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Offline bavman

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« on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:27:07 »
So it seems that theres a pretty large growing demand for the Red Alert set that KBD did a while ago. Obviously it would be improper for us to copy their set with custom legends and get on their bad sides, but it shouldn't be a problem to make our own red on white basic set. This will use SP's standard text and legends so there would be no custom legends like the one on RA sets. This would make it cheaper for us as well.

Colors would probably be RA on WA:
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(hashbaz's photo)

Heres some different ideas i created with illustrator. Last image is messed up though cause i couldn't figure how to change the color of the menu key...but you get the idea it would be white on red.
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Not sure if someone else was planning on doing this, but it would sure look pretty sexy

Please throw out your ideas/comments

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http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31871-quot-Red-Alert-quot-Group-Buy-Contents
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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:29:13 »
Me in plz no custom caps  that will make price ri****

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:33:52 »
Ragnorock planned to do such a GB soon I believe.

Also, we could use the cherry font replica.

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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:37:40 »
Well if rag is gonna run it soon we'll leave it to him :)
I thought he was running the portal one again next

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:39:17 »
He was first thinking about doing the red on white after the portal set, but changed his mind and will run both at the same time.

But I believe he said he'd put them up last week. So well.

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:40:53 »
any of those other colors on WA would look pretty nice as well
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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 15:50:08 »
I got the template from hazeluff's template zip. The nav clustor would probably be just regular sp arrows

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:02:02 »
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He was first thinking about doing the red on white after the portal set, but changed his mind and will run both at the same time.

But I believe he said he'd put them up last week. So well.

Rag will post it any day now. I'll go with either.
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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:02:58 »
The template with the red modifiers look amazing! Too bad it's still going to be made by SP...
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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:07:54 »
I'm in no matter what this set end up looking like

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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:08:01 »
Rag is running it last I spoke with him
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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:08:19 »
Let's do it with the Cherry font once that is sorted and get it done properly! I do think that it needs something a bit more interesting to make it feel slightly C&C though...

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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:12:00 »
Also WA is too bright I don't suggest it, RR would look better then RA i think also but these are just my suggestions
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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:13:03 »
Grey modifiers like topre alert!!!
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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:14:00 »
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Grey modifiers like topre alert!!!

I would agree on this also but the red modifier isnt bad

I especially like the red G and red H

ALSO!

Dyesubs please, I went ahead and got pricing for the base 87 set along with tsangan kit and 10keypad kit also like 2 weeks ago when I was speaking about this set :)
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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:17:22 »
Could the enter key say something like "affirmative" as a nod to C&C? :D

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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:19:07 »
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Could the enter key say something like "affirmative" as a nod to C&C? :D

Please no, but if yes please include a regular enter key
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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:19:54 »
I'm not sure about dye-sub, although the pbt feels a little better than abs, but it'll drive prices to near $100 level if we do that

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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:20:53 »
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Please no, but if yes please include a regular enter key

Just a thought, this IC is really nice and I would just like to see it have a little bit more edge to it.

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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:22:22 »
Meh, isn't the point of this set to have some very aggressive red smothed by the white? Wouldn't dyesub remove all the aggressivity of the red?

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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:22:40 »
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I'm not sure about dye-sub, although the pbt feels a little better than abs, but it'll drive prices to near $100 level if we do that

nope, its not that bad, 25%-30% more expensive yes, but the keys will last MUCH longer, and will have nice texture instead of shiny nastiness
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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:23:22 »
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I'm not sure about dye-sub, although the pbt feels a little better than abs, but it'll drive prices to near $100 level if we do that


I'd buy the dye-subs even if they're at that price level. SP's PBT is actually fairly decent, compared to their ABS quality. Just take a look at the nyancat keys!
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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:23:36 »
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nope, its not that bad, 25%-30% more expensive yes, but the keys will last MUCH longer, and will have nice texture instead of shiny nastiness

Give us an idea of how this will look ;)

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:24:05 »
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I'd buy the dye-subs even if they're at that price level. SP's PBT is actually fairly decent, compared to their ABS quality. Just take a look at the nyancat keys!

Even better then imsto!
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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:25:16 »
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Give us an idea of how this will look ;)

nyan cat, meme keys are exemple of SP's dyesub PBT.

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:26:19 »
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Even better then imsto!


imsto's keys are flawless... except for the white capslock :)
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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:26:37 »
How about this vs red mods?

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I guess it could be darker actually

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:26:54 »
Isn't the clarity of the legend much better on a DS?

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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:27:16 »
Quote from: longweight;602154
Give us an idea of how this will look ;)
Everything highlighted in bold I know we'll hit for sure, likely to be even more as GH has grown a lot in size lately

Prices is without shipping, handling and PP fee.

Pricing for the variations is below:
Standard 87 key layout:
25 sets          $95.50 / set
50 sets          $83.01 / set
75 sets          $78.84 / set
100 sets        $76.76 / set
150 sets        $74.68 / set
200 sets        $73.64 / set
250 sets        $73.01 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $75
 
NumPad Addon Kit:
25 sets          $40.89 / set
50 sets          $35.36 / set
75 sets          $33.52 / set
100 sets        $32.60 / set
150 sets        $31.68 / set
200 sets        $31.22 / set
250 sets        $30.94 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
 
11 Key 'Tsangan' Addonkit:
25 sets          $28.80 / set
50 sets          $23.25 / set
75 sets          $21.39 / set
100 sets        $20.47 / set
150 sets        $19.54 / set
200 sets        $19.08 / set
250 sets        $18.80 / set
**SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:28:39 »
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How about this vs red mods?

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I guess it could be darker actually


that is what you want.

in dye sub.
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:29:17 »
OH and we can do ANY FONT in dyesubs
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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:30:41 »
Where can that red alert topre set be found? :O

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:31:10 »
Really? could we get faux cherry ones then in dye-sub then without the extra setup charges?

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:31:22 »
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OH and we can do ANY FONT in dyesubs
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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:31:57 »
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Where can that red alert topre set be found? :O

Edit: Helvetica or Futura!

can't, thats a sample.

but http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28054-Interest-Check-Topre-quot-Red-Alert-quot-Keycaps-Red-Print-on-White-Caps

002 is trying to make it happen and topre/rf has shown interest
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:31:59 »
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Everything highlighted in bold I know we'll hit for sure, likely to be even more as GH has grown a lot in size lately

Prices is without shipping, handling and PP fee.

Pricing for the variations is below:
Standard 87 key layout:
25 sets          $95.50 / set
50 sets          $83.01 / set
75 sets          $78.84 / set
100 sets        $76.76 / set
150 sets        $74.68 / set
200 sets        $73.64 / set
250 sets        $73.01 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $75
 
NumPad Addon Kit:
25 sets          $40.89 / set
50 sets          $35.36 / set
75 sets          $33.52 / set
100 sets        $32.60 / set
150 sets        $31.68 / set
200 sets        $31.22 / set
250 sets        $30.94 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
 
11 Key 'Modifier' Addonkit:
25 sets          $28.80 / set
50 sets          $23.25 / set
75 sets          $21.39 / set
100 sets        $20.47 / set
150 sets        $19.54 / set
200 sets        $19.08 / set
250 sets        $18.80 / set
**SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40


That for dyesub? WHAT FONT WOULD WE PICK?!

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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:32:14 »
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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:32:50 »
Heres one with slightly darker mods then:

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I still like the pure white keys...they look sooooo nice :bounce:

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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:32:52 »
I have made my case for dye subs

-a bit more expensive
-MUCH better quality
-ANY font

DS
-Cheaper and that's it nothing good about it
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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:33:58 »
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Heres one with slightly darker mods then:

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I still like the pure white keys...they look sooooo nice :bounce:

too bright for those mods.

a softer white would be better IMO.

also PLEASE lets pick a color that SP can actually match unlike what they did with kl's set.
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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:34:33 »
The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a set

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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:35:16 »
I also would go for the dyesubs. But not with greyish modifiers. And maybe not pure white...

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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:35:48 »
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The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a set
Depends on the GB organizer. If it was me I wouldn't have accepted it, knowing first hand I know SP will replace any keys are are done improper
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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:36:30 »
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The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a set


well, we can make it perfect if we don't accept half assed work and we let SP know from the beginning
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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:36:50 »
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The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a set


We can take our time and get perfect prototypes with the kind of interest in this set. Really, SP's dyesubs >>>> DS.
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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:37:49 »
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We can take our time and get perfect prototypes with the kind of interest in this set. Really, SP's dyesubs >>>> DS.

Very very VERYYY true
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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:39:10 »
also, i really really think we should go for different color modifiers.

an all red on white is just... boring. the topre alert set is perfect IMO.
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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:39:33 »
I would buy this in a heartbeat.

Do it. Do it...

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« Reply #48 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:40:15 »
We should definitely get a poll going then

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« Reply #49 on: Mon, 28 May 2012, 16:40:17 »
two tone is the way to go i think :)
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