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Title: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:13: Welcome all! You are greeted by Santigo Custom and our brand new first project done as a part of a team. For those is not familiar with me, I’m renowned for making custom cables (vintage and paracord) and taking part in manufacturing and painting Lyra keyboard.
It’s been a while since we formed a small team with bizunow currently being a lead designer. Everybody had a plenty of ideas and concepts in the world of mechanical keyboards. And today we want to present one of those ideas. It’s uncommon and probably unique of its kind 60% keyboard. I hope you appreciate all efforts put in this project.

(https://i.imgur.com/ip3J0y6.jpg)

Google Form - https://forms.gle/qMajJpBkqBsrjbff7

WHO ARE WE?
Santigo Studio is the team of close friends who have known each other for a long period of time and who create projects in the field of mechanical keyboards. By working hard and putting all efforts from our PCB designer and all keyboard designers we produce products, which definitely won’t leave anyone indifferent

HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?
I’m the owner of two CNC machines (HAAS & Mazak) and because of this I can provide the best price for consumers and control the process of manufacturing myself specifically talking of:
• Case manufacturing
• Sandblast processing
• Quality control
• Packing process
• Anodizing Process or Coating (Cerakote)
90% of all manufacturing process is done locally in Europe, and only PCBs will be produced in China. You don’t need to worry about that because we cooperate with proven Chinese factory. In Lyra’s GB everything ended swimmingly.

I want to devote this paragraph to plate set in our board. It was challenging for us to make exactly Leaf spring plate since we wanted to achieve even flex spreading and the main aim was to have PCB and switches not contacting with the bottom of the board. We’ve spent so much time testing and trying different materials such as aluminum, POM, PC, brass, carbon, ABS and we came up with an idea that non-spring POM and spring carbon fiber are the best options to be used in the plates of our keyboards. Those materials are both flexible and hard, that keep their form and provide spring function, unlike aluminum or brass, which we’ve considered as unsuitable. On the photo you can clearly see that springs are spread equally on the carbon fiber plate. We’ve also tried swapping them, expanded and narrowed them down until we achieved the best possible result.

So the specs are:
   • Manufactured by SantiGo studio in EU Design bizunow
   • Plate mounting style – something similar to sandwich mount (because plate has special cutout where it will be put and pressed between top and bottom, top and bottom between themselves)
   • Material: Aluminum case 60xx series
   • Carbon fiber leaf-spring plate (regular / half)
• POM plate (regular / half )
   • PCB: type C daughterboard
   • Colors: Black and Silver
   • Layout: 60% with both ANSI and ISO variants available. As an extra option we have 3 different available HHKB/WKL/Regular. You can find the price below.
   • Typing angle: 6.5°
   • Interface – USB Type-C

KIT costs 220 euro and includes:
• 1x – Case (Top and Bottom)
• 1x – PCB Plain C daughterboard
• 2x Plate – One plate Carbon fiber Leaf spring or regular or Half depending on your choice and one POM plate regular.
• 2x – Two foams (from felt): one for bottom, second between PCB and plate
• 80x – Switch films from my friend the_mihalich
• 6x – Screws м2
• 8x – Board legs (4 black 4 with skull image (huge thank to T0mb3ry for boneyard picture)

Extra options that can be bought separately:
• TOP – HHKB/Regular/WKL – 45 euro
• PCB – 30 euro
• PLATE – POM or Carbon fiber Leaf spring (regular / half) – 25 euro
• Cerakote Coat - 35 eur
• Cable Vintage by SantiGo grey or black (coil 25cm and 1 metr for keyboard Type C like PCB) - 35 eur ONLY 1 cable with 1 Keyboard

Amount of keyboards is limited – 150 kits and 100 extra tops.
The slots for the GB will be allocated by - FCFS

For faster updates and push notifications regarding this project, please join the:
• Discord - https://discord.gg/bFhK7vx
• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/santigo_customsss/

Shipment and delivery time:
Worldwide shipment with Ukrainian post – 20 euro with track or Italian – price from 30 up to 55 euro.

Top and Layout

HHKB (https://i.imgur.com/yIgQ6Ob.jpg)Regular(https://i.imgur.com/4EmFW2o.jpg) WKL (https://i.imgur.com/5TMmVeS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NEIqPP0.jpg)

Prototype Images

(https://i.imgur.com/AuEWsTO.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/B4VvZO8.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/2UYKrWk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c6tFETX.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/wN9qoTN.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/3aMpIiU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5RuUSqe.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/1LDsU6G.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Ftcf2r5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3p9c7Ci.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/dQjBzBZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/pF2rNIg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MZm5ZtS.jpg)

After sandblasting
(https://i.imgur.com/rr1cJtA.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/j7jjwIR.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/EzOP4VN.jpg)

Video how work Leaf-spring fiber Carbon plate
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom - Updated 07.01.2021 Cerakote
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:40: Updated 27.12.2020

- Anodizing will only be black and gray ... But there will be an additional service Cerakote the price and a photo using the example of the Lyra Keyboard Colors sample + photo already painted Lyra (project by @alexbarb ) - https://imgur.com/a/85pIqrj

- We changed the Legs and made them square at the bottom like a switch 14x14 mm ...
- Why is that? - I really liked the idea and I have not seen anyone like them, I hope you will like them too. Then we will have in the whale Legs with the theme of GMK Boneyard and its scoop - Thanks to @T0mb3ry for providing the art and the right to use them, and the second ones in the set will be black or gray silicone .. Photo Botom new Legs and skull - https://imgur.com/a/GHSrcFI

- I want to know your opinion which is better FCFS or Raffle - https://forms.gle/jfMtGE7gyqpvUGfq7

- add on Grey and Bclack 1 cable for one 1 Keyboard size 25cm coil, side keyboard 10cm , side PC 1 metr Type C - https://imgur.com/a/KF8xtwd

PRICE FOR KIT:

KIT costs 220 euro and includes:
• 1x – Case (Top and Bottom)
• 1x – PCB Plain C daughterboard
• 2x Plate – One plate Carbon fiber Leaf spring or regular or Half depending on your choice and one POM plate regular.
• 2x – Two foams (from felt): one for bottom, second between PCB and plate
• 80x – Switch films from my friend the_mihalich
• 6x – Screws м2
• 8x – Board legs (4 black 4 with skull image (huge thank to T0mb3ry for boneyard picture)

Extra options that can be bought separately:
• TOP – HHKB/Regular/WKL – 45 euro
• PCB – 30 euro
• PLATE – POM or Carbon fiber Leaf spring (regular / half) – 25 euro
• Cerakote Coat - 35 eur
• Cable Vintage by SantiGo grey or black (coil 25cm and 1 metr for keyboard Type C like PCB) - 35 eur ONLY 1 cable with 1 Keyboard

-GB DATA - SOON
-Plate files will be available after GB
- typing Soon

Updated 07.01.2021 Cerakote
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Hello everyone, the preliminary Cerakote colors that will be available for selection in GB:

1 - BLACK CHERRY H-319
2 - AZTEC TEAL H-349
3 - PLATINUM GREY H-337
4 – Rose Gold H-327
5 – Polar Blue H-326
6 - PINK CHAMPAGNE H – 311
7 - COPPER BROWN H-149
8 - BRIGHT PURPLE H – 217
9- LIGHT SAND H-142
10 Cobalt H-112

You can check what the colors look after coat in the website https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating

Updated 12.01.2021
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ate and time of the group buy will be announced in our discord server, so stay tuned.

1. PCB - As you might remember, the initial plan was to go with Plain-C PCB by Evi. Unfortunately, she have changed her plans, and don't have a time for this project right now.
However, we found even better solution and will work with our two friends you might know from their GitHub and other resources. So let me introduce you keyten and Bit Vadol You can see the photos of their past works below.
The Monoflex PCB will have an astonishing wiring you will instantly love and we are working on it right now.

2. Website - We build a website you can look at right now, to prepare for GB moment: https://santigo.com.ua/
As long as our paperwork will be approved by payment gateway, we will know the date of GB.
If you have any questions or suggestions for a website, please contact us on discord server

3. Group buy - GB will be FCFS, kits are limited to 150 + 150 Extra tops.
IMPORTANT! Only 1 kit and 1 extra top allowed per one person. Selling spots will lead to permanent ban for this and all our future group buys.
Plate CAD files will be publicly available after GB.

4. Shipment\ - we are currently negotiating with different international companies like UPS and DHL, as well as with Ukrposhta Ukrainian post. Estimated cost is 30-35 EUR for worldwide shipping

P.S. I screwed up the audio on typing demo, the new video will be recorded this week

Example Work

(https://i.imgur.com/itQNZBG.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/sp0tEO6.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: epyllion on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:36:59: Oh man, this looks awesome! I really like the estimated price as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: G14D on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:37:23: The typing demo, can't hear anything.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: yoot on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:37:52: This keyboard looks very good for the price. GLWIC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:38:39: A nice gesture to include switch films. Leaf spring plate treeleaf approved
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:40:21: Quote from: epyllion on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:36:59
Oh man, this looks awesome! I really like the estimated price as well.

Thank you .. the price will remain 99%
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:41:56: Quote from: G14D on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:37:23
The typing demo, can't hear anything.

this is not taiping .. it will be soon) its Video how work Leaf-spring fiber Carbon plate
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:42:11: Quote from: treeleaf64 on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:38:39
A nice gesture to include switch films. Leaf spring plate treeleaf approved

ty
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: G14D on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:44:08: Well...the price...is stunning.
I'm in!

The storm is coming.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:53:18: 11
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: hkiri on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:56:03: Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: self on Mon, 21 December 2020, 17:02:40: Sounds interesting.
It is great that board will have daughter board and USB port will not flex during typing!

What are the color options?

Also, manufacturing process will take place in Ukraine? By Ukrainian Post you mean NovaPoshta or Ukrposhta?

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Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 17:07:57: ... I just have the opportunity to send via Ukrainian mail, which is much cheaper than Italian mail ... I can also use new mail no problems )
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: ddnomad on Mon, 21 December 2020, 17:12:51: This looks decent, though I'd definitely prefer getting the board (top + bottom), 1 plate and PCB for a lower price. Don't see a point in having another plate and all that other "extra" stuff. Would rather pay less than have things I do not really need / trust.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 17:52:56: Quote from: ddnomad on Mon, 21 December 2020, 17:12:51
This looks decent, though I'd definitely prefer getting the board (top + bottom), 1 plate and PCB for a lower price. Don't see a point in having another plate and all that other "extra" stuff. Would rather pay less than have things I do not really need / trust.

Hello.
As you can see, this kit includes two plates: a carbon leaf spring based plate and a POM plate.
POM plate doesn't include any springs, because it's soft and sounds and dampens completely different from the carbon one.
That was the idea in the first place - provide decent flexibility without increasing the price of the product. So, the community could give us more feedback - we want to improve our designs even more.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 21 December 2020, 18:20:38: I like this!
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 18:31:11: Ty man :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 21 December 2020, 18:48:24: would like to see seamless, but it' a nice looking board
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:03:51: Yo fam what lens did you use to take those photos?

Looks like either a Zeiss or Helios 44-2 with the swirly bokeh.

Also, love the simplistic design. You got my interest :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:24:53: Oo yes) its d700+nikkor 1.4 non ai (Vintage) like 1964 years +-... thank you :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:27:29: Quote from: pixelpusher on Mon, 21 December 2020, 18:48:24
would like to see seamless, but it' a nice looking board

thank you for your feedback ... but unfortunately in this th plate seamless is impossible (
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Newsbusel on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:48:20: Really Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: homerowco on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:55:32: will the price change with rising the aluminium commodity price?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: kidgoth on Mon, 21 December 2020, 20:20:29: pricing is amazing man, GLWIC. def watching out for this
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 22 December 2020, 04:57:54: Quote from: kidgoth on Mon, 21 December 2020, 20:20:29
pricing is amazing man, GLWIC. def watching out for this

hi .. the price will not change :)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 22 December 2020, 06:53:53: Quote from: kidgoth on Mon, 21 December 2020, 20:20:29
pricing is amazing man, GLWIC. def watching out for this

Thank you :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 December 2020, 07:13:08: Could you make some pictures as to how the plate rests in the bottom of the case?
It looks like it's a complete sandwitch mount as you mentioned but where the plate is leaf spring. I can see a picture of it resting in the top of the case, but not where it's sitting in the bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 22 December 2020, 07:17:50: Quote from: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 December 2020, 07:13:08
Could you make some pictures as to how the plate rests in the bottom of the case?
It looks like it's a complete sandwitch mount as you mentioned but where the plate is leaf spring. I can see a picture of it resting in the top of the case, but not where it's sitting in the bottom.

I will soon shoot a video of how it all works + taiping test with POM and fiber Carbon plate :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 22 December 2020, 08:03:54: Nice looking keyboard, with an appealing price. What are the cerakote options, is there a website or something where we can pick a color we like?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: zekth on Tue, 22 December 2020, 10:40:47: Count me in :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Ensaum on Tue, 22 December 2020, 10:57:27: Would you be able to provide USD pricing?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: fabijolo on Tue, 22 December 2020, 11:23:54: Wow, this looks really interesting to me, especially for that low of a price point, gj :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: sJ1N on Tue, 22 December 2020, 12:02:27: interested
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 December 2020, 14:49:44: Quote from: Ensaum on Tue, 22 December 2020, 10:57:27
Would you be able to provide USD pricing?

http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=exchange+rate
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: chriszhu on Tue, 22 December 2020, 15:11:04: Looks nice, filled out the IC.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Lenux on Tue, 22 December 2020, 15:45:57: I love the design, i was looking for a 60% and this pop out. I'm interested ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: catamscott on Tue, 22 December 2020, 19:49:35: slick design at a great price from a ~~reputable gb runner~~ is a winning combination in my book :thumb: also curious, do you know what the front height of the keyboard is?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: yoniwolf1202 on Tue, 22 December 2020, 21:41:44: Looks great, can't wait to see where this goes.

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Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Ensaum on Wed, 23 December 2020, 00:50:46: Quote from: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 December 2020, 14:49:44
Quote from: Ensaum on Tue, 22 December 2020, 10:57:27
Would you be able to provide USD pricing?

http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=exchange+rate

I guess I'm more curious on what pricing would be if there's regional vendors because vendors don't always go one to one with exchange rates. Of course if this runs straight through SantiGo then it should be about $270, which is still excellent :)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: VipermanGT2 on Wed, 23 December 2020, 06:27:32: Quote from: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:13

Shipment and delivery time:
Worldwide shipment with Ukrainian post – 20 euro with track or Italian – price from 30 up to 55 euro.
IMPORTANT: We will declare lower price so you won’t pay extra taxes. In case of parcel got lost we take all responsibility. (The only exception is when customer wrote wrong address)
We are planning to run a GB in current month for a month. Manufacturing takes from 3 up to 4 months.

FYI --- THIS IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL!!! --- FYI
Declaring items at a lower value to avoid tax is extremely illegal!
Additionally, does this include VAT or not? In the EU, VAT details need to be stated. People have gotten into tons of trouble for not doing so.

Some more back info would've also been useful. Like how you came to own 2 insanely expensive CNC machines, etc.

These are massive red flags that people should consider when looking at this interest check.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: gilbert on Wed, 23 December 2020, 07:18:43: Looks really cool and the price seems to be good,
Iso support aswell :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 23 December 2020, 07:20:48: Quote from: VipermanGT2 on Wed, 23 December 2020, 06:27:32
Quote from: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:13

Shipment and delivery time:
Worldwide shipment with Ukrainian post – 20 euro with track or Italian – price from 30 up to 55 euro.
IMPORTANT: We will declare lower price so you won’t pay extra taxes. In case of parcel got lost we take all responsibility. (The only exception is when customer wrote wrong address)
We are planning to run a GB in current month for a month. Manufacturing takes from 3 up to 4 months.

FYI --- THIS IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL!!! --- FYI
Declaring items at a lower value to avoid tax is extremely illegal!
Additionally, does this include VAT or not? In the EU, VAT details need to be stated. People have gotten into tons of trouble for not doing so.

Some more back info would've also been useful. Like how you came to own 2 insanely expensive CNC machines, etc.

These are massive red flags that people should consider when looking at this interest check.

Well, Ukraine is not EU though :P
*ok, let me edit this. With not EU I mean not European Union*
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 23 December 2020, 10:15:38: Quote from: VipermanGT2 on Wed, 23 December 2020, 06:27:32
FYI --- THIS IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL!!! --- FYI
Care to elaborate? Kbdfans did it up until covid.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: gasp on Wed, 23 December 2020, 11:40:32: Quote from: noorejji on Wed, 23 December 2020, 10:15:38
Quote from: VipermanGT2 on Wed, 23 December 2020, 06:27:32
FYI --- THIS IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL!!! --- FYI
Care to elaborate? Kbdfans did it up until covid.

In the us it is technically a federal crime, and you are committing about three felonies in the process. If you get caught the buyer is responsible for paying any fines attached. Elsewhere has similar punishments and laws as well. It is a risk.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Wed, 23 December 2020, 12:36:49: Quote from: VipermanGT2 on Wed, 23 December 2020, 06:27:32
Quote from: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:13

Shipment and delivery time:
Worldwide shipment with Ukrainian post – 20 euro with track or Italian – price from 30 up to 55 euro.
IMPORTANT: We will declare lower price so you won’t pay extra taxes. In case of parcel got lost we take all responsibility. (The only exception is when customer wrote wrong address)
We are planning to run a GB in current month for a month. Manufacturing takes from 3 up to 4 months.

FYI --- THIS IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL!!! --- FYI
Declaring items at a lower value to avoid tax is extremely illegal!
Additionally, does this include VAT or not? In the EU, VAT details need to be stated. People have gotten into tons of trouble for not doing so.

Some more back info would've also been useful. Like how you came to own 2 insanely expensive CNC machines, etc.

These are massive red flags that people should consider when looking at this interest check.

It’s very weird and unintelligible question, but I’ll still try to come up with the answer. I am registered as entrepreneur in Ukraine and I pay taxes there. Besides that, I’ve also discussed that question with my accountant. I live in Italy with my family, 2 children and my lovely wife.
(Why do I live in Italy, while manufacturing is located in Ukraine? I’m sorry, but I can’t provide an answer for this question, because of personal and family circumstances)
I’ve already written that it’s possible for me to set the lower price, but, also, if we have some customs issues, then I TAKE ALL RESPONSIBILITY, when we talk about low price, but not the fact that customer don’t need to pay 10-euro fee from package, that costs 50 euro. I’ve already had 3 successful GBs which includes more than 500 sold cables I’ve never faced with any custom issues.
In fact, you don’t buy whole keyboard, but only its parts. (there are a lot of nuances that need to be considered) Actually, many people decrease parcels price (it’s inappropriate for me to point fingers)
But if customer wants, I’ll declare the actual price and provide all documents required for his country customs

About CNC

Why do you think that they are INSANELY expensive? Are you provided with information what are exact models of CNC machines? Whether they brand new or I bought them used? It’s the first time I have that kind of questions during IC :)
Where did you get the money to run GB? Do you have a car? If yes, then what is model? How much does it cost?
Well, I am 30+ years old, I have a family and I work a lot. I bought those CNC machines more than two years ago, I just couldn’t find Russian-speaking keyboard designer. Or do you really think that I bought those, as you said, “INSANELY expensive” CNC machines just to manufacture 150 keyboard units? And I can say one more thing if you are so interested, I have not paid them in full yet) ^-^

“etc” – what do you mean? What information do you need for IC? Passport scan? Birth certificate? How much money do I pay for food per month?

Mate, I am ready to answer any question according to IC topic. If it’s necessary for you, I can provide photo and video of CNC machines, even with timestamp. But please, be more restrained with “how you came to own 2 cnc machines” and similar. It’s my private matter, how I got the money.

Also, I want to answer to the following question. “Why so cheap?” A lot of people wrote me in PM that I’ll provide low-quality product for such cheap price.

NO! Price doesn’t define quality. Price is defined by, dare I say it, economic of country, where it’ll be manufactured. For example, let’s compare Italy and Ukraine.
Italy:
Salary: 1000+ euro
Utilities: 80+ euro
Rental premises: 1000+ euro
Plus, there are a lot of extra costs such as garbage removal etc.
Ukraine:
Salary: min 100, average 300 euro
Utilities: ~10 euro
Rental premises: 150+ euro

To sum up, I want to say, that if I had manufacturing on Italy, then I would increase price significantly because of high living expenses.
And if I have manufacturing in country with low salaries such as Ukraine, with reduces utilities, then I can provide competitive price.
But if pay 320-350 euro for the SAME keyboard but manufactured in Italy, quality stays the same.
All word brand tries to move to or start up a factory in countries with low salaries – such as Ukraine.

I guess we are done with discussing customs and quality issues, but I am ready to answer if you pm me.

Huge thank to everyone who has left good review. Have a good holiday!
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Wed, 23 December 2020, 12:39:23: Quote from: yoniwolf1202 on Tue, 22 December 2020, 21:41:44
Looks great, can't wait to see where this goes.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

Thank you very good to hear) :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Wed, 23 December 2020, 13:33:29: Quote from: catamscott on Tue, 22 December 2020, 19:49:35
slick design at a great price from a reputable gb runner is a winning combination in my book :thumb: also curious, do you know what the front height of the keyboard is?
nice to hear thanks .... i will measure it for you
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: 4po11o on Thu, 24 December 2020, 02:31:47: very interesting...

And I don't mean the keyboard...

Don't you think that the fact you, guys, are starting a new project BEFORE shipping the existing one, is a little disappointing, to put it mildly?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: 4po11o on Thu, 24 December 2020, 03:25:11: Quote from: SantiGo on Wed, 23 December 2020, 12:36:49
To sum up, I want to say, that if I had manufacturing on Italy, then I would increase price significantly because of high living expenses.
And if I have manufacturing in country with low salaries such as Ukraine, with reduces utilities, then I can provide competitive price.
But if pay 320-350 euro for the SAME keyboard but manufactured in Italy, quality stays the same.
All word brand tries to move to or start up a factory in countries with low salaries – such as Ukraine.

This is very bad take! I'm not a social justice warrior, but this is bad practice showing us exactly what is wrong with capitalism these days!

You see, people with low salaries are more inclined to do a bad job for a variety of social and economic reasons. Therefore, the quality will not be comparable with the highly paid professionals who are sure that the job that they do is going to feed their families, pay for their homes and medical bills.

Sorry to go to the extreme examples, but do you think that the slavery and the child labour are justified because the end-product becomes cheaper for us? Because "the world companies" use some practices, does not mean they automatically become good, just and fair.

Oh... And also...

Quote
Why do I live in Italy, while manufacturing is located in Ukraine?

Well... I think I know the answer to that question... Italy is much richer country than Ukraine, and the job opportunities are wider, and the salaries are higher, and the social services are better, and the government is less corrupt... Amirite? Am I getting the gist here?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Bl4ck on Thu, 24 December 2020, 07:08:48: Quote from: 4po11o on Thu, 24 December 2020, 03:25:11
Quote from: SantiGo on Wed, 23 December 2020, 12:36:49
To sum up, I want to say, that if I had manufacturing on Italy, then I would increase price significantly because of high living expenses.
And if I have manufacturing in country with low salaries such as Ukraine, with reduces utilities, then I can provide competitive price.
But if pay 320-350 euro for the SAME keyboard but manufactured in Italy, quality stays the same.
All word brand tries to move to or start up a factory in countries with low salaries – such as Ukraine.

This is very bad take! I'm not a social justice warrior, but this is bad practice showing us exactly what is wrong with capitalism these days!

You see, people with low salaries are more inclined to do a bad job for a variety of social and economic reasons. Therefore, the quality will not be comparable with the highly paid professionals who are sure that the job that they do is going to feed their families, pay for their homes and medical bills.

Sorry to go to the extreme examples, but do you think that the slavery and the child labour are justified because the end-product becomes cheaper for us? Because "the world companies" use some practices, does not mean they automatically become good, just and fair.

Oh... And also...

Quote
Why do I live in Italy, while manufacturing is located in Ukraine?

Well... I think I know the answer to that question... Italy is much richer country than Ukraine, and the job opportunities are wider, and the salaries are higher, and the social services are better, and the government is less corrupt... Amirite? Am I getting the gist here?

I think he is talking about cost of living in ukraine and italy is much different, that has nothing to do with people in ukraine being underpaid, overall living in ukraine is cheaper then living in italy, thats 1 of the main reasons salary is also lower.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 24 December 2020, 08:12:22: Quote from: 4po11o on Thu, 24 December 2020, 03:25:11
]
Well... I think I know the answer to that question... Italy is much richer country than Ukraine, and the job opportunities are wider, and the salaries are higher, and the social services are better, and the government is less corrupt... Amirite? Am I getting the gist here?
Very presumptuous of you. It’s pretty clear from your post that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: 4po11o on Thu, 24 December 2020, 09:18:51: Quote from: noorejji on Thu, 24 December 2020, 08:12:22
Quote from: 4po11o on Thu, 24 December 2020, 03:25:11
]
Well... I think I know the answer to that question... Italy is much richer country than Ukraine, and the job opportunities are wider, and the salaries are higher, and the social services are better, and the government is less corrupt... Amirite? Am I getting the gist here?
Very presumptuous of you. It’s pretty clear from your post that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I know... Sorry for that... My main point was that Lyra, the previous project by the SantiGo team/studio/whatever, have not shipped yet despite having been finished for a long time!

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104916.msg2996251#msg2996251

And SantiGo is responsible for logistics for the Lyra project. Therefore, it does not seem like a fair game to start the new project before finishing the one that people have already paid for.

Sorry for being rude, it's been a f....ed up day for me...
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 24 December 2020, 13:15:49: While I agree that stating beforehand to undervalue is a bit sus. Imo it’s fairly dumb that there are people now here “raging” about low paid workers etc and how that’s not right. You’re probably typing on your Apple or Samsung device that’s made in Asia under the same conditions. Somewhat double standards that it’s not accepted from a country within EU tradezone, but apparently nobody says a thing when the same thing happens in Asia.

I can still remember when people got mad because Kbd fans stopped undervaluing their packages.

Double standards imo.

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Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Thu, 24 December 2020, 13:23:17: Yes, probably I will remove this item about customs and I will indicate the full cost
in the invoice ... it doesn't change anything for me, I wanted to make a min payment at the 1st Round of Our design ...
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: varvaravara on Thu, 24 December 2020, 13:33:09: Damn,looks noice.Hope to catch one.gl with ic.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Sup on Thu, 24 December 2020, 13:49:14: It looks good :). But can the top and bottom bezel be 8mm and the sides 5mm gives it nice look that isn't bulky or is that not possible because of this mounting technique?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Thu, 24 December 2020, 14:06:34: Quote from: varvaravara on Thu, 24 December 2020, 13:33:09
Damn,looks noice.Hope to catch one.gl with ic.

Hi , the size of the top is due to the design features, it's all about our leaft-spring plate. We have already achieved the narrowest possible size of the bezels on the top. Thank you
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 24 December 2020, 14:33:16: Quote from: SantiGo on Thu, 24 December 2020, 13:23:17
Yes, probably I will remove this item about customs and I will indicate the full cost
in the invoice ... it doesn't change anything for me, I wanted to make a min payment at the 1st Round of Our design ...
As a sending party I would -always- mark at full value due to insurance reasons in case a shipment gets lost.

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Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Bl4ck on Thu, 24 December 2020, 16:17:08: Quote from: noorejji on Thu, 24 December 2020, 15:49:41
Quote from: Truthslayer on Thu, 24 December 2020, 12:13:05
This whole IC reeks.
You making a throwaway account to throw shade reeks of a personal agenda.

I’m not sure who or what you guys think you’re defending. I try not to be defensive myself, but these arguments are unconvincing.
-Under declaring the product is his own risk to make
-Ukraine is in Europe, it’s not a third world country despite the turmoils
-His living situation is none of your business
-Bringing work to his country isn’t exploitation
-Money saved is reflected on the price
-You don’t strike me as an expert on logistics and CNC machines

I agree that it’s a mistake to be upfront about under valuing. Defaming and crapping on his IC for it is still unwarranted.

Agree.
And at the very least, use your main account to do so ahah.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: mindgame on Thu, 24 December 2020, 21:04:57: Quote from: Truthslayer on Thu, 24 December 2020, 12:13:05
This whole IC reeks.
hey what's wrong with you? did your roof break? have you been in a hobby just recently? maybe you do not know that this is just an IC on GB. You don't even discuss the product, but you just burn, from what? Not interesting - go by!
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: bananathock on Sat, 26 December 2020, 21:55:40: Hello Santigo! It is looking very good! Don't mind the haters, they will always be there. Almost every custom keyboard are made in China and people don't complain as long as they receive the product. Point being, I'm glad you shared where it is going to be made. Hoping to see the GB! Will join when able!
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Sun, 27 December 2020, 18:16:12: Quote from: bananathock on Sat, 26 December 2020, 21:55:40
Hello Santigo! It is looking very good! Don't mind the haters, they will always be there. Almost every custom keyboard are made in China and people don't complain as long as they receive the product. Point being, I'm glad you shared where it is going to be made. Hoping to see the GB! Will join when able!

Thank you .. appreciate it :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: Sicowa on Sun, 27 December 2020, 18:33:48: this keep looks so clean and very high end for price! definitely following
GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Sun, 27 December 2020, 19:26:46: Quote from: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:40
Updated 28.12.2020

- Anodizing will only be black and gray ... But there will be an additional service Ceracot, the price and a photo using the example of the Lyra Keyboard Colors sample + photo already painted Lyra (project by @alexbarb ) - https://imgur.com/a/85pIqrj

- We changed the Legs and made them square at the bottom like a switch 14x14 mm ...
- Why is that? - I really liked the idea and I have not seen anyone like them, I hope you will like them too. Then we will have in the whale Legs with the theme of GMK Boneyard and its scoop - Thanks to @T0mb3ry for providing the art and the right to use them, and the second ones in the set will be black or gray silicone .. Photo Botom new Legs and skull - https://imgur.com/a/GHSrcFI

- I want to know your opinion which is better FCFS or Raffle - https://forms.gle/jfMtGE7gyqpvUGfq7

- add on Grey and Bclack 1 cable foe 1 Keyboard size 25cm coil, side keyboard 10cm , side PC 1 metr Type C - https://imgur.com/a/KF8xtwd

PRICE FOR KIT:

KIT costs 220 euro and includes:
• 1x – Case (Top and Bottom)
• 1x – PCB Plain C daughterboard
• 2x Plate – One plate Carbon fiber Leaf spring or regular or Half depending on your choice and one POM plate regular.
• 2x – Two foams (from felt): one for bottom, second between PCB and plate
• 80x – Switch films from my friend the_mihalich
• 6x – Screws м2
• 8x – Board legs (4 black 4 with skull image (huge thank to T0mb3ry for boneyard picture)

Extra options that can be bought separately:
• TOP – HHKB/Regular/WKL – 45 euro
• PCB – 30 euro
• PLATE – POM or Carbon fiber Leaf spring (regular / half) – 25 euro
• Cerakote Coat - 35 eur
• Cable Vintage by SantiGo grey or black (coil 25cm and 1 metr for keyboard Type C like PCB) - 35 eur ONLY 1 cable with 1 Keyboard

-GB DATA - SOON
-Plate files will be available after GB
- typing Soon

UPDATE 27.12.2020
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio
Post by: SantiGo on Sun, 27 December 2020, 19:31:18: Quote from: Sicowa on Sun, 27 December 2020, 18:33:48
this keep looks so clean and very high end for price! definitely following
GLWIC

Ty :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: made in China on Mon, 28 December 2020, 00:16:22: the price is excellent
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 28 December 2020, 09:55:49: Looks really interesting. Are the cerakote options limited to the colours shown in the link or is it possible to pick others? I really don't need another keyboard but for the price and with the right colour I don't think I could say no either.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 28 December 2020, 10:08:04: Quote from: nathanchere on Mon, 28 December 2020, 09:55:49
Looks really interesting. Are the cerakote options limited to the colours shown in the link or is it possible to pick others? I really don't need another keyboard but for the price and with the right colour I don't think I could say no either.

hi i will try to give max colors ... but up to 150 pieces 10 colors are so many
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: noorejji on Mon, 28 December 2020, 10:17:35: Quote from: SantiGo on Mon, 28 December 2020, 10:08:04
Quote from: nathanchere on Mon, 28 December 2020, 09:55:49
Looks really interesting. Are the cerakote options limited to the colours shown in the link or is it possible to pick others? I really don't need another keyboard but for the price and with the right colour I don't think I could say no either.

hi i will try to give max colors ... but up to 150 pieces 10 colors are so many
A few of those colors are fairly similar, and already common anodizing options (grey and such). A dark green, or greyish green, and I wouldn’t be able to resist.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 28 December 2020, 12:45:05: I want toxic green cerakote!

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Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 28 December 2020, 13:52:32: Quote from: Slayer77 on Mon, 28 December 2020, 12:45:05
I want toxic green cerakote!

Sent from my GM1911 using Tapatalk

Zombie green)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 29 December 2020, 14:05:14: I'm interested to see how this pans out. I really like the USB port placement.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 29 December 2020, 17:36:56: There is already a prototype and it has been tested for 3 months, all is well you can see in firs page .. or are you talking about serial production *?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 29 December 2020, 17:39:37: Quote from: SantiGo on Tue, 29 December 2020, 17:36:56
There is already a prototype and it has been tested for 3 months, all is well you can see in firs page .. or are you talking about serial production *?

I mean specifically the group buy process: from open orders to fulfilment.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 29 December 2020, 17:51:32: I understood you ok ... you can watch this project and already painting the board + video plates and PCB in which I helped paint and make plates ... they will be sent after the new year -https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104916.0 ... thanks for the feedback :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: Taxi on Wed, 30 December 2020, 11:41:57: Board looks very good, interested for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Thu, 31 December 2020, 02:17:54: It seems to have copied the design of LZ-EX without the weight of Bottom Housing.

(https://i.imgur.com/vVwbWm9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0n79RCC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aIscvN3.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 31 December 2020, 05:32:25: Quote from: Slayer77 on Mon, 28 December 2020, 12:45:05
I want toxic green cerakote!

Sent from my GM1911 using Tapatalk

This
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Thu, 31 December 2020, 07:23:01: Quote from: Morgan3Wheeler on Thu, 31 December 2020, 02:17:54
It seems to have copied the design of LZ-EX without the weight of Bottom Housing.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vVwbWm9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0n79RCC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aIscvN3.jpg)

ery similar but not copied as you said) - I'm sure bizunow doesn't know what it is LZ Keyboard

right now there are many similar types - AEBOARDS CONSTELLATION 65%, as far as I know, he was inspired by these keyboards like - Thermal, HONEYBOARD60, AEBOARDS CONSTELLATION 65%, KMAC.
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Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Thu, 31 December 2020, 07:25:12: ty :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Thu, 31 December 2020, 10:20:58: Quote from: SantiGo on Thu, 31 December 2020, 07:23:01
Quote from: Morgan3Wheeler on Thu, 31 December 2020, 02:17:54
It seems to have copied the design of LZ-EX without the weight of Bottom Housing.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vVwbWm9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0n79RCC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aIscvN3.jpg)

ery similar but not copied as you said) - I'm sure bizunow doesn't know what it is LZ Keyboard

right now there are many similar types - AEBOARDS CONSTELLATION 65%, as far as I know, he was inspired by these keyboards like - Thermal, HONEYBOARD60, AEBOARDS CONSTELLATION 65%, KMAC.
[/quote]

I don't think it's inspired, it's just the same
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: Bl4ck on Thu, 31 December 2020, 11:40:04: True, they are both rectangles. Jesus. thats the same as saying every pink set is olivia clone
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Studio UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Thu, 31 December 2020, 12:32:22: Quote from: Morgan3Wheeler on Thu, 31 December 2020, 10:20:58
Quote from: SantiGo on Thu, 31 December 2020, 07:23:01
Quote from: Morgan3Wheeler on Thu, 31 December 2020, 02:17:54
It seems to have copied the design of LZ-EX without the weight of Bottom Housing.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vVwbWm9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0n79RCC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aIscvN3.jpg)

ery similar but not copied as you said) - I'm sure bizunow doesn't know what it is LZ Keyboard

right now there are many similar types - AEBOARDS CONSTELLATION 65%, as far as I know, he was inspired by these keyboards like - Thermal, HONEYBOARD60, AEBOARDS CONSTELLATION 65%, KMAC.

I don't think it's inspired, it's just the same
[/quote]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B109-vtl5Um/ - you scored about singa and a couple of projects) I don't understand the emphasis on monoflex keyboard,.. even that thermal has Another plate and you can see it ... frames and everything else was done differently, even the botom made a different tilt and very small.... ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: zekth on Sun, 03 January 2021, 08:09:43: Regarding the cerakote colors, is there any limitation or we will be able to choose any?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 05 January 2021, 06:56:17: Quote from: zekth on Sun, 03 January 2021, 08:09:43
Regarding the cerakote colors, is there any limitation or we will be able to choose any?

Hi ... Cerakote will be fixed colors as they have H-series over 148 colors (
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Thu, 07 January 2021, 08:59:12: Hello everyone, the preliminary Cerakote colors that will be available for selection in GB:

1 - BLACK CHERRY H-319
2 - AZTEC TEAL H-349
3 - PLATINUM GREY H-337
4 – Rose Gold H-327
5 – Polar Blue H-326
6 - PINK CHAMPAGNE H – 311
7 - COPPER BROWN H-149
8 - BRIGHT PURPLE H – 217
9- LIGHT SAND H-142
10 Cobalt H-112

You can check what the colors look after coat in the website https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 07.01.2021 Cerakote
Post by: victorpre on Thu, 07 January 2021, 18:47:09: I enjoy my cable from SantiGo so I bet I'll enjoy the board as well. Nice work!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: paperassgasket on Thu, 07 January 2021, 20:08:03: Quote from: SantiGo on Thu, 07 January 2021, 08:59:12
Hello everyone, the preliminary Cerakote colors that will be available for selection in GB:

1 - BLACK CHERRY H-319
2 - AZTEC TEAL H-349
3 - PLATINUM GREY H-337
4 – Rose Gold H-327
5 – Polar Blue H-326
6 - PINK CHAMPAGNE H – 311
7 - COPPER BROWN H-149
8 - BRIGHT PURPLE H – 217
9- LIGHT SAND H-142
10 Cobalt H-112

You can check what the colors look after coat in the website https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating
Wait are you anticipating that 10 colors will be available or that these are the first round of pics and we will pare it down from here?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 07.01.2021 Cerakote
Post by: SantiGo on Fri, 08 January 2021, 08:56:41: Quote from: victorpre on Thu, 07 January 2021, 18:47:09
I enjoy my cable from SantiGo so I bet I'll enjoy the board as well. Nice work!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Thank you :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 27.12.2020
Post by: SantiGo on Fri, 08 January 2021, 08:58:14: Quote from: paperassgasket on Thu, 07 January 2021, 20:08:03
Quote from: SantiGo on Thu, 07 January 2021, 08:59:12
Hello everyone, the preliminary Cerakote colors that will be available for selection in GB:

1 - BLACK CHERRY H-319
2 - AZTEC TEAL H-349
3 - PLATINUM GREY H-337
4 – Rose Gold H-327
5 – Polar Blue H-326
6 - PINK CHAMPAGNE H – 311
7 - COPPER BROWN H-149
8 - BRIGHT PURPLE H – 217
9- LIGHT SAND H-142
10 Cobalt H-112

You can check what the colors look after coat in the website https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating
Wait are you anticipating that 10 colors will be available or that these are the first round of pics and we will pare it down from here?

hi These 10 colors will be available as an extra option +35 euros ... the KIT 220 eur includes 2 anodized colors
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom - Updated 07.01.2021 Cerakote
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 11 January 2021, 17:24:44: Quote from: SantiGo on Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:33:40
Updated 27.12.2020

- Anodizing will only be black and gray ... But there will be an additional service Cerakote the price and a photo using the example of the Lyra Keyboard Colors sample + photo already painted Lyra (project by @alexbarb ) - https://imgur.com/a/85pIqrj

- We changed the Legs and made them square at the bottom like a switch 14x14 mm ...
- Why is that? - I really liked the idea and I have not seen anyone like them, I hope you will like them too. Then we will have in the whale Legs with the theme of GMK Boneyard and its scoop - Thanks to @T0mb3ry for providing the art and the right to use them, and the second ones in the set will be black or gray silicone .. Photo Botom new Legs and skull - https://imgur.com/a/GHSrcFI

- I want to know your opinion which is better FCFS or Raffle - https://forms.gle/jfMtGE7gyqpvUGfq7

- add on Grey and Bclack 1 cable for one 1 Keyboard size 25cm coil, side keyboard 10cm , side PC 1 metr Type C - https://imgur.com/a/KF8xtwd

PRICE FOR KIT:

KIT costs 220 euro and includes:
• 1x – Case (Top and Bottom)
• 1x – PCB Plain C daughterboard
• 2x Plate – One plate Carbon fiber Leaf spring or regular or Half depending on your choice and one POM plate regular.
• 2x – Two foams (from felt): one for bottom, second between PCB and plate
• 80x – Switch films from my friend the_mihalich
• 6x – Screws м2
• 8x – Board legs (4 black 4 with skull image (huge thank to T0mb3ry for boneyard picture)

Extra options that can be bought separately:
• TOP – HHKB/Regular/WKL – 45 euro
• PCB – 30 euro
• PLATE – POM or Carbon fiber Leaf spring (regular / half) – 25 euro
• Cerakote Coat - 35 eur
• Cable Vintage by SantiGo grey or black (coil 25cm and 1 metr for keyboard Type C like PCB) - 35 eur ONLY 1 cable with 1 Keyboard

-GB DATA - SOON
-Plate files will be available after GB
- typing Soon

Updated 07.01.2021 Cerakote
[/b]

Hello everyone, the preliminary Cerakote colors that will be available for selection in GB:

1 - BLACK CHERRY H-319
2 - AZTEC TEAL H-349
3 - PLATINUM GREY H-337
4 – Rose Gold H-327
5 – Polar Blue H-326
6 - PINK CHAMPAGNE H – 311
7 - COPPER BROWN H-149
8 - BRIGHT PURPLE H – 217
9- LIGHT SAND H-142
10 Cobalt H-112

You can check what the colors look after coat in the website https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating

Updated 12.01.2021
[/b]

ate and time of the group buy will be announced in our discord server, so stay tuned.

1. PCB - As you might remember, the initial plan was to go with Plain-C PCB by Evi. Unfortunately, she have changed her plans, and don't have a time for this project right now.
However, we found even better solution and will work with our two friends you might know from their GitHub and other resources. So let me introduce you keyten and Bit Vadol You can see the photos of their past works below.
The Monoflex PCB will have an astonishing wiring you will instantly love and we are working on it right now.

2. Website - We build a website you can look at right now, to prepare for GB moment: https://santigo.com.ua/
As long as our paperwork will be approved by payment gateway, we will know the date of GB.
If you have any questions or suggestions for a website, please contact us on discord server

3. Group buy - GB will be FCFS, kits are limited to 150 + 150 Extra tops.
IMPORTANT! Only 1 kit and 1 extra top allowed per one person. Selling spots will lead to permanent ban for this and all our future group buys.
Plate CAD files will be publicly available after GB.

4. Shipment\ - we are currently negotiating with different international companies like UPS and DHL, as well as with Ukrposhta Ukrainian post. Estimated cost is 30-35 EUR for worldwide shipping

P.S. I screwed up the audio on typing demo, the new video will be recorded this week

Example Work

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Update- 12.01.2021
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: ILWrites on Fri, 30 April 2021, 13:41:42: Hello.

I've been working on Monoflex keyboard as one of the PCB designers and the PCB production manager.

Unfortunately, I have to quit my position due to the disagreement with the SantiGo runner on the topics of transparency and honesty.

I have transferred my responsibilities onto Keyten, the main PCB designer of this project. I've instructed him and he knows how to handle the situation. So hopefully, me leaving won't cause any delay to this project.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 06 May 2021, 13:33:07: Quote from: ILWrites on Fri, 30 April 2021, 13:41:42
Hello.

I've been working on Monoflex keyboard as one of the PCB designers and the PCB production manager.

Unfortunately, I have to quit my position due to the disagreement with the SantiGo runner on the topics of transparency and honesty.

I have transferred my responsibilities onto Keyten, the main PCB designer of this project. I've instructed him and he knows how to handle the situation. So hopefully, me leaving won't cause any delay to this project.

Can you provide some insight on this? Do you think Santigo is not being transparent about something?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: Bl4ck on Thu, 06 May 2021, 14:12:58: Quote from: tex_live_utility on Thu, 06 May 2021, 13:33:07
Quote from: ILWrites on Fri, 30 April 2021, 13:41:42
Hello.

I've been working on Monoflex keyboard as one of the PCB designers and the PCB production manager.

Unfortunately, I have to quit my position due to the disagreement with the SantiGo runner on the topics of transparency and honesty.

I have transferred my responsibilities onto Keyten, the main PCB designer of this project. I've instructed him and he knows how to handle the situation. So hopefully, me leaving won't cause any delay to this project.

Can you provide some insight on this? Do you think Santigo is not being transparent about something?

He is referring to the Lyra GB. Just join Lyra GB Discord and you will get more info.
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: ILWrites on Fri, 07 May 2021, 04:49:26: Quote from: tex_live_utility on Thu, 06 May 2021, 13:33:07
Can you provide some insight on this? Do you think Santigo is not being transparent about something?

Yes. He is. Just as Bl4ck said, I've left Monoflex because of many-many issues with Lyra, fulfilment of which is SantiGo's responsibility.
You are welcome to join the Lyra GB Discord and see it for yourself: https://discord.gg/9jRupfs
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: LASERman Projects on Fri, 07 May 2021, 07:41:40: I wish it would have split spacebar option (standard layout).
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Fri, 07 May 2021, 07:45:06: are you guys italian or Ukrainian?
Title: Re: [IC] Keyboard Monoflex 60% by SantiGo Custom UPDATE 12.01.2021
Post by: DotMatrix on Tue, 18 May 2021, 17:10:18: Just a warning to you all on SantiGo Customs and all the issues the Lyra GB has had with him: https://redd.it/nfnbau

Basically SantiGo has full control of the Lyra GB but publicly denies that and has been promising shipping "next week" for 5 months but refuses to show any pictures of all the finished boards, packed, with shipping labels like he's claimed.

He's also threatened to bulk ship all the boards he was paid to do packaging/fulfillment for to the original GB designer to "teach him a lesson" by forcing him to pay customs or risk having the shipment detained.