Author Topic: Topre switch keyboard owner: Are you satisfied? (Read 48767 times)

o2dazone · « **Reply #50 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 16:14:56 »

Quote from: GenEric35;139364

if people could add a 20$ option when buying a keyboard, to include a carrying case, this would be perfect for those who do need a carrying case,

for example, I just ordered a white hhkb with no letters, to fit my igloo...
if i drop it in the snow, i might never find it again

I took a hair trimmer kit box and lined it with foam. Does the job, but it's ugly as sin lol

cheater1034 · « **Reply #51 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 17:00:25 »

I'm considering buying a happy hacking pro, i'm not 100% if i'll be able to adjust to the layout or not tho :\ (does it have delete/backspace keys?)

ch_123 · « **Reply #52 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 17:04:29 »

No. Users of Happy Hacking keyboards never make mistakes. Ever.

[size=-1](Depending on how you set the keyboard's DIP switches up, the button above Enter is either Delete or Backspace, and holding down Fn will make it do the other one)[/size]

bigpook · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 17:12:53 »

Quote from: paranonia;139342

Could you please show me where to find these scripts?

I'm also a Linux user by using HHKB now, thank you!

A thread of interest can be found here:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=5906&highlight=emulating+hhkb

bigpook · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 19:22:33 »

your nitpicking webwit. using the script is enough to get an idea of what an HHKB will be like.
I would rather run the script and find out that the layout won't work for me before I spend real money on an HHKB.
as for me, the emulation is 'good enough'. you are correct though, it may not suit everyone.

o2dazone · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 20:59:20 »

Quote from: cheater1034;139492

I'm considering buying a happy hacking pro, i'm not 100% if i'll be able to adjust to the layout or not tho :\

It doesn't take that long. It's much easier than switching from mouse to trackball, I'll tell you that. Emulate your Caps Lock <--> Control on a normal keyboard and the rest should come pretty easily.

cheater1034 · « **Reply #56 on:** Sun, 06 December 2009, 21:19:23 »

I'm considering one because they seem to claim that they are good for programming, and I'll be doing a lot of programming in the near and distant future.

Although it is hard for me to drop $250 :O, my other consideration is the filco brown (which is about half of the price), I'm just looking for something comfortable+quiet+not much foce, these blue cherries are nice but have become too loud, something else is up with them too, maybe it's the tacile bump that I'm not very fond of - i read that the topre's have a consistent motion through them which I would probably like. I have a somewhat bad wrist and the counter hand is also not in top shape (I broke my left wrist twice and had surgery, and have broken my right hand as well) - my left is a bit weaker than my right one still :\

compact size is good for me too, because I'd be travelling with it a bit probably using it on the laptop.

I can't believe I'm shopping for keyboards again

(since using a few mechanical I can't go back)

toffz · « **Reply #57 on:** Mon, 07 December 2009, 03:40:50 »

Decided that if I can manage to sell my Das, that will justify the Realforce purchase. And what do know! After a couple of days I had posted 'Das on sale' on a finnish computer forum, someone decided to make the switch

So to the webstore to order myself a christmas present

ch_123 · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 07 December 2009, 04:01:20 »

Are you ordering the Finnish layout Realforce?

toffz · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 07 December 2009, 04:51:31 »

Quote from: ch_123;139673

Are you ordering the Finnish layout Realforce?

Yep.

_js_ · « **Reply #60 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 11:14:46 »

FWIW, I bought a Realforce 103U with Topre keyswitches, and it has become my favorite keyboard, edging out my Model M and AEKII. And as soon as the 87U (or equivalent) becomes available in white at elitekeyboards, I'll be buying that model as well. Thought about the HHKB, but for my uses the layout is far from ideal so I've refrained from picking one up. Thought about hard. Really hard. But in the end, I knew it wouldn't work out for my uses.

rdjack21 · « **Reply #61 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 11:47:37 »

Yea I've been really surprised that Elitekeyboards has not carried the white 87U. I believe someone here got one from them though but it is still not shown on the site.

ch_123 · « **Reply #62 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 11:47:52 »

As far as I know, Brian can get you a white one if you ask.

didjamatic · « **Reply #63 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 11:51:40 »

I want a white 87u. What does Brian charge for them?

ch_123 · « **Reply #64 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 12:04:19 »

Quote from: didjamatic;140143

I want a white 87u. What does Brian charge for them?

Same as regular ones as far as I know.

itlnstln · « **Reply #65 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 12:05:40 »

Quote from: ch_123;140147

Same as regular ones as far as I know.

I think the only stipulation is that you have to wait until he places another order and gets that shipment in.

toffz · « **Reply #66 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 12:08:34 »

Thanks! Sure thing, no one had anything negative to say about the switches, except the price of the keyboards. Will be getting the RF tomorrow or on Thursday

didjamatic · « **Reply #67 on:** Tue, 08 December 2009, 14:27:22 »

Quote from: didjamatic;140143

I want a white 87u. What does Brian charge for them?

I want one too.

_js_ · « **Reply #68 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 15:26:21 »

Quote from: ch_123;140140

As far as I know, Brian can get you a white one if you ask.

Not true, sadly. I asked if he could and he said no. I asked if he could if I paid extra, and he said unless I was willing to buy 50-100 boards, I'd have to wait until about Feb of 2010.

didjamatic · « **Reply #69 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 15:52:00 »

Yes and that is really lame. What kind of supplier (Realforce/Topre) refuses to include a color variation on an order. They should easily be able to include 10 White boards and 90 Black on a purchase. I would buy a white 87u from overseas but the markup is ridiculous for all of them I've found so far. Combined with shipping makes it unreasonable.

I'm not blaming Elite for this issue, it's a supplier problem. I'm sure Elite would be happy to sell me two white 87u boards.

I guess there's always the option of getting a black 87u and then a white set of Topre caps from KBC if you want the tuxedo look.

HungryPillow · « **Reply #70 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 20:02:41 »

A white 87U with black alphabet key caps sounds pretty delicious right about now...

GenEric35 · « **Reply #71 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 20:34:00 »

is the sound of the 87u and 103 key different? When I listen to recordings the 103 always has a lower tone, and aside from the width, are both board the exact same construction?

ocdonkb · « **Reply #72 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 20:39:56 »

I've watched a lot of youtube Topre vids, they mostly sound the same to me. I don't own one of these, but the more I watch/listen, the more I want!

here's a few:

Realforce 103
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vcCFWf5fZk

Realforce 87
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNmKQh3YWpo&feature=related

GenEric35 · « **Reply #73 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 21:01:51 »

they do sound very similar, they should, could someone that has both shed some light on this?

didjamatic · « **Reply #74 on:** Wed, 09 December 2009, 22:55:56 »

Quote from: HungryPillow;140775

A white 87U with black alphabet key caps sounds pretty delicious right about now...

That's funny, I've been picturing a black one with white keys. Get a white 87u and maybe we can work something out.

The audio on those clips is very close to the real thing, but it depends on how hard you bottom out on each key. The more you bottom out, the more you'll hear and feel that "thumping" sound, the less you bottom out, the less you'll hear the thump sound. No matter how you type on this board, it's clean, tight, smooth and thocky.

I have the 103u (white) and 87u (black)... Hopefully I will be able to find 2 WHITE 87u's + numpads and I will be a happy camper at work and at home.

HungryPillow · « **Reply #75 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 03:02:04 »

Why don't you just swap the keys on the 103U and the 87U? Will they fit? I've only got a black 87U at the moment but wouldn't mind a white one to play around with...

toffz · « **Reply #76 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 03:28:14 »

Got my RF 105 yesterday! Coding with a big smile :biggrin:

xyzzy · « **Reply #77 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 04:17:19 »

Nice, congrats! Post some photos when you have a chance

rdjack21 · « **Reply #78 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 11:45:49 »

Quote from: toffz;140823

Got my RF 105 yesterday! Coding with a big smile :biggrin:

Congratulations! Yes they are great boards to type on. Now you get to enjoy the
Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber

toffz · « **Reply #79 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 14:27:43 »

I certainly am enjoying typing with the RF, but what do you guys mean with 'good feeling of oneness with the cup rubber'?

itlnstln · « **Reply #80 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 14:28:34 »

Quote from: toffz;140996

I certainly am enjoying typing with the RF, but what do you guys mean with 'good feeling of oneness with the cup rubber'?

Check out the writing on the box.

didjamatic · « **Reply #81 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 14:28:58 »

Quote from: toffz;140996

I certainly am enjoying typing with the RF, but what do you guys mean with 'good feeling of oneness with the cup rubber'?

It's printed on the Realforce box.

bigpook · « **Reply #82 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 14:37:53 »

I had a HHKB and strangely the 'good feeling of oneness with the cup rubber' is rather accurate.
I miss my feeling of oneness....sigh.

ch_123 · « **Reply #83 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 15:11:04 »

What happened to it?

bigpook · « **Reply #84 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 16:37:39 »

In a moment of stupidity, I sold it.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #85 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 17:42:26 »

I loved the Mr. Bill show. Don't put him or his dog near a Model M though...or that'll be the end of them!

bigpook · « **Reply #86 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 17:44:59 »

While the thought has crossed my mind, I would most likely get another HHKB ( white with lettering this time) versus the realforce. I don't think I would like the different weighted keys. And the layout of the HHKB is a plus.

is it xmas yet?

bigpook · « **Reply #87 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 17:58:38 »

ripster, you are my enabler : )

maxlugar · « **Reply #88 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 18:07:53 »

Quote from: bigpook;141078

ripster, you are my enabler : )

Satan is also an enabler

bigpook · « **Reply #89 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 18:23:53 »

: ) I need to find a little red devil.

ripster made me do it. honest.

bigpook · « **Reply #90 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 18:24:27 »

Quote from: maxlugar;141087

Satan is also an enabler

yeah, but I don't believe in satan, but I do believe in ripster.

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #91 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 18:27:44 »

Are you suggesting that Ripster can be comparable to Satan?

Rajagra · « **Reply #92 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 18:28:43 »

I've never seen them in the same room.

maxlugar · « **Reply #93 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 18:31:24 »

Quote from: bigpook;141098

yeah, but I don't believe in satan, but I do believe in ripster.

They will both lead you down the path...to spend more and more and more on keyboards.

BTW, do you believe in webwit?

microsoft windows · « **Reply #94 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:02:23 »

I believe in Windows. It accomplishes my computing needs very well.

bigpook · « **Reply #95 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:03:30 »

Quote from: maxlugar;141104

They will both lead you down the path...to spend more and more and more on keyboards.

BTW, do you believe in webwit?

I will be silent when it comes to webwit. I don't want to incur his wrath.

bigpook · « **Reply #96 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:04:39 »

Quote from: microsoft windows;141146

I believe in Windows. It accomplishes my computing needs very well.

windows is truly evil. far surpassing ripster and even webwit.

maxlugar · « **Reply #97 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:11:06 »

Quote from: bigpook;141151

windows is truly evil. far surpassing ripster and even webwit.

Are you referring to Windows as in the OS or our friend microsoft windows?

ch_123 · « **Reply #98 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:12:30 »

Both interpretations of that sentence are true.

ch_123 · « **Reply #99 on:** Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:27:43 »

We call them the same thing over here. You can tell how close you are to Dublin based on how fat the pigeons are...

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Author Topic: Topre switch keyboard owner: Are you satisfied? (Read 48767 times)