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Offline TheRedComet

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« on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 19:58:06 »
It's there special editions with their branding but they look pretty good.
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-net-related-news-information/942878-overclock-net-launches-our-branded-line.html

They even talk about getting the DK9008-G2 and DK-1087's in the thread. I'm impressed.
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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:00:49 »
Nice!

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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:02:36 »
Probably has less Duck.
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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:05:17 »
9008 for $110, that's great pricing. shipping's only $13 for me!

Offline the337

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:11:50 »
what are you doing with so many filcos?

Offline TheRedComet

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:12:35 »
lol have enough 10Keyless boards there?
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:36:56 »
i need to get a tenkeyless mech keyboard.

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:57:01 »
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People still buy those big keyboards?


I've always like full sized keyboards. Having the numpad is good for me because I work as an accountant and enter a lot of numbers, so it's just quicker with the numpad.
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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:58:50 »
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i need to get a tenkeyless mech keyboard.


Band saw + rewire?

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 20:59:10 »
I used to say "numpad FTW!" But now I'm much more used to living without it and definitely prefer the space I save with a tenkeyless.

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 21:07:09 »
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I've always like full sized keyboards. Having the numpad is good for me because I work as an accountant and enter a lot of numbers, so it's just quicker with the numpad.


Accountant! that's it!

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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 21:14:29 »
What about a separate numpad(though I can't think of any besides the Torpe one).
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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 21:50:59 »
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What about a separate numpad(though I can't think of any besides the Torpe one).


That's actually what I prefer. I use a Filco tenkeyless for ergonomics, and have a separate numpad to the right of my mouse. I'm using a $15 ebay special with mx blacks, but I've got some browns on the way for a swap.

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 22:28:05 »
Hello everyone!

Does anyone know if these Ducky boards are as loud as Filcos when bottoming out keys?  My first/only experience with mech boards was a Filco w/ cherry browns.  I can remember disliking the loud "claks" the board made when I bottomed out keys while typing/gaming (and so did my wife).  I currently own a Razer Blackwidow which I bought at Frys simply to try out Cherry Blues...love the thing.  I agree with Manyak the thing is super quiet and Im thinking about keeping it; BUT, I've been itching to buy something different...with Cherry Blues.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 22:33:21 »
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Accountant! that's it!


We all have to make money some how.

Quote from: mail2345;297022
What about a separate numpad(though I can't think of any besides the Torpe one).


There was a Filco one. Though I don't like the cost of a 10keyless and a Numpad.
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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 22:47:41 »
well, it won't seem so bad when you buy one numpad and multiple tenkeyless boards

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 23:03:09 »
not a fan of the media function keys to be honest.. i like the no-nonsense style of the filco/das/leo and their variants.. and as Ripster said backwards spacebar indeed
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 23:08:42 »
Looks like benevolent dictator > community cluster****
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Offline Moogle Stiltzkin

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« Reply #18 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 00:01:18 »
rebranded ocn ducky.

The only thing different is a ocn escape key provided, and a ocn sticker on the spacebar.

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 00:17:30 »
=.=|||  where is our geekhack keyboard?
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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 00:50:14 »
Someone at OCN even asked for a cheap rubber-dome version...LOL.
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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 00:55:19 »
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OCN is in business to generate advertisement revenue.  

Just another revenue stream for the moderators.  Do 15 year olds even do taxes?


Do you have proof to such claims?

I don't think it's fair to call a site out on such things. Besides, when you look at other large tech sites like Anandtech, Tom's Hardware, & TechPowerUP! there are far more ads (like in text ads) which are much more annoying.

To me Overclock.net seems much more classy of a place. Besides; there's no reason to hate on other people for what they have that you don't.
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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 01:12:16 »
The dancing Ducky isn't blocked by default. It was cute at first, but gets distracting after a bit.
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« Reply #23 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 01:14:52 »
It's good to see that my OCN keycap idea is still doing well. Hell, if they were making any money off them I'd ask for a cut.
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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 01:18:21 »
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What about a separate numpad(though I can't think of any besides the Torpe one).


There's a Filco numpad and a Cherry G90-3700
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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 01:45:48 »
Quote from: ripster;297103
source

I'm pretty sure iMav does it for the lulz.


That only proves that the website makes money with ads. Not that anyone is paid to do anything.

For that matter; I doubt anyone is paid to work there. Unlike other forums, there is no recruiting going on or mention of it anywhere.

Quote from: squarebox;297109
There's a Filco numpad and a Cherry G90-3700


Are either for sale in the US right now?
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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 05:20:40 »
Just ordered a Ducky with Cherry Blues from OCN.  We shall see if it is any better/louder than either my old Filco or my blackwidow.  Reviews and audio clips are awesome; but, nothing beats finding things out for yourself.
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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 05:43:45 »
I can get filco tenkeyless boards at the local 3c store, they have a pile of the numpads too, but don't know if they are brown or black.  Send me a pile of $$ and I will ship one to you :)

OCN has a giveaway for the duckies too :  Here!
All you need is one post there in the past.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 06:41:28 »
Meanwhile at OCN...

"What's double shot??"

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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 06:42:02 »
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I can get filco tenkeyless boards at the local 3c store, they have a pile of the numpads too, but don't know if they are brown or black.  Send me a pile of $$ and I will ship one to you :)

OCN has a giveaway for the duckies too :  Here!
All you need is one post there in the past.
How much would shipping be do you think?
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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 07:50:38 »
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Looks like benevolent dictator > community cluster****


This.

It's a sad day when the OCN crowd beats GH at it's own game.

*hangs head in shame*

I'm probably going to buy one as a "hate ****."


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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:03:31 »
Just bought the full, $140 package set.  I'll take pics when I get it.


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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:12:27 »
I don't see what is so special about this when compared to what KBL is trying to do with our keyboard? All they did was put one of the OCN keys in the ESC position and get ducky to custom print "Overclock.net" on the spacebar. I hardly call that a custom OCN keyboard.
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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:12:31 »
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Just bought the full, $140 package set.  I'll take pics when I get it.


140 is extremely good value! tired of waiting for the Leopold eh?

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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:15:31 »
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I don't see what is so special about this when compared to what KBL is trying to do with our keyboard? All they did was put one of the OCN keys in the ESC position and get ducky to custom print "Overclock.net" on the spacebar. I hardly call that a custom OCN keyboard.


Yeah, they should have made theirs like the Geekhack 'board.


Wait...

Quote from: manfaux;297172
140 is extremely good value! tired of waiting for the Leopold eh?


Actually, it's not a bad deal looking at everything you get, and who knows, I might actually like the thing.  In reality, though, I bought it out of spite.  I'll probably end up selling it on OCN.


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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:19:03 »
It's still a Ducky, therefore its still sucky. Plus its from a ****ty forum. Am I the only one who doesn't get what's the big deal here??

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:24:12 »
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It's still a Ducky, therefore its still sucky. Plus its from a ****ty forum. Am I the only one who doesn't get what's the big deal here??


It seems so.  The "****ty" (even wannabe) forum beat GH to the punch in creating a "custom" keyboard.  The "premier" English-language keyboard forum has squat, and we've been doing the keyboard thing for over 3 years.  OCN's a newcomer.


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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:24:26 »
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Yeah, they should have made theirs like the Geekhack 'board.


Wait...

I'm not really saying that they should have made it like the GH board, just that I don't think that "the OCN crowd beat GH at it's own game" because it's not the same game

Partnership w/ rebranding =/= Custom Manufactured

EDIT: And I have no hate for OCN...I am a GH member who is originally from OCN. There are a lot of smart people and good information at OCN..you just have to sift through a metric ton of bull**** to find it.
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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:28:22 »
Quote from: turbocharged;297177
Partnership w/ rebranding =/= Custom Manufactured


That's all anyone is going to do.  The original concept for the GH keyboard was a custom-branded Costar 'board.  Hell, we were throwing around re-branded Cherry 'boards.  Unless you know people with CNC machines and facilities to make PCBs, etc., all you will be able to do is get a re-branded keyboard.  Even then, the Korean custom 'boards get you a (badass) case, PCB and controller for over $300.  It doesn't include the switches, caps or assembly.

We got owned, plain and simple.


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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:36:23 »
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That's all anyone is going to do.  The original concept for the GH keyboard was a custom-branded Costar 'board.  Hell, we were throwing around re-branded Cherry 'boards.  Unless you know people with CNC machines and facilities to make PCBs, etc., all you will be able to do is get a re-branded keyboard.  Even then, the Korean custom 'boards get you a (badass) case, PCB and controller for over $300.  It doesn't include the switches, caps or assembly.

We got owned, plain and simple.

I guess we have different definitions of custom-branding (or I consider varying degrees of it). The OCN board still uses the Ducky name and part numbers and all the associated specifications that go a long with that part number. If the GH keyboard ever works out, it will be "rebranded" but will do so, under custom specifications....Cherry Red/Clear keys, double-shot keycaps, plate/pcb mounted, tenkeyless, etc....which is why it may never happen. I will applaud OCN if they can get something like that done.

It's all business for OCN and Ducky though, the GH board is for us to have something cool and different with no profits in sight.
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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:27:16 »
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Identical to Filcos, down to the "33" stamp on the ESC key.  I don't remember if the Ducky ABS keys are coated or not.  They better be or this is gonna be some major Shiny Key whining going on in a few weeks.



better than the infamous crooked space bar:


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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:34:17 »
The $140 version is PBT.  I decided that if I was going to buy one, I should buy the better version.

If anything, I might keep the wrist rest, and sell the keyboard to an OCNer.  We'll see.  Maybe the PBT version is better.


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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:34:26 »
Their "custom keyboard" is a freakin rebranded Ducky. Who would want that??

If anything, GH owns OCN by NOT putting out that ****.

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:36:15 »
Geekhackers did when they were easy to access.  Most of the OCN crowd will probably buy one for the logo. I bet if GH did the same thing, everyone would buy one just to have it.


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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:37:14 »
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They've always been crooked since iMav posted the first pic at Geekhack.
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It is a Chinese Clone of a Filco after all.

I assume like Metadot/Das the  Round Three or Four keyboards will be pretty good after they work out all the bugs.


The PBT keycaps or the white on white ABS version doesn't have that problem, Ducky probably got a faulted mold for their stock spacebar.

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:38:01 »
Who cares...the keyboard would still be completely uninteresting.

My goal was the complete opposite of what OCN is doing.

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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:40:04 »
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The $140 version is PBT.  I decided that if I was going to buy one, I should buy the better version.

If anything, I might keep the wrist rest, and sell the keyboard to an OCNer.  We'll see.  Maybe the PBT version is better.


The PBT gold lettering on black set should be fine (seems that's what's on that 9008 you bought), I bought separate set of them to put it on my RK-9000 :)

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:42:19 »
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Their "custom keyboard" is a freakin rebranded Ducky. Who would want that??

If anything, GH owns OCN by NOT putting out that ****.


Not even a re-brand! just another hideous logo on top of the ducky one.

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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:47:50 »
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Look, geekhack already responded with a new t-shirt  :twisted:

Webwit's getting it in.  Funny ****.


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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:55:30 »
Well consider this:

Awesome amazing custom keyboard that doesn't exist

vs.

Pretty good rebranded keyboard that does exist that's being released at a time when half the traditional mechanical keyboard brands/distributors are having trouble/not available.



Who cares if it isn't amazingly custom? If you can't get everyone to agree on what those custom specs should be (like GH hasn't been able to) then you won't get anywhere. But if you offer everyone the same basic package, and hits the major check boxes, then you're good to go.

And you have to admit, being able to order from OCN will be a lot more convenient than ordering from Taobao, and you can reverse the spacebar and put on the stock Ducky Esc key if you're a whiny ***** about it.
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« Reply #50 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 10:03:41 »
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Spending $140 for the lulz?



if anything is for the lulz, it'd be ordering a Filco from Armygroup for $160, with no PBT and no palm rest.

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« Reply #51 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 10:06:00 »
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I'd wait for Elitekeyboards and the Leopolds.

I call it, "The Second Coming"




It's taking about as long to happen too.
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« Reply #52 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 10:14:26 »
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It is a Chinese Clone of a Filco after all.

I assume like Metadot/Das the  Round Three or Four keyboards will be pretty good after they work out all the bugs.


They come from the same factory.
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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 10:26:28 »
You can actually turn it off in your profile options, the same section where you choose wide or normal theme. Scroll all the way down, it's opt out of animated banners or something like that.

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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 11:26:01 »
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So, is it the case that's bowed up in the middle, or is it the bottom of this spacebar that is bowed?
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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 11:36:54 »
OCN isn't making any money off the boards, they are just using them as advertising.

None of the mods are paid, except for the site admins who you never see, and Chipp, the head manager guy.
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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 11:57:02 »
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So, is it the case that's bowed up in the middle, or is it the bottom of this spacebar that is bowed?


Barrel distortion from a cheap camera phone. Chipp's SLR was having technical issues, something about a cranky SD card.
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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 12:03:35 »
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Barrel distortion from a cheap camera phone. Chipp's SLR was having technical issues, something about a cranky SD card.


i figured that was the case. just being difficult.  I actually think this a great deal.  Whether OCN excites you or not, with the standard switch spacing, you can just swap the spacebar for a blank one.  I'm starting to wonder why its so hard for the white ones to make it over here (the US) when there are SO MANY of them on Taobao.
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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 12:03:53 »
i might order one for work :>

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 13:20:48 »
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They come from the same factory.


Depends on the model. The 9000 series are Costars, the 1000 series are some other OEM like Datacomp.

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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 14:58:14 »
oh boy a na filco distro this is going to own, i need a tenkeyless to go

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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 20:20:24 »
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oh boy a na filco distro this is going to own, i need a tenkeyless to go


Um...what?

Anyway, I hope no one other than itlstln wasted their hard-earned cash on one of these.

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« Reply #62 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 01:13:49 »
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Um...what?

Anyway, I hope no one other than itlstln wasted their hard-earned cash on one of these.


Why's that?  A decent mechanical at cost?

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« Reply #63 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 03:03:54 »
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Why's that?  A decent mechanical at cost?


KL doesn't think Ducky keyboards are decent at all. After all they do have a crooked spacebar.
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« Reply #64 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 03:14:16 »
Apparently, the keyboardlover doesn't love all keyboards... I really don't get this ducky hate thing... does the origin of the keyboard matter? @.@
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« Reply #65 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 07:34:08 »
Ducky's are not well-made and there are plenty of in-depth reviews in the Reviews section that highlight the many build issues. If Topre is a Porsche then Ducky is the GM of mechanical keyboards. When Ducky came out all kinds of people were annoyingly fanboing them up here, without even owning them (like Moogle and lmnop). The flurry of buying them was followed by an even larger flurry of selling them in the classifieds section.

That's why I'm really surprised itlnstln even bought one. He was here when all that went down!

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« Reply #66 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 07:47:48 »
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Ducky's are not well-made and there are plenty of in-depth reviews in the Reviews section that highlight the many build issues. If Topre is a Porsche then Ducky is the GM of mechanical keyboards. When Ducky came out all kinds of people were annoyingly fanboing them up here, without even owning them (like Moogle and lmnop). The flurry of buying them was followed by an even larger flurry of selling them in the classifieds section.

That's why I'm really surprised itlnstln even bought one. He was here when all that went down!

I like my 1087, the build quality is quite shoddy compared to a Filco, but hey it's $40 cheaper than a Filco tenkeyless, AND the ducky comes with more features.

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« Reply #67 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 08:02:40 »
I'd say the Ducky is built well enough for most users. Especially the 90xx series which supposedly is the enthusiast series.
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« Reply #68 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 08:40:50 »
I'm going to start a group buy for this. I bet OCNers will jump all over it:


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« Reply #69 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 09:14:25 »
Lol...I was gonna say "I bet OCNers would buy an OCN-branded rubber dome keyboard".

And as it turns out, I was right.

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Nice, but how 'bout a rubber dome version that those of us on real-world budgets can afford? I'd love an OCN keyboard but 110 bucks would get me much better spent on a new platform.

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« Reply #70 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 09:36:06 »
I liked what this guy said.

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Very nice....but $110? I know mechanical keyboards aren't cheap.....but this just seems like a bit to me for what it is worth. Atleast its up to OCN standards I guess...


That guy gets it!

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« Reply #71 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 10:00:17 »
ducky keyboardz for tha win :D
too bad of the shiny spacebar in 3 months

but are they priced good they have like 30% profit.. its only 720RMB..
and not to say thats chinese consumer price..
what about if they get them fresh from the factory O_o
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« Reply #72 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 10:18:31 »
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ducky keyboardz for tha win :D
too bad of the shiny spacebar in 3 months


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« Reply #73 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 14:19:33 »
So much for wanting to promote the popularity of the mech KB.

All ducky is trying to do is provide reasonable price for good features and decent enough build quality to attract new comers. Gotta start somewhere to expand the user base right?
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« Reply #74 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 14:23:07 »
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7.  Overall quite a bit more successful than Geekhack Keyboard Round One and "Son of Geekhack Keyboard Poll".


I gotta praise OCer.net for their effort when a lot of people in the OCer.net don't appreciate mech keyboards, seeing posts like: mech keyboard is not durable because so many moving parts!

anyway, some food for thought :)
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« Reply #75 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 16:36:22 »
For what it's worth, I think what OCN is doing is great.  If they wanted some cheap promotion, they could have easily just gone rubber dome, printed their name on it, sold it for $50, and people would have bought those too.  At least they went mechanical offering two types of switches even.  Getting a super high end mechanical keyboard customized with logos would have cost prohibitive I'm sure.  Getting a specially made "one of a kind", original design OCN keyboard would also be out of the question.  By the way, it's not rebranded like some here say.  It obviously says Ducky on it.
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« Reply #76 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 16:41:08 »
Tator Tot says first day sales were higher than expected, second day sales still being tallied.
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« Reply #77 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 17:39:47 »
Meanwhile at OCN...



Trophies all around!


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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 20:11:03 »
So for $10 more I could buy a das? If it weren't for that damn glossy finish. Now where is Obook with my quote for a noppoo? I really want to try out a board with some cherry browns and I'm actually debating the ducky. I don't know why.
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« Reply #79 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 04:13:28 »
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So for $10 more I could buy a das? If it weren't for that damn glossy finish. Now where is Obook with my quote for a noppoo? I really want to try out a board with some cherry browns and I'm actually debating the ducky. I don't know why.


Obook might be having a day off on Sunday. Just wait for Obook to come back with a quotation for you on the Noppoo with browns. Many people have said it to be the best keyboard they've ever tried with browns.
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« Reply #80 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 04:18:18 »
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So for $10 more I could buy a das? If it weren't for that damn glossy finish. Now where is Obook with my quote for a noppoo? I really want to try out a board with some cherry browns and I'm actually debating the ducky. I don't know why.


with student discount you will even save money..
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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 12:28:42 »
Darn, if only they have the Ducky 1008 or 9000....
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« Reply #82 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 13:28:52 »
They're bringing 1087s in the second batch.
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« Reply #83 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 13:57:11 »
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Better hurry before Elitekeyboards starts shipping Leopold Tenkeyless and Filco starts up their North American distributor.


OMFG, are we are gonna see a Filco - Leopold Duel here on the free land?

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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 14:13:40 »
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Better hurry before Elitekeyboards starts shipping Leopold Tenkeyless and Filco starts up their North American distributor.


and unicomp ships the mini.:wink:

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« Reply #85 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 10:21:27 »
So what if its a cheap keyboard? Its still better than a rubber dome.

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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 10:39:35 »
I'm not completely in agreement with the direction of this thread.  I think $110 for a full keyboard with media keys, plate mounted switches, and ABS, standard stem placement, isn't that bad.  Especially since there is no official distrobution channel, besides tankguys.  Maybe the construction could be better, but if there is a serious quality issue that I am missing, please elaborate (I have read about the frame issues with the 1087).

For someone considering one of these keyboards (if not swayed by the OCN affiliation) what would you recommend in its place?
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« Reply #87 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 10:54:51 »
An OCN branded Das?  These people think that would be Geektastic.

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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 10:56:30 »
Also, I think William Dafoe's mother is in the front row of that picture.
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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 11:05:53 »
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There's no rush. Wait to see what's coming up from Filco and Elitekeyboards.

I got in touch recently with the guy who designed Filco/Archiss/Leopold (yes its the same guy). He was with Filco, now is with Archiss. His words to me were "Filco will be over...."

BTW, he said Archiss can do the GH custom tenkeyless. More info on that to come.

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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 11:55:38 »
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BTW, he said Archiss can do the GH custom tenkeyless. More info on that to come.

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 12:00:25 »
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"Filco will be over...."


Filster will be over.... T_T

Hopefully it isn't just a rebranded Archiss... gonna admit Filco used to be one of the best though.
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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 12:02:28 »
oh also i am missing a screw of my 1087 :(
there is a hole in it.. but there is not hole to screw the screw into..
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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 17:07:37 »
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I'd get a Das or BlackWidow first.


Why get a BlackWidow, it has plenty of reports of QC issues like the U9BL and Scorpius M10.

These seem like a much better value.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder though.
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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 17:10:12 »
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Why get a BlackWidow, it has plenty of reports of QC issues like the U9BL and Scorpius M10.

These seem like a much better value.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder though.


What quality check issues might there be?

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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 17:11:16 »
Ripster has more chips on his shoulder than an Intel employee in a Dorito factory.
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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 17:17:04 »
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What quality check issues might there be?


You don't have to look too hard on any computer hardware forum to hear a few reports. The most common one is they seem to die after a month or so on some people. I had one with a very stiff left shift. I'm sure that reseating it would have helped but thats not something that you should really have to do.

On the other hand the $70 or less blackwidow has a much more reliable warranty than the ducky.

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Some additional info:
  • Minor repairs will be handled by selected Overclock.net members with knowledge in peripheral repairs, while full RMAs will be processed out of Ducky’s California offices where they will facilitate shipping to Taiwan if needed. Buyer pays shipping both ways for minor repairs and pays one way for shipping for major repairs.
  • For now, we are treating this as a trial run. Quantity is very limited; however, we’d love to continue offering these in the future if all goes well.
  • To keep overhead down, all sales are final.
  • Shipping is estimated at between $13 and $16 for most people, and keyboards will begin shipping Tuesday (Feb 22nd).
  • See this link for international shipping info


If that doesn't concern you then I don't know what to say.

This is how I picture an OCN member working on a keyboard.

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« Reply #97 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 17:18:38 »
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I got in touch recently with the guy who designed Filco/Archiss/Leopold (yes its the same guy). He was with Filco, now is with Archiss. His words to me were "Filco will be over...."

BTW, he said Archiss can do the GH custom tenkeyless. More info on that to come.


oh sweet, geekhack keyboard here I come!

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« Reply #98 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:12:51 »
So... ignoring the childish comments and stereotypes about OCN members, why are these deemed bad keyboards by some in this thread?

Looking at the reviews of the Ducky 9008, it seems to be really solid.  The only complaint I've seen is that the casing is a little thinner than a Filco's (the benchmark it seems).  I'm not sure that I see what the problem is with build quality with these boards.  You can even get PBT key caps for a modest amount more.

Perhaps someone will elaborate?

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« Reply #99 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:18:19 »
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Perhaps someone will elaborate?


Check out the reviews in our review section. They have various crooked plastic pieces, among other issues. It's not a terrible keyboard really...just slightly sub-par. Not good enough to be "GeekHack recommended". We're elitists, it's true.

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« Reply #100 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:18:31 »
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Welcome to Geekhack!

Thanks Rip.  I've been reading up on these forums since you suggested it a few months ago and I'm really glad you did.  The amount of excellent information on this site is really refreshing and nice to see.

Finally made an account today. :)

Quote from: keyboardlover;299022
Check out the reviews in our review section. They have various crooked plastic pieces, among other issues. It's not a terrible keyboard really...just slightly sub-par. Not good enough to be "GeekHack recommended". We're elitists, it's true.

From what I've read, most of that seems to be true with the 1087, while the 9008 seems like a much more solid board.  I've read enough to know that there won't be a 1087 in my future.  Am I mistaken about the difference between the models?

Also, your talking to someone with $600 worth of earphones and $400 in amps/cabling, I know elitism. :)
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« Reply #101 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:25:26 »
I'm not sure...you may be correct. I'm honestly not well-versed enough in Ducky to tell you. Just know that they were tested pretty thoroughly here and overall opinions were not overly positive.

Also, hope you didn't take much offense to my OCN comments as they are in jest. I was mainly annoyed at folks saying "OCN pwned GH" since we have plans to possibly offer a custom keyboard. But it will be something really unique.

Itlnstln jumped on one as an impulse buy, and said he was doing it to spite me. He hasn't posted here in a few days, so I assume he's hanging his head in shame after realizing spending $140 on a Ducky from OCN really in no way spites me.
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« Reply #102 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:25:50 »
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What quality check issues might there be?
Broken key stems, short lives (dead in 2 or 3 months), spacebar metal bar colliding with near by keys, shift key issues, and F-Keys not working.
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« Reply #103 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:30:11 »
I wouldn't have very high hopes for Filco.

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« Reply #104 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:39:07 »
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I'm not sure...you may be correct. I'm honestly not well-versed enough in Ducky to tell you. Just know that they were tested pretty thoroughly here and overall opinions were not overly positive.

Also, hope you didn't take much offense to my OCN comments as they are in jest. I was mainly annoyed at folks saying "OCN pwned GH" since we have plans to possibly offer a custom keyboard. But it will be something really unique.

Ah I see.  More reading to do then. :/

Yeah I realized that most comments where. and yours in particular didn't bother me.  

I'm really happy that OCN has done this to help get the word about Mech. keyboards out to those who would otherwise be ignorant of or apathetic towards.  OCN is a very large medium with a lot of different people with different interests, so its nice to think that it will really help.  Hell if it wasn't for OCN I would have never even known about Mech. Keyboards in the first place.  And it was Ripster and Phaedrus that convinced me to buy my first Mech. Keyboard despite my doubts.  Now I'm shopping for my second after loving my XArmor U9BL, but realizing that the noise levels don't fit my lifestyle very well (late night gaming and not be single).

I would agree though, in the context of what I have read this seems to be completely different from the proposed GH keyboard.  

I suppose that I should not have gotten as defensive as I was.  OCN may not be my most frequented forum, but I enjoy it there and I enjoy the community (what I truly judge a forum on).  I can easily say that the community on GH has impressed me, however. :)

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Let's break it down and put aside the quality issues to startup problems (although if you look at our Classifieds you see a LOT of Duckys get sold).

The Ducky keyboards are at the wrong pricepoint.    At the over $100 level it's time to be picky.

You can get a Rosewill for $80-$100.

You can get a Razer with more features for about the same or the non-illuminated for $80.

You can get a Das with student discount for $100 or if you are not a student you get more features for slightly more.

Or you can wait for a $120 Leopold or a $130 Filco (assuming they get a North American distributor in March  or Q2).

You make a good point.  I seem to keep re-learning everything I thought I knew about Mech. Keyboards.  Now I'm debating about Otaku too...

The only thing the struck me about the classified section was the prevalence of Cherry MX Blue keyboards.  I suppose that says a lot.

I might have to post a thread for some help after all.
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« Reply #105 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 18:49:07 »
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If your source is the Leopold dude then I'd say the source could be a bit biased.

Seeing as he used to work at Filco, I would say he's a pretty un-biased source.

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« Reply #106 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 19:15:40 »
I fail to see the relevance.

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« Reply #107 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 19:32:36 »
You don't think Mr. Archiss doesn't have any ill feelings towards Filco?  Especially the words he said to you?  Sounds like ill will to me.
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« Reply #108 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 19:42:03 »
I guess it's possible. Just don't see why someone would say something like that out of spite. But believe what you want.

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« Reply #109 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 21:12:59 »
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It's business.

Just like Diatec dropping Elitekeyboards.  Nothing personal.

Crap - I lost the OCN contest to win a free one.  They probably didn't even put me in the hat.  1009 posts - boy, picking on OCN is like picking on an elephant.


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« Reply #110 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 22:31:56 »
My OCN Ducky is being shipped today.  I got impatient after the Rosewill RK-9000 went out of stock.

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« Reply #111 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 04:42:42 »
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You don't think Mr. Archiss doesn't have any ill feelings towards Filco?  Especially the words he said to you?  Sounds like ill will to me.


Sure, but that doesn't mean that anything he says should be automatically discounted as being bitter rage.

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« Reply #112 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 06:44:36 »
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Itlnstln jumped on one as an impulse buy, and said he was doing it to spite me. He hasn't posted here in a few days, so I assume he's hanging his head in shame after realizing spending $140 on a Ducky from OCN really in no way spites me.


I'm good with my purchase.  From the accounts here, the PBT version was pretty good.

Never did I say I was purchasing the keyboard to spite you, specifically.  It was in spite of the site as a whole, including myself.  We have been the "premier" North American keyboard site for over three years, and after OCN jumps on our keyboard bandwagon, they have a keyboard with their logo on it. We don't even have a re-branded keyboard, let alone a fully customized one.

I am willing to help out a GeekHack keyboard if you want to collaborate on something, I'm just a busy person and haven't had the time or desire to work on something by myself.

Besides that, everyone knows that iMav lets me out of the dungeon on the weekends.  I never post after about 4 p.m. on Friday.  This was a three day weekend, too.


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« Reply #113 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 06:55:07 »
Still, my idea is to offer something unique. What Ocn did wouldn't make sense here. It's a different community.

Well, agree to disagree I suppose ;)

iMav, let this guy out of the closet...err...cage more often!

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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 07:25:42 »
Shhh... don't tell anybody that I like to play with dongles.


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« Reply #115 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 08:04:05 »
whats so special about these, just look like all the other black generic mechanicals that have been out for years...slap a tiny little forum logo on the bottom of a spacebar and it's a special edition? maybe I wokeup on the wrong side of the bed today or somethig, shrug.
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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 08:21:00 »
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whats so special about these, just look like all the other black generic mechanicals that have been out for years...slap a tiny little forum logo on the bottom of a spacebar and it's a special edition? maybe I wokeup on the wrong side of the bed today or somethig, shrug.


ya except every other black generic mechanical is not readily available.

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« Reply #117 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 08:27:51 »
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=.=|||  where is our geekhack keyboard?


I think there will be a few this year.  The community has been bouncing ideas around.  I also have something I am working on that may come to fruition this spring.

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« Reply #118 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 08:31:57 »
iMav, if you need some help with anything, I would be more than willing to lend a hand.


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« Reply #119 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 08:34:23 »
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I think there will be a few this year.  The community has been bouncing ideas around.  I also have something I am working on that may come to fruition this spring.


oooh, secret project:eek:

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« Reply #120 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 08:52:49 »
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iMav, if you need some help with anything, I would be more than willing to lend a hand.

It will not compete with anything Archsis comes up with...so I hope we can continue to pursue that as well.


Just to make things clear.  It has never been a goal of geekhack to make money nor to pimp product.  Things like the cafepress store, the GH key group buys, etc are born out of member requests.  So, I don't see another forum coming out with a rebranded keyboard as a poor reflection on GH whatsoever.  More power to them!

My main goal in the keyboard deal I am working on is to get something I want (but I believe others will like quite a bit as well).  They will be offered for sale to GHers because I will have lots left over due to the minimum order quantity.  :)

Profits will go into the geekhack maintenance fund.

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« Reply #121 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 09:04:18 »
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They will be offered for sale to GHers because I will have lots left over due to the minimum order quantity.  :)


Define "lots" lol...

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« Reply #122 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 19:56:40 »
It seems like that one complaint about spacebars being crooked is just a cranky ripster



I wonder why he's so angry all the time.
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« Reply #123 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 21:29:09 »
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I wonder why he's so angry all the time.


It's from the cherry blues. Typing on them makes you angry, yet is satisfying at the same time.

Much like binge drinking.


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« Reply #124 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 23:36:56 »
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I need this...

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« Reply #125 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 23:51:35 »
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If I am not mistaken, it is a limited edition that is only available in China... ....... .........
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« Reply #126 on: Tue, 22 February 2011, 23:58:02 »
I rrrove brrracks.

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« Reply #127 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 00:02:46 »
Hmm, I wonder if OBook could get that for me...

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« Reply #128 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 05:29:17 »
Basically, I predict they won't be back to the US. Hope folks looking to get one like obook =)

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« Reply #129 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 07:35:13 »
F'shizzle:

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PCB got all renewed!

I'm glad they put some of those R&D funds into improving the key caps.

BTW, the pink 'board is hot.  If they did something like that in, say, something a little more masculine, I would be all over it.


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« Reply #130 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 10:35:56 »
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Hmm, I wonder if OBook could get that for me...


Blank white key and a sharpie.

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« Reply #131 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 13:32:22 »
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Blank white key and a sharpie.

I don't mean the escape key... :P I don't see the new pink boards up on taobao yet, so I don't know if I'll be able to track down a store that obook can order from for me.

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« Reply #132 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 14:34:23 »
"filco 中国莲"
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« Reply #133 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 14:58:07 »
NO!  I knew it would come eventually, but why so soon?  I just bought I white keyboard!

I think I could masculine-ize it.  Just put different caps on.  Orange keys on a pink board? hmm?

That heart key is ghetto... err, um... "Shabby Chic."
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« Reply #134 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 21:19:00 »
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"filco 中国莲"

Thanks!

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NO!  I knew it would come eventually, but why so soon?  I just bought I white keyboard!

I think I could masculine-ize it.  Just put different caps on.  Orange keys on a pink board? hmm?

That heart key is ghetto... err, um... "Shabby Chic."

I actually think it'd look good with black keys too, but I don't think you could pull off orange.

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« Reply #135 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 21:27:52 »
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I actually think it'd look good with black keys too, but I don't think you could pull off orange.

I'm actually colorblind, so it would look fine to me.  I would just get strange stares from others (more than I already get by using a blank keyboard at work).

I looked them up on Taobao (thanks to that translation above!) and it looks like most are around 950 to 1000 Yuan... So, about $145 to 150 US.  Not astronomical for a filco, but a lot for something still in it's home country.  I hope PCHome or Armygroup pick them up.

EDIT: I just realized that someone should probably move this to its own thread...  Since we are no longer talking about Ducky boards.
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« Reply #136 on: Wed, 23 February 2011, 23:27:40 »
Since when do we ever stay on topic here? :P I'll be ordering one as a birthday present for myself, I think. I may sell off one of my current keyboards to help put a dent in the price, or maybe some other misc stuff.

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« Reply #137 on: Thu, 24 February 2011, 01:17:33 »
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Since when do we ever stay on topic here? :P I'll be ordering one as a birthday present for myself, I think. I may sell off one of my current keyboards to help put a dent in the price, or maybe some other misc stuff.


I bought my first mechanical for my birthday last year.  Its an excellent choice 1) because its awesome 2) because most people won't believe that you actually want a keyboard for your birthday.
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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 07:11:04 »
Got mine today.  Nice keyboard.  I bought the uber-deluxe, PBT, $140 version with the wrist rest and extra keys.  No crooked spacebar and everything works like it should.  I'm not sure if they are manufactured by Filco or not, but if not, they did a great job knocking them off.   Without measuring, it feels about as heavy as the Filcos I used to have.  The only disappointing part about it is that the keycaps are pad-printed, and not in the Filco sense, either.  These are more like the old IBM white-on-black pad-printed style, so we'll have to see how long they stand the test of time.  Otherwise, I am very impressed.  The keycaps have a nice feel to them, but they are about as thick as the Filco caps, and you can definitely tell they are of a different plastic than the Filcos.  I kinda like the Filco stabilizers better, but the Cherry-style stabilizers in the Ducky are pretty nice.  Depending on what the Leopolds are like in a full-layout, I might get a Tiger/Keyboard of the Year/whatever edition for work and move the OCN version to the crib.  Overall, I have to give this a thumbs-up.

The wrist rest is pretty nice, too, but it makes my palms sweaty.  It could be a little taller, too.


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« Reply #139 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 09:25:47 »
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Pad printed PBT?

That sounds like a recipe for disaster.


It's definitely a surprising choice.  It's like a "Buy One, Get One Free" offer.  Buy the PBT, and get an Otaku version free (once you wear the printing off).  I contacted imsto to see if there were any 108-key, engraved sets available.  Otherwise, it's a great keyboard so far.  We'll see how I like it after a week's worth of use.


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« Reply #140 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 11:23:37 »
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Pad printed PBT?

That sounds like a recipe for disaster.

IBM M13 - Pad Printed PBT - lasts as long as Justin Beiber's musical career.


Haha. Well TBH if you care enough to buy a mechanical keyboard I would imagine you would care enough to learn how to type. :nerd:

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« Reply #141 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 11:35:44 »
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Haha. Well TBH if you care enough to buy a mechanical keyboard I would imagine you would care enough to learn how to type. :nerd:


True, but I would make a couple of points about this:

  • The way they did the pad-printing sucks.  It's not even as durable (in theory, I just got the 'board) as the method used by MS and Logitech, let alone Filco.
  • Why go out of your way to include premium key caps and use non-premium legending?
  • Myself and others do not mind the "Otaku" look to an extent, but sometimes it's handy when things like needing to type in (good) passwords since there is no on-screen confirmation of keystrokes.


All that said, minus the legending of the key caps, I have absolutely no problem recommending the DK-9008.  It's a solid 'board that, in my mind, is every bit as good as a Filco and, in some ways, better.  Perhaps some of the other models have QA issues, but I am very happy typing on the one I have.


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« Reply #142 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 11:44:13 »
While I can't speak to the overall quality of the Ducky tenkeyless 'boards, I will say the key legends are a disaster.  I wish I had a scale to weigh the 9008, but just by lifting, it feels roughly the same as a Filco.
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« Reply #143 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 11:52:55 »
Here are a couple of (bad) pics:





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« Reply #144 on: Mon, 28 February 2011, 18:21:11 »
I thought the OCN Keyboards (special edition) was supposed to be Lazered.

You sure you're not making a mistake on the printing method.
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« Reply #145 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 03:49:20 »
There is a new give away thread on OCN, but you needs to find it yourselves to prove your worthy.

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« Reply #146 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 07:16:31 »
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I can spot that low contrast lettering a mile off.


The printing is intentionally beige on this 'board.  It's not "dirty white."


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« Reply #147 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 07:27:49 »
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I thought the OCN Keyboards (special edition) was supposed to be Lazered.

You sure you're not making a mistake on the printing method.


It's a laser-burned legend with pad-printing over it.  You can scratch off most of the printing with your fingernail, but some of the printing will remain in the etched part so it won't disappear completely, but it still looks pretty sad.

Technically, you could call it "lasered with infill," but it's not like the Cherrys that are more "engraved" and filled in.


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« Reply #148 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 22:21:08 »
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It's a laser-burned legend with pad-printing over it.  You can scratch off most of the printing with your fingernail, but some of the printing will remain in the etched part so it won't disappear completely, but it still looks pretty sad.

Technically, you could call it "lasered with infill," but it's not like the Cherrys that are more "engraved" and filled in.
Thank you for clarifying that :)
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« Reply #149 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 06:36:14 »
I was a little shocked at how easy the printing came off the Esc key.  So far, I haven't seen any evidence of more wear; I'm hoping it stays that way, I actually like the khaki/black look.  If I were to do a double-shot order, I would consider a khaki/black combo.  If I wasn't so swamped at work these days, I would show these whipper-snappers how to set up a GO and get it shipped.


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« Reply #150 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 09:39:55 »
Hoping the keyboard stays nice and fresh for ya, itlnstln. Your feedback on it has been awesome to read over here. . . OCN has too many posts for me to keep up with. . . GeekHack's nice and peaceful!
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« Reply #151 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 09:50:21 »
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GeekHack's nice and peaceful!


I found that, too. I originally joined to see if I could get some help chosing a mechanical keyboard, but I'll probably stick around because it's not too big, the people seem nice and I have a fetish for computer accessories, especially mice and keyboards.

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« Reply #152 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 10:31:13 »
He's probably constipated. Didn't he buy a noppoo?

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« Reply #153 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 10:55:01 »
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Yeah, he bought one of those too.

Chinese keyboards are like Chinese food.  You get hungry quickly after buying one and have to order another.


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« Reply #154 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 11:01:51 »
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« Reply #155 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 19:44:29 »
And now I understand the whole GH custom keyboard thingggggggggg.
And why KL had not only taken the lead on this project but also initiated with the uniqueness, including rarer switches.  Yes, it now all makes sense!
Well, is this custom keyboard happening?  I'm still interested!
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Offline NimbleRabit

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« Reply #156 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 19:45:53 »
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I wonder if ItlnStln stopped posting because of the shame of buying a OCN Ducky?

That is one fugly spacebar.
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That is the ugliest spacebar I have ever seen.  It's almost unbelievable that they would make something so awful.



I'm curious, what are the lights on F9-F11 for?

Offline SmallWalrus

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« Reply #157 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 22:31:26 »
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That is the ugliest spacebar I have ever seen.  It's almost unbelievable that they would make something so awful.

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I'm curious, what are the lights on F9-F11 for?


The F9-F11 keys double up as extra function keys, can't remember which is which OTOH, but basically the LEDs indicate when extra functions such as...
  • Windows key lock
  • Windows key, Alt swap (for Mac users)
  • Ctrl key, shift swap (for some Linux nutjobs)


... are enabled :)

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Offline Phaedrus2129

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« Reply #158 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 22:59:47 »
Just some numbers you might be interested in.

The first batch of OCN keyboards was 240. We sold ~190, gave away ~50 in contests, had one defective (bad switch), and one return.

Current batch is selling excellently as well.

Hey Ripster, what was that about Ducky being low-quality?
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« Reply #159 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 00:15:57 »
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But why did you guys shut down the thread where everybody was complaining about the keycaps?

Heck if I know, I wasn't on staff then.
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« Reply #160 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 00:33:35 »
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You guys get paid?  That was a LOT of free keyboards given away.

We broke even or just above on a per-keyboard basis. Overall a loss counting the ones given away. OCN doesn't make money off its branded products, it makes money on advertising.

I'm not paid now, but I may be paid in the near future for basically doing the same thing, only in California and with a fancy title.
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« Reply #161 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 10:46:33 »
lol

Offline Phaedrus2129

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« Reply #162 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 15:07:24 »
Complain to Chipp if it really bothers you. ;)
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« Reply #163 on: Mon, 15 August 2011, 13:35:44 »
I'd bet the keyboards are basically written off in the OCN advertising budget,  probably a noticeable loss is taken. Notice people at other forums mention OCN when people ask about getting a Ducky? Pretty cheap compared to random website ads I bet, and a much better site visit return.
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« Reply #164 on: Mon, 15 August 2011, 13:39:21 »
blow your mindd
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« Reply #165 on: Tue, 16 August 2011, 01:34:31 »
For the record, the California gig is with a different company. Have to wait a couple weeks to see if it comes through though.

I've thought about proposing mechanical keyboards as a new product for them, since they have established global distribution channels, which no-one else in the market but Razer can say. But I doubt they'd go for it. A shame too, I thought up a business model and marketing stratergy and everything.
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« Reply #166 on: Tue, 16 August 2011, 01:46:05 »
I've heard from Tator and now you that there's a new company with global reach that is already strong in the USA that will enter mechs.

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« Reply #167 on: Tue, 16 August 2011, 01:56:34 »
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I've heard from Tator and now you that there's a new company with global reach that is already strong in the USA that will enter mechs.

Plainly you misunderstood me. The company I'm talking about has no interest in keyboards, to my knowledge. I'm going to pitch the idea after I get established there, but it will probably go over like a lead balloon (one not designed by Adam Savage).

I have no idea who Tator's talking about.
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« Reply #168 on: Tue, 16 August 2011, 18:34:25 »
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I wonder what it's like with the spacebar flipped?


Obviously it'd be ducked up.
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