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Title: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | GB is live!!!!!!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 04:41:35

GROUP BUY: September 6th to October 8th

GB LINK HERE. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114489.0)


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About
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Hi everyone, we are Milkyway Keys.

We are a relatively new PBT keycap manufacturer from China and we have ran several China exclusive GB since 2020. We have been continuously improving our product and now we are confident to present them to keyboard community around the world.
Currently we have very short lead time (1~2 months after GB) and we are open to designers to run their sets with us!

Today we present you our own set: PBT 02 & PBT 015. We designed these two sets due to popular demands from our fans from China. We are aware that is existing set on the same theme but this is our brand new take on the theme.

Please fill out IC Form (https://forms.gle/DbMNEurZHdbwgqwo6) if you are interested!

Please join Milkway's Discord Server (https://discord.gg/ecxzfnue5P) for more updates!


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Specs
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Cherry Profile PBT keycaps
Regular dye-sub and reversed dye-sub
$95 for base kit + novelties + spacebars


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Kitting
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PBT 02
(https://i.imgur.com/09fGHmA.jpg)
Base Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/rdy543l.jpg)
Novelties

(https://i.imgur.com/uRyadkA.jpg)
Spacebar Bars


PBT 015
(https://i.imgur.com/FPeB2Lg.jpg)
Base Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/ShJQxGb.jpg)
Novelties

(https://i.imgur.com/HVeRUAa.jpg)
Spacebar Bars


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Deskmats
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(https://i.imgur.com/SG1peeg.jpg)
Deskmat 02

(https://i.imgur.com/9M8vVCL.jpg)
Deskmat 015


Two new deskmats credit to she.days (https://www.instagram.com/she.days/)

(https://i.imgur.com/z6QxyQ5.jpg)
Deskmat Pink-girl

(https://i.imgur.com/OwHdgcj.jpg)
Deskmat Blue-girl

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Collabs
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ZeroTwo Artisan by THOK

(https://i.imgur.com/sAuPtki.png)  (https://i.imgur.com/8oz8TWB.png)


We are collaborating with Miroticaps (https://www.instagram.com/miroticaps/) for to bring you Mirocard collectable for PBT 02 & PBT 015

We will be running this giveaway as a 48 hours promotion.

This means that any one who purchased a set of PBT 02 or PBT 015 within the first 48 hours of GB will receive a corresponding Mirocard for their set. The two cards combine into one image so maybe you could consider getting both.  :D

The cards will be shipped inside the Milkyway's packaging, so you wouldn't have to worry about receiving a separate package for the Mirocards.

These are the rarities for the Mirocards:
Holo Rarity - 95%
Designer Signature Holo Rarity - 5%

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Lxbqn8mbYsV9IW0bOc/giphy.gif)  (https://media.giphy.com/media/s8iKJP511ZufMjG4nS/giphy.gif)


(https://i.imgur.com/Sj9EtFf.png)
02 & 015 Mirocards


Cables by Rocket Cables

(https://i.imgur.com/mbG35AL.png)

02 Cable


(https://i.imgur.com/0ZzFLEf.png)

015 Cable

Purchase cable collab here (https://www.rocketcables.com/products/gb-pbt-02-015-custom-cable)


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Review videos
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PBT 02 review by Jimmy Nguyen



PBT 015 review by Sviz



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Sample photos
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We have been manufacturing these set for the China GB, here are some photos taken on our set.

(https://i.imgur.com/pB1i3eH.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/0pOEMHJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Fqgq7do.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/7y8j2qM.jpg)
Sample photos for PBT 02


(https://i.imgur.com/CzXuG8Q.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/qtloRfU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/deKPvU1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HdXucgs.jpg)
Sample photos for PBT 015


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Vendors
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AU: Daily Clack
Canada: KanataKeys
EU: CandyKeys
SA: Fancy Customs
SEA: ZionStudios
UK: Prototypist
US: KeysPensory

China GB was done by Milkyway Keys, so no CN vendor needed for international GB.


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Pricing
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For this GB, we are selling base kit + novelties + spacebar as one package.

The US pricing will be $95 for both PBT 02/PBT 015. Leadtime will be 2~3 months after GB.

International Pricing

(https://i.imgur.com/o43aZLs.png)



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GB Dates
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September 6th to October 8th




Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 04:42:53
Changelog
2021.08.21 Updated with US pricing.
2021.08.09 Updated 2 new deskmats
2021.08.08 Updated with Mirocard giveaway and review video
2021.07.30 Updated with GB date and Collabs
2021.07.21 Updated deskmat design
2021.07.16 Full vendor list and deskmat
2021.07.10 Updated vendors and pre-order information
2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos

To do list
Find Vendor
Update IC with prototype picture
Update Kits for international run
Set GB dates
Pricing
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: ee on Tue, 22 June 2021, 04:43:03
**** ip laws amirite fellas
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 04:44:43
**** ip laws amirite fellas

  :)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: roguesystem087 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 04:49:16
any prototypes?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Lenux on Tue, 22 June 2021, 04:50:42
Poggers, EU vendor please NOT UK.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 05:10:24
any prototypes?
new round of proto pic will be taken very shortly after. will update on it
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 05:10:48
Poggers, EU vendor please NOT UK.
Yes we will be 100% consider other vendors from other region!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: AstralYT on Tue, 22 June 2021, 05:14:48
Keysets look good. But I would like to see if you guys manufacture the keycaps as good as EPBT or Geekark. Also, what would be the expected pricing?

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 05:20:18
Keysets look good. But I would like to see if you guys manufacture the keycaps as good as EPBT or Geekark. Also, what would be the expected pricing?

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

We will be posting some prototype picture shortly. We also have our prototype of PBT Lord avaialbe to view here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113023.msg3052992#msg3052992
Since the set is colored, the pricing will be higher than a normal BOW set, but for a base itself, it should be below EPBT price point
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: BurganovAziz on Tue, 22 June 2021, 05:21:28
Looks good, keep it up guys!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: P103 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 06:24:46
Buying this will be only be a few dollars less then ePbt tkl base plus numpad, trading 65 and 75 support for some novelties? I don't see the value here.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 07:03:48
Buying this will be only be a few dollars less then ePbt tkl base plus numpad, trading 65 and 75 support for some novelties? I don't see the value here.
oops i think i mentioned the pricing wrong. pre order will be around 100 usd including 3 kits. so gb pricing should be even lower.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: hali on Tue, 22 June 2021, 07:46:31
xer set and york renders yep
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: diffish on Tue, 22 June 2021, 09:57:09
I don't see the value here.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: AstralYT on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:00:58
Will keep checking this until pricing of all kits is announced.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:02:16
I want darling go brrr
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Stellaire_Tama on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:16:57
Completely in ! Look forward to buy both  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:20:21
wtf how dare you base a keycap set on an anime that somebody else previously based their keyset on using the only colors capable of identifying the anime
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 22 June 2021, 16:28:55
wtf how dare you base a keycap set on an anime that somebody else previously based their keyset on using the only colors capable of identifying the anime

We totally aware the GMK Darling's existence. But we love the anmie so much, and that is the only color scheme fits the best to the character. Thus, to distinguish from GMK Darling we did the novelties based on our understanding.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: JQ27 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 17:44:21
Any chance of expanding the International support?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 22 June 2021, 18:05:59
Extra B in the Mod kit for Alice support?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: clickpig on Tue, 22 June 2021, 19:18:33
wtf how dare you base a keycap set on an anime that somebody else previously based their keyset on using the only colors capable of identifying the anime

We totally aware the GMK Darling's existence. But we love the anmie so much, and that is the only color scheme fits the best to the character. Thus, to distinguish from GMK Darling we did the novelties based on our understanding.

I believe that was a joke ;)
Will keep tabs on this, will be going on the feetpad if no one sells me a gmk darling kit prior haha
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: kazukigocrazy on Tue, 22 June 2021, 21:29:58
Any chance we can get an all blue build of the 015 with the rest of the mods matching the color of the enter key? I think an all blue build would look really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:03:30
This was MUCH needed.

man 02 looks even better than Darling, it's a bit easier on the eyes. I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too. so yes, 100% in for 02 and will surely consider 015 because Ichigo is for cultured individuals.
kitting is far from ideal but if the full set runs for less than $100 it's ok for me. and please use Cherry fonts on mods too.
oh and +1 for an EU vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: ThomasLT on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:12:40
nice one
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Ghghop on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:35:19
Love the set, I would slightly soften either the pink or the white base colors on 02. The white is so stark/bright it makes what should be a softer color palette look a bit jarring to the eye.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Wed, 23 June 2021, 14:17:56
This was MUCH needed.

man 02 looks even better than Darling, it's a bit easier on the eyes. I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too. so yes, 100% in for 02 and will surely consider 015 because Ichigo is for cultured individuals.
kitting is far from ideal but if the full set runs for less than $100 it's ok for me. and please use Cherry fonts on mods too.
oh and +1 for an EU vendor.

Funnily enough, swapping the modifier and accent colors to make the mods white was something that I considered doing while GMK Darling was in the design/IC phase.

Ultimately, I decided against it since it wasn't a good fit, but aesthetics are subjective. Sets with lighter mods than alphas are hard to get right.

I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too.

GMK groupbuys aren't as simple as just "doing it"; production slots are limited, and there's quite a bit of work that happens on the part of the vendors and designers behind the scenes. GMK's lead times are also much longer than they were in 2019.

There is also a different GMK keyset that I've been working on, and I'd rather run something new than immediately re-run a previous set.

If you're curious, I've been working on a PBT version of the Darling colorway since January 2021 with the support of a vendor (I have posted about this in my Discord server multiple times). It's not ready yet because I'm waiting on samples, and it probably won't be for a few months.

Sorry to keep you waiting, but I prefer not to rush projects out the door.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: hzsh on Wed, 23 June 2021, 14:45:27
White mods just ain't it for 02. The board renders, however, do look pretty nice.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Ustinj on Wed, 23 June 2021, 15:24:55
i'd suggest a very subtle pink tinge added to the white so it's not such a stark contrast between the mods and alphas. that way you can have the same feel as white mods, without actually being white
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: TimeToGetBroke on Wed, 23 June 2021, 18:23:23
i'd suggest a very subtle pink tinge added to the white so it's not such a stark contrast between the mods and alphas. that way you can have the same feel as white mods, without actually being white
i agree on this, also pls EU Vendor
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 23 June 2021, 23:43:43
This was MUCH needed.

man 02 looks even better than Darling, it's a bit easier on the eyes. I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too. so yes, 100% in for 02 and will surely consider 015 because Ichigo is for cultured individuals.
kitting is far from ideal but if the full set runs for less than $100 it's ok for me. and please use Cherry fonts on mods too.
oh and +1 for an EU vendor.

Funnily enough, swapping the modifier and accent colors to make the mods white was something that I considered doing while GMK Darling was in the design/IC phase.

Ultimately, I decided against it since it wasn't a good fit, but aesthetics are subjective. Sets with lighter mods than alphas are hard to get right.

I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too.

GMK groupbuys aren't as simple as just "doing it"; production slots are limited, and there's quite a bit of work that happens on the part of the vendors and designers behind the scenes. GMK's lead times are also much longer than they were in 2019.

There is also a different GMK keyset that I've been working on, and I'd rather run something new than immediately re-run a previous set.

If you're curious, I've been working on a PBT version of the Darling colorway since January 2021 with the support of a vendor (I have posted about this in my Discord server multiple times). It's not ready yet because I'm waiting on samples, and it probably won't be for a few months.

Sorry to keep you waiting, but I prefer not to rush projects out the door.

wow the OG darling maker is here. I hope your run of the pbt darling will be as successful as your GMK Darling run. GL!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Evasive on Thu, 24 June 2021, 00:18:35
Hmm.. might have to cop while I patiently wait for Gmk Darling. Hopefully r2 will come to fruition in the future.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: yui on Thu, 24 June 2021, 01:45:30
kinda regret buying GMK Darling seeing this, depending on how things go i may get a 015 although being and uncultured swine i have no clues about either animes, just liking the colorways, and if i remember right pbt is better with chemical than abs, so should not have to fear damaging the caps when disinfecting it.
although i am in Europe, would you consider an European proxy?
thanks
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 24 June 2021, 02:21:04
Hmm.. might have to cop while I patiently wait for Gmk Darling. Hopefully r2 will come to fruition in the future.

as the runner of gmk darling written above, he is not planning to run gmk darling r2 anytime soon with the addition of copyright law. he is preparing pbt darling tho
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 24 June 2021, 02:21:36
kinda regret buying GMK Darling seeing this, depending on how things go i may get a 015 although being and uncultured swine i have no clues about either animes, just liking the colorways, and if i remember right pbt is better with chemical than abs, so should not have to fear damaging the caps when disinfecting it.
although i am in Europe, would you consider an European proxy?
thanks

defnetily, if any eu vendor come to contact we will defnitely consider
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: ThomasLT on Thu, 24 June 2021, 02:50:19
nice one
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: shima on Thu, 24 June 2021, 19:12:40
have you at least talked to xer about using the same idea for a set?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 24 June 2021, 19:34:53
have you at least talked to xer about using the same idea for a set?
Unfortunetly we did not and it is something we wish we have done. It was due to our lack of experience working with designer community. We will release a statement on this soon.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Evasive on Fri, 25 June 2021, 10:51:55
have you at least talked to xer about using the same idea for a set?

I mean xer does not own darling in the franxx franchise, so if a new designer decides to create a keycap set based on the same anime but their own iteration of it then I do not see the problem.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: DannyK570 on Fri, 25 June 2021, 12:49:15
have you at least talked to xer about using the same idea for a set?

Did Xer talk with the owner of darling in the franxx franchise before he/she make that set? LOL
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: mizuwolf on Fri, 25 June 2021, 13:07:14
I'd love to get this, but there's no mod pipe or tilde; will you consider adding those to the set? D:
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Fri, 25 June 2021, 22:15:22
I'd love to get this, but there's no mod pipe or tilde; will you consider adding those to the set? D:

yes! we will be modifiying our kitting a bit to add basic iso support
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: yui on Mon, 28 June 2021, 02:05:42
have you at least talked to xer about using the same idea for a set?
Did Xer talk with the owner of darling in the franxx franchise before he/she make that set? LOL
i kinda feel like the colorway ownership idea is a pretty big limiting factor in the kb market. designs and logos, sure, but when you keep it at 2-3 colors and group them alpha, mod and accent i feel it should not be considered as "owned" by anyone, else we will kill innovation in the space. that was my feeling on the subject
have a good day
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: doggo1dance on Mon, 28 June 2021, 04:11:34
have you at least talked to xer about using the same idea for a set?
Did Xer talk with the owner of darling in the franxx franchise before he/she make that set? LOL
i kinda feel like the colorway ownership idea is a pretty big limiting factor in the kb market. designs and logos, sure, but when you keep it at 2-3 colors and group them alpha, mod and accent i feel it should not be considered as "owned" by anyone, else we will kill innovation in the space. that was my feeling on the subject
have a good day

imagine being realistic and logical in geekhack /s
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: phinix on Mon, 28 June 2021, 06:29:42
These are nice colors, cool set.
There is set like this already, I ordered it for £25 from Aliexpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002547807220.html?albpd=en1005002547807220&acnt=494-037-6276&aff_platform=aaf&albpg=743612850714&netw=u&albcp=1622677378&pvid=4132919b-d09c-48f3-9467-118ac2fde46d&sk=UneMJZVf&scm=1007.23534.124000.0&trgt=743612850714&terminal_id=b3b2077c48d2416ebf3fa1c50ef23652&needSmbHouyi=false&albbt=Google_7_shopping&src=google&crea=en1005002547807220&aff_fcid=db626c38753e46498534d5d398faa378-1624879537012-08470-UneMJZVf&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhNCt9pu68QIV1PZRCh0rCwxwEAQYASABEgLih_D_BwE&albag=57224001810&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&albch=shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&aff_trace_key=db626c38753e46498534d5d398faa378-1624879537012-08470-UneMJZVf&rmsg=do_not_replacement&device=c&gclsrc=aw.ds) and recevied it 2 weeks ago, those colors look very nice on pbt caps.
Just pink mods instead of all white.

Go for it, nice colors set. Maybe not at that price thou, as its already there for around $40.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Mon, 28 June 2021, 11:21:44
These are nice colors, cool set.
There is set like this already, I ordered it for £25 from Aliexpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002547807220.html?albpd=en1005002547807220&acnt=494-037-6276&aff_platform=aaf&albpg=743612850714&netw=u&albcp=1622677378&pvid=4132919b-d09c-48f3-9467-118ac2fde46d&sk=UneMJZVf&scm=1007.23534.124000.0&trgt=743612850714&terminal_id=b3b2077c48d2416ebf3fa1c50ef23652&needSmbHouyi=false&albbt=Google_7_shopping&src=google&crea=en1005002547807220&aff_fcid=db626c38753e46498534d5d398faa378-1624879537012-08470-UneMJZVf&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhNCt9pu68QIV1PZRCh0rCwxwEAQYASABEgLih_D_BwE&albag=57224001810&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&albch=shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&aff_trace_key=db626c38753e46498534d5d398faa378-1624879537012-08470-UneMJZVf&rmsg=do_not_replacement&device=c&gclsrc=aw.ds) and recevied it 2 weeks ago, those colors look very nice on pbt caps.
Just pink mods instead of all white.

Go for it, nice colors set. Maybe not at that price thou, as its already there for around $40.

The one you linked from is a GMK Darling clone. Honestly, we shouldn't be promoting GMK clones and PTB 02 isn't a clone.

As for the pricing, it isn't as simple as why don't we set the price at any arbitrary price? There are multiple factors on why a particular keycap set is priced in its way, such as designer payout, quality of the keycap material, quality of the dye-sub, QC, packaging etc.

For a GMK clone/HKG keycaps that sells cheap, you can expect that they don't need a designer payout and probably using the cheapest PBT keycaps material available to them. If you compare something like EPBT to the clone you bought, you should be able to see the quality differences.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: yui on Tue, 29 June 2021, 02:06:45
for some reason reading your 1st post i though you were manufacturing those caps, i can't find what made me think that again, but reading your last post those would be ePBT?
part of me was kinda hoping more manufacturer so we could get more innovations and better GB times :)
either way i am excited to see where this goes
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 29 June 2021, 03:15:02
for some reason reading your 1st post i though you were manufacturing those caps, i can't find what made me think that again, but reading your last post those would be ePBT?
part of me was kinda hoping more manufacturer so we could get more innovations and better GB times :)
either way i am excited to see where this goes

We are both designing and manufactoring these caps.

We have a designer team which work with us full time to design keycaps. We have manufactured several sets from our designer team and they have been well-received in China. PBT 02/015 is their latest work that we want to share with everyone in the oversea community.

Meanwhile, we expanded our manufactoring capacity over the last few month and now we are able to work with other designers to produce their sets. For example, the PBT Lord by Rifen and few more on its way.

We welcome other designers to contact us for potentially running their set. We have very short lead time right now comparing to other manus and we are able to produce top tier dye-sub sets for cheaper. Hopefully, the PBT 02/015 and PBT Lord GB would help to convince designers to consider us for their future set. ;D
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 02 July 2021, 10:47:43
[...]
There is also a different GMK keyset that I've been working on, and I'd rather run something new than immediately re-run a previous set.

If you're curious, I've been working on a PBT version of the Darling colorway since January 2021 with the support of a vendor (I have posted about this in my Discord server multiple times). It's not ready yet because I'm waiting on samples, and it probably won't be for a few months.

Sorry to keep you waiting, but I prefer not to rush projects out the door.
thanks for the update.
I respect all your points, and they make valid reasons, for me as a consumer, to invest in the sets presented in this IC for now, primarily for the dramatic differences in lead times.
I'll surely consider whatever future round of darling when/if it's physically going to happen.


There is set like this already, I ordered it for £25 from Aliexpress
jesus, promoting bootleg sets on geekhack lmao. I've seen it all
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: TheWonderBubble on Fri, 02 July 2021, 11:05:02
There is set like this already, I ordered it for £25 from Aliexpress and recevied it 2 weeks ago, those colors look very nice on pbt caps.
Go for it, nice colors set. Maybe not at that price thou, as its already there for around $40.

Didn't expect to see people openly promote unethical art-theft, especially for a different set, but here we are.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/16/3d/ff163de832472475ea4aeba2acd3dbec.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: LivPrime on Fri, 02 July 2021, 17:10:56
Will there be accent spacebars? I tried to see, but it looks like there is no red space bar in the kitting to match the red escape and enter key. Perhaps a red novelty spacebar in some form would help it distinguish itself from GMK Darling.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 04 July 2021, 03:54:18
Will there be accent spacebars? I tried to see, but it looks like there is no red space bar in the kitting to match the red escape and enter key. Perhaps a red novelty spacebar in some form would help it distinguish itself from GMK Darling.

Yes, we are changing the spacebar on PBT 02 to use the accent color.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Sample color comparison!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 04 July 2021, 03:55:27
Updated with pantone color comparison. We will update with photos of the samples soon.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 04 July 2021, 11:03:51
Updated new kitting for the PBT 02 & PBT 015. Added ISO terminal support.

Also updated with sample photos from our GB in China.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos
Post by: ilumkeebs on Mon, 05 July 2021, 05:56:15
sorry love u
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos
Post by: juniper37559 on Mon, 05 July 2021, 10:07:21
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.2f58849ddtdJ2p&id=647323447567&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

Looks like the clone

Milkyway has IC on Zfrontier first. That taobao clone just copied it within one week.

In China, if you IC your whole keycaps design on Zfrontier, there's a risk your design will appear on taoboa the next day. :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Mon, 05 July 2021, 11:33:28
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.2f58849ddtdJ2p&id=647323447567&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

Looks like the clone

Yeah, that is a typical Taobao copycat. They clone all sort of keycaps and they have a very bad rep in Chinese keyboard scene.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Mon, 05 July 2021, 11:35:57
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.2f58849ddtdJ2p&id=647323447567&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

Looks like the clone

Milkyway has IC on Zfrontier first. That taobao clone just copied it within one week.

In China, if you IC your whole keycaps design on Zfrontier, there's a risk your design will appear on taoboa the next day. :eek:

Thank you for clarifying for us.

It is really unfortunate that these things happens. These clones are not helping the scene to grow at all, just simply plagiarism.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.04 Updated kitting and sample photos
Post by: Jr.Mars on Fri, 09 July 2021, 03:25:18
I like this, can't wait for this set.


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Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015 - 2021.07.10 Updated vendor and pre-order information
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sat, 10 July 2021, 10:42:02
Updated with vendor and pre-order information.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.10 Vendor and pre-order information
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:58:28
Updated PBT 015's novelties to fix a render mistake.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.10 Vendor and pre-order information
Post by: pararch on Tue, 13 July 2021, 13:40:49
I'm excited to see how this turns out! Great to see that there are new manufacturers coming onto the scene.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.14 New vendor and updated base kit
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 14 July 2021, 13:12:18
Updated with new vendor information as well as new base kits. We have added split backspace support and removed some unnecessary keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.14 New vendor and updated base kit
Post by: Wystner on Thu, 15 July 2021, 04:44:23
This was brought up on Reddit, but for the pre-order set currently running, are the alternate shifts that are labeled R3 actually R3?
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.14 New vendor and updated base kit
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 15 July 2021, 15:28:39
This was brought up on Reddit, but for the pre-order set currently running, are the alternate shifts that are labeled R3 actually R3?

Mostly likely the vendor is using an outdated kitting render with mistakes. R3 shift is not a thing, don't worry about it.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.16 Full vendor list and deskmat
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Fri, 16 July 2021, 23:48:21
Updated full vendor list and deskmat design.

The international GB should take place on early September.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.16 Full vendor list and deskmat
Post by: Kotahh on Sun, 18 July 2021, 22:25:26
Never heard of KanataKeys for the canadian vendor. They don't seem to exist via google search. Is that a new vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.16 Full vendor list and deskmat
Post by: JohnYYZ on Sun, 18 July 2021, 23:54:26
Never heard of KanataKeys for the canadian vendor. They don't seem to exist via google search. Is that a new vendor?

This will be my vendor launching in August.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.16 Full vendor list and deskmat
Post by: Kotahh on Mon, 19 July 2021, 16:08:41
That's great, can't hurt to have more canadian vendors :)

Never heard of KanataKeys for the canadian vendor. They don't seem to exist via google search. Is that a new vendor?

This will be my vendor launching in August.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.16 Full vendor list and deskmat
Post by: JohnYYZ on Tue, 20 July 2021, 10:44:49
That's great, can't hurt to have more canadian vendors :)

Never heard of KanataKeys for the canadian vendor. They don't seem to exist via google search. Is that a new vendor?

This will be my vendor launching in August.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.21 Updated deskmat design
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 21 July 2021, 11:31:37
Updated with new deskmat designs!
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.21 Updated deskmat designs
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 22 July 2021, 20:10:19
Updated base kit render with correct marking of the keycap sizes.  Also update spacing on 015 deskmat.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 25 July 2021, 03:52:56
We are excited to announce that we are collaborating with Miroticaps (https://www.instagram.com/miroticaps/) for bringing you Mirocard collectable for PBT 02 & PBT 015.  The details on this collaboration is still to be determined. We are working hard to make this available for everyone whos is joining the GB.

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02 Mirocard


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015 Mirocard

(https://i.imgur.com/Sj9EtFf.png)
02 & 015 Mirocards
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: clickpig on Sun, 25 July 2021, 10:26:20
We are excited to announce that we are collaborating with Miroticaps (https://www.instagram.com/miroticaps/) for bringing you Mirocard collectable for PBT 02 & PBT 015.  The details on this collaboration is still to be determined. We are working hard to make this available for everyone whos is joining the GB.

Show Image
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02 Mirocard


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015 Mirocard



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02 & 015 Mirocards

oh heeeeeeell yeah
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: CookieFlow on Sun, 25 July 2021, 14:49:00
We are excited to announce that we are collaborating with Miroticaps (https://www.instagram.com/miroticaps/) for bringing you Mirocard collectable for PBT 02 & PBT 015.  The details on this collaboration is still to be determined. We are working hard to make this available for everyone whos is joining the GB.

Show Image
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02 Mirocard


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015 Mirocard

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02 & 015 Mirocards


That's awesome

Hopefully they will be available for the EU GB also  :thumb:

ps: A rama/Thok collab isn't possible for some sweet metal artisans?
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Mon, 26 July 2021, 13:06:13
We are excited to announce that we are collaborating with Miroticaps (https://www.instagram.com/miroticaps/) for bringing you Mirocard collectable for PBT 02 & PBT 015.  The details on this collaboration is still to be determined. We are working hard to make this available for everyone whos is joining the GB.

Show Image
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02 Mirocard


Show Image
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015 Mirocard

Show Image
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02 & 015 Mirocards


That's awesome

Hopefully they will be available for the EU GB also  :thumb:

ps: A rama/Thok collab isn't possible for some sweet metal artisans?

Yes, it will be available for EU GB.

Our timeline were kind of short noticed for this set. Rama / Thok might not have enough time for make metal artisan for us.

Also, Rama/Thok would probably cost like 3/4 of the cost of the whole keycap sets... I don't know how we feel about that.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: CookieFlow on Mon, 26 July 2021, 16:17:05
Understandable.

I don't think they cost that much (unless you go for brass versions). For Alu version it's generally around 40$, which some other PBT sets have had.
But I agree that maybe it will be difficult with the short time frame.

I just really like my metal artisans and I thought there could have been some cool ideas with the themes of these sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 27 July 2021, 09:01:01
Understandable.

I don't think they cost that much (unless you go for brass versions). For Alu version it's generally around 40$, which some other PBT sets have had.
But I agree that maybe it will be difficult with the short time frame.

I just really like my metal artisans and I thought there could have been some cool ideas with the themes of these sets.

Never mind about my previous comment, it is probably happening  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 28 July 2021, 03:15:05
Updated the kitting for both PBT 02 & PBT 015 to fix some render mistakes.

We will have cable and metal artisan collab for these two sets!
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.31 GB dates! More sample photos
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sat, 31 July 2021, 04:34:06
Updated with GB dates and more sample photos.

We will be running our international GB from September 6th  to October 8th.

We will have video reviews for PBT 02 & PBT 015 very soon to give buyers peace of mind on new manu.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: CookieFlow on Sat, 31 July 2021, 09:05:10


Woohoo !
Yay thanks for taking feedback into consideration  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.31 GB dates! More sample photos
Post by: Ryohka on Sat, 31 July 2021, 10:47:47
015 looks pretty good to me. And the price estimate is actually quite decent, $100 for base+novelties.
Will keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | 2021.07.25 Awesome Mirocard collectable collab!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 01 August 2021, 15:10:37


Woohoo !
Yay thanks for taking feedback into consideration  :thumb:

Thanks! Hopefully we will have an update on metal artisan soon!
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | 48 hours Mirocard giveaway!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 05 August 2021, 13:17:08
Updated with what we plan to do with the Mirocards:

We will be running this giveaway as a 48 hours promotion.

This means that any one who purchased a set of PBT 02 or PBT 015 within the first 48 hours of GB will receive a corresponding Mirocard for their set. The two cards combine into one image so maybe you could consider getting both.  :D

The cards will be shipped inside the Milkyway's packaging, so you wouldn't have to worry about receiving a separate package for the Mirocards.

These are the rarities for the Mirocards:
Holo Rarity - 95%
Designer Signature Holo Rarity - 5%
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | PBT 02 review video
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sat, 07 August 2021, 23:08:16
We have our first review video for PBT 02!

PBT 02 review by Jimmy Nguyen


More review videos to come!
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | New deskmats
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Mon, 09 August 2021, 12:30:02
Have been working with she.days (https://www.instagram.com/she.days/) and here we have two new deskmats!

(https://i.imgur.com/z6QxyQ5.jpg)
Deskmat Pink-girl

(https://i.imgur.com/OwHdgcj.jpg)
Deskmat Blue-girl
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | New deskmats
Post by: CookieFlow on Mon, 09 August 2021, 13:34:28
Nice update  :thumb:

It's wasn't really my favorite art style at first, but it has grown on me for sure.
I really like the "pink girl" mat, but "blue girl" something looks a bit off to my eyes.
Not exactly sure what it is, but something about her face/back lacks a bit of "depth".

But in both cases I find the keyboards pretty disproportionate. They look huge compared to the characters?
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | New deskmats
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 10 August 2021, 13:42:09
Nice update  :thumb:

It's wasn't really my favorite art style at first, but it has grown on me for sure.
I really like the "pink girl" mat, but "blue girl" something looks a bit off to my eyes.
Not exactly sure what it is, but something about her face/back lacks a bit of "depth".

But in both cases I find the keyboards pretty disproportionate. They look huge compared to the characters?

Thanks for the support!

It is definitly an unique art style which makes the deskmat stands out!

We will take a look at keyboard sizing to see if we need to fix anything.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | New deskmats
Post by: YXXX on Sun, 15 August 2021, 09:56:00
Keen to see how a new pbt manu performs - will definitely be copping a set or two
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | US pricing announced
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sat, 21 August 2021, 18:30:53
Updated with US pricing.

For this GB, we are selling base kit + novelties + spacebar as one package.

The US pricing will be $95 for both PBT 02/PBT 015. Leadtime will be 2~3 months after GB.

Pricing for other regions will come soon.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT 02 & PBT 015
Post by: Ragnorok64 on Mon, 23 August 2021, 22:01:15
This was MUCH needed.

man 02 looks even better than Darling, it's a bit easier on the eyes. I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too. so yes, 100% in for 02 and will surely consider 015 because Ichigo is for cultured individuals.
kitting is far from ideal but if the full set runs for less than $100 it's ok for me. and please use Cherry fonts on mods too.
oh and +1 for an EU vendor.

Funnily enough, swapping the modifier and accent colors to make the mods white was something that I considered doing while GMK Darling was in the design/IC phase.

Ultimately, I decided against it since it wasn't a good fit, but aesthetics are subjective. Sets with lighter mods than alphas are hard to get right.

I'm tired of waiting for a R2 on that too.

GMK groupbuys aren't as simple as just "doing it"; production slots are limited, and there's quite a bit of work that happens on the part of the vendors and designers behind the scenes. GMK's lead times are also much longer than they were in 2019.

There is also a different GMK keyset that I've been working on, and I'd rather run something new than immediately re-run a previous set.

If you're curious, I've been working on a PBT version of the Darling colorway since January 2021 with the support of a vendor (I have posted about this in my Discord server multiple times). It's not ready yet because I'm waiting on samples, and it probably won't be for a few months.

Sorry to keep you waiting, but I prefer not to rush projects out the door.

Whelp now I'm torn. GMK Darling is a set I missed out on and figured it'd never get another round, seeing as I didn't think the show was all that popular outside of the season it aired. Honestly though, I'm probably just going to end up getting this set and PBT Darling whenever it launches. It's a good looking pink set.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | US pricing announced
Post by: Jake11258 on Tue, 24 August 2021, 04:39:46
Would love dark mods on either of these sets! Definitely count me in at this stage.


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Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | US pricing announced
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 25 August 2021, 12:47:41
Would love dark mods on either of these sets! Definitely count me in at this stage.


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Thanks for the support!
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | 015 Review | Cable Collab
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 01 September 2021, 02:12:14
We have two updates today!

Cable collab is live at Rocket Cable (https://www.rocketcables.com/products/gb-pbt-02-015-custom-cable).

A new PBT 015 review is also available:

Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | 015 Review | Cable Collab
Post by: tehchonka on Wed, 01 September 2021, 10:25:48
95$ only? That's really good considering that a numpad is included, though I'd love to see base kits not include numpad kits to see how far you guys can go in terms of value and possibly gain more traction.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | 015 Review | Cable Collab
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Wed, 01 September 2021, 23:47:28
Updated with international pricing:

(https://i.imgur.com/o43aZLs.png)

Will make a GB thread soon!
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | THOK ZeroTwo Artisan
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:54:05
Updated with renders of ZeroTwo Artisan by THOK

(https://i.imgur.com/sAuPtki.png)  (https://i.imgur.com/8oz8TWB.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | THOK ZeroTwo Artisan
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Sun, 05 September 2021, 21:05:08
GB post submitted, waiting to be approved!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | THOK ZeroTwo Artisan
Post by: Kacperoni on Sun, 05 September 2021, 21:45:09
I am definitely wanting to order both sets; cards making a full pic is also dope! Short group buy to shipping day is so relieving looking that I’m still waiting for some gmk sets that I ordered end of last year lol. Will definitely order the Demon Girl as well. Cant wait!


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Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | September 6 GB | THOK ZeroTwo Artisan
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 07 September 2021, 00:37:48
I am definitely wanting to order both sets; cards making a full pic is also dope! Short group buy to shipping day is so relieving looking that I’m still waiting for some gmk sets that I ordered end of last year lol. Will definitely order the Demon Girl as well. Cant wait!


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Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | GB is live!!!!!!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Tue, 07 September 2021, 15:39:20
GB is live!!! We can move to the GB thread.

We have 50 MOQ on each deskmats and 100 MOQ on THOK, I think these MOQs are mostly, so everything will most likely be made!!!!

GB LINK HERE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114489.0)
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | GB is live!!!!!!
Post by: nickthaskater on Thu, 04 November 2021, 00:51:28
Will Milkway ever produce high profile PBT caps like SA? I love everything about the caps you guys are producing other than the fact that they're Cherry profile, ha.
Title: Re: [IC] Milkyway PBT 02 & PBT 015 | GB is live!!!!!!
Post by: MILKYWAY KEYS on Thu, 04 November 2021, 20:37:07
Will Milkway ever produce high profile PBT caps like SA? I love everything about the caps you guys are producing other than the fact that they're Cherry profile, ha.

Sure bet ;)