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geekhack Community => Ergonomics => Topic started by: nads93uk on Sat, 20 February 2010, 12:10:56
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Hi everyone, I wanted to know if there are any Cherry MX Blues for lefties, preferably Mac, but not neccesary.
Thank You
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Thank You
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At MacWorld last year, a friend of mine put me in front of one of those lefties with Cherry browns, challenged me to name the feel. I didn't have the vocabulary I have now, but I correctly identified the touch as the same as my Kinesis Contour.
I didn't do a Ricercar Flex™, but these lefty keyboards do have a solid satisfying feel.
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What's wrong with the standard layout? I think it's actually much more convenient for lefties than for right handers. The numpad is simple enough for me to operate with the weak hand at high speed, and on the right side it doesn't get in the way of the mouse, which seems to be common problem for right handers. Navigation keys right are great too, I never have to move my left off the mouse when using them.
YMMV of course, but for my lefty needs the standard layout is just perfect.
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Numpad on left allows handwriting with right hand while number crunching.
I mouse on left at work to allow writing notepad on right.
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Although I'm not left-handed...I'd certainly like to get hold of one of them left-hand keyboards...I'd *really* like to get a 122-key terminal for lefties...though I doubt any of them exist.
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spec57
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Just for novelty value, or do you think it might be more convenient for right handers?
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I'd like it for novelty value, to be sure..and to irritate friends who use my computer from time to time.....but it's also for practical reasons too...I feel it would be more user-friendly for *me*...but then...I can write with both hands too, and swing a hammer left-handed without smashing fingers...so maybe I'm odd afterall...... haha
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spec57
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Numpad on left allows handwriting with right hand while number crunching.
I mouse on left at work to allow writing notepad on right.
I've also trained myself to use the numpad on the left, but all you can find is stand alone righty numpads which aren't designed for the left hand so it's never quite comfortable getting your pinky down to the "0" or curling your thumb or using your index finger to hit period (there's something about the slightly shorter ring finger that works perfectly using the numpad with the right hand).
I'm kind of partial to the number row these days, but I use tilde often so I'm thinking to remap period to backspace and my backspace to the right shift since I shift with the left most the time anyhoo.
Perhaps if I brought a fullsize board with arrows and a lefty numpad on the left it might catch on as a "right-handed" keyboard in the age of pointing devices:-) I just have to convince people to learn to use their left hand...everything is marketing, but I'm not thinking I'm THAT good:\
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Perhaps if I brought a fullsize board with arrows and a lefty numpad on the left it might catch on as a "right-handed" keyboard in the age of pointing devices:-) I just have to convince people to learn to use their left hand...everything is marketing, but I'm not thinking I'm THAT good:\
If Diatec can design a board like that at an acceptable price for you, you should give it a try. You might end up as a pioneer of keyboard design. ;) A quality board like that could get a lot of interest with computer media too, if properly explained. It would be relatively easy to "learn", unlike optimized key layouts like Dvorak and Colemak, so users should feel a benefit right away.
I got the impression taking the risk and distributing high end keyboards for a relatively small number of quality aware users has paid quite nicely for you so far. This one might be worth taking another chance.
The current standard design is clearly putting right handers at a disadvantage. As a lefty I feel a bit weird about advocating this though. :madgrin:
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has anyone (lefty or righty) seen or know of any Numpad which are flipped over for the left hand so your pinky doesnt have to reach for zero like so:
* / = NL/Clear
- 9 8 7
+ 6 5 4
3 2 1
Ent . 0
or even
* / = NL/Clear
- 7 8 9
+ 4 5 6
1 2 3
Ent . 0
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I just had an idea for making your own [external left-handed numpad]...it would need to have mechanical, PCB mount switches though.
1) Desolder all switches
2) Flip PCB upside down
3) Resolder all switches to (what's normally the) bottom of PCB (this may take some creativity to be possible)
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That's actually a pretty good idea. For right handers of course.
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I FOUND ONE, well its not cherry, but has a perfect layout.
(http://estrip.org/elmwood/users/paul/images/0807/NewMacKeyboard0821.jpg)
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OK, that doesn't work for ME, per say.
I want a regular numpad like this:
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=484
But with a US layout, brown cherries and full NKRO
buy.com has a left handed scorpius keypad:
http://www.buy.com/prod/ione-qtronix-scorpius-22-mechanical-switch-usb-keypad/q/listingid/18341556/loc/101/205713553.html
anyone know what switches the DS uses? what's its NKRO?
http://shops.godaddy.com/DS-International-Inc/Left-Handed-Keyboard/
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has anyone (lefty or righty) seen or know of any Numpad which are flipped over for the left hand so your pinky doesnt have to reach for zero
Sounds like yet another job for the mighty Nostromo...
The pinkie naturally rests on the key I've made '0', but you could move 0 anywhere, maybe to a thumb switch.