Yeah, from Gateron. The 6x spacebar is exactly the same as Cherry 6x spacebar.Awesome! I love the lower prices, and that more keys are included!
Yeah, from Gateron. The 6x spacebar is exactly the same as Cherry 6x spacebar. Yes, the 1.5 / 1u mods will have the same legends as the corresponding 1.25 key.Ah, so this is a different manufacturer from the last Black on Black group buy? What kind of differences can we expect? Nibs/Scoops/Thickness/etc?
Infiniti did an awesome comparison between other various manufacturers and these caps by Gateron here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71690.0). :D :DYeah, from Gateron. The 6x spacebar is exactly the same as Cherry 6x spacebar. Yes, the 1.5 / 1u mods will have the same legends as the corresponding 1.25 key.Ah, so this is a different manufacturer from the last Black on Black group buy? What kind of differences can we expect? Nibs/Scoops/Thickness/etc?
It's the same thing. Just better prices now since dealing with Gaterons source direct instead of middle company.What's the MOQ for Gateron? I'm sure there will be lots of interest at these price points.
It's the same thing. Just better prices now since dealing with Gaterons source direct instead of middle company.Oh okay yeah that is perfect! :] Thanks Ivan! :thumb:
Haven't even gotten round 4 yet, but I want another japanese set..Signed up for a Japanese set as well. Looks pretty dope! :cool:
These sets aren't really fit for an 1800... there is not enough row E keys for the nav cluster, or row D -, row C +... and if it's a winkey one the 1u would have wrong legends instead of Ctrl, Alt...
Most likely the 3 'extra' row B 1u keys will be something like menu, Fn, a Cherry logo or something other novelty.
The previous groupbuy should be done 2 months before this one. Usually production time is around that long, so probably delivery in August?
Oh man, i don't even need it but for that price...Nope, new members are welcome to join group buys!
There won't be a problem selling to me even though i'm new, i hope?
Oh man, i don't even need it but for that price...Nope, new members are welcome to join group buys!
There won't be a problem selling to me even though i'm new, i hope?
65$ for a keyset is too much for me, otherwise I would definetely go with Aurebesh:DARKSIDE set.
Indeed. With the exception of thin ABS or thin Taobao PBT keycaps everything else is much more expensive.65$ for a keyset is too much for me, otherwise I would definetely go with Aurebesh:DARKSIDE set.65 is a steal for a thick cherry profile PBT keyset like this. Pretty much all keysets ever made are/were more expensive than this other than cheap TaoBao junk.
I can't miss out of this. Submitted for 1 Aurebesh and 1 Japanese set. What an intense year for keycaps.
Bravo on the inclusion of all the 1800 keys. What is the stem spacing on the 6x space bar?
would i be able to combine shipping with my Cherry '98 order? Thanks Ivan.
The previous groupbuy should be done 2 months before this one. Usually production time is around that long, so probably delivery in August?
For those curious about shipping costs, please visit the USPS postage calculator (http://postcalc.usps.com/). Each set weighs approximately 7oz.Oh that's not so bad. Thanks for the tool.
This very deep grey / light black isn't a stock color, so as far as I understand it the MOQ is higher for custom colors.
It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
This very deep grey / light black isn't a stock color, so as far as I understand it the MOQ is higher for custom colors.
You haven't gotten any samples or anything before running the GB?
I'll go poke Gateron about this, the price you are getting sounds way too high for their blank and dyesub sets.
I'll see if I can get everyone lowered prices.
Unless you don't want me to go poke Gateron about it?
It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Is the 6u space bar center stem centered?I don't think the 6u spacebar is center-stemmed. It doesn't look that way from the pictures I saw.
It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.So excited. Sold my set on that GB due to wanting another set, but I'll be in on this one for sure! :thumb:
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Regarding the color, are you referring to the first IC you did with the clear top but that you dropped due to not enough interest?It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Well. Talked to Gateron. They don't wanna undercut imsto, so I'll not reveal the price, but they have allowed me to run the other colors (blanks and dyesubs) for cheaps.
Regarding the color, are you referring to the first IC you did with the clear top but that you dropped due to not enough interest?It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Well. Talked to Gateron. They don't wanna undercut imsto, so I'll not reveal the price, but they have allowed me to run the other colors (blanks and dyesubs) for cheaps.
It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Well. Talked to Gateron. They don't wanna undercut imsto, so I'll not reveal the price, but they have allowed me to run the other colors (blanks and dyesubs) for cheaps.
Regarding the color, are you referring to the first IC you did with the clear top but that you dropped due to not enough interest?
Yes. And they provide dyesubs too..... So I'll run the blanks first, and find out more about their dyesubs.
Probably run dyesubs after the blanks
Would love if the 1u r4 key could be a FN key.
yes for sure... they should have been as such last time actually.
Regarding the color, are you referring to the first IC you did with the clear top but that you dropped due to not enough interest?It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Well. Talked to Gateron. They don't wanna undercut imsto, so I'll not reveal the price, but they have allowed me to run the other colors (blanks and dyesubs) for cheaps.
Yes. And they provide dyesubs too..... So I'll run the blanks first, and find out more about their dyesubs.
Probably run dyesubs after the blanks
Regarding the color, are you referring to the first IC you did with the clear top but that you dropped due to not enough interest?It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Well. Talked to Gateron. They don't wanna undercut imsto, so I'll not reveal the price, but they have allowed me to run the other colors (blanks and dyesubs) for cheaps.
Yes. And they provide dyesubs too..... So I'll run the blanks first, and find out more about their dyesubs.
Probably run dyesubs after the blanks
Will offer the same color or are you intending on adding some more?
OK thank you for your answer.Regarding the color, are you referring to the first IC you did with the clear top but that you dropped due to not enough interest?It's the exact same thing as last time (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0). There are a bunch of pictures of sets in there, start at the end and work back.
I deal with imsto, these are the prices I am given.
Well. Talked to Gateron. They don't wanna undercut imsto, so I'll not reveal the price, but they have allowed me to run the other colors (blanks and dyesubs) for cheaps.
Yes. And they provide dyesubs too..... So I'll run the blanks first, and find out more about their dyesubs.
Probably run dyesubs after the blanks
Will offer the same color or are you intending on adding some more?
They only have the current colours for blanks, but for dyesubs I'm sure our font colours can be more varied.
YES IT WILL BE 100% the exact same thing as the last one.
It's expensive for international Priority... but not THAT expensive. It wouldn't cost that much unless order many sets to push the weight pricing tier up.
Nah, it's like $25... $60 must be for the 3 day.
Does the blank or the black on black US set come with a stepped caps-lock? I seem to have a weird mental issue where that is important to me. Thanks!
Perhaps I will make some sort of HHKB/Unix layout option for next time.
Ivan, is it possible to buy a set and individual keys from another set?
What are the "texts" that are going to be on the single keys that are circled below?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ECqKEFB.jpg)
I'm asking because I know it was blank on the previous GB. Are they "fn", "win", etc?
Thanks.
Ivan, is it possible to buy a set and individual keys from another set?
Whats the difference between these and vortex pbt black?This thread has comparisons with GMK, Vortex, BSP etc.; Gateron Blank PBT Key Caps, Cherry Profile (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71690.0)
Ok I'm taking these over vortex. Btw someone has pics of blanks?There are plenty of pictures on the last pages of PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.2460). Here are some pictures with Vortex PBT Blank Cherry so you can see the difference; http://imgur.com/gallery/GAFiJ/new (http://imgur.com/gallery/GAFiJ/new)
Crosspost (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1760163#msg1760163) from the Round 3 thread:
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageCrosspost (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1760163#msg1760163) from the Round 3 thread:
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
That's the kind of colour and detail you can expect from these sets. The dyesub looks very sharp.
Yes it is. You can see the legends a lot better if you click the image and open it in full resolution.Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageCrosspost (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1760163#msg1760163) from the Round 3 thread:
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
That's the kind of colour and detail you can expect from these sets. The dyesub looks very sharp.
That is the Cherry US layout correct?
Submitted my first GB ;D
Paid today! Really looking forward to these. It will be my first GH GB and my first full set of non-stock caps!
You chose well for your first, I don't think these will ever go out of style. ;)
Were there issues with the 7u space bar in the last round of production?
Will they be fixed this round?
Were there issues with the 7u space bar in the last round of production?
Will they be fixed this round?
From what I've heard, some shrunk more than others. Still, I feel that the vendor should have stricter QC if they sell these sets with the 7u spacebar.
This is my first group buy, what do I do after select the group buy?
I haven't gotten an email, did I accidentally put the wrong email? Or do I have to wait for something?
Can I get a quote on UK shipping for a set?
Can I get a quote on UK shipping for a set?
thank you for making this group buy and helping me out, but I ended up going for the massdrop ones. the milk color looks nice to me. thanks again.
This is my first time ordering off geekhack and more specifically a group buy as I am relatively new and just getting into mechanical keyboards! Hopefully someone can answer some questions.
Are you charging shipping after or how will shipping work? I want the blank black set which is $37+$5 dollar groupbuy fee.
And lastly, I am moving 1st of July). Will the keycaps come before then?
Thanks in advance!
No, ISO enter is not available yet. Perhaps ISO enter tooling will be finished and ready for the next round.
The chart of including keys is broken. Wondering what mods that will be included.
Hey Ivan:
In the order form it says extra cost for express shipping with insurance.
For an order to Canada, will the standard shipping have tracking and insurance?
I love the added layout compatibility. I have a standard keyboard but this makes future keyswaping a breeze!The chart of including keys is broken. Wondering what mods that will be included.
Same as the one in Shadovveds GBShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ijthkfB.jpg)
Just to be sure before paying invoice, the second option in this thread (CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub) is called Cherry US layout on the order form, and is called Dark PBT PRINTED key set on the invoice? I'm pretty sure they are all the same thing, just trying to make sure I order the right set.
Yes, check out replies 125 & 127Just to be sure before paying invoice, the second option in this thread (CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub) is called Cherry US layout on the order form, and is called Dark PBT PRINTED key set on the invoice? I'm pretty sure they are all the same thing, just trying to make sure I order the right set.
Could I get a rough estimate for the total cost of getting a blank set into the UK? The price of the set is great, I'm just worried about how expensive shipping and import custom fees will be. A general ballpark would be great.
Really hoping there's enough interest for an extras set (extra 2.25x shift, different mode, etc.) in the future. From reading through all the pages in this thread I know I'm not the only one out there that is looking for some extra keys to complete their keyboard set (FC660).Is it just the shift that is different on the Leopolds? What else is non standard on it?
Really hoping there's enough interest for an extras set (extra 2.25x shift, different mode, etc.) in the future. From reading through all the pages in this thread I know I'm not the only one out there that is looking for some extra keys to complete their keyboard set (FC660).Is it just the shift that is different on the Leopolds? What else is non standard on it?
Win, function and a blank I think. Ivan said it a few pages back.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ijthkfB.jpg)
What keys are the 1x keys in R4? thx
Really hoping there's enough interest for an extras set (extra 2.25x shift, different mode, etc.) in the future. From reading through all the pages in this thread I know I'm not the only one out there that is looking for some extra keys to complete their keyboard set (FC660).Is it just the shift that is different on the Leopolds? What else is non standard on it?
The single meta/windows key is also 1x. But that's really it.
Yea the ones that aren't the new Korean version (which have normal spacebar stems like the FC750RT) have the weird Leopold stabilizer placement. The spacebars in this set are compatible with the FC660 but IIRC you had to dremel down a stem that was too close or cut the plastic bit that's meant to guide the stabilizer.Really hoping there's enough interest for an extras set (extra 2.25x shift, different mode, etc.) in the future. From reading through all the pages in this thread I know I'm not the only one out there that is looking for some extra keys to complete their keyboard set (FC660).Is it just the shift that is different on the Leopolds? What else is non standard on it?
The single meta/windows key is also 1x. But that's really it.
Isn't the spacebar a bit different too? like the stem spacing or something like that ?
Yea the ones that aren't the new Korean version (which have normal spacebar stems like the FC750RT) have the weird Leopold stabilizer placement. The spacebars in this set are compatible with the FC660 but IIRC you had to dremel down a stem that was too close or cut the plastic bit that's meant to guide the stabilizer.Really hoping there's enough interest for an extras set (extra 2.25x shift, different mode, etc.) in the future. From reading through all the pages in this thread I know I'm not the only one out there that is looking for some extra keys to complete their keyboard set (FC660).Is it just the shift that is different on the Leopolds? What else is non standard on it?
The single meta/windows key is also 1x. But that's really it.
Isn't the spacebar a bit different too? like the stem spacing or something like that ?
Considering joining this group buy. Someone said that this set might have issues with the spacebar on a Novatouch. Can anyone confirm or deny this from the previous rounds because I would probably buy the Japanese for a Novatouch :) Thanks!Yes, you'll have to dremel off the extra stems:
Well that is a pain :X thanks for the response! :)I think the Vortex caps fit out of the box, so watch out for that it you don't want to get your hands dirty ;)
But I love the fact that these will have the Gateron thickness! Oh what a cruel world indeed! haha. I mean I guess I could buy a dremel but I'd rather not. Maybe I could buy and find a matching black PBT spacebar somewhere else for it.The Vortex caps are actually really thick:
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the keyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
I've heard Widebasket (http://www.ebay.com/usr/widebasket) on Ebay has them,Yea the ones that aren't the new Korean version (which have normal spacebar stems like the FC750RT) have the weird Leopold stabilizer placement. The spacebars in this set are compatible with the FC660 but IIRC you had to dremel down a stem that was too close or cut the plastic bit that's meant to guide the stabilizer.Really hoping there's enough interest for an extras set (extra 2.25x shift, different mode, etc.) in the future. From reading through all the pages in this thread I know I'm not the only one out there that is looking for some extra keys to complete their keyboard set (FC660).Is it just the shift that is different on the Leopolds? What else is non standard on it?
The single meta/windows key is also 1x. But that's really it.
Isn't the spacebar a bit different too? like the stem spacing or something like that ?
Nice, where can i buy one of these new Korean models ?
Just about to get another FC660m but this one is Korean made and has the standard space bar stems. I know the grey dye subs fit the chinese made with the narrow stems but does the space bar cap have stems for standard as well?
Many thanks
So I have been thinking about these keys alot and I feel that there is a serious lack of pictures in this thread. Hopefully these will inspire some more people to jump on board this awesome group buy. I stole these from pr0ximity, and I saw the OP on Reddit. Hope he doesn't mind me posting these, but these pictures inspired my purchase!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PGrZiEz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/atMEunM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nN9oKiV.jpg)
Is there any rough estimate of when the sets will ship?
will we receive them in 2015?
So I have been thinking about these keys alot and I feel that there is a serious lack of pictures in this thread. Hopefully these will inspire some more people to jump on board this awesome group buy. I stole these from pr0ximity, and I saw the OP on Reddit. Hope he doesn't mind me posting these, but these pictures inspired my purchase!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PGrZiEz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/atMEunM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nN9oKiV.jpg)
I don't even know why I bought these key caps because I don't even have a keyboard for them to go on, yet. Just another excuse for me to get a second keyboard as my other brother is currently using my poker II. I don't want to be an addict. ^-^
Invoice received and paid.
Just do it. This is the best all around. Great minimal look combined with awesome feels, thickness and durability. At least that is what I have convinced my self of. This is one of the best sets I have ever seen.So I have been thinking about these keys alot and I feel that there is a serious lack of pictures in this thread. Hopefully these will inspire some more people to jump on board this awesome group buy. I stole these from pr0ximity, and I saw the OP on Reddit. Hope he doesn't mind me posting these, but these pictures inspired my purchase!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PGrZiEz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/atMEunM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nN9oKiV.jpg)
Thanks for sharing. And then the temptations grew...
Unfortunately it is not a given :/ Ivan confirmed about 2-4 month time after invoice but I think in the past this buy had some considerable delays due to manufacturing problems. The last wave waited over a year if I am not mistaken. Seems like turn around will but much faster this time due to the fact that he working directly with the manufacturer and has already worked out the kinks. (Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, it is just what I have gathered from my conversations about this set.)Is there any rough estimate of when the sets will ship?
will we receive them in 2015?
That's kind of a given
Just a quick question to the set.
What lettering would the marked keys would have in a normal US dyesub set?
(Attachment Link)
Just wanted to know wether or not it fits perfect with a 1800 layout.
With blanks there would be only one R2 1u and one R3 1u missing to have a perfect fit for a 1800 layout...
Would it be possible to get those two keys with a blank set?
Paid
Can't wait to get these, now I just have to decide what to do with the other set I bought from Massdrop just before I saw this thread.
Is this okay for filco mj2 my friends? need to make sure.
I knew I wasn't the only one! What color combo did you pick on the massdrop buy?Paid
Can't wait to get these, now I just have to decide what to do with the other set I bought from Massdrop just before I saw this thread.
Shame on those that didn't get the blanks here!
I missed the boat on this one, but if there are any cancelled orders I'd be happy to pick up an Apple black on black set.
I missed the boat on this one, but if there are any cancelled orders I'd be happy to pick up an Apple black on black set.
I have a black on black standard that I can't pay for.
Any idea as to when these will start shipping out?
edit: found this where Ivan suggests "two to four months" after close, which was, what less than one month ago?
No more orders please.Have you been getting my messages Ivan? I wanted to know which ones I ordered since I know it was a decent sized one though I'm not sure how many f each set I got.
No more orders please.Could you kindly PM me which sets and how many of each set I ordered? I don't think my PM is getting sent to you but I got your original reply just now. Sorry about that.
Just wondering if the order is in or if, as the post title suggests, payments are still being collected?
Very excited to mix this set with the other gateron sets....Black with dark gray alphas. :thumb:
No more orders please.
There will also be some extras available afterwards.
There will also be some extras available afterwards.
There will also be some extras available afterwards.
can i call dibs now?
Sorry I haven't been on in a bit. I hurt my arm quite badly crashing on my BMX. Please don't worry, everything will get taken care of, but it may take me some time to respond to all of you.
For anyone who is not willing to wait, I'd be willing to take over their Cherry black on black order :)I could sell mine to you
That said, thanks for the update Ivan. Health always comes first, take your time. Geekhack will still be here.
Any chance of getting an OEM profile option on the next order?
Hey guys. If anyone is wanting a BoB set and a blank set, please PM me, and we can set up order transfers with Ivan. I need to cut out incomplete projects for now and refocus my priorities.
Yeah thats pretty odd. This will be my first Cherry profile set so I am pretty excited to see what the hype is about!Any chance of getting an OEM profile option on the next order?
Ivan only does Cherry profile.
Do you really prefer OEM profile? Nobody else on Geekhack does :p
Well, **** my arse... how did I miss this.
Would totally be up for a round3 if there's any possibility of one being ran; if not, i'm interested in the Hanguel caps.
Just a heads up again. I have an order for a US BoB set that's up for grabs. It was a separate invoice but combined with my first, so you'll have to pay shipping to Ivan separately. Just pay me for what I paid on the invoice, and it's yours. You can then work out shipping with Ivan directly.
Just a heads up again. I have an order for a US BoB set that's up for grabs. It was a separate invoice but combined with my first, so you'll have to pay shipping to Ivan separately. Just pay me for what I paid on the invoice, and it's yours. You can then work out shipping with Ivan directly.
How much are you selling them for? I've been wanting some of these recently. Cheers!
Just a heads up again. I have an order for a US BoB set that's up for grabs. It was a separate invoice but combined with my first, so you'll have to pay shipping to Ivan separately. Just pay me for what I paid on the invoice, and it's yours. You can then work out shipping with Ivan directly.
How much are you selling them for? I've been wanting some of these recently. Cheers!
I think he said list price so $65 plus shipping
Just realized that pbt4 took 8 months, does that mean that we will wait till feb 2016 for these? :o
Just realized that pbt4 took 8 months, does that mean that we will wait till feb 2016 for these? :o
Just realized that pbt4 took 8 months, does that mean that we will wait till feb 2016 for these? :o
Orders close 20 June. ALL payments due before 5 July.
Groupbuy for Dark PBT Cherry profile full sets.
Man I hope Ivan is ok been ages since he postedRight? I hope so too. I just want him to confirm my order!
How are we looking as far as a status update goes?
i don't want to be rude BUT, i mean, this guys has been offline for a month, what's the possibility that we were all scammed? :rolleyes:
i don't want to be rude BUT, i mean, this guys has been offline for a month, what's the possibility that we were all scammed? :rolleyes:
You guys need to stop worrying. Must be your first GB.
I'm not worried about the GB at all. I'm worried about Ivan's health lol.
I know that Ivan is alive. I don't know anything beyond that, but he at least seems to be okay. This isn't much info, but I wanted to share it since we haven't heard from him in so long. Hopefully he is able to get online soon. :)
You guys need to stop worrying. Must be your first GB.
I'm not worried about the GB at all. I'm worried about Ivan's health lol.
I know that Ivan is alive. I don't know anything beyond that, but he at least seems to be okay. This isn't much info, but I wanted to share it since we haven't heard from him in so long. Hopefully he is able to get online soon. :)
at least 1 sr mod has been in contact with him, no worries guys.
Interested in a Cherry US Int. BLACK on BLACK dyesub if someone wants to let go of their order :)
Is there an easy way to see what I ordered?You should have been sent a PayPal invoice at some point.
Is there an easy way to see what I ordered?You should have been sent a PayPal invoice at some point.
Has Ivan posted at all lately? Is he ok?
Has Ivan posted at all lately? Is he ok?
He is missing at the moment, he had a BMX accident and since then he hasn't been online. He is still alive and (we hope) well, maybe he is recovering at the moment? Let's hope that he hasn't used all our money on an operation or something...
Is it too late for me to get in on this action? :(
Are we ever going to get these? What is the update on this GB...The only update is everyone is waiting for Ivan to be able to return and give an update.
Are we ever going to get these? What is the update on this GB...Ivan hasn't even been online since September 14th. He is usually reliable, but that is a looooong time to be away. I don't think anyone knows what is up right now. I think we just have to sit back and continue to be patient.
As mentioned above, Ivan has gotten into a BMX accident.
As mentioned above, Ivan has gotten into a BMX accident.
He did post after the accident though. My concern isn't that he's taken our money and run, but that something more serious has happened to him. Has anyone here confirmed that he's still alive?
I did speak to him briefly the other day; he said he is working on group buy things, and will be updating once he makes some progress. I'm not sure if we can assume he has caps in hand or not, but he is not off on an island with our cash. :D
As mentioned above, Ivan has gotten into a BMX accident.
He did post after the accident though. My concern isn't that he's taken our money and run, but that something more serious has happened to him. Has anyone here confirmed that he's still alive?
From another Group Buy thread:I did speak to him briefly the other day; he said he is working on group buy things, and will be updating once he makes some progress. I'm not sure if we can assume he has caps in hand or not, but he is not off on an island with our cash. :D
Yeah, thanks for that. I hope he is ok.As mentioned above, Ivan has gotten into a BMX accident.
He did post after the accident though. My concern isn't that he's taken our money and run, but that something more serious has happened to him. Has anyone here confirmed that he's still alive?
From another Group Buy thread:I did speak to him briefly the other day; he said he is working on group buy things, and will be updating once he makes some progress. I'm not sure if we can assume he has caps in hand or not, but he is not off on an island with our cash. :D
I haven't been following this thread after I placed my order. The thread's title is changed to "(production)". Was it changed before or after Ivan's accident? Just wondering if the caps are really in production. Thanks.
also note he has several other GB's that are in various stages of completion that he has to watch over. Its not easy.
also note he has several other GB's that are in various stages of completion that he has to watch over. Its not easy.
I can understand why he doesn't log in. He's most likely neck deep in caps trying to sort them and get them shipped out.
Posted a while back, but no one bit so posting again! Due to moving I wasn't able to secure a set of blanks.
If anyone is willing to part a set of blanks let me know!
Posted a while back, but no one bit so posting again! Due to moving I wasn't able to secure a set of blanks.
If anyone is willing to part a set of blanks let me know!
you can get black blanks from geekkeys. im thinking of buying some there.
Posted a while back, but no one bit so posting again! Due to moving I wasn't able to secure a set of blanks.
If anyone is willing to part a set of blanks let me know!
you can get black blanks from geekkeys. im thinking of buying some there.
I know about those but they are pretty pricey compared to Ivans GB
Posted a while back, but no one bit so posting again! Due to moving I wasn't able to secure a set of blanks.
If anyone is willing to part a set of blanks let me know!
you can get black blanks from geekkeys. im thinking of buying some there.
I know about those but they are pretty pricey compared to Ivans GB
They'll also arrive about 3 months earlier!
Yeah I've moved on to Alps and sold my Cherry board so I'll definitely be selling my set once they arrive. That's hoping they ever do. I bought them off another user here and sent the new shipping info to Ivan, but I haven't heard any response, so here's to hoping he got my message! :thumb:
It's not blank unfortunately. It's the BoB US set. If that tickles your fancy, shoot me a PM!Yeah I've moved on to Alps and sold my Cherry board so I'll definitely be selling my set once they arrive. That's hoping they ever do. I bought them off another user here and sent the new shipping info to Ivan, but I haven't heard any response, so here's to hoping he got my message! :thumb:
Do you have the blank black set? Is there anyway I can buy it off of you? :D
It's not blank unfortunately. It's the BoB US set. If that tickles your fancy, shoot me a PM!Yeah I've moved on to Alps and sold my Cherry board so I'll definitely be selling my set once they arrive. That's hoping they ever do. I bought them off another user here and sent the new shipping info to Ivan, but I haven't heard any response, so here's to hoping he got my message! :thumb:
Do you have the blank black set? Is there anyway I can buy it off of you? :D
Do you have the blank black set? Is there anyway I can buy it off of you? :DIt's not blank unfortunately. It's the BoB US set. If that tickles your fancy, shoot me a PM!
also note he has several other GB's that are in various stages of completion that he has to watch over. Its not easy.
I can understand why he doesn't log in. He's most likely neck deep in caps trying to sort them and get them shipped out.
I wouldn't mind a quick update...
So, i paid almost 180 days ago, since that was the day limit to open a case, i decided to open one on the paypal resolution center. Ivan refunded me about 12 hours later so i guess he's not dead. I just don't understand why he doesn't come to the forum and JUST POST SOMETHING
You and me both brother. I'm disappointed that I'll be getting my b.face pcb and stuff from LearndreN's GB possibly before this.So, i paid almost 180 days ago, since that was the day limit to open a case, i decided to open one on the paypal resolution center. Ivan refunded me about 12 hours later so i guess he's not dead. I just don't understand why he doesn't come to the forum and JUST POST SOMETHING
That's interesting, wish I had thought about this before the 180 days were up for me. Oh well, looks like I am waiting this one out then.
Sorry I have not been around for awhile.
I just would like to let you know things are still in the works. Please be patient. Sometimes things can take longer than what was initially expected.
If you can PLEASE stop initiating paypal disputes I would really appreciate it. I simply don't have the money to be refunding everyone as it is tied up in product.
If you have an urgent inquiry, please simply send an email. Starting paypal disputes to send a question is not helpful.
THANKS.
Sorry I have not been around for awhile.
I just would like to let you know things are still in the works. Please be patient. Sometimes things can take longer than what was initially expected.
If you can PLEASE stop initiating paypal disputes I would really appreciate it. I simply don't have the money to be refunding everyone as it is tied up in product.
If you have an urgent inquiry, please simply send an email. Starting paypal disputes to send a question is not helpful.
THANKS.
I'll let my Black on Black set (US) set go for $70.shipped? PM incoming...
I'll let my Black on Black set (US) set go for $70.shipped? PM incoming...
It has been a good few months and we really need more progress updates. I know your a busy man but your last update didn't really tell us anymore then you being alive and well (Not being rude or anything). Please more detail would much appreciated.
Thanks.
It seems like Feng is stocking original BoB dyesub sets on his site.
Just want to leave this here as an opportunity for those who missed Ivan's GB.
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/ (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/)
It seems like Feng is stocking original BoB dyesub sets on his site.
Just want to leave this here as an opportunity for those who missed Ivan's GB.
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/ (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/)
It seems like Feng is stocking original BoB dyesub sets on his site.
Just want to leave this here as an opportunity for those who missed Ivan's GB.
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/ (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/)
Whoa... That's cheaper than the GB
Out of stock but a good deal for sure. Does anyone know if this is the same thick Gateron PBT? I would be all over this if I wasnt waiting for the group buy still. Even so its tempting. Perhaps when they come back in stock next month if we don't have some solid status updates.It seems like Feng is stocking original BoB dyesub sets on his site.
Just want to leave this here as an opportunity for those who missed Ivan's GB.
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/ (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/)
Whoa... That's cheaper than the GB
Looks nice, but it sort of bugs me that the Control legend is bit too centered compared to the rest.
Geekkeys is getting these caps back in stock on the 15th of January. I've pre-ordered some already ;DOut of stock but a good deal for sure. Does anyone know if this is the same thick Gateron PBT? I would be all over this if I wasnt waiting for the group buy still. Even so its tempting. Perhaps when they come back in stock next month if we don't have some solid status updates.It seems like Feng is stocking original BoB dyesub sets on his site.
Just want to leave this here as an opportunity for those who missed Ivan's GB.
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/ (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/)
Whoa... That's cheaper than the GB
Looks nice, but it sort of bugs me that the Control legend is bit too centered compared to the rest.
How much was this for Canadian buyers using paypal with printed? What's on top of that 65 dollar price?Shipping was $13USD, and a $5 fee.
I had a buddy receive his already and was wondering if anyone else that participated in the GB had as well.Nothing here
Anyone else receive their keys yet?
I had a buddy receive his already and was wondering if anyone else that participated in the GB had as well.
Anyone else receive their keys yet?
I had a buddy receive his already and was wondering if anyone else that participated in the GB had as well.Nothing here also
Anyone else receive their keys yet?
I had a buddy receive his already and was wondering if anyone else that participated in the GB had as well.
Anyone else receive their keys yet?
I had a buddy receive his already and was wondering if anyone else that participated in the GB had as well.did he order it through geekkeys?
Anyone else receive their keys yet?
May I inquire as to the status of this?
Can anyone confirm if these are dyesubbed by Enjoypbt in house (which would make sense, since they actually own the keycap moulds and what not), or does IMSTO have a hand in dyesubbing these, and Enjoypbt is only supplying the caps?
I have also spoken to him,An email or a PM? I need to do the same.
As he said in a previous post, if you have something urgent, just send him an email. I needed to change my shipping address, he responded the same day.
I have also spoken to him,An email or a PM? I need to do the same.
As he said in a previous post, if you have something urgent, just send him an email. I needed to change my shipping address, he responded the same day.
Hi guys - I've moved away from MX based keyboards, so I no longer want/need this set. So if anyone would like to take over my order, please PM me. I hope this kind of thing is OK with Ivan.
It is an Apple black-on-black set; I've paid $86.12 (paid for shipping to UK), so that's what I'm asking.
Anyone want my cherry black on black order for 60$?
3mo since last update. Which was just him whining about people wanting their money back after not hearing from him for over 100 days.
Confused how this can be defended at all.
3mo since last update. Which was just him whining about people wanting their money back after not hearing from him for over 100 days.
Confused how this can be defended at all.
Anyone want my cherry black on black order for 60$?
50$? (sorry for spam)
Keycaps don't get made from thin air. Bluegaloo started in April if I recall, and I only got keys towards the end of last month, so around 9-10 months.
As for whining, the money is all sent to production. Any refunds at this point come out of pocket, if I'm not mistaken. I would be upset at people backing out at the production stage as well.
come on bro he doesn't have any time to post here, he needs that time to change his profile image
Any update?
A bit disheartening as my first group buy on geek hack. I think I'll stick to mass drop from now on, they even had these caps...They definitely didn't have these caps. The originative caps are ABS.
Oh good to know. I'm all about PBT. I'll keep an eye out then. I'm just whining mostly. I've got a keyboard waiting for them with cheap Vortex PBT that needs replacing!A bit disheartening as my first group buy on geek hack. I think I'll stick to mass drop from now on, they even had these caps...They definitely didn't have these caps. The originative caps are ABS.
Don't be disheartened. Lots of great GBs on GH.
Oh good to know. I'm all about PBT. I'll keep an eye out then. I'm just whining mostly. I've got a keyboard waiting for them with cheap Vortex PBT that needs replacing!A bit disheartening as my first group buy on geek hack. I think I'll stick to mass drop from now on, they even had these caps...They definitely didn't have these caps. The originative caps are ABS.
Don't be disheartened. Lots of great GBs on GH.
The one who waits for a long time always waits for something good(swedish saying, sound like **** in english though)"Good things come to those who wait."
Any update?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7tb2HgH.png)
Nope ...
The one who waits for a long time always waits for something good(swedish saying, sound like **** in english though)"Good things come to those who wait."
The no update thing kinda sucks atleast say that your not going to be able to post for a while due to whatever not a half ass update or screaming at us to stop backing outI agree. A positive update would do wonders for moral.
I am going to back out of this Group buy through paypal dispute. I do not mind having my money hold up for more then a few months or even up to a year if the seller provided updates (at least once every month or 2 months) or reason to his absence. His last update on this thread was from 04 December 2015, 3 months ago which is totally unacceptable from my point of view. Sorry I hate to do this ivan but you leave me without any other option.
I am going to back out of this Group buy through paypal dispute. I do not mind having my money hold up for more then a few months or even up to a year if the seller provided updates (at least once every month or 2 months) or reason to his absence. His last update on this thread was from 04 December 2015, 3 months ago which is totally unacceptable from my point of view. Sorry I hate to do this ivan but you leave me without any other option.How can you file a dispute if the payment was so long ago?
I agree with mar82. There's a few people on here willing to buy someone's order. You should make a post with what you have and how much you want to transfer it for. I'm sure someone will snag it up! Please don't file a dispute though.I am going to back out of this Group buy through paypal dispute. I do not mind having my money hold up for more then a few months or even up to a year if the seller provided updates (at least once every month or 2 months) or reason to his absence. His last update on this thread was from 04 December 2015, 3 months ago which is totally unacceptable from my point of view. Sorry I hate to do this ivan but you leave me without any other option.
Hey dude, if you really want to back out of this GB please sell your order and do not file a PP dispute. Or at the very least send Ivan an email asking if he can give you your money back, it would be way better than filling a dispute, unless your goal is create havoc
Not trying to create havoc it was never my intent but it is unacceptable that has give one update since the 8 month span of this group buy. now I agree that i may have gone overboard but finding a seller online is to take my place is hard (for the price i paid)I am going to back out of this Group buy through paypal dispute. I do not mind having my money hold up for more then a few months or even up to a year if the seller provided updates (at least once every month or 2 months) or reason to his absence. His last update on this thread was from 04 December 2015, 3 months ago which is totally unacceptable from my point of view. Sorry I hate to do this ivan but you leave me without any other option.
Hey dude, if you really want to back out of this GB please sell your order and do not file a PP dispute. Or at the very least send Ivan an email asking if he can give you your money back, it would be way better than filling a dispute, unless your goal is create havoc
EDIT: I should probably be nicer but honestly I just feel like whipped dog waiting for scraps of information as handout or something.
EDIT: I should probably be nicer but honestly I just feel like whipped dog waiting for scraps of information as handout or something.
I thought you were very reasonable and genuine in your thoughts.
I, like many others, thought that this would be a quick and safe GB since Ivan had a very good reputation. Thankfully, I'm in a position that if this falls through I won't miss the money terribly. However, I'm of the opinion that this buy isn't going to get completed. Ivan came online at the end of January and didn't update this thread at all. To me, that sends a pretty clear message. Please prove me wrong Ivan. Make us whole.
If the money from this buy is already spent then that means that our keycaps should be out there somewhere in this world. An update would do wonders to help the moral of this thread.
I would like to sell my set but how does it work ? What do I need to doJust list what you bought and would like to sell and find someone willing to take your place. Then just PM Ivan (if he ever get on that is) the address change and username that's taking over.
japanese?
one day, when i have time, i'll gather up all of those "come on bro, it´s ivan, don´t worry" posts :-*
It's true. His only update was a non-update that held no meaningful information.
No information to go on, people like swimmingbird early in the thread saying it's a given that it'll be here by 2015 still saying they will show soon. It's 1/4 the way through 2016 now. Waiting is fine. Waiting for a meaningful update should not be this ridiculous. Defending this kind of non-action makes even less sense to me.
Ivan, did you hurt yourself again? Take a vow of silence? Still choosing your next profile pic? What possible reason do you have for not giving us a two sentence update like 'Is in production. Shut up now' or 'Sorting them out. Sending soon'? I feel like these are basic things and easy to type out on your way to work or before logging off to go to bed :/ I work full time and fence. Busy schedule. Still have time to type quick things out.
EDIT: I should probably be nicer but honestly I just feel like whipped dog waiting for scraps of information as handout or something.
Let's talk to ImstoI agree.
i recently sent a pm to imsto, telling him what happened in the other thread.
Asked him to come here to make a statment.
It would appear, we have likely been scammed. :( Check the Miami Nights Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71507.msg2100322#msg2100322)
I hope so! I really wanted these stupid caps. I'm so disappointed. :(It would appear, we have likely been scammed. :( Check the Miami Nights Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71507.msg2100322#msg2100322)
we might still have a shot if these went into production.
Now I'm happy I was just getting the blanks. Less money involved.
Well, lesson learned, I guess.
Has Ivan lost his global mod?
I can't believe this happened. I know that all group buys have a risk but everyone said we could trust Ivan. This is my first and last group buy on GeekHack. I can't express my disappointment. I make 14k a year and spending $60 on a keyset is not trivial for me. We really got boned...
It be great to get some input from the Mods, maybe HoffmanMyster? Is there any positive confirmation that this buy is boned other than the lack of order for Miami Nights?
Has Ivan lost his global mod?
my guess is GH is trying to distanced themselves from this. which is understandable as being a GH mod has nothing to do with what is happening.
Thanks for the update ffoH! Hopefully things sort themselves out and we can all move on from this :thumb:It be great to get some input from the Mods, maybe HoffmanMyster? Is there any positive confirmation that this buy is boned other than the lack of order for Miami Nights?
I reached out to Ivan last night when things started getting shaky (before the news was posted in the GMK buy thread), to A) verify he is alive and well and B) follow up with a direct inquiry as to the status of these three buys. I did receive an email back from him last night (I mistakenly said in the GMK buy that he had not responded, which is not true - I didn't see his response at the time) and he said all is fine but he is not active much (I had not asked about the buys at this point). I have responded asking very pointedly for an update re: lack of orders placed. No word yet, but I will update as I can.Has Ivan lost his global mod?
my guess is GH is trying to distanced themselves from this. which is understandable as being a GH mod has nothing to do with what is happening.
This is really just the last straw for us. Mods need to be active or we will de-mod them. We've done it before with other mods that were not involved in such incidents and were simply inactive. If this whole fraud ordeal is truly what's happening and not a misunderstanding, we would have de-modded him, yes. But not in any way to cover things up - simply because it's what would need to be done at that time.
Hope this helps clear things up on our end. I will be making a more formal post when I have a bit more time to devote to it.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
Maybe Ivan's in trouble...... hope he will come back quickly and give me the money.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
It be great to get some input from the Mods, maybe HoffmanMyster? Is there any positive confirmation that this buy is boned other than the lack of order for Miami Nights?
I reached out to Ivan last night when things started getting shaky (before the news was posted in the GMK buy thread), to A) verify he is alive and well and B) follow up with a direct inquiry as to the status of these three buys. I did receive an email back from him last night (I mistakenly said in the GMK buy that he had not responded, which is not true - I didn't see his response at the time) and he said all is fine but he is not active much (I had not asked about the buys at this point). I have responded asking very pointedly for an update re: lack of orders placed. No word yet, but I will update as I can.Has Ivan lost his global mod?
my guess is GH is trying to distanced themselves from this. which is understandable as being a GH mod has nothing to do with what is happening.
This is really just the last straw for us. Mods need to be active or we will de-mod them. We've done it before with other mods that were not involved in such incidents and were simply inactive. If this whole fraud ordeal is truly what's happening and not a misunderstanding, we would have de-modded him, yes. But not in any way to cover things up - simply because it's what would need to be done at that time.
Hope this helps clear things up on our end. I will be making a more formal post when I have a bit more time to devote to it.
Since you helped him sort his past GB, can't you visit his house? On assumption that you know him well enough in real life, that is.
I can't believe this happened. I know that all group buys have a risk but everyone said we could trust Ivan. This is my first and last group buy on GeekHack. I can't express my disappointment. I make 14k a year and spending $60 on a keyset is not trivial for me. We really got boned...
So sorry bud. :(
Maybe Ivan's in trouble...... hope he will come back quickly and give me the money.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
Maybe Ivan's in trouble...... hope he will come back quickly and give me the money.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
Hey guys, I'm a receiver of two sister group buys. I'm guessing Ivan is sorting your GB and will be sending it out next. PBT4 is done, yours was made, Miami Nights was not ordered. I hope we get some confirmation, but this _is_ status quo for this leader.
Maybe Ivan's in trouble...... hope he will come back quickly and give me the money.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
Hey guys, I'm a receiver of two sister group buys. I'm guessing Ivan is sorting your GB and will be sending it out next. PBT4 is done, yours was made, Miami Nights was not ordered. I hope we get some confirmation, but this _is_ status quo for this leader.
I pity imsto's lost more than my ownMaybe Ivan's in trouble...... hope he will come back quickly and give me the money.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
Hey guys, I'm a receiver of two sister group buys. I'm guessing Ivan is sorting your GB and will be sending it out next. PBT4 is done, yours was made, Miami Nights was not ordered. I hope we get some confirmation, but this _is_ status quo for this leader.
I don't know why you've suddenly jumped to the defense of Ivan
Sure I can get things taking a long time to post but there is literally no reason for him not to order Miami Nights
Also he has not paid IMSTO despite them sending the goods to him - pretty ****ty behaviour
I pity imsto's lost more than my ownMaybe Ivan's in trouble...... hope he will come back quickly and give me the money.
All the black keys had been sent to him one month ago. Think he should at least send you all the keys what ever happened
Hey guys, I'm a receiver of two sister group buys. I'm guessing Ivan is sorting your GB and will be sending it out next. PBT4 is done, yours was made, Miami Nights was not ordered. I hope we get some confirmation, but this _is_ status quo for this leader.
I don't know why you've suddenly jumped to the defense of Ivan
Sure I can get things taking a long time to post but there is literally no reason for him not to order Miami Nights
Also he has not paid IMSTO despite them sending the goods to him - pretty ****ty behaviour
Gonna buy sets directly from him from now on :-X ... if he ever stocks
Please send the following:- Paypal invoice from Ivan for relevant GB
- Paypal receipt from relevant GB
- Your contact details, including name, geekhack username, phone number and address [optional]
Please send the following:- Paypal invoice from Ivan for relevant GB
- Paypal receipt from relevant GB
- Your contact details, including name, geekhack username, phone number and address [optional]
How do you want us to send you the Paypal stuff? Should I save the forms as a PDF and put them as an attachment?
Please send the following:- Paypal invoice from Ivan for relevant GB
- Paypal receipt from relevant GB
- Your contact details, including name, geekhack username, phone number and address [optional]
How do you want us to send you the Paypal stuff? Should I save the forms as a PDF and put them as an attachment?
I think a screenshot should be enough.
swimmingbird, That is quite a bit of personal information that you are trying to collect. What could you do with all the buyers' information? What could the information prove to the relevant authority?
Ivan replied to personal email, why doesn't he post on this thread with his update? It is one thing he gave up on the site and the hobby (I have been off here for quite some time), it is quite another when you are holding tens of thousands of dollars from people who trusted him.
swimmingbird, That is quite a bit of personal information that you are trying to collect. What could you do with all the buyers' information? What could the information prove to the relevant authority?he hasn't been on since the 28 of January? How is he suppose to reply.
Ivan replied to personal email, why doesn't he post on this thread with his update? It is one thing he gave up on the site and the hobby (I have been off here for quite some time), it is quite another when you are holding tens of thousands of dollars from people who trusted him.
He may not be on since January. But he is alive and he is well enough to reply to personal email. He knows he owes GH people tens of thousands of dollars. He is not replying not because he has not been on Since January. He is not replying because he doesn't have the guts to come back here.
He is not replying because he doesn't have the guts to come back here.
He is not replying because he doesn't have the guts to come back here.
If you're not in contact with him, how can you be sure of this?
To get a good outcome for all of us, even Ivan, it really comes down to making these actions steps simple for him. Reduce the barriers, so we can all move beyond this awful and stressful situation. The posts about contacting authorities or legal action might not be the best first step. These actions should only be take if there is no other solution, such as the GB money is gone.
He may not be on since January. But he is alive and he is well enough to reply to personal email. He knows he owes GH people tens of thousands of dollars. He is not replying not because he has not been on Since January. He is not replying because he doesn't have the guts to come back here.
People have this unfortunate but understandable tendency to fill in gaps of knowledge with speculation. Which is what people are doing here, with exception to Hoff and IMSTO. I'm not defending Ivan and his actions/inactions because I'm also pissed about the lack of communication and fraud potential of this GB. However - you cannot know the mind of another and coming here telling everybody what you believe is motivating Ivan is not constructive.He may not be on since January. But he is alive and he is well enough to reply to personal email. He knows he owes GH people tens of thousands of dollars. He is not replying not because he has not been on Since January. He is not replying because he doesn't have the guts to come back here.
You're assuming Ivan cares about the community and the people in it... He's not showing his face not because he doesn't have the guts to... it's because he doesn't care about gh nor anyone from it. He gained all he could and left... what would be the point of him coming back here now?
TBone is the smart one.
I've sent an update email to everyone who has reached me on the gmail address
If you don't get it for some reason the gist of it is reach out to paypal as soon as possible and file a claim with them
Even though it is outside of the 180 day dispute period if enough people come forward they can investigate Ivan and take action against him
I wonder what happened to Ivan. This was the first group buy I joined along with the CF-LX group buy (both of which I dropped out of, but more for financial reasons over fraud or delays), and back then, everyone was backing up how reliable Ivan was and how he's been a trustworthy GB leader since 2013.
So what happened? :-X
I'm not going to open a dispute because if the caps ever do come through I still want them. However, if you're looking to open a dispute, you can do so by following the instructions on the following page. It looks like it will allow you to open a dispute for older orders, but who knows what their response will be.Where do you see, in that link, where we can submit a dispute for orders place over 180 days out?
https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#13
You cant. I've tried already. Paypal would not even look at a depute after 180 days. I was shocked that swimmingbird was even able to get a response from paypal considering the circumstances.I'm not going to open a dispute because if the caps ever do come through I still want them. However, if you're looking to open a dispute, you can do so by following the instructions on the following page. It looks like it will allow you to open a dispute for older orders, but who knows what their response will be.Where do you see, in that link, where we can submit a dispute for orders place over 180 days out?
https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#13
So it's safe to assume that we would likely never see that money again?
Funny thing is, you can now order the set from imsto himself: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=108
Funny thing is, you can now order the set from imsto himself: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=108
Has been there for quite sometime and not in all the layouts proposed for this GB. I think they are remnants from round 1.
Funny thing is, you can now order the set from imsto himself: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=108
Has been there for quite sometime and not in all the layouts proposed for this GB. I think they are remnants from round 1.
You had one bad experience and you're never joining another again? How many good group buys have u had and how many bad ones?This is my first GeekHack GB. I have done about 10 buys with MassDrop with no hitches.
guys... I'm really sad about this :(
it's a bad look for the community as well..
how many people will never do a group buy ever again because of incidents like this.
still keeping my fingers crossed though that Ivan comes through... i really want my AUREBESH
guys... I'm really sad about this :(
it's a bad look for the community as well..
how many people will never do a group buy ever again because of incidents like this.
still keeping my fingers crossed though that Ivan comes through... i really want my AUREBESH
guys... I'm really sad about this :(
it's a bad look for the community as well..
how many people will never do a group buy ever again because of incidents like this.
still keeping my fingers crossed though that Ivan comes through... i really want my AUREBESH
The thing is, it happens ALL the time with this community. Everytime I say that people come and say it isn't that often but it is...And what makes it worse is a good portion of the time it is from very very senior members of the board...
It really does feel like you have very senior members who are looking to get out of the hobby a bit and as one last hurrah they rip off the community for a bunch of money....Because of the nature of GBs all of the time limit protections go out the window.
Paypal or someone needs to have some sort of escrow/settlement group that holds the funds which means the GB Runner needs to front the money (and if you can't too bad). It means the GB Runner is entitled for some margin (cost of money etc) and the holding company is entitled to some but at least we wouldn't have this issue. Once the Runner says "I'm shipping" there is a clock to deliver the goods and proof of delivery will release the funds. I was going to say maybe someone could perform this function but given how many members you might've trusted in the past have ripped off the community that idea would suck.
There really needs to be someone that goes after these people in some way...legal or otherwise...
No order link?
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No order link?
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No order link?
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This gb is long over man. The runner ran off with everyone's monies.
No order link?
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This gb is long over man. The runner ran off with everyone's monies.
Oh crap just realised - man that sucks. Hope some resolution comes of it some day.
No order link?
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This gb is long over man. The runner ran off with everyone's monies.
Oh crap just realised - man that sucks. Hope some resolution comes of it some day.
The moderators are trying to get it all worked out; but, what Ivan did, is just plain horrible.
Are you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that the community should give you $17500 to make your custom board a reality without any guarantee they'll receive it?
Sounds pretty ridiculous right?
Are you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that the community should give you $17500 to make your custom board a reality without any guarantee they'll receive it?
Sounds pretty ridiculous right?
Alright so every single groupbuy is ridiculous with that logic.
It's all trust based, and I feel like I have been around long enough and established myself as a friend to many to deserve that trust. You may not trust that anyone will deliver, and that's up to you, but keep in mind that there have been many many more successful buys than failures.
Plus there are some locals who would quite literally beat me if I tried to scam anyone. ;)
Are you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that the community should give you $17500 to make your custom board a reality without any guarantee they'll receive it?
Sounds pretty ridiculous right?
Alright so every single groupbuy is ridiculous with that logic.
It's all trust based, and I feel like I have been around long enough and established myself as a friend to many to deserve that trust. You may not trust that anyone will deliver, and that's up to you, but keep in mind that there have been many many more successful buys than failures.
Plus there are some locals who would quite literally beat me if I tried to scam anyone. ;)
he is subscribed to the dog newsletter so I can vouchAre you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that the community should give you $17500 to make your custom board a reality without any guarantee they'll receive it?
Sounds pretty ridiculous right?
Alright so every single groupbuy is ridiculous with that logic.
It's all trust based, and I feel like I have been around long enough and established myself as a friend to many to deserve that trust. You may not trust that anyone will deliver, and that's up to you, but keep in mind that there have been many many more successful buys than failures.
Plus there are some locals who would quite literally beat me if I tried to scam anyone. ;)
Are you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that the community should give you $17500 to make your custom board a reality without any guarantee they'll receive it?
Sounds pretty ridiculous right?
Alright so every single groupbuy is ridiculous with that logic.
It's all trust based, and I feel like I have been around long enough and established myself as a friend to many to deserve that trust. You may not trust that anyone will deliver, and that's up to you, but keep in mind that there have been many many more successful buys than failures.
Plus there are some locals who would quite literally beat me if I tried to scam anyone. ;)
look at my boy bill, he did an amazing job with his GB and it was lots more than 50 setsAre you suggesting that I, an unemployed student, should front the money to make my custom board a reality? $350 x 25-50 is no small amount.
Are you suggesting that the community should give you $17500 to make your custom board a reality without any guarantee they'll receive it?
Sounds pretty ridiculous right?
Alright so every single groupbuy is ridiculous with that logic.
It's all trust based, and I feel like I have been around long enough and established myself as a friend to many to deserve that trust. You may not trust that anyone will deliver, and that's up to you, but keep in mind that there have been many many more successful buys than failures.
Plus there are some locals who would quite literally beat me if I tried to scam anyone. ;)
If your GB is successful at $350, I'll eat my sock. First of all, that price point is a pipe dream. Second, the design is untested. Third, just trying to assemble and ship the parts for 25-50 keyboards is a huge undertaking on its own, including the logistics of buying and storing all that equipment. Finally, you've been a member since March 31, 2015. That isn't all that long, dude.
I did a mini-GB of 7 Epsilons. It was a huge pain in the ass and I barely pulled it off. Good luck with yours, brah.
Imagine if there were some type of business entity we could organize group buys through.. so buyers wouldn't have to funnel all their money into one person who may or may not deliver and/or provide periodic updates ;) ;)
*cough* massdrop *cough*
Imagine if there were some type of business entity we could organize group buys through.. so buyers wouldn't have to funnel all their money into one person who may or may not deliver and/or provide periodic updates ;) ;)
*cough* massdrop *cough*
Massdrop can also raise costs and doesn't seem to be the best option for high cost, low quantity items. Just look at the comment section of any GMK sets and you'll see what sort of crowd it attracts. Nothing against massdrop, it just doesn't seem like the best option for a lot of the groupbuys run here.
I remember hearing something about the GH mods looking into this and Ivan's other failed group buys. Anyone know what the current status of that investigation is?
No order link?
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This gb is long over man. The runner ran off with everyone's monies.
Oh crap just realised - man that sucks. Hope some resolution comes of it some day.
The moderators are trying to get it all worked out; but, what Ivan did, is just plain horrible.
For the record, the Mod team and site Admin are not working on this. We were not involved with this in any way. Ivan was a moderator, however he is responsible for his own actions. Hoffmanmyster did attempt to reach out to him asking for information, but i do not believe he has heard anything back from him. I am sure if he did, he would have posted in Ivan's threads informing everyone.
I do hope Ivan sorts this all out though. It may be a pipe dream at this point, but hope is about all we can have right now.
I emailed Ivan at the end of January to make sure that he got the change of address since I purchased the set off of another user sometime last year, and he quickly replied with "Sure, it's all fine."
I sent him another email just now to the same email address and I got a failed return from Google.
This confirms he is gone.
Next!
Welcome to thieving central, called Geekhack. Hope you enjoy the results here :p .Hey, now. As much as I regret bumping this thread, I'd like to point out that statistically, most GBs are successful, even timely by GB standards.
what's the status of criminal procedure?
No one ever not going to sue him?
what's the status of criminal procedure?
No one ever not going to sue him?
Not worth the legal fees unfortunately
what's the status of criminal procedure?
No one ever not going to sue him?
Not worth the legal fees unfortunately
Good.
He is obviously happy. Without penalties with money.
Great Justice of America
what's the status of criminal procedure?
No one ever not going to sue him?
Not worth the legal fees unfortunately
Good.
He is obviously happy. Without penalties with money.
Great Justice of America
No one is stopping you from suing him
May I ask why you need this information?
May I ask why you need this information?
Validation that the information is accurate. To save time and confirm jurisdiction.
Would the folks who claim to have met the guy confirm the name on the invoice? A yes or no would suffice.I've sent him stuff and that was the real name.
Am sad all over again every time this thread is bumped. :(
Thanks.Would the folks who claim to have met the guy confirm the name on the invoice? A yes or no would suffice.I've sent him stuff and that was the real name.
Are these shipping yet?
Are these shipping yet?
Ivan HAS NOT logged into his account recently. That was the mod team (me) logging in to see if there was anything of value to be found there, what with the recent ebay activity and happenings outside the forum.