I should go for it or not... I know they won't fit right on my Tactile Pro, but I could potentially build a Leeku 3000 or GH-122 to fit them.
I hear where you are coming from about the price. I worked for a long time to get the most compatibility for the least $$ for my set, but it is difficult when you are doing an uncommon mount. There are too many different layouts (most with that damn big-ass enter) and then the fact that space bars are hard to come by.
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 28 July 2015, 08:36:13
Those Massdrop Alps caps look very thin. Probably shouldn't complain for $20, but I personally don't need any more thin ABS keycaps for any switch type.
My personal opinion is that SP DCS caps are pretty thin themselves, but one can't be too picky when it comes to Alps caps!
Post by: njbair on Tue, 28 July 2015, 11:32:45
Those Massdrop Alps caps look very thin. Probably shouldn't complain for $20, but I personally don't need any more thin ABS keycaps for any switch type.
My personal opinion is that SP DCS caps are pretty thin themselves, but one can't be too picky when it comes to Alps caps!
Yeah I kind of got chastised a bit for this in the Massdrop thread...long story short, I should keep my mouth shut and be grateful for more Alps caps.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 28 July 2015, 15:15:09
Those Massdrop Alps caps look very thin. Probably shouldn't complain for $20, but I personally don't need any more thin ABS keycaps for any switch type.
My personal opinion is that SP DCS caps are pretty thin themselves, but one can't be too picky when it comes to Alps caps!
Yeah I kind of got chastised a bit for this in the Massdrop thread...long story short, I should keep my mouth shut and be grateful for more Alps caps.
You will accept your bread and water, or have nothing at all!
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 28 July 2015, 15:32:54
Post by: kennardsmith on Tue, 28 July 2015, 21:10:05
Post by: rsadek on Wed, 29 July 2015, 00:24:52
I'm buying in to ALPS group buys so that one day I might be able to purchase high-profile spherical sculptured ALPS blanks.Yes, I love it. Playing the long game. Good good. We can't lose :)
Post by: a-c on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:42:10
I'm buying in to ALPS group buys so that one day I might be able to purchase high-profile spherical sculptured ALPS blanks.
KBParadise is taking on 300 sets. So only need 29 to make MOQ.
I guess we can expect to see V60's with these in the future.
Post by: kennardsmith on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:20:16
I'm buying in to ALPS group buys so that one day I might be able to purchase high-profile spherical sculptured ALPS blanks.
KBParadise is taking on 300 sets. So only need 29 to make MOQ.
I guess we can expect to see V60's with these in the future.
HIGH-PROFILE SPHERICAL ALPS CAPS!? WHERE!?
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:21:29
I'm buying in to ALPS group buys so that one day I might be able to purchase high-profile spherical sculptured ALPS blanks.
KBParadise is taking on 300 sets. So only need 29 to make MOQ.
I guess we can expect to see V60's with these in the future.
HIGH-PROFILE SPHERICAL ALPS CAPS!? WHERE!?
Nowhere. Yet.
Post by: newc303 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 13:11:44
ALPS ABS doubshot group buy on Massdrop. Black/Olivetti/Dolch
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps
High MOQ of 500. Hopefully they make it.
Not sure what kind of stabilizers on these. Olivetti will go nice with these blue modifiers.
Note that those Tai Hao sets are oem profile and this set is DCS (close to cherry height), so they will be off just a bit.
It is cool to see that they are at least on offer, but as said before, that 500 MOQ is out there. This set was up for several months just to hit the 50 MOQ.
Depends. I'm pretty sure most of /r/mk believes Massdrop can do no wrong, maybe their blind confidence will help tip the buy. Regardless, I will not be taking part.
MOQ's been dropped to 200 and met! GB is on for them, 1 day left to order.
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:35:52
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:41:36
How different is oem vs dcs. would mixing the sets suck. Or is it negligible and I wouldn't notice too much. Also begs the question of which set would look the best with blue modifiers.
Sorry, forgot that that statement was for MX. I'm not sure about Alps. We'll find out.
Post by: Applet on Sun, 09 August 2015, 11:07:32
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 09 August 2015, 12:23:30
When do we expect SP to have manufactured the keycaps? :)
I was told 4-6 weeks for production and we are currently at 3.5 weeks (order placed on 7/14). I will update the thread when I hear anything.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 09 August 2015, 13:41:18
Sorry, just hyping it, man.
Post by: njbair on Sun, 09 August 2015, 13:49:25
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 09 August 2015, 15:03:07
Does anyone have a set of stock Matias caps to compare profiles against SP DCS? I'm curious how well the profiles will match.
Not right now, but I'll probably need to purchase some here eventually. Got a couple Alps boards that need caps.
Post by: Applet on Sun, 09 August 2015, 15:29:59
Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 09 August 2015, 21:06:00
Does anyone have a set of stock Matias caps to compare profiles against SP DCS? I'm curious how well the profiles will match.
Good idea. I'll wait until these arrive before selling my MQP, and take a few snappy snaps
Post by: njbair on Sun, 09 August 2015, 21:13:20
Does anyone have a set of stock Matias caps to compare profiles against SP DCS? I'm curious how well the profiles will match.
Good idea. I'll wait until these arrive before selling my MQP, and take a few snappy snaps
I actually have a full set of Matias caps. I can probably lay out a row on their sides and take some caliper measurements. Then if someone can do something similar with any SP DCS set we can make comparisons that way.
Post by: deci on Thu, 13 August 2015, 04:11:23
Well hopefully it turned out well so we can get some more alps key caps out there :thumb:
Post by: E3E on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:39:17
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:41:22
EDIT: The extra dollar to be Paypal gifted to Badwrench.
EDIT 2: 2 of my extra sets and 1 of my extra add-on sets have been transferred. I have one more add-on set if anyone bought only the base set and now wants the flexibility of using these mods on a *standard* 60%.
EDIT 3: My add-on set has been transferred. All I have now is one base set and and one add-on and anyone who wants them can wrest them from my cold, dead hands.
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 14 August 2015, 19:35:02
I bought 3 sets to support the GB but I 'm probably not going to use all 3. If BadWrench is okay with transferring orders I'd be willing to let 1-2 go at cost! No wait. That's insane. Cost + 1 dollar.
EDIT: The extra dollar to be Paypal gifted to Badwrench.
I have no problem transferring one of your sets geniekid. PM me and I can let you know the details. :thumb:
Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 August 2015, 16:33:03
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 19 August 2015, 18:36:59
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
Post by: njbair on Wed, 19 August 2015, 21:15:34
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
Awesome news! Can't wait.
Post by: scubaste on Wed, 19 August 2015, 21:18:27
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
My bday is three days later. Sounds like a pretty dope bday present to myself. :p
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 19 August 2015, 21:52:44
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:24:05
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
That's great to hear!
Post by: sean on Thu, 20 August 2015, 21:49:55
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:49:56
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
I hope you're ready for a nice Prairie sour, a nice Pretty Things Russian Imperial Stout, and an awesome local IPA. I'm ready for a mini-sorting party.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:49:16
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
SOMEONE INSERT THAT STEPHEN COLBERT GIF OF GIVE ME.
MY BODY (AND CAPS LOCK KEY) ARE READY FOR ALPS GOODNESS
Post by: zombimuncha on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:54:29
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
Mmmmm - whatnot!
thx for the update bw!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:21:58
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
I hope you're ready for a nice Prairie sour, a nice Pretty Things Russian Imperial Stout, and an awesome local IPA. I'm ready for a mini-sorting party.
Mmmmmmmm.
So when are you buying my plane ticket? :-*
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:24:59
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:41:44
Next step...alphas? A full Infinity set? :D :D :D
Yes, once these ship...we need alphas.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:00:09
I also have some stock Matias caps which I'm hoping will work.
Post by: zombimuncha on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:14:54
(https://i.imgur.com/kFxqOm8.jpg)
Post by: Applet on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:20:30
Post by: E3E on Fri, 21 August 2015, 18:38:26
Post by: njbair on Fri, 21 August 2015, 20:59:16
Post by: rsadek on Sun, 23 August 2015, 04:15:16
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 23 August 2015, 06:23:51
I would definitely buy alphas but I'm almost wondering if we should go for a full 60% set in a complementary color. More options that way.Yes, this would be the smart way to go. It also allows people to join who weren't in on the modifier buy.
Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 23 August 2015, 07:36:40
yeah, there are a lot more V60's out there than V80'sI would definitely buy alphas but I'm almost wondering if we should go for a full 60% set in a complementary color. More options that way.Yes, this would be the smart way to go. It also allows people to join who weren't in on the modifier buy.
edit: Hey, does anybody have a plan for what to do about stabilizer wires? I'm happy to buy some wire and a wire-bender tool for myself, but if there's an easier option I'm all ears. Or am I the only one planning on putting these on a keyboard with Alps stabs?
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:06:55
edit: Hey, does anybody have a plan for what to do about stabilizer wires? I'm happy to buy some wire and a wire-bender tool for myself, but if there's an easier option I'm all ears. Or am I the only one planning on putting these on a keyboard with Alps stabs?
Matias should have some stabilizers for sale soon: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60268.msg1486047#msg1486047
Post by: Applet on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:09:57
EDIT:
OH, I forgot to say yay for shipping estimate, YAY! :D
Post by: E3E on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:25:15
Post by: Touch_It on Sun, 23 August 2015, 09:25:31
yeah, there are a lot more V60's out there than V80'sI would definitely buy alphas but I'm almost wondering if we should go for a full 60% set in a complementary color. More options that way.Yes, this would be the smart way to go. It also allows people to join who weren't in on the modifier buy.
edit: Hey, does anybody have a plan for what to do about stabilizer wires? I'm happy to buy some wire and a wire-bender tool for myself, but if there's an easier option I'm all ears. Or am I the only one planning on putting these on a keyboard with Alps stabs?
What jdcarpe said is probably the solution. I'm putting these on a Dell at101w and decided I'd yolo a solution when they are in my possession. I'm definitely a hands on learner.
Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 23 August 2015, 11:36:01
I bought stabilizers from Matias some month ago (e-mailed them), don't know if it's the kind you need, but they work with my old Alps-plate and Matias type keycaps (MX-type stabilizer holes).
EDIT:
OH, I forgot to say yay for shipping estimate, YAY! :D
Matias (and KBP) use Alps-style stabs (on both plate and keycap-mount) for all keys except spacebar. It sounds like the balance-bars you got are probably the right thing but your suggestion that Matias uses MX style keycaps is making me doubt...
Post by: Applet on Sun, 23 August 2015, 11:47:46
Yes, you are right (had to remove the cap and check). It is indeed apls-style, have mx-style on the spacebar, hence my confusion (only have two stabilized keys). Sorry about that.I bought stabilizers from Matias some month ago (e-mailed them), don't know if it's the kind you need, but they work with my old Alps-plate and Matias type keycaps (MX-type stabilizer holes).
EDIT:
OH, I forgot to say yay for shipping estimate, YAY! :D
Matias (and KBP) use Alps-style stabs (on both plate and keycap-mount) for all keys except spacebar. It sounds like the balance-bars you got are probably the right thing but your suggestion that Matias uses MX style keycaps is making me doubt...
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 23 August 2015, 12:03:34
Sorry for my naivete, as I don't have any real Alps experience (though tons of enthusiastic hopes!). I have an Infinity in the mail. Will the stabilizer wire that comes with the board work off the bat with the stabilizer mounts in this set (MX mount)? I've got no qualms with wire bending myself. I like being resourceful and taking to DIY if I can't find another solution or if DIY is more cost-effective/practical for me. :thumb:
You should be good to go right away - no tinkering required. This set is primarily designed for the Infinity board with other applications being possible with figuring out your specific stabilizer (ie: Matias wires or making your own).
Post by: njbair on Mon, 24 August 2015, 10:13:48
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 August 2015, 11:58:38
edit: Hey, does anybody have a plan for what to do about stabilizer wires? I'm happy to buy some wire and a wire-bender tool for myself, but if there's an easier option I'm all ears. Or am I the only one planning on putting these on a keyboard with Alps stabs?
Matias should have some stabilizers for sale soon: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60268.msg1486047#msg1486047
So Matias now has caps and stabs for sale on the or website. So my thinking is that stabs will work in one of two ways.
1) Use Matias stabs straight up
2) Use a combo of costar inserts and Matias stabilizer wire and housing but not the Matias inserts. The Costar inserts can be bought from WASDKeyboards I think.
I've not been able to test which of these methods works yet though
Post by: Pdub on Mon, 24 August 2015, 13:33:51
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 August 2015, 13:39:50
Any update?
Is there an updated ETA on shipping?
PMK site says Modern Selectric has a production delay something to do with it being SA, which this is not. So are we now before or after Modern Selectric?
I received an email from SP today: Rough shipping date from them to me is 8/27. Well within the 4-6 week lead time. I will turn these around asap and will post tons of pictures and whatnot :thumb:
Still not 8/27 and SP probably won't ship early. I'm guessing were still waiting per the last update.
Post by: njbair on Mon, 24 August 2015, 23:01:19
Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 29 August 2015, 12:14:32
I took a closer look at the keycap profile photo I posted above (thx Jacobolus!) and it looks like most of the apparent difference in height between TaiHao and DCS is at the bottom edge of the keycap. The height from switch top to keycap top is very close to the same. So now I'm thinking these will work quite nicely on all the TaiHao-clad v80's and v60's out there.
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:05:35
The color is exactly how I pictured it, but the hard left capitalized fonts just bug me.
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I'm sorry guys. I feel like I have let everyone down on this. I have gone back on my emails with SP and the font was originally talked about in the first emails, but after that, it was just the small changes we kept making to dial in the set. Even the invoice has no mention of font, and I totally missed that (however it also has no mention of using the mockup font either). I will talk with SP on Monday and see what can be done to fix this. Again, I am super sorry - I didn't even want to post any pictures or even turn on GH. :'(
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:10:15
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:15:58
I know it was SP's mistake since it was supposed to be Cherry fonts and it does look wonky, but I could definitely live with the set if SP refuses to make things right.
Thanks for the kind words. I am so bummed about it and not being able to contact anyone at SP until Monday has my anxiety pegged out.
Post by: scubaste on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:25:20
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:48:10
I can live with it. I think the color looks great. Is that paired with AT101w alphas?Yeah, I am really happy with the color. Alphas are from a chicony.
Post by: kennardsmith on Sat, 29 August 2015, 19:52:18
Post by: njbair on Sat, 29 August 2015, 20:32:59
Post by: E3E on Sat, 29 August 2015, 21:01:52
The color is awesome. And I'm okay with the legends either way. I honestly never thought that hard about legends to begin with.
Seconded. I just think this set is really cool in general, and a wonderful step forward to having more Alps sets produced! I will be rocking this on my Infinity with pride. :D I don't mind the legends at all. When Alpine Winter happens, these will definitely be mixed in!
It's totally on SP's fault though that the legends were not Cherry, but it's okay! Maybe they will remedy the issue, but if not, I do like the set as is. :)
Post by: ninjadoc on Sat, 29 August 2015, 21:08:32
I know it was SP's mistake since it was supposed to be Cherry fonts and it does look wonky, but I could definitely live with the set if SP refuses to make things right.
Thanks for the kind words. I am so bummed about it and not being able to contact anyone at SP until Monday has my anxiety pegged out.
In all honesty I can live with it. I'm happy to just get a set of modifierss that I'm not taking from two or three boards to get a decent color match. Most alps boards I've dug out of an ecycler have "big ass enter" and there goes the mods.....
Post by: sean on Sat, 29 August 2015, 22:13:56
Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 30 August 2015, 02:39:53
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 30 August 2015, 07:32:37
As for the font, I could care less. I actually don't mind bold, strong text legends over more subtle legends. It looks fine to me.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 30 August 2015, 07:48:19
Post by: atectatifern on Sun, 30 August 2015, 09:47:37
Post by: E3E on Sun, 30 August 2015, 10:14:19
I also thought the font was going to be the same as in the render, and I was completely fine with that.
Yep! While I do remember the Cherry font being mentioned, I kept picturing this set with the render's font when imagining the layout on my Infinity. NBD!
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:11:13
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:35:21
Post by: njbair on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:43:46
Thank you everyone for the kind words. I am still going to try to get it fixed, but barring that, it takes away quite a bit of my anxiety with you guys showing me the support with what was received.
Word. I'm really impressed with everyone's responses so far.
I'm interested to see what happens. This is SP's error, but it's an understandable one. If they own up to it, maybe they will offer a partial refund for those who want to keep them as-is. The rest they can probably replace and post for sale in the PMK store. That would make a lot of folks happy who were late to the party on this buy.
Post by: Touch_It on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:46:38
Post by: E3E on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:00:28
Thank you everyone for the kind words. I am still going to try to get it fixed, but barring that, it takes away quite a bit of my anxiety with you guys showing me the support with what was received.
Word. I'm really impressed with everyone's responses so far.
I'm interested to see what happens. This is SP's error, but it's an understandable one. If they own up to it, maybe they will offer a partial refund for those who want to keep them as-is. The rest they can probably replace and post for sale in the PMK store. That would make a lot of folks happy who were late to the party on this buy.
Post by: njbair on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:24:19
If your hypothesis lines up with what SP actually decides to do, I might just have to have both the original font and the Cherry font versions. I mean, it's almost like a misprinted action figure or collectible trading card or comic or something, right? It's a piece of history now, haha. :thumb: There's no way I couldn't have both of them if it came down to it.Thank you everyone for the kind words. I am still going to try to get it fixed, but barring that, it takes away quite a bit of my anxiety with you guys showing me the support with what was received.
Word. I'm really impressed with everyone's responses so far.
I'm interested to see what happens. This is SP's error, but it's an understandable one. If they own up to it, maybe they will offer a partial refund for those who want to keep them as-is. The rest they can probably replace and post for sale in the PMK store. That would make a lot of folks happy who were late to the party on this buy.
Misprint from the very first Alps group buy...I can see that receiving collector attention one day. Then again, usually the things we think will be worth something never will, because everybody else thinks that too.
Post by: E3E on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:46:19
Misprint from the very first Alps group buy...I can see that receiving collector attention one day. Then again, usually the things we think will be worth something never will, because everybody else thinks that too.
Haha, well there is THAT aspect of it too, sure. I just think it'd be cool to have though! A rarity, regardless of worth, especially if Cherry font'd corrected sets are offered on PMK. Definitely something that I want along with the corrected sets if that happens, BUT I'm trying not to get too far ahead of things now. I'm happy with what this is currently though. :thumb:
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:58:27
Regardless, the font works for me as is.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 30 August 2015, 16:39:44
Post by: njbair on Sun, 30 August 2015, 16:54:13
I don't want to be too quick to place blame for this minor mishap, though. If the exact font was not explicitly finalized and confirmed between both parties when the final order was placed, and not specified in the invoice, I don't think there is a clear blame. These things happen.
Regardless, the font works for me as is.
It's been my experience, having spent 8 years in manufacturing, that any time a customer had an issue like this, the manufacturer takes the blame for pulling the trigger on production without clarifying the specifications, even if the prints/designs made no explicit mention of it. Putting legends on a keycap without asking which font to use is a lot like tapping a screw hole in a part without asking the thread size.
That said, any reasonable customer usually recognizes that they could have helped avoid the issue by stating things more clearly, and it's hard to find good vendors so you want to keep them happy with you as a customer. So they'll usually work with the vendor to find a solution that's fair to both parties. In our case, we don't want SP to change their policies or prices for community-run group buys, so we don't want to make unreasonable demands. It's a weird dynamic, though, because their only true customer here is Badwrench, but he also represents the entire community so SP should have an interest in keeping all of us happy.
I think if they offer a partial refund option for those who want to keep the set as-is, then sell the returns on PMK, that would be a fair compromise and nobody could really complain about that. They don't even have to reproduce every key--the custom logo legends and the GEEK HACK key are fine as-is.
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:01:18
Well, if the font was explicitly stated at the beginning and agreed upon and everything else was fine tuning, then yes, it is SPs fault.So, after going back through all my emails it looks like I started with cherry font. During all the fine tuning and changes a new email thread was started since the original was getting too long. In the new thread I left out the font specification. While in the newer thread the order was placed. There was never any mention again of font and the invoice merely said Infinity alps cap set. I see mistakes on both sides with me or SP never confirming font other than when this all first started.
Post by: njbair on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:16:45
Well, if the font was explicitly stated at the beginning and agreed upon and everything else was fine tuning, then yes, it is SPs fault.So, after going back through all my emails it looks like I started with cherry font. During all the fine tuning and changes a new email thread was started since the original was getting too long. In the new thread I left out the font specification. While in the newer thread the order was placed. There was never any mention again of font and the invoice merely said Infinity alps cap set. I see mistakes on both sides with me or SP never confirming font other than when this all first started.
Maybe I should ask for a mockup of some kind before finalizing my order. I have a feeling SP might do this from now on anyway.
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:34:01
This is a lot easier said than done (Nubbinator can confirm). If you have the means though, I would.Well, if the font was explicitly stated at the beginning and agreed upon and everything else was fine tuning, then yes, it is SPs fault.So, after going back through all my emails it looks like I started with cherry font. During all the fine tuning and changes a new email thread was started since the original was getting too long. In the new thread I left out the font specification. While in the newer thread the order was placed. There was never any mention again of font and the invoice merely said Infinity alps cap set. I see mistakes on both sides with me or SP never confirming font other than when this all first started.
Maybe I should ask for a mockup of some kind before finalizing my order. I have a feeling SP might do this from now on anyway.
Post by: Applet on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:17:03
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:21:14
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:15:54
I'm not into the font or how the text is positioned. Definitely would like Cherry font. Looking forward to seeing how SP replies to you Badwrench.
I am not a fan either. I am currently working with SP and will update once I have details.
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:09:46
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:19:56
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 14:43:54
Post by: Applet on Wed, 02 September 2015, 14:48:41
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 02 September 2015, 14:50:25
Thanks for being awesome!
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 02 September 2015, 14:56:22
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 14:57:38
Ok everyone, it looks like SP is going to re-run the incorrect caps. As soon as they know the production schedule, I will be notified. I will update this thread as I get the info. Sorry for the delay everyone.
Thanks Badwrench for all the hard work :D
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:03:35
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
Post by: scubaste on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:07:01
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
Thanks for all your hard work Badwrench. I'm guessing you would have already stated it if you knew, but any idea where this will put the final shipping date roughly.
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:09:00
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
Thanks for all your hard work Badwrench. I'm guessing you would have already stated it if you knew, but any idea where this will put the final shipping date roughly.
No date as of yet. I am hoping not the whole 4-6 weeks again to get it re-done. I am sure they will let me know asap.
Post by: E3E on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:14:54
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
Amazing! Yes, please. I'll take both. I actually really like the mock-up style erroneous set and I'm sure I'll love the Cherry legends too. :D
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:20:53
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:29:50
Woah so basically a2 for 1 deal if we want. Worth the wait for sure. Again thanks for all the work you are doing for this.
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
Amazing! Yes, please. I'll take both. I actually really like the mock-up style erroneous set and I'm sure I'll love the Cherry legends too. :D
Sort of. Keep in mind that the custom keys (alps/slider/GH key/blanks) were all correct, so they will not be remade. It will not quite be a complete second set.
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:31:10
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:57:58
Post by: Applet on Wed, 02 September 2015, 16:28:39
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 02 September 2015, 16:36:20
Sort of. Keep in mind that the custom keys (alps/slider/GH key/blanks) were all correct, so they will not be remade. It will not quite be a complete second set.
Eh, close enough. My keyboards tend to be a little wonky because I type in dvorak and not many sets come with adapter kits. Some mismatched fonts will barely be noticed.
Post by: kennardsmith on Wed, 02 September 2015, 17:12:18
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
thanks for running a great group buy badwrench. I think this is the best possible outcome we could hope for
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 02 September 2015, 18:40:03
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 19:16:38
Great news. What are we going to do with the mistaken sets?
Great news for people that only liked the cherry font. My question (as I am just curious). They made the full run, and shipped them all to you? Or made all the sets and shipped 1 set to you? Or something similar? Also what happens with the incorrectly made set/sets?
Thanks for being awesome!
The sets that were already made are ours. I am planning on shipping them with the correct sets for those that want them. :thumb:
This.
Post by: SJHL on Wed, 02 September 2015, 19:35:51
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 02 September 2015, 20:25:20
Post by: njbair on Wed, 02 September 2015, 20:53:01
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:17:00
thanks, didn't read everything I should have.
No worries at all. I do it all the time.
Post by: sean on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:26:36
Post by: getf on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:40:14
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:52:00
will shipping rates need to be adjusted due to the added caps?
Shouldn't need to be. I bought boxes that were a little large, and they still fit 2 sets of modifiers easily with bubble wrap.
Post by: njbair on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:53:38
will shipping rates need to be adjusted due to the added caps?
Shouldn't need to be. I bought boxes that were a little large, and they still fit 2 sets of modifiers easily with bubble wrap.
Just make sure you pack them in plastic clamshells from GMK so they get that nice, worn-in tumbled look.
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:57:54
will shipping rates need to be adjusted due to the added caps?
Shouldn't need to be. I bought boxes that were a little large, and they still fit 2 sets of modifiers easily with bubble wrap.
Just make sure you pack them in plastic clamshells from GMK so they get that nice, worn-in tumbled look.
Already way ahead of you. I have them all in a large box so that my cat can sleep on them and keep moving them around. She loves them!
jk
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Fri, 04 September 2015, 06:30:33
Post by: Frizer on Sat, 05 September 2015, 16:21:07
This is an unexpected but welcome surprise.
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 05 September 2015, 17:49:23
So we get both sets?Yup. You have the option for both.
This is an unexpected but welcome surprise.
Also, I just received a V60 courtesy of inanis, so I will be playing with the stabilizer wires to see what can be done to get them to work with costar inserts. Looks like rhe width is fine, just need to play with the distance between the bends. I will be picking up some wire on Tuesday and tinkering during the week.
Post by: olijuice on Sun, 06 September 2015, 00:31:42
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 06 September 2015, 10:45:55
Caps work on the V60. I went looking through my old boards for one with the same gauge stabilizer wires and came across an old Compaq rubber dome. The width of the bends was narrower, but that actually worked out better since upon straightening, the side arms ended up shorter (what I wanted), and it was just a matter of dialing in the angle to make sure that the switch can go through its stroke without binding. The only wire I couldn't scavenge was the one for the right shift key. The Matias uses a really long one that is almost as wide as the cap. I ended up just modifying the stocker. It is just a hair off on the right side and I plan on redoing it once I source some wire.
One thing of note. The stock Matias caps have the stem slightly recessed while the SP caps have it pretty much flush. Rows 1-3 are pretty similar in height, but row 4 (Z row) is a bit different.
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Post by: SJHL on Sun, 06 September 2015, 22:48:43
Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 07 September 2015, 00:08:43
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Caps work on the V60. I went looking through my old boards for one with the same gauge stabilizer wires and came across an old Compaq rubber dome. The width of the bends was narrower, but that actually worked out better since upon straightening, the side arms ended up shorter (what I wanted), and it was just a matter of dialing in the angle to make sure that the switch can go through its stroke without binding. The only wire I couldn't scavenge was the one for the right shift key. The Matias uses a really long one that is almost as wide as the cap. I ended up just modifying the stocker. It is just a hair off on the right side and I plan on redoing it once I source some wire.
One thing of note. The stock Matias caps have the stem slightly recessed while the SP caps have it pretty much flush. Rows 1-3 are pretty similar in height, but row 4 (Z row) is a bit different.
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That's great, Badwrench. Can you please post the height of the "new" wires, so those of us making our own won't need to resort to trial an error?
Thx!
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 07 September 2015, 00:32:43
Show Image(http://techiegiveways.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/18271-good-news-everyone-i-was-just-kidding-professor-farnsworth-wallpaper-1280x1280-1-750x410.jpg)
Caps work on the V60. I went looking through my old boards for one with the same gauge stabilizer wires and came across an old Compaq rubber dome. The width of the bends was narrower, but that actually worked out better since upon straightening, the side arms ended up shorter (what I wanted), and it was just a matter of dialing in the angle to make sure that the switch can go through its stroke without binding. The only wire I couldn't scavenge was the one for the right shift key. The Matias uses a really long one that is almost as wide as the cap. I ended up just modifying the stocker. It is just a hair off on the right side and I plan on redoing it once I source some wire.
One thing of note. The stock Matias caps have the stem slightly recessed while the SP caps have it pretty much flush. Rows 1-3 are pretty similar in height, but row 4 (Z row) is a bit different.
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That's great, Badwrench. Can you please post the height of the "new" wires, so those of us making our own won't need to resort to trial an error?
Thx!
Sure thing. Once I get some wire and make the new one for the right shift, I will take them out and measure them up.
Post by: TastaturenAuslese on Tue, 08 September 2015, 17:37:58
Post by: U47 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:29:16
Aside: is there anywhere one can find a 6u Alps spacebar (to make a perfect HHKB layout)? All the sets I see have 6.25u bars. :/
Or should I just hold out hope for the Alpine Winter set?
Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:32:32
I can't wait for these mods.
Aside: is there anywhere one can find a 6u Alps spacebar (to make a perfect HHKB layout)? All the sets I see have 6.25u bars. :/
Or should I just hold out hope for the Alpine Winter set?
Waiting will be the only stock option, I think. Aside from buying some key caps from an Alps Infinity, but then those would be DSA. I bought a pair of 6u DCS MX-compatible spacebars in black from SP (as they have listed on PMK) and plan on doing a stem swap mod on one of them. Glad they come in two packs, just in case I mess up. :-X
Post by: njbair on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:40:51
I can't wait for these mods.This right here is a huge part of why I'm doing Alpine Winter. You can barely find a 6U Cherry spacebar, let alone Alps.
Aside: is there anywhere one can find a 6u Alps spacebar (to make a perfect HHKB layout)? All the sets I see have 6.25u bars. :/
Or should I just hold out hope for the Alpine Winter set?
Post by: U47 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:42:02
Waiting will be the only stock option, I think. Aside from buying some key caps from an Alps Infinity, but then those would be DSA. I bought a pair of 6u DCS MX-compatible spacebars in black from SP (as they have listed on PMK) and plan on doing a stem swap mod on one of them. Glad they come in two packs, just in case I mess up. :-X
Yeah, I have an Infinity set, but I got the non-hacker plate (idiot!). Not the end of the world because I would need a custom plate anyway (that doesn't have the non-HHKB switch cuts). Not sure if it has both spacebars amongst the caps, but I don't think I could live with DSA.
Thanks for the confirmation, though. Update us on how that stem swap mod goes!
Post by: U47 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:47:17
I can't wait for these mods.This right here is a huge part of why I'm doing Alpine Winter. You can barely find a 6U Cherry spacebar, let alone Alps.
Aside: is there anywhere one can find a 6u Alps spacebar (to make a perfect HHKB layout)? All the sets I see have 6.25u bars. :/
Or should I just hold out hope for the Alpine Winter set?
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Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:57:11
Waiting will be the only stock option, I think. Aside from buying some key caps from an Alps Infinity, but then those would be DSA. I bought a pair of 6u DCS MX-compatible spacebars in black from SP (as they have listed on PMK) and plan on doing a stem swap mod on one of them. Glad they come in two packs, just in case I mess up. :-X
Yeah, I have an Infinity set, but I got the non-hacker plate (idiot!). Not the end of the world because I would need a custom plate anyway (that doesn't have the non-HHKB switch cuts). Not sure if it has both spacebars amongst the caps, but I don't think I could live with DSA.
Thanks for the confirmation, though. Update us on how that stem swap mod goes!
Will do! I have a lot of fun ideas for my Infinity. Mine is indeed the hacker layout variety, which already seems uncommon, but even more so in the original bent case variety (which I fell in love at first sight). Took a bit of searching to finally find one! I think you guys will like what I have in mind, unless, again, I seriously screw up. Haha. Hoping to pull through and post my build log on here. The bent case infinity might be my favorite, but it's so minimalist, that I wanted to do something to make it just a little more unique and practical.
Yeah, the hacker layout seemed very unpopular despite being the most-voted layout for the Infinity. Obviously because of lack of support. I love the look of it though. Good luck finding an Alps plate that supports the HHKB bottom row! Yeah, hindsight sucks. :-\ Did you get yours with a case or like mine with the bent plate?
This right here is a huge part of why I'm doing Alpine Winter. You can barely find a 6U Cherry spacebar, let alone Alps.
Indeed. And some aren't even compatible with the Infinity! When I first got my Infinity (which had MX Greens installed), I tried to use the 6u space bar that came with the Gateron blanks I have, but not only did it have an offset stem, but also incompatible spacing for the stabilizer stems as well.
Definitely not a good thing!
Post by: U47 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 22:08:33
Will do! I have a lot of fun ideas for my Infinity. Mine is indeed the hacker layout variety, which already seems uncommon, but even more so in the original bent case variety (which I fell in love at first sight). Took a bit of searching to finally find one! I think you guys will like what I have in mind, unless, again, I seriously screw up. Haha. Hoping to pull through and post my build log on here. The bent case infinity might be my favorite, but it's so minimalist, that I wanted to do something to make it just a little more unique and practical.I do have a universal plate on the way (jdcarpe's design) that will support the row, but it will have extra holes. I'm sure I'll have to get a custom plate cut :/
Yeah, the hacker layout seemed very unpopular despite being the most-voted layout for the Infinity. Obviously because of lack of support. I love the look of it though. Good luck finding an Alps plate that supports the HHKB bottom row! Yeah, hindsight sucks. :-\ Did you get yours with a case or like mine with the bent plate?
I got a case since I was in the second MD round. Didn't think to look for a bent plate. They do look sharp.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 11 September 2015, 22:11:11
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:16:20
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I spent most of this morning folding boxes and getting all of the existing sets ready and marked for everyone.
Please pm me if you don't want the incorrect set and only want the Cherry legend set, thanks.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:33:10
Just a quick heads up for everyone. The replacements caps are in production and should be finished soon. In the mean time, I stayed busy ;D
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I spent most of this morning folding boxes and getting all of the existing sets ready and marked for everyone.
Please pm me if you don't want the incorrect set and only want the Cherry legend set, thanks.
Please, don't turn me on like that.
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 18 September 2015, 20:04:40
Just a quick heads up for everyone. The replacements caps are in production and should be finished soon. In the mean time, I stayed busy ;D
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I spent most of this morning folding boxes and getting all of the existing sets ready and marked for everyone.
Please pm me if you don't want the incorrect set and only want the Cherry legend set, thanks.
Please, don't turn me on like that.
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Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 18 September 2015, 20:21:11
Just a quick heads up for everyone. The replacements caps are in production and should be finished soon. In the mean time, I stayed busy ;D
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I spent most of this morning folding boxes and getting all of the existing sets ready and marked for everyone.
Please pm me if you don't want the incorrect set and only want the Cherry legend set, thanks.
Please, don't turn me on like that.
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Who says I have a penis?
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 20:52:31
Just a quick heads up for everyone. The replacements caps are in production and should be finished soon. In the mean time, I stayed busy ;D
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I spent most of this morning folding boxes and getting all of the existing sets ready and marked for everyone.
Please pm me if you don't want the incorrect set and only want the Cherry legend set, thanks.
Please, don't turn me on like that.
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Who says I have a penis?
Everyone knows every nerdy person on every nerdy website is a boy.
Post by: olijuice on Sun, 20 September 2015, 21:34:33
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 20 September 2015, 23:51:39
Would it be possible once you get the latest modifiers to take a side by side picture of both to compare the differences?I am planning on it.
Post by: childofthehorn on Mon, 21 September 2015, 10:09:55
Will do! I have a lot of fun ideas for my Infinity. Mine is indeed the hacker layout variety, which already seems uncommon, but even more so in the original bent case variety (which I fell in love at first sight). Took a bit of searching to finally find one!
I have a "spare" Hacker Layout Bent Plate for the Infinity if still inclined... BNIB... or anyone else for that matter.
PM me if interested. I would be more than happy to trade for a Flat plate.
Post by: njbair on Mon, 21 September 2015, 10:19:54
Will do! I have a lot of fun ideas for my Infinity. Mine is indeed the hacker layout variety, which already seems uncommon, but even more so in the original bent case variety (which I fell in love at first sight). Took a bit of searching to finally find one!
I have a "spare" Hacker Layout Bent Plate for the Infinity if still inclined... BNIB... or anyone else for that matter.
PM me if interested. I would be more than happy to trade for a Flat plate.
In case you don't want to wait for a trade, BlueNalgene is getting ready to run a group buy for Alps PCBs and plates, and I think his plates will support the Infinity layout. IC thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74524.0).
Also, if you need a full set of Alps caps, I'm running an IC for those as well (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74783).
Post by: E3E on Mon, 21 September 2015, 11:17:38
Will do! I have a lot of fun ideas for my Infinity. Mine is indeed the hacker layout variety, which already seems uncommon, but even more so in the original bent case variety (which I fell in love at first sight). Took a bit of searching to finally find one!
I have a "spare" Hacker Layout Bent Plate for the Infinity if still inclined... BNIB... or anyone else for that matter.
PM me if interested. I would be more than happy to trade for a Flat plate.
I just finished my build with a bent plate hacker layout case. I definitely wouldn't mind having a spare myself for a future project, perhaps with orange or green alps!
(http://i.imgur.com/FLlg3mR.jpg)
Many thanks to Badwrench for sending these to me early (I used the shipping costs I paid to have these sent early and so I'll be billed for shipping again once the Cherry font versions come around -- I requested this because I accidentally bricked my vintage blue alps board and desperately wanted to put its remains to use :P)
Post by: njbair on Mon, 21 September 2015, 12:18:05
Post by: E3E on Mon, 21 September 2015, 12:28:35
Looks good! Are those "feet" something custom that you added?
Thanks! Here are some more pictures to show some detail. The feet/non-slip pads are something I've added, yep! The stock bent case has no sort of gripping feet at all and skids around like crazy. It's practically a sled. Soooo I decided to add some silicone foam to the bottom to prevent that and because of the crazy surface area, it doesn't slip whatsoever. It's grippier than any keyboard I've used, haha. No way I can use a sleeve case with this, but thankfully I have a HHKB zip up case that fits it nicely.
Also notable is the acrylic sheet I used to cover the exposed area of the PCB on the bottom. It was mainly done because it was uncomfortable to grab from beneath, but it's good to protect all the exposed circuitry. I glued nuts down to the PCB on the other side (with loctite brush-on, loctite ultra gel, and E6000 [overkill?]) and used M2 mounting screws to secure it to the plate. If any of the nuts were to come unfastened, it'd be almost impossible to access the PCB without cutting/tearing/snapping the acrylic off, which wouldn't be good, so I made sure they'd stay put.
I originally had the idea of doing that bit from the thought of adding LED strips or a battery pack to make it wireless. :)
Excuse the fuzzy pics. :-X The last pic shows the detail of the backside!
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FLlg3mR.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eIWaHg1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uDUpeAx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TvYPGSl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fiFN8Vk.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YxTvmEO.jpg)
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 25 September 2015, 13:55:19
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/8dc30b1d19f1e243641b4dbef7c914ac.jpg)
And one for njbair - that cherry font short backspace.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/6a2402111663c1ac8b82479bc561f423.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 25 September 2015, 13:57:05
Post by: E3E on Fri, 25 September 2015, 13:58:50
Look what just showed up.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/8dc30b1d19f1e243641b4dbef7c914ac.jpg)
And one for njbair - that cherry font short backspace.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/6a2402111663c1ac8b82479bc561f423.jpg)
My Infinity is ready! <3 Love the way these look, dayum! Gonna be hot with Alpine Winter in the mix too!
Invoice me whenever you need to when it comes to shipping, Badwrench, and thanks for doing all this, once again!
Post by: njbair on Fri, 25 September 2015, 14:00:21
Look what just showed up.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/8dc30b1d19f1e243641b4dbef7c914ac.jpg)
And one for njbair - that cherry font short backspace.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/6a2402111663c1ac8b82479bc561f423.jpg)
Thanks Badwrench! I was scrolling down to the reply button to ask about that backspace.
Also, can't wait for these to arrive!
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 25 September 2015, 14:56:10
Look what just showed up.
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Post by: nickheller on Fri, 25 September 2015, 14:58:07
Post by: sean on Fri, 25 September 2015, 15:06:48
Post by: Vio on Fri, 25 September 2015, 19:47:45
So we get both sets?Yup. You have the option for both.
This is an unexpected but welcome surprise.
Also, I just received a V60 courtesy of inanis, so I will be playing with the stabilizer wires to see what can be done to get them to work with costar inserts. Looks like rhe width is fine, just need to play with the distance between the bends. I will be picking up some wire on Tuesday and tinkering during the week.
:eek: Awesome, I'm in for both
Thanks badwrench :thumb:
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 27 September 2015, 00:01:46
Here are some pics of the corrected caps.
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Post by: scubaste on Sun, 27 September 2015, 00:05:30
I got a bunch packed and labeled, and still have more to go. Huge shout out to nubbinator for driving down from the OC and helping me to get the caps boxed and organized, it was a tremendous help. It was also cool to hang out and have a couple amazing beers and some pizza. International shipping invoices will be going out over the next couple days.
Here are some pics of the corrected caps.
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That sounds like a pretty good time! Also I got a shipping confirmation thru paypal so THANKS Nubbs and Badwrench. Can't wait to see them on a board and take some pics.
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 27 September 2015, 00:10:47
Post by: newc303 on Sun, 27 September 2015, 15:20:22
Post by: njbair on Sun, 27 September 2015, 15:56:18
What is everyone doing for the alpha keys? I'm currently using my Infinity with the blank DSA's but I feel like it'll clash with these Cherry profiled modifiers.I've got a new GB for a full 60% set! Check my sig.
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 28 September 2015, 06:22:49
What is everyone doing for the alpha keys? I'm currently using my Infinity with the blank DSA's but I feel like it'll clash with these Cherry profiled modifiers.I have some BoW Cyrillic doubleshots from a HUE.
All I need is an Alps board but money will be tight until later this year.
(http://i.imgur.com/8TVARy5h.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8TVARy5)
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:53:39
Post by: atectatifern on Wed, 30 September 2015, 19:02:13
Post by: njbair on Wed, 30 September 2015, 19:02:57
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 01 October 2015, 01:49:44
All but 2 domestic packages have been sent, they will go out tomorrow. All shipping invoices are out for international orders and I will ship them as they are paid.Paid. Lay that good stuff on me!
(btw, there's no "e" in my username!)
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 01 October 2015, 02:05:43
All but 2 domestic packages have been sent, they will go out tomorrow. All shipping invoices are out for international orders and I will ship them as they are paid.Paid. Lay that good stuff on me!
(btw, there's no "e" in my username!)
Sorry about that. My mind just automatically put it in. Also, the printout from Google docs is so tiny I can barely read it.
Either way, I will have your box in the post tomorrow. :thumb:
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 01 October 2015, 04:54:54
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 01 October 2015, 04:57:54
Either way, I will have your box in the post tomorrow. :thumb:
cool. Thanks BW.
It's race between these and the Massdrop TaiHao's! Which will reach me first? Which will stay on my V80 the longest? Nobody knows!
Post by: atectatifern on Thu, 01 October 2015, 05:00:44
cool. Thanks BW.Ha! I was just thinking that the timing of those two was fortuitous. Else, I'd have put the DCS modifiers on my Infinity with DSA blanks and possibly disrupted the keyboard space-time continuum.
It's race between these and the Massdrop TaiHao's! Which will reach me first? Which will stay on my V80 the longest? Nobody knows!
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 01 October 2015, 05:45:51
cool. Thanks BW.Ha! I was just thinking that the timing of those two was fortuitous. Else, I'd have put the DCS modifiers on my Infinity with DSA blanks and possibly disrupted the keyboard space-time continuum.
It's race between these and the Massdrop TaiHao's! Which will reach me first? Which will stay on my V80 the longest? Nobody knows!
I'm thinking this set combined with the "Olivette" will look pretty nice. Might need to white-vinyl-wrap the case for that tho...
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 01 October 2015, 17:50:24
Pictures to follow tomorrow.
EDIT: Of the key caps. The fish are already gone and the Nerds are disappearing as I type this.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 October 2015, 17:52:24
Post by: njbair on Thu, 01 October 2015, 17:53:14
MAILMAN WHERE U AT BRO
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 01 October 2015, 18:54:22
Candy? There's candy?
MAILMAN WHERE U AT BRO
Only some got candy. I kept throwing some at Badwrench's kid to get her all jacked up on sugar and like me...that and I ate a bag when Badwrench turned his back.
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 01 October 2015, 19:08:51
Candy? There's candy?
MAILMAN WHERE U AT BRO
Only some got candy. I kept throwing some at Badwrench's kid to get her all jacked up on sugar and like me...that and I ate a bag when Badwrench turned his back.
She woke up the next morning and walked straight to the stairs saying your name. The candy must have worked.
Post by: njbair on Thu, 01 October 2015, 19:23:07
"Uncle Nubbinator! Uncle Nubbinator! Where are you?"Candy? There's candy?
MAILMAN WHERE U AT BRO
Only some got candy. I kept throwing some at Badwrench's kid to get her all jacked up on sugar and like me...that and I ate a bag when Badwrench turned his back.
She woke up the next morning and walked straight to the stairs saying your name. The candy must have worked.
Nubs if I don't get some candy Imma be ticked off.
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 01 October 2015, 19:24:26
More"Uncle Nubbinator! Uncle Nubbinator! Where are you?"Candy? There's candy?
MAILMAN WHERE U AT BRO
Only some got candy. I kept throwing some at Badwrench's kid to get her all jacked up on sugar and like me...that and I ate a bag when Badwrench turned his back.
She woke up the next morning and walked straight to the stairs saying your name. The candy must have worked.
Nubs if I don't get some candy Imma be ticked off.
Oh, you'll get some sugar ;)
Post by: njbair on Fri, 02 October 2015, 11:13:43
(http://i.imgur.com/mSwHx5V.jpg)
Check it out, yo. Those are the Tai Hao doubleshots from Massdrop on the alphas. The legends are Cherry-ish enough that it completes the look quite nicely. The spacebar is the original DSA PBT spacebar from the Infinity kit. Not yet having a white/gray/beige spacebar is the main reason why I went with white on black for the alphas.
(http://i.imgur.com/FSUrPOz.jpg)
The profiles are slightly different, but nowhere near as big a deal as I had imagined.
(http://i.imgur.com/I18iYpy.jpg)
This candy didn't stand a chance.
I'm so psyched that I can finally use my Infinity keyboard! Thanks so much, Badwrench, for blazing a trail forward to Alps goodness!!!
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:48:22
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Post by: njbair on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:50:52
Non-cherry mods with alphas from an old FK-2001. Spacebar is from a Dell AT101W and is poorly stabilized. Very pretty, no?!Very nice. I wish I had some oldschool beige caps to use with these.
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Post by: atectatifern on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:50:18
Post by: njbair on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:57:03
They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!Those DSA blanks are brutal. It doesn't help that the Infinity plates are too thick for Alps switches to properly clip into place (this is not an issue with Cherry switches). When I first removed them I irreparably broke two Matias switches. Had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 02 October 2015, 19:05:15
They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!
Well, now that you have a few that don't work, use one of those to mount all of these at least once. Once you have mounted these once and pulled them off, the next time is much easier. That first time basically takes any flashing or irregularities off the stem and allows you to mount and remove them much better.
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 02 October 2015, 19:05:50
They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!Those DSA blanks are brutal. It doesn't help that the Infinity plates are too thick for Alps switches to properly clip into place (this is not an issue with Cherry switches). When I first removed them I irreparably broke two Matias switches. Had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Pretty much why I'm in BlueNalgene's GB. The Infinity is great but there's definitely room for improvement.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 02 October 2015, 19:36:53
Wow. I wasn't aware of this. I was hoping the Infinity would get another drop so I could try Matias Alps, but this sounds like Infinity 2.0.They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!Those DSA blanks are brutal. It doesn't help that the Infinity plates are too thick for Alps switches to properly clip into place (this is not an issue with Cherry switches). When I first removed them I irreparably broke two Matias switches. Had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Pretty much why I'm in BlueNalgene's GB. The Infinity is great but there's definitely room for improvement.
Post by: njbair on Fri, 02 October 2015, 19:39:41
Infinity is not a bad MX board, mechanically. But the Alps bit is kind of an afterthought. Firmware-wise, I'd rather have hasu's TMK over anything else, so Alps Party is a no-brainer.Wow. I wasn't aware of this. I was hoping the Infinity would get another drop so I could try Matias Alps, but this sounds like Infinity 2.0.They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!Those DSA blanks are brutal. It doesn't help that the Infinity plates are too thick for Alps switches to properly clip into place (this is not an issue with Cherry switches). When I first removed them I irreparably broke two Matias switches. Had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Pretty much why I'm in BlueNalgene's GB. The Infinity is great but there's definitely room for improvement.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 02 October 2015, 19:43:13
Cool; I may have to join this, wallet permitting. If and when the Infinity ever comes back, I'll opt for MX switches on it.Infinity is not a bad MX board, mechanically. But the Alps bit is kind of an afterthought. Firmware-wise, I'd rather have hasu's TMK over anything else, so Alps Party is a no-brainer.Wow. I wasn't aware of this. I was hoping the Infinity would get another drop so I could try Matias Alps, but this sounds like Infinity 2.0.They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!Those DSA blanks are brutal. It doesn't help that the Infinity plates are too thick for Alps switches to properly clip into place (this is not an issue with Cherry switches). When I first removed them I irreparably broke two Matias switches. Had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Pretty much why I'm in BlueNalgene's GB. The Infinity is great but there's definitely room for improvement.
Post by: atectatifern on Fri, 02 October 2015, 21:44:41
Well, now that you have a few that don't work, use one of those to mount all of these at least once. Once you have mounted these once and pulled them off, the next time is much easier. That first time basically takes any flashing or irregularities off the stem and allows you to mount and remove them much better.Thanks for the tip!
Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 03 October 2015, 07:14:35
Post by: getf on Sat, 03 October 2015, 09:51:38
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.
(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
Post by: njbair on Sat, 03 October 2015, 12:07:00
Thanks for putting this awesome group buy together Badwrench. :thumb:What board is that? A v60?
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 03 October 2015, 13:17:11
Thanks for putting this awesome group buy together Badwrench. :thumb:This is exactly what i was planning as well. Cyrillic with these mods. Looking good. :thumb:
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
What board did you get them from?
Post by: scubaste on Sat, 03 October 2015, 14:37:30
Thanks for putting this awesome group buy together Badwrench. :thumb:This is exactly what i was planning as well. Cyrillic with these mods. Looking good. :thumb:
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
What board did you get them from?
Looking good! I too would like to know where the Cyrillic alphas came from .
Post by: getf on Sat, 03 October 2015, 18:00:44
Thanks for putting this awesome group buy together Badwrench. :thumb:What board is that? A v60?
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
Matias V60 QC
And to the other two people who asked, the keyboad is a Tai Hao Clicker 21
Keycaps are in Bulgarian language.
Post by: sean on Sat, 03 October 2015, 22:57:38
Post by: ideus on Sat, 03 October 2015, 23:43:46
Tempting...
This could look really nice with these:
(http://i.imgur.com/8TVARy5h.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8TVARy5)
Super nice alphas. Thank you for sharing.
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 04 October 2015, 10:42:19
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 04 October 2015, 12:44:34
Post by: newc303 on Sun, 04 October 2015, 22:32:36
Post by: manofinterests on Sun, 04 October 2015, 22:56:41
https://imgur.com/a/9trzM (https://imgur.com/a/9trzM)
Post by: E3E on Sun, 04 October 2015, 23:01:30
This is how mine turned out! Great Groupbuy! I'm really happy with how these turned out :)
https://imgur.com/a/9trzM (https://imgur.com/a/9trzM)
I love how you spread these caps throughout the various boards, haha
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Mon, 05 October 2015, 11:10:21
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 05 October 2015, 11:17:50
Does anyone have tips on removing the DSA caps off of the board? They are so stuck on I feel like I'm about to pull the switch out of the board :(
Sorry, I would recommend just being gentle. Probably get some pressure straight up and then add a tiny wiggle from left to right while maintaining upward force. Having just pulled the stem out of an mx switch, I know how you fell.
Post by: njbair on Mon, 05 October 2015, 11:20:26
Post by: E3E on Mon, 05 October 2015, 11:50:48
I broke two Matias switches when I first removed those DSA caps. I had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com. From them on I decided I was not going to put them back on, and my Infinity sat unused until these babies arrived.
How was the typing feel on them, my good man? Was it worth it compared to ABS in your opinion? I'm still not sure how I feel about the difference, but it seems pretty negligible. I'm planning a blacked out alps keyboard soon, so I might hit you up for those caps!
Er, though Last Pilot's graphite replica buy will be something that might fit well too!
Post by: njbair on Mon, 05 October 2015, 12:07:29
I like the feel of PBT but I don't like the DSA profile. If you can use the caps with their oddball sizes though, they're yours.I broke two Matias switches when I first removed those DSA caps. I had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com. From them on I decided I was not going to put them back on, and my Infinity sat unused until these babies arrived.
How was the typing feel on them, my good man? Was it worth it compared to ABS in your opinion? I'm still not sure how I feel about the difference, but it seems pretty negligible. I'm planning a blacked out alps keyboard soon, so I might hit you up for those caps!
Er, though Last Pilot's graphite replica buy will be something that might fit well too!
Just remind me around the time Alpine Winter ships and I'll throw them in with your order.
Post by: scubaste on Mon, 05 October 2015, 17:48:15
(http://i.imgur.com/EIarKZ2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/p3BMl1a.jpg)
Taobao Olivette alphas. No HHKB spacebar support so funky bottom row again.
(http://i.imgur.com/m9ukttw.jpg)
Loving the mods though. This infinity is finally getting some use. :thumb:
Thanks again for bringing these to us Badwrench!
Post by: njbair on Mon, 05 October 2015, 18:01:24
Infinity with HHKB layout in a Tex aluminum case. Dell AT101W alphas. I still need a HHKB sized spacebar to get the bottom row right. I might mod this one if I get the time. I'm also considering making some switch blockers or maybe just getting silver vinyl to clean it up.I didn't realize you could "fake" the 6.25 spacebar by using smaller mods like that. Pretty clever!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EIarKZ2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p3BMl1a.jpg)
Taobao Olivette alphas. No HHKB spacebar support so funky bottom row again.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/m9ukttw.jpg)
Loving the mods though. This infinity is finally getting some use. :thumb:
Thanks again for bringing these to us Badwrench!
I would just use it as-is until Alpine Winter gets there.
Post by: E3E on Mon, 05 October 2015, 18:05:23
I like the feel of PBT but I don't like the DSA profile. If you can use the caps with their oddball sizes though, they're yours.I broke two Matias switches when I first removed those DSA caps. I had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com. From them on I decided I was not going to put them back on, and my Infinity sat unused until these babies arrived.
How was the typing feel on them, my good man? Was it worth it compared to ABS in your opinion? I'm still not sure how I feel about the difference, but it seems pretty negligible. I'm planning a blacked out alps keyboard soon, so I might hit you up for those caps!
Er, though Last Pilot's graphite replica buy will be something that might fit well too!
Just remind me around the time Alpine Winter ships and I'll throw them in with your order.
Oh snap! I appreciate the generosity! Thanks, njbair. I've never typed on DSA before, so it'd be an interesting experience to be sure. Aside from the 6u spacebar, everything else should fit. I'll chime in when Alpine Winter gets to that point. :thumb:
Post by: braidn on Mon, 05 October 2015, 20:06:01
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 05 October 2015, 20:21:57
Super curious if there are any extras that were made? Or perhaps someone bought one too many and they wanted to get rid of a set? Love the glider symbol to death.
Sorry, there were no extras made.
Post by: njbair on Mon, 05 October 2015, 20:43:21
Super curious if there are any extras that were made? Or perhaps someone bought one too many and they wanted to get rid of a set? Love the glider symbol to death.I'm running a full 60% set GB right now, although no glider caps. Check my sig if interested.
Post by: braidn on Mon, 05 October 2015, 21:55:33
Super curious if there are any extras that were made? Or perhaps someone bought one too many and they wanted to get rid of a set? Love the glider symbol to death.I'm running a full 60% set GB right now, although no glider caps. Check my sig if interested.
Most definitely in on the Winter Alps set. Just trying to see if there were any modifier extras to go along with a Tai-Hao set while I wait for your ship to arrive in December. Looking to get an Infinity based Hasu powered Alps board up and typable before December. Thanks though.
Post by: E3E on Tue, 06 October 2015, 05:34:12
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 07:58:30
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 06 October 2015, 10:19:00
Was everything shipped at the same time? My PO has recently done a horrible job at leaving me those little pink notes. Sometimes they have stuff waiting for me at the office that I don't know about.More or less over a couple days other than international.
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 08 October 2015, 13:39:15
Just waiting for 2 more international payments and we will be done. No rush to you 2 that haven't paid for shipping. I have your sets packed and ready. Pay when you are able and they will go in the mail.
Thank you everyone for making this buy happen.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:23:27
All but 2 orders have shipped as of today :thumb:
Just waiting for 2 more international payments and we will be done. No rush to you 2 that haven't paid for shipping. I have your sets packed and ready. Pay when you are able and they will go in the mail.
Thank you everyone for making this buy happen.
Thank you for organizing it and dealing with any issues that arose.
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:39:44
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 October 2015, 07:01:32
Post by: U47 on Fri, 09 October 2015, 16:37:42
TMK's firmware is substantially more powerful than the stock Infinity fw. It's a shame they (for whatever reason) used an ARM chip on their board I have nothing but nightmares trying to get TMK to work on it. Alps Party should relieve my suffering (and the boss HHKB plate).Infinity is not a bad MX board, mechanically. But the Alps bit is kind of an afterthought. Firmware-wise, I'd rather have hasu's TMK over anything else, so Alps Party is a no-brainer.Wow. I wasn't aware of this. I was hoping the Infinity would get another drop so I could try Matias Alps, but this sounds like Infinity 2.0.They look awesome! Had some damage pulling the Massdrop DSA off (stems stuck in two switches, three switches pulled to the point of not working) but am getting these on this weekend. Thank you, Badwrench!Those DSA blanks are brutal. It doesn't help that the Infinity plates are too thick for Alps switches to properly clip into place (this is not an issue with Cherry switches). When I first removed them I irreparably broke two Matias switches. Had to buy replacements from mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Pretty much why I'm in BlueNalgene's GB. The Infinity is great but there's definitely room for improvement.
Post by: Applet on Wed, 14 October 2015, 12:04:05
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 14 October 2015, 12:39:50
(http://i.imgur.com/wd3pGnWh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/wd3pGnW)
(http://i.imgur.com/jiqq0DRh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/jiqq0DR)
I only forgot to take a picture with my purple dolly before packing everything back up. XP
Post by: getf on Wed, 14 October 2015, 14:55:47
Thanks for putting this awesome group buy together Badwrench. :thumb:
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
I am being forced to sell my set, :-[ if anyone is interested in purchasing my set at cost, please let me know.
Infinity kit + Optional Modifier kit.
Post by: olijuice on Wed, 14 October 2015, 15:55:29
I am being forced to sell my set, :-[ if anyone is interested in purchasing my set at cost, please let me know.
Infinity kit + Optional Modifier kit.
I would be interested. Did you receive both sets or just the Cherry set?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 October 2015, 16:20:17
Thanks for putting this awesome group buy together Badwrench. :thumb:
Although I do no own an infinity, I appreciate you including the standard right shift and backspace.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxbZMD1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oasurKb.jpg)
I am being forced to sell my set, :-[ if anyone is interested in purchasing my set at cost, please let me know.
Infinity kit + Optional Modifier kit.
If you have the items on hand, you should make a Classifieds post. Selling spots in a group buy is reserved for selling a set before the GB has shipped and you'd like to transfer the order on the GB organizer's end. :thumb:
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 17 October 2015, 21:04:19
Waiting on my Cherry stabs for mods, so I just used the Olivetti caps for now.
Everything but the Caps Lock..............not to bad.
Thank all who made this possible :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/qxIpqMF.jpg)
Post by: henz on Mon, 19 October 2015, 04:09:02
Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 19 October 2015, 04:53:17
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
Post by: henz on Mon, 19 October 2015, 05:47:23
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
i have already gotten a slip to pick them up, when i go to pick it up they say its on its way. But when i call the post office they say that it cant be tracked and i have gotten a slip because the package was too big to put into my mailbox IE the package is chilling somewhere else or the pickup point forgot to scan it.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 20 October 2015, 13:39:59
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
i have already gotten a slip to pick them up, when i go to pick it up they say its on its way. But when i call the post office they say that it cant be tracked and i have gotten a slip because the package was too big to put into my mailbox IE the package is chilling somewhere else or the pickup point forgot to scan it.
Hmmm, let me know what happens. I will keep an eye out. So far no packages returned.
Post by: henz on Tue, 20 October 2015, 14:07:48
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
i have already gotten a slip to pick them up, when i go to pick it up they say its on its way. But when i call the post office they say that it cant be tracked and i have gotten a slip because the package was too big to put into my mailbox IE the package is chilling somewhere else or the pickup point forgot to scan it.
Hmmm, let me know what happens. I will keep an eye out. So far no packages returned.
Now i have to eat my words, i got them today. Seems they sent a mail bag to some other place. Mistake fixed
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 20 October 2015, 14:09:36
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
i have already gotten a slip to pick them up, when i go to pick it up they say its on its way. But when i call the post office they say that it cant be tracked and i have gotten a slip because the package was too big to put into my mailbox IE the package is chilling somewhere else or the pickup point forgot to scan it.
Hmmm, let me know what happens. I will keep an eye out. So far no packages returned.
Now i have to eat my words, i got them today. Seems they sent a mail bag to some other place. Mistake fixed
Ok, cool.
zombimuncha, let me know as well how yours goes.
Post by: getf on Tue, 20 October 2015, 15:25:35
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 20 October 2015, 19:39:52
Any plans to do any other GB's Badwrench? This was one of the smoothest buys i've been a part of.
Not any time in the near future. It is a ton of work even for a small one and my Wife does not like losing me to my office during the minimal amount of time we get to spend together.
Thank you though, I appreciate hearing that.
Post by: zombimuncha on Wed, 21 October 2015, 01:22:19
There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
i have already gotten a slip to pick them up, when i go to pick it up they say its on its way. But when i call the post office they say that it cant be tracked and i have gotten a slip because the package was too big to put into my mailbox IE the package is chilling somewhere else or the pickup point forgot to scan it.
Hmmm, let me know what happens. I will keep an eye out. So far no packages returned.
Now i have to eat my words, i got them today. Seems they sent a mail bag to some other place. Mistake fixed
Ok, cool.
zombimuncha, let me know as well how yours goes.
Is mine gonna be the last to arrive? I got a customs fee card in the mail yesterday, so the caps should be here tomorrow-ish with any luck.
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 21 October 2015, 01:57:45
Nope. I still have 2 orders that have not shipped. Buyers aren't responding to pm's or paypal.There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.There seems to be some issues with my shipment, im not able to get them from the post office, they will most likely be returned to sender. :((
I'm still waiting on mine. USPS tracking says it's delivered - I *assume* this means it was delivered to a Customs office somewhere, and after an indeterminate amount of time they'll send me a note saying how much tax + fees I need to pay.
i have already gotten a slip to pick them up, when i go to pick it up they say its on its way. But when i call the post office they say that it cant be tracked and i have gotten a slip because the package was too big to put into my mailbox IE the package is chilling somewhere else or the pickup point forgot to scan it.
Hmmm, let me know what happens. I will keep an eye out. So far no packages returned.
Now i have to eat my words, i got them today. Seems they sent a mail bag to some other place. Mistake fixed
Ok, cool.
zombimuncha, let me know as well how yours goes.
Is mine gonna be the last to arrive? I got a customs fee card in the mail yesterday, so the caps should be here tomorrow-ish with any luck.
Post by: olijuice on Wed, 21 October 2015, 05:57:54
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 21 October 2015, 11:30:24
If there's some timeout period for them to reply and one of them is a single order with optional modifiers I'd be willing to step in and pay.
Sorry, they have already paid for the set. I separated the shipping for international orders so that I could bill them the correct amount that it cost me.
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 22 October 2015, 10:50:36
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Thanks Badwrench!
edit: do u even stab, bro?
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Anybody got like a walkthru or something for making new balance bars for these?
Post by: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:09:42
When Alpine Winter comes around, I'll be switching over to that thin ABS and blue alps again.
(http://puu.sh/kVeLI/018f000c6e.JPG)
(http://puu.sh/kVeVS/99ec81042a.JPG)
The matching profile definitely looks heaps better. I liked the AEK caps, but they just look a little off next to DCS.
Post by: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:14:24
They're here! They're finally here!
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Thanks Badwrench!
edit: do u even stab, bro?
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Anybody got like a walkthru or something for making new balance bars for these?
It's not too difficult! For caps with Cherry stabilizer mounts, wire around half the height of typical Alps-stab wire works well. That's what I found after bending my own. For trial and error, I just used paperclips (and they work fine, haha) but using music wire is usually the way to do it, or rebending and snipping the old wire.
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:16:14
They're here! They're finally here!
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Thanks Badwrench!
edit: do u even stab, bro?
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Anybody got like a walkthru or something for making new balance bars for these?
Oops, I meant to do that. Sorry. I will pick up some wire and do a photo tutorial soon.
Post by: Frizer on Sun, 25 October 2015, 15:41:49
Swedish Fish tho....very clever....v e r y c l e v e r
Post by: sean on Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:28:38
They're here! They're finally here!
(Attachment Link)
Thanks Badwrench!
edit: do u even stab, bro?
(Attachment Link)
Anybody got like a walkthru or something for making new balance bars for these?
Oops, I meant to do that. Sorry. I will pick up some wire and do a photo tutorial soon.
This will be most appreciated by me. :)
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 01 November 2015, 13:51:13
They're here! They're finally here!
(Attachment Link)
Thanks Badwrench!
edit: do u even stab, bro?
(Attachment Link)
Anybody got like a walkthru or something for making new balance bars for these?
Oops, I meant to do that. Sorry. I will pick up some wire and do a photo tutorial soon.
This will be most appreciated by me. :)
Sorry for the lateness of this, but I don't get a lot of time to tinker. Had a free morning so I thought I should get this knocked out.
Note that these measurements are only for the V60 as I don't have any other ansi alps boards. The infinity is already set up for the costar stabs.
RT shift: SP caps are 24mm center to center for the cruciform stabilizer mounts. The V60 wire mounts are 40mm at the outside edge. What this means is that the wire is going to have to be bent back on itself to make a trapezoid shape. One thing I highly reccomned is the use of the larger costar stabs over the shorty ones. This will give you a bit more wiggle room in the height of the wire. I have mine at 14mm with the larger inserts, but with the smaller ones you will need to be at 13mm or you will get a little binding as the key bottoms out.
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For the other stabilized keys, just bend the sides to get the correct height of 13mm (this way you are good with either style of insert). Make sure that you leave 14mm or more clearance for the switch between the tops tabs of the wire.
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 01 November 2015, 14:03:10
Post by: Applet on Mon, 02 November 2015, 03:56:25
(http://i.imgur.com/8SO9VyM.jpg)
Post by: jswill on Thu, 05 November 2015, 19:51:38
Also, is there anyone that has not received their set? I have not had any return packages, but still would like to know, thanks.I still haven't received mine yet :(
Post by: zombimuncha on Wed, 09 December 2015, 09:52:55
I guess I need to get something that's 19AWG == 20SWG guage, but what about the hardness? Also is it possible to get a sensible amount for just one keyboard? The smallest packages I'm finding online are like 6 foot long, and curled up meaning I would need to find a way to straighten it first....
:confused:
Post by: E3E on Wed, 09 December 2015, 10:18:46
Sorry for necro, but it's like 2 months later and I still didn't figure out exactly what kind of wire to buy for my Alps stabs. Any suggestions / links?
I guess I need to get something that's 19AWG == 20SWG guage, but what about the hardness? Also is it possible to get a sensible amount for just one keyboard? The smallest packages I'm finding online are like 6 foot long, and curled up meaning I would need to find a way to straighten it first....
:confused:
Man, I've used paper clips before! As long as you get a solid wire, you should be okay. I know I saved a particular gauge of piano wire that was perfect for Costar and Alps stabs. I'll have to try and find it. Yeah, it's going to be hard to find the wire not curled up, maybe try searching for "rods" instead of wire.
EDIT: here's a good resource! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65132.0)
I think you're going to want wire around 1mm. Let me measure my Costar and Alps wires for ya real quick.
Costar: 1.29 mm (this came off a vintage Alps NTC)
Alps: 1 mm
:)
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 10 December 2015, 09:02:14
Post by: E3E on Thu, 10 December 2015, 10:26:16
Thanks E3, I had a go with a paperclip a while back, but it didn't turn out so well. Guess I'll have another try...
Not a problem, good sir. I used paper clips on my FAME keyboard when I couldn't find any Alps wire (I now have a bunch more than I need, lol), and I got the wire to work fine! It's tricky though, especially if you're using a mix of Costar and Alps (I had to at first because the caps were ridiculously inconsistent and used both cruciform stab mounts and Alps), since the height for each is pretty different, and like Badwrench pointed out, some keys need specially bent wire because of the spacing of the mounts in relation to the stab clips in the plate (if we're talking about cruciform mount).
Good luck!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 December 2015, 12:21:30
Thanks E3, I had a go with a paperclip a while back, but it didn't turn out so well. Guess I'll have another try...
Not a problem, good sir. I used paper clips on my FAME keyboard when I couldn't find any Alps wire (I now have a bunch more than I need, lol), and I got the wire to work fine! It's tricky though, especially if you're using a mix of Costar and Alps (I had to at first because the caps were ridiculously inconsistent and used both cruciform stab mounts and Alps), since the height for each is pretty different, and like Badwrench pointed out, some keys need specially bent wire because of the spacing of the mounts in relation to the stab clips in the plate (if we're talking about cruciform mount).
Good luck!
What diameter wire did you use for bending your Alps stab wires? 0.039 inch music wire?
Post by: E3E on Thu, 10 December 2015, 12:37:07
Thanks E3, I had a go with a paperclip a while back, but it didn't turn out so well. Guess I'll have another try...
Not a problem, good sir. I used paper clips on my FAME keyboard when I couldn't find any Alps wire (I now have a bunch more than I need, lol), and I got the wire to work fine! It's tricky though, especially if you're using a mix of Costar and Alps (I had to at first because the caps were ridiculously inconsistent and used both cruciform stab mounts and Alps), since the height for each is pretty different, and like Badwrench pointed out, some keys need specially bent wire because of the spacing of the mounts in relation to the stab clips in the plate (if we're talking about cruciform mount).
Good luck!
What diameter wire did you use for bending your Alps stab wires? 0.039 inch music wire?
Well, I used paper clips on my FAME as a temporary fix, and I had costar wire from my NTC to use with my Infinity. Regarding the fame: I ended up getting enough vintages that were salvaged for parts that I did not have to use any homemade wire. :P
However, I was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 December 2015, 12:40:58
I was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
I will go ahead and order some 0.039 inch wire and a Dubro bender. I'll be sure to let you all know how it works. :)
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 10 December 2015, 12:58:21
I was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
I will go ahead and order some 0.039 inch wire and a Dubro bender. I'll be sure to let you all know how it works. :)
Yeah, that DuBro thing is like £50 over here, vs $10 USD. I'm not too keen on the 1000% transatlantic markup!
Post by: E3E on Thu, 10 December 2015, 13:00:49
I was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
I will go ahead and order some 0.039 inch wire and a Dubro bender. I'll be sure to let you all know how it works. :)
Yeah, that DuBro thing is like £50 over here, vs $10 USD. I'm not too keen on the 1000% transatlantic markup!
It's possible to use pliers, but instead of using the pliers alone to force the wire to bend, I'd use something with a 90 degree angle as a jig to bend the wires around with the pliers.
Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 10 December 2015, 14:31:14
I figure I'll get something like this, if I ever graduate beyond paperclipsI was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
I will go ahead and order some 0.039 inch wire and a Dubro bender. I'll be sure to let you all know how it works. :)
Yeah, that DuBro thing is like £50 over here, vs $10 USD. I'm not too keen on the 1000% transatlantic markup!
It's possible to use pliers, but instead of using the pliers alone to force the wire to bend, I'd use something with a 90 degree angle as a jig to bend the wires around with the pliers.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Proops-Wire-Bender/dp/B00AQIQALO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449779390&sr=8-1&keywords=wire+bender
Post by: E3E on Thu, 10 December 2015, 14:34:46
I figure I'll get something like this, if I ever graduate beyond paperclipsI was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
I will go ahead and order some 0.039 inch wire and a Dubro bender. I'll be sure to let you all know how it works. :)
Yeah, that DuBro thing is like £50 over here, vs $10 USD. I'm not too keen on the 1000% transatlantic markup!
It's possible to use pliers, but instead of using the pliers alone to force the wire to bend, I'd use something with a 90 degree angle as a jig to bend the wires around with the pliers.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Proops-Wire-Bender/dp/B00AQIQALO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449779390&sr=8-1&keywords=wire+bender
That's a classy little thing, I like it!
Good luck with getting those wires bent. :D
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 10 December 2015, 14:46:09
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 08:45:02
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 December 2015, 08:51:00
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Holy ****, get this cap a doctor!
If you still have the stem, get some plastic weld epoxy or some strong super glue! If you don't have the stem, you can always transplant one from an old Alps key cap you don't care for (9u space bar anyone?).
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 08:54:21
Show Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AsbCQjJYKpQ/Vmrgu2yGqOI/AAAAAAAAAJk/kcGYFO2GJ5I/w1095-h821-no/15%2B-%2B1)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Holy ****, get this cap a doctor!
If you still have the stem, get some plastic weld epoxy or some strong super glue! If you don't have the stem, you can always transplant one from an old Alps key cap you don't care for (9u space bar anyone?).
Sadly the stem was so tight in the matias switch, it wouldn't even budge, i've got plenty of stem candidates like left over tao-hai's.
Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 December 2015, 08:57:57
Show Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AsbCQjJYKpQ/Vmrgu2yGqOI/AAAAAAAAAJk/kcGYFO2GJ5I/w1095-h821-no/15%2B-%2B1)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Holy ****, get this cap a doctor!
If you still have the stem, get some plastic weld epoxy or some strong super glue! If you don't have the stem, you can always transplant one from an old Alps key cap you don't care for (9u space bar anyone?).
Sadly the stem was so tight in the matias switch, it wouldn't even budge, i've got plenty of stem candidates like left over tao-hai's.
Sounds good! Yeah, an old Apple IIc I salvaged switches from has a broken cap and the stem was incredibly difficult to pop out. :(
What I use for the stem transplants is a nice pair of flush cutters to cut around the stem I want, then I use a dremel with a sanding wheel attachment to get down to the stem and get everything smooth, then I adjust the height manually from there until it's aligned with the other caps.
For setting the stem, I've used some plast-aid (http://www.amazon.com/Plast-aid-80400-Plastic-Repair-6-Ounce/dp/B004DFHSM6) pool repair stuff that bonds well with ABS, though you could use anything from super glue to epoxy putty. Just be careful and use a pair of tweezers to set the stem.
Something that isn't an instant bond might be a good idea so you can adjust it before it sets.
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 11 December 2015, 10:11:27
Pm meShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AsbCQjJYKpQ/Vmrgu2yGqOI/AAAAAAAAAJk/kcGYFO2GJ5I/w1095-h821-no/15%2B-%2B1)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Spaceman1200 on Tue, 15 December 2015, 10:50:58
Post by: E3E on Tue, 15 December 2015, 11:12:48
Just so you guys know, Badwrench was a total bro and sent me a replacement cap, free of charge!
Badwrench is an awesome guy!
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 15 December 2015, 16:31:17
Just so you guys know, Badwrench was a total bro and sent me a replacement cap, free of charge!
Goodwrench!
Post by: axtran on Wed, 16 December 2015, 12:49:29
I was going to use that exact diameter, and I think it'd work without a hitch.
I will go ahead and order some 0.039 inch wire and a Dubro bender. I'll be sure to let you all know how it works. :)
I just tried with some wire and a Du-Bro, works great. I also ordered an additional pin for my Du-Bro to bend Cherry wire (lots thicker).